@@justgoldman1826 yes, rdr2 has a lot of that, especially song sequences like Cruel Cruel World. Unshaken is great though no complaints about that, fitting song
@@ezioassassain I'd argue they find realism novel on paper, but find it gets boring fast in practice. And only when arcade elements/creative liberties are injected in, they begin to have more fun
You need to learn more about westerns cause RDr2 depicts western life far more accurate RDR1 depicts spaghetti westerns more, which is its own brand. Not the only type of western stories
RDR1 in general has an atmosphere that's very different from 2. The whole game, you feel as if you're alone in the world. Almost like the whole game could take place in John's purgatory. There's an uncanny valley nature to the game, which is helped by the music. Helped by how many people you meet in Stranger missions are basically insane.
Yeah the amount of crazy stranger missions and the eerily divine stuff like the strange man being Cain from the Bible makes it feel kinda like Stephen King’s book “The Gunslinger”
Exactly. You've voiced something I had on my mind for years now but couldn't describe. The eeriness, loneliness, and the melancholy of that game are something I really miss in rdr2 and gaming in general. I really like the setting and the story of rdr2, but sometimes I wonder what if they went westward. What if the gang wasn't around. What if it was still a lonely and a surreal journey through a hostile land with little civilization and sparse settlements. Wish they'd make the 3rd game like that
Rdr1 communicates the feeling of isolation really well with its lonesome whistles and steadily creaking instrumentals. Rdr2 has a full gang of people as its main cast so it makes sense that they wouldn’t want to make you feel lonely when you’re in a big posse of outlaws, rambling across the country. I think both soundtracks have their merits
Nothing, absolutely nothing beats "far away" from Jose Gonzales moment when you enter Mexico in Rd1. You are not expecting it and it is just one of the best moments in video games ever. Rdr2 Soundtrack is beautiful but not the same level as Rdr1.
When I was a kid, and I beat the game. I was always on edge by the music, thinking somebody was gonna come out and rob Beecher's Hope. Weird to say, but that's a feeling I got often.
The thing with the RDR1 soundtrack is that every region has its score around A minor scale, and the RDR composers separated by layers those tracks, and somehow they share the same bpm. The thing is that, depending on the location or the situation of the character, slight different versions of the same score (with more or less layers) will sound, and you can be in a very chilly situation that suddenly the situation and the music changes but some layers from seconds ago will remain and it merges perfectly to the whole new situation. It’s such an awesome and brilliant concept.
thing is they don't talka bout it being the same , it's just better on rdr 1 , same one , different version , new one , doesn't matter it still way better ambient music in rdr 1
GTA 4 2008 and rdr1 2010 I believe will always be rockstars best work they hit the atmosphere right on the head we were so privileged to experience these games together
I’d agree w the setting and story too; rdr2 had us running from the snowy Rockies to the Appalachians and the swamps of Louisiana, 2/3 of rdr1 was Texas and Mexico
i met my very good friends of many years from rdr1 multiplayer poker, we would hang out in free roam all the time, and from there we went on to play great games like bad company 2, battlefield 3, gta 5 etc, would hang out in party chat all hours of the night laughing at movie trailers, talking about singleplayer games like skyrim or the witcher 2 - i really have an eternal debt of gratitude to red dead 1 for all the memories
every summer i always replay Red Dead Redemption 1. right now i'm replaying again which i'm at Mexico doing side missions before i do the main missions.
Red Dead 2 is supposed to be the continuation to what occurred in Blackwater but you’re still living the life you knew with a family. In Red Dead 1, you’re putting everything you once knew behind, but mainly, you’re completely alone while doing it. Red dead 1 has always felt lonely, most games released at that time did, so I think the soundtrack is appropriate.
When you're at beetcher's with your family, it's really great. But i wish we had more missions (activities too, like throwing horseshoes with jack for exemple...) to really feel like we are home, no more alone But we really have this loneliness feeling throughout the game, even if we meet people and all, then chill with our family, and then as jack feeling lonely more than in any other game imo
Idk, the music in rdr1 is more movie-like, draws a lot of attention by trying to set the mood. The music in rdr2 is more life-like and it blends so much better. Rdr1 ambient paints the picture while rdr2 ambient fills/completes the already existing picture created by the surrounding landscape, it does it in a beautifully soft and unintrusive way. Rdr1 music makes me feel like I'm immersed into an imaginative setting, like a movie or a book, while traversing the country in rdr2 with it's ambient feels like I'm truly there as if it's all real
I played Red Dead at 10 years old and it changed me. I then played Red Dead 2 at 18 and it changed me again. These games taught me more about human flaws, psychological greed of man, loyalty, honour.. than any school. It taught me good people do bad things, and bad people can pretend to be your friend. John and Arthurs story revolve around Dutch and his decline. The mental illness of their mentor and eventual realization of themselves as their own man, with their own code. It's depressingly beautiful. Just like human nature
@avalonmark_ and why is that? Because its violent? Like every other type of media out in the world? I bet you watched westerns as a child. Same difference. Jog on
@@avalonmark_ Nothin wrong for some characters. My parents allowed me in that age see films like Alien, Terminator, Die Hard,... me and my friends loved it.
Something to note is how the whole RDR1 soundtrack is made in A minor, which helps so much to create familiarity between the tracks. Words cannot describe how the music of that game made me feel. RDR2 music felt really uninspired instead (I'd even dare to say mediocre although that seems a bit harsh), despite venturing into other keys
It's ok, you're allowed to criticize RDR2. I'd go as far as to say RDR2 was one of the most disappointing games of all time. As someone who played through RDR1 several times and got 100%, it's easy to say I'm nostalgia biased but also people have recency bias. I appreciate the insane effort and attention to detail Rockstar made with RDR2 but in no way is it a better game. It's not even close.
@@stephenp2174 I disagree with you regarding your statement that RDR2 is inferior, I'd instead advocate that RDR2 plays to different strengths than RDR does. Although RDR does have a better story and "western" esque atmosphere, I believe that RDR2 makes up for those elements in terms of its open world design.
@@stephenp2174I agree, when rdr2 came out it was huge and everybody just loved it. Having played the first game before it left something to be desired. The combat and ragdoll physics were disappointing compared to rdr1. It took some years but people are now seeing how damn classic the first game is
@@julienvalley28 lol I'm sick of that argument too. "It's not worse, just different." There's nothing RDR2 did open world wise, that RDR1 didn't already do better. I.e bounty hunting, cheating at poker, hunting... holding buttons to get different dialogue during "random encounters" isn't better.
@@stephenp2174 My god FINALLY someone that says the truth, THANK YOU!! In my case nostalgia doesn't work because I played RDR1 for the first time in 2017, one year before RDR2 came out. And I prefer RDR1 by far!
there's just something about rdr1's ambiance that draws me in more than the second one does, despite the graphical impairment and janky animations it just feels more vibey and artistic than the late one, most likely due the color palette and skybox, the sad thing that i've been noticing in the graphical direction videogames are taking is that they're progressively enhancing in graphical fidelity on the other hand losing that artistic charm, its literally happening in every single videogame ever and it just fills me with dissapointment games are getting more blander and uninspired trying to reach that graphical magnum opus, making everything look grounded and highly detailed while missing that incredible immersive aesthetic and lightning that made them standout they be focusing more on photorealism than anything they just won't understand that artstyle and lightning is what makes a game timeless rather than any clarity or 4k textures they can pull off
Yes, I agree. Not only that, but current games are also poorly optimized and consume a lot of power, forcing you to always have better hardware on your PC in order to play.
rdr1 was also trying to be realistic, its just that they focused on different aesthetics and styles, rdr2 is a beautifully stylized game, people think a game with style means it has to have unrealistic or heavily stylized graphics but that's not true, rdr2 still has a style, and even tho its hard to describe, you do feel it, i think it has something to do with how smooth the image looks, the textures from up close look like they're bad quality but staring at a view in the game just looks beautiful, rdr 2 focused on the wilderness and the beauty of nature, and no game feels more alive in that sense, while rdr1 focused on its inspirations from teh old cowboy movies, they both have different styles and they pulled them off perfectly, rdr2 is not worse, it's just difference
Of course I love rdr2 and still play it…but the ATMOSPHERE, the vibe, of RDR1 is so deep, so eerie, so compelling that it makes it feel bigger than it really is. Still my favorite on ambience alone
@@precisism1804of a sprawling, low intensity open world game, I would say 100%. A lot of modern open world games (Ubisoft)just take a single player action games mechanics and stick it into an open world, giving the illusion that open world is always better. But for me open world's are meant to be lived in, explored and felt. Music, art design,, a likeable main character, solid writing, and interesting characters and locations to find are what make an open world for me.
I have this very intense nostalgia when I play rdr1 now. It’s so special to me. I miss those days getting up early in the morning and turning on my Xbox 360. You just had to be there. Wish we could go back to those times. They were something
Also notice in this video how cool the lighting in RDR1 looks. Perhaps less realistic, but that haze somehow it looks more like how you’d imagine that landscape to. The bright white buildings in Mexico look stunning. Fascinating how our mind works like that
Fact ! Rdr1 is still unmatched in its genre, the musics and songs too. I keep being impressed that this game is so great while having only 2 years of development and there was some difficulties during its development... I think it's my fav game ever too, the story is perfect and so sad, the atmosphere is really great, the gameplay dynamic ( i still play from time to time because the feeling in shootouts is still amazing) It's the perfect western game and john marston is the greatest character i've seen
Word brother, i remember being so obsessed with RDR2 for 3 years when it finally came out , then went back to RDR1 just to remember old times and didn’t realize how bad RDR2 really is compared to the first one. RDR1 is just better in every way.
I absolutely love the soundtracks of both games, it’s hard for me to pick a favorite. Both soundtracks suit their respective games perfectly and neither of them ever get old to me
@@blakbear6528 yes that's true. Rdr2 has a bigger map ( with no western deserts until the end of the game) , graphisms and there's more details for hunting... But there's not much better things. I like rdr1 story more, the cinematics feel more real, the dialogues and all. John has more depth and is more complexe, the side characters are overall better (charles and others are great though) . Side content are less restricted in rdr1, you can do things like cheating... Gunfights are better (more nervous with details like shooting in legs), even the cover system works better, you can easily still take shots while in cover in rdr2. In rdr1, we really feel the lonelyness john feels, then jack in the end My com is too long, but just yeah, i really agree. People saying rdr2 improves in everything just don't know what they're saying
@@blakbear6528better ending, better music. Outside of that rdr2 wins honestly. The level of realism and attention to detail in the environments, as well as the brilliance of the story and dialogue... Grew up playing rdr1, but the story is pretty generic if you revisit it, and the environment is dead as hell in comparison to rdr2.
After I nearly 100% RDR2 I went back and replayed RDR1. I was expecting to be disappointed but honestly I can confidently say that I like RDR1 way more.
Also better ragdoll physics, better ambiance, better music, gunfights are way more intense, horses are faster and you don’t have to micromanage them with a useless hunger/cleaning mechanic, no annoying gun cleaning mechanics, no 20 minute unrealistic animal skinning animations, RDR1 is just an amazing shooter from simpler times baby❤. On top of all it has one of the best zombie DLCs of all time which gives you extra hours of playtime in the endgame.
@@TheMrCHELL Because of the controls not being suited for PC. Although I think they were just pulling some BS because they were too lazy and now they need some more money to work on GTA 6.
Agree deeply, rdr1 has music for every single state and location. Rdr2 plays the same exact music over and over again it gets boring and annoying fast. One of the many things rdr1 did better than 2
@@BeatleHarrison Oh please show me where it “shows” I didn’t play RDR1 You need better perception skills. I played it since 2010 and over the years leading up to 2. Shocker I just greatly prefer RDR2 and thought that it outdid it in every way. You lack the comprehension that someone that played RDR1 first can still think RDR2 was far better
The tall trees ambience feels eerie and cold. Knowing that Dutch was there, it kind of fits because we know that a Dutch turned into an eerie and cold serial killer.
You guys are STILL salty about this? There are other great games out there, y'know. Red Dead is not the be-all, end-all of video game franchises. RDR's fan base has become honestly quite cult-like over the years and it's kinda pathetic.
I didn't even watch the video and already gave it a thumbs up just for the title. The music in RDR is way better than RDR2. I still listen to the songs 14 years later, that says everything
Meanwhile you can hear New Austin themes on main menu in RDR2. And hear Mexico music near border (first time i heard after Jeremy Gill got dragged by big fish, it was one with trumpet).
something i noticed in RDR2 is that the closer you get to the end of the game and for john missions the music changes to sounding more RDR1 style. Its a great little detail.
Rdr1 music is like classic western movie inspired Rdr2 music is more like the music of the nature and something which describes the character personality of the protagonist! I love both of them!❤❤❤
In the end, I was saying that the themes of RDR1 are better, but looking back, I’d say that yes, they remain the most fitting for the dusty environment of RDR1, which literally takes place in a region resembling or referencing Texas, Arizona, or New Mexico. RDR2, on the other hand, is clearly more focused on forested and mountainous environments, like Montana, Colorado, Nebraska, or even Washington State, Georgia, Kentucky, or North Carolina. So, in the end, the themes are indeed well-suited in RDR2, which ultimately means Rockstar didn’t miss the mark as much as I initially thought. I feel both OSTs have their own charm, even though, yes, I clearly have a preference for the first one.
Wish they took an extra year to cook with rdr2. It's an absolutely fantastic game, but there are a few loose ends that have obviously been rushed, and it's a massive shame
I think the game has a lot of stuff, yes the New Austin part of the map is lackluster, so is Guarma, but honestly the main game itself is pretty great in my opinion
Agree with both replies. I love this game, it's phenomenal. There are just a few issues that seem to stem from crunch time and stress, which led to easy cheap solutions and half-finished features. It's far from a huge problem though, as I said.
You know what they could have done was put Rdr 2’s Great Plains soundtrack on the strawberry side of west Elizabeth and put Rdr 1’s Great Plains soundtrack on the Rdr 1 side of west Elizabeth and keep the other soundtracks at the places that aren’t accessible in Rdr 1 and put Rdr 1’s new Austin soundtrack in new Austin so we have both in the game but R* don’t know how to listen to fans they spoil gta online too much you modders are so lucky yall can just add the rdr1 soundtrack into the game
Interesting comparison. Thanks for taking the time to make this. I still haven't played RDR1 for fear of crap mechanics and graphics after loving RDR2, but it doesn't look as bad as I thought.
This is 110% the case. Just re-played through Undead Nightmare & I can’t get enough of the music. RDR2 is my favorite game of all-time, but RDR’s music was far superior👍
@@LEMOnBRaINnPeople dickriding the RDR1 soundtrack so hard but the music in New Austin was the exact same and played over and over, I couldn’t wait to get to Mexico to hear something else.
i always thought this too. rdr1's music is more memorable to me. the tranisitions between idle, combat and going into different environments feel more memorable in rdr1. but rdr2 is generally a better game.
I love RDR2 but there are some details that the previous game did better. The music for one. The supporting characters are more memorable. And some of the locations from Mexico were really neat
tall trees ambient music in RDR1 always creeped me out as a kid. even now, i always feel like i’m on high alert whenever i enter tall trees. it’s kind of unsettling
Having a preference is perfectly fine but I wouldn't say either is better than the other, RDR 1 felt like you were in a Western movie, the story, the characters, the world and hell even the graphics, it all fits that theme whereas RDR 2 is a very realistic game and depiction of the West so I think in both cases the ambience suits and fits fine.
Without a doubt RDR1 has a more western feel to it, hard to explain. It really fits the mood, because RDR1 always felt more somber and alone than RDR2 overall (which makes sense since John doesn't really have a gang anymore, and family was taken), and the music reflects that mood. RDR2's music is nice, but it felt a bit more upbeat by comparison. Also, as absolutely beautiful as RDR2's graphics are, the duller colours of RDR1 actually fits that game's mood a fair bit better and feels a bit more like a western somehow.
RDR1 is simply the superior game. I've had several playthroughs separated by years because I missed the world; I had to regularly remind myself I paid $60 for RDR2 to finish it. Beautiful world with little atmosphere and nothing interesting to do other than the main story which needed several more editing passes.
Little atmosphere? That's crazy to me man, the environments were so varied, the lighting and the weather was utterly lifelike. The environments were swelling with so many animals that moved and acted realistically, that I regularly had to stop playing and just watch the screen in absolute awe of how real it seemed.
You’re joking right? Little atmosphere with nothing interesting to do other than main story?? Did you just not go into shacks and houses and explore them? Hunting, fishing, collecting, camping and crafting, study animals/landmarks, did you not read Arthur’s journal after he made new entries? You’re blinded by nostalgia and it’s okay to admit that. Having played RDR1 AFTER RDR2 (no nostalgia-bias here), the world of RDR2 is superior.. the interactions you can have with the world and NPCs, you can actually interact and care for your horse, you have to feed Arthur, the amount of side missions, random encounters, Easter eggs, challenges, and things to study are insane amounts more than anything you can do in RDR2. R* easily could’ve made it the same as RDR1’s, boring, desolate, and nothing much to do other than story missions. You can prefer one game over the other, but saying RDR1 is the superior game and the second game has no atmosphere or things to do is just wrong.
RDR1’s music was loosely based on Red Dead Revolver which was literally supposed to be a tribute to western films. RDR2 was something completely different.
The Great Plains/Tall Trees ambient music in RDR1 always creeped me out. It gives you the feeling something bad is about to happen even before you find out that something bad IS about to happen.
I always found incredible to not see more people saying the same, I truly loved the western background music of the first game and the second fails a bit on that.
I’m so glad people are recognizing the brilliance of RDR1. No disrespect to RDR2, but RDR1 atmosphere is so memorable and distinct. The spaghetti western aura is unmatched. RDR2 goes for more contemporary western which is more subtle in tone.
SOMEONE FINALLY SAID IT!!!! the ambient music in RDR2 was something i was really disappointed in, it essentially only plays the exact same song, i especially cant stand that heartlands one, you know the one im talking about
Hopefully Rdr 3 will be set right back when the gang first started out. I'm hoping we play one of the calender brother because they sound tough as old boots
Wish they used the RDR2 soundtrack to its fullest. It's so underappreciated, because it isn't showcased much. Probably one of the best soundtracks of all time.
I prefer 1s atmosphere. 2 does something a lot of games and media do when they wanna sound southern / cowboy ; they just add a bunch of banjos to everything and they don't even play them appropriately (I used to be obsessed with old American folk culture back in the day so I've heard a lot of music from back then)... Sure the style 1 uses isn't accurate either but it's original as opposed to trying to be something that actually exists but executed poorly. Like rdr2 music sounds like it could be in far cry 5 and vice versa. Rdr1 gives of way more atmosphere and supposedly Rockstar got some old timey western composer to do it (I remember they had a trailer about that back when rdr1 came out)
I love both. RDR1 leans more into spaghetti western vibes (which is fun), rdr2 has a larger and more varied map and the soundtrack lets you soak in everything. Less cliche.
Not only is the music in RDR1 better then 2 but the dialogue in 1 is also better. RDR2 has great dialogue but 1 is more funny and captures the wild west like the classic sayings you'd get in a spaghetti western.
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Rdr1 ambient music: wild west
Rdr2 ambient music: wild life
This is the perfect comment that explains the difference between RDR1 music and RDR2
Great bro!
Yeah, just came to comments to say I think the reason the music in rdr2 is much more airy is that it gives the wildlife room to speak.
RDR2's is more like generic county music
@@lepersonnage371wtf, do you even know what country music is?
@@justgoldman1826 yes, rdr2 has a lot of that, especially song sequences like Cruel Cruel World. Unshaken is great though no complaints about that, fitting song
RDR1 literally makes you feel like you're inside one of those Clint Eastwood westerns
It's incredible
Because its based more on a spaghetti western while rdr2 was more realistic
Just wait until you play Red Dead Revolver. That was back when R* had more creativity and semblance of fun than just "realism"
@@JGUA-cam0some people find realistic games more fun than arcade
and rdr2 is extra boring
@@ezioassassain I'd argue they find realism novel on paper, but find it gets boring fast in practice. And only when arcade elements/creative liberties are injected in, they begin to have more fun
Rdr1 feels more like a cool old western movie compared to rdr2 which is something I really miss
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You need to learn more about westerns cause RDr2 depicts western life far more accurate
RDR1 depicts spaghetti westerns more, which is its own brand. Not the only type of western stories
Actually RDR 2's ambient is the real, and most accurate one.
RDR 1 is spaghetti western
@@Indigo_1001 yea that’s what I’m talking about like a old western movie
@@blj8915 But you said "real western" spaghetti/old western movies are NOT real western.
RDR1 in general has an atmosphere that's very different from 2. The whole game, you feel as if you're alone in the world. Almost like the whole game could take place in John's purgatory. There's an uncanny valley nature to the game, which is helped by the music. Helped by how many people you meet in Stranger missions are basically insane.
@@MuchWhittering as if john never survived the shot he took at fort mercer, and then is in his purgatory as you said
"John's purgatory" 😂 you made an effort today, didn't you?
Yeah the amount of crazy stranger missions and the eerily divine stuff like the strange man being Cain from the Bible makes it feel kinda like Stephen King’s book “The Gunslinger”
@@connorsoileau4763yesss, Dark Tower mentioned, I loved Gunslinger's atmosphere as well
Exactly. You've voiced something I had on my mind for years now but couldn't describe. The eeriness, loneliness, and the melancholy of that game are something I really miss in rdr2 and gaming in general.
I really like the setting and the story of rdr2, but sometimes I wonder what if they went westward. What if the gang wasn't around. What if it was still a lonely and a surreal journey through a hostile land with little civilization and sparse settlements. Wish they'd make the 3rd game like that
The Tall trees ambient music is the creepiest
The creepiest of all ambient musics is the Roanoke and Bayou Nwa ambient musics
In both games Tall Trees ambient music Is scary af
Ninja bears and because of color.
They really look scary when you take a close look on heir faces.
@@liammanuell7516 Especially at night with the Skinners there, a scary theme starts playing.
and annesburg. if we are talking about rdr2
Rdr1 communicates the feeling of isolation really well with its lonesome whistles and steadily creaking instrumentals. Rdr2 has a full gang of people as its main cast so it makes sense that they wouldn’t want to make you feel lonely when you’re in a big posse of outlaws, rambling across the country. I think both soundtracks have their merits
2 is missing the iconic spaghetti westerns whistle man.
Damn... low blow for RDR2.
It’s not a spaghetti western that’s why.
2 isn’t based on spaghetti westerns like 1 is..
Yeah but you can brush your horse. Checkmate atheist
@@jgunner94Nobody said it was dumbazzz
Nothing, absolutely nothing beats "far away" from Jose Gonzales moment when you enter Mexico in Rd1. You are not expecting it and it is just one of the best moments in video games ever. Rdr2 Soundtrack is beautiful but not the same level as Rdr1.
Love that part and when Dutch Jumps off the cliff riding back that music is awesome
Unshaken from when you return from Guarma is pretty close if not better.
best moment that could’ve happened to me I seen mostly everyone get off there horse
Compass is better
Yep the Compass moment hitted the best imo.
When I was a kid, and I beat the game. I was always on edge by the music, thinking somebody was gonna come out and rob Beecher's Hope. Weird to say, but that's a feeling I got often.
Yes me too, the game was creepy in a very different way than rdr2
the blackwater ambience was terrifying
Edging???
@@Yeahimman32 Yes, I was on edge while edging Man.
Is there a lore reason?
The thing with the RDR1 soundtrack is that every region has its score around A minor scale, and the RDR composers separated by layers those tracks, and somehow they share the same bpm. The thing is that, depending on the location or the situation of the character, slight different versions of the same score (with more or less layers) will sound, and you can be in a very chilly situation that suddenly the situation and the music changes but some layers from seconds ago will remain and it merges perfectly to the whole new situation. It’s such an awesome and brilliant concept.
thing is they don't talka bout it being the same , it's just better on rdr 1 , same one , different version , new one , doesn't matter it still way better ambient music in rdr 1
Adaptive music. Breath of The Wild's is arguably the best. There's a great video on it somewhere.
@@AnadonAyleid Doom's adaptive music is probably better, there's a whole explanation of how it works by its composer, look it up, you'll like it
@@DaxanDaxter cool thansk
A minorrrrrrrrrrrr 🤠
GTA 4 2008 and rdr1 2010 I believe will always be rockstars best work they hit the atmosphere right on the head we were so privileged to experience these games together
1000% agreed
Same goes for LA noir in my opinion. That era is unmatched
Those are the two I grew up with, they will always be the best to me. Their tone is unmatched
Rdr1 released in 2010, won game of the year.
I always thought RD1 had better cowboy vibes than RD2. Also the music of RD1 reminds me of 2011 Xbox era🥲
I think that's mostly because of the map, rdr1 being the most western side of rdr2's map
Me too ❤
I’d agree w the setting and story too; rdr2 had us running from the snowy Rockies to the Appalachians and the swamps of Louisiana, 2/3 of rdr1 was Texas and Mexico
@@chapchap9180Not the Appalachians, lol. The Ozarks-adjacent highland forests of Missouri and I forget the other state.
i met my very good friends of many years from rdr1 multiplayer poker, we would hang out in free roam all the time, and from there we went on to play great games like bad company 2, battlefield 3, gta 5 etc, would hang out in party chat all hours of the night laughing at movie trailers, talking about singleplayer games like skyrim or the witcher 2 - i really have an eternal debt of gratitude to red dead 1 for all the memories
Rdr1 Macfarlane’s ranch music sounds so good.
México ❤
Miss all the Mexico ambience
Gives me a MGS vibe to it
it always makes me hungry for Mexican food lmaooo
Honestly, I didn't like the mexico part of the game. I couldn't wait to get back north again.
Not me.
Mexico was worst.
Now New Austin is Mexico in RDR2.
@@SeriousDragonify i loved new austin in rdr2, really wish it had more storyy time.
every summer i always replay Red Dead Redemption 1. right now i'm replaying again which i'm at Mexico doing side missions before i do the main missions.
When you arrive to Mexico. One of the best parts of the game.
Bro I do the same. It’s my summer holiday ritual.
Same but every Halloween I replay Undead Nightmare
@@Ronin777z i thought about do that on Halloween.
@@Mac-wv8uk yeah. playing it feels summer vibes to it.
Red Dead 2 is supposed to be the continuation to what occurred in Blackwater but you’re still living the life you knew with a family. In Red Dead 1, you’re putting everything you once knew behind, but mainly, you’re completely alone while doing it. Red dead 1 has always felt lonely, most games released at that time did, so I think the soundtrack is appropriate.
When you're at beetcher's with your family, it's really great. But i wish we had more missions (activities too, like throwing horseshoes with jack for exemple...) to really feel like we are home, no more alone
But we really have this loneliness feeling throughout the game, even if we meet people and all, then chill with our family, and then as jack feeling lonely more than in any other game imo
Idk, the music in rdr1 is more movie-like, draws a lot of attention by trying to set the mood. The music in rdr2 is more life-like and it blends so much better. Rdr1 ambient paints the picture while rdr2 ambient fills/completes the already existing picture created by the surrounding landscape, it does it in a beautifully soft and unintrusive way. Rdr1 music makes me feel like I'm immersed into an imaginative setting, like a movie or a book, while traversing the country in rdr2 with it's ambient feels like I'm truly there as if it's all real
I played Red Dead at 10 years old and it changed me. I then played Red Dead 2 at 18 and it changed me again. These games taught me more about human flaws, psychological greed of man, loyalty, honour.. than any school. It taught me good people do bad things, and bad people can pretend to be your friend. John and Arthurs story revolve around Dutch and his decline. The mental illness of their mentor and eventual realization of themselves as their own man, with their own code. It's depressingly beautiful. Just like human nature
you shouldn't have played a game like that at 10
@avalonmark_ and why is that? Because its violent? Like every other type of media out in the world? I bet you watched westerns as a child. Same difference.
Jog on
@@avalonmark_ Nothin wrong for some characters. My parents allowed me in that age see films like Alien, Terminator, Die Hard,... me and my friends loved it.
It's pretty sad you learned those things from videogames
@@KoylTrane The source is not decisive from where you learnt what. It's the content that counts. When he learnded something good than it cant be bad.
100 PERCENT!!! I was wondering why more people are not talking about it.
Something to note is how the whole RDR1 soundtrack is made in A minor, which helps so much to create familiarity between the tracks. Words cannot describe how the music of that game made me feel. RDR2 music felt really uninspired instead (I'd even dare to say mediocre although that seems a bit harsh), despite venturing into other keys
It's ok, you're allowed to criticize RDR2. I'd go as far as to say RDR2 was one of the most disappointing games of all time. As someone who played through RDR1 several times and got 100%, it's easy to say I'm nostalgia biased but also people have recency bias. I appreciate the insane effort and attention to detail Rockstar made with RDR2 but in no way is it a better game. It's not even close.
@@stephenp2174 I disagree with you regarding your statement that RDR2 is inferior, I'd instead advocate that RDR2 plays to different strengths than RDR does. Although RDR does have a better story and "western" esque atmosphere, I believe that RDR2 makes up for those elements in terms of its open world design.
@@stephenp2174I agree, when rdr2 came out it was huge and everybody just loved it. Having played the first game before it left something to be desired. The combat and ragdoll physics were disappointing compared to rdr1. It took some years but people are now seeing how damn classic the first game is
@@julienvalley28 lol I'm sick of that argument too. "It's not worse, just different." There's nothing RDR2 did open world wise, that RDR1 didn't already do better. I.e bounty hunting, cheating at poker, hunting... holding buttons to get different dialogue during "random encounters" isn't better.
@@stephenp2174 My god FINALLY someone that says the truth, THANK YOU!!
In my case nostalgia doesn't work because I played RDR1 for the first time in 2017, one year before RDR2 came out. And I prefer RDR1 by far!
there's just something about rdr1's ambiance that draws me in more than the second one does, despite the graphical impairment and janky animations it just feels more vibey and artistic than the late one, most likely due the color palette and skybox, the sad thing that i've been noticing in the graphical direction videogames are taking is that they're progressively enhancing in graphical fidelity on the other hand losing that artistic charm, its literally happening in every single videogame ever and it just fills me with dissapointment
games are getting more blander and uninspired trying to reach that graphical magnum opus, making everything look grounded and highly detailed while missing that incredible immersive aesthetic and lightning that made them standout
they be focusing more on photorealism than anything they just won't understand that artstyle and lightning is what makes a game timeless rather than any clarity or 4k textures they can pull off
Yes, I agree. Not only that, but current games are also poorly optimized and consume a lot of power, forcing you to always have better hardware on your PC in order to play.
rdr1 was also trying to be realistic, its just that they focused on different aesthetics and styles, rdr2 is a beautifully stylized game, people think a game with style means it has to have unrealistic or heavily stylized graphics but that's not true, rdr2 still has a style, and even tho its hard to describe, you do feel it, i think it has something to do with how smooth the image looks, the textures from up close look like they're bad quality but staring at a view in the game just looks beautiful, rdr 2 focused on the wilderness and the beauty of nature, and no game feels more alive in that sense, while rdr1 focused on its inspirations from teh old cowboy movies, they both have different styles and they pulled them off perfectly, rdr2 is not worse, it's just difference
Of course I love rdr2 and still play it…but the ATMOSPHERE, the vibe, of RDR1 is so deep, so eerie, so compelling that it makes it feel bigger than it really is. Still my favorite on ambience alone
I’ve always said atmosphere is the most important part of a game
@@precisism1804of a sprawling, low intensity open world game, I would say 100%. A lot of modern open world games (Ubisoft)just take a single player action games mechanics and stick it into an open world, giving the illusion that open world is always better. But for me open world's are meant to be lived in, explored and felt. Music, art design,, a likeable main character, solid writing, and interesting characters and locations to find are what make an open world for me.
I have this very intense nostalgia when I play rdr1 now. It’s so special to me. I miss those days getting up early in the morning and turning on my Xbox 360. You just had to be there. Wish we could go back to those times. They were something
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Rdr1 depicts cowboys in the west and rdr2 depicts outlaws all around america
Some days I just turned on red dead only to listen to the ambience.
RDR1: Cheesy western music playing all the time
RDR2: actual atmospheric ambient music
It’s not cheesy at all
The cheesy one has adaptive music so I think you're pretty much wrong lol. In fact you heard most of this 3:59 on RDR2.
Also notice in this video how cool the lighting in RDR1 looks. Perhaps less realistic, but that haze somehow it looks more like how you’d imagine that landscape to. The bright white buildings in Mexico look stunning. Fascinating how our mind works like that
RDR 1 is still my favourite game of all time. It has everything really.
Fact !
Rdr1 is still unmatched in its genre, the musics and songs too. I keep being impressed that this game is so great while having only 2 years of development and there was some difficulties during its development...
I think it's my fav game ever too, the story is perfect and so sad, the atmosphere is really great, the gameplay dynamic ( i still play from time to time because the feeling in shootouts is still amazing)
It's the perfect western game and john marston is the greatest character i've seen
Word brother, i remember being so obsessed with RDR2 for 3 years when it finally came out , then went back to RDR1 just to remember old times and didn’t realize how bad RDR2 really is compared to the first one. RDR1 is just better in every way.
I'm still playing it. It gives me more wild west vibes than rdr2.
@@blakbear6528Elaborate, because RDR2 is definitely better in many aspects.
I absolutely love the soundtracks of both games, it’s hard for me to pick a favorite. Both soundtracks suit their respective games perfectly and neither of them ever get old to me
The musics and songs really are some of the things that rdr1 has better than rdr2, this game really is a master piece
RDR 1 is the better game overall if you think about it
@@blakbear6528 yes that's true. Rdr2 has a bigger map ( with no western deserts until the end of the game) , graphisms and there's more details for hunting... But there's not much better things. I like rdr1 story more, the cinematics feel more real, the dialogues and all. John has more depth and is more complexe, the side characters are overall better (charles and others are great though) . Side content are less restricted in rdr1, you can do things like cheating... Gunfights are better (more nervous with details like shooting in legs), even the cover system works better, you can easily still take shots while in cover in rdr2. In rdr1, we really feel the lonelyness john feels, then jack in the end
My com is too long, but just yeah, i really agree. People saying rdr2 improves in everything just don't know what they're saying
@@blakbear6528better ending, better music. Outside of that rdr2 wins honestly. The level of realism and attention to detail in the environments, as well as the brilliance of the story and dialogue... Grew up playing rdr1, but the story is pretty generic if you revisit it, and the environment is dead as hell in comparison to rdr2.
Rdr1 is a spaguetti western, Rdr2 is an existential drama
Im still amazed by RDR1's graphics.
RDR1’s is better, not even a question.
Depends on what
I wish i couldve snagged a copy of RDR1 soundtrack on vinyl when it was available. Definitely better than RDR2's.
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I AGREE WITH U , RDR 1 SOUNDTRACK WAS SO MUCH BETTER !!!! MY FAVORITE IS MACFARLANE RANCH
Seth Mac Farlane Ranch.
México ❤
PERSONALLY I ADORE THE ESCALERA THEME!!!!
Tall Trees in RDR1 always gave me chills. It just didn't feel right there. Looking back that place is definitely Wendigo territory.
It's personal preference. As a big fan of spaghetti westerns, I prefer the RDR1 soundtrack. RDR2 is more ambient and traditional.
After I nearly 100% RDR2 I went back and replayed RDR1. I was expecting to be disappointed but honestly I can confidently say that I like RDR1 way more.
OG comin' through, OG comin' through!
Same here. I also think it’s a better-looking game than RDR2 despite the 7 year age difference.
@@SharksSJ408because they updated visuals
😂😂😂😂
Also better ragdoll physics, better ambiance, better music, gunfights are way more intense, horses are faster and you don’t have to micromanage them with a useless hunger/cleaning mechanic, no annoying gun cleaning mechanics, no 20 minute unrealistic animal skinning animations, RDR1 is just an amazing shooter from simpler times baby❤. On top of all it has one of the best zombie DLCs of all time which gives you extra hours of playtime in the endgame.
Atmosphere was better in this game, just feels more like a cowboy game, or western. Hope it comes out on PC man.
I don't kow what they still waiting for to release on PC.
Easy money for them.
You can play it on yuzu on 60 fps with high graphics if your pc is solid enough nothing to crazy
@@TheMrCHELL Yea big time, i'd be one of the suckers for pay 50 just to play it on PC
@@TheMrCHELL Because of the controls not being suited for PC. Although I think they were just pulling some BS because they were too lazy and now they need some more money to work on GTA 6.
And so it did.
2 is probably closer to how the wild west really was like , whereas 1 is basically wester movies
rdr1's ambience is soo nostalgic bro especially in mexico
I always get the chills every time I pass by the bayou at night. The vibes there are more creepy than most of today’s horror games
Agree deeply, rdr1 has music for every single state and location. Rdr2 plays the same exact music over and over again it gets boring and annoying fast. One of the many things rdr1 did better than 2
It does not. RDR2 has FAR more variations of ambient songs. RDR2 has far less and it get repetitive really fast
@@Indigo_1001 No offense dude but stop riding rdr2 so much. It’s literally an opinion lmao
@@Indigo_1001 also you’ve never played rdr1 and it shows
@@BeatleHarrison
Oh please show me where it “shows” I didn’t play RDR1
You need better perception skills. I played it since 2010 and over the years leading up to 2. Shocker I just greatly prefer RDR2 and thought that it outdid it in every way.
You lack the comprehension that someone that played RDR1 first can still think RDR2 was far better
@@Indigo_1001 again it’s an opinion lmao calm down, mf getting overworked for no reason
The tall trees ambience feels eerie and cold. Knowing that Dutch was there, it kind of fits because we know that a
Dutch turned into an eerie and cold serial killer.
LOL he was already killing people what are you talking about.
😂
"turned"
Heidi McCourt, Angelo Bronte, Guarma granny, and Leviticus Cornwall: ....
Both Amazing.. can't believe they decided to give GOTY to God Of War
God of fucking War😂
In these awards is not just one people that decides.
A selected group votes and then decides.
RDR 2 was robbed
I've tried playing god of war THREE times btw, that game is TRASH. There must have been a bribe behind that decision... psychotic
You guys are STILL salty about this? There are other great games out there, y'know. Red Dead is not the be-all, end-all of video game franchises. RDR's fan base has become honestly quite cult-like over the years and it's kinda pathetic.
Man the level of detail of the horse's body in RDR1 is something no game has yet matched even today! Except of course RDR2
RDR1 is more spaghetti western, and RDR2 is more focused on the american frontier and the grander scale of the american west.
We all know rdr2 is a masterpiece but rdr1 is something special.
I didn't even watch the video and already gave it a thumbs up just for the title. The music in RDR is way better than RDR2. I still listen to the songs 14 years later, that says everything
Thank you for time stamping these. The extra effort is appreciated
Meanwhile you can hear New Austin themes on main menu in RDR2.
And hear Mexico music near border (first time i heard after Jeremy Gill got dragged by big fish, it was one with trumpet).
I was always wondering if this was intentional or did they just forget to remove the files somehow
something i noticed in RDR2 is that the closer you get to the end of the game and for john missions the music changes to sounding more RDR1 style. Its a great little detail.
RDR2 best OSTs are in missions. Unshaken, That's The Way It Is, American Venom, Blood Feuds, and many more...
American Venom is from Rdr1 LMAO
@@thepunisher8649They remade/reprised it, they aren’t the exact same, and RDR2’s version sounds cleaner anyway, “LMAOOO.”
@@Emily19677 Did you even played the Original game?
The whistle😢
Rdr1 music is like classic western movie inspired
Rdr2 music is more like the music of the nature and something which describes the character personality of the protagonist!
I love both of them!❤❤❤
In the end, I was saying that the themes of RDR1 are better, but looking back, I’d say that yes, they remain the most fitting for the dusty environment of RDR1, which literally takes place in a region resembling or referencing Texas, Arizona, or New Mexico. RDR2, on the other hand, is clearly more focused on forested and mountainous environments, like Montana, Colorado, Nebraska, or even Washington State, Georgia, Kentucky, or North Carolina. So, in the end, the themes are indeed well-suited in RDR2, which ultimately means Rockstar didn’t miss the mark as much as I initially thought. I feel both OSTs have their own charm, even though, yes, I clearly have a preference for the first one.
Been saying this since rdr2 came out. Still great but rdr1 is perfect
Rdr 2 will never hit like OG rdr
Wish they took an extra year to cook with rdr2. It's an absolutely fantastic game, but there are a few loose ends that have obviously been rushed, and it's a massive shame
bro saying rdr2 needed more time in the oven is honestly a crime
I think the game has a lot of stuff, yes the New Austin part of the map is lackluster, so is Guarma, but honestly the main game itself is pretty great in my opinion
Agree with both replies. I love this game, it's phenomenal. There are just a few issues that seem to stem from crunch time and stress, which led to easy cheap solutions and half-finished features. It's far from a huge problem though, as I said.
@@Und3rcov3r yes there are some parts that could suffer from that... I don't think the music is part of that thi
@@carloambrosio6726 yeah the music is a minor detail, but gets a little boring when you're in that area while playing red dead online
You know what they could have done was put Rdr 2’s Great Plains soundtrack on the strawberry side of west Elizabeth and put Rdr 1’s Great Plains soundtrack on the Rdr 1 side of west Elizabeth and keep the other soundtracks at the places that aren’t accessible in Rdr 1 and put Rdr 1’s new Austin soundtrack in new Austin so we have both in the game but R* don’t know how to listen to fans they spoil gta online too much you modders are so lucky yall can just add the rdr1 soundtrack into the game
You could also use commas
@@JohnDaubSuperfan369 I went out of breath reading all that
Interesting comparison. Thanks for taking the time to make this. I still haven't played RDR1 for fear of crap mechanics and graphics after loving RDR2, but it doesn't look as bad as I thought.
red dead 1 composers: Bill Elm and Woody Jackson
red dead 2 composer: just Woody jackson
that could explain some things
Makes sense why it's so similar.
Personally, I wouldn’t necessarily say one is better than the other, it’s just different styles.
As others have said RDR2 feels more western sim and RDR1 feels more spaghetti western.
@ I don’t know if I entirely agree with the whole sim thing.
We need a mod that includes rdr1's ambience
This is 110% the case. Just re-played through Undead Nightmare & I can’t get enough of the music. RDR2 is my favorite game of all-time, but RDR’s music was far superior👍
Rdr2 ambient music blends very well with the whole forest wilderness theme
At first it’s good but it gets boring after a while hearing the same notes over and over
@@blakbear6528you could say the same about RDR1?????
@@blakbear6528You could say that about both games, genius. You're just being a contrarian to seem cool, it's so obvious.
@@LEMOnBRaINnPeople dickriding the RDR1 soundtrack so hard but the music in New Austin was the exact same and played over and over, I couldn’t wait to get to Mexico to hear something else.
i always thought this too. rdr1's music is more memorable to me. the tranisitions between idle, combat and going into different environments feel more memorable in rdr1. but rdr2 is generally a better game.
I heard rumors that Gustavo Santaolalla was gonna be scoring rdr2. That ended up not happening and unfortunately it shows.
So rdr2 ambient music isn't as western imo but i still love it ♥️
I love RDR2 but there are some details that the previous game did better. The music for one. The supporting characters are more memorable. And some of the locations from Mexico were really neat
tall trees ambient music in RDR1 always creeped me out as a kid. even now, i always feel like i’m on high alert whenever i enter tall trees. it’s kind of unsettling
It’s isn’t an opinion, this is a fact.
I’ve literally thought the same exact thing since I first played RDR 2 in 2018
100% agree👍
Having a preference is perfectly fine but I wouldn't say either is better than the other, RDR 1 felt like you were in a Western movie, the story, the characters, the world and hell even the graphics, it all fits that theme whereas RDR 2 is a very realistic game and depiction of the West so I think in both cases the ambience suits and fits fine.
11:12 A little reference to the three peasants John kills in Mexico
Without a doubt RDR1 has a more western feel to it, hard to explain. It really fits the mood, because RDR1 always felt more somber and alone than RDR2 overall (which makes sense since John doesn't really have a gang anymore, and family was taken), and the music reflects that mood. RDR2's music is nice, but it felt a bit more upbeat by comparison.
Also, as absolutely beautiful as RDR2's graphics are, the duller colours of RDR1 actually fits that game's mood a fair bit better and feels a bit more like a western somehow.
The music of RDR1 was soo much better it’s not even a comparison. RDR2’s music is just depressing
God i miss being a teen, not caring about the world and just playing RDR1 online on my XBox 360.
Time flies folks.
RDR1 is simply the superior game. I've had several playthroughs separated by years because I missed the world; I had to regularly remind myself I paid $60 for RDR2 to finish it. Beautiful world with little atmosphere and nothing interesting to do other than the main story which needed several more editing passes.
Little atmosphere? That's crazy to me man, the environments were so varied, the lighting and the weather was utterly lifelike. The environments were swelling with so many animals that moved and acted realistically, that I regularly had to stop playing and just watch the screen in absolute awe of how real it seemed.
editing passes WTF? youre drunk go home
You’re joking right? Little atmosphere with nothing interesting to do other than main story?? Did you just not go into shacks and houses and explore them? Hunting, fishing, collecting, camping and crafting, study animals/landmarks, did you not read Arthur’s journal after he made new entries? You’re blinded by nostalgia and it’s okay to admit that. Having played RDR1 AFTER RDR2 (no nostalgia-bias here), the world of RDR2 is superior.. the interactions you can have with the world and NPCs, you can actually interact and care for your horse, you have to feed Arthur, the amount of side missions, random encounters, Easter eggs, challenges, and things to study are insane amounts more than anything you can do in RDR2. R* easily could’ve made it the same as RDR1’s, boring, desolate, and nothing much to do other than story missions. You can prefer one game over the other, but saying RDR1 is the superior game and the second game has no atmosphere or things to do is just wrong.
I 100% agree with you! I love both soundtracks but Rdr 1 hits different. it feels more like the wild west.
RDR1’s music was loosely based on Red Dead Revolver which was literally supposed to be a tribute to western films.
RDR2 was something completely different.
Music in Red dead Revolver is literally Spaguetti western soundtracks. Thet created an incredible ambient.
The Great Plains/Tall Trees ambient music in RDR1 always creeped me out. It gives you the feeling something bad is about to happen even before you find out that something bad IS about to happen.
yeah i always say that rdr1 feels like a true western
100% agree with you brother
Me i like Mexico soundtracks they are awesome
I’ve always thought the same. Thanks for the video!
Idk what anyone says, RDR1 was better than RDR2 in just about every way
It also has unlimited random events unlike RDR2 where they run out after a while a then it just becomes a very static open world
I always found incredible to not see more people saying the same, I truly loved the western background music of the first game and the second fails a bit on that.
RDR1 had fun and atmosphere in mind. RDR2 is a depressing sim.
I’m so glad people are recognizing the brilliance of RDR1. No disrespect to RDR2, but RDR1 atmosphere is so memorable and distinct. The spaghetti western aura is unmatched.
RDR2 goes for more contemporary western which is more subtle in tone.
I wish they'd make a remaster of this.
At least the PC port is coming
SOMEONE FINALLY SAID IT!!!!
the ambient music in RDR2 was something i was really disappointed in, it essentially only plays the exact same song, i especially cant stand that heartlands one, you know the one im talking about
RDR 1 is superior in so many ways
They both have amazing ambiences, It's hard for me to choose between them.
obviously different music tells a difference story as much as the reverse but i get what people mean
Hopefully Rdr 3 will be set right back when the gang first started out. I'm hoping we play one of the calender brother because they sound tough as old boots
Wish they used the RDR2 soundtrack to its fullest. It's so underappreciated, because it isn't showcased much. Probably one of the best soundtracks of all time.
I prefer 1s atmosphere. 2 does something a lot of games and media do when they wanna sound southern / cowboy ; they just add a bunch of banjos to everything and they don't even play them appropriately (I used to be obsessed with old American folk culture back in the day so I've heard a lot of music from back then)...
Sure the style 1 uses isn't accurate either but it's original as opposed to trying to be something that actually exists but executed poorly. Like rdr2 music sounds like it could be in far cry 5 and vice versa. Rdr1 gives of way more atmosphere and supposedly Rockstar got some old timey western composer to do it (I remember they had a trailer about that back when rdr1 came out)
I love both. RDR1 leans more into spaghetti western vibes (which is fun), rdr2 has a larger and more varied map and the soundtrack lets you soak in everything. Less cliche.
Maan the mexico.......i mean...masterpiece
Not only is the music in RDR1 better then 2 but the dialogue in 1 is also better. RDR2 has great dialogue but 1 is more funny and captures the wild west like the classic sayings you'd get in a spaghetti western.