Great guide. A tip that improved my spy gameplay is to not look at the enemy directly, always use peripheral vision. Whenever people turn back to spycheck, the most suspicious ones are those staring directly at them, holding W key.
Even as a well versed spy main I found myself extremely engaged with this guide. This is probably the best guide I've ever watched. Super underrated stuff
Solid advice! I find that it's best to get the hang of 'simple' tips that are mentioned in the video before trying to go for flashy clips. It's great to see such information put together in an easy to follow manner. Great job!
That was the most concise and chill video I have watched in a very long time. Thank you SO much for the insight, Sniggity!! I want to get better at spy, it’s one of my goals for this year!
I am new to tf2 as of the ban wave and scout and spy are my favorite. This is a super helpful vid for me as i suck at spy from sheer lack of knowledge. I played like 3hrs of spy without knowing about bumping Edit: what concerns me is whether or not enemies can hear me communicate with my team
iirc if you're on an all-talk community server, the enemy will be able to see your voicechat blurb above your head you'd be ok on casual cause there's no all-talk there
How is this so high quality? The explanatioms, the examples, the learning. Oh! It's just so perfect! Awesome job there, snigitty! Keep like that, you have a great potential
Subscribing just because this compilation is so good. I'm surprised I wasn't recommended the earlier parts before. Great stuff man and thanks for all the tips!
I couldn't play spy for shit after like 8000 hours of this game. This video has given me a reliable and simple enough mindset to enjoy spy; I'm now always top 3 in points, and the things I'm doing in the match have an immediate effect on the team's outcome. Incredible way to summarize over 1000 hours of experience in a subject matter. Above all else I'm having fun in team fortress 2 for the first time in years. My heart rate rises and I get heavily in the zone, it's such a fun class! Thank you for making this video, this is the best guide I've seen on any subject in the game.
Im sincerely glad you got something out of it. Once you break the class down into simpler concepts its easy to remember those things while playing in my opinion.
Another upside for the YER (Your Eternal Reward) is that the silent killer also makes your victims bodies dissapear and there to be no backstab scream. While the noise is still present, often times people will be looking for the scream.
I feel like it would've been very beneficial for the video to mention the fact that Spy's role is to support his team, to pick high value targets, and impede the enemy team, rather than be effective offensively. I get that the video does talk about that, but stating it outright at the start of the video would've been a nice touch. :)
Everyone else: i’m watching this video because I want to get better at spy Me: i’ve been watching TF2 for the past six years of my life but I can’t download it so I’ve just been watching videos of people playing it
I've been playing for thousands of hours now and i still can't get the hang of spy despite being one of my most played classes, but this is really helpful! Thanks..I'll subscribe now
Just a hidden tip I don't think I saw mentioned here is depending how many players are on your team will dictate how many spies there should be on your team, "just because you can doesn't mean you should" because the more spies there are the more paranoid the enemy gets so aim for a max of 1 or 2. Be considerate of the teams success, true honestly winning does grant any value you really but ensuring good teamwork and consideration usually leads everyone to feeling good by the end of a round. Usually if I see 1 or 2 spies already playing i pick a different class till either on switch or not at all. With spy less really leads to more results. This isn't a golden rule, like you HAVE to do this just a really useful tip overall for better results for you as a spy player or to other spy players
its fitting how you say getting behind everyone and not being detected are important. kinda shows how the dead ringer is antithetical to spy. I never get it to work, its really hard to maneuver behind the enemy, and if you use it to move behind them, and you will not have it ready for a long time after you trigger it, so it is risky
Dead ringer in my mind is for when you want to practice trickstabs and are not trying to survive afterwards. Which lots of spies do. Not to say its wrong if people prefer to play like that but i think a lot more can get done by staying alive longer
So i usually just hit the "last disguise" button which i have bound to V. But I also use the advanced option for disguising that makes it so you only need to hit 1-3 to disguise as any class. Its in advanced options. So for example to disguise as soldier you bring up the disguise kit and then hit 1, 2 and voila. I dont use any specific binds that arent already in the game though. Once you get used to using the disguise kit this way you can quickly hit 3 keys to disguise as any class you want. Let me know if you need any further help with it
Ive never used any in 16 years, but some spies bind the net_graph command to see if they are encountering desync. If you really dont like using the 1-3 keys to change disguises i suppose you could bind your numpad 1-9
Personally i like to run Diamondback, any knife i fee l like using (usually stock) and standard invis watch, the crits allow you to get out of any shitty situation if you racked up some kills beforehand
Any class could watch this to try and counter spies. It doesnt always mean it will work, but it could help you to learn the tactics they will use against you ;)
@SniggityDiggity its easier to get in easier to get out and easier to kill people you are just biased because you are farming people way under your skill level
Huh? Its just as easy to get in with all the knives. And sure its easier to get out with big earner if the enemies are dumb, otherwise any soldier, demo or scout thats good will easily kill you due to having 100 health. And i play comp, they arent way below my skill level lol. I have thousands of kills with all the knives, i definitely know the strengths and weaknesses of each one
@SniggityDiggity easier to get in health wise, and big earner allows for chains that would be literally impossible otherwise this video is great but you neglected to say some things like the enforcers penetration power theres definitely some bias here
@sirchris6047 no bias, its just what works for the playstyle i try to teach. Enforcer is really only useful for taking down wrangled sentries tho unless youre playing against lower skilled players. And 30 extra health than the kunai means you die to the same stuff as the kunai dies to with the added nerf of never gaining extra health. Escaping is more difficult with big earner due to you having half the health you would have after a kunai kill. It might make you faster but not faster than a rocket or pipe. After you stab someone obviously all the enemies will be looking at you. I'd rather have over 200 hp than run slightly faster. Big earner is good for chainstabs and then you die. Its been that way for a while. Im not saying its a bad knife but definitely leaves you weaker and more exposed
I absolutely love this! One factor though, do you recommend cl_interp if so which one? I don't use it and I hit good trickstabs. But is it better to use it 2. Can I bind specific disguises? If so what do i do? (Like disguise as Pyro without bringing up disguise kit) 3. When do I stop being aggressive while trickstabbing? I know you said I should stay alive but with kunai and dr do you think trickstabs are worth it? To keep going on until I die to make a bigger impact?
1. Personally I think using interp is a crutch as you can perform just as well with the default. But to each his own, you would have to look up which interp to use if you decide to as im not sure. 2. yes, use the bind command in conjunction with the commands listed here: wiki.teamfortress.com/wiki/Scripting#Disguising but its much easier to just use the concise disguise menu in advanced options. 3. It really depends what you are trying to do. Are you discovered but see a good medic pick? Go for it. Trying to chainstab every life for a montage? Keep going in. But me personally I will get a good few stabs and then cloak, unless there is an enemy I know I cant hide from, then I will go for a trickstab. Sometimes its also just fun to see how many you can get before you die. But if you are playing seriously to win then I recommend always cloaking/using DR when you are found out, then get to safety and go back in.
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Engineering 101
Great guide. A tip that improved my spy gameplay is to not look at the enemy directly, always use peripheral vision. Whenever people turn back to spycheck, the most suspicious ones are those staring directly at them, holding W key.
Its much more effective than people think. You pretty much never wanna be looking directly at your target until you stab them.
Even as a well versed spy main I found myself extremely engaged with this guide. This is probably the best guide I've ever watched. Super underrated stuff
Glad you appreciate it! Thanks for taking the time to write that out, it gives me motivation haha
13:56 my guy just casually says 'Here's Uncle Dane'
Hes on uncletopia quite a bit. I have a video somewhere of me kritzing him all game
Solid advice!
I find that it's best to get the hang of 'simple' tips that are mentioned in the video before trying to go for flashy clips. It's great to see such information put together in an easy to follow manner. Great job!
Whats funny to me is that the thumbnail makes spies hat and clothes longer and longer in each phase
I got 3 trickstabs in a row. Im was so happy until I realized it was all a dream😔
Wai for real depression when you dream up a perfect aerial
That was the most concise and chill video I have watched in a very long time. Thank you SO much for the insight, Sniggity!! I want to get better at spy, it’s one of my goals for this year!
3:19 will probably go unnoticed for a lot of people but i think the crouch behind the crate when you cloaked was pretty quick thinking
I am new to tf2 as of the ban wave and scout and spy are my favorite. This is a super helpful vid for me as i suck at spy from sheer lack of knowledge. I played like 3hrs of spy without knowing about bumping
Edit: what concerns me is whether or not enemies can hear me communicate with my team
enemies can hear your voicelines, which i talked about, but unless you are on a server that has all-talk enabled they cannot hear your microphone
iirc if you're on an all-talk community server, the enemy will be able to see your voicechat blurb above your head
you'd be ok on casual cause there's no all-talk there
How is this so high quality? The explanatioms, the examples, the learning. Oh! It's just so perfect! Awesome job there, snigitty! Keep like that, you have a great potential
Appreciate it!
Subscribing just because this compilation is so good. I'm surprised I wasn't recommended the earlier parts before. Great stuff man and thanks for all the tips!
Appreciate it!
hey man i just wanna say you cheer me up when im having a rough time and help me in fact and i just wanna say thank you and keep up the good work.
glad im able to cheer you up. I got some good stuff coming out, just might take a bit ;)
Great video, loved the tips and the music!
Thanks! Glad you got something out of it
I couldn't play spy for shit after like 8000 hours of this game. This video has given me a reliable and simple enough mindset to enjoy spy; I'm now always top 3 in points, and the things I'm doing in the match have an immediate effect on the team's outcome. Incredible way to summarize over 1000 hours of experience in a subject matter. Above all else I'm having fun in team fortress 2 for the first time in years. My heart rate rises and I get heavily in the zone, it's such a fun class! Thank you for making this video, this is the best guide I've seen on any subject in the game.
Im sincerely glad you got something out of it. Once you break the class down into simpler concepts its easy to remember those things while playing in my opinion.
Thanks Sniggity now I do not need to waste 10 seconds of time
Hell yeah lol
Another upside for the YER (Your Eternal Reward) is that the silent killer also makes your victims bodies dissapear and there to be no backstab scream. While the noise is still present, often times people will be looking for the scream.
I love spycaping, won several rounds like that at the end
Very useful guide, thank you!
I feel like it would've been very beneficial for the video to mention the fact that Spy's role is to support his team, to pick high value targets, and impede the enemy team, rather than be effective offensively. I get that the video does talk about that, but stating it outright at the start of the video would've been a nice touch. :)
Everyone else: i’m watching this video because I want to get better at spy
Me: i’ve been watching TF2 for the past six years of my life but I can’t download it so I’ve just been watching videos of people playing it
Oh why can't you download it?
@@SniggityDiggity don’t have a pc and can’t spend money on one
@@Btyoung2028literally me. Sadly
@@TUM_yt a fellow tf2 observer
@@Btyoung2028 it sucks not being able to play tf2. I just wanna main Spy😭
I've been playing for thousands of hours now and i still can't get the hang of spy despite being one of my most played classes, but this is really helpful! Thanks..I'll subscribe now
I appreciate it! I think my next step is maybe going over specific maps one at a time so i can give better examples of what I'm talking about.
Just a hidden tip I don't think I saw mentioned here is depending how many players are on your team will dictate how many spies there should be on your team, "just because you can doesn't mean you should" because the more spies there are the more paranoid the enemy gets so aim for a max of 1 or 2. Be considerate of the teams success, true honestly winning does grant any value you really but ensuring good teamwork and consideration usually leads everyone to feeling good by the end of a round. Usually if I see 1 or 2 spies already playing i pick a different class till either on switch or not at all. With spy less really leads to more results. This isn't a golden rule, like you HAVE to do this just a really useful tip overall for better results for you as a spy player or to other spy players
I would say this for every class honestly. No more than 1 or 2 of each, but yeah especially spy because it just makes the enemies more paranoid
There's this bug when enemies turn around and shoot instead of aiming. Valve pls fix this.
i got a lot more backstabs with this always stay invisible technique, thx a lot
its fitting how you say getting behind everyone and not being detected are important. kinda shows how the dead ringer is antithetical to spy. I never get it to work, its really hard to maneuver behind the enemy, and if you use it to move behind them, and you will not have it ready for a long time after you trigger it, so it is risky
Dead ringer in my mind is for when you want to practice trickstabs and are not trying to survive afterwards. Which lots of spies do. Not to say its wrong if people prefer to play like that but i think a lot more can get done by staying alive longer
Engineer mains been real quiet since this dropped...
should of made the thumbnail a reverse of the evolution chart for humans
thats actually a really funny idea. I might steal that if its ok with you
@@SniggityDiggity do it
Really good video explains a lot and helps a lot thanks 👍
what is the song from1:01??
We spy gaming with this one!!! 🔥🔥🔥🔥🗣🗣🗣🗣🗣
(Good tutorial by the way I really enjoyed it!)
Can you tell me what coat cosmetic you are using in the 4th picture of thumbnail
The turncoat, painted black
Very useful thank youuuuu
8:47
Snigg you should make an in depth baiting tut and trickstab tut
I got a lot of projects to work on lol. Itll come eventually
What are your binds for disguising w/o pulling up the kit? I bound them on my numpad but they feel kinda clunky to get to them
So i usually just hit the "last disguise" button which i have bound to V. But I also use the advanced option for disguising that makes it so you only need to hit 1-3 to disguise as any class. Its in advanced options. So for example to disguise as soldier you bring up the disguise kit and then hit 1, 2 and voila. I dont use any specific binds that arent already in the game though. Once you get used to using the disguise kit this way you can quickly hit 3 keys to disguise as any class you want. Let me know if you need any further help with it
@@SniggityDiggity Omg I'm so dumb I only used that bind to change the weapon my disguise holds. Thank you so much!
@@SniggityDiggity can i get the bind command if thats not difficult for you?
@ren1bas900 its not a bind command, as i just stated. Its just an advanced option in tf2. Scroll to the spy disguise option in advanced options
@@SniggityDiggity ty
I just play spy because I love the revolver😂
What about using the L'etranger with stock knife and watch?
Absolutely. You just have to remember to get health packs. With stock knife ill usually get packs if im like less than 90 hp
Are there any useful spy scripts/binds? Like uncle dane has the engie binds for building and destroying
Ive never used any in 16 years, but some spies bind the net_graph command to see if they are encountering desync. If you really dont like using the 1-3 keys to change disguises i suppose you could bind your numpad 1-9
I think stock best pairs with kunai since it packs a punch
Its not a terrible combo but if you are using stock revolver with kunai you just wanna make sure you have that overheal before shooting
Personally i like to run Diamondback, any knife i fee l like using (usually stock) and standard invis watch, the crits allow you to get out of any shitty situation if you racked up some kills beforehand
Diamondback is good, especially for razorbacks
@@SniggityDiggity for razorback snipers i prefer to assert dominance and beat them at their own trade with an Amby headshot
so what if a soldier main is watching this he will learn everything to counter spys
Any class could watch this to try and counter spies. It doesnt always mean it will work, but it could help you to learn the tactics they will use against you ;)
@@SniggityDiggity ye i have 80 hours on spy but u helped me quite a lot im still learning matador stab
Glad to hear it, keep it up!
Song at 21:16?
Honestly I looked for quite a while and cannot remember which song it is. Its buried in the youtube audio library somewhere.
Hey someone found the song for you, Fast and Run - Nico Staf
Well my loadout is the letranger c&d and random knife is really good
now les go snipers guide as of 30:38
1000 hours on spy and you still havent realized that the big earner is literally better than the kunai in every way
Hard disagree. Its pretty fun but it doesnt make you invincible like kunai does
@SniggityDiggity its easier to get in easier to get out and easier to kill people you are just biased because you are farming people way under your skill level
Huh? Its just as easy to get in with all the knives. And sure its easier to get out with big earner if the enemies are dumb, otherwise any soldier, demo or scout thats good will easily kill you due to having 100 health. And i play comp, they arent way below my skill level lol. I have thousands of kills with all the knives, i definitely know the strengths and weaknesses of each one
@SniggityDiggity easier to get in health wise, and big earner allows for chains that would be literally impossible otherwise
this video is great but you neglected to say some things like the enforcers penetration power theres definitely some bias here
@sirchris6047 no bias, its just what works for the playstyle i try to teach. Enforcer is really only useful for taking down wrangled sentries tho unless youre playing against lower skilled players. And 30 extra health than the kunai means you die to the same stuff as the kunai dies to with the added nerf of never gaining extra health. Escaping is more difficult with big earner due to you having half the health you would have after a kunai kill. It might make you faster but not faster than a rocket or pipe. After you stab someone obviously all the enemies will be looking at you. I'd rather have over 200 hp than run slightly faster. Big earner is good for chainstabs and then you die. Its been that way for a while. Im not saying its a bad knife but definitely leaves you weaker and more exposed
I absolutely love this! One factor though, do you recommend cl_interp if so which one? I don't use it and I hit good trickstabs. But is it better to use it
2. Can I bind specific disguises? If so what do i do? (Like disguise as Pyro without bringing up disguise kit)
3. When do I stop being aggressive while trickstabbing? I know you said I should stay alive but with kunai and dr do you think trickstabs are worth it? To keep going on until I die to make a bigger impact?
1. Personally I think using interp is a crutch as you can perform just as well with the default. But to each his own, you would have to look up which interp to use if you decide to as im not sure.
2. yes, use the bind command in conjunction with the commands listed here: wiki.teamfortress.com/wiki/Scripting#Disguising
but its much easier to just use the concise disguise menu in advanced options.
3. It really depends what you are trying to do. Are you discovered but see a good medic pick? Go for it. Trying to chainstab every life for a montage? Keep going in. But me personally I will get a good few stabs and then cloak, unless there is an enemy I know I cant hide from, then I will go for a trickstab. Sometimes its also just fun to see how many you can get before you die. But if you are playing seriously to win then I recommend always cloaking/using DR when you are found out, then get to safety and go back in.
Aint no way bro killed uncle dane
You can find him pretty regularly on his servers
His servers?
@MasonZhao-pm5ht uncletopia
To spy or not to spy ?
To spy
thnks for this!
You're welcome!
DONT REMOVE THE S FROM SNIGGITY, WORST MISTAKE OF MY LIFE
wait. spy was revolver???
Hud name? Love the video
I use the default flawhud and min viewmodels
@@SniggityDiggity Ty homie
Eughhhh the view model pov look away
the yearly rinse and repeat spy tutorial
I'm your 1k sub 😺
Congrats! And thank you
92nd comment, make it 100 in the replies! (94 actually now)
watch this if u wanna be a noob
ooh, a rare cope comment, fun!
@@SniggityDiggity im not coping you are just a very sub par player with a cringe playstyle
he thinks hes good and dislikes spy players. Its pretty funny
@SniggityDiggity I am extremely good and your Playstyle is mediocre and will lead to 0 improvement in skill or movement + it's boring
idk man, invite players disagree with you
Hey sniggity its dannydongvito! I didnt know you did youtube this is a nice vid
Yeah lol. Its a nice hobby, hopefully you learned something