Common mistakes of scoop in Treflips / Shove-its. Analysis on the lightness of tricks.

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  • Опубліковано 17 лис 2021
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    Especially for those who are learning their Treflips or shove-it’s, it’s important to understand why steezy Treflips are possible.
    Being able to steezy Treflip can be translated as “being able to time it right.” In this video, we study h ow proper timing makes it easier to flip our boards.
    Please take a moment and try to study this in detail.
    I'm trying to eliminate subjectivity from my explanation as much as possible by referring to scientific and physics theories. Please use my 3D models to solve your "why."
    #skateboarding
    #treflip #trayflip #360 kickflip
    #howtoskate
    #スケートボード
    #トレフリップ
    #3D
    #blender
    #three.js
    Traditionally, skateboarding how-to videos have always been subjective and the majority of explanations are based on speakers' experiences.
    To avoid relying on my personal experiences, please fully utilize the 3D models.
    All skaters have different questions.
    So that you can analyze skateboarding tricks in detail and solve your "whys," those 3D models are made fully interactive.
    The 3D models feature these functions below:
    - change camera angle
    - adjust play speed
    - change transparency
    - display gridlines, etc.
    Aside from that, I try to explain concepts of skateboarding tricks based on facts, calculations, scientific and physics theories. I may make mistakes so please leave a comment if you find anything.
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  • @justkarl9262
    @justkarl9262 2 роки тому +107

    Can we just take a minute and apperitiate how much effort he put in this video? This is amazing.

    • @whythetrick
      @whythetrick  2 роки тому +14

      Thanks a lot!
      But I'm actually doing this for me. I always wanted to create a sort of service where everyone can share their experiences without relying only on their subjectivity. I want to change the way we pass on what we have. Otherwise, as soon as we quit skating, all those pain, blood and tears and excitement will be lost.

    • @justkarl9262
      @justkarl9262 2 роки тому +3

      @@whythetrick amazing, you’re a gem for skateboarding, I wish you all the best. I can treflip but just from the thumbnail I understood that you put a lot of effort into this so I had to check it out xD greetings from Norway ❤️🙏🏼

    • @_wonge
      @_wonge Рік тому +2

      Agreed! I love the 3D models and detailed explanations

    • @mstunameow
      @mstunameow Рік тому +1

      I was skeptical at first when he starts talking about gravity and crouching but he really brings it all together so that it all makes sense and I think the physics are accurate

  • @Laurap01
    @Laurap01 2 роки тому +376

    Finally, a skateboarding tutorial acknowledges that you have to jump BEFORE you start your tricks.

    • @magortom
      @magortom 2 роки тому +18

      It is rare to see that mentioned, however I imagine maybe it's because for a lot of people who aren't used to whatever trait they're learning it can be confusing considering in real time most aspects of a trick feel simultaneous as opposed to sequential

    • @DScapo0
      @DScapo0 2 роки тому +7

      Took a Japanese man too XD

    • @cosmicmirrorstorm1797
      @cosmicmirrorstorm1797 2 роки тому +1

      Been asking skaters this question for years

    • @allhxrt
      @allhxrt 2 роки тому

      Like 223 😌

    • @miguelmota5447
      @miguelmota5447 Рік тому

      @@magortom what u talking about are te thiferent olies tecniques, u can pop an high olie without jumpiing, or u can just higher and do a ittle olie, these are the xtremes

  • @AvocAdo5096
    @AvocAdo5096 2 роки тому +8

    you have no IDEA how much this helped. I JUST LANDED MY FIRST TRE FLIP 30 mins after watching this video. HOLY SHIT ITS 1:30 AM AND IM GOING NUTS BRO NUUUUUUTS
    1 and a half years after standing on a board I finally land one. I sincerely thank you

    • @whythetrick
      @whythetrick  2 роки тому +2

      Greaaat!!
      Really glad to hear that. It's easy to forget how it feels after some time.
      Just focus on separating jumping and scooping/popping.

    • @whythetrick
      @whythetrick  2 роки тому +2

      but your name tho

  • @Flippy
    @Flippy 2 роки тому +86

    Brilliant video! There's many factors involved including posture of the hips and shoulders, and the pressure points on the board and the band of tension between them. Using blender to illustrate this is very helpful.

    • @ProjectASkate
      @ProjectASkate 2 роки тому +2

      Didnt expect to see ya here flippy.
      Took a long 3 year break?

    • @theharvardyard2356
      @theharvardyard2356 2 роки тому +1

      I member you. Make more thps vids ya goob

  • @fabiomatos896
    @fabiomatos896 2 роки тому +50

    This is by far, the best explanation of a 360 flip I've seen. It shows practicing but also the mechanics involved. Awesome, congratulations!!!!!

    • @CobraMJD
      @CobraMJD 2 роки тому

      Really? This seems a Pressure Flip for me.

  • @jeremystidham1809
    @jeremystidham1809 2 роки тому +5

    Amazing man. You have helped a 35 year old skater do things he never has. Thank you again

  • @R0lphy
    @R0lphy 2 роки тому +31

    I never heard to concept of jumping BEFORE you start your trick. Even without trying it, it already makes way more for almost any trick. Thanks for visualizing it this well. Great stuff!!

  • @TheDailyPush
    @TheDailyPush 2 роки тому +75

    Man this video was absolutely amazing!! Like really so good! Scooping when your momentum's going up is such a solid recommendation. The only part I would disagree with is the pause at the bottom, this is because something that contributes a lot to the power we can generate in a vertical jump/popping a trick are the elastic structures in and around your muscles and joints. They essentially work like an elastic band that's pulled back and released - building on top of the force you could create with your muscles alone - this process is known as the 'stretch shortening cycle' (SSC). The more you pause, the more the stored energy in the SSC is dissipated as heat. Instead, I would recommend developing the SSC and your ability to create power over pausing at the bottom (there are exercises on my channel to do this). Anyway, thanks for the vid! You gained a subscriber!

    • @Corn0nTheCobb
      @Corn0nTheCobb 2 роки тому +2

      That's something I didn't know about. Interesting, thanks for the knowledge!

    • @wacamac1006
      @wacamac1006 2 роки тому +2

      so like a rubber band? the longer you stretch it the more the elastic energy dissipates.
      I just realized why stretching helps a lot more now

    • @whythetrick
      @whythetrick  2 роки тому +10

      I've posted like 15 videos so far but this is by far one of the greatest comments. Thanks a lot!

    • @TheDailyPush
      @TheDailyPush 2 роки тому +2

      @@whythetrick ​ @whythetrick Glad you appreciated it 🙏 Thanks a lot for your videos! Maybe we could do a collab some time...

  • @aramori
    @aramori 2 роки тому +28

    Wow you just showed up in my recommended, but this is a really fascinating channel. Sometimes I really feel like a physicist when I'm trying to understand tricks and these videos provide a nice breakdown of the physics. Do you think you could do one focusing on the heelflip flick? I feel like a lot people, myself included struggle with flicking heels.

  • @Woodywoodah
    @Woodywoodah 2 роки тому +5

    Love the 3D models and detailed break down! Would love to see more sciencey skate content like this.

  • @pat7917
    @pat7917 2 роки тому +1

    You keep these videos coming and I’ll keep watching. Thanks for giving this gem to the skate community.

  • @wodyactual4716
    @wodyactual4716 2 роки тому +6

    Really appreciate and admire the amount of effort it took to make this video, just subbed and looking forward to watching and learning more from this channel!!

  • @jennydeepable
    @jennydeepable 2 роки тому

    Really liked hearing your breakdown of this trick, and the animations. Good memories seeing the local Tokyo spot too. Thanks for the content

  • @wenquai
    @wenquai 2 роки тому +13

    This is the most amazing skate channel I’ve seen 🤩 Please don’t stop making videos!!

  • @Zk8er35
    @Zk8er35 2 роки тому

    Thanks to the algorithm for introducing me to this channel. I've always been fascinated with the detailed physics for skate tricks.

  • @LucasFesmire
    @LucasFesmire 2 роки тому +6

    Just found your channel. I’m in my third year studying engineering at school and feel like I’ve been waiting for your channel all my life. I love these types of breakdowns for tricks.

  • @Corn0nTheCobb
    @Corn0nTheCobb 2 роки тому

    Wow, this is really awesome. I've never seen such a detailed breakdown before. The animations with the force arrows were great for visualizing exactly what's happening.
    You just earned a new sub!

  • @manmanlai77
    @manmanlai77 2 роки тому

    Thank you for making such a deep insight of skateboarding video. This is a game changer for everyone!

  • @CallMeEsteban
    @CallMeEsteban 2 роки тому +1

    Wait, I’ve been skating 26 years and literally have never had this thought. Thank you!

  • @seggszaft
    @seggszaft 2 роки тому +2

    Perfect explanations… keep up the good quality!

  • @bernardesp_
    @bernardesp_ 2 роки тому +112

    another gem as usual. what do you think about making some content on head/shoulder/vision positioning on 180 body tricks?

    • @whythetrick
      @whythetrick  2 роки тому +20

      Sounds good. Please let me know what you have in your mind though.
      I’m guessing I could make a video about “the importance of using shoulders in fs/bs 180” or something.
      But other tricks like bigspins or bs360s also require the use of shoulders. Any specific trick you would like me to talk about?

    • @bernardesp_
      @bernardesp_ 2 роки тому +10

      @@whythetrick bs360 is a solid one. My doubt when doing 180s is where to put my weight during the rotation, like where is the best place to put the angle of rotation and where to look (like should i start looking foward and then land looking backwards?)
      Thanks for the content again!!

    • @christpierre
      @christpierre 2 роки тому

      @@whythetrick unrelated but I can tell your channel will be big, please keep uploading

  • @mtgguiltfeeder4111
    @mtgguiltfeeder4111 2 роки тому +14

    Praise the algorithm!!! Great info and breakdown!! It really helps put it all into perspective when you start thinking about the physics involved. Thanks for the great video!! Science!!!! 🤘🤙

  • @zvttx9615
    @zvttx9615 2 роки тому

    This channel is an absolute gem man. God Bless

  • @MattDiGi
    @MattDiGi 2 роки тому

    this is seriously the best tip for tres, i figured this out years ago and it made me finally learn them

  • @NiejakiZoxico
    @NiejakiZoxico 2 роки тому +2

    Whoa. That's the best treflip tutorial I've seen. And I've seen many. Opened my eyes to some aspects. Thanks A LOT, it really is a high quality content

  • @klxnproductions9813
    @klxnproductions9813 2 роки тому

    Bro this is super dope props for the channel man. The future of skateboarding haha. This is a next level tutorial right here

  • @nilo_river
    @nilo_river 2 роки тому +1

    Finally! Most skateboarding tutorials don't take into account the body, the jump, the arms and shoulders.

  • @JaydenSteele
    @JaydenSteele 2 роки тому

    I just wanna say thank you very much for taking the time to scientifically break this down making this so much easier to understand.

  • @rob_ky0216
    @rob_ky0216 2 роки тому

    These videos are great ! Cant wait for more bro, thank you👍

  • @macguirenelson8974
    @macguirenelson8974 2 роки тому +1

    Thank you for being the only person that actually goes in depth on the science of a trick… this video is great

  • @messybessie4167
    @messybessie4167 2 роки тому

    0:02 Idk why but I love the way he says shove-its, it just makes me smile inside.

    • @whythetrick
      @whythetrick  2 роки тому +1

      So do I lol.
      No really, sorry if my pronunciation’s hard to understand.

  • @jadeackerman8611
    @jadeackerman8611 2 роки тому

    brilliant brilliant work. I am amazed at the amazingly simple concepts that are still so easy to not realize. you laid this out so well. Now I understand also how to get so much more pop, as you need to be nearly leaving your board before you pop it/scoop it

  • @graalcloud
    @graalcloud 2 роки тому

    I just spent 2 years watching every youtube video with no luck and just going out and practicing every day until I finally figured out flatground tre flips. And then you decide to upload this, AFTER I finally figured all this out. Great video, you're the only person to upload a video that even comes close to properly explaining this trick.

  • @luizhenriquegobbo
    @luizhenriquegobbo 2 роки тому +3

    Great video and channel! I'm mechanical engineer and this physics analysis of the tricks motion really made me understand my skateboard tricks so much better. Cannot wait for other videos. Cheers from Brazil!

  • @filipecava
    @filipecava 2 роки тому

    Love what your doing, thanks for all the hard work!

  • @-boost-
    @-boost- 2 роки тому

    I predict this channel will blow up in a couple months! Great content! 🔥🔥🔥

  • @SteimntzMachadodeFigueiredo
    @SteimntzMachadodeFigueiredo 2 роки тому

    What a complete and didactic video I've just seen. Man, you are amazing your video brings together two brilliant concept skating and physicomechanical.

  • @forg0tten
    @forg0tten Рік тому

    These amazing videos earned you my subscription and an urge to show your videos to all my friends irl.

    • @whythetrick
      @whythetrick  Рік тому

      Welcome aboard! Thank you so much.
      Let me know what your friends say!

  • @Gwilfawe
    @Gwilfawe 2 роки тому

    This is ******* amazing! Serious science meets trick tips.
    This is incredible!

  • @benryan2009
    @benryan2009 2 роки тому +2

    Really awesome perspective, I bet this will help a lot of people that don't learn the conventional way. Completely explains why I can get the rotation so easily with one foot off the board, but don't get anywhere close when I'm riding on it

  • @markhunstein1320
    @markhunstein1320 2 роки тому +2

    It's been a long time since I've seen a skate trick tip that's made me realize something I've never thought about and say "of course!" I can't wait to try this

    • @whythetrick
      @whythetrick  2 роки тому +1

      What a great compliment. You are very welcome.

  • @WeedGreenPie
    @WeedGreenPie 11 місяців тому

    WOW so much work on this video, so helpfull. Best tutorial i've ever seen.

  • @Dirgean
    @Dirgean 2 роки тому

    Absolutely loved the video, just all those explanations are so revealing to me. Makes me understand a bit more why certain motions happen and how to feel you board better. Amazing, really splendid. This reminds me of Rodney Mullen and how perfectionist and dedicated he is to the art of skateboarding!! Thanks for your work!!

  • @sharpie12354
    @sharpie12354 2 роки тому

    Love this channel concept!

  • @ouzei
    @ouzei 2 роки тому

    Just found your channel. Such helpfull and well made videos! Thanks for making them in English too. I'm from Finland and I know this will help many people around the world 👍

  • @PlanetBayto
    @PlanetBayto 2 роки тому

    i am glad you addressed what the upper body is doing...many tutorials skip this part

  • @RafCenterMyself
    @RafCenterMyself 2 роки тому

    Well that's something new. Very cool idea! Keep it up.

  • @fibryrruihf
    @fibryrruihf 2 роки тому +3

    Amazing video and channel. The 3d modeling really helps put things in perspective. Subbed!

  • @devindeocampo3231
    @devindeocampo3231 2 роки тому

    this deserves way more views, this account is amazing

  • @markweller64
    @markweller64 2 роки тому +1

    Super helpful! I am that guy who has struggle bussed with tre flips forever. Going to apply these physics concepts next time and get this trick wired for once! Thanks so much

  • @ronniecreager2585
    @ronniecreager2585 2 роки тому

    I gave you a like. This video was really cool and helpful. Thanks!

  • @viniciusdeliz9093
    @viniciusdeliz9093 2 роки тому

    That was insane. Thank you!

  • @stevedoust4798
    @stevedoust4798 Рік тому

    I love these vids. Informative and trippy af.

    • @whythetrick
      @whythetrick  Рік тому

      You are very welcome. Thanks for your comments!!

  • @yamenttrpy
    @yamenttrpy 2 роки тому

    skateboarding physics channel. iv literally been waiting for this

  • @nowellpulido4121
    @nowellpulido4121 2 роки тому

    Best tutorial I've seen so far

  • @Sassholejack
    @Sassholejack 2 роки тому

    No skate vid has been so in depth going into the physics like this! Def followed for more tips, it’s a lot more than just learning the body movements. I feel like I can go give it another try, thanks!

  • @benjaminschweizer8764
    @benjaminschweizer8764 2 роки тому

    Amazing work man, keep it up!

  • @amaruhale2546
    @amaruhale2546 2 роки тому

    So impressed with the advice you give ! You’re really smart and cool

    • @whythetrick
      @whythetrick  2 роки тому

      thanks a lot. my videos mean nothing without viewers like you.

  • @midojonson8174
    @midojonson8174 2 роки тому

    This is great and has been helping me especially the kick flip I was very stuck now I’m way closer to landing I recommend all the basics u cover Ollie shuv it pop shuv it fs and bs 180 and heelflips it would really help a lot I refuse to even watch other tutorials now too keep up the good work

  • @mpawli10
    @mpawli10 2 роки тому

    Been skating for 15 years and this is one of the most helpful videos I've ever seen and explains well enough that I may finally be able to get them down this year! Thank you

    • @whythetrick
      @whythetrick  2 роки тому

      People at your skating carrier precisely is my target. Those who can think and want to be better at skating. It’s great to be of your help!

  • @notfarfromgone1
    @notfarfromgone1 8 місяців тому

    best part - take a breath. all of this absolutely rips, but your mind is working preconsciously every time you try it to make it work. Via your recommendation to chill in the moment and on every try, all the mechanics make sense. Rad. Gratitude.

  • @brendenstanley4386
    @brendenstanley4386 8 місяців тому

    Your videos are a different breed brother

  • @mrfunnyman8244
    @mrfunnyman8244 2 роки тому

    this is the most in depth tutorial I have ever seen

  • @erwanan5971
    @erwanan5971 2 роки тому

    Really good video man!

  • @mewshow22
    @mewshow22 2 роки тому

    feel like I learning something engineering in college's class. love your content. Keep it up!

  • @BaphometSP
    @BaphometSP 2 роки тому

    omfg I'm gonna try this for sure, this is exactly the same problem I was having with my 3flips, THANKS!!!

  • @ForumDeskorolkowe
    @ForumDeskorolkowe 2 роки тому

    cool vid, keep going with this series

  • @teoth.5092
    @teoth.5092 2 роки тому

    New sub , what a amazing way to see the skateboarding

  • @maxia4584
    @maxia4584 2 роки тому

    This channel is gonna blow up

  • @GamerReaperDragon
    @GamerReaperDragon 2 роки тому

    incredible information! thank you

  • @xandro-7840
    @xandro-7840 Рік тому

    you have earned yourself a new subscriber friend. from this very simple analysis of the weight distribution I have literally somehow managed to unlock nollie 3shuvs and my ollies and kickflips have never popped so high or felt so natural. wow, I am flabbergasted bro!

    • @whythetrick
      @whythetrick  Рік тому

      Great! Maybe you are right. This timing thing applies to every trick. Thanks for the comment!

  • @juanmanosalvas2380
    @juanmanosalvas2380 2 роки тому

    you are awesome man!!!
    so much love to you bro

  • @gab-gn3br
    @gab-gn3br Рік тому

    amazing content, i actually landed my first treflip right after watching this video!!! :D
    Keep it up

  • @carlospereiravazquez1032
    @carlospereiravazquez1032 2 роки тому

    This is a nice video. I´ve never landed a switch 3 flip and now I think I know why! thanks for your help

  • @elpadre4202
    @elpadre4202 2 роки тому +1

    Nice break down. Will remember this when I try tre's next. Timing of the scoop

  • @martinjanmercurio2025
    @martinjanmercurio2025 2 роки тому

    man. I am trying to revive this trick. thank you for this.

  • @fahrradhupe3911
    @fahrradhupe3911 2 роки тому

    Wow! Thx dude! This explanation helped me so much! Now i do tre flips😶🚀🛹

  • @m_noway
    @m_noway 2 роки тому +2

    Amazing video! Loved it! The main problem i see for people who want to tre flip is that they put all their weight on their back foot. This makes the trick so much harder to actually do. Because you basically jump backwards and your board pops forward. So instead of holding it on the Blackfoot you have to hold your weight on the front foot. Hope this helps someone :)

  • @lucaswade2257
    @lucaswade2257 2 роки тому

    After i watched the video i went to my garage and landed my first treflip in 5 tries. Thank you much. I appreciate it

    • @whythetrick
      @whythetrick  2 роки тому +1

      Greatttt!!!
      That’s what I wanted to hear. This video would’ve been nothing without your effort. Great job.

  • @davidk9382
    @davidk9382 2 роки тому

    Golden channel, honestly.

  • @rickyalderton1243
    @rickyalderton1243 2 роки тому

    Awesome video! Wowziz. This is the type of content I signed up for.
    So many key tips. I'm using this to get pop shuvits and I'm also using more of the other things you mentioned in skating as a whole.
    Can you please do a video on how to get hangtime for flip tricks...

  • @urmom71717
    @urmom71717 2 роки тому +1

    I’ve damn near given up skating and trying to learn tricks bc I just couldn’t get it but this literally made it all CLICK thank you!!! Amazing content

    • @warsson1
      @warsson1 2 роки тому

      Dont give up. There's some tricks i cant do to save my life and ive been working on them since my teens.. Like anything with a late flip, like Hospital flips. Their just too much to fast for me. Just kinda work on your own style and have fun.

  • @steveberra1598
    @steveberra1598 3 місяці тому

    Dude. this is amazing.

  • @trianglecity5868
    @trianglecity5868 2 роки тому

    Amazing video. Thank you

  • @unidentifiedwizard3768
    @unidentifiedwizard3768 2 роки тому

    wow, cool channel. great idea to look at the physics of skateboarding!

  • @megalogoro6388
    @megalogoro6388 2 роки тому

    Genuinely fascinating and helpful ty

    • @whythetrick
      @whythetrick  2 роки тому

      you are welcome. please share your thoughts if any.

  • @loathingmachine
    @loathingmachine 2 роки тому

    this is amazing, thank you so much!!

  • @keikitano
    @keikitano 2 роки тому

    Love your videos❤️❤️❤️

  • @piterpattinson8241
    @piterpattinson8241 9 місяців тому

    this is pure gold

  • @gabrielharaldsondecker
    @gabrielharaldsondecker 2 роки тому +1

    great video! love your mind! my problem was definitely trying to force the board to rotate while still crouched, giving it no place to go.

  • @scovsil
    @scovsil 2 роки тому

    Wow! This is perfect tutorial, thanks Dude

  • @zenbauhaus1345
    @zenbauhaus1345 2 роки тому

    u sir are a genius for making this style of video

  • @quentinlauterbach
    @quentinlauterbach 2 роки тому

    dude amazing video i learnt so much from this it blew my mind :o

  • @lucasstordahl7718
    @lucasstordahl7718 2 роки тому

    perfect explanation 👌

  • @joshuamarks6175
    @joshuamarks6175 2 роки тому

    Love the vid. Thank you

  • @thedimidiumaffair5140
    @thedimidiumaffair5140 Рік тому

    Next level explanation.. great work!!

  • @nubbyy
    @nubbyy 2 роки тому

    Great video! very nice tre flip as well. Subscribed!

  • @markskippy5880
    @markskippy5880 2 роки тому

    this is gnarly that makes 100 percent sense to me
    at 37 and skating since 14 its whoa im quilty of the primo 360 flip to wrist snap myself

  • @pauljacovino2621
    @pauljacovino2621 2 роки тому

    Subscribed. This is absolutely amazing. Thank you 🙏🏻

  • @fhhu3167
    @fhhu3167 2 роки тому

    I love this channel