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We need to talk about Mixing Cheat Sheets.

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  • Опубліковано 15 сер 2024
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    0:00 - Intro
    1:30 - Tarp Beat
    2:12 - Interpreting The Cheat Sheet
    3:04 - Faders Mix
    4:24 - Meters Mix
    4:54 - Comparisons
    6:43 - The Problem With Cheat Sheets
    8:43 - Conclusion
    Disclaimer: The content in this video has been used for educational purposes in accordance with section 107 of US Copyright Law.
    You can use my instrumentals/remakes for parodies/covers/etc (credit is appreciated), but remember, you should always have permission from the song's publisher and/or rightful owners!

КОМЕНТАРІ • 456

  • @anonymoususer2764
    @anonymoususer2764 4 роки тому +834

    "+14 for the snare transient"
    - Virtual Riott

    • @AndrewYac
      @AndrewYac 4 роки тому +84

      "Virtual Riot is my best friend"
      - Definitively wasn't Elimilimilimilimilmilimilimilimiliminate

    • @komodinotubesco
      @komodinotubesco 4 роки тому +7

      Whitout the limiter in the master ^^. Here, this is an example that the "rules of music production" are not good in all the case

    • @robingardner3018
      @robingardner3018 4 роки тому +3

      Lol, that really got me

    • @ok-vy4pt
      @ok-vy4pt 4 роки тому +9

      That's a lot of reverb
      - Virtual Riot 2019 (showing the hysteria project file)

    • @atomictraveller
      @atomictraveller 4 роки тому

      i went to go see star wars part 1, he kilt all teh sand peepull and then him go home and he say, "i kilt them" and they put a fucking DC spike in thar my ear was teh bleeding

  • @teko634
    @teko634 4 роки тому +213

    Random instagram post: “Get a better mix using these 5 rules”
    Me, putting reverb on a sub: *YES*

    • @gr11n33
      @gr11n33 4 роки тому +12

      Put some distortion, get a top level mixing engineer and you got whole Tylers "Igor" just for yourself lmao

    • @blulere
      @blulere 3 роки тому +6

      nah man just put reverb on master set low to off and high to 500 hz 😎😎 pros will love it

    • @turbochargedfilms
      @turbochargedfilms 3 роки тому +4

      subs without reverb might be nice to listen to but they won't get you to berghain

    • @bigolworm3045
      @bigolworm3045 2 роки тому +1

      become ungovernable

  • @dylanlockemp3
    @dylanlockemp3 4 роки тому +869

    usually people with name dylan are enemy but i think u are friend
    i like u

    • @Majima_57
      @Majima_57 4 роки тому +20

      you guys should do a collab

    • @SlayPlenty
      @SlayPlenty 4 роки тому +12

      Dylan^2

    • @neu3478
      @neu3478 4 роки тому +1

      You should start editing videos it might suit you well

    • @DylanTallchief
      @DylanTallchief  4 роки тому +238

      Dylan

    • @AlrexX2
      @AlrexX2 4 роки тому +10

      oh my god its dylan and dylan

  • @balls261
    @balls261 4 роки тому +436

    The other thing is that these cheat sheets are always just for the most barebones simplistic trap tracks. If you are a total noob and have added anything else aside from what's shown (vocals, fx, more melodies, chords, any layered sounds) you're kind of hung out to dry. They're cheat sheets made by people who barely have a grasp on production and who only ever make one very specific, usually very minimal, type of music so it really only helps others who make that exact same kind of music. And even then there are all those other caveats.
    I remember when I first started getting into productions there were always these little "rules" floating around production communities, and it took me a couple years to realize that they should be taken with a grain of salt, if not ignored completely. It's like painters saying "yes only mix these two colours, only use this one brush for painting landscapes, only use acrylic paint". All they do is squander very healthy experimentation that would have otherwise helped newcomers get a better understanding of production and develop their own techniques.

    • @svengali5862
      @svengali5862 4 роки тому +24

      While you are right , I need you to understand how dangerous the "there is no rules" talk is. When you're a beginner , you absolutely need to follow some "rules" otherwise you'll never learn the proper methods. The "no rule" talk applies to people who know what they're doing and are therefore able to experiment with different mixing techniques.On the other hand you've got someone like Carnage who boosts 20 db on an 808 and tells you THERE IS NO RULES BRO. I've had a similar experience with a client that had the kicks going from mono to slightly left , to hard right etc. and when I told him it's wrong , guess what he told me ? THERE IS NO RULES BRO
      Basically , idiots taking that "advice" to make horrible mixing decisions

    • @balls261
      @balls261 4 роки тому +18

      @@svengali5862 Sure, but there's a difference between rules and guidelines. You have to remember that not everybody has the same goals. Everyone is going to come at it with different genres, styles, atmopheres, tonality, ect. ect. in mind.
      I'm not saying that we should tell newbies htere aren't any rules, I'm just saying it shouldn't be presented as "rules". At the end of the day if that guy wanted to experiment with making his kicks get panned, who cares? It was something he wanted to mess around with. Yes tell him what the disadvantages of this are, but this isn't a science, it's an art.
      My point is let people make bad music. Help them in understanding why the industry standards are the way they are, but forcing them to adhere to them as if you're not allowed to do anything else is ridiculous. When you are a newbie and you are handed a big list of rules, guess what, you don't LEARN anything. You just follow those rules blindly and then when some of them end up backfiring at you because, let's face it, most of those rules were probably learned from other amateur producers who don't really know what they're talking about, they end up getting frustrated with how it sounds and give up.
      Give educated guidelines, not rules.

    • @svengali5862
      @svengali5862 4 роки тому +5

      @@balls261 My point isn't to get someone to stop doing something , but to open their eyes as to what's best for their song/mix. Most of the time "following the script" will get you far more then THINKING you're experimenting. Panning kicks for example isn't experimenting, it's plain wrong and there are numerous reasons why that is. If it weren't wrong you'd hear it in industry standard mixes all the time but you don't. You'll never hear something like that.You know why ? Because it's wrong and if you don't want to take the advice from someone more experienced when you're told that it's wrong , not only are you not experimenting but you're actually wasting your precious time and that's the most important thing you've got in this world. How many producers reading this now have WASTED years in the beginning stage of their career thinking : yeah these "experiments" make me unique as producer , no one sounds like this right ? Only to find out years later how wrong they were and how much potentially good songs they've ruined for not understanding when something is "wrong". I know I have because I was (like many) the best producer in the world and no one could tell me anything.
      People HATE guidelines because they think following them will make them a generic producer , this is why we say "rules" as newbies take you more seriously. Cheers my friend :)

    • @svengali5862
      @svengali5862 4 роки тому +1

      @@balls261 Btw about "if that guy wanted to experiment with making his kicks get panned, who cares?" Well I CARE , because I had to spend hours trying to explain to the guy that his mix will not turn out well because of this , and I ended up walking away from the project even though he was paying fair money. I just didn't want to associate myself with something like that as there is NO WAY I could have sent that mix out to someone and say : Hey I'm offering mixing/mastering services , take a listen to this

    • @SHUTDOWNOfficial
      @SHUTDOWNOfficial 4 роки тому +5

      @@svengali5862 Obviously panning your main kick is pretty bad, but you can still experiment with panning kicks. Like putting a high passed left to right ping pong delay on the kick or something.

  • @stupidchild7716
    @stupidchild7716 4 роки тому +1252

    I mix everything at +10 db in mono but pan each element more and more to the left and only to the left. My momma says I'm very good :)

    • @ShoryYTP
      @ShoryYTP 4 роки тому +69

      That's the way to do it

    • @marcusdelictus
      @marcusdelictus 4 роки тому +38

      Huh is this some kind of joke or a good advice?

    • @remyyoo8977
      @remyyoo8977 4 роки тому +104

      m d its good advice

    • @stupidchild7716
      @stupidchild7716 4 роки тому +91

      @@marcusdelictus It's what I do. Since it's in mono it's only half as loud so I can crank things up a lot without noise or clipping, and the progressive panning is to add dynamism so the sounds don't clutter. A lot of older/more veteran producers do it too

    • @nickkeirn4638
      @nickkeirn4638 4 роки тому +14

      m d yeah I agree this seems like a terrible way to mix haha I agree with mixing in mono but why only pan things to one side and why make everything loud in mono when it’s just going to clip like you’re trying to avoid the second you make it stereo again unless you want a mono only mix? Very strange 😂

  • @Gabriel-jx4or
    @Gabriel-jx4or 4 роки тому +638

    now my beats are industry standart

  • @shithead4759
    @shithead4759 4 роки тому +358

    *Industry Standart*

  • @XS10SEALS
    @XS10SEALS 4 роки тому +109

    When the guide went "-_-" I felt that.

  •  4 роки тому +73

    Most of these Instagram accounts are just faking it, like some of them literally give you "eq presets for your kicks" and be something like boost 120 hz for more bass, like wtf

  • @cjfromgtasanadreas
    @cjfromgtasanadreas 4 роки тому +38

    This goes back to "if it sounds good it's good", let me give you a deep house song as an example, you can make your kick hard hitting as Mahmut Orhan does usually or you can make it short and quieter as it's the case of most of the songs mixed by Spinnin records. Which sounds better to you, which do you want in every one of your mix? Don't mix thinking "is this how these people will like it", mix while asking yourself "do I like this?"

    • @LiMCRiMZ
      @LiMCRiMZ 3 роки тому +2

      This is great advice unless you're me.
      Everything that sounds good to me comes across as completely wack to literally everyone and 10 years of experience has not changed that one bit 😂
      I guess these guides are great for people that just want to sound juuuuust generic enough for a non-musician/non-prodicer audience to comment [🔥🔥🔥🔥] a bunch of times? 🤷‍♂️

  • @egekazakmusic
    @egekazakmusic 4 роки тому +330

    You really have to train and trust your ears, it depends so much on what sounds and samples you use it's always different

    • @totoplz
      @totoplz 4 роки тому +11

      yeah but it gets really hard when it's about mixing the bass section when 1. your headphones don't go down low enough 2. your neighbours hate you

    • @egekazakmusic
      @egekazakmusic 4 роки тому +3

      @@totoplz Beyerdynamics headphones are a good choice, not too expensive either, DT 770 pro for example it's amazing and I still use it

    • @totoplz
      @totoplz 4 роки тому +3

      @@egekazakmusic I also have beyerdynamics headphones, the "custom studios", which are even more expensive i think but they still dont really offer that really low bass response that im looking for

    • @xelerator2398
      @xelerator2398 4 роки тому +1

      Just use high treble iem's when after finised project listen with better headphones you will be shocked ! Im simple man if sound good with suck iem's everyone can listen it !!!

    • @jAvViRolDaN
      @jAvViRolDaN 4 роки тому

      sonarworks + bayerdynamics dt880 or sennheisser hd600 and u r safe

  • @DinkyPattern1
    @DinkyPattern1 4 роки тому +131

    0db okay i hear it
    -1db TURN THAT BCK I HEAR NOTHING!!!!

  • @TheZombiezXtreme
    @TheZombiezXtreme 4 роки тому +663

    good video dylan. 2/10.

    • @alexmanning9108
      @alexmanning9108 4 роки тому +11

      I wanna like this comment but it’s on 69 likes so I won’t

    • @dats1k270
      @dats1k270 4 роки тому +15

      2/10db🌚

    • @sausboi9085
      @sausboi9085 4 роки тому +1

      Get out of here, Melon!

    • @marlonbravo6319
      @marlonbravo6319 3 роки тому +1

      I don't know why but I laughed hella hard when I read this. Thanks, made my day.

    • @sebastiandavila9122
      @sebastiandavila9122 3 роки тому

      😂

  • @TeeRexWrecksFace
    @TeeRexWrecksFace 4 роки тому +35

    im glad dylan was just as confused as me about that "basic structure." also dylan is the best music production teacher on youtube. i learn so much from these vids

  • @draganescuconstantin2380
    @draganescuconstantin2380 4 роки тому +7

    from personal experience the best way to learn how to mix at/close to an industry standard is to
    1) dont overcomplicate things, 9 times out of 10 the problem is with the sound being too loud/too quiet, in trap especially you dont need a lot of frequency manipulation or sound design, the sounds are very basic and you mostly dont need fancy mixing plugins
    2) if you want to learn something you need to put 10.000 hours into it. same goes for mixing. do it by yourself on your own music over and over again on hundreds of tracks until it starts to sound like the music you like listening

  • @OttomanBeats
    @OttomanBeats 3 роки тому +7

    TRY THIS AND I GUARANTEE YOUR MIXES WILL SOUND BETTER EVERYWHERE. DBs are on the master channel velocity.
    KICK 15 DB
    SNARE - 808 18 DB
    HIHATS 27-24 DB
    INSTRUMENTS 30-21 DB
    THE WHOLE MIX SHOULD BE 9-12 DB AT MOST, BEFORE MASTERING.
    HOW TO MASTER.
    FL LIMITER SETTINGS:
    CEL -1.0 DB
    SAT- -0.1 DB
    GAIN 6.0 DB
    SOFT CLIPPER: THRESHOLD 0.0 DB (ALL THE WAY UP)
    POST GAIN: 95
    DONE

    • @nygh7336
      @nygh7336 3 роки тому

      Ok

    • @hermianofficial3400
      @hermianofficial3400 2 роки тому

      I can't tell if you're joking or not. In case you aren't, fixed settings will do jackshit for you.

    • @gebborecords
      @gebborecords 2 роки тому

      Thanks do you have the same for other genre of music???

  • @superschizoscriptures
    @superschizoscriptures 4 роки тому +41

    i clip everything +10 Db minimum so that my mix is nice and crunchy :)

    • @Meltrikz
      @Meltrikz 4 роки тому +17

      If you also add a maximus on each drum track and turn all the knobs to the maximum, you'll get drums that really knock.

    • @martismartiis813
      @martismartiis813 4 роки тому +8

      @@Meltrikz add waveshaper on master, right click and drag to the left corner on the top

    • @Meltrikz
      @Meltrikz 4 роки тому +7

      @@martismartiis813 Damn, thanks for that tip! Now I'm an industry producer.

    • @txddyfarquh3916
      @txddyfarquh3916 3 роки тому +2

      Don't for get to place Sausage Fattener in every step of the Master Chain for MAXIMUM knock....thank me later

    • @codexstudios
      @codexstudios 3 роки тому +1

      How to Subtronics be like

  • @anomalymusic1
    @anomalymusic1 4 роки тому +39

    "If you ain't red linin' you ain't Headlinin"

  • @ByMcCauley
    @ByMcCauley 4 роки тому +10

    I like your mix than the Industry Standard
    I believe there is no such thing as proper mix and you can do whatever you want it to sound like and thats the beauty of music. Its always about personal preference and how you want to express yourself.
    On the other side ,these cheat codes are helpful as you got a guide to go what you are going to do

  • @50CalBeats
    @50CalBeats 4 роки тому +69

    The entire existence of r/trapproduction summed up in 10 minutes
    Edit: midi pack

    • @WyattWinters
      @WyattWinters 4 роки тому +25

      Guys my Xfer Omnisphere says STEAM folder unauthorized how to fix this I'm running FL Studio Live on Windows Catilina plz help

    • @50CalBeats
      @50CalBeats 4 роки тому +20

      @@WyattWinters try install Sausage Fattener 👍 gl bro

    • @Silverisaiah
      @Silverisaiah 3 роки тому +1

      The only way to make good music is to use a midi pack.

  • @Asmongold_CatDany
    @Asmongold_CatDany 4 роки тому +47

    is that an xqc reference...............

    • @DylanTallchief
      @DylanTallchief  4 роки тому +26

      cheeto

    • @eloxo8701
      @eloxo8701 4 роки тому +1

      Hey catdany, I like your channel been following you forever. Can't believe I saw you here such a small world

  • @lxn7796
    @lxn7796 4 роки тому +13

    never been so early, love you Dylan!🙌

  • @rkken
    @rkken 4 роки тому +4

    i only use eq cheat sheets for instruments i've never mixed before. it helps to see what each of the defining qualities of something like a ukulele is and where abouts they reside in terms of frequency

    • @feelingevaporated2912
      @feelingevaporated2912 4 роки тому

      Spectrum analysis man

    • @rkken
      @rkken 4 роки тому

      @@feelingevaporated2912 spectrum analysis doesn't tell you about the features of instruments though. i use it, but it wouldn't work for this purpose

  • @killervacuum
    @killervacuum 4 роки тому +37

    Lol what if the person making the cheat sheet had default fruity limiter on and didn't know

  • @Yvory
    @Yvory 4 роки тому +3

    0:50 open-hat and 808 making faces at us

  • @equiaux
    @equiaux 4 роки тому +38

    Dylantallchief can you make a video on mixing and mastering , i trust you more than others

  • @TheNightquaker
    @TheNightquaker 3 роки тому +1

    I think these cheat sheets can indeed be a good starting point. Just something to start with and continue learning from there.

  • @flynn312
    @flynn312 2 роки тому +1

    Using a VU meter helps with this since it measures sound intensity by taking an average of the whole sound. During the peak meter comparison of the kick and snare, if a VU meter was used you would see the difference in perceived volume.

  • @user-lt2rw5nr9s
    @user-lt2rw5nr9s 4 роки тому +12

    I used to use specific DB levels for the kick, 808, and snare. Everything else was by ear though. I still changed percieved loudness with saturation/distortion. Ill probably keep my kick at -6db since I'm used to leveling around that, but I'm using my ears for everything else now. I know very well of the flaws of DB. You can have a 1hz sine wave at 0db and not hear it.

    • @martismartiis813
      @martismartiis813 4 роки тому +1

      that's cause human ears can't hear below 20hz

    • @samuelng6441
      @samuelng6441 4 роки тому +3

      @@martismartiis813 for me, I'm actually putting my kick at -12db, and my snare is probably at around -13 to -14db, sub at -15 to -17db (since I'm using 2-3 bass tracks layered together).
      In general, I aim to peak around -6.3 or -6.5db on my master fader.
      I felt that my mix sounded better and clearer after I adopted this method. Less is really more tbh. And you get to preserve your dynamics and not squash them.
      This is of course done after gain staging to -18dbfs though.

    • @anonymoususer2764
      @anonymoususer2764 3 роки тому

      Chokes in 2 db drums

    • @austinv3917
      @austinv3917 3 роки тому

      @@samuelng6441 professional mastering engineers actually prefer to receive a mix that peaks just below -6 , so I’d say you’re doing great

    • @samuelng6441
      @samuelng6441 3 роки тому

      @@austinv3917 eh 2021 update: I actually think that the -6db peak is a myth or fallacy. While it may help novices do as little damage to their mixes as possible, once you can do proper gain staging as well as understand digital audio, this -6db peak rule will only hold you back on making modern mixes; especially if you are looking to create loud mixes.
      What are your thoughts on this?

  • @JRodriguez
    @JRodriguez 2 роки тому

    I found that these kind of cheat sheets really helped me when I started out as a jump off point, and I guess it just comes down to how you take them on, like you mentioned they shouldn't be seen as law.

  • @zaidmomin3994
    @zaidmomin3994 4 роки тому +6

    Dylan Tallcheif:CHEAT MODE ACTIVATED

  • @rivage3900
    @rivage3900 4 роки тому

    Great mix Dylan, keep it up, proud of you!

  • @raitunes
    @raitunes 4 роки тому +2

    Finally! Some helpful mixing advice!

  • @SibaNL
    @SibaNL 4 роки тому +7

    I think the meters mix is pretty nice. In your mix the 808 is a bit loud. But for the rest, not really a big difference.

    • @TheMagicmagic290
      @TheMagicmagic290 3 роки тому

      The perc and snare fill is too loud on the meters mix though but yeah for sure it ess better than expected

  • @unickx5188
    @unickx5188 4 роки тому +4

    Your ears are your ultimate weapons! Don't fool them just by feeding some dank memes!

  • @saiyanshh
    @saiyanshh 4 роки тому +12

    Dylan is a very tall chief..... That sounded funnier in my head.

  • @CaliberBeats
    @CaliberBeats 4 роки тому +2

    i prefer your first mix, but i think the second mix sounded most professional with the tame bass and super punchy snare

  • @DrigordYT
    @DrigordYT 4 роки тому +1

    Tbh, not all cheat sheet are bad, there are some that really helps. I sometime try it for the sake of experiment, but if it sound bad then imma do it my self. Just keep in mind that this cheat sheet isn't for everything and everytime. Good video tho' :)

  • @almightyanonone6059
    @almightyanonone6059 3 роки тому +1

    Hands down without question, ur initial mix sounds exponentially better than the cheat sheet mix

  • @lowlight1063
    @lowlight1063 4 роки тому +1

    you actually like umm, asked me at around 4 minutes to type in comments what i think is better and i do agree with you dylan, i like your version of the trap beat more

  • @scifu7e91
    @scifu7e91 4 роки тому +1

    Some standards are good and other not, but in the end it's important that you like your work (noob, pro... however).
    Enjoy the days Dylan and everyone too 🎶🥤

  • @ysink
    @ysink 4 роки тому +3

    1:00 Industry Standart.

  • @KennyCleod
    @KennyCleod 3 роки тому +3

    The cheat sheet is only for beginners. In the end the mastering still comes to picture.

  • @tamlin434
    @tamlin434 4 роки тому +10

    HOW TO TOKYO MACHINE BASS HOUSE Maybe?

  •  3 роки тому +1

    I have one simple trick: be creative. Making a music from rules will make you same as any other music or ever worse, you have no chance to succeed by creating something based on simple rules. Just do what you do the best and try to make it sound good to yourself. You have to be judge by yourself. The big names producers are talented but they don't follow basic rules. Pretty much every music is a bit different from each other, that is because they don't follow the rules.

  • @NUHDUBZ
    @NUHDUBZ 4 роки тому +2

    Mr. Bill actually had a really in depth video on why we hear something like a dubstep kick as something louder than a short clicky hihat even when the hihat is peaking at say +10db and the kick is at -4 db. Perceived loudness is directly effected on the length of the sound as well as the actual volume of the sound. I gave kinda a pepega explanation so just go watch the Mr. Bill video lol.

    • @elieh.studio
      @elieh.studio 2 роки тому

      What's the title of the video?

    • @NUHDUBZ
      @NUHDUBZ 2 роки тому +1

      @@elieh.studio mr. bill masterclass at kmg

    • @elieh.studio
      @elieh.studio 2 роки тому

      @@NUHDUBZ Thank you

  • @ninjalemurdude
    @ninjalemurdude 4 роки тому

    It actually seems like a good reference. Not a rule or shortcut or anything, but something to give you a general idea of where things might sit in the mix (I'm assuming) after EQ and compression and before mastering. Most of my mixes would probably be pretty close to this.

  • @lyukyui
    @lyukyui 4 роки тому

    Honestly I kind of prefer the meters mix. Sounds clearer and more open.
    What those kinds of sheets are brilliant for, is as a starting point and as general guidelines for volume ranges.
    You set the tracks to about those levels with the faders at unity and start mixing from there.
    Gets you into the ballpark right away and from there you can make it sound awesome.

  • @KlaifTheBee
    @KlaifTheBee 4 роки тому +1

    "Cheat sheet" track hears mastered, but... I think it's individual for every melody, and you should balance every music by your feel, there are no "an Ideal number" or something like this.
    Developing musical feeling is great. It will help you so much in the future.

  • @ripple.music_
    @ripple.music_ 2 роки тому

    industry standard type beat lmao. killed me

  • @defectivepikachu4582
    @defectivepikachu4582 4 роки тому +4

    i want to see dylan make a cursed song

    • @ok-vy4pt
      @ok-vy4pt 4 роки тому

      Ngl I kinda do tho

  • @gurpreetrandhawa1093
    @gurpreetrandhawa1093 4 роки тому

    Great tutorial bro... specially time mentioned in your discrition.....👍👍👍👌👌👌

  • @Lov5music
    @Lov5music 4 роки тому

    That melody is insane bro

  • @BlugiYT
    @BlugiYT 4 роки тому +24

    That was the best intro of this video I have ever seen.
    -1/10

  • @Pandahydra
    @Pandahydra 4 роки тому +4

    This man can do anything with everything.

  • @aungyelin959
    @aungyelin959 4 роки тому

    Yr version ... is aggressive sounding that cool

  • @FreeTrick11
    @FreeTrick11 4 роки тому

    Finally someone is talking about these

  • @meessluis6035
    @meessluis6035 4 роки тому

    Best music channel out there 100%

  • @SuperHonkyPodcast
    @SuperHonkyPodcast 4 роки тому +4

    I'm always constipated.
    Sometimes there will even be blood on the toilet paper and in the water.
    I'm fairly certain this is not industry standart? 😨

  •  4 роки тому +3

    0:26 dude i was totally going to make a video out of that same image, damn

    • @BLKMND
      @BLKMND 4 роки тому +1

      There was a newer comment here about this post (since it's mine) so I'm just gonna copy the answer to that comment here.
      "Since it's my post on 0:25 I gotta agree with you, you understood it well. It was my bad as I wrote "Basic structure" instead of "Basic elements" so that's why this post was misunderstood. I just gotta say I feel sorry for the guy who made this video for trashing anyone instead of giving constructive criticism but I also salute him for making tutorials and sharing knowledge.
      Peace"

  • @mattiopattio
    @mattiopattio 4 роки тому +6

    LMAO i’m glad you covered this i was just thinking the other day about how dumb these are

  • @haysambakich8118
    @haysambakich8118 3 роки тому

    R. I. P head room

  • @apollobeats2007
    @apollobeats2007 4 роки тому

    Thank you for this

  • @djcj
    @djcj 4 роки тому

    love your video editing

  • @PorshiaVonne
    @PorshiaVonne 3 роки тому

    Industry standart 😂😂😂😂😂 I missed that one!

  • @sevenaries
    @sevenaries 4 роки тому

    Wow I didn't know I needed this but holy I did 🙏

  • @IAMMAT87
    @IAMMAT87 3 роки тому

    Layer everything on top of each other, loads of stacking. Cant go wrong

  • @parsa6330
    @parsa6330 4 роки тому

    thanks

  • @xyla4874
    @xyla4874 4 роки тому +2

    The first pic is about trap beat arrangement m pretty sure

  • @samuelivascu7633
    @samuelivascu7633 3 роки тому

    What i do is gainstage everything to -12, then choose a main element which is gonna be -12 then lower everything from there except the sub and the kick+snare. Which are more or less the same volume (depending on the song: -1 to -2 on the drums and 0 to -3 on the sub)

    • @Syneptic
      @Syneptic 3 роки тому

      Samuel Ivascu not sure if joke or not

    • @samuelivascu7633
      @samuelivascu7633 3 роки тому

      @@Syneptic kinda yes kinda not. Just do whatever you like. This works for me

  • @xannibalmusic9370
    @xannibalmusic9370 4 роки тому

    Just the video I wanted

  • @blossm4002
    @blossm4002 4 роки тому +2

    damn im early, and i needed this thanks Mr.Tallchief

  • @Canilho
    @Canilho 4 роки тому

    It's good to have a reference for your sound, and even more important to learn how to use your own ears.

  • @DBTHEPLUG
    @DBTHEPLUG 4 роки тому +1

    I just use my ears for every beat i mix

  • @Betazeta
    @Betazeta 4 роки тому +8

    Someone probably already explained but the trap cheat sheet is just a blueprint for arrangement

    • @23kgoat19
      @23kgoat19 3 роки тому

      Yeah pretty cringe he didn’t get it

  • @howir0n1c2
    @howir0n1c2 4 роки тому

    The thing is the peaking values on the meter don't at all correspond to the actual loudness... that's why things like RMS & K-curves exist. Some sounds are naturally louder based on frequency content, which is why when you distort a sound, it sounds louder despite peaking lower on the meter.
    btw your mix definitely sounds cleaner than the meter mix

  • @juanito_bamboo
    @juanito_bamboo 4 роки тому

    Super interesting vídeo. It would be cool doing it about other generes!

  • @YKAYNJ
    @YKAYNJ 4 роки тому

    Good start I guess

  • @efeogheney
    @efeogheney 3 роки тому

    I think the picture @ 0:28 is a playlist/setup/structure of your track. Hope this helps, not sure 100 % though but it's my best guess.

  • @SlayPlenty
    @SlayPlenty 4 роки тому

    My fav was the slow outro version omfg firah

  • @astral_haze
    @astral_haze 3 роки тому

    as a dj i have no idea what the point loudness meters even is bbecause they dont seem to give any sorta usable information and using them for setting gain will just get you drastic inconsistency in how loud tracks actually sound so i just do all of that by ear, since in the end music is for subjective enjoyment, so i guess a subjective judgement of loudness is what i may as well go with

  • @lieutenantpepper2734
    @lieutenantpepper2734 3 роки тому

    Industry standart mix!

  • @cjthegifted
    @cjthegifted 3 роки тому

    Everyone has their thing... I like that fact that a new producer can come into the game now and not know a single thing about the mixing process and follow a guide like this. To be honest even the producers that have been making music for some time now and never had a good mix, it helps them achieve a better mix. Everything is subjective and to a personal desire at the end of the day. I would much rather someone start with a guide and work from there rather than not use one and go off a beginners perspective of a mix.

    • @Yuzuki1337
      @Yuzuki1337 3 роки тому

      Both approaches are valuable in my opinion. Cheat sheets help new producers get ideas rough guidelines and approaches they probably wouldn't have figured out on their own (until years down the line). Blindly experimenting helps them grow more comfortable with their ears and their equipment/environment though.

  • @xelerator2398
    @xelerator2398 4 роки тому +2

    I use Ohmicide for the industry standart of HARD ELECTRO!!!

  • @rei2805
    @rei2805 4 роки тому

    i think your own mix will sounds great if there are no vocal...but if it has a vocal,i prefer the lesser 808 one.
    really nice vids,this is just what i wanted to try someday haha.

  • @peterblatte2808
    @peterblatte2808 4 роки тому

    I subbed blindly rn based upon the title..I think see where you’re going tho

  • @DarkMetaOFFICIAL
    @DarkMetaOFFICIAL 3 роки тому

    Great video man! Just, the only thing is, this all seems to be pretty standart information.

  • @musiclifer7297
    @musiclifer7297 2 роки тому

    🥶🥶

  • @zyrk7627
    @zyrk7627 4 роки тому

    When it comes to cheat sheets with actual values for volume then yes, they are trash and you shouldn't follow them. But there are solid cheat sheets out there for like example, EQ's, that give you a small rundown of what certain regions do and those are something you can definitely follow for a good start. Yes, you still have to get yourself trained in order to listen for the subtle nuances but I also think that it really depends on what kind of cheat sheet you're using.

  • @lowellmason4562
    @lowellmason4562 3 роки тому

    I've watched you today for the first time and I had to sub😅😅😅😅😅this was perfect man

  • @slurpii4142
    @slurpii4142 4 роки тому +4

    I think I'm the only one here who came to learn something
    I suck at mixing

    • @switchi8663
      @switchi8663 4 роки тому

      My friend you are not alone

  • @totoplz
    @totoplz 4 роки тому +1

    Could you do more mixing tips videos?

  • @Azix09
    @Azix09 2 роки тому

    1:38 I watched this part twice to understand

  • @KristoferProphet
    @KristoferProphet 4 роки тому

    I would like to know exactly how old school guys and gals mixed music without all these fancy gimmicky plugins, like “stereo wideners” and etc. How did they get such fullness, depth and etc. and how exactly did they do it.

  • @CestLaVie73
    @CestLaVie73 4 роки тому

    What about pink noise mixing? Maybe that is best way to get mix levels right.

  • @paulisawesome10
    @paulisawesome10 4 роки тому +1

    I record bands and when you are recording you actually do kind of follow one of those decibal cheat sheets. Like for example you want the kick to peak around -10db and you want to master to be around 0. But when mixing imo it is always most important to go by your ears

    • @user-lt2rw5nr9s
      @user-lt2rw5nr9s 4 роки тому +1

      When recording that does make sense though, since you don't want to clip the mic.

  • @BENCH-TEST
    @BENCH-TEST 4 роки тому +1

    I really like your voice

  • @LiMCRiMZ
    @LiMCRiMZ 3 роки тому

    The tiny click vs. huge kick example actively made me flinch each time the kick was played even knowing damn well what was about to happen.

  • @190mitchidproductions7
    @190mitchidproductions7 4 роки тому

    I genuinely prefer the fader mix, it hits harder at higher volumes on analog stuff

  • @petyahpererva5805
    @petyahpererva5805 4 роки тому

    so is there a correct or suggested cheat sheet .maybe you should make one ?