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No Room For Error, Building Between a Rock and a Hard Place | Skidmarks MTB Trail Building Ep #3
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- Опубліковано 13 лис 2023
- This section of our mountain bike trail build was our first big challenge. Throughout this build we had been getting hammered with rainstorms making a difficult job, harder. We are picking up where we left off in the last build, which is attempting to route trail over a boulder, and then through tight Tree/Rock pinch through all the while going across a steep slope.
This trail is part of at a new MTB trail network in Vermont called the Driving Range that will be free, and open to the public. This will be a network of advance trails from "dark blue" to Double black, but all of these trails will be built so that Adaptive riders can also enjoy them. At the time of posting this, these trails are NOT open but hopefully will later this summer. This is the second video of a series of videos I will be doing about this trail.
Episode 1 • Building & Testing A T...
Episode 2 h • They Don't Teach This ...
Episode 2.5 • Clearing Trees After a...
Episode 3 - you are here.
Episode 4 • No Turning Back, Build...
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Where - Bolton Vermont
Name of trail System "Driving Range" Part of Richmond Mountain Trails
www.richmondmo...
/ richmondmountaintrails
And we are back! For those who have been asking where have i been? These videos can take over a week or two to piece together (There was over 10hrs worth of footage alone to sort through 🤮). In Vermont our building season is limited and nice weather is valuable time; so instead of wasting that time editing, I figured I'd use it to build. Now that it's cold and wet/snowy i can finally take a second to edit these videos.
Yes. I have been hanging out for the track building videos. Now I know why. You have been making 1 big video ❤
🎉 Phil uploaded🎉
i love taht we see the proses not only sped upp
☺☺☺☺keep upp the good work
Phil, these trail building videos are masterpieces. I really enjoying seeing you guys developing these lines and using all of your equipment. Can't wait for the next one. This was a great way to spend a lunch hour.
Thanks for the kind words. I try to keep a lot of the problem solving process in the videos. I also don't want to pretend like I always know what I'm doing. I think part of what this stuff fun is learning how to overcome problems you run into. Every phase of this build I learned a half a dozen new things. If I were to go back to the beginning of the trail, I'd probably do some things much differently.
That Bailey Zimmerman reference in the title hooked me right into this video
I now have massively increased respect for trail builders everywhere, thanks to your videos. You do such a good job of illustrating the large amount of thought and effort that goes into every minute of trail. Especially huge ups for putting the extra effort into making sure these are also safe for adaptive riders!
I find trail building fascinating, and walking through a section after a trail is finished is super deceiving. The amount of work that goes into the simplest things is insane. There's a few sections in the next few videos that everybody who walked the flagged line thought was literally impossible. For me I like the puzzle, really enjoy is figuring out how to make things work and flow well.
@@PhilsWorld it must be really satisfying to finally ride a section that was hard to even visualize from the start. Has me wanting to look up local trail maintenance folks and go get my hands dirty!
There isn't anything easy about any of this. Nothing but got old fashioned hard work! Looking good Phil
love these building videos man, especially seeing how the dynamics of the landscape end up influencing your trails. good stuff!
Working with the landscape is the most fun and creative part about trail building. I actually dread working out in an open field with no constraints. I try to work with and around as many natural elements as possible and taking out trees is usually a last resort and the result really has to be worth it.
Great Phil has a trail building video, its 1 1/2 hour long. Gets a nice warm cuppa and put my feet up.
Me and my friends watch your videos all the time. we are too old to ride anymore and it is so much appreciated that you do these rides. It's almost like being there ourselves thank you so much for your videos we share them with our friends please keep making more and thank you again
Thanks Phil and Hayley for taking us along for the ride and spending time on the trail build. cheers and more power to you . :)
This is amazing definitely deserves more views!!!
I just came across this video which I think is amazing and so I became a subscriber..
I also live in Vermont and plan to make some trails much like this on my ridgeline property in Bradford which has some real challenges. You have greatly inspired me to get going on something this Spring.
Awesome content man. Love it from both the trail buklding as well as the equipment operating. Just a tip keep a few logs by ya when working in the wet spots to keep yoirself from sinking. Keep up the awesome content
Belive me Phil, the things you show us is now in use here in Denmark. Great way of showning how you make decisions on the way. The stones you have with all the flat surface is a gift for the track. Very nice.
I watched the whole thing. I’m at work so it was a win/win.
You aren't the only one apparently!
Yeesh! At about the 16-ish minute mark, that gave me the Willies. Running that excavator looks scarier than even the hard line you made.
That was one of the riskier moves i had to make over the course of this build. The camera angle really did not due it justice either. All that being said, I enjoy the challenge.
I love the longform build videos Phil! Thanks for taking the time to piece these together for us. Wish I could eventually ride this trail haha but I'm in the PNW. Any chance you want to come to WA to build???
Hehe, thanks and I'm flattered. I never say never but I think you folks have all the talent you need out there in the PNW! Besides I really love where i live and my focus is on the local community here :)
@@PhilsWorld I love that! Makes me want to branch out an do more dig days so I can learn the ins and outs of trail building. Keep up the strong work, Phil 👍
Looking good! I have 60 acres in Indiana and hope to progress as you have with my project. Thanks for the content.
Phil!!!! I miss the videos on the main channel man! Glad to see you're back!
I didn't have much time to get this trail finished. So once I got back from BC I barely touched my bike to focus on this project.
Dexpan is amazing!
It was my first time using it. I'll definitely need to play around with it a bit more!
Mind blown!
Really great video I really liked this longer format to go into details of your trail build - great job!
Thank you and happy to hear that. I really enjoy longer form content for that reason. Lots of interesting stuff gets cut for the sake of brevity on UA-cam these days.
If anyone is a wondering how many volunteer hours are required to build the public trails you enjoy, this may help answer that question. Countless hours.
You chipped those rocks like how they widened Rt 2!
Haha! I have to say, it was fun to watch their progress throughout the summer on my way to building. I didn't appreciate getting stopped by different flaggers, but at least the scenery was nice!
Excellent work guys...looks damn cool.
Thank you 🙏
Nice can watch it while working :) sweet long vid
Multitasking, i like it!
Maby in the next video you could make a kind of map so we can see the whole layout of the trail. Great stuff 👍
I haven't found a good way to do that and none of the base maps gets the nuances of the terrain right. I'd love to do a lidar map via drone, but thats a bit out of my wheelhouse.
I did walk the route with my camera before building which you can find here ua-cam.com/video/4EA1Zr-4npU/v-deo.htmlsi=T4s50mdfkqwZqYAV
We stayed 95% true to that except for the ending where we made a significant diversion due to a big sloppy section that we just wanted to avoid. It was the right call as the end result was better.
Lil wooden bonner log over stream
Wow, I didn't even know you could post such long videos. Processing must be insane.
Luckily it's not terrible if you don't sit and watch it process! 😂
Hopefully we'll run into you out at the driving range next :)
“Oh that kinda looks like Vermont”. 😅 44:15
I almost cut that out but I'm glad i left it in :P
I'm guessing your Go-Pro, being an action camera, was searching for some "action" because you were not providing with enough! LOL.
I guess building on the side of a hill wasn't extreme enough for my GoPro! In reality, think I may have had the camera on horizon leveling mode which crops in on the sensor, and for some reason it glitched out. Only time it's even done that to me.
maybe this was covered in one of the videos and I missed it, but how do you go about re-fueling the cat? How many hours of operation do you get from a single tank? Thanks!
Solid question. I did sort of answer that in first video here ua-cam.com/video/Fg589Yae68Y/v-deo.html.
We had service roads and a climbing trail built at this network so it was pretty easy. Other builders sometimes have to walk jerry cans up the hill if there's no roads. I've also seen people put a transfer tanks on ATV trailers, this is very useful with bigger fuel hungry machines. Luckily this machine is pretty efficient with auto idling feature, and I don't run the throttle super high. I tend to work with lower throttle as it's more gentle. This little thing is pretty powerful and when working on uneven terrain it can be really easy to catch a hidden root and pull/tip the machine over. The being said, I'm rarely in the Excavator the whole day. A 5 gallon can will usually last me 2 heavy days of use or 4 days of light use. FWIW I think over the course this whole trail build I went through ~100 Gallons.
@@PhilsWorld Thanks for the detailed response, very interesting!
heh ebic
Which model compactor, and how long have you had it? I've been using a Yardmax 2500lb for about a year and it recently died on me. Cannot figure out why. Considering a slightly smaller one as a replacement (they have an 1850lb model) but I'm worried it will die on me in a year. Worked great for trails while I had it running though.
Some tips from my experience - the wheels are useless most of the time and get in the way, so I'd just unbolt them. The throttle lever also sucks and kept coming un-tensioned, so a friend replaced it with an old MTB gear shifter which worked way better.
I also used a similar yardmax trackbarrow and it has been going strong since I purchased it, though it def gets less use on my trails than the compactor.
I'd have to take a look at the model number. I suspect it's the 1850, It was the smallest one i saw when i ordered it. I was not expecting quality since the good ones usually sell for +1500. I knew the wheels weren't going to be useful but the mechanism that holds them up (which always failed) was my biggest source of frustration. I ended up using a bungee cord and it solved most frustrations.
We are done with this build and you'll see throughout the next videos/project we get better and more efficient at using this equipment. The trackbarrow sat for most of the project but when we needed it, it was a life saver. I found I liked using it to pack dirt that was too wet to compact.
I am not super well versed with small engines but i know enough to trouble shoot my way through these. If the engines dies it's probably an easy fix, there's really only so many things to go wrong. Carburetor, spark plug, or something to do with the fuel. I could see the on/off switch being a source of problems but so far this little thing has been great.
@@PhilsWorld Thanks for taking the time to give suggestions for the compactor. Cleaned the carb and replaced the spark plug, but neither helped. I didn't think about trying the on/off switch - it is a good idea to check it just to be sure. I think I also read that the oil sensor can go bad and can be bypassed, so I'll try that too.
Also was in a similar camp on cost & expectation - didn't expect the world and I hated the idea of buying something too expensive when I'm almost always leaving it in the woods covered by a tarp. Even with only a year of use it was way cheaper than renting when I needed it and it did work well.
Can't wait for the rest of the build. The trail looks awesome so far.
@@joncalhoun Let me know if and how you fixed it. The sensor wasn't something I was thinking about but that's a good call. I think the Buggy has one too. It'll sometimes cut out on a steep hill, likely for that reason.
Hey Phil awesome work, huge fan here.
How many Go Pro batteries do you have?
i have 10-12 batteries on hand but I will typically only use about 5-6 on a typical build day. Time lapses take less power than recording regular video so if i know something is going to be repetitive I'll try to switch modes.
@@PhilsWorld wow that's great... Now comes the second question, how do you fund time to edit all of these? I am doing 3 hours of building just with time lapse and can't manage how much content it generates... Using the quik suggested edit mostly.
There's a reason why this video took so long yo come out. Was done with the portion of the project in September, but i knew of it stopped to edit the video i (as well as the next videos) I wouldn't have gotten the trail done before winter. Now that snow is trickling in and the building is done, i have a bit more time. This video took a little over week to edit. Mainly because i can only sit and stare at the screen for so long before im bored out of my mind. :P
I think when one is creating a rock drain (french drain), one should lay 2 courses of large rock, followed by 3 courses of smaller rock, then top with even smaller rock/gravel. Constructing the drain this way would allow the water to seep through to larger openings below the top layer of rock/stone & direct the water efficiently.
If there is LOTS of water to drain, one should trench enough to lay in a 300mm diameter pipe, this pipe needs to be covered with minimum 300mm granular fill in order for the pipe to be structurally sound - any less over the pipe will allow the pipe to deform. Also when laying drainage pipe it should be skewed from the upper slope across the path to the down slope so the water does not have to make a 90 degree bend.
I look forward to watching your trail building videos 👍
My only question is: Why are you wasting time building trails and not an arc? Damn, it seems like its been raining in every other shot in this video!
Haha. This was the rainiest summers I've experienced. Luckily it tapered off come fall, but man did that make building slower than it should.