Cops Breakdown The Sonya Massey Shooting That NO ONE Else Said
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- Опубліковано 4 лют 2025
- Special guest, Scott Savage, Joins us to discuss the Sonya Masse Shooting and discussing the background of the deputy who shot her.
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She rebuked him because he insinuated that she was going to throw the pot of water on him. She rebuked the picture he was trying to paint of her.
You’re 100% correct! And that white devil didn’t like that because they are godless and wicked. Therefore, they were triggered…… literally.
Exactly. In her mind, she took the accusation from the officer as a simple insult, uncalled for but just a simple insult, given the way he said it kind of jokingly -- until he suddenly turned and completely freaked out on her when she made that simple religious-based reply.
That statement was said to stop any back and forth on insults and to prevent misunderstandings, not create one. She already talked about God when they were at the door, and she also mentioned her Bible to him when he was asking for ID.
@@andiamador7156well said it was a joke. Plus he the one that told her to turn it off ‼️
EXACTLY!! She didnt just randomly say that. She said it for a reason. The killer was trying to play her for a fool. She already knew where he was trying to go.
@@greengrace21💯
I work as a driver at fedex one dui im fired the next day and can never work there again. The lack of accountability in law enforcement is a huge problem
300 police have been charged with DUI in Georgia in the last 8 years…. Do you know how many have been fired? Less than 12%!!!
If you do the math, 3 officers ever single month in ONE state are caught driving while under the influence! That is absolutely insane!
How are people still getting DUIs when uber and lyft are available? Id rather spend $30 for a ride than to risk my life and someone else's life.
I second this as a truck driver. We have a national database for any drug or alcohol related problems. If i get a dui im practically unhireable for 5 years at least.
Amen
Im mean christ his union is saying he needs his job asap with full pay. The problem is there are way too many people who support the blue no matter what which is crazy but they are brain dead.
The deputy should have left when she said she was fine and no evidence of a prowler was to be found.
She said thank yall i love yall 😢
They needed that ID fix
The deputy was the prowler.....can't rule it out...
@@Mina.15wow!!! She showed love and he didn't receive it 😢
Except by local accounts… he was the prowler. GPS his squad car and his locations prior to shooting.
Wow! This is the first time, as a black man (70), I have heard ex- cops speak up for justice AGAINST their own colleagues.
When you do this it leads to improved law enforcement. As it is said, "Bad things happen when good people remain silent.”
Thanks for watching! Keep the wisdom coming.
I didn’t like how they kind of downplayed the officer moving from place to place, like it’s a rare occurrence. It happens all the time.
Its refreshing to see these honest men
Hi, great commentary on this issue. I found this video because in the search bar I put “Officer Grayson’s tattoos” because I want to know what a particular tattoo meant. Can you please show all of his tattoos? I think one of his tattoos is related to a heathen/pagan religion. Surely Ms Massey became fearful once she saw those skull tattoos because they are against the Bible and God. Thank you kindly.
@@debbievalentine6810no such thing as an honest cop 😳
The civil rights lawyer UA-cam channel breaks it down perfectly. This was not justified period. No excuses for this officer.
Everyone who says she threw the pot at him needs to watch that video. After they kept yelling put the pot down when it was ALREADY down, she must have been so confused and scared. I think the only thing she could come up with is that they must want her to pour the water out so she did that. She was pouring it on the floor directly in front of her. The video you referred to is so useful. These guys should watch it. It breaks every single thing down frame by frame.
How do you know a Cop is lying? He is talking ✅
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@@charmanwilson6354channel name?
@@charmanwilson6354she poured it right away (just listen you can hear it) then ran the tap so the water that was in the pot after was not boiling water. She wasn't boiling it for nothing so my guess she was preparing again for after they left.
This cop didn't just make a bad decision, he was evil in his heart towards her
Yes that cop was a terrorist
A Bad decision??? He took her life... bad decision wtf
Exactly it's called racism
Exactly!
Soon as she mentioned Jesus he was triggered. I’m going bet he another one these cops who belong to a satanic cult judging by his actions and the skull tattoos on his arm.
How in the hell is boiling water going to start a fire ? The one with mental issues had a badge and a gun .
Facts, I thought I was the only one that noticed this
I was wondering the same, the whole time. I forgot my water on the stove a few times but besides of steam there's nothing happening.
wannabegolfin24-72 Did you even watch the video?
You don't cook do you? Once all the water evaporates, the pot can become extremely hot and may ignite nearby items or may start burning itself if it's cheaply made.
@albinosh4dow outright & total condemnation are the only acceptable talking points. Nothing else.
Im not a religious man, because i am very educated in monotheism. But i will tell you there is a spiritual component here that is being overlooked. This woman sensed something about this man. He proved her correct. Evil does exist.
I respect your belief. This is evil at its best.
Totally agree……She even stared at him intensely on the couch. In my opinion, she could see the wicked spirit and intent within him. Her words of faith, instantly brought out his demon. Can’t, or won’t convince me otherwise…..#KEEPTHEFAITH…⛪️🛐✝️🙏🏾🧎🏾➡️….R.I.P Young Angel!…🕊️❤
I agree that she felt bad mojo when she opened the door and said " please don't hurt me ". She even said "I'm sorry" cowering. I hope she haunts him.
@@casandrabullock9497 She's with God now, demons will torment him.
2 Corinthians 5:8 ...... to be absent from the body, and to be present with the Lord.
@@summerbreeze-d2l Amen 🙏
Im sorry, guys. Im I've been an officer for 12 ½ years. That officer used horrible judgment in action.
He killed her on purpose
That wasn't a 'judgment call'. He was pissed off at her the moment he started interacting with her and was looking for an excuse to shoot her. He didn't need to go in the house, he didn't need to put her in proximity of the pot, rebuking is not a threat, he was looking for an excuse.
@jannettb7930 I'm sorry maybe if I make it more of a simple corresponding statement. The officer was wrong. Did that help your argument? We all understand the same thing here. The officer was 100% out of line. He needs to face full accountability.
@jonathananderson825 I wasn't trying to disagree with you, I was adding to the sentiment. He used horrible judgment. But my clarification was that I didn't feel like it was *just* a judgment call, like oh anyone could have made this 'mistake'. I wasn't necessarily trying to say you personally were saying that. I think we're in agreement.
@jannettb7930 100% this entire thing is a disaster. It breaks my heart that their are people out here that use the law in vein. GOD rest her soul
You have to be as wicked and evil as this officer to agree with him
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A lot of sick minded people in this world do
Satanic worship is rampant among cops. It’s not in every department but it isn’t uncommon. He has all those skull tattoos and soon as she mentioned Jesus he was triggered.
Facts
None of them agreed with him at any point in the video
I'm not a cop, but I have common sense. If he felt threatened by the pot of hot water, shouldn't he have stepped back and commanded her to put the pot down and step away from it?? He created that scenario so he could justify his cold-blooded murder!...and to put icing on the cake, HE LIED and said she was coming toward him with the boiling water! Some officers wouldn't have balls without a badge and a gun!
RIP SONYA MASSEY 😢
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Right. They both could have stepped back if they were so in fear of the boiling water that they asked her to remove from the fire. They set her up to be killed. He knew she had mental health issues from the start. He asked are you okay. She says, I'm taking my meds. They were aware and should not have entered her home unless she displayed a danger to herself which she didn't.
He didn't feel threatened, so stop it she bent down from fear he went around the counter to shoot her, and she never threatened him 😮 saying I rubuk you in the name of Jesus' criest is no threat 😮
He did she put it down there is other footage then when he got close they threw it
@@herosan2361that is FALSE! His department did an investigation and determined the shooting was unjustified. Don’t get on here and lie!
In my opinion, anyone convicted of a DUI should be automatically disqualified from ever becoming a police officer.
Where I am you can't be a CAB DRIVER with a DUI. I think Lyft and Uber both don't allow ppl with DUIs to drive.
Cops ABSOLUTELY should not be a cop with a DUI. It shows poor decision making.
In my country you would be disqualified from any public sector job as where I live you can not be a public servant if you have any criminal convictions and DUI is a criminal offense
So many judges have dui's and still judge others
100% AGREE!!! You cannot drive for Uber with a DUI
@michaelahickman lol...if you were Black(no idea), u wouldn't need nor have an opinion. You would not be hired..
One thing that this panel missed out that was very important was Sonya told this psycho cop at the front door that she didn't want to get hurt. He knew on so many levels that she was afraid of being hurt.
Also, to those that are non-Christians, she rebuked him because, on instruction from this cop, when she went to take the boiling water off the stove and was turning the water into the sink, she noticed the cop was backing away. She asked him why he was backing away and he said he didn't want to get scolded by the steam of the boiling water. Besides the fact he was way too far away for that to ever be a remote possibility (if it wasn't scolding her who was holding the pot, how could it ever scold him?), she saw that he was creating a false narrative of being 'in fear of his life' from the boiled water even from then and she rebuked him (and that deception) in the name of Jesus. The spirit/darkness within him didn't like that because he knew his nefarious thoughts and plan was exposed and that's why he went from 0 - 1000 in a split second.
This . This is exactly what I told my mom after we watched the video together.
Totally agree this cop became unhinged because he didn't understand what she was saying.
There is zero chance this was the first time he blew off the handle like that. Thankfully he had not killed any other citizen before Ms Massey.
One thing that is less discussed is according to a relative Ms Massey was a paranoid schizophrenic. As someone who worked over 10 years in the field of mental health we saw and heard many biblical references and the term we used to see if a client was becoming upset/aggressive etc was "going off". In those cases you can look into their eyes and their eyes become glassy. Like they see right thru you even though you are right in front of them.
That is never the time to approach a client with serious mental health issues like schizophrenia.
Cops training must tell them the exact opposite because we would never tell or ask a client to go near anything they could use to hurt us or herself.
@@davepirtle9790 Exactly. 2 burley cops in that room with a 5' 1" slight woman, who suffers with schizophrenia and who called the cops 'for help' because she was afraid and 'didn't want to get hurt' but 2 officers had the mindset to allow this woman to go and deal with the boiling pot instead of doing it themselves to take her and them away from any possible risk from the harm the psycho cop is now alleging. Make it make sense.
This was a set up and apparently this psycho cop knew Sonya Massey prior to this incident. Sonya had apparently had a run in with his fiance who is a nurse at the hospital that Sonya attended. That's not being talked about on all the vlogs and it needs to be because it puts his actions in perspective and goes to motive.
@@davepirtle9790 What makes you think this Neanderthal didn't understand what she was saying, how do you know he never murdered anyone else or killed them (yes, there is a difference), why do you mention LESS discussed & paranoid/schizophrenics becoming upset/agressive, looking through you when absolutely NONE of that was evident in that poor woman' behavior. As a matter of fact you sound as though you are talking about the POS who started the interaction immediately by being UPSET/AGRESSIVE (because she took too long to open her door, looking back I'd bet she wished she didn't open it), LOOKING THROUGH HER AS IF SHE IS NOT A HUMAN BEING by the way he talked to her; as though she was less than human when in reality, he is a SUBHUMAN POS SCUMBAG (as a matter of fact many people would love to have 5 minutes w/him cop-style, you know; hand-cuffed and unable to defend oneself) and lastly, how do you know what training cops get on "medical" issues, we are talking cops, right, NOT medical professionals...so how much training on medical issues, how often and do they actually retain the information when they mostly NEVER apply medical assistance at all, other than the occasional birth of a baby??? Do you actually know these answers or are they just assumptions from a...what was it, a mental health...what? assistant?, cafeteria worker?, you didn't say DOCTOR, PSYCHIATRIST, or any other specialist...did you leave that out purposely???
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Correction: He was never laughing"WITH" her! He was laughing "AT" her!. He was irritated when he arrived. He was condescending towards her from start. She was very humble and cooperative in spite of his unwarranted mean-spirited demeanor! One of the first things she said to them was, " Thank y'all for coming," and " Please don't hurt me." and she said,"I love y'all." She never posed a threat to either one of them, at any time. The 2nd Officier was complicid because he should have spoken up before shots were fired! 😮#Dumb&Dumber
They murdered her. When she said "I love you " that broke my heart knowing she was about to die. This is a sad situation. And people are really trying to make excuses.
Nothing else needs to be said
Exactly y was his body camera off the whole entire time until after he shot her even after he was disgusting calling her a bitch while she lay dying
The backup officer should have articulated to the primary officer to back up and holster his weapon. Instead he draws his weapon and then places himself directly behind the primary officer! He was useless being there to control a situation that should have been handled entirely differently.
I dont think the second officer should be part of this. In the video, you can see someone holding her and they have a look on their face and shake their head. Think the partner may have been new as well. Add on, it happened so quick. With the way dude is described and what hes done. He probably has intimidated the partner(as i write that i hear dude in video say as much)
WRONG!!
Miss Massey put the pot down on counter top/stove BEFORE raising both hands & crouching down. Get it right!!
Their way of justifying this nonsense... like they say all the time they need more training...🤨
What video were you watching she did not throw that pot a water@@josephpeterson1081
@@josephpeterson1081stop lying. She didn't throw it at all
@@josephpeterson1081stop lying I have watched both body cams and not at any point did she throw anything
They are watching an AI generated video wherebits supposed to chine from the shooters body cam
@@christopherwright5258
The officer saw the opportunity to harm another helpless black woman using deadly force and seized it. That cop is a psycopath and he meant to mvrder her. A demon on the loose
That’s exactly right and this happens every day,,, every single day…
I think that as soon as he noted that she was indeed alone he meant to harm her for "wasting" his time. I also think he assumed his partner's camera was off, which is why he turned his camera on and then started telling her to put the pot down. I hope he gets his hole stretched in prison.
I think it is very interesting that when his colleague showed up at the scene and discovered that he shot her, he immediately asked, "Where is her gun?" and when he said there was no gun, she had a hot boiling water charging at me! It says a lot when his colleague just goes silent!
She was never charging at him.
The 911 operator never hung up. He heard everything.
@@tammygarrett8427 we can clearly see she didn't but that was the lie he told his colleague
One look at the bodycam will tell them she never charged at anyone, but rather went to the ground and he still shot her. He should go to prison for a long time.
@@tammygarrett8427EXACTLY!!!!!!
The cop who was the shooter called his own partner a dip shit on camera after the shooting, that in itself speaks volumes as to his character.
Qualified immunity has come to mean that even when officers act illegally and maliciously and cause serious harm, courts refuse to repair the injury, instead allowing officers to get away with misconduct.
Yes! I heard that too!
@@ThulsaDoom-s5znot true.
I did not hear that. Why did he called him that?
All because he wanted to render aid to a dying woman...
And legally she didn’t have to give them any id at all. Stop trying to justify bullshit. They should’ve never been in the house at all.
I agree with you shit never been in the house. Should never been asked for ID. No prowler found around the house should’ve told the lady lock your doors. If you hear something. Call us back. I think the rules are reverse. I think he’s a nutcase possessed by demons she knew that, when she even asked him to pick up the Bible🙏🏾
You are absolutely correct, but remember she's dealing with some kind of mental issues
Which is why she stated she has papers...to show her mental state @gospelmusicbrooks-yates5979
They asked and she said yes. They didn't force it, at that point everything was good and no one had any issues with anyone (very peaceful and respectful). If you told them at that point it would have escalated no one there would believe.
@@Csett1she was to scared to say no.
Sean Grayson is a perfect example of what happens when you hire monsters. Six jobs in four years with two DUIs shows a complete lack of responsibility on the part of the Sheriff who has now chosen to retire and collect his pension. Sonya Massey was a sweet beautiful soul who couldn't have behaved any better. She resides in our hearts now.
You guys seem oblivious to the fact despite the video vividly showing us exactly what transpired. This cop promised to shoot Miss Massey in the face. That is what he did . He also asked her to remove the water from the stove , and she complied . If he assumed that she was a danger why didn't he retreat instead of going towards her? Show empathy to her instead of this spineless coward.
They literally said all that in the video and didn’t take the cops side at any point
That’s what I’m saying … these dudes are totally biased.
Didn’t that cop’s girlfriend get into an altercation with the victim previously? That’s the only reason that moron asked how she was doing mentally.
He had no empathy, he was a racist nut job. He had enough against him not to be able to carry a badge or gun.
Exactly
He advanced twice. Escalating, instead of deescalating, the situation and triggered her fight or flight response. It is ENTIRELY his fault. He WANTED to do this.
He wanted a kill to in his mind get cred with his blue line gang members
@@michaelccopelandsr7120 when she ducted behind the counter, back out the door. Problem solved. Your right.
That's that yt and I'm right bs that should have been handled behind the thin line,cowards
Yup, nobody seems to focus on this. He had a fear of boiling water, yet he closes the gap between himself and the alleged danger. Thrown water from a pot can be easily avoided at a distance.
He was trying to provoke a confrontation.
She planned this. She acted shady the whole time they were there. The partner kept checking for someone else to be in the house. They were on alert. They should have asked her to step back outside or they themselves should have gone outside when she rushed over to get the pot
She mentioned Jesus, The demon in the cop exploded.
He told her to get the pot! She called them for help! Why was lethal force used vs Taser!
Ya that plus at the time he fired his weapon the pot of water was already on the ground. So what exactly was the threat at the time she was shot? She had 1 pot of water not multiple pots so once that one pot was emptied on to the floor she was absolutely in no way a threat.
@@Rmoney1269420 it was a magic pot...
@@user4177 see I had actually considered that as well. Well what if it was a magic pot and maybe the officer that shot her in the fucking face was aware of the magic abilities of this pot and acted accordingly but I don’t think we will really know the actual answer to that until the full investigation is done and This isn’t just an ordinary murder where an innocent person gets 3 “headshots” this case is pretty complex especially when you add in the added potential that magic might have been using by the rebuker. I feel like we may never actually get all of the facts. The body cam is just too vague to really make any assumptions or opinions based solely on that, it almost makes you ask more questions than it does answer them. I could see this case easily taking 9 or maybe 10 years in court just for all of the facts to come out.
No taser was needed, if he thought the pot of water was a threat, he had ample time to turn the stove off himself while she was sitting on the sofa, but ang excuse would do, I wouldn't expect any different.@@Just-an-average_FBAB1
Does anyone notice she asked the person to stay on the phone while thise deputies were there? Why would anyone who safe with "law enforcement" ask another person to stay on the phone since help was there? Help wasn't there. The devil was there. She rebuked him in the name of Jesus and I hope ms Massey is in paradise right now ❤
Maybe....but things were pretty civil for the first part of the encounter and she thought someone was tryin to break in to begin with...I fully think the cop handled it completely wrong and he should be put in prison. Something i don't understand is why people who are afraid or weary of cops (as a group/spec individ) go out of their way to do and/or say things that (directly/indirectly) could be taken as a threat. I'm not personally afraid or weary yet my answers stay short, my mood is neutral and my body/vibe is loose but to the point
The demon in that cop didn't appreciate being rebuked in the name of Jesus
Yessss! You got it!.
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"I REBUKE YOU IN THE NAME OF JESUS." Now come out of him/her!!
Luke 10:19-20 KJV
19] Behold, I give unto you power to tread on serpents and scorpions, and over all the power of the enemy: and nothing shall by any means hurt you. [20] Notwithstanding in this rejoice not, that the spirits are subject unto you; but rather rejoice, because your names are written in heaven. - JESUS CHRIST
If u watch the video she knew he had a evil spirit . As soon as they walked in she asked him to grab the bible
I think her comment was a joke about the boiling water. When they said they didn’t want a fire, I think she kind of joke like she was talking to the water and rebuked it to say there would be no fire in her kitchen. But that cop was so triggered by that harmless comment that it’s eerie. His ego was so fragile and his racism was out of control that he his only reaction was that he was going to shoot her in the face. He said that was what he was going to do and that’s what he did. The water had nothing to do with it. He thought she insulted him and he couldn’t allow that. He would rather murder someone than let a black woman (possibly) insult him. (She was clearly not insulting him, though. She was calm and non threatening. He was too stupid to understand that, though.)
If you look at the freeze frame of when they're yelling, "drop the pot!" She's not even holding the pot!
EXACT same thing as *_”STOP RESISTING!!!”,_* or *_”STOP REACHING!!!”_*
It is the loose inaccurate phrase meaning stay the f away from the pot
@@theeraphatsunthornwit6266 Two VERY different things. Those very different things LITERALLY and LEGALLY.
@@hamhockjenkins if police say drop the gun and you are not holding a gun, will you find a gun to drop... that is insane.
@@theeraphatsunthornwit6266 you said a phrasing meant something it could never LITERALLY or LEGALLY mean… then you just made up a ridiculous scenario. You’re all over the place.
Sonya Masse wasn't the only mentally ill person in the room. The former officer is a psychopath who was not smart enough to think about how his actions would play in court just for himself.
I completely agree, he was already pissed when she took a long time to come to the door!
He was counting on what she was going through to get him off. There are different forms of mental illness and mental illness DOES NOT/DO NOT automatically mean a person is crazy.
He been getting away with that behavior a long time. The department knew he was a loose Canon. He killed before and got away with it for sure!
Yes
@@rswear He's sloppy when he commits crimes, is violent, lacks charisma, and is a terrible liar. True psychopaths/sociopaths are charismatic, calculating, and manipulative. I would argue he has antisocial personality disorder. Which is defined as a pervasive pattern of disregard for and the violation of the rights of others.
This is evident with the multiple DUIs, the physical abuse cited by his wife as the reason for getting a divorce, getting kicked out of the military for conduct that would've been a one-year prison sentence in the civilian world, and being fired by numerous police agencies for policy violations (driving recklessly chasing a suspect despite being ordered to stop, witness intimidation, excessive force with a taser and now being charged with premeditated murder).
I was a police officer in South Louisiana. I was 110# and 5’2” and was in so many of same types of situations as many of the unjustified use of force by law enforcement that have occurred in recent years. I almost never even had to draw my weapon, much less fire it! I pray that hiring practices, increased education and training upgrades, and true commitment to the profession and the communities served building a better rapport with each other and move away from these unacceptable outcomes for both law enforcement and communities! First time watching this channel and I am very impressed by all three of you! God bless you and your families and your professions! Godspeed.
I believe it is the increase in self defense training that causes this. It keeps police constantly thinking about being killed. Until they started this 92% of police officers in this country never pulled their weapon in their entire career. If you take away traffic accidents ( how most cops get injured or die) being a cop wouldn't crack the top 100 dangerous jobs list.
She knew it was a demon in her presence & that’s why she rebuked him.
May the Lord watch over you.
Yes!
Yup, the white kind smh.💀
Exactly
Amen that's what I said she saw that devil
Several years ago my next door neighbor was heinously attacked and seriously injured. I came home to maybe 5 police cars and a dozen cops in front of, inside and all around their property. I of course had no idea what had happened.
On MY front porch was a detective who was using my property, table and chairs, as an office. When I approached my front door and asked what was going on, he, very arrogantly and indignantly, told me it was none of my business and to leave immediately. I told him this was my house as I put the key in the door and opened it, and told him HE was the one who had to leave.
I was able to get inside and shut the door before he could get to me. He started shouting things like demanding ID and obstruction nonsense. I immediately called the department and told them I want him off the property or I would consider him an armed and dangerous trespasser. Within minutes, a superior came over and ordered him to leave. He glared at me with murder in his eyes through the window as he gathered his things and left.
If he'd been polite and asked to use my porch, I wouldn't have cared.
Outrageous!
What a jerk
glad you made it 🙏
That's crazy
Well you should have cared. Look at what happened to Johnny Harvey for helping cops
There is another video out by a lawyer on YT called "THE CIVIL RIGHTS LAWYER", who took the trouble to give still shots frame by frame and Ms Massey did not have the pot in her hand when she was crouched down on the floor in submission. The rogue cop was screaming for her to put the pot down, but she did not have any pot in her hand. So she stood up to follow the officer's instructions to pick the pot up and put it down again. She followed all instructions and was trying to follow this last instruction which was confusing as she did not when told to put the pot down have it in her hand.
Also the new responding cops came in to the scene and the first thing the responding cop said was "where is the gun" and the rogue cop freaked out as there was no weapon. He KNEW there was no weapon and realized only at this point that he was deep in the doo doo!
That rogue cop had mental issues himself or dare I say it he had a spiritual problem and was most likely possessed which is really the only reason why he or the demon would react is such a violent and wrong manner. Ms Massey probably saw he was possessed as her mental condition probably showed the whole truth of the rogue officers state. No sane huge hulking man dressed with police protective gear and brandishing a weapon would freak out at the statement "I rebuke you in the name of Jesus" for goodness sake. Only a demon would react that way and that demon took control of that officer to commit murder and to screw up the officer's future life.
Do not give the officer the excuse of saying that because he was so illiterate to not know what the word rebuke means was a reason why he took it as a threat. Why was he hired if he was so illiterate and ignorant of a simple word like rebuke? For F's sake why did this police department let loose an armed possessed guy with serious anger issues on the public? The police department must also be held accountable for letting loose onto the public an armed and unbalanced, abusive, and mentally distorted man in the first place.
This post needs to be higher up, I watched that video before playing this one and the comment you made is a true statement. She did not have the pot in her possession.
WELL SAID
howfarapartwerethey from each other?!😢
discharged vet may have ptsd?
Amen 🙏
Criminal with a badge killed someone. Period.
As soon as the old saying "99.9% of cops are good" was expressed it became a comedy show.
Same. It's so offensive and lazy to say that.
If I'm being honest, It's about 50/50 I'd say. And that's sad. Pathetic.
There are so many bad cops who doesn't understand the laws hiding behind qualified immunity. There's plenty of videos on body cam footage in UA-cam proving that.
That’s what they think about what they are “the good guys” syndrome
Exactly!
The fact that he LIED! And KEPT lying.. Says it all!
True
Him and his partner
Yes, he lied
My point of view is he wasn't laughing with her, he was laughing at her sarcastically 🧐
"They" were laughing 100% of his demons.
@sonunderbloodundertheblood1612 I noticed some peculiar artifacts as well.
It was the ecstatic feeling from the ultimate power trip that cops chase.
Right!!! The same sarcastic laugh he did on the porch when Sonya said I Love You Thank You and was getting ready to go in her home
Passive aggressive behavior. The actions of a coward.
I appreciate the level headed take from former cops. This was refreshing..
Ask yourself why are all 3 former Cops ?
It wasn't the Boiling Pot of water... it was her rebuking him in the name of Jesus that manifested his immediate reaction...his immediate vile and profane reaction revealed something you are missing. There was a spiritual component there that night...
Yes! Him being rebuked made his demons manifest.
Yes!!!
@@oyasvortex she saw it in him!!!
No, no demons. He viewed her as mentally ill, so her saying "I rebuke you in the name of Jesus" sounds like she is threatening him. But the guy was a jerk who reacted way out of proportion to a small, frail woman. Worst case scenario she throws water towards him and then they can restrain her. He had absolutely no justification for shooting her.
So where's the Christian outrage like that of the stupid Olympics?
After law enforcement realized that the civilian was alright and no intruder around - conclude the investigation and leave
They never should of gone into her house… there was no reason for them to go in. Not one.
@@tiffanystrand4423 Of course there was. They had to try to find something to arrest her for.
2 cops vs a lady with a pot. Boy oh boy, they were lucky to make it out there alive 😮💨
That’s what I said the Officer stood by Sonya at her front door was huge compared to her, yet he felt threatened by the thought of Sonya picking up a pot of salted water…he had to draw his weapon!! She wasn’t near him fgs..,,,she cowered down behind the counter and he still shot and murdered her in cold blood…No other way to describe what happened….wonder what a defence attorney is going to make up to even try and defend his sickening actions….😤😤😡😡
He knew Sonya had a mental issue his wife Work at the hospital that she was at earlier that day and his wife and Sonya had a disagreement. The reason She rebuked him because he told Her “let me move before You throw that water on me” then She rebuked him, because She knew that Devil was going to do something
@@daphnesmith1764is this really true?
@@daphnesmith1764exactly he came to kill the lady!
@@thomasspanjers7189yes indeed he came to kill the lady! Why did he have to see her I'd? If it was nobody was around the house all they had to do was leave her house! Simple and plain!
No she was completely of sound mind. They kept asking for stuff, that they didn't need to and deliberately befuddled her. She was trying to keep the dispatch on the phone because she sense something horribly wrong! If she was such a threat, and the water was a weapon, why would they tell the threat to move towards the weapon? They set her up! Period!
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and she called him out on it. so maybe not so mentally ill in that moment.
The Feds should take over this case so he can be eligible for the death penalty.
Could see it happening if they can get her race be a motive. Am now hearing about the connection between Massey and Grayson's girlfriend.
I like
The Fed's have the case.
Death penalty is too easy. He should get life sentence in GENERAL POPULATION and let the other inmates administer proper justice on a daily basis.
I hope that he gets out 🤷
How was this guy even capable of starting a career in Law Enforcement with a discharge from the military for serious misconduct?
Because they've driven out all the good cops and people who actually care about helping people
Bh
PD'S love egotistical assholes who are not afraid of covering up their misdeeds and for those around them.
ACAB
Yessss! No one is talking about that.
I appreciate everyone starting to call out nonsense such as this. This is what we need as a nation
I am very surprised at the number of cops on UA-cam who are and have been calling this out. The shift is beginning.
I was a deputy sheriff for a very large department. When I was hired back in the early 90s they had really high standards when it came to who they hired. Over the years the standards started dropping and the department started hiring people who had no business being in law enforcement. I don’t understand why so many officers are forced to resign from a department because of something they did that was wrong only to be picked up by another department. It’s time to raise the hiring standards across the country.
That woman saw the demon in that dude; and he definitely had a demon.
No such thing
@@stevjohnsonpooh there is!!!!
@stevjohnsonpo I don’t believe in god. I also thought she saw a demon in that man. Maybe evil is a better way. You’re thinking demon like what religion teaches us a demon is. But the killer is evil. She sensed danger, evil.
Exactly that's the moment he responded when she said I rebuke you in the name of Jesus he said you better not or
@@benjaminlong2837 and define evil for us please since you’re not religious. No offense but you don’t get to hop on the moral compass train if you’re not religious.
What you left out was the police was at her home the day before her murder by cop so the police knew who she was.
2 the 2 police officers did NOT have the right to walk into her home uninvited, she had a 4th Amendment right to be secure in her home, papers etc.
3. They knew who she was from the 911 call the day before and the 911 call the day of her murder by cop so there was no need to ask her for her ID.
4. The officers TOLD her to go into the kitchen to take care of the stove to prevent a fire.
5. The white cop wanted to kill that unarmed black woman, he told the woman that he would shoot her in the face. Name how many times a cop was killed or injured by a pot of water?
6. De escalation training?
He had NO de-escalation training?
He moved forward instead of backwards. He could have pulled out a taser, you cops claim a taser is not lethal right?
7. She was still breathing and they did NOT for minutes of discussion could have gave aid or even call an ambulance but didn't until it was well to late.
8. Was it necessary to call the black woman that was murdered a crazy b*tch? He just murdered an unarmed woman.
9. She had again the 4th amendment protection and they searched her home unlawfully.
10. They lied to the family saying she shot herself, then it changed to the intruder shot her but the family found out the white cop shot her on the news.
Did you watch the video or did you just assume they are blanket cop defenders?
Sonya Wilburn-Massey is my niece. I am so grateful for your comment. You have said everything I would have. My niece was so fragile mentally and physically. That cop is a demon.
@@evawilburn2182my condolences to your family. 😢
No one can save him now....he's at the end of his rope now....those that continued to hire him non of them can save him now that God has entered this situation. Vengeance is yahwehs
Isn't it odd that you all know police who operate in these "gray" areas? ... which indicates that most, if not more than most departments have this problem.
👆🏻 This!!
Every department has this issue. Every agency has the, "I was catching up to them" guys. We are not talking about gray areas of the law. We are talking about gray area of policy. In this case, this guy was a tool. He is very obviously a tool and I am sure the people who worked with him knew him as such. The problem is it is not illegal to be a tool who should not be there. Just as it is not illegal to be frail and socially awkward and have no business being there. Being a tool and pushing the envelope forms the base of the lethal triad of stupidity. It's finished out with poor decision making. Combine all of those and you get this. If any officer can't off handedly think of several people who fit this personality they are probably lying or in a very small and sheltered agency. That's why if I were hiring God for the day I would radically change the recruiting, hiring, and continuation training of law enforcement. The problem is that model will not produce the numbers you need to perform the current response model of the U.S 911 system. So we get this instead, just waiting on the next poor decision to watch.
@@andyfrist1957 , There was NEVER any gray area in this case... she put the pot on the counter, and raised her hands High in the air before ducking, and then came up with her hands up... It's a straight up murder! Watch 10 seconds > ua-cam.com/video/YihgP3zPFog/v-deo.html
If they don’t operate like Serpico, they’re all in the gray area
@@daveypirI don't think anybody is arguing about gray area in this case. The segment you are referencing is in relation to a pursuit violation he had at a previous agency.
It's weird how these three clowns don't show the video to back up the bs they are saying and how hard they are trying to push the mentally ill issue; The cop told her to turn off the stove then shot her in the face as she dropped down and pleaded for her life, plain and simple. The video clearly proves this woman was not a threat. Her hands were not even on the pot when the cop murdered her. But the sadist thing about this video is how these cop commentators are trying to sugar coat and soft walk through this murder to give this killer cop some kind of reason, excuse and justification for killing that woman.
Yep she had put the pot back down prior to him approaching her telling her to put it down. She does regrab it right as he goes to shoot her but that is self defence as he's calling bogus commands that is impossible for her to comply with or be shot. She's literally been told she will be murdered if she doesn't do something impossible for her to do.
I have yet to see the unedited video of this encounter. So I have to listen to a bunch of talking heads telling what the deal is instead of being able to make an honest assessment of my own.
@@leethorp2164why wait for them to show it to make a decision there's legitimate video everywhere like wtf u saying
they are a bunch of cowards who just bitch about how police training should be done so cops don't make mistakes. but the video promised that they analyzed this incident and they completely forget to mention that this cop executed her in cold blood. They even would rather criticized the second cop for drawing his gun even though he didn't do anything wrong. just to avoid talking about the guilty one.
Hello gentlemen I'm 60 years old combat veteran paratrooper and the thing that I dislike so much about the law enforcement Community is the lack of discipline both from the officer and to the officer there's no other occupation in the world where you can get away with doing the things that you all get away with doing especially to people that are living under a constitution that they chose to live under with laws they chose to write .when I was in combat there's times where there's a bad guy with an AK-47 or an RPG 7 and the government has deemed him my enemy but I can't shoot him until my lieutenant says that I can even though our government has said he's a terrorist but an American citizen can be killed or threatened with death just because the police officer is having a bad day and very often the police officer is covered by his leadership, I can promise you no company Commander will ever support the combo Soldier when he breaks the regulation that Commander is compelled to prosecute you.when you enter the military especially combat arms you effectively lose your rights and now fall under something called the uniform code of military Justice and your prosecuted for regulations not laws there needs to be a situation in place where the police just like any other person that works for a living where he goes to his job every day fearing he could lose his job today ,to me being a combat Soldier my life doesn't matter anymore the government is taking me away from my wife and family I made a decision to do this and my life is last on the list and I think it should be that way if you decide to wear a badge and a gun your self-preservation should be the last on the list not first on the list, honoring the Constitution should always be first on the list and the issue of tattoos back when I was in the Army in the 80s you were not allowed to have tattoos like that especially if you were to be captured then the enemy could ascertain some information about you so it was absolutely a no no, in closing the most important thing that the government is supposed to do and in fact the only thing the government is supposed to do is to ensure that my constitutional rights are not trampled on that's their only job if we're going to validate law enforcement which they're not in the Constitution the military is but they are not then we also have to apply the reality that their job is to make sure that my life is better buy enforcing laws that make our country great not by having ego-driven or narcissistic or out of control people being allowed to be police officers.Thank you.
Qualified Immunity has created monsters and full blown assassins
Thank you for your honest response.
Thank you Sir for being Honest, Truthful, and having Integrity‼️💯
AMEN 🎉😊❤ THANK YOU SIR FOR SERVING OUR / YOUR COUNTRY AND GOD BLESS YOU 🙌 🙏 ❤️
As a former military police officer, I can say that he could have never been accepted in the MILITARY POLICE CORP
he was in the army
Y'all are a bunch of woke clowns nobody cares about y'all either
Yup it has been revealed that the guy had a dui, multiple behavioral complains at his previous police station that he had anger issues. Yet he was STILL hired at another police department.
Oh some people slip through the cracks because my ex thrives on bullying control & power and he worked as a deputy and was in the military
@@karma_iswhoIam MP's have the same mission as street cops.
I love how they never mention that fact that she wasn’t even holding the pot of water. When she was shot. In fact the only thing in her hands were the oven mitts.
This podcast was a bunch of bs. They were trying to back him up without coming right out and say it.
Actually, that's not true. She did, at the moment before she was shot, grab the pot and throw it. (Watch bodycam in slow motion) However, the officer had unlawfully drew his pistol and threatened to shoot her while advancing on her. So she likely did it out of fear. It is still murder and the officer was unjustified.
@@r33th Yeah, but I'm pretty sure that action was a frantic attempt to de-escalate the situation. She was aiming the pot of water at the floor, not at the officers.
@@r33thWhat video did you watch ?
@@r33th she did not throw it. She was using the pot as a shield. She was still crouching.
When Sonja Massey said “I rebuke you in the name of Jesus!”…that made the Demon that cop is come out and destroy her!!!
Aggressive, impulsive, impatient, callous, irresponsible, insubordinate, lacking integrity, alcoholism, and can't stay in a job for very long... this is what happens when you give a gun and badge to a sociopath.
100 PERCENT - An accurate breakdown of the circumstances prior to the MURDER!
You're SOOOO right. I was gonna say this but you said it so much better..
This is exactly what's happening.
Yeah, but they had no reason to ask for her ID, and even less reason to be in her home. Those cops were shit. Absolute dog shit.
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they had a reason to she said the car in her garage was not hers and that she did not know who it was for all they know she could not be the owner of this home if she dont know if a car that is not hers is in her garage second they could be cheking if the person that she call for might be inside her home .but here is my argument ya can read it hope it change ya minds .
Religious Context and Misuse of Jesus' Name:
As a Christian, I caution against the misuse of Jesus' name. While invoking His name is powerful, we must remember that the devil can also use it to promote hate, especially in the end times. This is a scheme of the devil to create doubt and division among believers. It's important to note that some Muslims misuse Jesus' name, which contributes to this issue.
Incident Analysis:
In a recent incident, a woman had an interaction with police officers outside her home. When asked about a car in her garage, she responded indifferently, claiming not to know whose car it was. The officer checked if she was alone in the house, likely to ensure her safety and verify her story. After she was dead, it was confirmed that the house was clear, suggesting the officer was thorough in his checks.
Possible Motives and Actions:
The woman’s indifferent response about the car might have led the officer to investigate further. He might have been checking if she owned the car or if it was stolen, which are valid concerns. This thoroughness could be interpreted as the officer ensuring the situation was safe and understood.
Empathy for the Officer:
The officer involved was under high stress, and it's crucial to understand this context before passing judgment. People often overlook the immense pressure officers face, especially those with a military background. Their training and experiences shape their responses, which can differ significantly from those of civilians.
Public Reaction and Perspective:
Public opinion often shifts based on the outcomes of such incidents. If the officer had successfully apprehended a criminal, the narrative might have been one of praise. It's important to remember that many who serve in the military or police do so without question, and their service deserves respect, even as we critically examine their actions.
Call for Understanding and Compassion:
Ultimately, we must approach these situations with empathy and a willingness to understand the perspectives of all involved. Recognizing the devil's schemes to sow doubt and hate, we should strive to uphold our faith and compassion in the face of adversity. Christians should not be quick to doubt God's power just because His name was invoked in a tragic situation.
He was mad when he asked her to pick up the Bible and when she mentioned Jesus that set him over the edge. Satanic worship is rampant among cops. Not at all departments but it isn’t uncommon
@@herosan2361 The car was in the driveway, not her garage.
As A 26 year career OF THE BADGE...THE ASSSASSNATION of ""SONYA MASSEY ""will go down in INFAMY....😢DISGRACE OF DISGRACE!!!
Thank you for servicing your community and the courage to call a spade a spade.
Thank you!
I feel badly for you and other good cops. Just a shame.
This case really broke my heart.should have never happened, she was sweet and vulnerable,and he told her to go to the kitchen.sooo wrong this happened, so wrong.
Dustin Pigeon, suicidal, holding lighter fluid & a lighter, was shot 5 times by a reckless cop with previous killing of a citizen & dozens of disciplines, who escalated it while two other cops used de-escalation. Two cops approached Pigeon and attempted to de-escalate the situation, asking him to put down the lighter fluid and lighter.
A federal appeals court has upheld a judge’s ruling that Oklahoma City and one of its former police chiefs cannot be held liable for a police officer who shot and killed an unarmed suicidal man and was later sentenced to prison for ten years.
Two officers wore body cameras. One pointed a less-lethal bean-bag shotgun. The other never removed his weapon from its holster.
Moments later, Sgt. Keith Patrick Sweeney, a 34-year-old officer who was not wearing a body camera, approached Pigeon with his 9mm handgun drawn, yelling, "Drop it!"
Court filings show Sweeney had a long disciplinary history while working for the Oklahoma City Police Department.
He was hired as a police recruit in 2008.
In June 2011, the department gave Sweeney verbal counseling and remedial training after he used force to prevent a suspect from swallowing baggies of what Sweeney believed to be cocaine, court documents show.
In October 2011, the department gave Sweeney verbal counseling after he used profanity on the job.
A month later, the department gave Sweeney verbal counseling after he failed to make a police report concerning possible child abuse reported to him telephonically, and added his personal opinions to the call dispositions.
Three years later, in October 2014, the department reprimanded Sweeney for failing to comply with department procedures regarding barricaded people with mental illness after he barged into a home to use a Taser on an armed and suicidal woman.
February 2015, the department gave Sweeney post-incident training on the proper positioning and use of police vehicles for cover after Sweeney and another officer shot and killed a man who drove his car at the other officer.
In 2016, the department reprimanded Sweeney for failing to properly book seized evidence into the property room, failing to document a meeting that took place outside of work hours, failing to work scheduled 8-hour shifts, and changing his work schedule without supervisor approval, according to court documents.
March 2017, the department reprimanded Sweeney for using his police position to obtain confidential information regarding a case assigned to the Oklahoma Department of Human Services.
That same month, the department placed Sweeney on administrative leave while it looked into his investigative practices.
After Sweeney used profanity while making an arrest in November 2017, the same month he shot and killed Dustin Pigeon, the department ordered him to undergo remedial training on language usage.
About 2:30 a.m. on Nov. 15, 2017, officers arrived at the courtyard of a housing complex in southwest Oklahoma City after a 911 call from Dustin Pigeon, 29, who had threatened suicide.
Pigeon, who was intoxicated, held a can of lighter fluid and a disposable lighter and threatened to set himself on fire.
Bodycam video showed the flashlight attached to Sweeney's gun shining on Pigeon.
Sweeney shouted: "I will (expletive) shoot you! Get on the ground!"
After Pigeon lowered his hands to waist level, an officer fired one round from a bean-bag shotgun, striking Pigeon in the left hip.
About the same time, Sweeney fired five shots with his handgun, striking Pigeon three times, including once in the heart.
Two years later, an Oklahoma County District Court jury convicted Sweeney of second-degree murder for the shooting death of Pigeon.
That deputy placed himself in “officer induced jeopardy”. He’s one of those bored cowboy officers, who has worked in multiple small towns who thinks he’s special forces and has been waiting to create a situation like this since his balls dropped.
Totally agree.
💯😂
@@shotsfiredpodcast50 , He was NEVER in jeopardy, watch 10 seconds! --> ua-cam.com/video/YihgP3zPFog/v-deo.html
Nah he’s just a lunatic. Reference for this is his misconduct and dishonorable discharge from the army. Hes been a problem. He should have been deemed incompetent to even work in any form of law enforcement. Blacklisted at least by his 5th termination.
Exactly..Saw Brown face and said she wasnt worth being alive...
When her mother called 911 for her, she told dispatch that Sonya had mental issues and she begged them NOT to send a cop who would hurt her, her mother asked them to send cops that would be safe for her daughter! 💔And when Sonya answered the door she asked them not to hurt her! Being a Black woman myself, I know Sonya's fear, I'm afraid to call the cops for help for fear they may kill me like they did her and so many other unarmed Black women. 😢
I'm a white boy and I fear the cops.
I can't imagine what it's like to _actually_ have a target on your back...
This is Very heartbreaking
Ive only called the cops once and I tell you, the threatening aggressive energy I got from them during my domestic......ill never forget. One cop that was the only one not giving off those vibes kept asking me if i was anything other than black after I answered i was black like 3 times. I remember having to say, no, im just black......as if being other would be more favorable.
@@echoserenade My sister called the cops on me one time and I haven't talked to her since then. That's not something you do to people that you care about.
this seems odd to me. Is this not a rare occurrence even in america?
I appreciated this breakdown and loved the idea of "break contact." You sound like compassionate, intelligent officers I'd want in my community or to train officers who patrol in the Los Angeles area. Thank you. Too bad you weren't the ones responding to Sonya Massey's call. She probably wouldn't have made that "rebuke" comment.
I think the only thing you’re missing is upon first interaction how aggressive he was. I felt his aggression through the entire video. Thats why she said she rebuked him. She felt a demonic spirit in that man. Thats why that term is used.
Look at the size difference between her and the two officers, with so much protected gear on them and she had on night clothing. A woman knows to be scared when when two men with guns show up at her door when its dark. (Even when she calls them).
@@Infinty_Jug The Demon theory is interesting especially because he grow more adjetated everytime she mentions anything about religion. Never handed her the bible when she asked for it, would not touch it. Then when she rebuked him in the name of jesus he went nuts, said he would do exactly what he did. She was appologizeing and crouching, he closed the distance instead of backing out the door and did it. Exactly what he said for rebukeing him in the bame of Jesus. Thats evil man.
Exactly! Her DISCERNING SPIRIT WAS STRONG, AND CORRECT!!! Spiritual warfare is real. Ephesians 6:10-17! Read it and keep on that 6 piece suit! The Armor of God, in such a once upon a time called NOW!✨
I wish that they discussed the aggression this cop presented from the beginning. Calling her crazy behind her back. Telling he’s going to shoot her in the effing face. This guy was pissed off with her from the second she opened the door. In fact, she opened the door and said, please don’t hurt me. So he was giving off aggressive vibes and she picked up on it.
@@NOLAMikki The more she mentions the bible, jesus the more aggresive he gets. Refuses to touch the bible when she asks for it. Then when "Rebuked" Freaked out and sai what he was going to do then did it. Watch his arm for another skull while in prison.
Hard to believe you guys are trying to justify what this guy did, imagine if this was your mom or sister. He’s guilty on every level.
Look at that training cop's shirt.. He named his cop training business 'SAVAGE Training Group.'
The other one is saying how he tells his authoritarian cop buddies to 'be careful what you say on body cam.'
Absolutely disgusting.
That is... not what they did. Even the slightest little bit.
My mom never throw water at cop
They aren't trying to justify it. They clearly said the cop was in the wrong...
@@theeraphatsunthornwit6266why are you saying this?
These guys sound like they're giving advice on how to shoot someone without being charged with murder.
That's what it sounds like.
I agree they kept going on and on about how to avoid going to jail for shooting or misconduct. They really never broke the video down like they said they were going to do. It’s a shame
That part !!!
@MickG-n3xright 😂
Very important advice in America. If anyone could have a gun you gotta know
Thank you for restoring my faith in law enforcement, nice to hear good cops speak.
What no one seems to be discussing is HER level of fear before the officers even entered Sonya’s residence. Sonya verbally stated her fear of the officers once she opens her door, by asking them not to hurt her while still on her porch, to which he responds..why we would hurt you..you called us.
And they STILL invaded her home and space! After she clearly said "don't hurt me" and was confused, scared & vulnerable, on the porch.
He & his nitwit mute partner were so stupid
Or the fact that 911 called her back and she asked them to stay on the phone. 😢
Yep. He also made negative comments before she opened the door. Something about her putting her drugs up. Crazy (female dog word) after he walked out when the other officers were out side. Then it took for ever for him to even retrieve the med back
You're so right she senses that her life was in danger
@@kaiishalindsey173yeah like if she had to put her drugs up why would she call the cops herself? Pathetic. That poor lady did not deserve any of that.
He shouldn’t have been scared for his life by a pot of water that was at least 8 feet away from him. He could have moved back but he didn’t and she never advanced toward them in an aggressive way. He absolutely has horrible decision making skills.
Right, I mean he advanced on her, a reasonable person (armed with a gun), would have simply backed out of range of the hot water
No, shit!
She rebuked the devils because they tried to create a narrative that she was going to throw the water at them.
Probably more right than you know
Exactly and she wasn’t talking to the cop who shot her
This is what I said to my wife. Also maybe the prowler she thought was there was the eerie feeling that she would die that night. 😢
When a lie is heard, many black (Christian) women "rebuke...in Jesus name" or say "the devil is a liar"
Her spirit rebuked him because spiritually she knew what evil he was about to do.🙏
💛RIH Sonya Massey
Thank you hosts for honoring her life and her disability with this episode.
He skipped a key detail in the description. She didn't just rebuke him. She did it after he insulted her by insinuating she would throw it! It's a key detail because it shows his intent to escalate the situation!!
He already had it on his mind to use deadly force.
Yes. The "I rebuke you" comment was a joke, in my opinion! She was teasing him because he said he was afraid of the water, he backed up, and she thought it was silly that he was afraid of the water. He didn't get the joke, because he never saw "The Exorcist" (holy water) & doesn't know what "rebuke" means.
She never could've foreseen such an UNHINGED response! She was scared & confused by his inappropriate overreaction. Often, cops are trained to expect the worst-case scenario in every situation, and that makes them dangerous!
YOU'RE 100% RIGHT!
Excellent point!
I see a little premeditation in this case. Its like he wanted her to go to the kitchen and remove the pot so he can have a reason to shoot her
It’s that simple but people get lost in the weeds
It kinda looks like that
When he said, “I’ll shoot you in the mofo face!” And what did he do?
You look better than Meg The Stallion 😉
That's the underlying nag I can't seem to shake 😶
So pretty much multiple departments turned a blind eye until her murdered someone.
All those Departments should be held accountable for Negligent's !
Man the guy in the savage shirt is one smart guy. He really reminds me of my father. These guys have a great thing going on this podcast
Thank you. That's kind of you.
What was the threat to him when IN HER HOME he verbally told her that he was going to shoot her in the face, pulled his weapon and advanced on her?.....The moment he did this, by Illinois law, he stopped being a cop and became an armed home intruder, and by Illinois law castle doctrine she can now defend herself how ever she thinks is necessary. That is why he was charged as he was. It was a pathway to murder.
Grayson had her pinned down and was advancing on her position, like the good old days before he got fired from the Army for miss conduct.
At that point, even if she intentionally threw the pot at him it would have been her last desperate act of self-defense.
@@jerseyshoredroneservices225 It was either a last desperate act, or complying with getting it on the floor as he was shouting. He made sure we will never know her thoughts.
@@jerseyshoredroneservices225I never thought about it like that but you've opened my eyes. I never thought that he was justified but you really cleared this up.
@@Toni-cePlease tell me your being sarcastic.
@@Toni-ce
I'm not tracking.
That doesn't seem to make any sense in response to the comment I made.
He went there to kill. The water wasn't gonna burn the house down. The sooner he left the sooner she would've turned the water off. He escalated that into a killing.
They did not need ID or to enter her home to begin with.
exactly
Dude.. your generalization of the video is BS.. add the officers actual spoken words, and the fact that she complied by shutting OFF the stove and started dumping the boiling water down the drain, and then *set the pot down on the counter before she dropped to her knees* and you'll get more cred from your audience.
She said she rebuked him “in the name of Jesus” meaning she disapproved of his moving back after she picked up the water thinking she had evil intent to harm him with it. That is exactly what she meant. She was distancing herself from his negative thoughts of her intentions.
I completely agree! It's CRAZY how this is not brought to the forefront. She was rebuking the cop thinking that she could or would entertain such thinking!
Nope,she saw a demon.Thats
why she rebuked him.Simple!
Both and...
She was never going to throw that water at him. He has no idea what the rebuke means. He will have all the time in the world to look it up in jail. 😂
Exactly Correct!!
Dude was possessed. There’s no way he gets that mad after she says she rebuked him. All the problems this guy had, his history etc, dude was possessed
He Still is!
No one is gonna talk about when the other officers came how he went outside and said that Sonya was a crazy bitch. And how all the other police officers was quiet looking at him like he was crazy let’s talk about that. No one is talking about that part 😢. RIP Sonya
Exactly, and he was laughing. Straight demons
She was crazy he was right. Stop sugarcoating this shit
@@stevjohnsonpo I rebuke you in the name of Jesus.
@@Minoshka78 lmao
Right
I 1st came across this channel when you covered the Trump Assassination attempt.
You put that event into perspective and you've done so again with the Sonya Massey case.
Thank you for not just calling a criminal a criminal but for going into detail as to why the shooting was illegal and discussing methods to prevent incidents in the future.
I am a retired military police officer and agree with your entire assessment.
Thank you.
She wasn’t holding the pot, she was holding oven mitts in both hands and started cowering in fear, bad shoot.
She was holding the pot, she said she was going to pour it down the sink, then she rebukes him, then she drops with the pot, he shoots her, dropping the water on the floor. Poor lady, if she was in her right mind she would have just turned it off and left it...
Dont kill her because the law does not support what I'm gonna do..... what!! That's what's wrong with people. The reasoning is so scary. They are started off good, but the more they talk, I see how much it hurt their hearts to take Sonya's side. Damn!!!
There is a news station that slowed down and magnified and stopped the video periodically. She put the pot back on the stove. When he murdered her, she started crouching down, holding both oven mitts in front her face. So this POS spilled the pot while his friend went for the medical kit.
@@humbleisme2381 You have a couple of facts wrong. When she said I rebuke you she was not holding the pot she had it sitting on the sink. It did look like she was going to poor it down the sink and turned the cold water likely so it wouldn't be too hot for her pipes so she wasn't mentally gone. When Sean was yelling at her to drop the pot she wasn't holding a pot it was on the counter, she put her hands up and was just holding oven mits. She ducked down with no pot but now both deputies were yelling at her to drop the pot. At that point she popped up and grabbed the pot from the sink almost with one hand and dumped the water. They got her so nervous yelling at her to drop the pot that she wasn't holding, threatening to shoot her in the face that she popped up and grabbed it and dumped it to show Sean it's empty now.
@@humbleisme2381she still most likely got shot. When these police are out to get someone theres nothing you can do. There is so many people who call police and end up dead. To include tourist on vacation. Just google and do your research. My question is wherr is the good cops to stop the bad ones.
WHY IS EVERYONE SAYING SHE HAD A MENTAL PROBLEM! ARE YOU GUYS PAYING ATTENTION TO THE WAY THEY TALKING TO HER AND TREATING HER GET REAL WITH THE FACTS STOP MAKING EXCUSES FOR THESE KILLERS SHE DID EVERYTHING RIGHT! HOW CAN SHE BE CRAZY AND SHE DID EVERYTHING RIGHT!
It was known she had mental issues via her family but that POS was totally wrong & Miss Sonya did NOTHING wrong.
Word
She confirmed that she was taking medicine after they asked if she was mentally okay.
Clearly he has the demons 😈 and mental condition.
Her family said so. She went to the hospital the day before 😢
proof that rebuking a child of the devil can cost you your life.
she saw the demons in him
@@Mrs.-rq5kulol rebuking someone in the name of Jesus should've worked if it's that strong but look where she is now. Just 🛑
@@laniyalumpkin4907 Jesus said we would be killed by devils over his name u not a black Hebrew nor is he your God we wouldn't expect you to understand
@@laniyalumpkin4907 said said when Sonjya apologized, then in turn it camcelled the rebuke
We don't know what she was apologizing for.
I appreciate all 3 of these men for having the courage to address the need for accountability and training.
She was not actually holding the pot when he pulled the gun out. She had put the pot down and what was in her hand was an oven mitt.
But people swear she toss the water on him 😩.
She did, after he started advancing toward her while she was crouched down, she reached up and grabbed the pot. You can see the steam coming off the floor.
@@michelleisawesome1081go back and watch again. He murdered that woman she was not coming no where near that cop.
@@andreawhitlock2097 people will see what they want to see. I didn’t see any water tossed towards him. She apologized for rebuking him not for attempting to harm him. He made his way around that counter to get a clear headshot. He intended to kill her and succeeded.
The officer told her to turn the burning water off. He wanted to kill her that night. They invited there self in her home.
That "cop" has been a mess since his misconduct discharge from the military. He should've NEVER been excepted by any police department!
I AM 73 YEARS OLD AND NEVER IN MY LIFE HAVE I HEARD OF BOILING WATER STARTING A FIRE! HAVE YOU?
The whole agency is corrupted.
Cops have four complexes :
Superiority
Inferiority
Insecurity
Showboating
@@vicpetrishak7705 Don't forget gaslighting.
@@michaelmunro8147yep
Did you see the officers outside afterwards? That solidifies your point.
@@vicpetrishak7705😂😂😂
If that was any other race of woman that whole interaction would've been handled differently.
Factual!
It was a setup from the go premeditated murder it was a assassin move that all cops in the ( GRAY AREA ) USE!
Not if she was Holy and He is demonic the skull heads on his arm speaks clearly what type of Monster he is. When he hear Jesus the demon 😈 hated that
If the individual who got shot was the opposite race and gender he'd still be a free man.
Ya noone would care or make videos
IT'S NOT ABOUT TRAINING ,ITS THE CHARACTER OF THE PERSON AND JUST HAVING REGARD FOR ALL HUMAN LIFE ESPECIALLY AFRICAN AMERICAN...
If you were in my country, you would never say this. It's all about education. Here you need 4 yrs of education, 3 yrs at the police academy and one year training with an older police unit. If u pass, u can start search job. There will always be idiots in the police. But the police don't even have guns on themselves. That saying a lot. We have a huge respect for the law, and they give us respect back. What "Color your skin is, does not matter here.
@@Elin-LightWorker you are saying this to miss the Whole point ..your country is doing well then if you guys dont carry deadly weapons of guns ...but if you are watching every deadly police shooting is almost Always white cop killing a black person....no matter how much education you have if you are a bad spirit person with hatred in your heart ...no education will help you ...simple
@@Elin-LightWorkerwell you aren't here mam it's all about race here and people still don't believe it!!
@@Elin-LightWorker
You don’t understand they work for Satan they do this on purpose.
The Police and Military belong to Satan. He will call his Armies together for the battle of Armageddon.
Psalm 83
King James Version
83 Keep not thou silence, O God: hold not thy peace, and be not still, O God.
2 For, lo, thine enemies make a tumult: and they that hate thee have lifted up the head.
3 They have taken crafty counsel against thy people🧔🏾♂️👩🏾🦱, and consulted against thy hidden ones.
4 They have said, Come, and let us cut them🧔🏾♂️👩🏾🦱 off from being a nation; that the name of Israel may be no more in remembrance.
5 For they have consulted together with one consent: they are confederate🏳️ against thee:
6 The tabernacles of Edom👱🏻♂️, and the Ishmaelites👳🏽♂️; of Moab, and the Hagarenes;
7 Gebal, and Ammon, and Amalek; the Philistines with the inhabitants of Tyre;
8 Assur also is joined with them: they have holpen the children of Lot. Selah.
9 Do unto them as unto the Midianites; as to Sisera, as to Jabin, at the brook of Kison:
10 Which perished at Endor: they became as dung💩 for the earth.
11 Make their nobles like Oreb, and like Zeeb: yea, all their princes as Zebah, and as Zalmunna:
12 Who said, Let us take to ourselves the houses🤴🏾👸🏾 of God in possession.
13 O my God, make them like a wheel; as the stubble before the wind.
14 As the fire burneth a wood, and as the flame setteth the mountains on fire;
15 So persecute them with thy tempest, and make them afraid with thy storm🌪🌊⛈.
16 Fill their faces with shame😩; that they may seek thy name, O Lord.
17 Let them be confounded and troubled for ever; yea, let them be put to shame, and perish💀:
18 That men may know that thou, whose name alone is Jehovah, art the most high over all the earth🗺.
Luke 21:24
King James Bible
And they🤴🏾👸🏾 shall fall by the edge of the sword🗡, and shall be led away captive🧑🏾🌾👩🏾🌾 into all nations: and Jerusalem🌍 shall be trodden down of the Gentiles👨🏻👩🏻, until the times⌚️of the Gentiles👨🏻👩🏻 be fulfilled.
Revelation 2:9
King James Version
9 I know thy🧔🏾♂️👩🏾🦱 works, and tribulation, and poverty🏚, (but thou art rich🏦) and I know the blasphemy of them👩🏻👨🏻 which say they are Jews🧔🏾♂️👩🏾🦱, and are not, but are the synagogue🕍 of Satan👿.
Revelation 3:9
King James Version
9 Behold, I will make them👩🏻👨🏻 of the synagogue🕍 of Satan👿, which say they are Jews🧔🏾♂️👩🏾🦱, and are not, but do lie🤥; behold, I will make them👨🏻👩🏻 to come and worship🙇🏻🙇🏻♀️ before thy feet 🦶🏾 , and to know that I have loved❤️ thee🧔🏾♂️👩🏾🦱.
Amos 5:26
King James Bible
But ye have borne the tabernacle of your Moloch and Chiun your images, the star 🇮🇱 of your god, which ye made to yourselves.
High class discussion with well informed policemen, I wish that all lessons are learned and implemented ,
One thing I would like to know is why this cop didn’t have his camera on when the incident happened.?
His plan played out like he imagined. Also he tried to block the 2nd officers camera view of the shooting…stepped in front of him, but 2nd officers camera still picked up on the murder
@@rosebrady9125exactly what his plan was!!
@@rosebrady9125he was so calm and he was ready to get away with killing the lady! I bet that's not the only reason he's killed before!! With those sculls on his arm!!
That's because he planned on murdering Sonya Massey. He's probably a white supremacist, a Nazi.
@@janicediaz7921 because he wanted his version of the story to be heard, not the truth
I have White friend and we back and forth on these issues. He called me about this and said Dave this dude is just plain wrong! I think a lot of this man because he has honor and says what he really thinks not what people want to hear! He said why go in the house at all? I watched it again and I agree!
He thought she was vulnerable and alone to come in to do just what he did.
I don’t have white friends that have to go back and forth with about racism…. Fortunately I live in the Bay Area California and white folks out here are more aware and conscious of black struggles…. We still have our level discrimination but it’s better than any other place in the country…
He went in because I bet there is a history of this guy trying to ramp up every situation he gets in into a shooting. He wanted to kill someone in the line of duty more than anything.
This cop preyed on someone who was so vulnerable. She called in thinking someone was lurking around her home and wanted to feel safe. And the way they were sarcastically laughing at her too
To do cop work as thing are fishy and worth investigation. To confirm her safety too....
No one can ever make me believe she was gonna throw anything at those cops. She was so scared and terrified. I TRULY believe she was trying to follow his orders. He kept telling her to drop it when she didn't have it. In a panic she reached for it to possibly put it DOWN on the floor. The hot water, no doubt, splashed on her and she launched it away from herself. The pot didn't go UP, it went out at her chest level. This all happened in 5 SECONDS. She was rebuking him thinking she'd throw it. Not threatening him. And words caused him to freak out and pull his gun? How about just walk out the door?
Very good comment. Thank you.
@@fishwanda Exactly! This is such a sad situation that could have easily been prevented.
And with all that said she even says "Im sorry" after he yells at her to put the pot down. So sad.
@@samsneadd heart breaking
What should I think of cops if this is what they think
48 minutes of copsplaing when the simple answer is cops, officials, and politicians don't give a damn about anyone except themselves.
thanks for saving me the time. Officer Dominic Izzo gave a very detailed analysis of this fuck up, and why this pig needs to go away for a very very long time.
BLACK MEN !!! WE NEED TO LOVE AND PROTECT OUR SISTA'S..AND SISTA'S STOP TELLING US YOU DON'T NEED US.. WE NEED EACH OTHER 😮
Why ! Why should we protect these so-called "sistas"? These "sistas" don't give a damn about Black men. "I don't need no Man!" GOOD! Because we don't NEED you.
I understand what you're saying, but love and protection and peace wouldn't have helped Ms. Massey. Her death has nothing to do with relationships.
I appreciate you. This makes me cry to read this. I feel this way daily.
@@tia9966her death is from a lack of accountability for LEOs and a culture of hostility, intimidation and not respecting civilians. I’m not sure she’s going to get enough attention in the media to exert any political pressure to the outcome of the trail.
stop with the race bs..
The silence and the stare from the officers outside Massey’s home after the shooting spoke volumes. They knew he was shady!
No video I watch is putting the fact that she was apologizing when he shot her. She apologized twice for the comment. All while it was just a silly joke. She had all rights to rebuke him
No she wasn't. She was faking it and was tossing boiling water at him when he shot her.
Yep; She wasn’t even meaning anything by that sh*t. It was just banter.
@@markk2745what you see I need your glasses please
Exactly, how you throw hot water while ducking and saying am sorry.
@@markk2745you must have seen the fake, butno she never threw water at him.... even if she did, all he had to do is step back...
In order for this cop to have applied ANY of the thinking you guys discussed today he would have had to see Sonya as a human being to begin with, which he very clearly did not. His hulking shadow on the wall of her house as he approaches the front door is haunting, man is a ghoul and she felt that.
As a former deputy, I have a question. You being a supervisor, how much wrong (the grey area as you called it) before you step up and do something about, or if they are just a fellow officer and not a subordinate, when do you step up and do something?
I went against my FTO that forced a young lady to do something she didn't want to do, to get out of a ticket. I really paid for it by being ignored by the other guys in my department. That's until what happened came out, and then those who hung me out to dry decided to let me back in. Ain't that blue line something? Would I do it again? You god damn right that I would!! Right is right, and wrong is wrong. There's no grey areas.
You become black balled ask me how I know... if you go against the good old boys you become the goat
@@tree-treesalabamaoutdoorsa4502 yeah I paid the price for a few months. The good ole boys did hang me out by my short and curlys. But by that time I had started hanging with the black and brown deputy's. Our department was about 60/40 in that aspect.
But I stood up in roll call one day and called them out for them backing him up. Several of them had daughters the same age as the girl that he had assaulted. They just dropped their head and said nothing. Over the next few weeks they would approach me and apologize for what they did. But I accepted their apologies, even though it could have potentially gotten me killed. And it was all over this no matter what, we got your back mentality, and screw the guy that believes in doing it the right way.
Right is right, and wrong is wrong. But if you wear a badge and do wrong it's even worse. It gives every officer a black eye. It's hard enough out there. It's even worse when the trust is eroded by some power tripping idiot with a badge and gun.