Closing in on 1 yr on my grand Cherokee 4xe and can honestly say I've been extremely satisfied. I'm a big skier and wanted something more comfortable for the i70 traffic 😅 ...... after you depleted the battery, i still get over 30mpg. There have been many times I've reached far greater mpg. Although, being able to charge going down mountains is a big help. The kicker for me is the fact I haven't filled up my gas tank in over a month. 25+ miles doesn't seem like a ton, but if you live in a city of any decent size, just about everything seems to be in range. This jeep has really grown on me, yes I wish it had a bigger battery, but to have both all electric and gas rt now just seems better. (Plz keep in mind I'm coming out of a 2016 Wrangler 4dr base, needless to say it was like coming out of a stage coach and into the future) The charging system here in CO, and especially out in the mountains, is just not where it should be in 2024.
If you are on the highway, say going 85mph you can charge your battery up in eSave mode. There are some deep settings to bring it back up to the level you want when you're in eSave mode.
0 to 60 in 6 seconds or less for a mid sized suv with 4lo and tons of tech/features is very impressive. This is a very capable suv that gets great gas mileage for what it is.
Nice review! I just bought a new GC Overland edition and went with the non-hybrid V6. With the cruise set on 70-75 I’m getting about 26 mpg on I-10. The 2 lane highway going to my house is a 55 speed limit and so far I’m routinely getting 28 mpg on that road. It was nearly $10k more to get my GC in the 4xe version so even if I could save $1,000 a year in gas, it would take me 10 years just to break even. I’ve spoken to a couple of guys at the gas pump running the 4xe and they both told me their hwy mpg was only around 20-22 running 70 or so. The wife and I want a hybrid GC but we’re going to wait until they come a little bit farther along.
I just ordered a 2024 Jeep Grand Cherokee Limited gas only. I was looking for a hybrid, but the problem I found was that the hybrid option was only available with the high end Summit trim packages which included a lot of extras I was not needing or will to pay for. So the upfront cost was much higher than if they had made the hybrid version available in a lower trim package. In the end the hybrid version would not pencil out for me due to the higher upfront cost. I was unlikely to make up the price differences with energy savings, gas and electric.
Great work, I have found it difficult to figure out the cost numbers with my GC 4xe Summit Reserve. Thanks for punching some numbers. I simply drive it try to operate in electric as much as possible for best efficiency. I find it super helpful to use e-Save on some longer trips so I can choose to use battery power only when stopped or I want quiet operation and just plan to use it prior to returning to a charger. It's great to be able to run the HVAC and other systems on the battery only. The only complaints I have is one, no auto hold function and two, crappy auto park function (not that it's really needed). Also, I'd like to see a few safety improvements like, an option to not let the vehicle drive when the rear hatch is open, and warning when charge door open or plugged in. And one more big problem and pro tip, do not remote start the car with the app with the key in the car. If so, you cannot unlock the doors or cancel the auto start. You are simply locked out until the auto start function times out, this is a big problem. I have issues a complaint with Jeep, not expecting a fix.
Sorry, forgot one more thing that may help others, the back hatch locked closed and could not be opened. The dealer had to connect a computer and command the vehicle to re-open the hatch. I have no idea what caused this issue. It only happen once. If other see this issue, you will have to have the dealer re-open the hatch, weird issue.
Thanks for the tips! Just got a 30th Anniversey 4Xe and its a great car and haven't necessarily regretted it yet thankfully. I'll keep these tips in mind!!@@JamboneMan
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SO true goldeneagle - I do a lot of miles for work here in the UK and learnt a long time ago just HOW much money I can lose by buying expensive new cars, putting on the miles and then selling! So - I bought an old Golf diesel for £500 and took it up to 324,000 miles on original engine, clutch and gearbox and still going strong - averaging over 50mpg too! Currently I'm using a little Citroen bought for £300 (even for me - a bargain!), near 60mpg, zero depreciation and in three years it's cost next to nothing in maintenance. People think I'm not interested in cars.....nothing could be further from the truth - but I don't need the tech, complications - and poor vision of modern vehicles.....not to mention the loss of much money!
been asking around (nobody's answering)....If I were to drive 6 hrs, 2-1/2 of which were highway and the remainder mountainous, would my 2.0L gas engine perform well over that long haul? and what is the capacity of the fuel tank? TIA
Is it still Hybrid mode when the battery is "fully" depleted (I now it never fully depletes)? I would say that is more like gas only mode since there is no power from the electric portion of the power train to help out the ICE motor. In this mode I would think the gas motor is spending extra fuel trying to charge the battery, and economy is even worse. That type of test is good for a worst case scenario fuel economy or gas only economy, but if you want true Hybrid economy I would think you'd have to have a full charge to best support the gas engine.
It's all about gentle acceleration, accessory management, and as he stated, not using his AC for the test. I just picked up my GC 4xe last night and I'm looking forward to not buying gas for my weekly commute!
@@forget-me-notlawncare9821 Congrats on your car, I picked up a 2023 GC 4xe few months ago and I love driving it in town for my daily commute on electric only. I love not using gas and the electric get me around town for the 25 miles - at least 30 miles depending on outside temp and driving habits. During the colder winter months when I bought it, I was getting about 20 miles or even less with lower outside temps. Can't wait to see how many miles of electric i get in the summer. So far, I love my 4xe !
Kirk, great video. Do you have a video or info on the alleged FORM issue, (Fuel & Oil Refresh Mode)? Some customers are getting stuck in FORM mode for days or weeks. Thoughts?
It only runs at worse until the tank of gas is done. Unless you are doing mostly electric, it won’t occur. If you are maxing out the battery life only in this car, I think instead you should have gone for pure EV instead, the electric motors are not mega, so don’t expect you pay $60k+ for a car just to save a few dollars on gas. Think of this as a gas car with a battery augmentation…
Thanks for this. I just got the same car and trying to figure out the best way to maximize fuel economy. I like in Santa Cruz ca where my cost per kilowatt is .30 cents per kw/h. Gas costs around $5.40/ gallon and I drive around 300 miles a week. Any info would be great. Should I drive in hybrid only? E -save? Electric then - e save? It’s around 90% highway miles . Please any info would help
Are you sure there's nothing wrong with that blower motor on the A/C fan? It shouldn't be blasting on the lowest setting. If you switch it to defrost mode, does that redirect the airflow in a good way?
I got the 2023 gc 4xe summit reserve and drove almost 2k miles so far. I have driven it through multiple types of terrain but mostly city / highway. I’ve been driving it on hybrid and only filling gas (not charging besides regen braking). My mpg falls between 17-19 overall. So about 340 miles to the tank. Jeep advertises 440 combined city / highway on gas only (23 mpg) so this kinda sucks.
If you drive avg. 25000 km per year and keep it more than 10 years, 4XE Summit is better than Gasoline version overland. If you drive less than that, better get the overland, because the summit version 4XE is so expensive.
I am confused is this hybrid or plug in hybrid ? 30miles of range 17kwh=21cents according to this video to charge 17kwh on DC fast charger is maybe 40cents kWh x17=about 7$ ,that’s a big difference! What if we cannt charge it at home ?
@@mikehenkes it lets you run the car's HVAC as long as there is gas in the tank. for example when camping or using the car as a mobile office. with a pure EV you're limited to what the battery can power.
Interesting proposition given the cost of the option. The MPG really doesn't seem impressive being that a Ford Edge (Which is also a bigger 5 seater with a 2.0t/ 8-Speed) can reach just about the same numbers in similar conditions. Maybe it's the 2.0t that's making up for most of the savings and not the bulky battery.
Not worth it unless you have lvl 2 charger. Go to the grocery store and back and at 50% battery then you have to charge on lvl 1 for 7 hrs? Terrible. Full lvl 1 charge takes 12-14 hrs for 28 miles. Pfff
2023 GC Summit 4xE gives me 20-22 miles in electric only running the ac, CarPlay and listening to music. I’m averaging 17.5 mpg in gas only. This car is far far far less efficient than the nonsense Jeep is claiming as well as imbeciles who can’t pass high school math class. If you’re planning on using this vehicle for long highway trips with the battery depleted, abandon all hope for any level of efficiency….
Closing in on 1 yr on my grand Cherokee 4xe and can honestly say I've been extremely satisfied. I'm a big skier and wanted something more comfortable for the i70 traffic 😅 ...... after you depleted the battery, i still get over 30mpg. There have been many times I've reached far greater mpg. Although, being able to charge going down mountains is a big help. The kicker for me is the fact I haven't filled up my gas tank in over a month. 25+ miles doesn't seem like a ton, but if you live in a city of any decent size, just about everything seems to be in range. This jeep has really grown on me, yes I wish it had a bigger battery, but to have both all electric and gas rt now just seems better. (Plz keep in mind I'm coming out of a 2016 Wrangler 4dr base, needless to say it was like coming out of a stage coach and into the future) The charging system here in CO, and especially out in the mountains, is just not where it should be in 2024.
If you are on the highway, say going 85mph you can charge your battery up in eSave mode. There are some deep settings to bring it back up to the level you want when you're in eSave mode.
Really like the format of this video. Direct comparisons of real driving situations.
Thanks Randy
0 to 60 in 6 seconds or less for a mid sized suv with 4lo and tons of tech/features is very impressive. This is a very capable suv that gets great gas mileage for what it is.
Sport mode will use the 4 cylinder and electric motor in sync for a more realistic engine and acceleration experience.
Nice review! I just bought a new GC Overland edition and went with the non-hybrid V6. With the cruise set on 70-75 I’m getting about 26 mpg on I-10. The 2 lane highway going to my house is a 55 speed limit and so far I’m routinely getting 28 mpg on that road. It was nearly $10k more to get my GC in the 4xe version so even if I could save $1,000 a year in gas, it would take me 10 years just to break even. I’ve spoken to a couple of guys at the gas pump running the 4xe and they both told me their hwy mpg was only around 20-22 running 70 or so. The wife and I want a hybrid GC but we’re going to wait until they come a little bit farther along.
I agree with you. Luckily I got 14k in rebates on the 2024 I just picked up otherwise it’s not worth the price difference.
I own one, i have no issue with pulling off at higher speeds, turbo provide a lot of power.
As the owner of a Pacifica Hybrid with the same or similar power train, I regularly get 30-35 Miles on electric alone.
#1 Kirk Fan right here‼️‼️‼️
Great video! I like this type of test! 🏆
Posted 17s ago I’m pumped for a new review💯
@ 9:33, so you're waiting to run out of battery to check the hybrid MPG?? Doesn't the hybrid MPG benefit greatly from having power in the battery?
I just ordered a 2024 Jeep Grand Cherokee Limited gas only. I was looking for a hybrid, but the problem I found was that the hybrid option was only available with the high end Summit trim packages which included a lot of extras I was not needing or will to pay for. So the upfront cost was much higher than if they had made the hybrid version available in a lower trim package. In the end the hybrid version would not pencil out for me due to the higher upfront cost. I was unlikely to make up the price differences with energy savings, gas and electric.
Great work, I have found it difficult to figure out the cost numbers with my GC 4xe Summit Reserve. Thanks for punching some numbers. I simply drive it try to operate in electric as much as possible for best efficiency. I find it super helpful to use e-Save on some longer trips so I can choose to use battery power only when stopped or I want quiet operation and just plan to use it prior to returning to a charger. It's great to be able to run the HVAC and other systems on the battery only. The only complaints I have is one, no auto hold function and two, crappy auto park function (not that it's really needed). Also, I'd like to see a few safety improvements like, an option to not let the vehicle drive when the rear hatch is open, and warning when charge door open or plugged in. And one more big problem and pro tip, do not remote start the car with the app with the key in the car. If so, you cannot unlock the doors or cancel the auto start. You are simply locked out until the auto start function times out, this is a big problem. I have issues a complaint with Jeep, not expecting a fix.
Sorry, forgot one more thing that may help others, the back hatch locked closed and could not be opened. The dealer had to connect a computer and command the vehicle to re-open the hatch. I have no idea what caused this issue. It only happen once. If other see this issue, you will have to have the dealer re-open the hatch, weird issue.
Thanks for the tips! Just got a 30th Anniversey 4Xe and its a great car and haven't necessarily regretted it yet thankfully. I'll keep these tips in mind!!@@JamboneMan
Teşekkürler genç arkadaş. Emekleriniz için sağolun iyi bir tanıtım olmuş. İngilizcem az da olsa yinede azıcık anlamaya çalışıyorum. Başarılar dilerim her zaman yolun açık olsun kardeşim.
I get about 28-29 miles max in electric in the Philly suburbs, but I leave the HVAC on auto and we have some gentle hills to deal with.
If you had to choose between 2023 GC Summit vs GX460 Premium…Which one would you go for ?
Love this sort of real world info.
I paid $1,000 for 95 Toyota Tercel 4 speed manual for 2nd car. It has the great mpg.👍 Who needs $55,000 Hybrids. 🤭
People who don't want to sit in a very very old and rusty car. 🥴
@@Asiansxsymbol I have replaced and maintained everything by myself. 🙂 It is super easy.
SO true goldeneagle - I do a lot of miles for work here in the UK and learnt a long time ago just HOW much money I can lose by buying expensive new cars, putting on the miles and then selling! So - I bought an old Golf diesel for £500 and took it up to 324,000 miles on original engine, clutch and gearbox and still going strong - averaging over 50mpg too! Currently I'm using a little Citroen bought for £300 (even for me - a bargain!), near 60mpg, zero depreciation and in three years it's cost next to nothing in maintenance. People think I'm not interested in cars.....nothing could be further from the truth - but I don't need the tech, complications - and poor vision of modern vehicles.....not to mention the loss of much money!
been asking around (nobody's answering)....If I were to drive 6 hrs, 2-1/2 of which were highway and the remainder mountainous, would my 2.0L gas engine perform well over that long haul? and what is the capacity of the fuel tank? TIA
Is it still Hybrid mode when the battery is "fully" depleted (I now it never fully depletes)? I would say that is more like gas only mode since there is no power from the electric portion of the power train to help out the ICE motor. In this mode I would think the gas motor is spending extra fuel trying to charge the battery, and economy is even worse. That type of test is good for a worst case scenario fuel economy or gas only economy, but if you want true Hybrid economy I would think you'd have to have a full charge to best support the gas engine.
74 mpge is fantastic!
How did you achieve 33 miles of pure range when it’s only rated for 26? Considering buying this vehicle, just trying to understand, thanks.
It's all about gentle acceleration, accessory management, and as he stated, not using his AC for the test. I just picked up my GC 4xe last night and I'm looking forward to not buying gas for my weekly commute!
Thanks for sharing! Hope you love it man. @@forget-me-notlawncare9821
@@forget-me-notlawncare9821 Congrats on your car, I picked up a 2023 GC 4xe few months ago and I love driving it in town for my daily commute on electric only. I love not using gas and the electric get me around town for the 25 miles - at least 30 miles depending on outside temp and driving habits. During the colder winter months when I bought it, I was getting about 20 miles or even less with lower outside temps. Can't wait to see how many miles of electric i get in the summer. So far, I love my 4xe !
What year is this car?
Kirk, great video. Do you have a video or info on the alleged FORM issue, (Fuel & Oil Refresh Mode)? Some customers are getting stuck in FORM mode for days or weeks. Thoughts?
It only runs at worse until the tank of gas is done. Unless you are doing mostly electric, it won’t occur. If you are maxing out the battery life only in this car, I think instead you should have gone for pure EV instead, the electric motors are not mega, so don’t expect you pay $60k+ for a car just to save a few dollars on gas.
Think of this as a gas car with a battery augmentation…
Captain Kirk's seafood market!😊
Thanks for this. I just got the same car and trying to figure out the best way to maximize fuel economy. I like in Santa Cruz ca where my cost per kilowatt is .30 cents per kw/h. Gas costs around $5.40/ gallon and I drive around 300 miles a week. Any info would be great. Should I drive in hybrid only? E -save? Electric then - e save? It’s around 90% highway miles . Please any info would help
Are you sure there's nothing wrong with that blower motor on the A/C fan? It shouldn't be blasting on the lowest setting. If you switch it to defrost mode, does that redirect the airflow in a good way?
It's the lowest fan setting and it only goes higher.
I got the 2023 gc 4xe summit reserve and drove almost 2k miles so far. I have driven it through multiple types of terrain but mostly city / highway. I’ve been driving it on hybrid and only filling gas (not charging besides regen braking). My mpg falls between 17-19 overall. So about 340 miles to the tank. Jeep advertises 440 combined city / highway on gas only (23 mpg) so this kinda sucks.
If you drive avg. 25000 km per year and keep it more than 10 years, 4XE Summit is better than Gasoline version overland. If you drive less than that, better get the overland, because the summit version 4XE is so expensive.
Does it have true lane centering?
Good job Kirk. Would you take this over the Rav 4 Prime?
Electric off roading any different than usual?
Yes. Instant torque. EV motor runs through 8 speed auto and mechanical 4wd.
Great channel man- I’m a huge Lexus Toyota Subaru loyalist
@@KirkKreifels very impressive running electric through a transmission. It just sounds like it’s awesome.
Nice!👌
We just picked one up
Not all hybrids are created equal
Can you test Mercedes GLE PHEV range
I am confused is this hybrid or plug in hybrid ? 30miles of range 17kwh=21cents according to this video to charge 17kwh on DC fast charger is maybe 40cents kWh x17=about 7$ ,that’s a big difference! What if we cannt charge it at home ?
30Miles of Range 👎🏻🤦🏻 . Then if you run A/C its less ? What a Waste ‘
It’s a plug in, then goes to hybrid. Great for people that don’t want to go all ev yet
All of these PHEV's are compliance cars.
They have a purpose beyond just compliance. Think about how nice it is to have a built-in generator.
You mean PHEVs, right?
@@Asiansxsymbol yes thank you for catching that.
@@toronado455 Well that would be fantastic. Can it power my house or just a few camping appliances?
@@mikehenkes it lets you run the car's HVAC as long as there is gas in the tank. for example when camping or using the car as a mobile office. with a pure EV you're limited to what the battery can power.
Cherokee car is cool
Interesting proposition given the cost of the option. The MPG really doesn't seem impressive being that a Ford Edge (Which is also a bigger 5 seater with a 2.0t/ 8-Speed) can reach just about the same numbers in similar conditions. Maybe it's the 2.0t that's making up for most of the savings and not the bulky battery.
Cool
Not worth it unless you have lvl 2 charger. Go to the grocery store and back and at 50% battery then you have to charge on lvl 1 for 7 hrs? Terrible. Full lvl 1 charge takes 12-14 hrs for 28 miles. Pfff
FIRST!!!
2023 GC Summit 4xE gives me 20-22 miles in electric only running the ac, CarPlay and listening to music. I’m averaging 17.5 mpg in gas only. This car is far far far less efficient than the nonsense Jeep is claiming as well as imbeciles who can’t pass high school math class. If you’re planning on using this vehicle for long highway trips with the battery depleted, abandon all hope for any level of efficiency….
Very laggy and jerks a ton
so, my camry hybrid at 50 mpg consumes $670~ ...cheaper then driving on only electric jeep...hmmm.
Sounds right
Sedans > SUVs and this is why.
@@faheemabbas3965 its a reflection not criticism, i owned a sequioa before the camry
No, not really, 74mpge is much better then 50 mpg
@phileasler5401 sorry, you are a stupid moron. Watch the fucking video again moron and reply to something that was said.