Our Latest Long-Term Tester: 2023 Jeep Grand Cherokee 4xe Plug-in Hybrid | What We Bought & Why

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  • Опубліковано 26 вер 2024

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  • @edmundscars
    @edmundscars  Рік тому +6

    Does the 4xe’s plug-in hybrid capability make the Jeep Grand Cherokee more or less attractive to you? Let us know in the comments.

    • @naveenthemachine
      @naveenthemachine Рік тому +2

      It’s worth it. But get the pricey summit trim. It’s worth it. It makes Japanese luxury brands look like econo boxes whereas Jeep looks and feels more expensive than it is

    • @mz4420
      @mz4420 Рік тому

      With the all electric and gas mileage? It's a joke 😂😂😂

    • @naveenthemachine
      @naveenthemachine Рік тому

      @@mz4420 at this price point fuel economy shouldn’t be a concern

  • @WhalerGA
    @WhalerGA 3 місяці тому +3

    I just rented a Grand Cherokee 4xe for a week during a recent trip. It was a 2024 model with 10k miles. My impressions:
    - Very quiet and comfortable ride on the highway.
    - Touchscreen is very well-positioned.
    - The 470 lb-ft of torque is seriously fun.
    - The gas engine is sometimes very nasty sounding at slow vehicle speeds, even in the low rpm range. The obnoxious sound wasn't always present when the engine was running. I couldn't quite figure out why it was so thrashy at times and relatively quiet at others. But it sounded downright awful on occasion.
    - All four doors sounded like they were going to fall off when closed. I don't think there was actually anything wrong with the doors but the sound when closing (maybe coming from the door latches) was VERY confidence-uninspiring.
    - No way is the 4xe worth the $15k-$20k upcharge over the gas-powered Grand Cherokee.
    On the whole, I enjoyed the highway drive and the fantastic low-end torque around town, but the thrashing nature of the gas engine and the crappy-sounding doors reminded me that I was driving a Stellantis product. Based on my experience, I would NEVER buy this vehicle or the gas-powered version.

    • @MrMustangrick
      @MrMustangrick 28 днів тому +1

      Your absolutely correct, just buy the standard V6 model. Less cost and less compilations.

  • @DevPack
    @DevPack Рік тому +18

    why did you get the $2000 infotainment system. Rather should have got the luxury package for $1500.

  • @Quickfleet
    @Quickfleet Рік тому +9

    Well for about 64k before tax you’ll get vented seats, digital rear view mirror, the most powerful gc currently available with a 0-60 1 sec quicker than the 5.7 v8(low 5 sec range). You can get the capri leather with the ventalited seats, digital mirror and more for only 2k on top of the 61k base price. It also has acoustic glass on the windshield front two windows AND rear two windows. Quiet ride, smooth, lots of tech plus with the rebates your only looking at low 50s considering most dealer discounts. I got my base 4xe for 42k otd and a trailhawk 4xe for 46k. At these prices it is a solid contender!

    • @zekew7546
      @zekew7546 Рік тому +1

      Thanks for info. I’m shopping Pacific NW, so how long ago did you pay those prices for the two GC? Estimate of percentage between MSRP and your final OutTheDoor price before taxes? Thanks

    • @Quickfleet
      @Quickfleet Рік тому +1

      @@zekew7546 these two were purchased less than a month ago, in the registering state our sales tax is capped at $500 so makes it real easy. The region I got the rebates I was southeast not sure what price looks like in your region. I used a company Carmaculate to help me understand how to take advantage of all rebates and what not to get best price free too

  • @jbmiii4813
    @jbmiii4813 Рік тому +4

    Lux package at $1500 is a better add-on than 2 screens. Ventilated seats, 360 view, Capri leather, parking sensors, electric rear view mirror, and more come with Lux. If you have a short commute you can go all electric and you can still do a road trip. PHEV's cut a good balance for people who have EV range anxiety.

  • @randallkuna4022
    @randallkuna4022 7 місяців тому +1

    You make good and honest reviews.
    Nice job and much needed.
    Hope to watch more.

  • @bnast6849
    @bnast6849 5 місяців тому +1

    Rear seat entertainment package... All I had as a kid was fighting with my brother for entertanment. 😂🤣

  • @superawesomefuntimego
    @superawesomefuntimego 11 місяців тому +4

    I picked up a 4xe Overland a few weeks ago. With the current lease deals discounting them ($13500 in rebates and huge dealer discounts($8500 in my case)) the can be leased fantastically low payments compared to the MSRP. I would not buy though, Jeep has over priced the 4XE by at least $5000, likely due to the fact that people can get the EV tax credit and they are trying to use that as incentive to charge more. That said, I am an avid mountain biker and go off grid hunting with my dad a couple times a year, so I needed a off road capable rig where most SUV's would not quality and we've owned 3 other Jeep's in the past, which have all proven very reliable with us, so we trust them. The air suspension on the Overland is legit, it makes the ride excellent and really adds in the ability to get over more advanced terrain. For daily driving, my commute to work falls right in line with the pure electric range and I have a level 2 charger at home and there, so I can always keep it topped. Right now I've put almost 1200 miles on it and am still on my original tank of gas (although I am due to fill up again) which equals close to 60mpg equivalent. Obviously if I had a longer commute or could not charge as often and was forced to use the gas engine more, that would be less. The overland trim is a decent step up in materials compared to the base 4xe, but at the price being asked, Jeep really should have not skimped in some places as much as they are.

    • @pavelvolkov571
      @pavelvolkov571 10 місяців тому

      Would you share dealership with 8,500 discount?

    • @superawesomefuntimego
      @superawesomefuntimego 10 місяців тому

      @@pavelvolkov571 Seattle Jeep, the discount varies by trim, but last I looked they still had some great deals going on.

    • @qwuapobanks5124
      @qwuapobanks5124 10 місяців тому

      How much for a lease like 500$

    • @charismao5515
      @charismao5515 9 місяців тому

      I’m thinking of leasing now. Could you please share: what are your lease terms, payment etc… ? Thank you!

    • @superawesomefuntimego
      @superawesomefuntimego 9 місяців тому

      @@charismao5515 I am not sure if they have the same lease deals now since my terms were from a couple months back. But it is a 39/12k lease through Stellantis. $0 down, except first months lease payment. Grand Cherokee 4Xe Overland ($78k sticker with no dealer markups or forced extras). $655/mo. A Overland without the extra packages would have been cheaper per month, but the dealer only had ones with extras stuff on hand. Total lease payments over term, $25500.

  • @spcneary
    @spcneary Рік тому +8

    Rear screens are pretty much pointless these days. If you have the money to buy such a loaded vehicle your kids already have a Nintendo switch, a phone, or both.

  • @Jimmy_Cavallo
    @Jimmy_Cavallo 11 місяців тому +3

    💥 I just saw $399 for 24 months on a FB ad.

    • @charismao5515
      @charismao5515 9 місяців тому +1

      Can you please provide the link to this ad? And, was this on a 4xe model?

  • @alp3781
    @alp3781 7 днів тому

    I have the same car Overland 4XE, almost 2 years now. I have to say, fantastic car all around. Simply a Range Rover by Jeep, but I HATE the 4XE. This car should not have a 2.0 L block. Its simply loud and works hard when you demand power. The plug in is useless via Level 1 charger. All night for 27 miles, maybe. The Overland is very comfortable and so smooth via the air ride. The size is perfect. Options are amazing on it. My lease is over soon. V6 or 8, I am for it 100%. I hope I-6 Turbo will be available too, soon enough.

  • @timothyreents9826
    @timothyreents9826 10 місяців тому +1

    We ordered a new Grand Cherokee about 18 months ago. We purchased the Limited and got some of the extras we wanted like the vented seats. We considered the 4xe, but the up charge came in much higher than what Jeep first indicated what it would cost. We settled for the V6 since my wife's previous Grand Cherokee had the same engine with zero issues for over 120,000 miles.
    I am not sure how, but our new Jeep gets better mileage, even though being larger than the previous model. We averaged about 28.5 mpg on a trip to Colorado and back from Illinois. We average about 24.5 for the rest of our driving, much of which is two lane rural commuting and trips in town.
    We just couldn't justify the additional cost for the 4xe, even with the government incentives. I am curious how the 4xe will hold its value a few years down the road.

  • @fanman71
    @fanman71 Рік тому +5

    Cool video. Wouldn't you get the $7,500 EV Tax Credit for that vehicle ? They build that into the lease price right, that's why it makes so much sense.

    • @norval82
      @norval82 2 місяці тому

      I for the $7500 tax credit on mines

  • @spuwho
    @spuwho 2 місяці тому

    I just rented a 2024 model. Upon discovery, it had never in 1 year of use been used outside of hybrid mode. (15k miles) So the battery always showed 1% or less. So I put it in e-mode to let the battery charge, but after sucking down 3 gallons of gas I was only up to 23%. So looking in the trunk, I found the included charger kit and it was still in its factory wrapping. Plugged it in (120v) and let it charge all night to 100%. I am assuming this is the first time ever this battery had a full charge. After switching back to hybrid mode, it now drives with no ICE assist and reports it will add 26 miles of range beyond the gas tank. The regenerative braking mode is interesting but nearly gives me motion sickness in how it slows the car down. Aggressive, yes. Charging, yes. The car reports an undetected fob about 2 of every 10 starts. Nearly got stuck in a mall parking lot in 92 degree heat because it couldn't detect the fob. The light sensor for the dash is too sensitive and while driving through mostly cloudy skies, the center screen would flicker back and forth from day mode to night mode. Distracting. This model has the Alpine based audio system and it will not convince anyone that OEM car audio has improved. The fit of materials of interior were excellent and not expected from a Stellantis product. The doors close with a solid sound. The rear hatch close button is on the left pillar inside the vehicle, I was expecting it to be on the hatch door itself, so there is no chance of it coming down on your arm or head. Would I buy it, no. But I do like the Stellantis 3 mode gas/EV system.

  • @ktpinnacle
    @ktpinnacle Рік тому +4

    The Summit level trim is very nice, but more so because Jeep is offering deals these days. I suspect even better deals this fall.

  • @edgraziani5019
    @edgraziani5019 9 місяців тому +2

    I F’ing hate mine so much and I only had it for two months. I’m breaking the lease as quick as I can

    • @charismao5515
      @charismao5515 9 місяців тому +1

      Own no…I was thinking if leasing. Can you please share: what do you hate about it? And, what are your lease terms?

    • @ScottyMac55
      @ScottyMac55 8 місяців тому +1

      why?

    • @edgraziani5019
      @edgraziani5019 8 місяців тому +1

      @@ScottyMac55 for starters, it’s been at the dealer 3 times since we got it because the full electric mode won’t work. Certain buttons will stop working like the trunk button to lower the trunk. The memory seats will reset to default about once every two weeks. The auto dimmer for the display screen won’t dim at night when the headlights are on and I have to constantly turn the screen off because it’s so bright. The screen will also glitch and turn off the Bluetooth randomly about every other day. Also, my wife works 2 miles from the house and this is why she was sold on this truck because she can use electric to go to work. But if you only use electric for more than a few days, this sensor comes on and makes you use the ICE only and won’t go to hybrid mode. The only way to turn off the sensor is to drive for a consecutive 2 hours without turning the vehicle off so it can go back into hybrid mode

    • @edgraziani5019
      @edgraziani5019 8 місяців тому

      @@ScottyMac55 FORM has come on 4 times in 3 months. Multiple electrical issues, and as of today it come on a fifth time and we’ve used ICE for the last 6 days. We plugged it in last night and my wife had to drive in ICE this morning. It makes no sense. So today I went to the dealership and broke my lease. I had to pay a lot since this garbage doesn’t hold value but I don’t care. I’m done with it and I don’t have to get aggravated anymore

  • @jamesholden8625
    @jamesholden8625 4 місяці тому

    We were considering a loaded limited 4x4 V-6 (sorry I don't trust Jeep and electronics yet so stuck with the tried and true Pentastar and has been wonderful). The limited trim and below isn't giving you the full experience. The Capri leather, door panels and dash, hell even buttons are different on the limited and below. We tried thinking we were saving a ton getting a loaded limited but it just didn't make sense when spending that kind of money, close to $60 for a limited you might as well get an Overland like we did it's night and day. The Nappa leather smells and feels luxurious (Summit even more so) the door panels are buttery soft leather with contrast stitching. appropriate sized rims and front tow hooks (regardless if you use them look badass). Air suspension, the welcome lighting/door handle lighting gives it a premium vibe then you add massaging seats and the Mcintosh system it's a hard car to buy below the Overland unless you're willing to give up some features which make the car feel cheap. This isn't a cheap car don't buy the stripper version unless you can live with it. Otherwise get a crossover.

  • @mattm4957
    @mattm4957 8 місяців тому +1

    When will you provide your next update? Looking for some long-term reliability

  • @user-cf7vl4bo4o
    @user-cf7vl4bo4o Рік тому +7

    Can you do some towing during your long term test?

  • @timothyreents9826
    @timothyreents9826 10 місяців тому

    We purchased a new Grand Cherokee two door shortly after they were available. We were interested in the 4xe figuring most of my wife's commute could be done fully electric. When Jeep finally announced the cost difference, even with state and federal incentives, we decided it would not be worth the added cost.
    Our 3.6 powered GC Limited two row averages about 22-23 for overall driving and as much as 28 for all highway driving.
    I know everyone's driving is different, but I would like to see if charging at home, and normal use will make the added expense of purchase the right choice. Would love to see the math on ICE versus plug in hybrid ownership cost comparisons over an average ownership period of time. I know costs will vary state to state, but maybe a general overall, to include fuel, battery charging, initial purchase, resale, and maintenance costs.
    Thanks. I really enjoy your videos.

  • @cazbantu4233
    @cazbantu4233 Рік тому +1

    Definitely should’ve opted for tan interior

  • @sd-pv6it
    @sd-pv6it Рік тому +3

    Would be nice if you could do maybe 100 miles per charge.

  • @reduxith
    @reduxith Рік тому +31

    64k is extremely steep for this imo…stellantis SUV/Trucks are overpriced for what they deliver.

    • @MrRaitzi
      @MrRaitzi Рік тому

      Yeah. Consortium is maybe the worst ranked in reliability. Looks great still but makes no sense to gamble.

    • @bret9741
      @bret9741 Рік тому +3

      We have owned a lot of cars, trucks and SUV’s. We’re nearing the time where we may only buy one more car before we aren’t able to safely drive unless driverless cars improve and the cost drops dramatically.
      Anyway, our family, including my grown children, have always been car snobs… I know…it’s a waste of $$$$ when you add it up over a lifetime (seriously). I tend to drive my pickups (I’m ex Navy, retire airline captain but have always kept a small construction company going since the 1990’s building luxury homes) and my wife’s large, medium SUVs, kids cars have been extremely numerous over the past 3 decades. From high end BMW’s X5/X3, Acura MDX’s, Porsche Cayenne, Porsche Panamera, Tesla S (2013) Tesla Model 3 2021) and a myriad of other vehicles including F-150 Platinums and RAM Laramie Longhorns.
      The point is we have owned a lot of vehicles. Normally we sell them outright when their paid off and we get the big for something new. My wife’s favorite vehicle right now is this 2017 Overland Grande Cherokee. I think it’s the fact that it was so affordable and yet in some ways nicer than every vehicle she’s owned before. I could spend hours talking about all our families cars.. my experience driving, and being a passenger but it would be torture to read.
      I think this is how we sum up this great mid size SUV… it’s a great luxury value especially if you wait for Chrysler / Jeep end of year sales you can often save 6-10%!
      Well.. this old man keeps falling asleep while trying to type with his thumbs!! Who would have thought 50 years ago?? LOL. That’s my 2c

    • @chuckderuyter
      @chuckderuyter Рік тому

      It’s actually cheaper if you get the tax credit of 7500 and 2k from the state. Add the fact that it’s 370hp/470tq even from a completely depleted all electric range. Plus all the other fun you can have like using it to power your campsite if you go camping. Powering appliances in a power outage possibly. It’s a hybrid so your mpg might be better than the gas only version.

    • @Natethegreat200c
      @Natethegreat200c 11 місяців тому

      @@MrRaitziyou don’t know grand Cherokee.

    • @Natethegreat200c
      @Natethegreat200c 11 місяців тому

      You obviously don’t know what they deliver

  • @LibertyLinkMediaGroup
    @LibertyLinkMediaGroup 3 місяці тому

    You got a VHS of the Sound of Music? You must've been rich.

  • @smcglory75
    @smcglory75 2 місяці тому

    Have you towed with it? If y I u have what is the MPG?

  • @jettand11
    @jettand11 Рік тому +2

    Question that I haven't seen answered: How does the 4xe work for a road-trip owner? Sure it's great for a short commute, but how about lots of 400-500 mile days, but still handle the trails and backroads in the southwest? (More technical than an X-Pro Telluride.) The V6 GC has better highway mileage, larger tank and more range.

  • @ktpinnacle
    @ktpinnacle 9 місяців тому +1

    Update?

  • @jimfisher8990
    @jimfisher8990 6 місяців тому

    I’m still trying to figure out whether I wanna look more at the V6 due to the almost identical fuel mileage

  • @jeffreyconstance6435
    @jeffreyconstance6435 Рік тому +6

    They had a lease deal thru07/02/2023 for like 499/mo with around 4-5K upfront. Seemed like a good deal…should have known if it sounds too good to be true, it probably is…especially at Jeep

    • @ScottyMac55
      @ScottyMac55 8 місяців тому

      Why? What was your issue?

  • @TwilightMysts
    @TwilightMysts 11 місяців тому +1

    I am intrigued by the 4xE, but that price tag is just stupid. I bought my Premium model Volt 4 years ago for about 34k. I am not going to pay twice as much for the basic package Grand Cherokee. While I love the benefits of a PHEV, I wouldn't be willing to pay 60k+ for a PREMIUM 4xE, let alone the basic package.

  • @jeff78980
    @jeff78980 8 місяців тому

    As of Jan 6 2024 the Lease option with $5k down is $800/month. So, that $461 price per month is LONG gone.

  • @CS-zz2bf
    @CS-zz2bf 5 місяців тому

    @edmundscars When are we going to see an update on the long term test?

  • @Ian-mv4qq
    @Ian-mv4qq Рік тому +1

    That price for only 25 miles of all electric range and 23 mpg once the battery runs out sounds like you just signed up for a charity 😀

  • @sunnybuns2008
    @sunnybuns2008 11 місяців тому

    Love my 22 limited

  • @alikhalid6282
    @alikhalid6282 9 місяців тому

    At the end of the video I couldn’t understand what is the recommendation ?

  • @jakey20022
    @jakey20022 4 місяці тому

    You mean the Trailhawk version at 1:22

  • @brandonv8721
    @brandonv8721 Рік тому +1

    I cannot get parts for my 13 RAM due to EOL, if you keep your vehicles, run away

  • @brianwright6522
    @brianwright6522 10 місяців тому

    Getting ready to buy one. Need to know if it can flat tow ( dinghy)

  • @salmanhamirani6475
    @salmanhamirani6475 Рік тому +1

    For example you drive 44miles (my commute) on electric every single day for 5 years. You will save roughly $11500 (not including charging expense) on fuel. Still doesn’t make up for that extra $20k premium, not evn half when you take in charging expense and the time needed to charge.. The greedy conglomerate is actually ripping off people…

  • @mlhbrx96
    @mlhbrx96 11 місяців тому +1

    When yoy say "Rubicon" I assume you mean "Trailhawk".

  • @brownpapi960
    @brownpapi960 11 місяців тому

    Is this vehicle qualify for $7500 fed ev rebate ??

  • @beardandbrew403
    @beardandbrew403 Рік тому

    May want to confirm the info on the leather seats. I am leasing a 2022 GC 4xe limited and it has Capri leather seats. I believe they come standard. Perhaps I am unaware of a change to the 2023 model, but it may be worth looking into. Looking forward to your long term experience.

    • @mikeworkman1759
      @mikeworkman1759 4 місяці тому

      It's Capri "leatherette" according to Jeep's website...it's fake leather, I was pretty bummed to find this out too

  • @jimcole2648
    @jimcole2648 7 місяців тому

    Ouch. The v6 overland is that price loaded

  • @zlattcaveslink1687
    @zlattcaveslink1687 Рік тому +2

    I’ve got one but @ 2k miles it already has multiple electrical issues & ecm problems

    • @joetravieso3165
      @joetravieso3165 10 місяців тому

      nice but i love my BUICK ENCLAVE.

    • @charismao5515
      @charismao5515 9 місяців тому

      Can you please share what issues you’ve had since leasing? Would you recommend getting the non hybrid limited version - or another suv all together? Also, what were your lease terms?

  • @sergeantschlumpf6368
    @sergeantschlumpf6368 Рік тому

    Quite nice tbh.

  • @bobman717
    @bobman717 Рік тому

    This is pretty cool but the price, with no charger even!, is way too high

  • @MrMustangrick
    @MrMustangrick 28 днів тому +1

    Leasing is for losers. If it so good you should just buy it.

  • @sergeantschlumpf6368
    @sergeantschlumpf6368 Рік тому

    5:35 that’s not funny. The past 15y Grand Cherokee has had rear seat screens. lol. This is just a hell of a strip up 😲.

  • @paulm6481
    @paulm6481 Рік тому +1

    The decontented this gen of Grand Cherokee. Vinyl instead of fake leather. Cheap shiny black plastic everywhere. I pass until they fix these issues.

    • @ktpinnacle
      @ktpinnacle Рік тому

      You pay extra for better materials at touch points.

    • @paulm6481
      @paulm6481 Рік тому

      @@ktpinnacle You miss the point. In prior gen Limited got you leather. And no shiny black piano in any part of interior.

    • @ktpinnacle
      @ktpinnacle Рік тому +1

      @@paulm6481 Limited has leather. And I don't like the piano black too much either, but even Porsche uses it. It's ubiquitous.

    • @paulm6481
      @paulm6481 Рік тому

      @@ktpinnacle Limited now has vinyl.

    • @ktpinnacle
      @ktpinnacle Рік тому +1

      @@paulm6481 It's leatherette (fake leather). Some actually prefer it. And just like Jeep, other brands, even premium ones, use it for midrange models. But I don't want to get into an argument about how manufacturers are raising prices and cutting costs. They all did it during covid and we all pay too high a price if we buy these days.

  • @bartwaggoner2000
    @bartwaggoner2000 Рік тому +2

    Hmm. Turbo. Multiple batteries. Gas engine. Electric motor. Transmission. Multiple cooling systems. Many computers. DO NOT OWN OUT OF WARRANTY (nor take off road far from services!)

  • @causeofgehenna4501
    @causeofgehenna4501 Рік тому +4

    When the battery is drained, you are left with an overpriced 4cyl. You can save your money and look elsewhere. Not to mention Stellantis has HORRIBLE quality control!

    • @mowcowbell
      @mowcowbell 11 місяців тому +1

      The battery is never drained, there is a reserve. How do I know this? I own a Wrangler 4xe which shares the same powertrain as the GC.

  • @robertboudreau5956
    @robertboudreau5956 10 місяців тому

    You’re funny.

  • @Rockybalboa541
    @Rockybalboa541 Рік тому +1

    This will go down as jeeps most unreliable power train. Watch videos on the complexity of this power train and all the fail points (the car care nut videos)

  • @jamesdeloney1490
    @jamesdeloney1490 Місяць тому

    To much for this car 😮

  • @kristopheraknight
    @kristopheraknight Рік тому

    This is why Jeep has the highest inventory on the lot of any brand. Overpriced by $15,000, looks old on the outside, cheap plastic on the inside and has a basic, low-end gauge cluster from a $25,000 Compass!

  • @bengerendash
    @bengerendash 9 місяців тому

    This was not a long term review at all.

  • @JackDanna-p8f
    @JackDanna-p8f 6 місяців тому

    DO NOT BUY THIS JEEP------Not even being rude....The EV sounds like a broken brake pad. it's absolute torture. even plays over/through music. can't roll down the windows under 20mph. Lease swapping as soon as I can.

  • @OnlineCitizenTV
    @OnlineCitizenTV Рік тому +2

    I’m glad people disliked this video RIGOROUSLY 😂
    You just pre-viewed the car. You bought the cheapest just to drive a grand Cherokee. Move to overland to feel why people disliked your videos, dude 😂

  • @highwaycruiser6486
    @highwaycruiser6486 5 місяців тому

    Another useless mainstream review without a touch of real usage, no valuable information

  • @AnonYmous-mh2us
    @AnonYmous-mh2us 8 місяців тому

    as soon as i heard profanity bleeped out...i was out.
    its a shame so many people, especially when its adults, refuse to communicate without profanity.

  • @naveenthemachine
    @naveenthemachine Рік тому +2

    Go through the build quality and if anything holds up. Then you can see if the clowns who laugh at Jeep reliability are right or not

    • @zachmassy5215
      @zachmassy5215 Рік тому +2

      we’ve had Jeeps for years now. no problems what so ever. so say what you want… 😒

    • @naveenthemachine
      @naveenthemachine Рік тому +1

      @@zachmassy5215I believe you. I was referring to others who say otherwise

    • @zachmassy5215
      @zachmassy5215 Рік тому

      @@naveenthemachine ahh, okay.

    • @Nick-qx1vf
      @Nick-qx1vf Рік тому

      That's part of the reason long-term tests (like this one) exist!

    • @zachmassy5215
      @zachmassy5215 Рік тому

      @@Nick-qx1vf very true.

  • @ktpinnacle
    @ktpinnacle 11 місяців тому +1

    Update?

  • @pabloescobar2555
    @pabloescobar2555 3 години тому

    Hello,I want to buy summit hybrid in Europe.Not too popular here this brand.Plese tell me the true real life consuption with only gas 90 km/h. /100 km. How many liter? And only ev range in real life use not official factory catalog numbers. Owners told from 33 km tob53 km.thx

  • @skylinemusik1
    @skylinemusik1 7 місяців тому

    Ridiculous how every Fkn car is this expensive and that’s why the car lots are full of cars no one is buying 💩

  • @Arsing116
    @Arsing116 Рік тому

    Shouldn’t??? 😂. If so I just didn’t expect that.

  • @ItsAlive111
    @ItsAlive111 Рік тому +1

    1:49 Look at all the coolant tanks looking pretty ready to leak in 3 to 5 years right at the end of warranty!