Rhett & Link on Racism & The Church | Doug Wilson
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- Опубліковано 12 січ 2022
- In this episode of Doug Reacts, Pastor Doug Wilson responds to comments from Rhett & Link about racism in the church.
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These guys are sooooo cringe with their white guilt I almost disliked the video till I remembered Doug was criticizing them….🤮
Yeah why bother growing a conscience about slavery when god has objective truth and morality?
Oh right because god forgot that part in his infinite objective morality he imparts on you. Guess his morality isn’t very objective at all. Turns out it’s man made. And subjective, since you have to “grow a conscience”.
Under your belief system, there is no growing a conscience. Yet this is your explanation. SILLY.
"Professing to be wise, they became fools..." It's all in Paul. Whatever were they teaching to these young men in school?"
I like the Lewis reference!
Right on
As a young "black person", I understand one thing about the church.
It gets MESSY.
The WORD reveals the error though ...
So to have a breakaway from the church is to abandon the Living Word...
Christ Jesus.
You cannot be the bride without the groom, and I haven't been neither have I met a perfect Christian yet, or a perfect assembly that does everything right.
I pray they get right before God;
I wouldn't want to be that poor unfortunate soul whom Christ crushes for speaking evil of His bride....
Right? It's not like CHRISTIANITY is responsible... Even if there was this huge amount of racism in the churches they went to, that's a problem with the Christians there that needs to be worked out. It's not like there's a Bible verse that commands us to be racists. The fact that they seem to be blaming Christianity for the racism they've seen(apparently, they didn't give any examples lol) just boggles my mind.
@@amgames5638 I'm SAYING!
Do they ever reveal the “racist” beliefs that test identifies? I agree I’ve been noticing an uptick in public racism the past few years, and it’s those who continually label, define and even segregate people solely by the color of their skin.
I posted a comment on this but you can find the contents on the channel "The Church Split" the video is titled "Rhett's spiritual deconstruction becomes racist" the time stamp is 30:35 on that video but I would recommend watching prior to that because those guys go into the man's credentials who carried out that quiz.
@@moriartythethird5709 Thank you. I'll check it out.
Man. Those questions-at least the ones highlighted- were even worse than I envisioned 😬 Some people really don’t know how to think anymore, do they? To hear those questions and then take any results of that test seriously? Good grief.
Meantime, The Daily Mail attacks Slavs. ua-cam.com/video/yRrImiWtVsE/v-deo.html
@@megofiachra3247 Well just like you I was interested in the validity of the test and my questions were answered when I watched that video. Not sure if you watched prior to the time stamp but the guy who conducted the test had published a book prior and it was titled something egregious like racist church or something like that. It really shows the man is keen on pushing an agenda.
I’m glad you do this. Rhett and Link literally make me want to tear my hair out of my skull
I know the feeling, Hannah!
I used to watch them with my brother 10 years ago (amazing how time flies, the Lord's return may very well seem like the twinkling of an eye) when they were Christian, and they never talked this way. It is very disheartening, but don't despair, pray for them and stay in the peace of Christ, which passes all human understanding. God bless you.
I agree. Feel the same, hearing weak arguments just feels lazy on their part.
Me too.. And Im bald. Thats how you know its bad.
It kinda makes sense for them to feel the way they do. Nowhere in their deconstruction testimonies do they say they were ever Christians because they understood the gospel and felt they needed a savior for their sins. They still acknowledge they do/did wrong things, even in this clip, which is weird. But failing to acknowledge your own need for a savior would automatically put yourself in a position of moral superiority above those you now view as your enemy.
"Except that he's still white."
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I love how they kept throwing around "my personal experience" but failed to elaborate on what they actually experienced. I also like how their response to everything is pretty much "That's not true" without elaborating any further
All they need to do is stop being racist and stop blaming everyone else that has similar appearance.
Exactly... And they somehow blamed Christianity for this, when, if there WAS a lot of racism in the church, how is that Christianity's fault? That's the individual racists who aren't living their lives as Christ ordered them to, they need to repent, it's not a flaw in Christianity... Again, if there WAS a lot of racism in the church, which, from my experience, there isn't lol
What a couple of fruits... I'm guessing they grew up as United Methodists.
Race baiting is big business.
Everyone who disagrees with us is racist…. When we define racism as disagreeing with us.
I wonder if Link ever would have abandoned his faith if Rhett hadn’t.
If Link's faith rested on what Rhett said & did, then it raises questions about the nature of Link's faith.
@@AnHebrewChild Absolutely.
I love how Rhett's earnest tone suggests that he truly believes he's expressing profound insights when he doesn't even realize he drank the Kool-Aid.
Aw, Rhett and Link. So enlightened and woke since moving to California. I'm sure their parents are proud.
Dear lady, if their parents are believers, they are in deep grief. This is nothing to make light of; it's gut-wrenching to see your children reject the Truth.
@@jreese8284 That wasn't a jab at their parents.
@@jreese8284 She was being sarcastic buddy. God bless
they are totally a gay couple. real men dont talk like that or have gay voices like that
@@hairypawter8475 you're absurd . Not that I like their nonsensical stuff but they're not gay man....like what are you talking about even?
Rhett and Link never grew up. Once out of college they just chilled with each other and were profoundly blessed by becoming YT stars where their rambling skits found an audience. Despite such development they have never been great thought leaders, yet because of their following they think themselves wise. In that arrogance they love to parade around thinking themselves great minds and cracking open earth shattering things when the reality is sad as their lack of comprehension of topics is obvious.
MOAB'd them 👍
Nailed it
I feel sorry for these guys. I used to have the same outlook as them, but Christ had mercy on a wretch like me.
"I wonder if he feels it in his heart" lol
Christ has no mercy.
There is such a stark contrast between what Rhett and Link are saying and what Pastor Wilson is saying. R&L are following the wave of culture and confirming the all-powerful data by way of their experience because nothing trumps that which is personal. It is not thoughtful in any sense. When Link finally speaks it is just a word salad filled with the talking points of the day.
Pastor Wilson, on the contrary, is actually saying something interesting, thoughtful, and worth considering. It's clear that he appeals to a higher authority than that of the experience.
Rhett and Link left the church?!…..I have a suspicion they were never truly part of it.
I'm guessing they may have been duped by easy believism
Bingo.
Uhhhh... I see the word racism, and I roll my eyes. I hope most of you realize what a serious issue this is going to be. Doug's right, it will be mandatory at some point to prove that you aren't a "racist", or you will be punished.... The problem is, is that "racism" has no clear definition. It has been used to describe hate towards another race, but it has ALSO been used against people that try to show that people are just DIFFERENT. Race is a REAL phenomenon, and I refuse to bow down and pretend that race doesn't exist. We are NOT all the same. Individuals are different from other individuals, and groups are different from other groups. We do not have to tie in hate at all. We can acknowledge each others differences without hate, it's perfectly fine, but make no mistake - race is real, and races are different. This regressive society is sooo annoying, AHHHHH!!!!
Newsflash nothing suffices, you can have two boys one who married a Nubian Princess and another a Puerto Rican firebrand, and brown grandbabies🤔but be called racist because how you sing gospel is cultural appropriation 🙄
Only racists feel that way ironically.
Ethnic differences exist, and people groups exist; but races? There's one race, the human race; we are all of one blood, according to the Creator, and He can be trusted.
Yeah there are actual racist who hate black people. You can just roll your eyes, for black people, who you probably don’t care about, racism is very real.
You cut to the heart of the matter. Atheists want to have their proverbial cake and eat it too. They want God's goodness, and morals, and ethics, and joy without God.
I do not want gods goodness morals and ethics. Man did a better job creating those than god ever has.
@@DM-dk7js So you disagree with you shall not murder? Love your neighbor as yourself?
Rhett and link waited until 2021/2 to make these videos.....hmmm I wonder why.
“They are more likely to agree with this statement”
Well is the statement true? Do you know something they didn’t know? Could they know something you don’t know?
I also find it interesting how the “data” he pulls up shows what statements people agree with, but there is data underneath that which could either confirm the statements or prove them wrong, but they wouldn’t dare take the data that far…
Love you Uncle and brother! Thank you for your constant hard work.
In Christ, from Australia, your brother, Todd
Yeah, same here, from South Africa
For those of you who are curious about the, are you a racist cosmopolitan quiz. A channel called "The Church Split" did a video to this Rhett and Link video about 9 months ago. When I have time I'll try to find the exact time and give a time stamp for that video. I would say the results were shocking if I wasn't the least bit surprised by them.
Edit: The video is called "Rhett's spiritual deconstruction becomes racist" the time stamp is 30:35 though they mention the guy who did this quiz earlier than that and show you the extreme bias he holds. I recommend watching that portion.
found it. Thank you.
Always straight to the heart: If you reject God, why is racism even bad and why should I care?
Do we really need a god to care about racism?
@@stefanbladh5439 if there is no God, then the universe would only be material, meaning that us humans are simply a collection of atoms. How can atoms care about anything?
@@stefanbladh5439 no we don't, but other people also don't have to care if you care or don't. It's all just preferences in the end. Maybe racism benefits some people? Who is to say they're wrong in that case? Self-interest is just as valid a position as any other.
I reject god. And racism is bad. Because it’s discrimination and discrimination is bad.
No god required to oppose racism.
@Randall Moore hold on.
I reject god. And I can still absolutely condemn racism. The original commenters claim is false. I am proof of this.
The notion that without a god you can’t condemn racism is absurd.
Who gets to define racism? These people should read history and see what real racism looks like. Good for Doug for largely refusing to deal with the details of their argument when they disqualify themselves from the beginning for not accepting the existence of God, and thus truth, reason or justice
The stuff Rhett and Link are spreading is so toxic. I used to watch them and thought they were light-hearted guys, but man as the social justice movement replaced Christianity as their religion. Wonder how this has impacted their relationships with their Christian family and friends. I sure wouldn't want associate with them, or I'd want to try to address this issue if I did.
A Christian should not want to distance themselves, for Rhett and Link are the mission field. We are to be at peace, as long as it’s dependent on us. Yes, we are not to be unequally yoked with them, but our relationship with unbelievers is to show and preach Christ to them.
@@ronaldmaday and that is true Christian love, to love someone away from hell enough that we put up with them and reach out to them, even if they are very vile. For example, I have been thinking a lot of Dawkins lately and praying for him (not that that is especially difficult, as I don't know the man personally or have to live with him and his atheist claptrap, but you get the idea).
I think he’ll also find Sunday mornings in Kenya and Uganda very segregated, also! 😂
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"A lie gets halfway around the world while the truth is just getting it's shoes on" - Mark Twain
If only they would invite you on to their show. Rhett would lose his marbles to the sound of "how do you know what truth is?" Its painful clear they have never attempted to address their epistemology.
Because that is a false start to a conversation. They have defined “truth” just in a different way than you. Your dismissal of their answer does not justify yours.
This guy literally wrote a book called "Evangellyfish." He despises Evangelicals. But now when someone points out racism in the Evangelical church, all of a sudden he flies to their defense. Pretty ironic that he would call anyone a "jellyfish."
Yes, and he reads Asterix comics, and sometimes he sits on the couch and just ... thinks
Doug IS an evangelical… “evangellyfish is a term for spineless “Christians” who are oh so prevalent nowadays.
Could anyone send Rhett and Link a copy of "Logical Fallacies"? They are violating about 8 of them off the top of my head.
I can't believe good mythical morning posted this.. God have mercy on them.
Racist, racist, racist… agree Doug that they’ve abandoned the presuppositions necessary to even condemn racism. But, even if you grant them the moral ground to condemn it, they fail to define it. So frustrating.
Thank you for your good work.
Upgrading me while still clinging to the trunk!! I love it.
Those two...pray for them.
Remember when Rhett and Link were 2 fun and talented best friends making hilarious songs and funny skits?
I think the American church definitely could’ve been more involved in the abolition of slavery. Wilberforce was in Britain. The church as a whole was mostly silent on the matter in America. Also, in the west, Jim Crow was exclusive to America. I don’t agree the American church is racist now but I do believe there are too many invertebrate leaders.
The church was not silent in the abolitionist movement. I spent some time learning about my lineage of my white familial side. There were pastors very involved in the underground railroad movement. One of the houses with the basement that had hidden rooms is still a tourist destination in Ohio. I spent time in Boston and toured underground railroad sites, many supported by the church. Lots of history yet to learn!
I have a very difficult time understanding how someone can lump ALL slavery into the category of racism when clearly that is not the case.
because anti-black racism in modern times has been the mechanism for justifying it.
I'm black and I'm SOOOOOO sick and tired of people like Rhett and Link having this white savior complex speaking up for us little ol' blacks who don't know any better.
@The Sight of Sound lost me at "America has collapsed".
It's the same old Great White Burden but instead of Christenizing the Savages, it's Progressivising the Deplorables. And I'm a self-hating race/gender traitor if I don't bend the knee to their nonsense.
I'm white, but I'd imagine the pandering comes off more pompous. The superiority they exhume when they attempt to virtue signal, is probably worse. I was brought up to treat everyone the same. It's seems white liberals are trying to reverse that, mostly to fuel their narcissism.
My heart sank when the darker-haired one mentioned that he has kids. May God help and save the kids of those lost men, because they're leading them down a terrible, terrible path by example.
How ridiculous of you lol
@@DM-dk7js Fr dude, both Rhett and Link are great fathers and husbands, people just speak bad about anyone without knowing them smh
Amen
I used to watch these guys. I'm SO glad that I stopped watching them, and started watching, "The Dividing Line", "Grace to You", "Reformedwiki2.0", and Doug. It's so sad to see this woke nonsense infecting their minds like this. I wonder if their parents are proud of them for being so "stunning and brave"?
Thank you so much for biblically highlighting the many fallacies of these modern worldly narratives that most church "leaders" are sadly too cowardly to confront. Years ago I used to enjoy some of the Rhett and Link content for its clean fun and humorous 'escapism.' It is so sad to see them get swept away in deception in order to maintain their status in the world's system.
As they say “numbers don’t lie” but they sure can be manipulated to help men lie.
If they were really sorry, wouldn’t they want to give up their platforms to black people? Hire a third person who’s black?
Isn't a racism test by definition racist? Guys like this seek holiness by setting themselves above blame accusing others rather than true repentance, humility, sacrifice and surrender to their creator.
Greetings from Northern Finland! I can attest to the fact that it's pretty segregated up here.
Criminalizing hate speech is concurrently criminalizing love speech. Thought itself IS discrimination.
Baaahahhahahahaa!! WHAT IS THIS?!!! I feel like Rhett and Link are two seconds away from Remnant Radio guys. 😂 it’s all gobbledygook word salad.
This guys having an audience is a sign of the times. I pray that the Evangel/Gospel touches the heart of this men and their audience. Yet, may God's will be done, not mine. Amen. 🙏
God only cares about the color of your heart 🖤-or-❤️... It's not about the skin, but what lies within...
May the Lord return soon! Amen. God is merciful. He always forgives. Never be ashamed to take your failures to him. He is for you, not against you! God is with you in the storm. He knows your troubles, he hears you! He is for you, on your side, always! It may feel silent at times, but he’s holding you close! May the Lord return soon! We are drawing closer. He is coming! Believe and trust in the Lord, you will be saved. Period. May the Lord bless you all! Hang in there family. Stay strong. It is not easy following the Lord. We are scoffed at. We give up our earthly dreams, our fleshly desires. What the enemy offers is short lived, but heaven is forever! Life may seem or be unfair, but God is with you! Always remember that. Things may get better or worse for you, but a kingdom awaits you! Finish the race! Repent daily and carry your cross. This world is fading fast. Your troubles are temporary! New channel here, I’d appreciate any kind of support. Don’t give up! God loves you so much! So do I. The Lord bless you!!
You should check out more of Wilson's stuff. Thy Kingdom come.
These two demonstrate Philosophical conceit of the highest order. 🤦🏻♂️. LORD thank you for steering me in the direction of Truth, in the direction of Christ Jesus, the way the truth and the life. Continue to bestow wisdom on your children who ask you for it and discernment. Protect us from the lies of modern secular society. Continue to bring fruit from Doug’s ministry and may you get all the glory. 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
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Oh good, he is teaching this to children, ! Great!
Wait till Rhett and Link hear about conservative black evangelicals.
R&L: “Conservative Black evangelicals aren’t Black. QED.”
Son of subtlety thou art. He does not resist thee. Outside are dogs.......
They grew up next door to a Baptist College in NC.
You are a greater man than I Doug. I can barely listen to this stuff even when your commentary provides intermittent breaks.
Could you do a podcast with Thomas Sowell?
If you asked Rhett and Link's audience questions such as, "Are whites inherently racist?" and "Can non-whites be racist?" they'd have a much higher percentage of racists in their audience than what that study showed.
Wait before I watch I gotta get some whiskey. Take a drink every time Rhett says “white evangelical”.
Hahaha it was practically the first words he said!
Regardless of one’s nationality and corresponding understanding of evangelicalism, there are many compelling reasons to disassociate oneself from denominationalism and establishment rhetoric in pursuit of the true Church.
This CRT BS is not one of them.
Hey Doug, you should definitely do videos on George Carlins take on the 10 Commandments and Christopher Hitchens Vanity Fair video on that too. Keep them coming!
Wow, I love the unbiased and accurate accumulation of the “data.” 🤢
Watching them slander the former brothers and sisters in Christ makes me sad. They must still have friends who still attend and worship in the church, friends who these famous people have call them liars and racists.
“Christians are 20 percentage points smarter than me” -Rhett
God have mercy
Besides not being Christians, Rhett and Link are objectively psychotic.
I think it’s important to define terms when we talk about racism
Are we talking about the classical definition of racism which is stereotypes, dislike,prejudice or discrimination based on race or a belief that ones skin color is a determining factor of there character
Or are we using the post-modernist neo-Marxist definition of racism in which anything and everything is considered racism by application of critical theory except racism which falls under the previous category when it is committed against white people
Racism of the former category is practically non-existent as a force within the church although racism within individuals and specific church groups is still real however under the latter category the entire church itself is considered racist and will be until we stop submitting to Christ and start following the libration gospel of activist like Ibram Kendy this course of action is obviously not acceptable for biblical Christians and so must be dealt with in the same manner we deal with accusations of “homophobia” and “heteronormativity” which is to kindly tell these people we don’t care please leave us alone
This is not to say that the church couldn’t do better at racial unity and church congregations are often self-segregating but this is more the result of past racism in history and not the result of active prejudice in the current era
I dont get the criticism of the church's so-called racial segregation. People go to church where they feel comfortable, usually that's with people who look like them or who worship in a style they're used to. There are no signs telling people where to go. It's their choice.
The word "racist" has for a long time been the single most effective fear-word in the leftist and neoconservative arsenal. For decades, they have successfully used it in the political arena to slander traditionalists, shut down debate, and leave opponents running for cover. In the social arena, they have caused even more damage by using it to brainwash impressionable children and young college students, and to teach white people to hate their nation, their cultural traditions, and worst of all, themselves.
I wouldn't let those two watch my puppy. They're emotions would get in the way of my dog trying to take a piss.
I used to have an arrogant attitude jut like Rhett , but then I realized, That I was not called to be a teacher. No one int any of these churches cared about what I believe, and I don;t want them teaching me either. This is why we have Elders , deacons , pastors, to be responsible. These content creators of puffed up sometimes.
I think their problem is they went to some place called "the white church", I've never seen one, I've only seen the Church
I’ve dealt with a lot of racism with white Christian’s. But they get so mad when you mention it, and then they start saying racist things. Not very “Christian” but they aren’t walking with Christ
Touche`
I'm not Evangelical, but here's a question for you?
In the movie The Family Man, a child asks Nicolas Cage's character, "Do you like kids?"
He answers, "On a case-by-case basis."
Why is good that white Evangelicals have a warm feeling toward black people?
I tend to reserve my warm feelings for individuals I know, those I feel have earned it.
This changes if you believe, against 10 seconds' twitter research, that black people are a homogenous bloc, that we are what the National Socialists called volk, and their spiritual descendants call folx.
They have nearly 5 million subscribers. Their evangelization for agnosticism and atheism is being pretty successful. The older l get the more I come to see more clearly the few who find it passage.
This is pure madness poor kids
That was painful to watch. Link doesn’t look as sure he agrees with this course they are taking. Rhett is a civil engineer, and Link is an industrial engineer by education, so the tilt in logic they are forcing themselves into must be painful for them as well. I know it’s too much to hope that they break whatever contract agreement they’ve made to humiliate themselves by denouncing Christianity, and bilging out this narrative, and go home, but I can always hope.
The Reign of Terror in France shows what can be achieved when instituting morality on something other than Jesus.
Well fellas since truth is all based on experience, in my experience, I experienced the exact opposite.
A few disagreements here:
1. We developed a conscience about slavery because of how bad American Slavery became compared to other forms of the past & because it was concentrated in the section of the country that seceded causing a Civil War
2. We ended slavery because the wage labor system was making more money and proving more successful
Lincoln said “both sides read from the same Bible, both invoked His aid against the other, it may seem strange that someone would ask God’s assistance in wringing their bread from the sweat of other mens’ faces but let us judge not that we be not judged”
It is really easy to stand on the bank of the river and see that a fish is wet. Much harder to be a fish in the river and to know you are wet.
but is the water wet?
@@SymayRhodes Wet is something water makes
Water does not make itself
Water is not wet
@@SymayRhodes Yes.
Who are these geniuses?
I’d probably have to drown myself in a toilet bowl if I was ever this self-righteous
Lol, let them feel guilty haha! My guilt has been taken away by the blood of Christ the Redeemer! By grace my Lord opened my eyes for me to realize my real guilt, unlike what "social justice" is making up to distract us all from a real guilt of our hostility toward our God! All glory be to Him forever and ever!
Never heard of Rhett and Link before now. Will not hear of them again I presume.
Oh yawn. “Education without values, as useful as it is, seems rather to make man a more clever devil” C S Lewis.
Well, that was painful to sit through. I’m dumber now.
As much as I like this, I would really enjoy a more thorough analysis dissecting the arguments - though that may be more of a William Craig or Frank Turek thing.
Purity tests. What a great idea!
wow these guys are lost, I'd love to meet these guys so I can tell them to hand me their wallets because slavery, structural injustice and police
Got em
Ugh
And our local Christian school is going to add ‘curriculum’ so their students pass the racist testing well.
This is all so compromising. Yet, in God’s mercy, revealing.
Danya
I kind of already have an answer to this but how would u respond to people who say “evolution has passed down morality from generation to generation so that’s how we know about it?” Or “humans created morality which makes it objective. Just like how humans created cars and the fact that it is a car is an objective fact?”
0:24 Doug said, "Except that he's still white." This isn't interesting statement because it makes me want to ask Doug is white a real thing or a category of the mind?
2:40 Doug ascribes the condition of the black community as the fault of London B Johnson's War On Poverty.
3:30 some guy created a racism index in which white evangelical Christians present as the most racist of all groups. As someone who has lived in the evangelical Christian world for decades, I have no idea what this index is referring to, because race was never brought up as a subject at all.
7:55 "as white guys." So, these two guys in this video accept the classification of being white.
8:10 Doug likes to think of himself as "colorblind". It may be surprising to many white evangelicals that the majority of black Christian evangelicals are offended when white people say they are colorblind. It is a fact that black Christian evangelicals have a black racial identity. And that most blacks who think of themselves as conservative still vote for the Democratic Party.
The creepy lip twitch is such an obvious tell that this hit too close to home. What church developed a conscience in America Doug? What do you think of that church now?
Has Rhett been partaking of something causing his lisp? I don’t recall that a decade ago when I watched them for a season
Who let the dogs/ out. I liked theat song a lot!
They should really read ‘Dominion’ by Tom Holland.