What D&D Alignment is Shrek?

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  • Опубліковано 21 жов 2024
  • We check out the dungeons and dragons alignment chart and see where shrek lies after going through his adventures in his movies
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  • @TheLoadingCrew
    @TheLoadingCrew  5 років тому +2294

    The image at 1:45 is a rectangle

    • @animefan3794
      @animefan3794 5 років тому +1294

      technically it is. squares are a sub category of rectangle.

    • @tomacinavetearnia8781
      @tomacinavetearnia8781 5 років тому +643

      Squares are a special type of rectangle, so yes.

    • @deido2567
      @deido2567 5 років тому +637

      ​I would define it as a numerically challenged octagon...

    • @Getsugaru
      @Getsugaru 5 років тому +410

      How does the old saying go? "All squares are rectangles but not all rectangles are squares" if I'm recalling correctly?

    • @RPGTales
      @RPGTales 5 років тому +266

      Rectangle is defined as having two lengths that are equal and two widths that are equal. Nothing says they can't all be equal so a square is a rectangle by default.

  • @aghitsaplane4262
    @aghitsaplane4262 4 роки тому +571

    Look,you can't give Shrek an alignment.He's got to many layers

  • @tysonroser4835
    @tysonroser4835 4 роки тому +390

    "Good question."
    - Shrek, from _Shrek_ (2001)

  • @SouthShoreArc
    @SouthShoreArc 4 роки тому +501

    Squares are a special types of rectangles. So yeah.

    • @TheSchnieder6
      @TheSchnieder6 4 роки тому +16

      perhaps, the squarest of rectangles

    • @glanni
      @glanni 4 роки тому +4

      EXACTLY!

    • @doommagic
      @doommagic 4 роки тому +17

      Seriously, this is one of the random things that I do actually recall from my worst subject in school, ie. math. A rectangle is a shape with four right angles. So yes, a square is a specific rectangle. ...Also, if the square-type rectangle were suddenly tilted 90 degrees, it's a rhombus as well.

    • @carbonmonteroy
      @carbonmonteroy 4 роки тому +7

      @@doommagic It works at every degree of rotation. A square could be defined simply as a shape with four congruent sides and four right angles, but it could also be described in the roundabout way of "is a parallelogram and is a rhombus and is a rectangle."
      Also, I know you meant 45 degrees but 90 works too. The rotation of the whole shape by the viewer's frame of reference does not matter towards the definition of the shape.

    • @SageDarkwind
      @SageDarkwind 4 роки тому +4

      "All these squares make a circle..."

  • @edfreak9001
    @edfreak9001 4 роки тому +434

    "This scene shows his outward appearance and race don't really showcase the kind of person he is"
    Rules lawyer: but the monster manual says....

    • @wyattlohr8199
      @wyattlohr8199 4 роки тому +62

      The Rules Lawyer can put the monster manual and shove it into a bookshelf so hard that the spine breaks, because Shrek obviously isn't a normal ogre as far as DnD goes, if anything, he is an example of homebrewing a race a bit so that playing as one means an emotional journey.

    • @Sarah12471
      @Sarah12471 3 роки тому +6

      @@wyattlohr8199 i thought you were gonna say shove it

    • @dumpsockpuppet5619
      @dumpsockpuppet5619 3 роки тому +29

      @@wyattlohr8199 Rule 0 of DnD: DM supercedes Rulebook

    • @somuchtocook9159
      @somuchtocook9159 3 роки тому +11

      @@dumpsockpuppet5619 rule 1 of dnd the dm is in control not the rulebook

    • @ThexZeldaxChampx90
      @ThexZeldaxChampx90 Рік тому +5

      @@somuchtocook9159 they're more like guidelines than actual rules

  • @DustyTheKitty
    @DustyTheKitty 5 років тому +1251

    *takes out ruler , presses it against monitor and measures the shape*
    Square.

    • @Commandant_Aeon
      @Commandant_Aeon 5 років тому +259

      Fact : A Square is a rectangle. The opposite though is not necessarily true.

    • @daniequezada6
      @daniequezada6 4 роки тому +30

      @@Commandant_Aeon that made my brain hurt... #itsadiamond

    • @zachbush4782
      @zachbush4782 4 роки тому +96

      A rectangle is a 4 sided shaped with 4 90° angles, a square is the same but all 4 sides are also the same. Airgo all squares are rectangles, but not all rectangles are squares.

    • @Livindeadboy21
      @Livindeadboy21 4 роки тому +2

      Just because the definitions are similar doesn't actually make them the same. Because the square has to have the 4 sides being the same, it isn't in fact a rectangle.

    • @Livindeadboy21
      @Livindeadboy21 4 роки тому +15

      However the shape on screen is a rectangle by three pixels. It's three pixels taller than it is wide. Yes, I counted.

  • @captaingreyeye7461
    @captaingreyeye7461 5 років тому +636

    Jojo is friends with the piller men?

    • @TheLoadingCrew
      @TheLoadingCrew  5 років тому +173

      jojo has powerful connections that some would consider to be unnatural

    • @diegodankquixote-wry3242
      @diegodankquixote-wry3242 5 років тому +35

      @@TheLoadingCrew joseph is a definitively a sith lord.
      Edit: I didn't know your -son's- daughter's name was jojo

    • @jasonkeith2832
      @jasonkeith2832 5 років тому +23

      @@diegodankquixote-wry3242 No, just a Nazi sympathizer.

    • @DJ_LilPaycheck
      @DJ_LilPaycheck 4 роки тому +4

      WHERE IS JOTARO!?
      WRRRRYYYYYYYYYY

    • @WrathMilten
      @WrathMilten 4 роки тому +7

      @@DJ_LilPaycheck bitch with your fight record you better be running away

  • @Rubymagicalgirl88
    @Rubymagicalgirl88 5 років тому +315

    I liked this and so appreciated the Brownie based Alignment description.

    • @dubuyajay9964
      @dubuyajay9964 5 років тому

      Who is your Avatar?

    • @Rubymagicalgirl88
      @Rubymagicalgirl88 5 років тому +4

      @@dubuyajay9964 She's my own shameless self inserty Character self, inspired by Mink from Dragon Half. The picture itself was a commission I won on twitter, I would have go double check the artist though.

    • @dubuyajay9964
      @dubuyajay9964 5 років тому

      @@Rubymagicalgirl88 Half dragon?

    • @Beargrin89
      @Beargrin89 2 роки тому +1

      @@Rubymagicalgirl88 Two years late, but; it’s lovely

    • @jojogacha974
      @jojogacha974 Рік тому

      And that it imply’s one time she invited her friends and gave them some of his friends

  • @TheDestructiveGiant
    @TheDestructiveGiant 4 роки тому +148

    "jojo invites friends over"
    *shows pillar men*

  • @MistCellaneous-5
    @MistCellaneous-5 4 роки тому +37

    The sheer fact that Haku is true neutral makes me smile because that perfectly describes him

    • @strandy4256
      @strandy4256 4 роки тому +5

      AKiri Anbu I was scanning the comments to confirm that it was Haku. Thank you

    • @VicEntity
      @VicEntity 4 роки тому +1

      Do you guys know who are the evil ones? Except for Vader I can't seen to figure them out.

    • @iceheadn
      @iceheadn 4 роки тому

      @@VicEntity me too

    • @pyrusblade39
      @pyrusblade39 4 роки тому +3

      @@VicEntity You are right that is Vader as LE, next to him is Sepheroth from FF7 for NE, and CE is Joker from DC comics.

  • @andresmarrero8666
    @andresmarrero8666 5 років тому +155

    So Ash is Chaotic good. Seems accurate for the most part.

    • @pungoblin9377
      @pungoblin9377 4 роки тому +19

      He stole misty’s bike, so chaotic.

    • @Shyguide
      @Shyguide 4 роки тому +29

      @@pungoblin9377also he beats ground type pokemon with electric moves somehow

    • @seasaltsky
      @seasaltsky 4 роки тому +19

      @@Shyguide I feel like ignoring type immunity like that is probably the most chaotic thing you could do (at least in Pokemon). But wouldn't that mean Pikachu is also chaotic?
      Now that I think about it, that Charizard that beat Ash's Greninja despite the type disadvantage is totally chaotic.

    • @owenpickles4486
      @owenpickles4486 4 роки тому +10

      @@seasaltsky I need to point this out right now- MEGA CHARIZARD X WAS NOT WEAK TO GRENINJA. THE DRAGON TYPING BALANCES IT OUT, MAKING WATER NEUTRAL.

    • @tristandelasuertemexcla
      @tristandelasuertemexcla 4 роки тому +3

      Who are the rest

  • @animefan3794
    @animefan3794 5 років тому +186

    do one of these for Tony Stark. I'd argue he starts in the same or similar alignment boat as Shrek did. Sure, he's a businessman, but with how many personal responsibilities he shirks or passes off to others he's definitely Chaotic as opposed to Lawful.

    • @TheLoadingCrew
      @TheLoadingCrew  5 років тому +46

      every youtubers right of passage is to do an MCU marathon

    • @TheGuardDuck
      @TheGuardDuck 5 років тому +9

      Except he goes full lawful stupid in Civil War.

    • @jackskatter.3888
      @jackskatter.3888 4 роки тому +5

      TheGuardDuck before the accords the avengers caused a lot more death than lives saved for god sake before nick fury showed up which they had no idea was going to happen they were willing to blow millions of people out of existence. Tony understood he was failing and honestly the place to fight the accords was in court NOT at an airport. If tony was lawful stupid cap was definitely chaotic stupid. Then again i dont think anyone walked out of civil war happy about the way things went down. I still rank it as the third worst marvel movie ever and thats after the hulk movies

    • @TheGuardDuck
      @TheGuardDuck 4 роки тому +2

      @@jackskatter.3888 Pretty sure they didn't cause more deaths than saves. Lotta deaths, maybe. But you gotta let civil war slide a bit; how else you gonna get to see heroes fight each other? Still can't see why you think it's so bad, the plot was still pretty decent, and the action was amazing!

    • @TheGuardDuck
      @TheGuardDuck 4 роки тому

      @@KippoKupo Maybe, but I say stupid because he refused to budge and listen to Cap's arguments.

  • @RPGTales
    @RPGTales 5 років тому +270

    Shrek is LL. Loveable and Lively.
    Also this Cinema Sins video is weird.

    • @TheLoadingCrew
      @TheLoadingCrew  5 років тому +57

      This comment does not contain a lap dance
      *Ding*

    • @dean1892
      @dean1892 4 роки тому +3

      My schools abbreviation is LL
      Sucks ass tho

    • @blarg2429
      @blarg2429 4 роки тому +4

      @@dean1892 This school does not contain a lap dance.
      *Ding*

    • @carbonmonteroy
      @carbonmonteroy 4 роки тому +4

      @@blarg2429 You've been to schools, right? There's a lapdance going on there _somewhere._ It's probably hiding in the weed and lean.

    • @blarg2429
      @blarg2429 4 роки тому +4

      @@carbonmonteroy Point taken.
      *reverse ding*

  • @lenap319
    @lenap319 4 роки тому +164

    You forgot the last allignment : chaotic stupid

    • @carbonmonteroy
      @carbonmonteroy 4 роки тому +32

      This is Lawful Stupid erasure and I will not have it

    • @sweatyskeleton7390
      @sweatyskeleton7390 4 роки тому +5

      Carbon Monteroy
      Did you mean Lawful Good?

    • @globin3477
      @globin3477 4 роки тому +22

      @@sweatyskeleton7390 No, Lawful Good is not the same as Lawful stupid.
      Lawful good characters try to uphold a helpful system of laws for other people's benefit. If the law is evil, they won't follow it.
      Lawful stupid characters obey the law even when it helps nobody.

    • @akaiyoru2681
      @akaiyoru2681 4 роки тому +8

      Chaotic stupid...murderhobos?

    • @lolface_9363
      @lolface_9363 4 роки тому +2

      What about chaotic lawful and lawful chaotic

  • @wonderfurret8223
    @wonderfurret8223 4 роки тому +80

    Average Joe: IT'S NOT A RECTANGLE!!!
    People who actually understand math: Squares are rectangles too

    • @jakob3044
      @jakob3044 4 роки тому +1

      tbh, only americans would probably fall for this

    • @vacantsix1586
      @vacantsix1586 2 роки тому +1

      @@jakob3044 I feel attacked

    • @jakob3044
      @jakob3044 2 роки тому

      @@vacantsix1586 you cannot let the racists hurt you, they are only as strong as you make them. Know that they are always more pathetic than their target

    • @vacantsix1586
      @vacantsix1586 2 роки тому

      @@jakob3044 lol

  • @JusSageMakes
    @JusSageMakes 5 років тому +80

    more please, i would love to see the dnd alignments of other chars!

  • @khajiitimanus7432
    @khajiitimanus7432 2 роки тому +3

    I never really reflected on how consistent Shrek's character is. It's... really interesting. He never changes as a person - he just grows socially through the interactions he is allowed. And I think that's really quite cool - we don't often see many notable characters who just... are who they are.

  • @CrazzyJ-iw5rc
    @CrazzyJ-iw5rc 4 роки тому +37

    i mean... its kinda in the song "beleiver" he started out chaotic neutral because he thought love was only true in fairy tales, Then he met Fiona.

    • @megafefeBR
      @megafefeBR 4 роки тому +5

      _BUT THEN I SAW HER FACE_

    • @arthurdias6860
      @arthurdias6860 2 роки тому +1

      @@megafefeBR *NOW I'M A BELIEVER*

  • @jarobryan307
    @jarobryan307 4 роки тому +59

    A square is tecnicly a rectangle so even if his he doesn't have the evil eye you are both right

    • @jacobkeary6740
      @jacobkeary6740 4 роки тому

      *_Bitch were you trying to say "technically"?_*

  • @Knuckles2761
    @Knuckles2761 4 роки тому +40

    6:50 "He doesn't have to slay the dragon, he never promised --- Lawful neutral"
    this is not lawful. I would say this is slightly chaotic, but mostly neutral.

    • @TheLoadingCrew
      @TheLoadingCrew  4 роки тому +12

      maybe?? to be fair this is my first video

    • @GrimoireOfTheSage
      @GrimoireOfTheSage 4 роки тому +13

      I think it is mostly neutral but leans towards lawful, in the rules lawyering way. Unless I am incorrectly remembering there isn't much requirement to fight the dragon. Sneaking in and sneaking her out would have fulfilled his duties quite fine. So it isn't really chaotic. But it is arguable that even if not explicitly stated that it was expected the dragon be slain in pursuit of the rescue. And a lawful person would probably try to fulfill unstated expectations that are obvious, such as this one. Honestly I can sorta see a chaotic argument, since Shrek is definitely doing it for selfish reasons, but I ultimately place the blame on the quest giver. You want the dragon dead, you should specifically call that out. Elsewise I would try and find another way, likely talking my way past it given my general predisposition to play faces.

    • @G_Travel99
      @G_Travel99 4 роки тому +14

      I think is Lawful Neutral. Cause Shrek is being loyal to the mission: Rescuing the Princess, and Neutral because he's doing it his way. Killing the dragon and rescuing Fiona will be the typical Lawfull good Paladin, cause his rescuing the princess and killing the dragon so nobody has the suffer the dragons deeds. But since Shrek is only intersted in rescuing Fiona and accomplishing the mission is Lawfull Neutral

    • @bragnir
      @bragnir 4 роки тому +8

      @@G_Travel99 Correct. Then, we have the technical option for Chaotic Evil, which is saving the dragon and slaying the princess.

    • @G_Travel99
      @G_Travel99 4 роки тому +5

      @@bragnir jahahaja yeah, i think more slaving the dragon than saving it, but yeah

  • @gyrrakavian
    @gyrrakavian 4 роки тому +20

    "Evil is an action that puts those around you in a state of tribulation."

  • @danandchristineharbour2538
    @danandchristineharbour2538 4 роки тому +9

    True we didnt argue about the shape since we knew that squares are rectangles

  • @Magus_Espigon
    @Magus_Espigon 5 років тому +17

    Frankly, this was just amazing to listen to. Glad I took the time to listen to it. Shrek is a good character, just misunderstood.

  • @Demongunner7
    @Demongunner7 4 роки тому +8

    Can I say how much I LOVE this series?! Some things you could add would be a line that tracks where the character started and ended to see just how crazy they can go up and down on the alignment scale. Also, do you adjust the character pog based on the fragments of stained glass? Cause that's super neat! One more thing, I recognize most of the characters on your alignment chart but not the one for Neutral, Chaotic Neutral, Neutral Evil, etc. Could you make a video giving those characters a brief rundown and why you feel they optimize and represent the alignment you placed them in?

    • @TheLoadingCrew
      @TheLoadingCrew  4 роки тому +5

      characters on glass - maybe one day i'll break it down but not today :)
      as far as movement goes, it's nothing that fancy. I move it about 5 pixels on the x or y axis per tick.
      show tick progress - and yes I did debate doing that...maybe in a few videos. it is some extra effort but I think I can make it work without adding 20 hours to the editing schedule. these can take quite some time to make. editing is a bitch and a half sometimes, especially if I wanna do anything fancy. this video I put a lot of elbow grease into especially

    • @Demongunner7
      @Demongunner7 4 роки тому

      @@TheLoadingCrew You totally do and it shows! Keep up the good work, and now I'm going to spend some time watching your Pokemon Tabletop videos. I've always wanted to be apart of a Pokemon RPG!

    • @TheLoadingCrew
      @TheLoadingCrew  4 роки тому +1

      thanks dude ^^ love the support and validation! thank you

    • @bluestarcmdr350
      @bluestarcmdr350 2 роки тому

      @@TheLoadingCrew Ohh so that's how much you've been moving characters on the chart. I've been binge watching these videos lately and was getting curious about that. I just came back to this video to see if an answer existed so thank you!
      Now if only I knew how big your alignment chart size wise I'd be golden lol. Am preparing to set up a heavy roleplay/casual d&d campaign and was hoping to incorporate some aspects from your alignment videos into our personal d&d system.

  • @hirosoli
    @hirosoli 5 років тому +3

    The cut to you eating the brownie was the epitome of comedy. Genius!

  • @anonymityanonymous7476
    @anonymityanonymous7476 2 роки тому +1

    Personally I define the lawful/chaotic axis as the number/strength of your personal rules or, in other words, how flexible your behavior is. Someone who's chaotic will throw their rules out the window if it means accomplishing certain things (they may prefer telling the truth but will readily lie when the situation calls for it) while someone's who's lawful has rules and lives by them (if telling the truth is one of their rules then they simply do not lie). Good/evil is mostly congruous with your interpretation, however, with my specific version being that good takes actions for the benefit of others while evil takes actions at the expense of others.

  • @brentramsten249
    @brentramsten249 5 років тому +5

    i find a system that creates much more interesting gameplay scenarios (and less fights) is the most literal interpretation of the 3.5 alignment system listed in the player handbook. its more or less what you describe, it just doesnt take intention into account at all. its pure consequential-ism and it instead uses effort as a measuring stick(say if someone tripped over a stick and accidentally caused a genocide it would have about the same weight as spending all of your waking hours for 20 years systematically ruining someone elses life).
    this leads to funny scenarios as well, like when the wizard who has pledged himself to evil deeds reads as good aligned because all his attempts end up improving peoples lives.

  • @thechosenbeastdoesgames956
    @thechosenbeastdoesgames956 4 роки тому +1

    Throwing away a brownie just to upset someone isn’t just chaotic evil, it’s pure evil.

  • @frostfiredirewolf8517
    @frostfiredirewolf8517 5 років тому +3

    I would love to see more Alignment videos like this.

  • @jacobkeyser8628
    @jacobkeyser8628 4 роки тому +1

    My first D&D campain was a parody of Shrek, but then we just decided fuck it and took down the whole monarchy

  • @WaluigiIsAGod
    @WaluigiIsAGod 5 років тому +21

    1:45 With a gallon of LSD, it's a circle
    All these squares make a circle, all these squares make a circle, all these squares make a circle

    • @TheLoadingCrew
      @TheLoadingCrew  5 років тому +5

      I understood that reference

    • @jameswhitlark9507
      @jameswhitlark9507 4 роки тому +2

      I got that reference.

    • @TheAgent0060
      @TheAgent0060 4 роки тому +1

      PoPo:KAMI, TELL ME I'm ALL RIGHT!
      Kami:PoPo, you'll be ok.
      PoPo: BITCH, DON'T TELL ME WHAT TO DO!

  • @starhalv2427
    @starhalv2427 Рік тому +1

    A small nitpick, but I'd also add the scene where he pretends to be stabbed in order to stop Charming from stabbing Artie as either Lawful Good or Neutral Good. Sure, he wasn't actually stabbed, but he sure as hell was risking his life to save a friend.

  • @TheSchnieder6
    @TheSchnieder6 4 роки тому +9

    I knew that there was a Shrek 4, but I honestly completely forgot everything about it.

  • @asteroidalassassin6949
    @asteroidalassassin6949 4 роки тому +2

    True Neutral with lawful good leanings. That's what I've seen from Shrek, he's not a strongly on chaos or law but he does value stability and is not completely opposed to working with the state.

  • @scaroe89
    @scaroe89 5 років тому +12

    So next you should do Harry Potter's alignment journey from year 1 to year 7. Or team Avatar's party alignment.

  • @Zygothknightlord
    @Zygothknightlord Рік тому +2

    This one is accurate as Shrek is in Chaotic Good territory.

  • @mrman949
    @mrman949 4 роки тому +7

    A square is a rectangle, most precisely a equilateral and quadrilateral rectangle.

  • @daniequezada6
    @daniequezada6 4 роки тому +9

    1:57 its obviously a diamond hahah some people are so unsmart

  • @o0Avalon0o
    @o0Avalon0o 4 роки тому +9

    Is there a video explaining your mosaic alignment wheel? Would love to find out whose in the pictures & why.

    • @theblackmanisgod8759
      @theblackmanisgod8759 3 роки тому +5

      Lawful Good is Captain America (Marvel Comics), Neutral Good is Sora (Kingdom Hearts), Chaotic Good is Ash (Pokémon), Lawful Evil is Darth Vader (Star Wars), Neutral Evil is Sephiroth (Final Fantasy), Chaotic Evil is I'm guessing the Joker (DC Comics/The Dark Knight), Lawful Neutral is Judge Dredd (Judge Dredd), True Neutral is Haku (Naruto), and Chaotic Neutral is Lina Inverse (Slayers).

  • @TheGamingEngi
    @TheGamingEngi 3 роки тому +2

    Looking back at this, I can just imagine the whole "i need a hero sequence" from the prison break to be a typical D&D PC fuckery:
    GM: okay, Shrek. You just broke out of prison with the help of your friends. The big ball is already in session, where your wife risks falling under prince charmings spell. What do you do ?
    GM (thinking): okay I have planned for multiple stealth options, so they can break in without any encounters.
    Shrek: "Gingerbread man, do you know of a local baker ?"
    GM (as ģingerbread man): (rolled 19 on knowledge(local))"sure, the one on baker street"
    GM,thinking: okay, does he want to sneak in as a baker or as delivery ? Maybe i the party cake
    Shrek: I follow the gingerbread man to the baker and try and convince him to make a kaiju-sized gingerbread man that we can use to storm the castle while the ball is in session.
    GM: wut ? O.O

  • @ronpagep6234
    @ronpagep6234 5 років тому +3

    I really hope you don’t get striked for that Joker clip.
    Also, one of the best videos I’ve seen from ya. Great stuff.

  • @DBinitiate
    @DBinitiate 5 років тому

    I think you really did nail the alignment descriptions.

  • @benniemoralli6451
    @benniemoralli6451 4 роки тому +5

    2:03 a square can be a rectangle but a rectangle can't be a square, and that's math. A square checks out all the parameters to be considered a rectangle but the rectangle isn't even on all sides therefore it can't be a square

  • @lifadysi9418
    @lifadysi9418 Рік тому +1

    14:22 I don't see where the Shrek face moved for that last one.
    It can be tricky to weigh each action, but some acts should probably move someone around more than others depending on the significance of the act, or something.
    I think neutral acts should move someone around less than in the good, evil, lawful, or chaotic directions; although maybe this was done and I didn't notice.
    I really enjoyed the video, though. Great job!

  • @Closer2Zero
    @Closer2Zero 5 років тому +33

    i cant quite tell who every character in that alignment chart is. Can you spell it out for me?

    • @vivian-alexandrarivers897
      @vivian-alexandrarivers897 5 років тому +10

      Ok, the one I can tell are Captain America from Marvel Comics for Lawful Good, Sora from Kingdom Hearts as Neutral Good, Ash Ketchum from Pokemon for Chaotic Good, Haku from Naruto for True Neutral, Darth Vader from Star Wars for Lawful Evil and Sephiroth from Final Fantasy VII for Neutral Evil. I can't really make out who exactly it is for the two side Neutrals or for Chaotic Evil, but I feel Chaotic Evil may be Joker from DC comics. Only like 3 minutes into the video here.

    • @choasnight93
      @choasnight93 5 років тому +7

      @@vivian-alexandrarivers897 Lawful Neutral is Judge Dredd

    • @vivian-alexandrarivers897
      @vivian-alexandrarivers897 5 років тому +2

      @@choasnight93 I can see that now that you've said it.

    • @MegaPokefan97
      @MegaPokefan97 5 років тому +2

      @@choasnight93 and Chaotic Neutral looks like Doomslayer from Doom

    • @MetaL556
      @MetaL556 4 роки тому +2

      @@morgothable It's Lina Inverse from Slayers. Very appropriate choice.

  • @zsupper
    @zsupper 5 років тому +6

    About that dude that might be the shrek player.
    I have send him that video: the shrek character story video and he didn't reply so i typed DAVID!!!
    And the only reaction that i have is "a" cuz i shouted at him

  • @ryancasey9763
    @ryancasey9763 5 років тому +8

    1:45 its a quad-a-gon

  • @darkshadowlord321
    @darkshadowlord321 4 роки тому

    I have figured out every character in the alignment char you use aside from chaotic neutral, and I hate that I can't tell. The fact that neutral came to me amazes me since I haven't even watched that in years yet I remembered that character

    • @GhimyDaCheese
      @GhimyDaCheese 4 роки тому

      Tell me neutral evil and lawful neutral. Also why tf does no one know cn? I wanna figure it out but just fuckin' can't!

  • @malcolmmoors6698
    @malcolmmoors6698 4 роки тому +22

    Umm.... all squares are rectangles, the argument is pointless

  • @FeinryelRavenclaw
    @FeinryelRavenclaw 2 роки тому +1

    Well… yes. The image at 1:45 *IS* a rectangle. It is also a Quadrilateral, and it is also a square. That specific shape falls into three distinct and “nested” descriptions in order of specificity. Quadrilaterals are any shapes defined by four lines and four corners. Rectangles are quadrilaterals with the lines being parallel and perpendicular to each other. Squares are rectangles with each line being the exact same size.

    • @TheLoadingCrew
      @TheLoadingCrew  2 роки тому +2

      that was a comment trap my friend >:D you just gave this video ENGAGEMENT!

    • @FeinryelRavenclaw
      @FeinryelRavenclaw 2 роки тому +2

      @@TheLoadingCrew 🤑👍

  • @aarohalme1020
    @aarohalme1020 4 роки тому +4

    Paladins tend to be more lawful than good in their rules, and there can be a lawful evil paladin. I also disagree with many of the examples you gave, but i'm willing to discuss it as it is an interesting concept.

    • @TheGuardDuck
      @TheGuardDuck 4 роки тому +1

      Funny thing, Pathfinder requires Paladins to be lawful good, EXCEPT, the variation Anti-Paladin, which is chaotic evil. Honestly, I feel like it should be lawful evil, but whatever.

  • @awkwardmartian299
    @awkwardmartian299 4 роки тому

    I NEED to rewatch these movies. God it's been so long.

  • @skibur848
    @skibur848 4 роки тому +7

    Squares are rectangles but rectangles aren’t squares so technically yes it is a rectangle

  • @DarthSanguine
    @DarthSanguine 4 роки тому +2

    I measured the shape at 1:56, and it is in fact a rectangle - the vertical sides are about half a cm longer than the horizontal ones.

  • @daledowse5727
    @daledowse5727 4 роки тому +4

    It is actually a rectangle. All squares are counted as rectangles.

  • @artzanator
    @artzanator 4 роки тому

    The more I hear about dnd alignment discussions I see more movies and TV shows with dnd glasses now

  • @lil_halfrican_boi2124
    @lil_halfrican_boi2124 4 роки тому +4

    Before I see this, imma say he's chaotic neutral

  • @orejovicic7777
    @orejovicic7777 4 роки тому

    I was on the fence about whether to subscribe or not, but the story about JoJo and the cookies made my day. See you in my subscription feed.

  • @harpskid
    @harpskid 4 роки тому +3

    My understanding of alignment:
    Lawful: Follows the law
    Neutral: Meh
    Chaotic: Rebellious, against order, fight the system
    Good: Does things that are generally "good"
    Neutral: Meh
    Evil: Does things that are generally "evil"
    Despite alignment, each player should try to do whats best for the party unless there is no other choice. So no, Lawful Good is NOT having a battle to the death with our chaotic evil, get the fuck out of here
    Heres my favorite situation, a member of the party is going to get hung because they got caught stealing, in general the response will be
    Lawful good: "He deserves it, but maybe we can find a way to pay dues without death."
    Lawful neutral:(Will always go the legal route, will have disagreement with non lawful characters)
    Lawful evil: "He didn't leave the shop so you can't prove he actually had any intention of stealing" (Knows the law, and will find loopholes and bylaws to their benefit)
    Neutral good: Get him out without hurting anyone (hopefully my party member had a good reason to steal)
    True Neutral: Get him out at all cost (In my games, the true neutrals should always play towards the benefit of the party)
    Neutral evil: Get him out and make them regret ever wasting our time (Typically cruel people who always play in favor of the party, but aren't trying to make a scene)
    Chaotic good: "Rescue him, hes a victim of circumstance, he was only stealing to help us." (he understands stealing is bad, but can rationalize breaking the law.)
    Chaotic neutral: (Is most likely going to be the one in trouble but if not, is going to be raising hell right about now, could be used as a distraction)
    Chaotic evil: I'll burn this entire place to the ground if you don't let him go! (will almost always resort to violence, disorder, or other not nice things but isn't ALWAYS completely unreasonable if it means saving a party member)
    Keep in mind, all of these are first thoughts, and might not represent the correct decision in every situation. There is overlap for all alignments and you should see it as more of a spectrum than hard coded rules.

    • @fisharepeopletoo9653
      @fisharepeopletoo9653 4 роки тому +1

      I've always seen it as lawful are people who have ideals and will generally stick to those ideals, chaotics are people whose main ideal is freedom, neutral is someone who may or may not have ideals, they aren't going to push them on you, you may never know how they feel on many issues (if they feel any way at all). Then for Good its being willing to go out of your way to help others even if you may not be getting anything in return, Evil is going out of your way to make sure you're going to come out on top in every situation, and neutrals in this section are generally people who favor balance, the type of person that might tell you suffering to some extent is a valuable thing, and if everything was good then we wouldn't recognize the evil.
      So for example if you are chaotic evil your prime directives so to speak are to enjoy your freedom even if it hinders others' freedom, really doing whatever you want as long as you reasonably think it will help to better your position (position being a very interchangeable word here, could be anything from hierarchy to improving your biological health).
      Neutral good would be that guy who would give you the shirt off his back if you need it but may surprise you one day with his stance on abortion rights.
      Lawful neutral would be a cop who may let small infractions slide because he sees the bigger picture.

  • @willofthewinds3222
    @willofthewinds3222 5 років тому +1

    This was an awesome episode. Like, this is one of your better episodes!

    • @TheLoadingCrew
      @TheLoadingCrew  5 років тому

      I don't know whether to be proud or ashamed that one of my best videos ever is a shrek video

    • @willofthewinds3222
      @willofthewinds3222 5 років тому

      @@TheLoadingCrew The whole concept is amazing.

  • @screechingpumpkin6727
    @screechingpumpkin6727 5 років тому +3

    So im highly curios about Gon from HXH. He has extremely questionable motives that can only be explained with "he's a kid" and it makes it hard for me to pin his alignment

  • @nullpoint3346
    @nullpoint3346 4 роки тому +1

    Chaotic Nuetral.
    Edit: okay, so you're using _that_ definition of alignment.

  • @xanderjcliffe-musicreviews7740
    @xanderjcliffe-musicreviews7740 4 роки тому +13

    anyone who's studied math knows that 1:45 genuinely is a rectangle (idk if American education is different?)

    • @alexeggmacmuffin9311
      @alexeggmacmuffin9311 4 роки тому +3

      American education is the same, they taught us that in 6th grade

    • @jakob3044
      @jakob3044 4 роки тому +1

      american education isn't up to par, unless it's expensive.

  • @heyindiegamer7831
    @heyindiegamer7831 2 роки тому

    1:45
    Congratulations! You win the game.
    (Can't comment on the Loading Crew's actual time stamp in comments, probably due to it being absolutely full)

  • @colinchildress1251
    @colinchildress1251 4 роки тому +6

    I cast Enlarge on the gingerbread cookie!

  • @XonyMudd
    @XonyMudd 5 років тому +1

    I love how you used Lina Inverse for Chaotic Neutral. Technically Lina is Chaotic Good, The Slayers d20 system pg 168-167. However, since Guardians of Order no longer exists, it could be argued that's no longer valid, but their material is currently owned by Whitewolf so it could still be considered.
    In summation, you should do Lina Inverse's alignment if you haven't already

  • @elijahproto
    @elijahproto 4 роки тому +9

    Calling it without watching. Going off the beginning he's probably more like chaotic neutral, but now he's chaotic good

    • @catoticneutral
      @catoticneutral 4 роки тому +2

      (edited)

    • @elijahproto
      @elijahproto 4 роки тому

      @@catoticneutral I posted it and 1 second later I changed it because I wanted to say something else

  • @fanboygamer3e
    @fanboygamer3e 4 роки тому +1

    He starts out as Chaotic Neutral in the first movie, then turns Chaotic good as the series goes on.

  • @Oscar-j6b
    @Oscar-j6b 4 роки тому +8

    Wait, your daughter's name is Jojo?
    That is such a cool name.

  • @evilallensmithee
    @evilallensmithee 4 роки тому +1

    D&D Alignments:
    Having read the alignments from a number of editions I believe the PHB 3.5 did the best job of explaining the Good and Evil as a distinct and separate scale form Law and Chaos and making them forces of the world.
    Good/Evil=Cosmic Force of Morality
    Law/Chaos=Cosmic Force of Ethics
    *PHB 3.5 pg 103*
    **Moral Good**
    “Good” implies altruism, respect for life, and a concern for the dignity of sentient beings. Good characters make personal sacrifices to help others.
    **Immoral Evil**
    “Evil” implies hurting, oppressing, and killing others. Some evil creatures simply have no compassion for others and kill without qualms if doing so is convenient. Others actively pursue evil, killing for sport or out of duty to some evil deity or master.
    **Amoral(?) Neutrality**
    People who are neutral with respect to good and evil have compunctions against killing the innocent but lack the commitment to make sacrifices to protect or help others. Neutral people are committed to others by personal relationships. A neutral person may sacrifice himself to protect his family or even his homeland, but he would not do so for strangers who are not related to him.
    **Ethical Law**
    “Law” implies honor, trustworthiness, obedience to authority, and reliability. On the downside, lawfulness can include close-mindedness, reactionary adherence to tradition, judgmentalness, and a lack of adaptability. Those who consciously promote lawfulness say that only lawful behavior creates a society in which people can depend on each other and make the right decisions in full confidence that others will act as they should
    **Unethical Chaos**
    “Chaos” implies freedom, adaptability, and flexibility. On the downside, chaos can include recklessness, resentment toward legitimate authority, arbitrary actions, and irresponsibility. Those who promote chaotic behavior say that only unfettered personal freedom allows people to express themselves fully and lets society benefit from the potential that its individuals have within them.
    **’Practical’ Neutrality**
    Someone who is neutral with respect to law and chaos has a normal respect for authority and feels neither a compulsion to obey nor a compulsion to rebel. She is honest but can be tempted into lying or deceiving others.
    TL;DR- it isn’t so much that it is controversial as people don’t read. Think irl chaotic aligned people.

  • @g-moneyg-life
    @g-moneyg-life 4 роки тому +3

    10:35 one of my saddest scenes as a kid. Seeing that big ginger bread dude sacrifice himself.
    Really gets yah.

  • @thedoctorisin5141
    @thedoctorisin5141 Рік тому

    I really want to argue Neutral Good, but honestly you're better at this than I am. I'm also three years late. So good call.

  • @Phychologik
    @Phychologik 4 роки тому +4

    But guys he’s the protagonist he’s always lawful good reeeeeeeee

  • @gaminreasons8941
    @gaminreasons8941 4 роки тому

    Personally I'd pin his starting Alignment as True Neutral. If left alone he would only live off his land and be alone, he wards away outsiders and trespassers by both leaving signs and scaring them away.

  • @pickles6846
    @pickles6846 4 роки тому

    In Euclidean plane geometry, a rectangle is a quadrilateral with four right angles. It can also be defined as an equiangular quadrilateral, since equiangular means that all of its angles are equal (360°/4 = 90°). It can also be defined as a parallelogram containing a right angle.
    so yes... a rectangle

  • @jasonhulsey2537
    @jasonhulsey2537 4 роки тому

    This mad man controlled the contents of his own comment section via reverse psychology. For that alone, I actually have to subscribe.

  • @terak4786
    @terak4786 4 роки тому +1

    1:48 - Anyone who says that is a rectangle is correct. A rectangle is defined as a quadrilateral shape with two pairs of equal, opposite side and four right angle corners. All squares are rectangles, by that definition.
    Shrek is lawful good.
    In the third movie, he travels across an ocean, and nearly gets killed by Prince Charming, to bring a lawful heir to the throne, just to escape it himself. A chaotic character might have said screw this, its not worth the effort, and just LEFT, doing nothing. So lawful is covered.
    As for good, there is a lot of self-sacrifice built into the character.
    He thinks Fiona would be happier if she were human, he is willing to change HIMSELF just so she can be. Charming starts looking too closely at Arthur, Shrek plays him off as a stooge, downplaying his importance to protect him.

  • @TDay-uk6dq
    @TDay-uk6dq 2 роки тому +1

    this ….. started a great series

  • @pianotm
    @pianotm 2 роки тому

    PARFAITS!!! Everybody loves parfaits!
    OH! The dinner scene from Shrek II! Might be my favorite scene in the history of film comedies!
    Shrek 3 does have one great moment that makes me keep coming back: "Help! I'm being kidnapped by an ogre and he's trying to relate with me!"

  • @Bopoeoaelic
    @Bopoeoaelic 4 роки тому

    I am coming back with a ruler when it's daytime to see if it ever could have been called a square.

  • @MagusAgrippa8
    @MagusAgrippa8 4 роки тому

    The nice little stained glass chart is really neat looking.

    • @TheLoadingCrew
      @TheLoadingCrew  4 роки тому +1

      thanks man :) appreciate it. took a bit of time to make

    • @MagusAgrippa8
      @MagusAgrippa8 4 роки тому

      @@TheLoadingCrew I can definitely see the effort there. Liking this series so far and your interpretation of alignment actually makes a lot of sense, compared to some other sources. Keep up the excellent work, dude.

  • @Beregorn88
    @Beregorn88 4 роки тому +1

    I'm not completely sold on the fact you can interpret what is lawful and what is not. In D&D 3E (the only one, for what I am concerned) there are extensive explanations on what is lawful and what is good: the existence of the outer planes gives an in universe clear definition of what each alignment involve. The "ambiguity" derives from the desire of the players to be acclaimed as paragons of good while stealing everything is not nailed to the floor, all that IS nailed to the floor, the nails and the floor.

  • @satsugekibukouken
    @satsugekibukouken 4 роки тому

    To make it easier for people/newbies who don't know about alignment, i always tell them: the first one is how you follow laws and the second one is how you treat people.

  • @ryancrazyrhino8976
    @ryancrazyrhino8976 3 роки тому

    To this day I'm still praying we get a Dredd alignment video

  • @RedwoodTheElf
    @RedwoodTheElf 4 роки тому +1

    That is one of the biggest misconceptions about alignment: LAWFUL DOES NOT MEAN FOLLOWING OR OBEYING THE LAW.
    A LG Paladin will NOT obey an evil law. If you have trouble understanding lawful alignment, think of it as ORDER instead.

  • @nineandahaf5042
    @nineandahaf5042 4 роки тому +2

    Rectangle confirmed

  • @bretfinck1665
    @bretfinck1665 4 роки тому +1

    I would like to see an adventure time one of these. But not Finn the human, I’d like to see Princess Bubblegum. She’s done a lot of messed up and admirable stuff, would be cool to see where you align her by the end of the series.

  • @cryamistellimek9184
    @cryamistellimek9184 5 років тому

    True neutral obviously. He’s not above doing good but still has a more selfless streak. He’s perfectly fine with following laws when it suits him, but will disobey them when he feels like it. Regardless of your opinion of good, evil, lawful, or chaotic, he sits right in the middle.

  • @jackdotzler6115
    @jackdotzler6115 4 роки тому

    A square is technically a rectangle by definition; 4 sides, 4 right angles, 2 pairs of equal opposite lengths

  • @Milshare
    @Milshare 3 роки тому

    The power of the square was drawing me in. :)

  • @artur_pc
    @artur_pc 4 роки тому

    A rectangle is a quadrangular shape with four 90° degree angles, so even though the shape at 1:45 is a square, it is also a rectangle.

  • @thrasho2
    @thrasho2 5 років тому +1

    Can't wait to see more alignment videos on more characters. Also the graphic bothers me in that ash is chaotic good, I've never seen ash break the rules, the most CN character I can think of in fiction would be Monkey D. Luffy from One Piece.

    • @TheLoadingCrew
      @TheLoadingCrew  5 років тому

      ooooh. good point...why didn't I think of that...I think I was just really attached to his color scheme

  • @aaronbrown8377
    @aaronbrown8377 4 роки тому

    The image is indeed a rectangle assuming it's angles all equal 90°. If one pair of sides are longer, it doesn't matter. A square is both a rectangle and a rhombus but not all rectangles and rhombuses are squares. That would indeed be a rectangle, even if it's also a square.

  • @radwanibrahim2539
    @radwanibrahim2539 4 роки тому

    Finally people started to the questions

    • @TheLoadingCrew
      @TheLoadingCrew  4 роки тому

      right? rey and kylo just came out today too :)

  • @TheRichmaster24
    @TheRichmaster24 4 роки тому

    I liked the measurement system used here

  • @Sovreign071
    @Sovreign071 Рік тому

    Square: four sides, four right-angle corners, and all sides are equal length.
    Rectangle: four sides, four right-angle corners, with each side matching the side opposite.
    Funnily enough, a square CAN be considered a rectangle!

  • @philipsgrignoli7866
    @philipsgrignoli7866 4 роки тому

    Okay, I have to ultimate nerd here. A square meets all criteria to be a rectangle, but a rectangle is not always a square because it doesn't require it's sides to be equal. Therefore, if it looks like a square, it is most assuredly a rectangle, but you have to actually measure to be 100% sure whether a given rectangle can also be a square. In Conclusion, TheLoadingCrew is completely correct.

  • @exostretch7991
    @exostretch7991 4 роки тому

    A rectangle is a polygon where all sides are perpendicular lines.
    A square is a polygon where all sides are perpendicular AND they are equal length.
    The image is both a rectangle and a square.

  • @SuperDanielHUN
    @SuperDanielHUN 3 роки тому

    Yes, exactly what i wanted to see in my recommendations at 3AM

  • @thepovertysoldier9220
    @thepovertysoldier9220 4 роки тому +1

    90% of all everyone plays chaotic neutral, so is Shrek.