SpyTalk - Art of the Backstab
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- Опубліковано 15 чер 2024
- Hello. In this video, I talk about backstabs.
This video is my most ambitious and complex project yet, and I am so proud to finally present it to you.
I hope you enjoy.
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Music used:
Most of the music is made by me - • Art of the Backstab - ...
Except:
Hades - The Unseen Ones - • Hades - The Unseen One...
TF2 - Right Behind You - • Team Fortress 2 Soundt...
Links and vids:
wiki.teamfortress.com/wiki/Re...
wiki.teamfortress.com/wiki/Ro... (for the reload time)
sigsegv - Spy backstab detection mechanics illustrated - • Spy backstab detection...
wiki.teamfortress.com/wiki/Cl... (for the walk speeds)
Ezra - Circle Strafe Stabs: The Level 1s - • Circle Strafe Stabs: T...
CulRulDud - TF2- Circle Strafing Tutorial: Strafing Towards [Part 1/5] - • TF2- Circle Strafing T...
Thank you for your support. I hope to see you in the next one.
-H - Ігри
Thank you for watching. The production of this video has been an enormous part of my life for many months now, so I'm happy to finally show you all what I can do.
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I will be releasing the soundtrack to this video (made by me) in about a week's time, with an extras video following some time after that, going over anything I missed or any mistakes I might have let slip. Please feel free to comment what you would like to see in the extras video below. I will also probably be doing a milestone Q&A at some point, so look forward to that.
Until then, I'll see you when I see you.
Cheerio.
-H
you even made the music, niceee
Also using your disguise before you cloak makes your smoke visible for some time i think you forgot to mention that in the cloak & juke part
yo w h a t you even made the music- you madlad. This is really, really cool!
That final tip, helping your fellow spy, is something me and my buddies do all the time and on purpose. We call it a Spy Sandwich, or "Sandwiching." For decent spies, it's nearly always effective on lone targets.
@@TheMinecraftACMan Le Spy helps Le Spy, beautiful tactic
My biggest problem with spy:
My brain shuts down as soon as I see enemy's backs in close proximity, making me walk forward more than a phlog pyro
Try xanax.
Try steroids.
Try tren
I have never experienced this. I come from a long long line of very smart people with some of the top science achievements. This was passed down, my grandpa gave my dad great brain, and my dad gave me even better brain.
Try Lean.
As a heavy main, it’s always a weird mix of nice and horrifying to see a video about spy be so well put together. Guess that’s why I run tomislav, so much easier to hear the sneaky Frenchman without all that rattling.
*snort*
so true
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#TomiisBest
@@somemax5974 nah, my faves is the brass beast
As an experienced Heavy main, I can confirm we get backstabbed so often we end up subconsciously learning how to think like both spy and sniper. We get hit with sudden, overwhelming premonitions when we're about to be stabbed or shot just by reading the game.
People like to say Heavy has a low skill-ceiling, but he MORE then makes up for it with his ridiculously high game-sense ceiling.
I have yet to learn that as a medic
That is why you always Uber heavys as medic as they can kill spies for you
@@jjoohhnn6065 ???
no
Sometimes a heavy turns around at the most inconvenient time and kills me, and when that happens I’m not even mad, since that was a display of skill by the heavy. He read my mind before knowing I even exist and I can respect that. I can tell they’re a heavy main. But I’ve also learned how to counter these guys. Basically, when you have the most perfect opportunity to backstab them, you don’t take it, you wait for them to spy check, and when they turn back around again you have a window of about 2 seconds where you can stab them. You just need to prepare for that tiny window and be generally unpredictable.
@@justabiscuit1794 | See, THIS is why I respect dedicated Spy mains. The degree of mindgames you guys develop to outmaneuver experienced players is impressive!
Great video! :)
uncle dane knows a lot about great videos
Thank you Dane
Whoa uncle dane what r u doing here? Learning about spies so they cant kill ya?
@@NickIvanRowan a true engie main never stops learning
daddy dane
I'm a spy main, 3.5 mins into the video and I already am so happy someone FINALLY addresses the absolute most FRUSTRATING parts of spy. Most non spy players think its just pyros, but they don't understand the absolute crushing pain of seeing an opportunity for a massive chainstab and then having your backstab become a failstab as the entire enemy team turns around to kill you.
It’s why I like using the Y.E.R
There's another reason it's called a butterknife to hit someone like that: Spy's knife is called a ButterFLY knife, take away the fly and it's just a butterknife. It's almost like a play on words, though I doubt it was intended to be whenever the terminology was invented.
Personally I always thought it's because the horizontal slash resulting from a normal spy melee attack (like a failstab) kind of ressembles extending butter over a slice of bread or something to that effect.
@@jbook4719 That's only one animation though
Also like butter fingers
I think it's just because a butterknife is dull and can't really do a lot of damage... kinda like a a regular melee attack with the kunai
@@MegaMinecraft901 That's what he said in the video. We all know that part.
When it comes to juking, basically if you can avoid a medic soldier duo while trapped in a single room without dying your good to go. _sorry i did this once and i still get a rush thinking about it_
Or multiple heavies in a cramped room performing the russian death rose
We are sharing acrobatic achievements? Try walking through the entire enemy team actively spychecking, with two pyros literally waving around, you going through the middle, mid their uber push, with nothing but cloak, never bumping into anyone and passing through the other side unharmed.
If my aim wasn't literallly as harmless as covid, I would be a menace, because my movement is top tier.
"Remeber success isn't guaranteed, and failure isn't inherently bad. You learn more from failing than you do from succeeding, the difference being dopamine." is a fuckin banger of a quote my man
13:29 just want to say that since melee hits and all detection for backstabs use the collision hull or x,z position, the collision hull is the same for all classes, so if you have a static heavy and a static scout, they will be just as easy to backstab.
Thank you, that's exactly what I wanted to say.
This is correct, thank you
Wanted to point that out as well, thank you
Yup!
Yeah, this illusion of heavy being easier probably just comes from his slower movement speed.
If you can use height advantages and get one shots with a melee weapon.. does that mean spy is a jedi?
Obi-Wan just did the understab on Anakin.
@@memebro8703 Anakin was an overconfident lime scout
Ospi-wan. You were like a brother anascout.... I loved you.
Anascout: I HATE YOU!!! YOUR TRASH 1V1 ME LOSER!!
@@mewxtherealitygod4706
"It's over scout, I have the high ground!"
*"You underestimate my mobility"*
"Don't try it"
"You have allowed the lime paint to twist your mind, until now, until now you've become the very thing you swore to destroy!"
*"Don't lecture me, Spy-Main! I see through the lies of the old-timers. I do not fear the lime paint as you do. I have brought violence, K/D Ratios, Dominations, and Lenny-binds to my new server"*
"Your new server?"
*"Don't make me kill you."*
"Scout, my allegiance is to the Free-to-plays, to fun!"
*"If you're not with me, then you're my enemy"*
"[realizing that Scout consumed by the Lime paint and there's no reasoning with him anymore] Only a Warpig deals in absolutes!"
"[Draws his Stock knife]"
"I will do what I must."
*"You will try."*
*[Draws his stock scattergun and confronts Spy-main]*
That's some genuine effort for a video.
hi diwiel
Hi deewheel
We've been waiting for this, let's hope it gets the recognition it deserves.
uncle dane is here so
I 6
Why does the thumbnail look so fucking weird.
@Sheep Man Same for me.
Bruh its a youtube thumbnail its not meant to be art. It show what the video is about and is a pretty good sfm
I love your content. Even the contract conquests are a treat. This is wonderful. Insanely good job.
Thank you
Solid video essay friend. The TF2 community is really dissecting the spy of late.
Iz da famoose youtooba
Omg is that the famous UA-camr Octo from the Famous UA-cam channel Octo?!?!!?
"Vaguely visible visage" was such a smooth line read, great script
Spy tip:You can muffle your decloak with loud enemy shooting( like waiting for a sniper to shoot before decloak)
I got two minutes in, and i thought “wow, what much is there to talk about?” But the video just kept going, and kept mentioning things i wouldnt have even thought of. Great video man, i can see you put alot of effort into this, and i hope it does as well as it deserves to do (which is very well!)
Also i use that same editing software on a (probably) worse pc, and editing can be a pain. Worth it though.
Such good editing, such good joke timing, such good visuals, such good explanation, such good… everything! This is probably one of the highest quality TF2 videos on UA-cam, very cool stuff!
Thank you for the kind words
I would really like a spy talk on how to deal with spy checking and how to avoid getting checked
You dont. Just pray the enemy is stupid or running out of ammo so they cant afford to spy check. I guess itll work in combat if you dont bumb into anyone
That's just the design of spy, if people are cautious and coordinated spy gameplay is very difficult.
If a pyro is doing nothing but spraying every half-inch of walkable ground with fire every half-second, if you get caught and focused down you have no option but to either be perfect at escaping, or perfect at killing, or just die. I don't think you'll find a pyro with that mindset anytime soon (maybe me if you find me in casual, or pyros in HL) but spychecking is the main counter to spy, there's no real avoiding it.
I feel like spy is kind of dependent on the skill of your enemies. Not to put down spy players, there's definitely a high skill ceiling, but really the spy class is mostly a pub stomper.
dont look at them and walk backwards when you can
@@salsamancer needless to say, spy is not necessarily a carry class, the only time I can think of when a spy "carries" is if hes both on a team of totally incompetent players, and playing against totally incompetent players, while being also a phenomenal spy
The huge amount of dopamine I got from getting my first stair stab encouraged me to keep playing spy for the next two rounds even if I died a lot. Don’t give up spies, believe in yourselves.
Not even gonna lie, this is probably the best Spy tutorials I've ever seen. Editing was on point, information was really accurate and jokes landed. This was great! 10/10. I did want to add a useful tip for newer spys to the comment as well. If your using a weapon like the kuni and need HP badly near spawn, or in general stabbing near the bad gamers spawn, using the respawn list at the top to see whos dead or alive can be super useful as well as looking back before you go for the uncloak then stab. It's pretty embarrassing to get a stab then get random crit by a medic you didn't see behind you. Its always the medics......
I always use that respawn list to safely destroy the tele entrance at their spawn
hi blockbeam, i remember you :)
@@lucidtf2 you do seem familiar.... where have I seen your name before?
@@BlockBeam101 eh don't worry about it, it wasn't the best of circumstances
everytime I get stabbed by a second spy after killing the first:
_THERE'S _*_TWO_*_ OF THEM??_
Wait till he learns about the third spy
11:29 the joke is criminally under appreciated, and it deserves more.
I don't even LIKE playing Spy but this content is so good
its not, hes trash at spy
@@zilaz clown
@@zilaz you only know trickstabs cuz you're clown
@@charlsondemong4922 LOL
@@charlsondemong4922 every spy who can trickstab, can also play him "stealthily", not voce verse tho.
hee hee funny frenchman who gave him a knife
I love how the soundtrack sounds like a mix of Spy's and Loki's themes. Truly an exquisite composition
Love that intro with the light speed that turned out to be knives
It was worth the wait!! Was really cool seeing the progress in the discord, spotted my cameo too. Really great as always Hint!
Exceptional motion picture good sir, I especially enjoyed the vast amounts information on the act of "Trickstabbing".
as an engi mane, the thing i find most weird is that this vid actually helps me personally with sentry placement and also enemy predictability. great vid. thanks!
I don't even play spy, but the video was good enough to keep me watching lol
little note: 5:25
"you're forgiven more for playing the spy on offense," as a clip plays as red spy on badwater
Perfect tutorial for the current era, amazing. So much easier and compact than it was to obtain this info years ago haha. You're awesome, bud.
Great video! Been playing spy for about a month straight now and this helped me understand some things better. I'm disappointed that more people don't know about your channel.
This was a great video and just what i need to keep practicing, im a spy main with 150 hours and i still suck at playing spy, but you video has given me a boost to start practicing again, Thank you so much c:
I play him quite regularly, 27h at this point, but man he s sooo luck based, sometimes ppl go out of their way to spycheck, to the poit where i am useless and i hate that, or they just randomly turn around for no reason, or the soldier medic duo decides to stop pushing when under the effect of the banner and with my team nowhere to be see, just to kill me. But then i purposely decloak in fron of a soldier that shoots it s ro ket at me and that propels me into killing their heavy
Love the Aerodynamic remix my man, and the editing was phenomenal as well :)
Thank you
Such a good vid. And one of a few youtubers I've seen aknowledging the art of circle strafe stab and how insanely detailed the tutorials are.
The aftermath of a backstab is basically getting away with murder or going nuts for a chain stab.
I like how it translates very well irl
Really like the new editing style, and the video quality has greatly improved. Really nice video, keep it up! :)
I almost have 1000 hours in this game but probably only about 20 minutes on Spy because I'm not totally sure how to play him so, thanks for this. This video explains a lot of things better than most Spy tutorials out there.
If you want more in-depth info than this video provides, the classic "godfather spy" TF2Slurgi has some really good videos that are still very relevant today about some basic stabs and spy psychology. I believe Moo has some tuts and as briefly mentioned in the video, CulRudDud. The latter having *very* in-depth videos explaining how *everything* works. Hope this is helpful and you get better at spying!
@@destrkn spychology*
Nice work very enjoyable video
Ive been waiting for so long for spytalk
Damn dude that video was amazing! The jokes, visual indication for key ideas, and how each topic flowed seamlessly into the next blew me away.
A video this funny, informative, and well edited is rarer than a Saharan Spy nowadays.
I've been playing alot of spy recently, and you covered alot, from the basics to the more meta game stuff where you are in people's heads. I have a few thousand hours and spy is somewhere in the middle in terms of hours played. I will say that, although matadoring and corner stabbing is second nature, and there are some great maps for dropstabbing, I still am not good at stair stabbing and have never hit a surfstab! So there's more stabbing to be had.. I also think that spy hones my game sense and joking abilities better than any other class.
Happy stabbing, and great video :)
I should probably add that when hiding in a checked corner don't hide in the first corner they check. Good players will double back and check the first corner in case you moved
I love the briefcase opening up outro, great work on the video man :)
Spy got nerfed so much that NERF sued him.
Excellent! The exceeding amount of work absolutely shows and it is very, very greatly appretiated. It always makes my day when I watch a video of such great quality with so much effort put into it. Were there any severe difficulties you faced during production?
You know, as a person who doesn't play spy (I mean that, I have no idea how) I want to say that this has definitely helped me understand how spy players do what they do, and how I should play around that.
That intro with TRON : Legacy's melody was a train of nostalgia, nice detail even if it has nothing to do with TF2
17:21 I love being the second spy in that scenario so much because I know how it feels to be the guy who found the first spy
The feeling of being backstabbed when you are staring right at the only enemy spy you THOUGHT was there is so heartbreaking and I live for it
We have been tricked, we have been backstabbed, and quite possibly, BAMBOOZLED
Second spy, is the worst idea ever.
"This video may seem redundant, but you may be surprised how many people dont know the fundementals of a backstab"
This video is like it was made for me
Edit: 2:14 I wondered why this kept happening! I always thought that if you were behind someone, you could instantly stab, and I kept running into this issue. Gotta work on reducing lag ig
Edit 2: This first 6 minutes of this video have already helped me identify where I'm going wrong or some of the issues I'm facing when I pick Spy. Incredibly helpful, and definitely worth all the effort you put in!
It’s always nice to see ur videos every once in a while, there’s always a unique style to ur edits and asmr-esque voice
0:35 if everything is made by you, then you are quite literally a god gamer
Me a Pyro main watching this video
"Know your enemy and know yourself"
-Sun Tzu
As a pyro main, I can confirm that the revolver is an amazing deterrent.
Cringe pyro
I agree, as a Pyro and Medic main
This is maybe the detailed and most well explained advice ive seen for spy so far
This has helped me out immensely
i decided to rewatch this video, the amount of quality and polish that this video has is astounding, i also really enjoyed the soundtrack, nice job.
3:12 "because I know there's a spy and I need to stay vigilante" is what I would say if I were that soldier turning around then
As someone who isn't a spy I can easily explain why we randomly turn around
It's to not get stabbed by you sneaky motherfu-
As soon as you started talking about using knockback for stairstabs, my WHOLE COMPUTER BLUE SCREENED.
Clearly spy is the strongest class.
Exactly 2 years later this video is still a masterpiece
Wait is there music from Tron in your intro
YES DAFT PUNK MUSIC IS GOD
@@aadishankar575 Hell yeah
First
god damn it
That Tron: Legacy inspired music in the beginning hit me hard
this video is amazingly well made! as much as spy gets on my nerves I still learnt so much and on top of that the video was super entertaining which I feel a lot of content creators forget when making tutorials and stuff like this. definitely the best tf guide I’ve seen full stop
3:17 That's weird, seeing a reference to a bad, german porn in the TF2 chat of a content creator that does englich-voiced content...strange times indeed.
Aside from that, your narrations are always nice to listen to, so count me entertained.
as a spy main i approve of 100% of this video, nice job
Intro Music: That feeling when Tron, Right Behind You, and getting a new item in Legend of Zelda
some of the most informative and useful videos from this guy. some of the most quality as well
To the point, clear as day, a very nice voice and even humour. Very well done.
7:17 best description of matador. Thank you
THANK YOU so much for for making this video. It's so relatable doing a failstab or happening a butterknife moment and you think "why this happens to me?". We think of that because 99% of TF2 UA-camrs always describe spy as an "untouched god who can kill everyone easily".
I was taking a drink when this video started playing and the intro's sudden pickup in sound made me almost choke to death on it. 10/10 would let that happen again
the best part of spy is the awkward stares you get when you failstab
Best spy video that i ever watched...makes me want to play spy more!! So many tricks unraveled in such exquisite ways!
15:32 "a scout can run up to you and meatshot you from behind"
amazing wording
The song at the start gave me so much nostalgia to tron legacy
Love the tron melody at the beginning, great video!
Some of my favorite medic moments is catching a spy trying to go for a stairstab, backing up and critting them with the ubersaw when they land in front of me
This video reminds me of the "How it feels to play" series by LazyPurple. Great work, subscribed!
This is a really good video! Super high quality, love it man!
Finally I watch this. Good vid mate! I hope to see more stuff like this in the future!
you are absolutely right, the dopamine surge when doing a backstap is amazing, good video:)
Props! I like how smug your spy was at the end :)
I subscribed. Absolutely fantastic content, it's a crime that you don't have more subs.
what a great video! this makes me wanna practise trickstabs and spy gameplay in general.
That cover for Aerodynamic sounds pretty good, I'd like to hear it out of the background.
..Also this taught me a fat load about how to knife good.
Thank you, I will be uploading all my self-made music from this video in about a week :)
This channel is incredible, thank you!
This video is so good. Helpful information put together concisely and in an entertaining way. Beautiful editing as well. I don't even play spy but I love your videos
I can't even say how much I love the spy theme mixed with the tron legacy theme. It's one of the few times I've looked through a sizeable portion of the comment section and haven't seen anyone compliment this specific mix, so I just wanted to say that you did an insanely well job with it
Your channel is criminally underrated. The production quality rivals the biggest names of TFTubers and the knowledge presented is both incredibly useful to newbies in explaining the basic concepts of backstabs and a tool for those dedicating themselves to improving as spy to understand the more intrinsic aspects of a backstab. I hope you get the recognition that you very much deserve.
Love these videos! I can always expect the quality to be great.
Love the music used. Very good and thorough video.
A friend who I've recently gotten into TF2 is an up and coming spy main. I recommended your videos to him, and I think it's helped him gain some game sense
I just want to say that love the visual part of the video and the preview is so great it deserves to be a poster
As someone who's been trying to get into playing spy more this is going to help me so much thank you
I can't explain how much I love this video