So in regards to the story, Uncle was left to watch over the place after Abigail and Jack were taken by the government and John had to leave. As we can see he didn’t watch over anything since the ranch is a mess and has no one around if you go visit it. That means Uncle slapped some pieces of wood over the windows of the house and decided to fuck off until John got his family back and dealt with their former gang members. Based off what we see from Uncle in RDR2 the idea that he just left to go drink somewhere until the others returned is 100% believable
@@DeadX2it literally says in the game multiple times that uncle didn’t take care of the ranch john yells at him over it have you even played the first game?
Thats what made this game so good, always had that spaghetti western theme which I know people say that alot, but they nailed that feeling with the first one alot better than the second.
@@Sto_nedt rdr 2 music is better in regards to that it nails the the overall world of arthur morgan. idk if that makes sense but the music like fits so perfectly with the depressing themes of the game.
@@acewop3506 I agree with you, everytime I rode around in the epilogue I always heard sad and depressing music that I thought went along with the ending.
@@MathsOP yes you have to go to an area that it’s near tall trees but with wanted level of five dollars and once you get there, they will arrest you and you will get thrown in jail in Blackwater and for some reason right now the game doesn’t even even know what it’s doing. Half of the game is missing textures
I remember playing RDR1 for the first time, and using cheats to get to West Elizabeth. Had a look at Beecher's Hope and wondered what the purpose of it was - I was quite surprised later on when it turned out to be John's house.
Same! I felt it was so random until I found out it was their home; I always thought they lived off the map and John was brought there to look for the targets
It’s weird how they didn’t take Uncle with Abigail and Jack. He was still an active member of the gang before its collapse and even engaged with Cornwall’s men in RD2.
Uncle might not have even been at the ranch when Jack and Abigail were taken. He could’ve just been at a bar, then came home to John having a meltdown.
if you go there at beginning of game and put the phrase from the wall of the barn in the cheat code menu its completes all story missions and makes you jack
Yeah that's why the cheat code exists It's literally called "Jack Attack" It also makes the game 1914, and in the story missions it duplicates with the ones you did
I always wondered that too, like why would John want to live only a few miles from the town where his whole life went to hell or at least started to, like wouldn't he be remembered by some of the folks who were around when that happened? Yes they wore masks im sure but we all know in the Red Dead World masks aren't very effective at concealment. One would think that moving across the country far far away from Blackwater would be preferable. Then again John never was very bright, I mean he was Dumb as rocks and dull as rusted iron as Arthur put it.
I wonder how much time passed since John had to go on the government mission, because his house looks in a pretty bad shape I think John was out for a couple of months, like 2 or 3 months.
I visited the house midway through the game I wondered why it looked like this. I assumed it was a break in and his family was forcibly taken but then later in the story the house is in good shape. My headcanon is this how the house looks like after the passing of John and Abigail. Jack was properly unable to take care if it and fell into ruins.
There’s some good evidence this will be ported to pc soon- while the price might be a bit much, we’ll finally get to mod this masterpiece, and remaster it ourselves.
I played RDR1 for the first time last year, found I could get here before taking care of the gang members, and was so confused and sad to see it like that, especially when it springs back to life by the time you officially return. Presumably this was a placeholder (someone in the comments here suggested it might be supposed to look like this years later when Jack was the only one left) and limitations prevented them from making some kind of Uncle "get back to your mission, John" content and they assumed/hoped most players won't see it like this.
Not at all lmao why would it be a placeholder the house was abandoned for a few months story wise when johns family was taken. Uncle was left to take care of it but hes useless and just boarded it up and left . You can see the house before you take out dutch so it makes sense to not be lively and look deserted...
There was also a glitch back in the day where you can set up a camp near some river, and if you did it correctly and close enough to the water you would spawn across the river giving you access to West Elizabeth. I would do it for the black steed with the max stats and also would farm bear pelts for money. Good times
I was waiting for this to be one of those really long videos where the answer is just "nothing happens" so it was good to see that everything's boarded up and looks difderent.
My guess is Abigail and Jack were taken away during one of John's adventures, basically during free roam after the epilogue. I'd like to assume the story continues from where we left off in RDR2.
Seeing the chest on where Uncle’s room is. That’s really cool in my opinion. But at the same time. I feel like nobody knows where uncle sleeps in rdr2. But MAYBE. They think he sleeps on the porch.
Back long ago I found a way to get into blackwater using the camping hack. Go to the river used in the mission OLD FRIENDS NEW PROBLEMS and then look form the Hennigains strad side go to the right and park your horse looking north east and then set up camp. John will appear on the other side of the river near Pacific Union RR Camp and then you're able to go anywhere. There was also an arrest hack/method but I never did it Same with going to mexico early.
That or jack stays in mexico after killing Ross and gets caught up in the revolution happening in that period and we get some new protagonists and new story. Red dead revolution
@@-qj6ps That would be neat. The newpaper you can purchase as Jack states that Reyes has become something of a dictator in the years since Sanchez was overthrown so it could be based around that, although one would think America would still need to be a playable area. I also think a game revolving around a younger Landon Ricketts would be cool.
Cause you can still go to Beecher’s Hope before killing Dutch and freeing John’s family. So it wouldn’t make sense story wise to have the ranch looking as it usually would if no one is living there
It would be real cool if we can had seen unvle sleeping near the barn drunken daylight, abd then when we interacted there would be some cutscene😹 it would be fun to see how he explains whatsbhe upto
I would love another game taking place before Rdr2 that ends with the Blackwater Massacre or something. But that would make it difficult to let the player free roam after the game. Cause then they head to mountains and Rdr2 begins.
They could have something similar to Far Cry where due to the events of the last mission(s) it gives you a warning beforehand about finishing everything you want to do in terms of side quests as you can't go back.
Are you playing on pc emulating the game and with a free camera tool or is it an legit xbox version with some kind of tool for the free camera? It picked my curiosity
Sorry for the question, but since I didn't play RDR1, but only the prequel, RDR2, I am wondering, if there ain't no cinema mode in RDR1, like there is in RDR2.
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So in regards to the story, Uncle was left to watch over the place after Abigail and Jack were taken by the government and John had to leave. As we can see he didn’t watch over anything since the ranch is a mess and has no one around if you go visit it. That means Uncle slapped some pieces of wood over the windows of the house and decided to fuck off until John got his family back and dealt with their former gang members. Based off what we see from Uncle in RDR2 the idea that he just left to go drink somewhere until the others returned is 100% believable
He does lol ur just not suppose to see this not that deep
What else could a man with deadly lumbago do..?
@@DeadX2 to be fair in terms of story lore he probably went off drinking
@@Lion09887 nah he prob was taking care of the ranch he was loyal to John
@@DeadX2it literally says in the game multiple times that uncle didn’t take care of the ranch john yells at him over it have you even played the first game?
"Beerche's Hope, home, at least it was before I f*cked everything up."
oh shit, here we go again, rolling on del lobos territory
“All ya had to do was follow the damn train! John!”
Man sometimes the ambient soundtrack in this game its very creepy
Thats what made this game so good, always had that spaghetti western theme which I know people say that alot, but they nailed that feeling with the first one alot better than the second.
I memorize the instruments, the rhythm, and tune it ain't scary no more 😔
But undead nightmare on the other hand 👀
I was terrified of West Elizabeth when I played this game as a kid, particularly of Blackwater
@@Sto_nedt rdr 2 music is better in regards to that it nails the the overall world of arthur morgan. idk if that makes sense but the music like fits so perfectly with the depressing themes of the game.
@@acewop3506 I agree with you, everytime I rode around in the epilogue I always heard sad and depressing music that I thought went along with the ending.
No matter
What the weather
We’re together
Na na na no na naaaaaaa
Well, let me have a ruler and a saw and a board And I'll cut it
I'll climb up a ladder with a hammer and nail and I'll nail it
your mom and i are putting you up for adoption
@@zguyofficial6206Climb up the ladder with a hammer and nail, and I’ll nail it.
That's what happens when you leave uncle incharge.
Never trust a man with L U M B A G O!
There is a glitch where if you go to the tall trees area near macfarlane's ranch if you get arrested there you can spawn at the blackwater jail
I’m actually gonna go test that out right now
@@masterofdisaster26 Let us know how it goes
@@masterofdisaster26did it work
@@MathsOP yes you have to go to an area that it’s near tall trees but with wanted level of five dollars and once you get there, they will arrest you and you will get thrown in jail in Blackwater and for some reason right now the game doesn’t even even know what it’s doing. Half of the game is missing textures
@@MathsOP I’m actually streaming it right now
I remember playing RDR1 for the first time, and using cheats to get to West Elizabeth. Had a look at Beecher's Hope and wondered what the purpose of it was - I was quite surprised later on when it turned out to be John's house.
Same! I felt it was so random until I found out it was their home; I always thought they lived off the map and John was brought there to look for the targets
@@Jordan64852 Yeah, I thought the same!
kinda unrelated but using cheats in old 360 games is so nostalgic
Honestly I feel like the reason John can’t swim is purely so he couldn’t go to west Elizabeth but they had to carry that to rdr2
That's the way it is
That and Mexico. Mainly Mexico.
@@ArdeedrALove the reference!
@@ArdeedrA That's just the way it is! 🎸
And because they didnt bother to make swimming animation
Time flies so fast... seems like yesterday when Uncle was sweating his ass off building that house and the barn
It’s weird how they didn’t take Uncle with Abigail and Jack. He was still an active member of the gang before its collapse and even engaged with Cornwall’s men in RD2.
This is Uncle we're talking about here.
They read on his file he had a life threatening disease and assumed he was long dead by this point.
@@JavertRA lumbago isn’t fatal
@@logger22 It is if you ask Uncle.
Uncle might not have even been at the ranch when Jack and Abigail were taken.
He could’ve just been at a bar, then came home to John having a meltdown.
Its so deep watching him at Beecher's Hope after knowing everything it took to get the ranch
This is also what Beecher's Hope looks like in Rdr1 online
Wait what
@@mrstwistedwrench2697 what are you confused about?
@@Ex0tics_VR I’m not confused I’ve never been to that spot so ya know 🤷♂️
No, Beecher's Hope is fully intact but all the doors are locked.
The house isnt boarded up in multiplayer.
if you go there at beginning of game and put the phrase from the wall of the barn in the cheat code menu its completes all story missions and makes you jack
What srsly?
Yeah that's why the cheat code exists
It's literally called "Jack Attack"
It also makes the game 1914, and in the story missions it duplicates with the ones you did
Funktioniert aber nicht. Habe es gerade ausprobiert 😢
4:30 I had flashbacks :(
Damn ☠️
That's not the door John went out of.
@@bambigaming1866 Close enough.
we all have
Interesting that john had a ranch just outside of the town where everything in the gang went to shit.
he got it in 1907 and the massacre was in 1899
@@Abdullah.124 I know. But that whole massacre was the beginning of the end. It all started there, and slowly got worse.
@@Brolly5 ye
I always wondered that too, like why would John want to live only a few miles from the town where his whole life went to hell or at least started to, like wouldn't he be remembered by some of the folks who were around when that happened? Yes they wore masks im sure but we all know in the Red Dead World masks aren't very effective at concealment. One would think that moving across the country far far away from Blackwater would be preferable. Then again John never was very bright, I mean he was Dumb as rocks and dull as rusted iron as Arthur put it.
I wonder how much time passed since John had to go on the government mission, because his house looks in a pretty bad shape
I think John was out for a couple of months, like 2 or 3 months.
It's the untreated precut cost effective lumber that guy sold him, rotten in a few years lol 🤣
Wood materials quality back then was pretty bad than today
But Uncle was taking care of it, that means it only took 3 weeks for it to rotten like that
@@GadeOK_ he got lumbago, aint no work on him
@@pepperkakespisern5531 So it was that way for not manteining it
you can also hear dogs barking sometimes, which scared the shit out of me
The devil has gotten into that beast
I visited the house midway through the game
I wondered why it looked like this. I assumed it was a break in and his family was forcibly taken but then later in the story the house is in good shape.
My headcanon is this how the house looks like after the passing of John and Abigail. Jack was properly unable to take care if it and fell into ruins.
makes sense. they probably used the same model for free roam before Dutch dies
jack marston was supposed to have a rdr2 dlc where he sold the ranch i think (might be false but idk)
@@Correct_Hamsterthat don’t even make sense making dlc about jack selling land come on yo be fr
@zerogamer935 it is real. at least i heard.
There’s some good evidence this will be ported to pc soon- while the price might be a bit much, we’ll finally get to mod this masterpiece, and remaster it ourselves.
Your comment aged beautifully!
Bro is from the FUTURE💀🙏🏾
@@Dyslexify he is NOT from the future lil bro
Well that's what happens when you make a guy with terminal lumbago look after an entire ranch
I played RDR1 for the first time last year, found I could get here before taking care of the gang members, and was so confused and sad to see it like that, especially when it springs back to life by the time you officially return. Presumably this was a placeholder (someone in the comments here suggested it might be supposed to look like this years later when Jack was the only one left) and limitations prevented them from making some kind of Uncle "get back to your mission, John" content and they assumed/hoped most players won't see it like this.
Not at all lmao why would it be a placeholder the house was abandoned for a few months story wise when johns family was taken. Uncle was left to take care of it but hes useless and just boarded it up and left . You can see the house before you take out dutch so it makes sense to not be lively and look deserted...
There was also a glitch back in the day where you can set up a camp near some river, and if you did it correctly and close enough to the water you would spawn across the river giving you access to West Elizabeth. I would do it for the black steed with the max stats and also would farm bear pelts for money. Good times
I was waiting for this to be one of those really long videos where the answer is just "nothing happens" so it was good to see that everything's boarded up and looks difderent.
My guess is Abigail and Jack were taken away during one of John's adventures, basically during free roam after the epilogue. I'd like to assume the story continues from where we left off in RDR2.
Isn’t Uncle meant to be here looking after things? I wanted them to elaborate on that
he was drinking in blackwater
Uncle probably died from the lumbago
@@15braincellsremaininghe dies in a shootout at the end of rdr1
@@Khloya69 nuh uh
It wouldn’t matter lol ur not suppose to be here
beecher's hope looks like an abandoned ranch in the beginning of RDR1
John: "Home sweet home, finally I can....EYO what the FUCK"
Beecher’s Hope looks like a COD zombies location with all the boards.
Could you look at the tomb underneath escalera from undead nightmare?
Dont think undead nightmare is cannon
Seeing the chest on where Uncle’s room is. That’s really cool in my opinion. But at the same time. I feel like nobody knows where uncle sleeps in rdr2. But MAYBE. They think he sleeps on the porch.
For people who don't know where uncle is sleeping in rdr2 he sleeps in the attic there is a ladder near the kitchen
that reminded me of how sad rdr1 is man
Back long ago I found a way to get into blackwater using the camping hack.
Go to the river used in the mission OLD FRIENDS NEW PROBLEMS and then look form the Hennigains strad side go to the right and park your horse looking north east and then set up camp. John will appear on the other side of the river near Pacific Union RR Camp and then you're able to go anywhere. There was also an arrest hack/method but I never did it
Same with going to mexico early.
So...what's the deal with that message on the ceiling in the barn?
It is one of the cheat codes in the game. This allows you to play as Jack at the beginning of the game. You need to enter that phrase in the menu.
TLDW: it looks like it does any time you visit before killing Dutch; it's boarded up and unenterable.
How’d you cross at the train tracks?
Same way he got into the building I guess.
There used to be a glitch where you could dynamite the window in the front and jump through maybe they’re inside
I hope we get rdr3 as a prequel to the golden times of the van der linde gang
That or jack stays in mexico after killing Ross and gets caught up in the revolution happening in that period and we get some new protagonists and new story. Red dead revolution
@@-qj6ps damn that's a good ass story and name
Already done with rdr2. I would like Jack's extended story mode
@@zNoxius i wouldn't consider rdr2 the golden times of the van der linde gang.
@@-qj6ps That would be neat.
The newpaper you can purchase as Jack states that Reyes has become something of a dictator in the years since Sanchez was overthrown so it could be based around that, although one would think America would still need to be a playable area.
I also think a game revolving around a younger Landon Ricketts would be cool.
What is the point of having it boarded up if it is not supposed to be seen that way?
Maybe the full map was open at some point indev
You can still visit it in the west Elizabeth chapter before John is based there
Cause you can still go to Beecher’s Hope before killing Dutch and freeing John’s family. So it wouldn’t make sense story wise to have the ranch looking as it usually would if no one is living there
It would be real cool if we can had seen unvle sleeping near the barn drunken daylight, abd then when we interacted there would be some cutscene😹 it would be fun to see how he explains whatsbhe upto
John remember Sadie and Charles
2010 John: "bro who the fuck are Sadie or Charles lmao"
@@warpdarkmatter 😂😂😂exactly what i tought
Mary sue*
It always stayed like this after you was done with the mexico arc.
I would love another game taking place before Rdr2 that ends with the Blackwater Massacre or something. But that would make it difficult to let the player free roam after the game. Cause then they head to mountains and Rdr2 begins.
Wouldnt be so bad, Fallout New Vegas doesnt let you free roam after the final quest so you get back on the previous save to continue the free roam
They could have something similar to Far Cry where due to the events of the last mission(s) it gives you a warning beforehand about finishing everything you want to do in terms of side quests as you can't go back.
I know I’ve been here before at the start
The video doesn't start until 2:00 minutes.
I wondering what happened to beechers hope when John marston and Abigail and uncle died, did jack live there alone, or, the place turned to abandoned.
It looks like he's lived there all this time. But you can notice the feeling of emptiness after these events.
Uncle needs to find a cure for his lumbago
Short answer is Fuck All.
My question is, _who the hell is 'Beecher'?_
What is a Beecher? What is a wonderwall?
Are you playing on pc emulating the game and with a free camera tool or is it an legit xbox version with some kind of tool for the free camera? It picked my curiosity
piqued friend.
@@deadpatronus😂
+1
Yeah I think there is a Xbox menu
Xenia emulator
They should've added planks in the doors to match the Undead Nightmare one
Also more sense of why we can't enter
Awesome rdr video
I wish you could go to Saint Denis and other places in rdr1
casually ignores the floating hatchet
3:02 floating axe
Sorry for the question, but since I didn't play RDR1, but only the prequel, RDR2, I am wondering, if there ain't no cinema mode in RDR1, like there is in RDR2.
This must be because of that squirrel. Should've known he was up to no good.
Uncle where the hell is our house's interior??
"Finalize Bill"
also check cochinay
Here: ua-cam.com/video/EBB1ByLSGjg/v-deo.html
Can you do Mexico next
I have done: ua-cam.com/video/NkiEmuW5ShA/v-deo.html
@@RDRPlayer. thanks for the link
Uncle was supposed to watch the ranch and he is no where to be found
lol the devs decided to move the train tracks. makes it funny since rdr2 takes place before 1 and the tracks are there.
Routine maintenance on the rails going over those bridges, same with repairs to the bridges that go to Mexico. Pretty easy way to explain it.
Jesus how long has John been gone?
The chicken coop isnt there (unless i missed it)
I bet most newcomers who played frist red dead 2 then red dead 1 did this
Nothing ur welcome
How does your game look so good?
Who put all those boards in all the windows?
Uncle
Rockstar
here before 2k!
In the first gameplay, how the heck john travel with train in w elizabeth to cholla spring armadillo
Can you get rdr1 one pc?
Only with emulators.
@@RDRPlayer. What is that?
You can now. Pricey but it's there on Steam.
@@geehammer1511 Considering it's a really good game and it comes with Undead Nightmare. A really good DLC. I think the Price is totally worth it
@@StingOfAcid Agreed, for the amount of fun we get in return £40 is a good deal.
I LOVE THIS VIDEO EVER IT A THUMB UP ON THIS VIDEO FOREVER FROM RASHEED NATHA ONLYS
Biggest hole in the plot
Rdr2 has a lot of plot holes honstey
my hole is bigger
Nice, you did it wrong.
Nothing
So. Nothing happens. Great, thanks for wasting my time.
Watching it was your choice. Did you want me to put "Nothing happens if you visit Beecher's Hope at the beginning of RDR1"? That's not how it works.
@@RDRPlayer. Not how what works?
Literally a waste of everyone's time.
Not exactly. Most brought opinions and comments about the story and also Beecher's Hope in general, that was the idea.
You wasted yourself time leaving awful opinion that no one asked about.
i just realized how different the route to beachers hope from rdr1 to rdr2 lmfao
Can you show us all kit items in one video