Dude I've watched every single one of your videos since the Fuji days. Just love the conent. Also, Sony missed a chance to get a trio of the A7C cameras. They should've given us a A7Cs option as well. ZVE1 is unfortunately not for everyone.
I find that in many situations the amount of noise on FX3 between 3200 and 12800 is quite comparable, but with more chances of banding in shadows at 3200. So if the scene is more or less evenly exposed or without large dark areas I just use up to 3200 ISO. I also find FX3 + 16-35 f4 PZ combo very comfortable to use, because you can zoom in and out and operate the whole camera with just one hand. It's especially handy on hiking trips or when you're just running around the city where your other hand might be holding something else. It saves so much time to just press the shutter button to wake from sleep and then change the focal length with the zoom rocker and take the shot.
If the difference in price is not the issue then FX3 is much more logical choice than ZV-E1 based on the dual card slots alone. Some people say it's fine, but memory cards fail and I would never use a camera without dual card slots even for my personal projects. But for general day to day use it's okay and the chance that the card is going to fail on you is pretty low. Other than that you also get a fan and it gives you freedom to never think about overheating. I've shot 4k 60 fps numerous times under the sun in 96-98 degree weather and I didn't even get the overheating warning. Also ZV-E1 only has an electronic shutter which is a no go for flash photography or capturing anything dynamic. The size difference is pretty negligible because they both lack a viewfinder at the top of the camera which is the most bothersome part. I can fit the FX3 in my autumn or winter coat pocket without issues, but sometimes you just want an even smaller camera, and when I see someone walking by with a Fuji I get jealous. @@MODESTYXO205
I think the fact that this can do basically everything the A7IV can do eg. professional photo AND professional video, but also be a really fun personal camera with a small prime lens makes it an absolute winner in my books. It’s almost like owning an X100V and a workhorse camera in one. The only real negative for me personally is the lack of dual SD card slots for the peace of mind for client work.
Best review yet..really like the points you made.. will be selling my a7 IV for this.. the compact size n style makes it a more attractive package for travel/lifestyle
So I am thinking of the 7cii and the a7iv but for professional work do you agree that the a7iv is the one to get becasue of the dual camera slot right? and I can maybe get a Fujifilm x100v for personal everyday stuff
love the vibe your videos have. Thats something special! Not just sitting in front of a clean youtuber desk with tons of light and doing the whole video from it.
FINALLY, someone that also looks at the positive side of one card slot! Small/lightweight camera that is ideal for travel. Why would I want to carry a card reader? Thank you! I'm loving the 7CM2 so far, wish the grip would have launched with the camera.
Yeah I don’t get why people are crying about card slots when there’s a million other options in Sonys line with 2 card slots lol. Like if you don’t like it.. but the next one up 😂 idk why that’s so hard for people to comprehend. We’re getting a pro sensor in this more consumer friendly body.. they missin the point I guess to OPTIONS haha
@@cammackey Thank you! i understand having that piece of mind... but honestly cards are so reliable nowadays. I haven't had any card issue using my og A7c. it's always straight to the pc when its time to unload
hello from france man, I dont often post comments but your content and the vibe you give off is amazing. peace. I also got the A7CII with the tamy 20-40, best versatile setup I finally achieve to get which give me 100% satisfaction. And I get many sony cameras and differents lenses, it just replaces the sigma 16-28 I really liked too but here the 40mm give me a very nice B-roll and stab footage with the active stab only.
Really wish SONY used the 4 axis screen of Sony A7RV for ANY hybrid camera. For photos I HATE the swivel out screen only design, for street photo speacially it really is a regression/drag, when you want to be less intimidating, maintain low profile. Smaller cam/frame as these compact full-frames from Sony (A7C/A7CII/A7CR) in theory are less intimidating cameras for street photography but this gets nullified if you like the type of low angle, shoot from the hip because you have to swivel OUT and to the SIDE.
Selling my overpriced xh2 with xf 16-55mm for this, auto focus was terrible on the xh2 and wasn't impressed by it's image quality, looking forward to going back to sony.
Love the video, really useful and great to hear your thoughts !! I had been wondering about this vs zv-e1 and loved seeing the noise reduced footage you got out of it. Also love that “cry babies” section at the end too 👏
If that overheats indoors, Just imagine how it will outdoors, My A7IV over heats quite often and not even in really hot hot weather. Must have a bad copy bc I have tried all the tricks and it overheats at least once a day in Mid warm weather. Somewhere like Florida it would probably catch on fire with in 20 minutes... Albeit I shoot 60p 4K almost 90% of the time..
Easily the best review so far of this camera given your sanity on use cases. Ideally I would get an FX3 as a third cam for my video podcast studio (have FX6/A7S3) but as you say it’s twice the price so leaning towards this plus the fan if needed although I’m filming 15 mins at a time in UK so thinking I’m ok! ZV E1 would be pushing it though 😂
Hey 👋 Why did you choose the black version of the camera if you’re a fan of retro-style cameras? Wouldn’t the silver version be more fitting for that? 🤠
@@cammackey I ordered the camera in silver and black, but I must admit, the black one has a stealthy elegance that I absolutely prefer. The silver option shall find its way back from whence it came.
Cam! Lovely video! My favorite SOOC image is canon but I like the size of Sony bodies! And in body LUT for my travel video. Fuji AF is out for me. Do you recommend this camera over the r8, zve1?
Damn your videos are really helpful. Im currently shooting with a Fuji X T30 Mark I and a couple weeks ago i bought a Lumix S5 II. The video is fantastic from that camera and low light Performance is also really good but oh boy is that thing heavy and its kinda feels clunky to use. I don’t know why but i feel more at home with my Fuji although it has no Ibis and is still 8 bit and only shoots 4k 30 max. Maybe i need to take a step back and really consider what i actually need? Would a ZV E1 or 7CII be great? Yeah probably. But i still have to go out and shoot. Maybe i will sell the Lumix and buy a better Tripod, some nice lights etc.
The ZV-E1 is compelling because it's the better video camera BUT I love shooting flash for photos and it only has an electronic shutter with a max flash sync speed of 1/30. That's a dealbreaker. The A7C II is the way to go. I love my A7C and in a couple years I'll get an A7C II when it's 50% less expensive. Don't mind waiting. 😎
I've been looking for a small camera to compliment my a1, and I think this is going to be the one. I didn't like how soft the video was in the a7cr, but the a7cii seems to hit that little bit of everything sweet spot, and it looks like a lot of fun to use with a compact prime or two. Awesome video as always!
Thanks Cam, useful as always - although I staid with Canon, still great to see your Sony Reviews - Now, could anyone please create a Contax T2 (almost 40mm) in Digital please? Compact with builtin Flash, ready to take in your pocket in fullformat as well - the one company doing this will make tons of selling cameras... ;D
I feel like the rangefinder style viewfinder is hugely underrated as well. I also own a x100v, a7c, and a slew of other 35mm film cameras that utilize this style view finder and now I find that when I use any camera with it, my eye goes straight to it by muscle memory. It is my preferred stills shooting style when available because it takes me in and out of the shot so much quicker. I'm not chimping, adjusting settings, I feel more present and my subjects see me, not a guy staring at his rear lcd. I thought it was stupid at first, but I've definitely eaten my words and now love it.
Seems like a nicely done camera. As an amateur/enthusiast it's still a bit too much to spend for now. Like I did with my X-T3, I hope to be able to get something used as an upgrade at some point. Thanks for the info. BTW, I agree with the other post here, cool Citroen!! Have a great day...
@cammackey I have the Eos R5 as my main body. So, looking for a compact B cam. Canon, unfortunately, has nothing to match. But for travel and street, video etc it's a perfect little camera imo. Tried the x100v but not for me, so sold it 🙂
Would this be worth the upgrade from an A7iii if form-factor, general usability and quality, and being fun to use is more important than video? Or would something like the X-H2s be a better option?
This is me right now.. I have the xh2s with the 18mm 1.4 and I wonder if I should switch over to this for FF. I mostly just use it for documenting my family and travel.
I can’t really say cause idk everything you guys need it for and how you plan to use it. The XH2S is an amazing camera tho only reason I got rid of mine is because I’m trying my best to keep to one lens mount (Sony e mount) so I don’t have to drown in even more lenses. I personally like full frame mroe cause I get more lens options and can push the bokeh with my standard lenses Bs having to compensate if/when I need more separation. And then I can always crop into the sensor and still use S35 lenses when needed
Dude I've watched every single one of your videos since the Fuji days. Just love the conent. Also, Sony missed a chance to get a trio of the A7C cameras. They should've given us a A7Cs option as well. ZVE1 is unfortunately not for everyone.
I find that in many situations the amount of noise on FX3 between 3200 and 12800 is quite comparable, but with more chances of banding in shadows at 3200.
So if the scene is more or less evenly exposed or without large dark areas I just use up to 3200 ISO.
I also find FX3 + 16-35 f4 PZ combo very comfortable to use, because you can zoom in and out and operate the whole camera with just one hand.
It's especially handy on hiking trips or when you're just running around the city where your other hand might be holding something else.
It saves so much time to just press the shutter button to wake from sleep and then change the focal length with the zoom rocker and take the shot.
Would you recommend the fx3 over the Sony zv-e1
If the difference in price is not the issue then FX3 is much more logical choice than ZV-E1 based on the dual card slots alone.
Some people say it's fine, but memory cards fail and I would never use a camera without dual card slots even for my personal projects.
But for general day to day use it's okay and the chance that the card is going to fail on you is pretty low.
Other than that you also get a fan and it gives you freedom to never think about overheating. I've shot 4k 60 fps numerous times under the sun in 96-98 degree weather and I didn't even get the overheating warning.
Also ZV-E1 only has an electronic shutter which is a no go for flash photography or capturing anything dynamic.
The size difference is pretty negligible because they both lack a viewfinder at the top of the camera which is the most bothersome part.
I can fit the FX3 in my autumn or winter coat pocket without issues, but sometimes you just want an even smaller camera, and when I see someone walking by with a Fuji I get jealous.
@@MODESTYXO205
@@Arseny.Petukhov Thanks, I am going to go with the Sony fx3. What lens do you use the most to pair with your fx3
I think the fact that this can do basically everything the A7IV can do eg. professional photo AND professional video, but also be a really fun personal camera with a small prime lens makes it an absolute winner in my books.
It’s almost like owning an X100V and a workhorse camera in one. The only real negative for me personally is the lack of dual SD card slots for the peace of mind for client work.
Best review yet..really like the points you made.. will be selling my a7 IV for this.. the compact size n style makes it a more attractive package for travel/lifestyle
Love the review and the visual quality. Great work
So I am thinking of the 7cii and the a7iv but for professional work do you agree that the a7iv is the one to get becasue of the dual camera slot right? and I can maybe get a Fujifilm x100v for personal everyday stuff
It was useful!
Lets PL mount that disposable camera lens and put it on my Alexa, ha!
and compared to A7CR..? 61 Mpix AND Full Frame 4k 60p (1.2crop versus 1.5 crop on A7CII)
If I get the time maybe! Granted I have the A7RV already so im not too interested in the CR
Also, being left-eye dominant sucks so bad for rangefinder cameras... wish so bad I wasn't 😅
love the vibe your videos have. Thats something special! Not just sitting in front of a clean youtuber desk with tons of light and doing the whole video from it.
FINALLY, someone that also looks at the positive side of one card slot! Small/lightweight camera that is ideal for travel. Why would I want to carry a card reader? Thank you! I'm loving the 7CM2 so far, wish the grip would have launched with the camera.
Yeah I don’t get why people are crying about card slots when there’s a million other options in Sonys line with 2 card slots lol. Like if you don’t like it.. but the next one up 😂 idk why that’s so hard for people to comprehend. We’re getting a pro sensor in this more consumer friendly body.. they missin the point I guess to OPTIONS haha
Why not the A7CR? Is the A7Cii better?
@@cammackey Thank you! i understand having that piece of mind... but honestly cards are so reliable nowadays. I haven't had any card issue using my og A7c. it's always straight to the pc when its time to unload
hello from france man, I dont often post comments but your content and the vibe you give off is amazing. peace. I also got the A7CII with the tamy 20-40, best versatile setup I finally achieve to get which give me 100% satisfaction. And I get many sony cameras and differents lenses, it just replaces the sigma 16-28 I really liked too but here the 40mm give me a very nice B-roll and stab footage with the active stab only.
Really wish SONY used the 4 axis screen of Sony A7RV for ANY hybrid camera. For photos I HATE the swivel out screen only design, for street photo speacially it really is a regression/drag, when you want to be less intimidating, maintain low profile. Smaller cam/frame as these compact full-frames from Sony (A7C/A7CII/A7CR) in theory are less intimidating cameras for street photography but this gets nullified if you like the type of low angle, shoot from the hip because you have to swivel OUT and to the SIDE.
I have a Sony A7II/A7III and didn't upgrade to Sony A7IV because of the swivel out screen design.
Selling my overpriced xh2 with xf 16-55mm for this, auto focus was terrible on the xh2 and wasn't impressed by it's image quality, looking forward to going back to sony.
I low key wish it was cheaper, I understand why it’s not, but I love this little a7IV clone alot , it has a “no stress” feel to it
My first experience with this sensor and once again impressed and baffled that I didn’t try it earlier haha
Bro... there's a UA-cam guy who has mapped the Sony Creative Styles to Fuji sims... * The Active Dynamic Stab is clutch on the ZV-E1 (besides 4k60)
I think I saw those sony film sims, ive tried them and theyre not that great. No hate on that guy. They're no where close to the Fuji sims.
Does it come with an inbuilt flash like the one in a6400
Love the video, really useful and great to hear your thoughts !! I had been wondering about this vs zv-e1 and loved seeing the noise reduced footage you got out of it. Also love that “cry babies” section at the end too 👏
If that overheats indoors, Just imagine how it will outdoors, My A7IV over heats quite often and not even in really hot hot weather. Must have a bad copy bc I have tried all the tricks and it overheats at least once a day in Mid warm weather. Somewhere like Florida it would probably catch on fire with in 20 minutes... Albeit I shoot 60p 4K almost 90% of the time..
Oh yeah thats def form the 60fps. in 24fps it hasn't overheated once.
Easily the best review so far of this camera given your sanity on use cases. Ideally I would get an FX3 as a third cam for my video podcast studio (have FX6/A7S3) but as you say it’s twice the price so leaning towards this plus the fan if needed although I’m filming 15 mins at a time in UK so thinking I’m ok! ZV E1 would be pushing it though 😂
Knowing the versatility of this camera, if the Xpro4 isn't what I hope for, I'll likely go this route.
I wanted this body with the ZVE1 sensor, but I think I'm the only person who is fine with 12mp for stills
I like to do a lot of crops in post so I personally like a little more wiggle room
I suggest calling these reviews “Cam’s Cams”.
I’ll show myself out.
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Beautiful daughter!
I just need you to know how refreshing your videos. This review is awesome, dude.
Hey 👋 Why did you choose the black version of the camera if you’re a fan of retro-style cameras? Wouldn’t the silver version be more fitting for that? 🤠
Was a loaner from Sony. Think imma buy the silver version!
@@cammackey I ordered the camera in silver and black, but I must admit, the black one has a stealthy elegance that I absolutely prefer. The silver option shall find its way back from whence it came.
Worth selling my a7iv for this? It’s gonna be like $400, been wanting to downsize but idk if weight difference is worth paying $400.
Cam! Lovely video! My favorite SOOC image is canon but I like the size of Sony bodies! And in body LUT for my travel video. Fuji AF is out for me. Do you recommend this camera over the r8, zve1?
Damn your videos are really helpful. Im currently shooting with a Fuji X T30 Mark I and a couple weeks ago i bought a Lumix S5 II.
The video is fantastic from that camera and low light Performance is also really good but oh boy is that thing heavy and its kinda feels clunky to use. I don’t know why but i feel more at home with my Fuji although it has no Ibis and is still 8 bit and only shoots 4k 30 max. Maybe i need to take a step back and really consider what i actually need? Would a ZV E1 or 7CII be great? Yeah probably. But i still have to go out and shoot. Maybe i will sell the Lumix and buy a better Tripod, some nice lights etc.
The ZV-E1 is compelling because it's the better video camera BUT I love shooting flash for photos and it only has an electronic shutter with a max flash sync speed of 1/30. That's a dealbreaker. The A7C II is the way to go. I love my A7C and in a couple years I'll get an A7C II when it's 50% less expensive. Don't mind waiting. 😎
Would you choose this over an A7IV for professional work because of better AF maybe or preloading LUT's?
I've been looking for a small camera to compliment my a1, and I think this is going to be the one. I didn't like how soft the video was in the a7cr, but the a7cii seems to hit that little bit of everything sweet spot, and it looks like a lot of fun to use with a compact prime or two.
Awesome video as always!
Did you end up buying the a7cii? whats the a7RV video like compared to the zve1 and the a7cii. whats the difference
Thanks Cam, useful as always - although I staid with Canon, still great to see your Sony Reviews - Now, could anyone please create a Contax T2 (almost 40mm) in Digital please? Compact with builtin Flash, ready to take in your pocket in fullformat as well - the one company doing this will make tons of selling cameras... ;D
Do you have a go to Fuji film simulation or recipe? I use a lot of the Kodak recipes. Love that 27mm pancake (41ish mm) on my X-S20
awesome vid bro. I can't wait to get one.
I feel like the rangefinder style viewfinder is hugely underrated as well. I also own a x100v, a7c, and a slew of other 35mm film cameras that utilize this style view finder and now I find that when I use any camera with it, my eye goes straight to it by muscle memory. It is my preferred stills shooting style when available because it takes me in and out of the shot so much quicker. I'm not chimping, adjusting settings, I feel more present and my subjects see me, not a guy staring at his rear lcd. I thought it was stupid at first, but I've definitely eaten my words and now love it.
Should try voigtlanders 40mm e mount lens for an x100v clone.
I love my ZV-E1.. such a great grab n go camera
I picked one up too. A well rounded camera. Ordered the Sony 40mm today.
Yay I’m first… keep pushing dope content..
Oh damn I look with the other eye. Nice Citroen DS btw.
Seems like a nicely done camera. As an amateur/enthusiast it's still a bit too much to spend for now. Like I did with my X-T3, I hope to be able to get something used as an upgrade at some point. Thanks for the info. BTW, I agree with the other post here, cool Citroen!! Have a great day...
Its funny how filmmakers talk about the lowlight noise when they add grain anyways😂
Right 😂😂😂😂😂
Great vid as always Cam!
Why the crop!! Why Sony?! Why!!!!
Congrats on the 50k, long over due.
always good info
i was happy for a second thinking this video will include module 8 tuner !
Got to meetup with one of the founders to test them out. Exciting things to come!!!
Nice review, it's a great piece of kit for the right person. What's your thoughts on paying extra for the a7cr ?
I already have the A7RV so for me I don’t need it, but if you’re someone who wants/needs the extra MP and have been wanting to upgrade, no brainer.
@cammackey I have the Eos R5 as my main body. So, looking for a compact B cam. Canon, unfortunately, has nothing to match. But for travel and street, video etc it's a perfect little camera imo. Tried the x100v but not for me, so sold it 🙂
how is the 120 fps in HD in this camera and how would you compare the 7 stop ibis to the cropped dynamic stabilization from zve1?
Idk, I don’t use 120gps or ibis that much. So didn’t test them haha
@@cammackey thanks fkr the quick response. i am debating between zve1 and a7c mark 2 as a travel camera
@@imranalijafarif you wanna take any photos with it.. I’d suggest the A7CII.
How about shutter speed 1/4000, is that a big deal
Eh, just close down the aperture. I’m not someone shots pass f2.8, traditionally fashion wasn’t about the bokeh…
Love the work and style. Love the channel
The new logo is sick!
Would this be worth the upgrade from an A7iii if form-factor, general usability and quality, and being fun to use is more important than video? Or would something like the X-H2s be a better option?
This is me right now.. I have the xh2s with the 18mm 1.4 and I wonder if I should switch over to this for FF. I mostly just use it for documenting my family and travel.
I can’t really say cause idk everything you guys need it for and how you plan to use it. The XH2S is an amazing camera tho only reason I got rid of mine is because I’m trying my best to keep to one lens mount (Sony e mount) so I don’t have to drown in even more lenses. I personally like full frame mroe cause I get more lens options and can push the bokeh with my standard lenses Bs having to compensate if/when I need more separation. And then I can always crop into the sensor and still use S35 lenses when needed
I do miss Fujifilm simulations tho when I comes to shooting stills.
Johnny Doe in " The Cameras of the Caribbean"
😂😂😂😂😂
Love that Sony Canonet in the thumbnail. Haha
Hahaha good eye
Very good video!
Man, the colors and contrast in this video has made me your instant fan! Buying the A7c2 now and surely revisit more content from you 🫶