What D&D Alignment is Vegeta? (Dragonball Z)

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  • @TheLoadingCrew
    @TheLoadingCrew  3 роки тому +190

    big thank you to Masako X for letting us use his art in our dnd documents!

    • @generaljimmies3429
      @generaljimmies3429 3 роки тому +6

      6:11 The text says him but the voice says her?
      Thought we wouldn't catch that Team Four Star reference?

    • @juliushaahrkringelbach6744
      @juliushaahrkringelbach6744 3 роки тому +1

      Love masakox

    • @Lobomaru02
      @Lobomaru02 3 роки тому +1

      I can't get the Teespring version to let me check out the bundle. What gives?

    • @SilverDungeoneer
      @SilverDungeoneer 3 роки тому +1

      *Hypersonic Lion Tamer not Chamber

    • @TheHDNGamer
      @TheHDNGamer 3 роки тому

      Oml ngl I love that you use TFS references, it's the best

  • @ukkothedwarf1259
    @ukkothedwarf1259 3 роки тому +154

    When vegeta named the 2 wishes in the kid buu fight he never expected to be resurrected himself as he was evil at the time of the tournament, making the deed truly selfless

  • @minedantaken1684
    @minedantaken1684 3 роки тому +523

    A video on frieza would just be "chaotic evil", "lawful evil" and "neutral evil" repeated for 10 minutes. Edit: also a lot of nat 20 scenes

    • @Kornzz555666
      @Kornzz555666 3 роки тому +16

      Some neutral as well sprinkled in

    • @ryanjones_rheios
      @ryanjones_rheios 3 роки тому +38

      No, Frieza's purely Chaotic Evil. He believes might makes right, has no regard for life, and is in no way dedicated to his "empire" or his title as "emperor" ouside his own arrogance. Incidentally that describes almost any Demon Lord. That's not to say he can't act out of that alignment, nobody's unmaleable, just that he's pretty consistent in spitting at anyone else's claim to authority unless they can kill him. (And even then he plotted to backstab Beerus or double backstab other foes. He changes sides as is convenient)

    • @ryanjones_rheios
      @ryanjones_rheios 3 роки тому +7

      @@TheUltimateMachineGod True. If anything each arc has been more characterizing. His decisions to train and even his work while in hell are very characterizing for him. And we know a weird amount about his family.

    • @cloudychaos475
      @cloudychaos475 3 роки тому +6

      1 or 2 good actions in the T.O.P as well but at most they'd put him at chaotic neutral, he's still an evil bastard and I love him (no homo)

    • @ryanjones_rheios
      @ryanjones_rheios 3 роки тому +7

      @@cloudychaos475 Eh, those "good" actions were almost entirely products of selfishness. The Great Sphere D&D cosmology (the only default assumption one can fairly make when doing these things) may not care a lot about intent but it does factor in. For evil more than for good, usually, it seems. (Which incidentally is why there are more evil people than good and probably more neutral people than either.)

  • @Chaosdaniel
    @Chaosdaniel 3 роки тому +229

    At any point Vegeta said -"Because IM FUCKING EVIL", but then evolve to be -"Pure, unadultered Badass", and finally -"I AM THE HYPE"

  • @lietz13
    @lietz13 3 роки тому +66

    "You left Vegeta with Apool?! Apool couldn't handle a shot a raspberry schnapps, much less Vegeta!"

    • @JSHADOWM
      @JSHADOWM 3 роки тому +1

      Appaule, it decomverts into Apple. all of freeza's henchmen are fruits if we discount the saiyans and ginyu force.
      Zarbon? Pomelo (in japanese)
      Dodoria? Durian.
      Cui? Kiwi.
      this is the reason why i call the Tree of Might Saiyan Tullece instead of Turles. its supposed to be Lettuce.

  • @ryuudraco592
    @ryuudraco592 3 роки тому +153

    "this video is sponsored by me" that's cute

  • @borisbutterscotch9482
    @borisbutterscotch9482 3 роки тому +142

    14:00 "Final Attack - 685 (yes really)" Is probably the single best portrayal of just how ridiculously overkill the final flash is.

  • @madengineerkyouma
    @madengineerkyouma 3 роки тому +78

    The Knight at the center of the chart fits so well. Literally there couldn't be a more neutral character, he has no mind to think, no will to break.

    • @goldenpaladin
      @goldenpaladin 2 роки тому +3

      whis he will literally train you if you eather have potential in becoming a destroyer or give him something good

  • @MrRemicas
    @MrRemicas 3 роки тому +235

    "He attacks Dodoria and stabs *her* in the back"
    Wait, is that the Abridged version?

    • @TheLoadingCrew
      @TheLoadingCrew  3 роки тому +76

      :)

    • @Arkalidor
      @Arkalidor 3 роки тому +46

      The abridged version contains A LOT of not-obvious canonical nuggets.

    • @TheAustralianMapper5378
      @TheAustralianMapper5378 3 роки тому +25

      She was the most gorgeous women on her planet, until Freeza blew it up.

    • @yoyoman195
      @yoyoman195 3 роки тому +11

      Now all u can think of is the "I have a thicc, meaty..." line

    • @GusOmega
      @GusOmega 3 роки тому +10

      In the Hungarian dub, Dodoria is a woman, albeit with a very deep voice.
      In the Portuguese dub, Dodoria sings opera.
      In the Greek dub, Dodoria is a woman.

  • @leaf1469
    @leaf1469 3 роки тому +24

    That Dedoria joke was subtle, but I like it. TFS is hilarious and we will quote whatever they say.

  • @KyleAlexJohn
    @KyleAlexJohn 3 роки тому +32

    See, I feel like Vegeta asks an interesting question about alignment; do chaotic actions based off of a consistent moral code count as lawful or chaotic?
    Vegeta does go back and forth a bit, however his character and actions always center around his pride, if that wasn't obvious. He keeps his word because of pride, he takes revenge because of pride, he teams up with and kills people only dependent on how it affects his motives. Arguably, nothing Vegeta does is really random, it's intentionally performed to better his chances down the road...so idk. I think Vegeta is pretty much Lawful Evil up until the Cell/Buu saga, where he slowly becomes more Lawful Neutral.

    • @truekurayami
      @truekurayami 3 роки тому +2

      The one thing to remember about Chaos vs Order which most people have turned into Chaotic vs Lawful is really Change Vs Stagnation. Pure Order aka a Pure Lawful nature is unchanging unbending, it doesn't allow for growth. A system we generally see as an Orderly/Lawful state is the day night cycle. This though is correct in the cycle doesn't change but there is that hidden element of Chaos/change that allows day to become night and vise versa. There are examples going the other way where seemingly random/chaotic events will always result in the same way because of that orderly/lawful element hidden in the end result that isn't supposed to change. Just look at Main Characters for Shonen Anime/Manga the events and overall story are different for each character but the end result is they are the strongest being of their story and overwhelmingly loved by the world they are in.
      In short you shouldn't look at the end result as much as if the Chaotic aspect is the hidden or main aspect of the action.

    • @Sir-Reborn
      @Sir-Reborn 7 місяців тому

      I think fundementally changing his moral code, or changing his opinions fundementally is a "chaotic" catagory. Part of what chaotic symbolizes is "unexpected, wild, selfish, change "
      So given that he started in chaotic neutral, I think this is perfectly fine

  • @geminimaxxim
    @geminimaxxim 3 роки тому +10

    Shoutouts to Vegeta for making a full 180 degree swing on the alignment wheel and being a pure badass the whole way

  • @ANimouz
    @ANimouz 3 роки тому +12

    Nice vid. Although a small mistake on 17:00. Vegeta HAD the ability to become SSJ2. But even that wasn't enough to compete with the level of Gokus SSJ2. That was verified by guides and also the fact that Vegeta was 100% confident he could defeat Dabura when SSJ2 Gohan couldn't.
    Also going by story, Vegeta didn't accept Babidis amp/mind control fully. It was mostly an excuse to go wild and disregard everything so he could have 1 final good match with Goku. The whole thing was a mid-life crisis from our guy Vegeta.

  • @kaijukoopa1248
    @kaijukoopa1248 3 роки тому +12

    "you are no longer dealing with an ordinary saiyan..."

  • @paulhiggins6433
    @paulhiggins6433 2 роки тому +12

    I loved the DBZA references throughout the video. Fantastically done. Didn't overplay them at all and was able to throw one out when least expected. And yes, thanks to DBZA, I will forever think of Dodoria as a girl.

  • @Alpha121198
    @Alpha121198 3 роки тому +75

    As an amazing girl once told the audience, Pocket Sand is a legitimate strategy.

    • @aienma6660
      @aienma6660 3 роки тому

      Same for a Pocket Snack

    • @dubuyajay9964
      @dubuyajay9964 3 роки тому

      Who?

    • @deonjoyner960
      @deonjoyner960 3 роки тому

      Who?

    • @jekblom123
      @jekblom123 3 роки тому

      and that was?

    • @Alpha121198
      @Alpha121198 3 роки тому +4

      @@jekblom123 That sad thing is I genuinely can’t remember, I do remember she said that in response to how she won a bet against her best friend in a game of… I think basket ball? Something along the lines of;
      “You only won because you cheated.”
      “HEY POCKET SAND IS A LEGITIMATE STRATEGY.”
      And it stuck with me.

  • @harunocaleon4690
    @harunocaleon4690 3 роки тому +29

    I love how this shows Vegeta character evolution. From Chaotic Evil to Lawful Good. He is truly the best character.

    • @ZigealFaust
      @ZigealFaust 3 роки тому +4

      He legit went from Bandit King to Flawed Arthurian Knight.
      That's a hell of a ride.

    • @ryanclemons1
      @ryanclemons1 Рік тому +1

      did you even watch the video?

  • @borisbutterscotch9482
    @borisbutterscotch9482 3 роки тому +23

    Pre watching prediction time! I think he's gonna start out as lawful or neutral evil, by the end of the Freeza saga and during the Cell saga, he's gonna be a chaotic neutral, and by the time Buu is over with, he'll be chaotic good.

    • @gew393
      @gew393 3 роки тому +5

      Pretty close actually

  • @supremefankai5480
    @supremefankai5480 3 роки тому +17

    I love it how the super Saiyan you use is Masakox's good boy Raditz.
    Nice cross promotion.

    • @mastertadakatsu
      @mastertadakatsu 3 роки тому

      Too bad the Pathfinder 2e Cover only has SSJ Raditz. Love that the DnD 5e conversation has the Ranch Fusions.

  • @bigboynow7936
    @bigboynow7936 3 роки тому +23

    He refered to Dodoria as her

    • @brandonhall7498
      @brandonhall7498 3 роки тому +2

      DBZ abridged reference?

    • @LucarioDoT
      @LucarioDoT 3 роки тому +1

      @@brandonhall7498 I believe I read that Dodoria was referred to as female in one of the dubs.
      Edit: Greek dub

    • @LeviathanTamer31
      @LeviathanTamer31 3 роки тому +2

      There were so many DBZA references. That was definitely one of them.

    • @bigboynow7936
      @bigboynow7936 3 роки тому

      @@LucarioDoT did not know that good fact pal

  • @zuzegui
    @zuzegui 3 роки тому +4

    22:14 I would just like to say you kinda undersold a really Nobel moment for Vegi.
    When he was revived after Namek he felt no remorse for his actions but he specifically asked for the lives to be spared from the day of the tournament. He killed thousands and that for once rested on his conscience

  • @weirdguy1495
    @weirdguy1495 3 роки тому +8

    Frieza's pretty much going to be super Neutral Evil since he keeps flip-flopping between lawful and chaotic actions throughout his screentime.

  • @johnhalo8726
    @johnhalo8726 3 роки тому +4

    This video just reminded me why Vegeta my absolute favorite character in Dragonball and why he desperately needs the spotlight

  • @bluekaiser7073
    @bluekaiser7073 3 роки тому +45

    Yeah, Vegeta is an excellent character.
    I hope we’ll see Freeza’s alignement even if he is as chaotic evil as Dio, so here a comment for the youtube algorithm to help the goal!

    • @jaketheberge1970
      @jaketheberge1970 3 роки тому +1

      Dbs may shift him a bit away from chaotic evil. He was a team player and helps save their universe. He is still not a good guy but he may qualify as lawful evil instead. I mean he does run a huge space empire and usually only kills for failures or practicality. So maybe he could even start off as lawful evil.

    • @ryuudraco592
      @ryuudraco592 3 роки тому

      @@jaketheberge1970 I feel like it depends. Remember freeza is only a team player for 3 reasons
      1: because if they lose their all dead [neutral or lawful neutral]
      2: he wants to be brought back to life [chaotic neutral]
      3: to eradicate the gods/become stronger than them [chaotic evil]
      2 are chaotic and 2 are neutral so at best him being a team player is chaotic neutral. I admit I haven't watched all of super (I just keep putting it off for really no reason) but overall I don't see the tournament of power would give him a significant change just for being a team player. Heck he literally beats people with an inch of their life saying "their still alive when I push them off and I'm not responsible for them dying outside of battle" yeah he's a "team player" but only as much as he needs to be. Even helping Gohan, had gohan not caught on freeza would totally send him over the edge

    • @jaketheberge1970
      @jaketheberge1970 3 роки тому +1

      @@ryuudraco592 Have you seen the new Broly movie yet? SPOILERS AND ITS REALLY GOOD GO WATCH IF YOU HAVEN'T.
      It takes place after the TOP. Frieza is portrayed differently than in the past. He seems to have grown somewhat. He looks past the fact tha Broly is a Saiyan (a race he has had a near racist hatred for to the point of genocide) and recognizes his potential instead of just killing him. Compared to DBZ Frieza who treated Vegeta and his crew like lower lifeforms, just more canon fodder for his army. Also in Broly he treats his minions with much more restraint. At one point he is made fun of by one of his crew and he shrugs it off. He also seems to have changed his view on immortality after his time in hell (I think he said that after his time there immortality no longer holds any appeal). Instead of wanting to butcher an entire race just to live forever all he seems to want now is to wish to be taller. He does murder someone as "motivation" but you know baby steps.

    • @ryuudraco592
      @ryuudraco592 3 роки тому +1

      @@jaketheberge1970 no I haven't. I'm going to watch it after tof. So if that's the case then it probably is possible for him to go to lawful evil depending how much of a code he fallows

    • @samuelbattershell3413
      @samuelbattershell3413 3 роки тому

      Frieza is more of a NE character, Cold and Cooler are Lawful Evil

  • @benjaminbierley2074
    @benjaminbierley2074 2 роки тому +1

    the line "My heart is pure...pure...unadulterated...badass" works so much better.

  • @kacperwojas4293
    @kacperwojas4293 3 роки тому +10

    7:50
    I think that joshscorchers "yeet" is a damn meme at this point

    • @ZeroRoyale
      @ZeroRoyale 3 роки тому

      Wait that was from Josh?

    • @kacperwojas4293
      @kacperwojas4293 3 роки тому

      @@ZeroRoyale Yes. Since Kefka video where Josh said it it's being used in others

  • @vento3554
    @vento3554 3 роки тому +10

    I hope the moro arc gets animated before you do super vegeta, I think it was great for his character.

    • @leoneyamada5408
      @leoneyamada5408 3 роки тому

      i mean spoilers..... but not really because the manga is the only dragon ball stuff we are getting for a looooong time so not really spoilers but spoilers because its not animated yet...... but yes it does wonders for him. he is going to become g.o.d vegeta and im thinking purple hair vegeta will just look really nice. but yes he is atoning for his race and is going to become the best person he could be while also growing in power way more then anyone can be even if the baddy is way stronger (for now) ALSO THE FACT HE CAN USE HAKAI WITHOUT EVEN KNOWING WHAT IT IS IS BULLSHIT. his wish was to make him as strong as he could grow by condensing his years of life down, aka he abused the fast forward button from the movie click. and that is how strong he would have been if he lived his whole life PERFECTLY so how in the fuck did he get hakai? the wish didnt grant him the skills he could have learned or else he would also know perfect ui and kioken and kamehameha and galick gun and final flash and spirit bomb and kai kai and instant movement and how to heal people and how to use god ki and solar flare and EVERY SKILL WE EVER SEE IN DRAGON BALL EVER, do you see why the fact he uses hakai is bullshit yet? there is NO REASON for him to be able to use that and at that level, but lets say the wish dragon gave him a little bonus for no reason HE STILL SHOULDNT BE ABLE TO DO THAT WITHOUT KNOWING EVERY OTHER SKILL EVER. meaning granola or cereal or whatever the fuck his name is IS MORE OF A SELL OUT THEN EVEN CELL. everyone keeps going on and on about how cool he is, future trunks is cooler for being a cool swordsman, frieza is a cooler villain then him, hell even zamasu used the dragon balls to become stronger better then he did (wishing to be immortal is by definition way better then simply wishing for all your years of life away for strength because if your immortal you an spend forever training to get stronger rather then being stronger and then dying almost right after.... HE EVEN KNOWS THAT HE COULD WISH TO BE IMMORTAL AND THEN DO THIS WISH AND IT WOULD HAVE BEEN INFINITELY BETTER THEN WASTING HIS LIFE. he is stupid for making that wish, because the effects of that wish would have been multiplied infinitely by wishing to be immortal FIRST (the wish was trade all the years of your life for power so if you have ALL of the years then you can just grow FOREVER) this guy is so stupid in my eyes and i hate everything about him but his looks

  • @darkherculeskabuterimon7203
    @darkherculeskabuterimon7203 3 роки тому +8

    Ooh, new wheel! Let's see...
    LG: Artoria Pendragon (Saber)
    NG: Lucinia
    CG: Son Goku/Kakarot
    LN: Death the Kid
    TN: The Knight
    CN: The Kenpachi from Zaraki
    LE: Alastor
    NE: Jafar
    CE: Majora's Mask

  • @beaushorkey9313
    @beaushorkey9313 3 роки тому +5

    This is the first video of yours that showed up on my recommendations in 5 months.

  • @valiensr1037
    @valiensr1037 3 роки тому +2

    I’d also like to point out that Nappa suggests they use their wish to bring back Nappa, but Vegeta shuts it down, calling Raditz a useless weakling

  • @FLAMETHROWER299
    @FLAMETHROWER299 14 днів тому

    Vegeta is a fascinating character becuase throughout the entirety of dragon ball z, he is never a good person until the very end when vegeta realizes his pride is what caused him nearly all of his problems, however, what is even more fascinating, is that his weakness, that pride, also was the drive that gave him the greatest forms of growth as a person that he though he wanted to be, in the namek saga, how vegetas first act of good in the series is begging goku to take down frieza, not only for himself, but for the entire saiyan race, i declared this a lawful good action because this is the first time in his life that vegeta isnt just speaking for himself but for the heritage of his people, vegeta is a character thats takes alot of pride in his title as prince, but he wears it as a symbol of superiority and not his responsibility, have you noticed that the closer vegeta is to death, the better a person he becomes, when frieza killed him, he begged for closure for his people, when cell slapped him, he apologized to gohan by name, and when majin buu was attacking, he overcame literal magical brainwashing to defend his home, now this isnt to say that vegeta would've become good on his own, the saiyans as a culture were mostly chaotic evil, in their history they were notorious for subjagating and exterminating other civilizations, however when presented with a greater threat and a greater tyrant than even his own father, vegeta as the leader of this evil group of people, gained something that saiyans desperately needed "perspective" thanks to vegetas life of growing up as a slave, he understood the subjugation that his people started forcing unto others, and it turned him into a cold, bitter, prideful person, who could only feel good when he was imposing his strength on others, its the classic bully syndrom, many times these classic bullies have immense confidence in themselves, but only when they can belittle others, but, there is a good chance that the environment they grew up in, forged their perception on relationships, this is pretty tragically common actually, toxic people growing up in abusive situations will oftenly sabotage perfectly healthy relationships, like vegeta did because they're scared of the calm that they're finding, while vegetas motivation to betray his family was more for physical fitness, i guess, its kind of scary how realistic and how long his transformation into a good person took, even during that time after cell, vegeta isnt good, he was just complacent, vegetas growth as a person was the most natural and i would argue toriyamas greatest achievement as a writer

  • @WolfBoy-om6dw
    @WolfBoy-om6dw 3 роки тому +2

    Fantastic video Stuart good job

  • @mareofstature
    @mareofstature 3 роки тому +24

    Calling it now, Frieza-Lawful evil

    • @spawn316
      @spawn316 3 роки тому +10

      i'd say closer to true evil just because he has just as many chaotic outbursts and decisively planned evil acts

  • @digunder14
    @digunder14 Рік тому

    got to love that when he actually tries pure pride lets him retain control with the power

  • @somethingsomethingfaum324
    @somethingsomethingfaum324 3 роки тому +1

    Your choice, but I personally think GT Vegeta would be more interesting to cover. His growth is far more exact to how it should be, instead of a reversion to constantly saying he needs to beat Goku, and him being needlessly over confident. Which, while is Vegeta normally, he also doesn't seem to get that he's outmatched. A lesson he learned and put forth in the Buu Saga, except for his outbursts towards Buuhan.
    Meanwhile, GT Vegeta typically understands his situations and fights for what he realistically should in that line of events. His family and Earth, not the sake of proving he's the best, but aiming to better himself.

  • @artofwar54321
    @artofwar54321 3 роки тому +2

    My hype level for this video is over 9000! 👍

  • @jvjv8093
    @jvjv8093 3 роки тому

    2 months later and it's half-way there. You're slowly getting recommended and thrown into the algorith. Keep going!

  • @depressedhamburger4880
    @depressedhamburger4880 3 роки тому

    this makes me wanna rewatch dragon ball

  • @morallygary9098
    @morallygary9098 2 роки тому

    I love how the slip about Dadoria absolutely came from watching dbz abridged.

  • @mobgabriel1767
    @mobgabriel1767 4 дні тому

    "pure evil to the core"
    *looks up alignement chart
    insert here anakin's "LIAR!" quote

  • @parzival-bo
    @parzival-bo 3 роки тому +14

    So, if we ever do other DB characters...I'd personally like to see one on the Androids. 17 specifically, though 18 and 16 are also perfectly valid.

    • @dimielgo2267
      @dimielgo2267 3 роки тому +1

      17 would probably be neutral evil, then neutral, then lawful neutral.

    • @brandonlyon730
      @brandonlyon730 Рік тому +1

      Depends which timeline, there basically completely people in the different timelines.

    • @gamester512
      @gamester512 Рік тому

      @@brandonlyon730 The Future Androids would both be purely Chaotic Evil. There's not much deviation from that with them, as even on those occasions that they allowed Gohan & Trunks to escape, they did so more because it meant they could have more "fun" fighting them later than out of any sense of compassion, mercy, or altruism.
      But, with the "present" androids, I would actually argue that they would both start off as True Neutral with a heavy leaning towards Chaotic Neutral, as the *only* reason they are even after Goku in the first place is because they were *programmed* to hunt him down and kill him (which, in a sense, could be seen or treated as a form of brainwashing), so it's something they have very little control over. But other than that, all three of them are relatively chill and laid-back, and they don't really engage in wanton slaughter and destruction (a great example of this would be 17's reaction to Imperfect Cell blasting a hole through Piccolo's chest, he's outraged and disgusted by that action, which is a strong indication of 17's strong moral compass).
      Even 16 would probably start off as Lawful Neutral, as he's initially just a machine bound by his programming, only for him to later be freed from that programming by Bulma, at which point he would be closer to being Lawful Good considering his willingness to sacrifice himself to both give Gohan the push he needed to achieve Super Saiyan 2 and to protect the Earth.
      17 & 18 would probably be True Neutral leaning towards Chaotic Neutral considering the fact that their very first action upon being activated by Gero was to kill him and destroy the remote that could de-activate them (a Chaotic and potentially Good act). Plus, even once the Androids got the better of the Z Fighters in battle and had ample opportunity to just kill them all, they chose *not* to do so and just let them be (albeit with Vegeta having suffered a broken arm and Trunks having lost his sword)....not to mention 18 then going on to kiss Krillin on the cheek before she left, all because they had no real quarrel with the Z Fighters as a whole.
      Plus, when Piccolo (after fusing with Kami) later confronts 17, the Androids keep their word about 16 & 18 not interfering, and 17 even offers Piccolo a chance to leave without a fight.
      And then after the Cell saga is over, 17 of course is not shown again until Super, but I would argue that as of the Buu saga 18 would now be either Chaotic Neutral with a strong lean towards Chaotic Good or just outright Chaotic Good, as despite her desire for money, she is still a loving wife to Krillin and an equally loving mother to Marron. So even her desire for wealth could still be seen as 18 simply wanting to ensure that her family would be well cared and provided for.

  • @Oxurus
    @Oxurus 2 роки тому +2

    I love the DBZA references lol.

  • @JazzOfTheStinson
    @JazzOfTheStinson 3 роки тому +3

    Honestly you deserve more viewers and subscribers. I was honestly surprised when I looked at your subscriber/view count. You definitely put a lot of quality into your work.

    • @TheLoadingCrew
      @TheLoadingCrew  3 роки тому +2

      I appreciate that. People just don't really care about alignment anymore sadly /shrug
      when I move onto something else i'm sure it will do well. there are lots of video essays I want to do in the future that will be more fun for me and everyone else involved I think

    • @JazzOfTheStinson
      @JazzOfTheStinson 3 роки тому +1

      @@TheLoadingCrew I think it's more important than most people think. I think looking at your past actions and quantifying them as good or bad is very fun way of deciding future actions and makes you seem like a much more consistent character. I tried to use the way you look at Alignment to quantify my characters

    • @TheLoadingCrew
      @TheLoadingCrew  3 роки тому

      if you wanna support us check out our pokemon dnd campaign :) it's really good. although you might want to watch the recap videos to skip the first 200 episodes

  • @Kiaxiou
    @Kiaxiou 3 роки тому

    I saw what you did there with the name of the hyperbolic Time chamber there lol, also Vegeta I swear a ton of us love that character

  • @jeffmanbrawler
    @jeffmanbrawler 3 роки тому

    Actually hella excited for this

  • @savemgs
    @savemgs 3 роки тому

    Love the video.

  • @TheOneWhoReportsForDuty
    @TheOneWhoReportsForDuty 3 роки тому +6

    Bring on the Super! Let’s all get to it, I’d like to see how he develops from his original ailment in Z to Super
    Edit: Also this video makes me want to rewatch Dragon Ball Z Kai, it was the one that I watched as a kid

  • @sarahreynolds1958
    @sarahreynolds1958 3 роки тому +1

    Can we just sit here a moment, and appreciate the fact that that last fight with Buu is the first time that the Spirit bomb actually worked?

  • @p.a.w.sthetravelinggamer6750
    @p.a.w.sthetravelinggamer6750 3 роки тому

    How in the actual fuck do you have less than 50k subs? Your alignment videos are fantastic. Honestly if you focused those (one a week or something) you'd blow up hardcore.

  • @TheBioshocksnake
    @TheBioshocksnake 3 роки тому

    This channel is gonna go big, mark my words.

    • @TheLoadingCrew
      @TheLoadingCrew  3 роки тому +2

      we've been pretty hot these last few days...if tomorrow's video does well...I think we're gonna go somewhere O.O

  • @malyssaryan1987
    @malyssaryan1987 3 роки тому +2

    The biggest problem with Vegeta's sacrifice play is that he did it in such a big AOE. This spread the damage in all the wrong directions. If it had been a beam, or even just a front cone, it might have actually worked.
    Also he died because he fed his life force into the blast. Like Tien did against Semi-perfect Cell, or Roshi does later in Super.

  • @JustARandomMexican
    @JustARandomMexican 3 роки тому

    First video and subbed for Pathfinder gang. Algorithm brought me here and I feel like this channel is going to pop off before long here.

  • @adrianlangen6700
    @adrianlangen6700 3 роки тому +1

    THAT´S IT, ACTIVATING THE BELL! The fact that I missed the premiere of this is a cardinal sin.

  • @cdesigner9178
    @cdesigner9178 2 роки тому

    For the part where you showed a clip and said that it is subjective (obviously), you missed a PERFECT opportunity for a "B*tch, I'm adorable" moment form DBZ Abridged.

  • @thicciroh
    @thicciroh Рік тому

    It took about a year but I’m ready for the freeza video😇

  • @Erykthebat
    @Erykthebat 3 роки тому

    My precious modeling career !

  • @mattrare4459
    @mattrare4459 2 роки тому

    Oh boy, can't wait for that Frieza alignment:D

  • @juliushaahrkringelbach6744
    @juliushaahrkringelbach6744 3 роки тому

    One of the best series

  • @RayAkuma
    @RayAkuma 2 роки тому

    13:35
    Love the TFS reference

  • @aaronblygh4719
    @aaronblygh4719 3 роки тому +17

    You should do what alignment is DBZA Vagita next

    • @rompevuevitos222
      @rompevuevitos222 3 роки тому +1

      Fajita?

    • @parzival-bo
      @parzival-bo 3 роки тому +4

      Chaotic Evil for most of it, possibly Chaotic Neutral by the very end.

    • @aaronblygh4719
      @aaronblygh4719 3 роки тому

      @@rompevuevitos222 Good ol' Vegie?

    • @aaronblygh4719
      @aaronblygh4719 3 роки тому

      @@parzival-bo Yeah that's about right

    • @rompevuevitos222
      @rompevuevitos222 3 роки тому

      @@aaronblygh4719 I still don't know how they fuck crops

  • @jvjv8093
    @jvjv8093 3 роки тому

    This video needs more views. Comment for algorithm.

  • @Geninacra
    @Geninacra 3 роки тому +2

    If you want, you could do a "side by side" Dragon Ball Z and Dragon Ball TFS abridge.
    It's the same story but... with some "changes" that, I think make the story more streamlime and sensible.

  • @deonjoyner960
    @deonjoyner960 3 роки тому

    Love the MasakoX reference. ❤

  • @SaturnineXTS
    @SaturnineXTS 7 місяців тому

    One thing - Babidi's spell didn't grant Vegeta SSj2, it just gave him a boost in power that put him on par with Goku. Previously he was inferior in equivalent forms.

  • @UnlimitedRadioButNoSoap
    @UnlimitedRadioButNoSoap 3 роки тому +7

    "arguably had the greatest and most consistent character development"
    me, a dragon ball dissection enjoyer:🙃

  • @movespammerguyteam7colors
    @movespammerguyteam7colors 2 роки тому

    Look the term “CHAOTIC STUPID” seems to fit Vegeta in the Cell and Buu sagas. He eventually comes to terms with his situation and then the Super series begins almost right after the end of Buu, he overall is a better person than he was but he still has his mean streak.

  • @Netherwolf6100
    @Netherwolf6100 Рік тому +1

    Been watching a lot of Dragonball lately and I think I came to a realization. In the Dragonball World, Earth has become a Perfect Utopia. *(Until Super
    Retconned everything)*
    Its canon that at the end of Z, during the final fight with Pure Kid Buu, Vegeta made a wish that only revives "Good" people, which is why even Goku is shocked that Vegeta was brought back to life, thus meaning he changed alignment over the course of the series, obviously. But what this also implies is that, every criminal or evil person who truly committed acts of wrongdoing and enjoyed doing so, are now dead and have remained dead. Every thief, murderer, stalker, rapist, serial killer, every person in every prison that wasn't wrongfully incriminated, are dead and have remained dead ever since. That basically means..... Dragonball's Earth is almost entirely pure and completely devoid of any evil people.............

  • @mAcChaosCh
    @mAcChaosCh 3 роки тому +2

    This is an amazing concept! You should do more characters, like Goku. I want to say I think this ranking is a bit off though, since you're weighing every act the same. Vegeta massacring a town moves him just as move as him saying something nice to Krillin.

  • @atomicq3603
    @atomicq3603 3 роки тому

    This is the first video I've watched in a while, interesting that you changed the alignment character thing. Is it cause no one could get some of the characters? Cause these characters seem a lot more recognizable.

  • @rehmanmir7865
    @rehmanmir7865 3 роки тому

    I found your circle of alignments accurate but uhh… kind of comical lol, I love seeing Jafar up with a bunch of anime people

  • @DundG
    @DundG 3 роки тому

    Vegeta looks at true neutral: "You come closer, and I punch your face away!"

  • @jnascimento7023
    @jnascimento7023 Рік тому

    Honestly Vegeta gotta be one of my favorite character in all shounens
    not only for nostalgia sake about the series as a whole
    But for its growing and ever changing character... except for super where the writers basically decided lets just make him a coal copy of the buu saga

  • @Kakaragi
    @Kakaragi 3 роки тому +1

    16:59 actually, Vegeta attained Ssj2 before the Buu saga

  • @dandragon8595
    @dandragon8595 3 роки тому +1

    Great video! However one misnomer is the part where you said Vegeta becomes Majin and unlocks Super Saiyan 2, that is falls. Vegeta already had Super Saiyan 2 by the time Babadi used his magic too boost Vegeta's power to level where he was equal to Goku's power, nothing more.

  • @timwoods2852
    @timwoods2852 3 роки тому

    Hmm. This gave me a better understanding of Vegita, and I think I don't hate him anymore, so, thanks.

  • @derekdevore3002
    @derekdevore3002 3 роки тому

    Rusty Shackleford would be proud of Vegeta’s use of pocket sand lol

  • @The_Nostalgiac
    @The_Nostalgiac 3 роки тому

    13:51
    trunks:ima just T-pose

  • @Derekrobinson900
    @Derekrobinson900 3 роки тому

    An idea for a video: "what dnd alignment are sam and dean Winchester?" Probably gonna be a long video but hey would nice to see.

    • @TheLoadingCrew
      @TheLoadingCrew  3 роки тому

      i'd probably do Castiel if i'm being honest

  • @drkinferno72
    @drkinferno72 3 роки тому

    Chaotic good at the end

  • @crimtheidiotgenius3694
    @crimtheidiotgenius3694 Рік тому

    I’m gonna clarify a couple bits of misinformation in this video.
    • Vegeta didn’t really “turn the tides” for the good guys by attacking Cell. More accurately, he enabled Gohan to turn the tides.
    • Kid Boo, at least within the anime continuities, is not only not the weakest form of Boo, but the strongest. This was confirmed across multiple statements made by Goku and the narrator. Goku and Vegeta simply got a plot-convenient power boost that could potentially rival metamoran fusion at this point.
    • Vegeta’s “you are number one” speech isn’t him recognizing that Goku “will always be the better fighter”, it’s him acknowledging that what’s put Goku ahead of him for so long. It’s not “I understand that you’ll always be better than me”, it’s “I understand why you’ve always been ahead of me, and right now you’re the only one that’s strong enough to defeat Boo.” That’s why Vegeta says he’s number one, because not even Super Saiyan 3 Gotenks or Ultimate Gohan were on Goku’s level at that point.

  • @spinoirrex2433
    @spinoirrex2433 3 роки тому +1

    Can't wait for the super (anime version) and super (manga version) of what DnD alignment is vegeta

  • @PhantomStriker04
    @PhantomStriker04 Рік тому

    Fun fact: Vegeta's SSJ2 is NOT first achieved due to the power up from Babidi's control, but due to his previous training in the 7 year time skip. The power up was just high enough to be stronger than a full power Gohan SSJ2 (from Cell Saga), I think.

  • @werewolfjedi38
    @werewolfjedi38 3 роки тому

    That was a very long right side curve in the chaos zone xD

  • @1989Brolly1989
    @1989Brolly1989 2 роки тому

    I like you're Broly fan :D

  • @jacobweatherford4696
    @jacobweatherford4696 3 роки тому +1

    I agree Stuart frieza is awesome he's one of my all time favorite characters

  • @Ekklo
    @Ekklo 3 роки тому +8

    "VaaaGEEEEEEtaaaaaaa!" -Nappa

    • @jackmist
      @jackmist 3 роки тому +1

      "God damn it Nappa." -Vegeta

    • @Ekklo
      @Ekklo 3 роки тому +1

      @@jackmist ...
      ...
      Vageta

    • @jackmist
      @jackmist 3 роки тому

      @@Ekklo ok

    • @arutka2000
      @arutka2000 3 роки тому

      "I'm haunting you."

  • @Erykthebat
    @Erykthebat 3 роки тому +1

    Do DBZ Abridged Gohan, it is after all the most faithful adaptation for some reason , and funniest

  • @SerenityM16
    @SerenityM16 Рік тому

    There’s wayyyyyy too many times he lists off something as chaotic neutral that I would call chaotic evil

  • @phantafalconpunch
    @phantafalconpunch 3 роки тому +3

    Alright, I'm gonna be THAT guy. TECHNICALLY Freiza is monochromatic not bi-chromatic. White isn't a color and is just a brighter "shade" of purple, his other color. Great video man, keep it up, liked for the Frieza video. With any luck it will be as challenging to write as the Dio video :)

    • @TheLoadingCrew
      @TheLoadingCrew  3 роки тому +3

      by bi-colored. the joke was bi-sexual colors. it was admittedly not that good

    • @phantafalconpunch
      @phantafalconpunch 3 роки тому +2

      @@TheLoadingCrew ok, now I get it. Sorry, I'm not that good with jokes :)

  • @dersteven5551
    @dersteven5551 3 роки тому

    I can't with all the TFS refrences xD

  • @tipulsar85
    @tipulsar85 3 роки тому +2

    Yeah, you get to talk about Ozaru's spiritual ancestor soon... Yes Toriyama did base it off of King Kong.

  • @arteriop8910
    @arteriop8910 2 роки тому +1

    I wonder when that Friza Video is coming

  • @lupvirga
    @lupvirga Рік тому

    that isn't the only thing, he SPECIFICALLY SAYS from the day the world tournement started and onward so he would revive the people HE killed. That's 100% a lawful good act too.

  • @DaddyVeo1911
    @DaddyVeo1911 3 роки тому

    Hey. Hey, Stuart. We're getting close to the frieza video goal.

    • @TheLoadingCrew
      @TheLoadingCrew  3 роки тому +1

      oh dang! so we are!

    • @DaddyVeo1911
      @DaddyVeo1911 3 роки тому +1

      @@TheLoadingCrew ye. Loved this video, by the way. Actually made me tear up at the middle and end.

  • @buttershush8895
    @buttershush8895 3 роки тому +2

    "Stabs her in the back" I see what you did there.

  • @Nameandaddresswithheld
    @Nameandaddresswithheld 3 роки тому

    I think vegeta should get one extra ding for his self sacrifice because he knew when he did it, that he would go to hell. To me this makes his sacrifice so much more impactful than any time goku does it. For goku, dying is like “oh you mean I get to train without having to be a father? Cool!”. For vegeta it’s “I’m probably going to suffer immensely and may never get brought back but I’ll do this anyway

  • @Vermbraunt
    @Vermbraunt 3 роки тому

    Famn this one will be interesting

  • @Jkchavesz
    @Jkchavesz 3 роки тому +5

    Wait did he call dodoria a her.
    Is that a tfs reference

    • @arutka2000
      @arutka2000 3 роки тому

      The script is rife with them.

  • @deltaprincess6295
    @deltaprincess6295 3 роки тому

    13:36 "Hyper Sonic Lion Chamber"
    That one was on purpose.

  • @wJermell0
    @wJermell0 3 роки тому +1

    I'd say you were a little too generous with what constituted neutral and good actions but overall this is a great analysis!