Are We At A Bottom? Is $1.40 - $1.50 Freight Rates The New Norm?

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  • @joeyleroy6877
    @joeyleroy6877 Рік тому +14

    I bought my first Truck in 1994. I leased on to a local company. My Truck was paid 1$ per mile EVERY MILE loaded or empty in 1994. Had tons of work 2500 to 3000 miles every week. Fuel was 1$ per Gallon. Made dam good money I was 27 years old. Most money I had ever made. HOW IN THE WORLD CAN YOU HAUL FOR THESE RATES 30 YEARS LATER ??????

  • @vendingdudes
    @vendingdudes Рік тому +112

    I love these videos because:
    A. It confirms for me that it's still smarter to stay a company driver
    B. It dissuades me from ever switching to become a dispatcher and
    C. reinforces my appreciation and sympathy for the good dispatcher I have

    • @maximecaron1969
      @maximecaron1969 Рік тому +15

      Start as a company driver and save all your money than buy a truck in full and you wont have all the cost related to it. + you could book your own freights directly with the business instead of the DOUBLE broker. If you can find a dedicated route with a truck paid in full. GOLD you are making hundreds of thousands a year. You can't have nothing good in life by accepting defeat before even starting.

    • @Sabir_Ibn_Henry
      @Sabir_Ibn_Henry Рік тому

      That well will eventually run dry. At the rate that things are going, the brokers are the only ones winning right now. When Trump was in office things were much better

    • @JuanMartinez-ly5ke
      @JuanMartinez-ly5ke Рік тому +5

      @@maximecaron1969 I’m currently a company driver I’ve been doing it for 2 years now I have CDL CLASS A, I’m trying to buy a truck to become man owner operator m, how do I get good loads by myself, I live in Virginia! Thanks

    • @maximecaron1969
      @maximecaron1969 Рік тому +8

      @@JuanMartinez-ly5ke Instead of talking to trucking compagnies or brokers, talk directly to businesses and warehouses if they need moving. Call hundreds of them in your area, the majority wont call back or will not have a job for you but you will find someone. It's a win-win because he is directly speaking with the trucker so he is sure to have the best service and you on the other hand are making all the money without the - 10% to 35% from the broker so you can charge a more fair price. Like all businesses you will have to work more hours without pay but after a while it will be all worth it.

    • @Whatta33
      @Whatta33 Рік тому

      Do you bend over to your dispatcher because you definitely sounds like you do

  • @barbariantruckermanny1756
    @barbariantruckermanny1756 Рік тому +25

    I haven't moved my truck in almost 5 months now, sitting t home doing Uber in my personal car is more lucrative right now.

  • @deseanweaver284
    @deseanweaver284 Рік тому +80

    I go through this every day. I try not to quit trucking but I’m not booking no cheap load for no one

    • @zablonskys1
      @zablonskys1 Рік тому +12

      Do short loads ! That’s the way

    • @donguy5740
      @donguy5740 Рік тому

      @@zablonskys1Let’s do business

  • @Coronado-nz7wu
    @Coronado-nz7wu Рік тому +195

    We need to collectively shut these Brokers down one by one and let the shippers know why.

    • @martinkazako2292
      @martinkazako2292 Рік тому +4

      How?

    • @freedomworks3976
      @freedomworks3976 Рік тому +4

      Let’s put other people out of business because we are not smart enough to make a profit , sure sounds smart.

    • @Coronado-nz7wu
      @Coronado-nz7wu Рік тому +21

      @@freedomworks3976 Peddlers of cheap freight that take 40% or more off the top need to shut out of the industry.

    • @notesgo1556
      @notesgo1556 Рік тому

      ​@@freedomworks3976Sounds like a good idea to me.

    • @notesgo1556
      @notesgo1556 Рік тому +1

      ​@@martinkazako2292Right. That's always the question left in the air.

  • @Luke-hs3bf
    @Luke-hs3bf Рік тому +76

    Crazy suspicious how the rates are so low. Yet all the prices for everything are continuing to rise. Makes you scratch your head and wonder where all the money is going. I know the answer can't be good!🤬

    • @facefromda704
      @facefromda704 Рік тому +13

      Brokers are making big bank. They blaming the market smh

    • @DR-um2bv
      @DR-um2bv Рік тому

      A WAR ON TRUCKERS. High Insurance, high diesel prices . Low rates and brokers. A state trooper told me on 9.1.23 it's coming from Washington DC.

    • @Penitbuder
      @Penitbuder Рік тому +4

      Pay no heed to the man behind the curtain

    • @truckingwithnose
      @truckingwithnose Рік тому +12

      Brokers are taking the fuel surcharge and half of the linehaul and double brokering is a mess right now

    • @tomtemple69
      @tomtemple69 Рік тому +3

      the middle man and the rich man are pocketing it

  • @Steve_Milo
    @Steve_Milo Рік тому +113

    Double brokering has increased a lot and really dropped the freight rate.

    • @carlosmontenegro1930
      @carlosmontenegro1930 Рік тому +11

      Yes. And it's not Being enforced.

    • @truckingwithnose
      @truckingwithnose Рік тому

      Thanks to fmcsa for not regulating brokers yet they still have clowns taking these cheap loads but they place all kind of stipulations on us rates won’t go up until these dudes go broke and get out the way other than that we’re screwed

    • @stevekeenan4726
      @stevekeenan4726 Рік тому +6

      I thought double brokering was made illegal a few yrs ago, maybe 10. Its happening again because their isn't any enforcement of the rules ! To much money being paid to sidestep those same laws !

    • @sabias3932
      @sabias3932 Рік тому +4

      double, triple brokering from what I've seen smh.

    • @kloud1174
      @kloud1174 Рік тому

      What's double brokering?

  • @jasonmiller9495
    @jasonmiller9495 Рік тому +59

    Texas just passed aDOT law that allows DOT to check valid license and immigration paperwork. I just found out a lot of ppl are here in America running without a valid CDL

    • @604h22a
      @604h22a Рік тому +14

      sharing licenses aswell, the indian have been doing that

    • @johnw8685
      @johnw8685 Рік тому +17

      They are the main factor in screwing this industry and rates up.

    • @elisananaestradaovertheroa9675
      @elisananaestradaovertheroa9675 Рік тому +6

      And can’t read and speak English

    • @Levord1980
      @Levord1980 Рік тому +2

      That’s been for eons

    • @Karatosa
      @Karatosa Рік тому +15

      Saw 3 Indians coming out of one truck at Loves in TX.😂😂😂

  • @randyjohnson5426
    @randyjohnson5426 Рік тому +45

    Do a video where you counter their low rate with a ridiculous high rate...would love to hear their reactions.

    • @Youbibaby
      @Youbibaby Рік тому +11

      They will probably hang up on you because they know there are more trucks on the road than available freight. They know the fool who will accept that load is only two or three phone calls away.

    • @johndonovan7018
      @johndonovan7018 Рік тому +5

      no you dont do that because you represent your company. he starts the call with who he is and which company. some of them even wanted his MC before they would talk. you cannot troll on the loadboards

    • @ralphdrees4413
      @ralphdrees4413 Рік тому +2

      @@Youbibabyif you’re hauling spot market freight all the load boards show how long that load has been posted. Brokers will say they move that load all day for 1200 bucks and you can literally look and reply “just not for the last 8 all days huh? Look this is the 7/15/30 day average for the lane and this is what I’m going to need to move the load”
      You just have to be able to negotiate. And you still can.
      Also that 1.50 per mile freight is dry van. Learn to pull an open deck or get a reefer. Now it’s 2.50-3.00 basically anywhere, except it’s like 2.20 for open deck in the west.

  • @kokalti
    @kokalti Рік тому +58

    Not only are you doing one of the most difficult jobs out there, but you are also doing it for no pay? DO NOT buy yourself a truck. You will buy yourself a nightmare.

    • @carlosluna6401
      @carlosluna6401 Рік тому

      Sitting all day is not that difficult

    • @Lyudtaru
      @Lyudtaru Рік тому +2

      Will the rates get better soon?

    • @rahmanrucker4408
      @rahmanrucker4408 Рік тому +1

      @@carlosluna6401being away from everything you love is, risking your life on a daily bases is, watching your health deteriorate is. You don’t know what talking about

    • @jahmac1567
      @jahmac1567 Рік тому

      @@rahmanrucker4408stop driving then. As a combat vet I know the real feeling of being far from home in a danger zone.
      Get good mobile internet to stay in contact w your family
      Workout before showers
      Eat wiser (fridge, microwave, air fryer)

  • @scottcpan68
    @scottcpan68 Рік тому +113

    I've been a company driver, paid by the hour for 27 years. I think I'll continue with that until I retire. I've considered buying my own truck many times but it never seemed like a good idea. As a former mechanic I can do most of the maintenance and repairs myself and the numbers still don't add up.

    • @preppertrucker5736
      @preppertrucker5736 Рік тому +5

      My thoughts exactly…. After running my towing business for 10 years I’d definitely prefer staying company myself as well…

    • @Abiberhanu
      @Abiberhanu Рік тому +10

      Company is best right now in my opinion but remember everyone crying now made a boat load of cash not too long ago maybe a ship load they probably should park up work for a company and come back later

    • @kmg501
      @kmg501 Рік тому +6

      I work with one of the largest carriers in the world as a small contractor support person. I can guarantee you that being a company driver is a far better bet in these conditions. The exposures right now are crushing. To be a owner operator now requires you to be super human and have a very low cost to operate vehicle.

    • @silverjohn4319
      @silverjohn4319 Рік тому +7

      WE GOTTA STOP MOVING FOR THESE RATES AI TECH is being used These companies are moving for the lesser amount And everyone is still wants a piece of crumbs 😢

    • @guanacocruz765
      @guanacocruz765 Рік тому +11

      A lot of y’all are one brake down away from going out of business

  • @markferrell2269
    @markferrell2269 Рік тому +16

    Fuel would need to drop by 1.50 per gallon for these loads to even somewhat make sense

  • @TruckerPhill
    @TruckerPhill Рік тому +32

    These rates are ridiculous!!
    This is getting insulting…

    • @viralshark
      @viralshark Рік тому +5

      I haven't even gotten my CDL yet and I'm insulted by all of this!

    • @dariuss.3500
      @dariuss.3500 Рік тому

      ​@viralshark well become a company driver then it doesn't concern. U

  • @guybuddyman838
    @guybuddyman838 Рік тому +29

    I have a new respect for dispatch. They are dealing with some real miserable people. I mean listen too these people they sound so sad. Trucking is all round depressing 😅

  • @Joshualibbyy
    @Joshualibbyy Рік тому +39

    I'm gonna repeat it till I die. Way too many truckers on the road. No one talks about it. We need about 40% to quit to make the rates rise and to feel the need to be compensated more.

    • @2024carlos
      @2024carlos Рік тому +9

      Also big companies have to many truck

    • @lvbadboy
      @lvbadboy Рік тому +6

      15,000 companies and drivers have closed since October you are right more need to leave or close for capacity to tighten up and rates to go up and these scandalous brokers/shippers to pay

    • @JuanTorres-yi1hr
      @JuanTorres-yi1hr Рік тому

      Since ur selfish! Why don't u quit, so that others can benefit financially!.

    • @ffx95
      @ffx95 Рік тому +25

      The problem is the ones that will leave are the ones that refuse to run poverty wages, and usually the safer drivers. While the bottom of the barrel drivers that steal fuel, run raggity trucks and drive like maniacs are the ones to be left after the storm.

    • @lvbadboy
      @lvbadboy Рік тому +3

      @@ffx95 You definitely have a point there! The reason is a lot of them are sending money back home where the US dollar foes 3 to 5x as far I know many drivers who use this as a backup escape plan if the economy goes belly up

  • @youngsavagefury7138
    @youngsavagefury7138 Рік тому +14

    You are the best. Your videos have taught me some much. You are a true teacher and every trucker need to learn from you. You are a blessing on UA-cam

  • @mikescaffo4850
    @mikescaffo4850 Рік тому +29

    This is crazy this industry runs the country and in general should be treated way better all the way around including money

    • @kathrynw3
      @kathrynw3 Рік тому +3

      The country hasn't felt the real pain of a trucking industry collapse yet, there is too much surplus freight sitting in warehouses right now, but when they do it will be we need more truckers.

    • @michiganstad
      @michiganstad Рік тому +1

      which means regulation regulation regulation ...

  • @rcrocker02
    @rcrocker02 Рік тому +19

    This is a really simple issue for us as drivers to solve. Refuse to haul cheap freight. No matter how desperate you are for a paycheck, the problem just gets worse when we give in. If we hold out for better rates i promise when the country grinds to a halt, we will see better rates again. And we need to stop this brokerage scams with them skimming off the top first then pretending to take their cut from what's left

    • @easternrebel1061
      @easternrebel1061 Рік тому

      I agree, but the issue is convincing people to do that or walk away from the industry. In my humble opinion, until the government gets it's head out of it's ass and start cracking down hard on shippers looking for low rates , brokers screwing over drivers, maybe outright outlawing third party brokers and giving power back to the drivers or the companies to charge more reasonable rates, enacting laws to maintain pay rates for truckers , auditing some of these brokers, and most definitely raising the standards for operating a truck abd getting a CDL; basically make sure that the driver is well trained, and if a company cheapskate out or as is the case with many migrants, outright fraud, then the punishment should be so severe it would ALMOST make you pity the bastards. Bottom line , other than either walking away or collectively raising hell , I don't see a way we as drivers can really do anything about it.

    • @DevonFreeman-nl5wd
      @DevonFreeman-nl5wd Рік тому

      I agree 100%

    • @hatchett999ify
      @hatchett999ify Рік тому

      Too many foreigners who don’t care about the cheap rates. This issue will never go away until they go away

    • @jamesnevitt3400
      @jamesnevitt3400 Рік тому

      ​@@hatchett999ifyYelp alot of American truckers that are homeless living in their trucks. They drive a truck just for a place to lay their head at night

  • @truckandtravel740
    @truckandtravel740 Рік тому +67

    No one can survive those rates

    • @LG-wp6ge
      @LG-wp6ge Рік тому +3

      Yup you’re right, but yet people are still taking them anyways thus ruining the market for the rest of us

    • @freedomworks3976
      @freedomworks3976 Рік тому +1

      Yes people survive these rates every day they are called business people. How has Ronen been surviving ?

    • @bj2200
      @bj2200 Рік тому

      @@freedomworks3976u need 2$ a mile to see a profit paying insurance gas a driver etc.

    • @robnduhcut
      @robnduhcut Рік тому

      I don’t understand why people call them loads it makes me not want to go otr. I’m only 19 but I know trucking is my sh* and those are to cheap

  • @johnbenning2279
    @johnbenning2279 Рік тому +10

    Definitely do more of these videos. To everyone else out there, know your cost per mile!!! Say No to Cheap Freight!!! Every operations cost per mile is different. Cheap freight=Freight below your cost.

    • @clemsmith8799
      @clemsmith8799 Рік тому

      Sure i can pull your load!!! After I deliver it i will tell you how much you owe me, We take cash or Card............. It is no different than when you take a Taxi Cab, the driver drops you off then tells you how much you owe, then you PAY HIM.

  • @donmcatee45
    @donmcatee45 Рік тому +15

    The writing is on the wall, the big carriers want just as much as other stake holders to eliminate Otr drivers to cut costs… and to put the small guys into the ground. This problem is way deeper than brokers, foreign drivers, etc. the green peeps, epa, and big money are behind it. How do we go green? EV trucks, how do we ship freight cheaper? Go driverless. Then we pay drivers on loading end and delivery to work local for under 20.00 an hour…

  • @vslurk
    @vslurk Рік тому +42

    We need legislation to regulate brokers.

    • @yungpac1155
      @yungpac1155 Рік тому +2

      Broker transparency is the first thing but waiting on the government to do it for us is ridiculous.

    • @NewmanAttack
      @NewmanAttack Рік тому +3

      ​@yungpac1155 the brokers aren't going to willingly participate, because they would be out of business when we are finally able to prove it.

    • @EcoFustionTV
      @EcoFustionTV Рік тому +1

      @@yungpac1155 You MUST have govt regulation, you think brokers are gonna just admit they're not ripping off truckers out of the kindness of their heart?

    • @unrequitednuance
      @unrequitednuance Рік тому +1

      No.

  • @trayshields214
    @trayshields214 Рік тому +19

    On that last load, i would've factored in tolls as well. I factor EVERYTHING I CAN

  • @treyfeeley2519
    @treyfeeley2519 Рік тому +6

    WOW! Scary! Thanks so much for the video! It showed me a different side of the business!!!!

  • @bmaue3
    @bmaue3 Рік тому +17

    I have 3 more weeks OTR and I’m turning this truck in. It’s not worth it (for me) to be away from the family for a measly few dollars. Took a local hauling tomatoes from the fields to the packing house for $300/day. Good luck out here ladies and gentlemen.

  • @phatmike8401
    @phatmike8401 Рік тому +8

    Brother and sister truckers. Stick together!!! Don’t get tired in doing what is right. In due time. U will reap a harvest. Trucking is an honorable and essentially professional. We will prevail!! Phat Mike

  • @adrianvazquez6142
    @adrianvazquez6142 Рік тому +17

    I like these negotiations videos, please do more 😂😂😂😂😂😂

  • @anacharsiss6003
    @anacharsiss6003 Рік тому +2

    Guys I trucked for 1 year. Most of it on my own authority. Quit at 22 years old, and went back to college. The most bullshit job ever imo. I travelled across the whole country but the amount of bs in OTR trucking is ridiculous. It was a nightmare and combined with personal problems I had the hardest time in my life, thank God I got out and am back in college.

    • @Comm0ut
      @Comm0ut Рік тому

      Wise move. If you want early retirement after you get the degree (or want Uncle Sugar to pay you while getting one) the Air Force is hard to beat, very much including Guard and Reserve. Most people don't run the benefit and retirement math but the total package value is Very Nice. Score the degree, commission as an officer and the world is your oyster. I haven't felt a recession since 1981 and retired at 47 (I enlisted late). It's also a foot in the door for state and Federal jobs which have their own retirement packages and medical plans. If I'd stayed a civilian I'd be medically bankrupt by now instead of debt-free and retired young.

  • @DeBergeracs-s1n
    @DeBergeracs-s1n Рік тому +11

    Truly appreciate videos like this. Showing us how to negotiate this market is truly a blessing. Thank you Ronen

  • @DarknessessB11
    @DarknessessB11 Рік тому +9

    Trucking is in the gutter, and it's been like this for a while. Unfortunately, it looks to be hard stuck there and the future looks bleak.

  • @frederickknapp5340
    @frederickknapp5340 Рік тому +36

    Not too many truckers on the road just shipper and receivers take to much time to unload/load. That's why I love flatbed. Last 6 months I have averaged 45 minutes load/unload and usually do around 3.00 to 4.50 per mile.

    • @detreyusbetts2596
      @detreyusbetts2596 Рік тому +4

      I am seriously considering switching to flatbed.

    • @frederickknapp5340
      @frederickknapp5340 Рік тому

      flatbed is my life I refuse to go back to van@@detreyusbetts2596

    • @bilalraza319
      @bilalraza319 Рік тому +1

      ​@@detreyusbetts2596what are you working with right now?

    • @justinhopkins7703
      @justinhopkins7703 Рік тому +2

      I run a team operation how do you think a team would do running a flat/step?

    • @bilalraza319
      @bilalraza319 Рік тому

      ​@@justinhopkins7703 Teams work well for Van/Reefers. However, having a team on a flatbed/stepdeck doesn't guarantee increased earnings because flatbeds/stepdecks don't haul commodities that require expedited deliveries.

  • @Youbibaby
    @Youbibaby Рік тому +2

    I dont know if you guys heard about it yet but OOIDA is not having its Trucking to Success seminar this year because what's left of the membership either cant afford to go or is not interested because they know no matter what they cover in the seminar it still wont help profits because of low freight rates and high fuel prices.

  • @stevejoramo8013
    @stevejoramo8013 Рік тому +5

    As a carrier of your size you should be dealing directly with shippers, they tender you the load, you accept it and haul the load. No middlemen or brokers. The only time to run a cheap load is to reposition the truck to a better area. Hopefully a short load.

    • @clemsmith8799
      @clemsmith8799 Рік тому

      Sure i can pull your load!!! After I deliver it i will tell you how much you owe me, We take cash or Card............. It is no different than when you take a Taxi Cab, the driver drops you off then tells you how much you owe, then you PAY HIM.

  • @jbar4933
    @jbar4933 Рік тому +17

    Freight in general is going to suffer until inflation gets under control. The US economy is 70% consumer spending. Until consumers have money to spend freight will be low...

    • @preppertrucker5736
      @preppertrucker5736 Рік тому

      It’s not inflation….. It’s a weakening of the dollar as a whole…. It’s not backed by anything and hasn’t been since the 1960s……

    • @anthonyburnett1002
      @anthonyburnett1002 Рік тому +2

      The 1970s was all about inflation and trucks got more per mile than today, without adjusting for Inflation.

    • @micclay
      @micclay Рік тому +4

      That's not the problem. The problem is truckers are willing to haul at break even or at a loss. Why would a customer pay more if they don't have to?

    • @blackthought7250
      @blackthought7250 Рік тому

      Broker is taken the money.

  • @deeb1504
    @deeb1504 Рік тому +36

    I would like to see more negotiating with brokers and shippers.👍👍

    • @ernestcotton9324
      @ernestcotton9324 Рік тому +3

      The brokers are the problem, they are double brokering and taking half of the load cost again

    • @chrisbelsito4231
      @chrisbelsito4231 Рік тому

      Just listen to their attitude!!! They don’t give a 💩 if you want the load because some idiot will take it

    • @clemsmith8799
      @clemsmith8799 Рік тому

      Sure i can pull your load!!! After I deliver it i will tell you how much you owe me, We take cash or Card............. It is no different than when you take a Taxi Cab, the driver drops you off then tells you how much you owe, then you PAY HIM.

  • @garymckee9538
    @garymckee9538 Рік тому +23

    Well done Ronen . You know your costs and are a professional at negotiating .... unfortunately too many carrier s dont know their costs and can, t do basic Math.... too many cheap carriers still destroying the freight market
    Gosh these brokers know they have the upper hand and easily get a cheap carrier. Their attitude on the phone right away shows arent going to be willing to negotiate ......the broker on ur last call for the Ga to Ct was the only one sounding professional and like someone you could negotiate and do business with
    The sooner these Cheap Carriers all go out of business and their vechiles are on the auction yard the better for us all.. they havent a clue what they are doing and destroying the market for all of us who, ve spent a lifetimes work building a successful business
    Most of them bought trucks and started post 2020
    They need to dissappear and go back to where or what they came from ...

    • @Yycprince
      @Yycprince Рік тому +2

      Haha you said it all

    • @ronjordan2831
      @ronjordan2831 Рік тому

      This is a result of open borders.

    • @Msstrucker74
      @Msstrucker74 Рік тому +1

      Exactly what I was thinking!!!

    • @TomTruckery
      @TomTruckery Рік тому +2

      That's not going to happen. When the mega carriers get tired of operating at a loss, they simply won't move their trucks, and they'll drive the rates back up just the same way they drove them down. The lil guy is never going to outlive the megas. The ones with the most trucks on the road are the ones controlling rates.

  • @truckertim4280
    @truckertim4280 Рік тому +8

    Good stuff. This shit is crazy. I been seeing under a Buck a mile.

  • @truckerdamnyankee
    @truckerdamnyankee Рік тому +2

    I was a Broker for the 8 months at a large Brokerage. All I can say is wow. The market/Shippers control alot of the pricing. I'm back in a Truck now. Brokerages are laying off people left and right. It's gotta get better.

  • @ssonny7078
    @ssonny7078 Рік тому +5

    You can tell most of these brokers he is calling probably deal mostly with foreign dispatchers who probably just call and book the load without asking a thing. They almost seem stand-off ish and or rude. And they seem like they get thrown off by his basic negotiations. So glad I went oversize and only deal with people like this every so often. (11:30) he sounds like a professional broker.

  • @rogerwilliams1801
    @rogerwilliams1801 Рік тому

    Luv to see real time videos booking freight and negotiating tactics, keep posting if possible and we'll keep watching. Thxs.

  • @MrHunnitHustles
    @MrHunnitHustles Рік тому +5

    Sometimes you have to look at the route terrain and the weight. Sometimes you can make more on a light load on flat terrain with a lower rate than a heavy load through the mountains paying a better rate.

    • @coronado7998
      @coronado7998 Рік тому +1

      The difference in fuel cost of a heavy load compared to a light load is about .10mile so on 500 miles that's $50bucks. I don't discriminate on weight . My cost is set based on rate per mile. Most carriers get a rate based Wgt ,Haz Mat , lane etc but they aren't passing that on to lease. 1 carrier paid me $80hr detention $ 100 stop. Next carrier paid $20hr $30 stop . The small carrier paid better than the large carrier . The shipper was the same. Why is that

    • @MrHunnitHustles
      @MrHunnitHustles Рік тому

      @coronado7998 maybe that's what you've read online but in the real world and based off 12 O/O experience, that's not true.

  • @GabrielTalavera-q1n
    @GabrielTalavera-q1n 11 місяців тому

    I believe this is the biggest lesson to be learned is how low the loads are paying the drivers . Keep doing what you are doing and showing brutal honesty about how bad it is out there. God bless!!!!

  • @ivanaslan24
    @ivanaslan24 Рік тому +9

    Guy did his job and found a good load, 💪

    • @JimmyD6977
      @JimmyD6977 Рік тому +1

      That’s terrible. Tolls in and out plus other operating costs? Loads out of north east?

    • @spoolinsvt6489
      @spoolinsvt6489 Рік тому +2

      @@JimmyD6977 That was my thought too, Sounds better on paper till you factor in the tolls needed to get there. Boom back down to 1.50 a mile

    • @spoolinsvt6489
      @spoolinsvt6489 Рік тому +2

      @@itsme2572 I think he is just acting like the average got in the game while it was hot kinda of trucker and what they’re doing now.
      He has to have some dedicated runs to be keeping their business up.
      No one staying in business at $1.50 a mile. I don’t care if your truck gets 10mpg

  • @vtruckthomas6343
    @vtruckthomas6343 Рік тому +23

    The fact that it's 1200 to 1300 to drive 44.000.00 of goods for hundreds of miles is insane when if your truck gets towed 20 miles you're paying around 800.00 . Get the brokers out of the industry and rates will return to normal.

    • @vtruckthomas6343
      @vtruckthomas6343 Рік тому

      @Walkingnluv First off I've been driving for 30 years you simp. And you talk like beginner with one year experience

    • @vtruckthomas6343
      @vtruckthomas6343 Рік тому

      @@Walkingnluv stay off the internet like you know it all. Because you don't.

    • @adrielr5930
      @adrielr5930 Рік тому

      @@vtruckthomas6343 Buddy, just for them to hook up the truck is $800. Lol, $800.

    • @adrielr5930
      @adrielr5930 Рік тому +1

      @@Walkingnluv, He absolutely doesn't know what he's talking about. Just for them to hook the truck and tow it 8 miles was like 2k. I think he meant his minivan or something.

    • @mypersonalopinion5363
      @mypersonalopinion5363 Рік тому +3

      ​@@Walkingnluvyou are both right. Just depends on what part of the country you are in. Still expensive and over charged ethier way

  • @frederickknapp5340
    @frederickknapp5340 Рік тому +5

    deadhead is the killer, most days I run less than 100 miles deadhead, but have had loads that 250 miles is there.

  • @markludendorf2777
    @markludendorf2777 Рік тому +7

    Carriers will adapt,by using drivers and scamming them with lease offers which is just sad

  • @LeenDerisma
    @LeenDerisma Рік тому +5

    Ronen, thank you so much for those greats video you keep on posting for us. This is absolutely horrendous rates at its finest. How in the world do they think drivers are going to survive off of those low paying rates. My saving grace is that I bought my tractor and trailer cash. And I hired my brother as a driver. Kid you not for the month of August, I grossed $32,026. I paid $10,880.75 in fuel. And paid my driver too. If it wasn't because of no truck or trailer payments, I do believe I would've went under Big Time.

    • @upinsmokegg
      @upinsmokegg Рік тому

      Didn't pay insurance? Or maintenance?

  • @dennismaloney7241
    @dennismaloney7241 Рік тому +1

    In the 70s, truckers left unionism behind to become independents, competition can be brutal when you haven't any protections: fare-thee-well?

  • @ericcolon2759
    @ericcolon2759 Рік тому +19

    The sad thing is that drivers take those loads.

    • @attiumeyami417
      @attiumeyami417 Рік тому +1

      exactly its like why do u do that if you don't make any money. like I understand u got bills to pay but how long can u possibly run on a loss b4 you go kaboom. its like whether u like it or not your part of the problem.
      *but its your livelyhood, and how you make your living you say?
      well thats what happens when you put all your eggs in one basket. should have created other sources of income during the good times incase this one failed. and yes there were plenty of good times.

    • @tmack7563
      @tmack7563 Рік тому

      Especially here in South Texas and the border is just busting open with many more coming to fk up this industry. I've seen it go down steadily in my 26 almost 27 years

  • @Trsporty
    @Trsporty Рік тому +2

    Hi Ronen, i appreciate your videos a lot, especially like this one showing you working. I am writing from Europe where I ve been opertating on the same field for 17 years. The way of acquiring orders is pretty similar over here. Unfortunetely many hauliers do loads extremely cheap and for years they have been still existing on the market. How? nobody does know, but they can not be fair….
    Please keep going with your videos. Thx

  • @francomtz7115
    @francomtz7115 Рік тому +3

    The problem in trucking even being
    hard job it's easy for anyone to get into even as an owner operator, so anyone can compete and the truth is that there are too many operators most unsafe.

  • @TyroneJackson-dl6wm
    @TyroneJackson-dl6wm Рік тому +1

    The reason my Class A in my back pocket,I'm driving a trash truck home every night 1200 a week takes home off on the weekend

  • @letd1995
    @letd1995 Рік тому +4

    I would love to see a comparison if you DH 200 miles outside ATL. ATL might be over saturated with too many trucks maybe brokers knew that.

  • @amels4620
    @amels4620 Рік тому +1

    Rates are so bad yet most O/O continue to accept them. Then the shipper/ broker wants you to darn near Fed Ex hump to a wild delivery time. I pulled my truck in September and am just waiting it out! Thank the most high I was saving for these times.

  • @rdavian
    @rdavian Рік тому +34

    I might have to change careers. This is ridiculous

    • @HabituaILineStepper
      @HabituaILineStepper Рік тому +7

      Shit sucks man. I just got my CDL a few months ago too. Kind of jealous of how great truckers had it a few years back. Wouldn’t even consider them having it great; the way they had it it’s how this industry should be! We just have SHITTY now.

    • @spoolinsvt6489
      @spoolinsvt6489 Рік тому +3

      @@HabituaILineStepper This industry is a wave, its bad then good bad then good and so on. Couple years ago you could not even try and make over 10k a week. A couple years before that everyone was struggling. It flips every 4-5 years.

    • @HabituaILineStepper
      @HabituaILineStepper Рік тому

      @@spoolinsvt6489 well, I feel it may take a bit longer for things to get better in this cycle due to how weak our economy really is. It’s been a good 3 years already though, so I hope you’re right. 2025 should be better than ‘24

    • @spoolinsvt6489
      @spoolinsvt6489 Рік тому +1

      @@HabituaILineStepper For sure, it goes hand in hand with the economy. Watch the stock market. If it’s doing good then then generally speaking so is trucking.
      It will get better when the war on fossil fuel is over. All this inflation is making people not have extra spending money like they did.

    • @chriscunanan
      @chriscunanan Рік тому

      @@spoolinsvt6489 Do you see any indications in the cultural/political spectrum that the war on fossil fuel will ever be "over"?

  • @Takemehome99
    @Takemehome99 Рік тому +2

    You need to know the cost of running your truck. My truck costs me $1.65 a mile. However yours might cost more or less their are a lot of factors that go into running a truck. Some factors include but not limited too, MPG, insurance, driver pay, permits/sos fees, repairs, maintenance, etc. Know your rate per mile. Or you’ll go bankrupt.

  • @richardcontreras5424
    @richardcontreras5424 Рік тому +11

    I appreciate you showing us the way of negotiation with these brokers it is truly helpful and very thoughtful on your end.
    I appreciate you taking the time to help who wants to learn on how business in the trucking life works
    Keep them coming. Hopefully we learn how to increase these rates as well.

    • @vangiesutton2163
      @vangiesutton2163 Рік тому

      Te best way is to get drivers to stop accepting these low rates. Everything stops when trucks don’t move….hard to do but it’s the best solution.🥸

  • @PeterbiltChris
    @PeterbiltChris Рік тому +2

    From my experience when you asked what they covered it for they are gonna lie to keep the lane rate down. If they tell you a higher rate then everyone will ask for that or more

  • @israelawake2881
    @israelawake2881 Рік тому +3

    Yes ,please continue doing theses kinds of Video's

  • @Johnny-xn2ou
    @Johnny-xn2ou Рік тому

    Wow Ron you have no idea how change my mind after i watch this video.
    I was ready to buy a truck
    Ill stay company driver till the end of the year

  • @e.l.9589
    @e.l.9589 Рік тому +12

    Things will get a lot worse, we're just getting started. How do you calculate mile to weight ratio?

    • @e.l.9589
      @e.l.9589 Рік тому

      @@davidhenry6422 Thank You for that, I'm just local Hazmat but dreaming of the open road.

  • @RedskinzFan
    @RedskinzFan Рік тому +1

    Good job man, way to stand on your numbers. I don’t let these brokers tell ME what my trucks run for. I don’t know how y’all run dry vans for those numbers, we run step decks and cannot run for under $3 at a minimum. But we can partial to get our numbers

  • @Levord1980
    @Levord1980 Рік тому +4

    Mind you this is probably the Labor Day weekend. Nothing good going out around this time. Most drivers accepting these rates will eat themselves alive.

    • @younglove3362
      @younglove3362 Рік тому +2

      They deserve it for accepting them.

    • @cyclopsvision6370
      @cyclopsvision6370 Рік тому

      Owner operators deserve it for charging $5 a mile in 2020

  • @theintelligencedivision
    @theintelligencedivision Рік тому +2

    Thank you for this review, these rates are utterly ridiculous ..

  • @mjrockx100
    @mjrockx100 Рік тому +3

    I was leasing a truck from a company in Brooklyn, they were booking $2/mile loads and I was still struggling to the point where I had to return the truck 6 months later…They didn’t even have a payroll system so that they don’t have to pay tax at the end of the year! Resetting my clock illegally!

  • @WestCoastTruckingCEO
    @WestCoastTruckingCEO Рік тому +1

    These comments never cease to amaze me... There are many of us who are experienced and are always thinking far ahead about how we can position ourselves the best in the near future. Well when it was open checkbook in 2021 many of you dingdongs completely ghosted any regulars you might have had small or big and grabbed every single load off the board for that temporary pleasure whereas we still kept in contact with our regulars and still gave them as much capacity as we could where we weren't burning a bridge and here we are still getting freight from those regulars and you're slaves to the $1.25 load board. This is what a business is about, making those important decisions

    • @Youbibaby
      @Youbibaby Рік тому

      Beware, my fellow trucker. Karma is a vengeful bitch.

  • @Hamdalorian
    @Hamdalorian Рік тому +4

    Man, those rates are just tragic. And it's usually decent money into Michigan. Good luck getting drivers to turn the key for those numbers, those are charity loads.

  • @DjFEEKA
    @DjFEEKA Рік тому

    More booking loads please for educational purposes I like the way you handle the business.... stand firm on your business

  • @josephmattos945
    @josephmattos945 Рік тому +3

    Thank the big trucking companies for this!

    • @coronado7998
      @coronado7998 Рік тому

      Yep. Company I use to work for has dry vans loaded in drop lots all over their freights lanes. Some been sitting for weeks . Their contract shippers use their carriers to store loads . Tax free from inventory

  • @steevelaplante9432
    @steevelaplante9432 Рік тому +1

    First thing first... How come you are looking for tomorrow load. You got a load cancelled at the last minutes... In that instance, you will only find the bottom one and most rejected loads on the load board...If it is the case, take the load that get you the closest from your next load ( only need the pay for the fuel and driver, the most expenses)... If you have one book

  • @Overtime-Trucking
    @Overtime-Trucking Рік тому +4

    Good video, wow that is sad how low it is. Best thing to do is be assertive, give quotes of what you are willing to do and wait for them to call back. Brokers start raising the price when nobody take cheap freight

    • @juandoe5651
      @juandoe5651 Рік тому +1

      Its never gonna happen because we got a lot of people out here living in debt most people got houses to pay off and expensive cars to pay off expensive truck to pay off a rented trailer. they're out here taking what they can get to pay off their debt

    • @Overtime-Trucking
      @Overtime-Trucking Рік тому +1

      @@juandoe5651 dude I dispatch 10 trucks. Even with the market being low we still get loads for $2.50-$3 per mile. Brokers panic when they can’t book loads and start paying up

    • @russkiy00
      @russkiy00 Рік тому

      ​@@Overtime-Truckingdang that's good to hear. I'm starting dispatch tomorrow

  • @JuggernautTrucking
    @JuggernautTrucking Рік тому +1

    Everyone has a say but no one comes up collectively with the solution. Think about that💯

    • @Comm0ut
      @Comm0ut Рік тому

      That's because there is no collective solution. The game has been rigged for a very long time.

  • @preppertrucker5736
    @preppertrucker5736 Рік тому +23

    As a company driver I can say that otr is just dead out here right now…. In 3 years I’ve been out here I’ve never seen it this bad….. Glad I didn’t become a lease operator 💀💀💀

    • @mike-sk2li
      @mike-sk2li Рік тому +1

      I'm doing awesome. Speak for yourself

    • @bubbablue1100
      @bubbablue1100 Рік тому +1

      3 years experience? 👌 👏

    • @diplomat249
      @diplomat249 Рік тому

      ​@mike-sk2li Congrats there driver..I'm actually doing pretty dam good myself. I guess it all depends on who you run for

    • @preppertrucker5736
      @preppertrucker5736 Рік тому

      @@bubbablue1100 Ran my own light duty towing business for almost 10 years and another 10+ in manufacturing…. I’m glad I have experience in other fields myself….

    • @odestryjam2231
      @odestryjam2231 Рік тому

      Everyone is not doing bad. Trucking is a wide sector. Its more to Trucking than just dry van.

  • @arthursmith9264
    @arthursmith9264 Рік тому +2

    The old sayin was bottoms up sad part this is quiet reccesion & really shows how bad even B4 Covid 19 how things were as the 2019 Trucking Industry closed more companies than ever & now actually they need to get rid of these cheat brokers first & Happy Trails

  • @ericcolon2759
    @ericcolon2759 Рік тому +3

    It’s the drivers fault.

  • @franklotion7716
    @franklotion7716 Рік тому +1

    The race to the bottom continues. But im sure we will blame each other for this environment.

  • @SarcasticLittlePrick
    @SarcasticLittlePrick Рік тому +3

    Gotta do some Side jobs in parallel.
    Be discreet !!

  • @Sir_Austin_T_Gee
    @Sir_Austin_T_Gee Рік тому +1

    We need to do something about all these people getting into trucking who don’t care about it that take loads at these rates.

  • @konstantinakhmetzhanov7966
    @konstantinakhmetzhanov7966 Рік тому +8

    спасибо за то что показываете весь процесс.

  • @csonrxdi
    @csonrxdi Рік тому +1

    Lots of work out there for dump trucks. $150/hr for dot jobs.

  • @heartlessangel1460
    @heartlessangel1460 Рік тому +6

    Man. I almost feel bad harrassing my dispatcher on next load.😂

  • @jaydenp4975
    @jaydenp4975 Рік тому +1

    Please do more of these videos. Thank you so much

  • @acuseme
    @acuseme Рік тому +14

    There's nothing wrong with the freight market, there's a bigger issue and it is the largest wealth inequality in history. Homelessness is skyrocketing, all assets are owned by the wealthy and normal people cannot afford to live under the current system.

    • @jaysanti3308
      @jaysanti3308 Рік тому +2

      There's a lot wrong with the freight market. Just open your eyes ! 👀

    • @banjobenson9348
      @banjobenson9348 Рік тому

      You have been brainwashed there are jobs for people who have a brain good paying ones too.

  • @lovielee
    @lovielee Рік тому +2

    Would you like an Excel spreadsheet that you can just type in the load rate/miles and the spreadsheet automatically calculate the rate per mile for you?

  • @tametz
    @tametz Рік тому +22

    Here is the million dollar question: What keeps the sleezeball brokers from lying about the rates?
    Asking seems to be a mistake because they can tell you a low rate whether or not they actually got it at that.

    • @nicholascheruiyot8347
      @nicholascheruiyot8347 Рік тому

      They are true if you look at the average rates.

    • @upinsmokegg
      @upinsmokegg Рік тому +3

      They stick together like glue. It's simple. You want to know the shipper rate, they won't give you the load. Period. None of them

    • @clemsmith8799
      @clemsmith8799 Рік тому

      Sure i can pull your load!!! After I deliver it i will tell you how much you owe me, We take cash or Card............. It is no different than when you take a Taxi Cab, the driver drops you off then tells you how much you owe, then you PAY HIM.

  • @borealis7457
    @borealis7457 Рік тому +1

    most useful trucking vlog on youtube

  • @Mason-arc
    @Mason-arc Рік тому +62

    Got to wait until more companies go out of business

    • @robertruschak7083
      @robertruschak7083 Рік тому +11

      It is going to get much much worse
      Joe Blow Trucker does not have a competitive edge against the mega carriers , land Star , brokers , etc.
      Shippers can lower the amount they will pay
      Gas prices going up
      Good luck 🍀

    • @ai.driver
      @ai.driver Рік тому +7

      And as soon as rates go back up thousands will run back in

    • @mike-sk2li
      @mike-sk2li Рік тому +7

      I'm in a lease purchase. $1.20 a mile all miles. I still net 2, 3 K a week.. That's truck payment, insurance, fuel, telamatics, workers comp. Honestly don't see why ya'll big time owner operators with paid equipment are struggling!? Then I really don't care. 2k a week net is 104k a year after taxes. Life is good

    • @austinlloyd9757
      @austinlloyd9757 Рік тому +1

      You won't have too wait long ,,it's crazy ,,who's making the money ,,everything as gone up not down

    • @Mason-arc
      @Mason-arc Рік тому

      @ai.driver it's not cheap to get into this business and loans aren't as easy as it was most people are tapped out if you ask me

  • @terrencelawhorne136
    @terrencelawhorne136 Рік тому +1

    We gotta STOP!!!!! There is no difference if your breaking even or not profiting enough to operate your business and take care of personal bills. A driver take a load for those pennies then he blows a tire then he really lost not just money but time and caused more wear and tear on his equipment. STOP!!!!!!! ITS JUST SIMPLY NOT WORTH WORKING FOR FREE!!!!!

  • @KhaliDistrict
    @KhaliDistrict Рік тому +5

    3 stop for 1150$ is crazy. 😂

  • @robertknight7934
    @robertknight7934 Рік тому +1

    I would like to see A.I. (artificial intelligence) replace brokers and dispatchers. It would be cheaper for the companies to run that way not have to pay brokers or dispatchers. That way truckers can get paid more. The more automated we make this industry, the better as long as we keep real people in real trucks.

  • @csway1
    @csway1 Рік тому +10

    Another great video ronen. How are the rates looking crossing into Canada?
    I been around truck all my life and I'm thinking this is going to be the norm untill early next year. Tough times

    • @kathrynw3
      @kathrynw3 Рік тому +2

      It will be at least 2025 before you see the rates move.

    • @MK-fc2hn
      @MK-fc2hn Рік тому

      I cross at lacolle, quebec regularly as a company driver, and the customs agents are seeing over half the trucks coming back to quebec returning empty. Some nights its over 60% I've been told. And it's been this way since about May. It's so bad that they are seeing ontario based trucks crossing there empty in order to find food loads in quebec to bring back to Toronto instead of returning to the gta empty from their northeast u.s. runs. I've been doing this for 20 years and it's never been this bad. I can only imagine how bad the freight rates are. The obvious reason is that consumer demand in canada has been exhausted. And it's just a matter of time before u.s. consumer demand hits a wall too. When that happens, all those empty trucks won't be running at all.

  • @kloud1174
    @kloud1174 Рік тому +2

    If you're a company driver, just know that most owner operators and large carriers want you to remain a company driver.

  • @bigstalion03
    @bigstalion03 Рік тому +7

    I just don’t have that kind of time to deal with those types of boneheaded brokers. I’m averaging 2 per on PO and only out 4 days at a time. Right now Im booked thru October.Then I’ll be looking for a rate jump. I’m definitely not ballin but I think I can make this work until things get better.

  • @philhatch1140
    @philhatch1140 Рік тому +1

    Truck owners are definitely struggling in today’s market. I’ve had quite a few repairs recently and if something doesn’t give soon I’ll be out of business myself.

  • @shoelesstrucker4414
    @shoelesstrucker4414 Рік тому +8

    I would like to see part 2. I thought as a Canadian company, you aren't allowed to pick up and deliver in the states and all loads from the US had to be delivered to Canada. It's called cabotage.

    • @NewmanAttack
      @NewmanAttack Рік тому

      I believe they also operate off of us property to get around the restriction.

    • @shoelesstrucker4414
      @shoelesstrucker4414 Рік тому +2

      @@NewmanAttack I didn't realize until later that they now have a terminal in GA. Makes sense now.

    • @stevejoramo8013
      @stevejoramo8013 Рік тому

      As long as they have a US Driver and USDOT authority it is ok.

    • @Nikowalker007
      @Nikowalker007 Рік тому

      They just opened their first US terminal in Atlanta metro area

    • @stevekeenan4726
      @stevekeenan4726 Рік тому

      Thats how it used to be. But then NAFTA happened ! As long as they have a US mailing address, and even a one car garage as a building, they can pull as many loads as they want, then go back across the border ! Its not right, but thats our govt hard at work screwing things up !!

  • @supertruckertom
    @supertruckertom Рік тому +3

    I thought my load from Riverside CA to Atlanta GA coming home last week at $12,000 was cheap. Large LTL carrier. 30 bills on board. Company policy is nothing goes across country for less than $10k revenue per 53 foot truck or set of 28 foot trailers. I don't see how owner operators are making it.

    • @coronado7998
      @coronado7998 Рік тому

      A dry van load from carrier I'm leased to Iowa to CA pays 6300 gross. FSC .55 I get 75% of the gross 100% FSC. The back haul pays 1.30 gross. .30Fsc. . National avg FSC is .60. Amazing how the FSC on backhaul is 50% less than National Avg. Carriers screwing the drivers for profits so their company trucks fuel cost are 0.

  • @Abiberhanu
    @Abiberhanu Рік тому +1

    On the last load don’t forget the tolls and higher fuel cost up north hopefully enough fuel in VA or or something also have fun finding parking in Connecticut and 40k lbs is a lot of work for the truck n weight on the tires plus d.c traffic bmore traffic n.j traffic n.y traffic omg I hate the north east 😂

  • @waynekarjala2032
    @waynekarjala2032 Рік тому +7

    Brokers want to suck all the profit out of the load and the hell with everybody else.

    • @DUSTINHEARRON
      @DUSTINHEARRON Рік тому

      Shippers are cutting rates daily!!! They aren't ignorant to the market anymore...

  • @684avatar
    @684avatar Рік тому +1

    This is interesting. It’s like drafting baseball players.

  • @josegonzalez4144
    @josegonzalez4144 Рік тому +12

    Wow not even if you have your truck paid off you can’t make money. After fuel cost your bring in 250 dollars in two days of work. It’s time to leave business when we allow this bs