Thank you so much for sharing this with those of us who didnh't get to attend GATEway FATE! Kinda obvious but I deeply love the real world foundations that FSH is so firmly attached to, so hearing you talk about it for an hour is, uh, ideal.
I think this has convinced me more than anything to actually go for big fishing, the amount of detail that lies in all the parallels to real world fish/history/mythology is amazing. So far I've only fished to get crafting mats and as an alternative to mining for scrips, but honestly i think i wanna get them all just to read the fish guide descriptions and figure out the real world parallels (or alternatively go for the XIV equivalent of a real world fish).
That was a delight! I appreciate you redoing this as a livestream for those of us who weren't able to make it during the con. The aside about the guy trying to summon the Mongolian Deathworm like Dune had me losing my mind. 🤣 Also, putting a warning for the snake but not Hullbreaker Isle... That one wrecked my party multiple times lol. I'm only at HSW fishing, because I focused hard on MSQ once I decided I wanted to go to GATEway FATE, but this makes me even more excited to pick up my fishing journey once I get the last little bit through DT. Thank you!
Are there any fishing techniques IRL that aren't a skill in FFXIV fishing yet that could be implemented, either just by name or with a mechanic of some sort
There's a few that I know of -- are you asking for with 'just a fishing rod' or just in general (like, any apparatus)? If with just a rod, there's 'nymphing' with fly fishing, where you actually tie TWO flows to your line - one is a dry fly (it floats), the other is a much smaller 'nymph' that is tied to hook of the dry fly and usually sinks behind the dry fly by about 18 inches or so. Another is specifically around squidding, where you use a very specific type of hook (that looks terrifying, mind you) and has a bright light on it that attracts the squid. It's only really useful at night, and really only works on squids. Also fun fact - the idea of using a light-based 'lure' is something that is being considered to draw out collossal and giant squids for filming. Effectively the idea is to use a robotic jellyfish that lights up a certain pattern to simulate that it's in distress and draw out the squids. For non rod-based fishing, there's stuff like cast nets that can be used to get live bait. You also get into the 'passive' fishing stuff like Lobster Pots and Trawling, but that's not really something that would work in FFXIV as we currently know it. That's what I know off the top of my head! There is probably more (and probably a bunch that are very region specific) that I'm missing... and as I'm typing this I could see there being more done with Spearfishing, maybe?
it was embarrassing when I went to the Field Museum and we were going thru the precambrian era and I was all “oh hey I caught that in 14” at 90% of the creatures ☠️
Friend and I walked into an aquarium near us one day and I saw a Tasselled Wobbagong and he was like "Is that one of your Fourteen Fish?" (he also plays, but does not fish) I was like, no, it's real. The look on his face when the plaque showed TASSELLED WOBBAGONG...
First thought with those Deathworm ones are that that’s literally a Graboid tentacle from Tremors, like that’s almost 1:1 from those films, and “Shriekers” are the second life stage of a Graboid in the fantasy of Tremors Edit: the mouth is more of a Graboid shape, but my point stands
@@FruitySnacks fantastic film, sequels are hit or miss, but the first one is a great monster movie for its time Edit: but if you actually look up the monster designs I find it’s pretty clear that that might’ve been the basis of the fish
i was there for this! what a fun panel! :D
I'm so disappointed Magic Bucket isn't based on a real life fish...
Thank you so much for sharing this with those of us who didnh't get to attend GATEway FATE! Kinda obvious but I deeply love the real world foundations that FSH is so firmly attached to, so hearing you talk about it for an hour is, uh, ideal.
I think this has convinced me more than anything to actually go for big fishing, the amount of detail that lies in all the parallels to real world fish/history/mythology is amazing. So far I've only fished to get crafting mats and as an alternative to mining for scrips, but honestly i think i wanna get them all just to read the fish guide descriptions and figure out the real world parallels (or alternatively go for the XIV equivalent of a real world fish).
That was a delight! I appreciate you redoing this as a livestream for those of us who weren't able to make it during the con. The aside about the guy trying to summon the Mongolian Deathworm like Dune had me losing my mind. 🤣 Also, putting a warning for the snake but not Hullbreaker Isle... That one wrecked my party multiple times lol.
I'm only at HSW fishing, because I focused hard on MSQ once I decided I wanted to go to GATEway FATE, but this makes me even more excited to pick up my fishing journey once I get the last little bit through DT. Thank you!
Are there any fishing techniques IRL that aren't a skill in FFXIV fishing yet that could be implemented, either just by name or with a mechanic of some sort
There's a few that I know of -- are you asking for with 'just a fishing rod' or just in general (like, any apparatus)?
If with just a rod, there's 'nymphing' with fly fishing, where you actually tie TWO flows to your line - one is a dry fly (it floats), the other is a much smaller 'nymph' that is tied to hook of the dry fly and usually sinks behind the dry fly by about 18 inches or so.
Another is specifically around squidding, where you use a very specific type of hook (that looks terrifying, mind you) and has a bright light on it that attracts the squid. It's only really useful at night, and really only works on squids. Also fun fact - the idea of using a light-based 'lure' is something that is being considered to draw out collossal and giant squids for filming. Effectively the idea is to use a robotic jellyfish that lights up a certain pattern to simulate that it's in distress and draw out the squids.
For non rod-based fishing, there's stuff like cast nets that can be used to get live bait. You also get into the 'passive' fishing stuff like Lobster Pots and Trawling, but that's not really something that would work in FFXIV as we currently know it.
That's what I know off the top of my head! There is probably more (and probably a bunch that are very region specific) that I'm missing... and as I'm typing this I could see there being more done with Spearfishing, maybe?
@@FruitySnacks Pots and trawling seem like they would at least work well with any kind of "island sanctuary" type content at least.
it was embarrassing when I went to the Field Museum and we were going thru the precambrian era and I was all “oh hey I caught that in 14” at 90% of the creatures ☠️
Friend and I walked into an aquarium near us one day and I saw a Tasselled Wobbagong and he was like "Is that one of your Fourteen Fish?" (he also plays, but does not fish)
I was like, no, it's real.
The look on his face when the plaque showed TASSELLED WOBBAGONG...
First thought with those Deathworm ones are that that’s literally a Graboid tentacle from Tremors, like that’s almost 1:1 from those films, and “Shriekers” are the second life stage of a Graboid in the fantasy of Tremors
Edit: the mouth is more of a Graboid shape, but my point stands
@@thew00dsman79 someone was pointing that out in chat and I missed it during that segment.
Ive not seen tremors, so missed that reference!
@@FruitySnacks fantastic film, sequels are hit or miss, but the first one is a great monster movie for its time
Edit: but if you actually look up the monster designs I find it’s pretty clear that that might’ve been the basis of the fish