Jeep Grand Cherokee Overland 4XE - Boredom Has Vanished - Test Drive | Everyday Driver
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- Опубліковано 31 сер 2022
- Each of the guys imagine different vehicles when talking about Jeeps, so they drive this one to discover what benefit or detriment the hybrid system brings to a Trail Rated Grand Cherokee. Should buyers consider this alternative, or is it still too early for off-road hybrids to be any good?
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I dig the passenger screen idea for road trips. Like, passenger finds waypoints and pushes it to the drivers nav. Love that idea.
Finally something in a vehicle that allows the passenger to get the answer to the burning question “are we there yet”, without having to distract the driver! Great review guys!
You guys have the best explanation on why this 4XE set up works well. I have not heard until this review that even when the battery is low, there will still be contributing electric motor torque adding to the 4 cyl, so you will never just be on 4 cyl turbo power alone. I hate the idea of a little engine in a heavy jeep.
That said, as a performance car enthusiast who owns a manual C5 Corvette and also enjoys well designed internal combustion engines, this is not my thing. I bought a Explorer ST which I actually enjoy driving. Even after I get right out of the C5. The 3.0 ecoboost is a great set up and that SUV in general I have been really impressed with. I wish Jeep would put their new Hurricane turbo I6 in this new GC and GCL. For those that tow and like the utility aspect of jeeps, that would add a large increase in capability without needing the added complexity, weight, and expense of the hybrid powertrain.
Having a family with two young kids, and a couple of expensive hobbies, I'm not at a place in life where I can afford this GC hybrid. It's just too much $$$ for what it is, but I absolutely get the appeal. For me I will continue enjoying my relatively fun to drive ST which gets better gas mileage than the 3.6 pentastar and way more power and torque than the 5.7 hemi.
Keep up the good work guys. I really enjoy your vids. You've got the pulse of legit car enthusiasts for sure.
I have a 22 Wrangler 4xe. Awesome car. I fill up once every two months. If you WFH or have a really short commute the 4xe is really a compelling offer.
What's your range like? I have a Rubicon 4xe and since the weather has been nice, I've been getting 29-31 miles per charge with no AC on. I'm in Seattle too, so not too hot so not heat loss on the battery.
@@stefanpetrut1 I’m a little less but I’m in AZ and its 1000 degrees here. Probably 24 to 27 miles. City driving uses way less battery than highway. Highway is probably 27 and city is probably 24.
Informative and entertaining as always!
Quick correction on the comment about the weight of the Cayenne E-Hybrid, I believe you may have accidentally quoted the gross weight. According to google, the GC 4xe weighs in at 5,325 lbs. in its lightest form. By comparison, Porsche quotes the Cayenne E-Hybrid at 5,164 lbs. on their website. Rest easy Paul, Porsche wins again:)
Don’t get it twisted though, I love the show and am becoming particularly fond of Todd’s continued unimpressed-ness with press briefings. I just had to be that guy in the comments;)
“Rest easy“ wtf
Love you guys, would have liked to hear about range or mpg since this is a 4xe. Easy enough to look up, but would have been nice to have in the video.
I have owned a 95 zj, a 98 zj, lol and briefly a 2002 wj (transmission went out) and my wife owns a 2018 wk that she loves. I'll always love the jeep series
On the road these trucks are beautiful all of them I really love there black on black trucks with the black wheels and black badges this is a pretty truck In person
Thanks!
I am currently car shopping and this is one of my top vehicles. Definitely waiting for prices/incentives to help me out.
Great review guys. i have a 2023 GC 4xe Base Model with Luxury Group II. MSRP of $66K. Tax credit of $7500 used by Stellantis as cap cost reduction on lease was very helpful. Dealer gave some love too. I did not buy the car for fuel efficiency. I deserve demerits for that. I got the power set up for just that. Power. Here's the best part. You do not have to plug this car in. That's right. You can if you are into hyper mileage but you don't have to. In hybrid mode the power is modulated by the computer. If you accelerate hard it grabs both the gas and electric systems and is much quicker than the Hemi. That's off off the line, on-ramp acceleration or passing. If you run the car in e-Save, set the e-Save mode to recharge it recharges very efficiently as you drive. Using max re-gen helps a bit too. If you accelerate aggressively in e-Save it grabs both the gas and electric systems and it takes off as well or even better than in E-Hybrid mode. I have 2500 miles on the car and I have yet to plug it in. I toggle back and forth between E-Hybrid and e-Save and that's it. The car is fast.
The average buyer doesn’t need the top trim. You can save money and go for the lower trim and still get a lot of vehicle for the money.
Love the Tudor!!!
Good eye. Tudor GMT Pepsi.
Curious if you feel the same about the Wrangler, which is the only convertible / open-top electric vehicle currently available.
I own a 2018 Overland Diesel and just test drove the 22 new body Overland, way way too much candy, and after discussions with several Crylser service departments and dealer mechanics, they already are software update nightmares (a big problem with Jeep GC anyways still dealing with the Sirius Guardian update but there working out with 1 more recall to deal with ) ...my 2018 overland diesel is tighter more sold drive and with a tighter turn radius, and runs like a champ, in my opinion (the bi-monthly exhaust clean out is a wee pain). In my opinion with a side-by-side comparison 2018 is more masculine and cleaner it's a Grand Cherokee, not a Land Rover, I had no clue why the Salesman emphasized the point that it was modeled after one. Mind you the massage seats were very very nice the Macintosh speakers as well. Downside the dropped a couple of the apps in the interface I use but again a personal thing.
I was offered a good deal on my 2018 only 72k Can and on trade in was offered between 50k and 64k Canadian at the 78k best deal for the 22 Overland at the dealerships I visited, which made me smile. The 22 new body is nice but I can wait I can I own a very nice Overland anyways...
Nice vehicle but I was surprised by it's weight.
I like in BC and I do take it off road. It is vey capable!
If jeep let me build my idea of the grand cherokee it would be equipped with a 4 cylinder diesel motor with the electrical components attached as depicted above. This would be the ideal motor/transition in my book.
Another quick correction, the range of the current Cayenne E-Hybrid is closer to 30miles - I think you are quoting the electric range of the older model.
I agree - e-save is technically gas mode ... I actually pushed the gas symbol thinking that would put the vehicle in gas only mode … it opened the gas tank … maybe that gas tank should not need in the same line as the other 3? Misleading?
14:45 IRL, charging via 120V, taking 14 hours is just fine. I could count on one hand the number of times being able to charge in 2 hours would have had a significant effect on the usefulness of this platform. In most cases I use up the battery, charge it overnight and am ready to go the next day, OR, I'm making a long trip where I won't be home to use the 2 hour charger, anyway. And like many batteries, that first 75% charge takes about as long as the last 25%, so even if you exhaust the battery and charge 120V for 4-5 hours, you get some decent miles out of that.
Great Tudor GMT Pepsi.
Love my grand Cherokee just mpg is terrible. N was looking forward to that model but damn 75k sheesh way overpriced n it’s not huge difference in saving on gas.
Big question, the Wrangler 4xe has been highly criticized for the hybrid jerkiness. Was it fixed in this one?
The hybrid jerkiness on a wrangler 4xe isn't as bad as they say. I have one and you have to slightly re-train yourself how to drive. The biggest issue is in "Hybrid" mode and going past where the ecu deems acceptable for battery only power. At that pint the transmission has to downshift, engine has to kick on and match the revs to the speed your going, and then transfer that power to the road. No hybrid is good at this, which is the biggest issue with them from a driving standpoint. Once you learn where that limit is, or start using the other modes (Electric and Esave) for their intended uses, it's a lot better.
so you had bought a 2015 G cherokee, it sounds like you got rid of it. Did you stay in the jeep family. If not have you done a review on the type of vehicle you have now?
My x5 45e does 40 miles and the battery drains slowly and then rebuild back up pretty quickly. And 10.5 inches of ground clearance with the air suspension. I know you all didn’t like that vehicle but I definitely cross shopped these,the grand Cherokee 4xe just didn’t meet the driver experience and it cost more than the bmw??? Just couldn’t swallow that.
Your right, it would be foolish to get the 4xe over a x5e ...for the price BMW all the way...
Are you Black?
In the bmw manual it actually says not to go off road. If you drive paved roads bmw off road Jeep!
My brother-in-law is a Jeep diehard and he's always asking me for updates on hybrid and EV tech, but at $75k, even he's going to have trouble justifying such a purchase, especially when there are highly rated vehicles like the Hyundai Santa Fe Plug In Hybrid that start at $40,000. Is the Jeep really $30k more car?
Why dont my 2023 GC overland 4xe have a passenger screen?
Can we all stop pretending anyone is going to be taking this offroad ? Yes it's a jeep but if you live on a dirt road and consider that " off road" than a corrola can go "off road"
Just bought one. Love it. Chose this one in the Summit Reserve version over a Range Rover.
What kind of effective mileage are you getting?
That piano black. What were they thinking? To me prior gen was a better vehicle in every aspect.
I've had the prior gen for two+ years. It is a rock star on and off road!
I'd sill rather an XC90 hybrid to be honest
If you're going to sniff a dirt road or rougher, I'd never take the hybrid Volvo, BMW, Audi or similar upscale manufacturer. This looks like it belongs there. Is cost effective, especially with the Federal kiss, and cleans up well as well.
That rotary shift knob is really awful when shifting back and forth to get out of jam. And no low gear?-! I've driven Fords with this, and it's too easy to inadvertently shift into Reverse when you don't want to.
I agree .. I do this all the time. I don’t like it
THANKYOU for ripping into the piano black garbage... I absolutely hate it.
So why doesn't the engine constantly charge the battery? Makes no sense to have the gas power & not use it.
It would be very inefficient in this mode and get far less fuel economy.
I guess if enough people tell us we like ev's, we'll like them.
Is it 4x4?
Just bought one...and I will NEVER take it on a "trail".
I think I blew my speakers out watching this. Your sound levels are all over the place.
What is the mpg of the jeep
with the eco Diesel is all over the board but still really good really depending on conditions. I just had the exhaust recall done finally and have improved 20%
You didn't mention BMW X5 45e
Right, no comparison for the money
Since when did Jeep become a "luxury" brand and why is the only hybrid you can think to compare this against a Porsche? Todd how do you let Paul get away with this stuff how about the Volvo XC90?
Jeep Luxury next you will be calling Kia a performance brand.....
Personally I think Jeep missed the mark & the opportunity by pairing the new electric power plant with a pathetic inline 4 cylinder engine. Had they gone with a V6 or even better, a V8... I'd own one today. Sadly they went with a setup that is BARELY adequate.
Chrysler can’t get one uconnect screen to work properly much less two.
Yep 2 radio replacements and still no Guardian... Oh I heard the 22's are showing Uconnect issues already
@@yarmanriver The first Wagoneer my dealership sold wouldn’t connect to CarPlay wirelessly at time of delivery. After hours of f’ing around it ended up needing a new audio unit. Day one.
@@ghostes Quote "After hours of f’ing around it ended up needing a new audio unit".... so so familur, 4 times to the dealership to rectify the issue is the same manner swearing that the issue was resolved until confessing to me (I knew anyways as I can read and review forums) that this was a known issue and the first radio replacement, two weeks later (last Christmas) was back in for a second radio, 8 months later FCA still say no idea, Guardian tells me doubt it will be fixed as the entire interface code will require rewitting.
@@yarmanriver I hadn’t even sat in one yet so it took extra time to learn the system to confirm a failure. Then the tech opened a case with engineering and followed their lead. It’s a lot of back and forth which takes forever. It’s always more challenging with a new model. A lot of the Uconnect systems are a little glitchy, some more than others. They say they are “working on a patch” but that may be months. Just be patient with your dealer, they get very little in the way of assistance with software issues. Give them perfect surveys and bring them donuts! Seriously goes a long way and will likely save you a fortune.
@@ghostes my Service rep and I have a great relationship he has patience for me and I do for him, and he tells me just hang on so I will...
That car needs a 6 inline engine.
This car is nicer than most luxury SUVs
I want to like these guys but they take 20 minutes to talk about 10 minutes worth of information.
I've never looked into Jeep grand cherokees until recently. I went and looked a few overland models. While on the surface, they look great, I started looking at some of the details and build quality..oh my, it's downright terrible. For $60k+, I'm just shocked that people buy these and are okay with the quality that they're getting.
This is the fundamental problem with a vehicle that starts in the low $40k range but can be configured up to $80k in the 4xE model. No matter how dressed up the trim levels may look, you’re still getting a fairly low-end design. And it absolutely shows in the fit and finish.
This price point makes zero sense for me. Since you’re comparing it to the Porsche - which is nuts, let’s look at the Audi Q5 mild hybrid, it’s way cheaper, way faster, handles like it’s on rails for a crossover, and has a luxury sporty car feel. What say you?
14 hours for 25 miles range? you could walk faster
That's if you plug it in to your standard 110v outlet. A dryer outlet cuts it down to 2 1/2 hours. You're missing the entire point of plug-in hybrids: when you recharge at home overnight, most people can commute M-F all electric. It's the outlet, not the car. Plug an EV into 110v and wait a week.
@@larrysmith6797 No, I'm not "missing the point". I merely made a comment.
Too expensive. Both from an "overpriced/undervalued" perspective ($75k, for this?!), and, from a lower or lower-middle class solution. EVs and gimmicky hybrids like these are too much money, unobtainable for the masses, and that is why they are completely fail-whale.
The new 22 new bodies after a lengthy test drive are just way too full with candy, new body style is ugly and really no longer has the GC look... My 18 is still OK and the issues are finally working out as I said before it is more solid than the 22 and has a tighter turn radius. The buttons are clumsy when testing my wife accidentally enabled the ride selector, wish they stayed with the push button not the switches...
It's funny and sad how much you guys don't understand how plug in hybrids and EVs work with home charging. I know many people who when they got the car, they installed a 240 volt charger in the garage or in the driveway, and use that to charge. And the ones that didn't, they just come home, and plug it in to the 120 outlet, and it charges until they have to leave the next day, and it just gets whatever amount of charge they could get, and the majority of their commute is still all electric.
Just because they don't specifically say something doesn't mean that you can't infer information. Paul says 14 hours at 120/110. If you charge it halfway for 7 hours and have a 10 mile roundtrip to work then you should be able to be all electric. The average commute mileage is roughly 40 miles. Paul gave the most relevant statistic for most people (many who probably assume 25 mile range means quick charges even with a regular outlet). Yes, people can do exactly what you said, but they never said something to refute any of what you said (and 2h20m is stated in the video at 220 - funny you missed that). Baseless attacks are sad.
Not worth a dime over $35,000
Range Anxiety. That is the new world for cars. And then the grid burn outs. Gas always reigns supreme.
The competitors to this are Honda Passport and Toyota 4-Runner. These bozos compare a Jeep to Porsche
Honda Passport and 4Runner don't offer any EV only modes, which is why we mentioned the competitors we did. Thanks for watching.
To be fair to them, the GC is of higher quality
Gotta agree here, there is NO COMPARISON in design & execution! Let alone interior options and the finishes...
Lol 2.0 liter turbo in a vehicle this big. What a joke. Pass.
But but efficiency
According to them, it is the most powerful Grand Cherokee
How did you miss the fact that through the entire video they kept saying how well it moves and how there's always an electric assist?
370hp and 470lb ft of torque is a joke?
I have a 2023 overland 4xe. I trst drove a v6 and v8 first. Wasn't even interested in 4xe. Wofe convinced me to test it. Let me tell you, IT FLYS in hybrid mode. If you accelerate right you can go 0-60 in under 6 sec. It's actually 375hp with 470lbs or torque. The power behind it its much more than the v6 and slightly better than the V8. You have to trst it yourself to believe me.
Pity when u get to camp site you can't turn this car into a generator and run your home or camp site