Mecha Through the Years - The Early 70's
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- Опубліковано 22 сер 2024
- Once again we take a look at Mecha media through the years. This time its from 1970-1974 and includes shows such as Mazinger Z, Neo Human Casshan and Getter Robo.
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Getter Robo was created by Ken Ishikawa. Go Nagai's a co-creator, but Getter Robo's actually Ishikawa's baby. Nagai would inherit the rights to Getter Robo after Ishikawa died.
That;s actually a bit of a misconception. They both workshoped the ideas for Getter Robo together and Nagai went off to make the anime, while Ishikawa made the manga.
That's actually a bit of a misconception. They both worked on the original story treatment and while Ishikawa went to work on the manga Nagai did some initial story boards and then went off to work on other projects while Ishikawa continued to act as a producer in a limited capacity.
@@shadow025027Ishikawa is still the one who should be credited with making Getter Robo into classic it is now. The man had very profound vision of the franchise and it's a shame he wasn't able to give it a definitive ending.
Go Nagai only had the basic idea for Getter Robo, the true architect behind the group of sociopaths piloting the combining mech is Ken Ishikawa, who kept creating more Getter manga across the years. Getter Robo is a whole different monster than Go Nagai's creations.
Getter robo fans be like
Getter robo was a co created project with the late great Ken Ishikawa, Go Nagai's besty.
For added detail it can best summed up that the anime is more Nagai's baby, while the manga is more Ishikawa's
@@TeamTowers1Wrong... It's all Ken. Yeah Go helped out but it's all Ken's Genius
@@DSMadara Saying Nagai helped is probably a bit of an understatement. He actually designed Getter 1 and was the one who came up with the idea for a combining mecha after he got in a car accident. Most the inertial concepts actually did come from Nagai. For the 70's version. Ken can be said to be more responsible for what Getter Robo ultimately became in the 90's.
You still shouldn't count out Ishikawa in the creation of Getter, he drew the manga from the get go and in places it's way more insane than Mazinger.
Go Nagai helped came up with the idea of three robots(I don’t remember who came up with the combining idea) and drew the designs for one of the getters. But the story, the main characters and the villians where all Ishikawa’s creation
I’m happy to see you finally talking about the mazinger franchise
Babe wake up, retcon uploaded.
Casshern and most of it's adaptions are awesome, Sins in particular is very unique and beautiful. I'm thankful to Tatsunoko Vs. Capcom for introducing me to a lot of gems.
Invincible SuperMan Zambot 3 needs it's own Retrospective.
It was one of the first deconstructions on the Mecha Genre.
And the ending... My god.
I still find it funny that there is a cannon universe out there where devilman, lady devilman, the cyborgs, mazinger and getter of all things exist simultanously.
And i fund it interesting how gritty, desperate and downright violent mazinger and getter can get. Especially the getter manga.
Don't forget Grendizer
@@nexo42069 right. Sorry. Yeah, that one is there as well
Mazinger z was basically a war drama about a bunch of child soldiers fighting a mad nazi scientist and his army of Frankenstein esque monsters and giant robots. I went back to watch it because its a historical mecha anime and i was surprised because i ended up enjoying it a lot. Fun fact its the first mecha show to have a female mech pilot and the sequal had the first black/female mech pilot.
I can admit Im so old I watched Tranzor Z back in '85/'86 as a kindergartener
If I recall, the Super Sentai series Jetman was a homage to Gatchaman.
My first mecha anime is Voltes V but my love for mecha in general came to the whole Gundam franchise from UC, Alternate Timeline and SD heroes.
Mine was Battle of the Planets in the 70's, then Shogun Warriors and Tranzor Z. Never had Astroboy or Gigantor in my area but I started out with Speed Racer, Gamera, Godzilla and Ultraman before BotP.
Mazinger Z has a dad bod and I am here for it
Funny how in the 1970's Hawaii tried to start the weeb wave but it never caught on. We even got a bunch good Tokusatsu like Jinzo Ningen Kikaida, Kamen Rider V3 and Inazuman.
Excited for this series, especially when the 80's start to get covered.
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Mazinger is my favorite. The shows are great, the inteo songs for each entry were made with so much love and they are so freaking catchy!
Hoping to hear about Brave Raideen, Combattler V, and some more great Mecha stuff from ya! Fun vid that was a great window into a fantastic time for Mecha fans. Definitely sooooo much to talk about in that era and just beyond. Looking forward to the next vid!
You implied you already will, but you absolutely need to talk about the Getter Robo OVAs by studio Brain's Base. More people need to know about them and watch them. Especially Armageddon.
Hopefully you can mention the connection between Giant Robo and Babel II via Mitseru Yokoyama. Also, Ken Ishikawa created Getter Robo working with Go Nagai.
I remember watching G force as a kid, I don’t remember much but I did watch it.
I grew up on battle of the planets...watching it as a toddler on my mommy's lap. Though what made me really go over was Star Blazers/Space Battleship Yamato. I "returned" to these 70s robot shows and as an adult...I really saw how good a lot of these really were
As an Obligate Getter Robo Fan, I was just waiting for you to talk about Getter Robo. HELL YEAH GETTER ROBO.
EDIT: You...didn't mention Ken Ishikawa. Dude, what the fuck. He was the ACTUAL creative force behind most of Getter Robo's history. You didn't even touch on the vastly superior and VASTLY MORE INSANE manga...I'm pissed, actually. YOU SHOULD MAKE A FULL GETTER ROBO VIDEO TO MAKE UP FOR IT.
"that or a the Mazinger Z statue behind me" - Well... 3d printing is here :D
Really appreciate your mention of Casshan and how it was an inspiration for Vanquish video game.
I get that Toe wants to protect their copyrights but any rational person should see that UA-cam is basically free advertising.
Can really see the cross-influence of tokusatsu here in the early 70's mecha as well as the gradual transition to works aimed at more mature audiences as the years go by. As much as I'm broadly more of a fan of Real Robot, I do really love the bombastic pulp premises and wild villain designs of these Super works. Evil Machine Empires are the best empires, clearly.
Getter army represent!!
I'll never forget my first mecha anime being Gundam Wing on Cartoon Network
Go Nagai did another Mazinger-Devilman crossover in recent times, "Great Mazinger vs Hades", and this Devilman is the one from the manga.
So much history, thanks for putting it all into a video!
Kudos from a Classic Dynamic Pro fan (Getter, Grendizer years)
Can't wait to see the next video !!!
I can't express how much I love the works of Go Nagai after discovering them through the SRW game series
Love your vids! will you do a follow up vid to these by adding merchandizing as a context? how toys moved from recycled metal to plastic and resin models like gunpla?
Great work. Hope you're doing well. I was really surprised at how well Gatchaman holds up. I watched the 90's ova recently and that was awesome.
The Devilman fron the '70s anime has the ability to grow in size at will. I should also mention that the anime and manga have very little in common. In the anime Akira Fudo dies in the first episode.
I was lucky my dad was stationed in Hawaii when i was four so these shows are my childhood. Even when we moved back to the States i saw everything on cable and spent my chore money buying robos from Kaybe's and Foley's. When my friends at school would show off the newest Transformer i would break out my 20" shogun warrior and Getter, lol.
Devilman transforms into a GIANT DEVIL in the 70s Anime, he does have the ability to fight as a human sized Devilman or transform into a Giant if he is fighting against a Giant Demon.
Also if the movie had the Female Demon who always had bad luck when she was trying to kill off Akira Fudo/Devilman, then I would know where this sits in the storyline before she dies 3/4 through the series.
(She disguises herself as a human woman in Akira's class, only to slowly fall in love with him before she gets killed by the King of Demons Zenon, makes me wonder if she took over the body of a human woman only for her human heart to change her)
Or if Miki somehow knew that Akira = Devilman who would often save her in most episodes, then it would have taken place towards the end of the series
Oh man, Hellhound Liner!
I was watching that, and rapidly realized it was just a ripoff of Cyborg 009 with cute animals. And I am TOTALLY OKAY with that.
Who here was introduced to Gatchaman through the GForce comic book run where the covers were done by Alex Ross then learned everything else
The Getter Robo anime is a whole lot different compared to its manga. They made the tone pretty family-friendly.
I remember the live action Casshern used the Bleach ost 😅
Just a little trivia
70s and 80s mecha scared the shit out of me
I got introduced to Mazinger Z as Tranzor-Z, back in the day. Can't wait to see what the 2nd half of the 70s held for Mecha anime, other than Gundam.
Casshern!!! Apparently he’s popular in various parts of the world I wouldn’t expect. 11:42, mmm Insectoids you say, like the 90’s LEGO theme?!
When it's time to talk about Gurren Lagann remember you only get one chance to talk about it for the first time so please give it the love it deserves. No calling it "stuffactive" like other youtubers did or apologizing for it being balls to the wall and brilliant. swap glasses to you know what and make it unforgettable.
Huh. Never knew Astro Ganga was the first color super robot show. Learn something new every day, right? :)
Anyone else find it odd that Go Nagai's work was so popular with children, but he made a lot of decidedly not kid-friendly things. I read his Devilman Lady manga and, wow. It's right up there with Berserk when it comes to graphic violence and disturbing sexual content.
Yeah Gotachman would be the influence for Chojin Sentai Jetman. If you don't believe me watch Jetman for yourself. Now Casshern I have actually heard of through watching episodes of Casshern Sins though I only watched a few episodes and never finished it.
I really hope you have the 80s coming soon ❤😅
Was AstroGanga aired in the U.S.? We in Italy had a craze for japan robots after the huge success of Grendizer, so local tvs bought and aired almost everything related to robots, including many Tatsunoko series like Ganga, Casshern, Tekkaman. We even had Babel 2 (Babil Junior). Never heard of Maken Liner or Zero tester, though. Looks like the premise is very similar to Jerry Anderson's U.F.O.
You gotta love all the Nagai crossover movies. There's a strong possibility that Casshern's arch-enemy Briking was in fact based on Mussolini, instead than Hitler. By the way, you haven't mentioned another great sci-fi Tatsunoko series, Uchuu No-Kishi Tekkaman.
And yes, Tatsunoko was really on the "upskirt" side in Gatchaman, but as for that, you can't beat the Time Bokan series.
Many Tatsunoko series were either excessively gloomy and sad (Casshern, Tekkaman), or just hilarious (Time Bokan)
A great review you have done, mate, keep going.
Most of this shows represent my childhood.
70s Devilman was basically Ultraman but horror. Devilman had a vast power-set as the plot demanded it and could grow Giant because he fought kaiju sized demons from time to time. Instead of fighting Lucifer at the end he fight a demon called Godman or something. Look up Man with a Mission's song when my Devil Rises, it the 70s Devilman vs Godman with redesigns, because Go Nagai did the art for that album
Getter, mazinger, and cassern are classics!
Excellent video. Thanks
@Retcon_404 Cool vid but you forgot to mention Ken Ishikawa's creative role in Getter Robo.
Yeah im dissapointed I didnt know Ishikawa's involvement as I rushed to finish up the script. Im going to have to read the Getter Robo manga as penance haha. Wish we had a full official translation for it.
@@Retcon404 It's ok man, wanted to point it out since you didn't mention him.
The Manga has a full Fan Translation, I recomend reading it on Mangadex since the interface is very user friendly and customizable.
@@Retcon404 If you want to find out more about Getter Robo there's 2 videos you can check out: "Believe In Getter - A Complete Retrospective on Getter Robo" and The Legacy of Ken Ishikawa" and "What Inspired Gurren Lagann".
the 1970s anime devilman can change size yeah (i've only seen one episode from it but it does come up there so)
I hope one day you do a retrospective of a Super Robot Wars
Grendizer is pretty big in France so I believe. More so than it was in Japan
Zero Tester is essentially the urtext of Sunrise sci-fi anime. I hope we get it fully translated before long.
We know all about the co-creation credit with Ishikawa but anime Even the ones he had direct involvement went are their own original beast even the so-called Arc "adaptation" as the manga was never finished because the magazine closed down when he was still alive, all the Getter manga Even the two part of Getter Robo and G had Open ended conclusions prior to Arc leaving the reader with more questions and the desire to go on another adventure but feel more satisfied.
Whenever I hear "Mazinger", I think of a successor to kfc's zinger burger 😂
Well, I was going to provide a correction regarding Getter Robo, but the Getter fans got around to that faster than I did. However, I still need to rectify you not mentioning that Casshern was one of the shows (among the different anime and tokusatsu) that inspired Megaman. Parts of the base story and certain characters were taken. In particular, Tetsuya opting to be turned into Casshern became Rock opting to be modified to become Megaman, Rush is Friender and Roll is Luna. Casshern's what Quick Man was based off of design-wise. The rest of the base story and characters actually made their way into Megaman X and even X2. For example, that first robot that went berserk, BL-1, a.k.a. Buraiking Boss, is Sigma and what happened when he got infected by the Zero virus. Dr. Light appearing as a hologram in the capsules is the same as Midori Azuma, Tetsyua' mother, appearing before Casshern to provide him with support. Lastly, Buraiking Boss's three main subordinates Barashin, Arkborn and Sagrey are Megaman X2's X Hunters Violen, Agile and Serges.
Go Nagai is the og, he made the reboots canon
I don't know why so many call Gundam a real robot series. It's not.
Real robots aren't piloted by super psychics and somehow have a transforming space fighter in them. Gundam may not be as wild as Mazinger or Getter Robo, but it's still a super mech in a real robot setting which kills it for me.
The Zaku 2 and the GM are more real robot and are more believable in the role.
I don't know if you planned on doing Grendizer for your second video on this or not. But that show is notable for its incredible popularity overseas, especially in France and the Middle East. There's a game and a reboot being worked on right now. Go Nagai himself hasn't pushed the series much, though I think he did a manga on it years ago, supposedly he had disputes with the producer over the show, but it is one of my favorites
Getter robo is created by Ken Ishikawa with the help of Go Nagai
Love the suits in wing no doubt, that being said screw Wing's story thats all
3:58 ". . . they are obsessed with showing you up-skirts of her."
I fail to see the problem here.
Hopefully you can read Ken Ishikawa's Getter Robo Saga and see why people actually care about Getter. It's much more than the toy commercial Nagai and Toei worked on (even if I like the Getter Robo G anime they created). Since you like Gunbuster, Lagann and Gainax in general please read the Getter Robo manga.
Please do an 80’s video
surprised you mentioned astro ganger without mentioning the orga kachitoritai gif
Isn't Casshern responsible for the 'Three idiot henchmen trope' that Team Rocket is from?
no, that was Time Bokan. But both Shows where made by Tatsunoko
the 70 only saw by choices was gundam the other series was spanish dub in open tv, getter is great but i feel is mor a ken thing after all.
this is Ken Ishikawa erasure
Retcon, don't have Zeta Gundam review
I do! It's actually one of the highest viewed vids on the channel... But bandai blocked it in multiple countries so it may not appear in the playlist :/
id love to interview you somettime for my main channel!
Devilman in the 70s show can get bigger because of Ultraman
Bruh, where's the credit to Ishikawa ;_;
Voltes V ❤