MASTER YOUR FLIP TRICKS: THE “OPPOSITE PRESSURE” EFFECT - FULLY EXPLAINED
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- Опубліковано 3 лис 2024
- Today I wanted to explain one of the most important concepts I've taught that has the power to change your flip tricks forever! The opposite pressure effect is often the unrealized key to our problems with flip tricks. Learn how i've discovered this technique and how to use it to master tre flips, hardflips, inward heels, varial heels, nollie heels and much more.
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get this man an honorary PhD in physics. Thank you for sharing how to do the tricks and how to think about them while doing it
I agree on the opposite pressure tip, but I disagree on the physical explication. Actually in treflip the front flick is quite minimal, you rarely need help with that (in particular if you scoop as this guy with a good part of the shoe off the board). In fact many persons do not even flick with the front foot, they scoop in such a way the board do a kickflip motion on top of the 360 rotation. The pressure with the front foot could still be of some help but for a different reason: for general balance, for keeping the board under your body and for a spring effect exert by the trucks and the board at the moment of scooping which minimize the underlipping motion you need to do with the backfoot (achieved with the part of your backfoot shoe that is hanging out of the board while scooping). The effect described in this video could be useful in other tricks where the board flips mainly because of the front foot flick, which therefore have to be solid or in double flips. I take advantage of it in heelflips because my heel flick is still pretty weak (for me double heel are impossible).
I see, personally I would rather learn with an emphasis on the front foot cause I feel like it would be less sketchy to do it this way down stuff. However if try to do it like that I completely mess up my balance and my scoop so I'm doomed to learn it only with the back foot
@@0skie it’s easier to tre with both feet for me and it leaves your front foot in the perfect position to help land the trick
dude, you have a really reasonable skate tip channel here. I have been following this for a couple of years now and it really helped me with getting to know what i might do wrong when I cant land tricks I have been doing constantly for years. So keep doing those videos please!
Doing the lords work making videos like this, this is something I think I always realized but hearing it articulated makes it more clear
This is actually groundbreaking when it comes to fliptricks tutorials : most people explain the tre flip with that fucking "scoop", but when learning tre flips I feel you have to rely on that pressure effect, else the full trick doesn't come in motion... You need to lean on your toes. Thanks for the really helpful tips, especially for the hardflip, I always sensed there was some pressure thing involved and figured some peeps 'overused' it (placing their back foot over the edge like say Giraud) but I couldn't actually name and explain it to myself, you just did :) THANK YOU, keep it up skater mate!
I can land tre flips great and I still think that the "scoop" explanation is not very good, and I still don't understand what it's supposed to mean to "scoop" the board. The way I do it is more like a steezy 360 flip and it relies on the pressure points thing almost more than any other tip.
@@graalcloud I suppose the so called "scoop" naturally involves pressure, I don't know... XD but thanks for backing this up
Pressure point plus the comfort of where I am before popping my tricks has elevated my level.
Oh and your tutorials👊🏼🙏
would really appreciate a video about upper body control (shoulders/arms/hips).
Agreed
YES!!!!! By 10,000!!!!!
Taking notes for that steezy tre
The pinch is major. It’s helped me a lot. Thanks! Something else I realized recently is flicking your ankle at the beginning of the trick. It makes the board flip really fast and immediate. Before I thought of sliding then flicking, but that’s too slow and inconsistent.
flicking before sliding?? how can I learn this power? When I do it its inconsistent
@@pierrekk It’s not before sliding. It’s while sliding. The idea is as you’re dragging your foot across the grip, your ankle is bending and then flicking out. Technically it’s bend the ankle, slide the side of your foot, then flick out, but when I think of it like that I’m too slow. If I slide and flick at the same time, everything coordinates better for me. Maybe it’s just personally helpful, but it really works for me, so hopefully it helps others.
@@kwote Oh yeah thanks
@@pierrekk did you get it
This is gold. Would you be down to explain the "opposite pressure points" for multiple advanced fliptricks? I've got the basic fliptricks down, just need help figuring out the pressure points for advanced fliptricks & backside/frontside fliptricks etc.
Broooo thanks for this video,i've been trying lots of new flip tricks lately and some of them are way easier with that opposite pressure effect such as nollie bs flips and even nollie half cab heels.
I'm trying to learn tre flips so hopefully that video helps.
THANK YOU!
nollie half cab?
i dont think nollie half cab is a thing - you mean nollie fs heels?
Half cab is a fakie bs 180 but nollie half cab is the same thing nollie,you can call it nollie fs or bs heels if you want
@@matanaltjeacovson4117 a nollie halfcab would be a switch bs 180
@@olivewill7232 a nollie half cab would be what you may consider a switch half cab,it's a half cab but nollie instead of fakie
I always come to your channel to acquire new, refine old, or just grasp a different perspective on tricks
This is wholeheartedly an underrated channel
Dude I really appreciate how you explain those tricks in every little detail. They are really helpfull, at least for me. Keep up the great work!
Much love from germany ❤️🤙🏻
Awesome, perfect timing!
this helped me so much, i cant even put in to words.Thanks
This is A very useful video. If you dismantle your trucks and put a small amount of dish soap on either side of your bushings and in the pivot cup it will stop the squeaking in your trucks. Thank you for making this
Another interesting trick tip on a vaguely related topic would be the alleyoop effect of paradoxically pop/scooping tricks “away from themselves” a la backside or frontside flipping sort of toward their respective lipslide directions. I over worded the hell out of that but I’ve found this maximizes pop and catch. I realize it’s kind of just a mental hack and a long way to explain staying centered but it helps me. Even tre flipping “backwards” as if going into a bs 5050 makes my tres tighter and more controlled.
hey bro can you please explain more in details about the "alleyoop effect of paradoxically pop/scooping tricks"? I think I understand what you mean by that but am not quite sure that I don't get anything wrong. Maybe what you're talking about is exactly what I've been thinking for a while but don't know how to process my thoughts over this theory. Thank you so much ...
💯 many skater don’t know about this ✨🙏🏾
i think some peoples trucks are too loose and they probably do get wheel bite and that could be an issue especially if they're leaning the wrong way. amiright?
i first grasped this when learning nollie inward heels, ben degros mentioned the 'spring loading' effect and it made the trick so much easier
this is what i be tryna explain to people when learning treflip i swear this dude know it all he even gave the muska hardflip pressure tip too like i didn’t even know that’s what caused it
revisiting before going out
“That crazy mike mo guy was right” fr tho this very informative. A secret skate tip no one really mentions. Good stuff
😮 pressure and resistance makes the board snap because of the opposite effect, all you’ll need is timing and right amount of pressure. bloodclat this man is cold
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What kind of Emericas are those, the look amazing!!!
Thank you also for this amazing video
Yes someone was trying to explain this
Some actually dope tips
Really good advice man
Shane O Neill can switch tre double flip cause of this. It's mostly all because of the pressure he puts on his toes in the back foot.. once he pops the board already wants to switch tre(without even flicking), so now he just add a little extra flick(you can notice when he does it he doesn't even flick that hard,and his flicking foot is placed way up the board)
Get that flip pronunciation 🤣🙌
Love it
You don't need to flick your front foot for 360flips at all, like Ellis Frost does them. It's the compressed rear truck unloading itself abruptly, springing up against the ground when the scoop pressure is released, sending the board into kickflip rotation.
360heelflip (lazer flip) also does not require front foot if you take advantage of this technique, as it's the same rotation as the tre really, only mirrored. Instead of hanging your toes, you keep only your toes and the ball of your foot on the board, and use that to load the truck to the opposite side (to your tre), then scoop frontside, with your toes.
Can you make a video on skate pants, so much to talk about, mobile pants, dress pants, skate and everyday oants
Solid video! A bit of Speed Cream or some wax shavings in the pivot cups will get rid of that squeak, haha
This is going to take enough time to practice while adjusting the skateboard and making the pressures of the side of the griptape will have a lot of differences between the flip tricks, grab tricks, grinds, and etc. I am just subscribed to your channel 💯👍🔔 My birthday 🎂🥳🎉🎈🎁 🎊 was yesterday! 🔵🔴⚫⚪🏀💯🕶🙏 🛹💥🔥
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@@SKATEHACKS Thank You!
The Old Trucks Squeaking -- The common fix for squeaky bushings is to put some soap or wax inside of the pivot cup bushing. I wonder if it's okay to spray some lithium grease because I did not want to take apart my trucks and it seemed to do the job.
laquer.
I’m sure someone has already commented this but the squeak is from your pivot cups in your trucks not the bushings. If you take your trucks apart and put a little piece of wax in each pivot cup it will stop squeaking.
yes the pressure effect is so important for making the tre flip snap! No one explains this!
Dope vid man!
Do you think loose trucks help with this theory? I always struggle to get the flip portion of the tre. They only work by swinging my front foot around with the 360 motion enabling the flip. But I do ride with stiffer bushes in my trucks... I wonder if softer bushings free's up the boards tilt? But I've tried soft bushings and I'm speed wobbling around the park?
Yes you’ll have a harder time tilting to either side if your trucks are tight
have you tried the Emerica Pillars? I was on the half cabs but I love the Pillars now.
Skate Hacks could you make a tutorial how to bs feeble grind to 50-50? I will be grateful.
Far more novice than you but figuring out pressure and pressure points on the board early on really propelled my skating beyond where it should've been at that point.
I do all my kickflip based tricks with my back foot in/over the toeside pocket, I find it balances me out on the board so much better and keeps it underneath me.
Me too. If it's good enough for Nyjah.....
This works with hardflips? I swear it makes mine go hella vertical
Can you explain reynolds back foot when he does fs flip? It is completely the other side of the pocket like ur varial heel position
Could you make heelflip in to crook tutorial?
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Now what is your opinion on kiwi flips? (backfoot laser flip)
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Hi Will no way are you crazy .
You’ve really thought about how tricks work
And that would help anybody’s skating .
Even if I’m not ready for these tricks it all makes Sense.
Also just a tip with your deck bolts if you countersink
The holes just a little they become flush it’s something
I don’t know why seasoned skaters don’t do .
Not gonna lie my tre flips got way more consistent when I did the opposite, pressure on the front foot.
Thanks🤘
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PLEASE HELP!! Can you make a video or explain in the comments the following issues. Whenever i bend my knees to pop any trick my back foot heel always rasies upwards, and i only pop with my toes. This frustrates me so much and i hate the way it looks. For some reason i cant keep my heel flat as i have no power to pop. Do you know whats the issue?
That’s fairly normal, because the power of springing yourself off the ground comes from your toes, not your heel. Even if you start out flat, when you pop, you MUST spring off the toes to even get anything because that’s where the power and precision comes from. But If you’re already setting up with the heel raised that’s just a habit and there’s no easy way to undo what you’ve sunk into for months/years etc except for the painful labor of correcting yourself at each chance to form a good habit instead. Therefore the problem with not having your heel flat at the beginning is just an aesthetic problem, because right when you pop, you’ll need to spring up from the toes anyways
Thas my guy. Flores my problem is da flick. it never turns all the way 360. I'm centered over the board but it underflips and i can never flick it hard enough, I'm 190 pounds and tall so I don't have super ups. I need a tre flip tutor
In theory, Its not about your effort because a skateboard is less than 5lbs. Anything heavier has control over it. Youre 190lbs you should be dominating it. Your issue is technique. I think technique goes into weight distribution and foot placement. If its underflicking your feet arent set up right, or your flick timing is off. Your weight is ok because your said your centered. My advice is dont flick harder, flick it right ( in the sweet spot.)
Get some lubricant in the pivot cups or wax will do good
Thanks alot
tension or pressure is one of the overlooked things in skateboarding, u gotta let gravity do its work man. even when doing ollies if i creat tension with my front foot i find that my ollies are higher
Nose manual Nollie flip out tutorial?
I do this with my heel flips
same
Noticed you’re in San Antonio, are you on IG?
Put some wax in your pivot cups. It will fix the squeaking.
Yo I did not know about this, thank you! Do I need to take my pivot cups out to pit wax there?
@@gavingadway Nah just shave the wax with a razor in little pieces and put them inside the pivot cup
@@tinman6076 Dope
@@iguessthisismyyoutube5328 So you’re saying that I can wax that too?
I use bacon grease
do u guys like loose trucks or tight trucks
Tight
loose until I need to try something harder than I'm comfortable with
Skate Hacks: to treflip, you need to flick with your front foot
Whythetrick: I'm gonna end this man's whole career!
Nah I affirm his tip, you don’t need to flick the front foot at all, it can be 100% passive and the back foot can shove the board and cause it to COLLIDE with the front, and it will cause the kickflip with no front foot flick. Watch Gustavo do a tre. But that’s probably not good practical advice for a beginner who hasn’t gotten it down yet. Even a little flick helps with the resistance you need to do the tre.
@@SKATEHACKS "Nah I affirm his tip" Ik it was just a joke lmao, I do appreciate your statement tho
do you still do patreon?
No I stopped last year, got too busy for it
I think people in my area do different tre flips to you. we have all of the weight on our front foot and scoop straight ahead with a tiny flick. there is no counteraction.
This rules
I do that for hardflips and frontside flips when my board loses its pop
Doesn’t it make it go super vertical tho?
@@thatoneguywho3434 it does for hardflips
@@elkiwi1978 how do you get the board to rotate completely frontside for hardflips? Mine always lands like 100 instead of doing the full 180
You should do crook pop over
i pop opposite with my heelflips
check WhyTheTrick's ideas on tre flips... the front foot does virtually nothing - it doesn't need to flick. it's all back foot.
That’s true but in my opinion it’s not practical to those who are new to tres. The mere presence of the front foot is necessary even if it doesn’t move, because the back foot will complete the scoop and shove the board into the front foot, even if it is not moving, causing it to collide with the board and cause the flip. If you also flick a little, it can make a difference.
Flick a lot, and you can get a double/triple tre. Not flicking is characteristic of someone who’s mastered a tre. Like Luan or Felipe Gustavo. You could apply it as a beginner but you it might look low/slow like WhyTheTrick. It’s a good video but I think it’s still ok to motion a small flick or at least extend the foot out. Hard flicking is unnecessary though
Feel like the arrows in the thumbnail are misleading on tre flip plus foot position ( dont get me wrong the foot position is right, just misleading to the direction of the flick and scoop) so if you scoop how the arrows are telling you to the tre will almost always land behind you
The back foot scoop you want to scoop behind you but in a forward direction if that makes sense, it also helps to not flick your front foot up more straight forward or almost down since you want to be in the back seat for this trick
Edit: also remember skateboarding is a full body sport not just your legs so your shoulder position and weight on the board is probably more important than the scoop and flick itself
I don’t think the arrows are showing the scoop. It’s a video on pressure and the arrows point towards the pressure points
@@urbanumbra6170 still think its misleading when you could’ve easily put the arrow in the direction of scoop as well as pointing out the foot position at the same time
This shit is necessary to successfully land a tre flip or heel flip
I've been told this by an oldhead
You literally explain the counter-pressure required for mostly all tricks, absolutely backwards my man ;) but no offense; people who understand this cant explain it in layman's terms.
To use your example, in a 360 flip the pressure is on the front foot until you're about to pop, in which you shift that weight almost completely off the front foot onto the back foot/pocket just before you pop. You don't ride with all the pressure on the back foot as you allude to, you shift the pressure there immediately before you pop, so most of your weight is on the front foot to begin with.
I get what you're trying to say, and I'm sure the above is what you do else you'd see no results; but you just deliver it incorrectly :)
I don’t think you understood the video. The point of the video is the counter pressure of toe side vs heel side, not front vs back foot counterpressure. No, the weight doesn’t need to reside on mainly the front foot before the tre. They can be equal and the back foot is increased to pop. But it’s irrelevant to explain that as well, the point of the video is the toe/heelside aspect of certain tricks, specifically at the pop.
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