This was originally what the video was going to be about, but then I realized that it wasn't worth the time arguing about. Had plenty of examples too, of how people in most fights don't really seem to change how they behave based off of the opponents ability. For example, blake's power should totally throw people off, but when people fight her for the first time (torchwick) they seem to be unfazed by her shadow doppler gangers. Which is strange that he doesn't even bat an eyelash, because those things theoretically are used for both evasion and distraction. And then torchwick proceeds to fight another character with a peculiar battle style and manages to not be thrown off AND holds his own in the exact same way. Fights can tell there own story and have their own ups and downs. Many of the fights in the show(I do have a couple counter examples) don't really have them as much as you would hope.
Sorry, I literally forgot to make a part of the video where I explained how Ruby's strength is not consistent. In the second or third season, she tries punching a random mook without her scythe and it does pretty much nothing. Weapons hit harder than fists generally, but she is consistently strong enough to send herself and others flying all the time. it stands to reason this punch should have hurt if she is half as strong as shown to be, even if she is worse without a weapon.
She sends a guy through a window in her first appearance without drawing Crescent Rose. That’s not even getting into her little “arc” in Volume 5 where they claim she relies to heavily on it. Said “arc” ends with Mercury of all people (someone who hasn’t thrown a punch before or after that moment) throwing a punch and ends up jobbing like a total schmuck.
The thing with her spinning from her gun is that she's pivoting on her feet. When the gun is fired it creates force directly backwards, and in much of her combat she's positioned so that the force will travel through her center of gravity and thus push her whole body. In that scene though it's positioned to the side of her center of gravity, meaning the force would only act upon a section of her body and not the rest. Like, imagine a sign attached to a metal post in the ground. If you applied a large force to the direct face of the sign, it would get pushed back. But if you apply force to the side edge of the sign, it will spin instead (assuming that it isn't bolted to the ground). That's basically what Ruby is doing in that scene: she's firing the gun to the side of her center of mass and spinning on her feet to create a rotational force, instead of letting the force act directly on her center of mass and push her back.
I'm aware of the idea, seeing as I explained it. Understanding the idea that would make something work does not mean that the idea was executed well or shown properly
I do take recommends, I'm just really careful with them because sometimes people recommend me utter nonsense, or simply things that aren't in my preference. I'll totally give it a try if you want. But my reading speed varies; usually the more consistent the work of fiction is, the less time it will take me. Same goes for the other details of the work - I don't only care about Magic systems and fights, and if the other parts suffer then that will slow me down. Additionally there's the risk of not liking the thing in question and having to explain myself
A thing with semblances in early RWBY is that they were supposed to be modifiable with dust. I think this is mentioned in an off-handed comment in season 2, but it's never directly explained or elaborated on. That's why a lot of characters have abilities that seem to stretch outside of their usual powerset, or at least that's the handwave that the story presents. For example, Blake using dust to turn her shadow clones into fire clones that explode, or ice clones that freeze an enemy's weapon in place. It's never explained and we never even see any signs of dust on her outside of the activations themselves. It's intentionally very vague, like a soft magic system. Not defending how it is written into the story in the early seasons, because it's not explained well. The thing about early RWBY is that the lore is all made in *service* of sick fights. Everyone has their own super cool power that can then be modified with any element they want. Characters all have sick futuristic transforming weapons. And all the characters have magic aura barriers that let them tank hits like they're in Dragon Ball. Characters are constantly busting out new techniques to keep every fight unpredictable. All of these decisions make sense within the context of enabling cool action set pieces, and I think it's kind of narrow-minded to say that that's somehow a bad writing decision or that it makes it "low art" or whatever. It is an amateurish, but overall good story about superpowered high school. The real problem for me comes in after the main creator passed away, leaving no fight choreographer: only writers. After season 3, most powers stop being cool generalized abilities like "speed" or "shadow clones" and start being weird narrative utilities, like detecting lies, having heightened reflexes, or having "strong mental fortitude". Combining semblances with dust stops entirely, and aura gets retconned multiple times to allow for characters to be in life threatening circumstances without battles. Fighting and set-pieces stop being a thing entirely, even though the characters all exist in a world and story seemingly built for them fighting and having cool set pieces. IMO writing doesn't have any particular rules, so long as you succeed at the goal you set out for (or at least the goals of some reader checking out your story). RWBY's greatest sin isn't having some logical inconsistencies or surprise techniques that are too powerful: it's losing sight of the strengths that it *did* have partway through and creating an over-written mess.
Gonna be honest, I couldn't watch RWBY since Ren's dad pointed his bow entirely not at the enemy in front of him. Shame the original creator/director got cancer. I would've liked to see how he built his world.
I'd say it's visual popcorn, it has fights that are all show but rarely connects to the story no matter how hard it tries
This was originally what the video was going to be about, but then I realized that it wasn't worth the time arguing about. Had plenty of examples too, of how people in most fights don't really seem to change how they behave based off of the opponents ability. For example, blake's power should totally throw people off, but when people fight her for the first time (torchwick) they seem to be unfazed by her shadow doppler gangers.
Which is strange that he doesn't even bat an eyelash, because those things theoretically are used for both evasion and distraction. And then torchwick proceeds to fight another character with a peculiar battle style and manages to not be thrown off AND holds his own in the exact same way.
Fights can tell there own story and have their own ups and downs. Many of the fights in the show(I do have a couple counter examples) don't really have them as much as you would hope.
Sorry, I literally forgot to make a part of the video where I explained how Ruby's strength is not consistent. In the second or third season, she tries punching a random mook without her scythe and it does pretty much nothing. Weapons hit harder than fists generally, but she is consistently strong enough to send herself and others flying all the time. it stands to reason this punch should have hurt if she is half as strong as shown to be, even if she is worse without a weapon.
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She sends a guy through a window in her first appearance without drawing Crescent Rose. That’s not even getting into her little “arc” in Volume 5 where they claim she relies to heavily on it. Said “arc” ends with Mercury of all people (someone who hasn’t thrown a punch before or after that moment) throwing a punch and ends up jobbing like a total schmuck.
The thing with her spinning from her gun is that she's pivoting on her feet. When the gun is fired it creates force directly backwards, and in much of her combat she's positioned so that the force will travel through her center of gravity and thus push her whole body. In that scene though it's positioned to the side of her center of gravity, meaning the force would only act upon a section of her body and not the rest. Like, imagine a sign attached to a metal post in the ground. If you applied a large force to the direct face of the sign, it would get pushed back. But if you apply force to the side edge of the sign, it will spin instead (assuming that it isn't bolted to the ground). That's basically what Ruby is doing in that scene: she's firing the gun to the side of her center of mass and spinning on her feet to create a rotational force, instead of letting the force act directly on her center of mass and push her back.
I'm aware of the idea, seeing as I explained it. Understanding the idea that would make something work does not mean that the idea was executed well or shown properly
RWBY fights were cool until they weren't
Hey man talk about the magic system in Witch Hunter, Eleceed, My wife is a demon queen and webtoon canvas series I have recommendations for you
I'll put them on my list for consideration. I'm sort of dodgy with webtoons these days, for a smattering of reasons
dunno if you take reccomendations but i'd like to see your opinion on witch hat atelier
I do take recommends, I'm just really careful with them because sometimes people recommend me utter nonsense, or simply things that aren't in my preference.
I'll totally give it a try if you want. But my reading speed varies; usually the more consistent the work of fiction is, the less time it will take me. Same goes for the other details of the work - I don't only care about Magic systems and fights, and if the other parts suffer then that will slow me down.
Additionally there's the risk of not liking the thing in question and having to explain myself
I'm on chapter 4. I'll get back to you when I'm on 70 something
A thing with semblances in early RWBY is that they were supposed to be modifiable with dust. I think this is mentioned in an off-handed comment in season 2, but it's never directly explained or elaborated on. That's why a lot of characters have abilities that seem to stretch outside of their usual powerset, or at least that's the handwave that the story presents. For example, Blake using dust to turn her shadow clones into fire clones that explode, or ice clones that freeze an enemy's weapon in place. It's never explained and we never even see any signs of dust on her outside of the activations themselves. It's intentionally very vague, like a soft magic system. Not defending how it is written into the story in the early seasons, because it's not explained well.
The thing about early RWBY is that the lore is all made in *service* of sick fights. Everyone has their own super cool power that can then be modified with any element they want. Characters all have sick futuristic transforming weapons. And all the characters have magic aura barriers that let them tank hits like they're in Dragon Ball. Characters are constantly busting out new techniques to keep every fight unpredictable. All of these decisions make sense within the context of enabling cool action set pieces, and I think it's kind of narrow-minded to say that that's somehow a bad writing decision or that it makes it "low art" or whatever. It is an amateurish, but overall good story about superpowered high school. The real problem for me comes in after the main creator passed away, leaving no fight choreographer: only writers. After season 3, most powers stop being cool generalized abilities like "speed" or "shadow clones" and start being weird narrative utilities, like detecting lies, having heightened reflexes, or having "strong mental fortitude". Combining semblances with dust stops entirely, and aura gets retconned multiple times to allow for characters to be in life threatening circumstances without battles. Fighting and set-pieces stop being a thing entirely, even though the characters all exist in a world and story seemingly built for them fighting and having cool set pieces.
IMO writing doesn't have any particular rules, so long as you succeed at the goal you set out for (or at least the goals of some reader checking out your story). RWBY's greatest sin isn't having some logical inconsistencies or surprise techniques that are too powerful: it's losing sight of the strengths that it *did* have partway through and creating an over-written mess.
the first 2 seasons were lit as hell but everything after is a train wreck
Gonna be honest, I couldn't watch RWBY since Ren's dad pointed his bow entirely not at the enemy in front of him.
Shame the original creator/director got cancer. I would've liked to see how he built his world.
well, just aim the gun sideways, then you rotate..? if you aim forward you are push backwards, but it is tottaly reasonable to aim somewere else!!!
If only she had done that
She held it to the side
RWBY is a no-story type of series. Just for cool and funsies. Which is the reason why I never want to watch it.
Yeah but as soon as they went for story later on, everything crashed and burned