Space Stalingrad: The Underrated Brutality Behind the Space Battle that HAD to be Won [Kamino]

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    Chapters:
    0:00 Intro
    1:01 The First Assault
    3:43 Once More Unto The Breach
    6:35 Grievous’ Gambit
    9:29 Outro
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  • @CloneScavengerVulpin8389
    @CloneScavengerVulpin8389 7 місяців тому +202

    Respect to the clone who helped anakin keep the fett d.n.a. out of ventresse's hands.

    • @zeusz3237
      @zeusz3237 6 місяців тому

      That moment was just plain chad!

  • @Taliesin-xd7ke
    @Taliesin-xd7ke 7 місяців тому +313

    For me it was the Battle of Umbara, it had everything that's terrifying about war, including treachery!😱

  • @articusramos808
    @articusramos808 7 місяців тому +90

    Hell of a big fight even during classic clone wars maps

  • @arctrooperecho2654
    @arctrooperecho2654 7 місяців тому +20

    RIP 99, you where an inspiration to us all

  • @thalmoragent9344
    @thalmoragent9344 7 місяців тому +188

    I've always wanted the Clone Wars to go deeper into these battles. Like sure if they don't want to show random clone units, fine, show us cases of Anakin and the 501st just going out to a planet, and spending some time there before moving on to the next.
    Bad Batch really could've revolved around the Republic/Imperial Era of warfare. Should've called it "Rise of the Empire" or something, and show the Reconquest of the Outer-Rim, the "Second Round" of the Clone Wars after the Empire was formed, albeit we don't get Jedi, perhaps the occasional Inquisitor showing up later on to lead some of the troops where Jedi are involved.

    • @DarthDread-oh2ne
      @DarthDread-oh2ne 7 місяців тому +15

      If they don't want to show random clone units, then, don't name your show "clone wars".

    • @klaykid117
      @klaykid117 7 місяців тому +1

      Usually that kind of stuff is reserved only as throw away lines in books

    • @Enigma75614
      @Enigma75614 7 місяців тому +2

      Bad Batch should have just been an anthology series.

    • @frostedhams
      @frostedhams 7 місяців тому +4

      @@DarthDread-oh2neWhat would you have them name it? The clone wars show is the best piece of starwars apart from the first 6 movies. Hell some of the arcs in TCW are better than most the movies.

    • @imachickennugget3966
      @imachickennugget3966 7 місяців тому

      @@frostedhams orgasm

  • @arthurbrax6561
    @arthurbrax6561 7 місяців тому +36

    Good question is why in the Second Battle of Geonosis the Republic still didn't use fighters to defend the LAAT or get air supremacy before the landing started.

    • @robertagu5533
      @robertagu5533 6 місяців тому +9

      That's basically what they did. Which is WHY we barely see ANY CIS air power in that battle. An not hardly at all helping their apparently under ridiculous attack Droid forces on the main field. They just didn't have it

  • @hunterkiller1440
    @hunterkiller1440 7 місяців тому +15

    I love Clone Pilot designs. It looks amazing.

  • @mrmacura3421
    @mrmacura3421 7 місяців тому +30

    What does not make sense to me is why the Republic did not activate Kamino's planetary shield after all Starfighters that were to join the battle had left. I suppose it had one given how important Kamino was for the Republic and those pieces of debris could have done serious damage had they fallen on any of the Kaminoan cities.

  • @TaraCicora
    @TaraCicora 7 місяців тому +25

    Just gonna say, I loved this comic! And I enjoyed this episode in TCW.

  • @fatalord1353
    @fatalord1353 7 місяців тому +10

    Best Star Wars lore channel fr

  • @lerneanlion
    @lerneanlion 7 місяців тому +55

    Is it just me or Kamino suddenly sounded as important as Constantinople in our world?

    • @TbV-st8ef
      @TbV-st8ef 5 місяців тому +1

      It's Istanbul not Constantinople

    • @lerneanlion
      @lerneanlion 5 місяців тому +1

      @@TbV-st8ef I know that. I was referring to how important such a city was when it comes to international politics, economy and geopolitics, which was before Turkey was proclaimed and before Constantinople became Istanbul.

    • @TbV-st8ef
      @TbV-st8ef 5 місяців тому

      @@lerneanlion alr

  • @IBW_3000
    @IBW_3000 7 місяців тому +8

    F for 99. Those bombs halted an infantry advance.

  • @watercannonscollaboration2281
    @watercannonscollaboration2281 7 місяців тому +13

    At the end of the day, Palpatine knew this would’ve been a republic victory

    • @tk-6967
      @tk-6967 7 місяців тому +4

      Yeah the whole point was to bolster Kamino's defences with the Kamino Guard (grey striped clones)

  • @weevil9619
    @weevil9619 7 місяців тому +5

    So glad we can still have comics and books to be able to learn about our favorite sci-fi stories.

  • @EzekielDeLaCroix
    @EzekielDeLaCroix 7 місяців тому +20

    Since the war was orchestrated, Imagine if both Palpatine and Dooku received news of Separatist victory. They would be shitting their pants.

    • @conallgarrison9095
      @conallgarrison9095 5 місяців тому

      i agree

    • @DavidVillaTorre
      @DavidVillaTorre 5 місяців тому

      I would shit my pants too if my scapegoat that I severely crippled to make sure it didn't win suddenly won the most important battle to turn around the war

  • @luwucian4497
    @luwucian4497 7 місяців тому +11

    i love how in this comic the jedi starfighters design change to a acclamators for no reason like 2 times hahaha

  • @danese1636
    @danese1636 7 місяців тому +18

    It's fitting: The only ones capable of defeating Kamino were the ones that were born and raised there.

  • @schurerest7661
    @schurerest7661 7 місяців тому +6

    All the battles space or land love these videos about clone wars battles!

  • @robertagu5533
    @robertagu5533 7 місяців тому +8

    Apparently Grevious read about the Legend of The Odyssey.. an then treated Kamino like it was Troy. Too bad the Jedi an GAR apparently didn't trust "Greeks" in this one.

    • @youngmonkey2504
      @youngmonkey2504 6 місяців тому

      Starwars is from a different, distant galaxy

  • @indianajones4321
    @indianajones4321 7 місяців тому +31

    Big respect to the clone pilots

    • @tk-6967
      @tk-6967 7 місяців тому

      Why? Clone pilots are crap.

  • @Gufupandi09th13
    @Gufupandi09th13 7 місяців тому +5

    Mygeeto is the true Stalingrad

  • @brokenbridge6316
    @brokenbridge6316 7 місяців тому +4

    Great video. I wonder what naval battle you'll cover next.

  • @StonewallTitlow
    @StonewallTitlow 7 місяців тому +10

    Putting Passel Argente in charge of a fleet is like putting a low ranked corporal in charge of an army.

  • @MandoSki464
    @MandoSki464 5 місяців тому

    Just another story that deepens my love for the clones. Been into 40k much heavier over the past couple of years because of Disney but was just thinking about it earlier today and instantly told myself that regardless we still have Star Wars legends which as a mandalorian and clone fan will always mean Star Wars is my main universe. Remember watching attack of the clones in 2002 which had my young self jumping head first into Star Wars and the clones cemented that. Though can’t lie, I was definitely rooting for Jango in his duel/fight with Obi-wan in our first trip to Kamino. Thank you my friend for keeping this spirit alive and going!

  • @zexalbrony4799
    @zexalbrony4799 7 місяців тому +10

    Wait you did a ground battle analysis of the Second Battle of Kamino? When? I don't remember that video and I love the second Battle of Kamino. With the exception of the season 5 premiere, which wasn't even supposed to be the Darth Maul episode as that was meant to be episode 13 which is fixed on the DVDs but the higher-ups did it anyways because of how season 4 ended, the two-parter season 3 premier was the best Clone Wars season opening ever.
    Also, if you're looking for more battles to discuss, there are plenty of blink-and-you-miss-them ones from the montages in Chapter 22 of the 2003 Clone Wars Micro-series, or there are some great battles from the Outer Rim Sieges you've yet to discuss like the Battle of New Plympto or the Battle of Murkhana, there's also the Battles of Mon Cala that took place during the Clone Wars, or the Battle of Dathomir where it was Nightsisters vs Grievous, and as much as I love the Clone Wars there are other battles from other eras that could be fun to look at too, like the Battle of Hoth or when the Empire invaded Kashyyyk in 19 BBY shortly after the Clone Wars to get those 8 Jedi that had teamed up with the Wookies. There are a lot of great battles to choose from, a lot from the Clone Wars, but some from other eras too.

  • @eddieram435
    @eddieram435 7 місяців тому +459

    This is a side of the Clone Wars we should had seen. If Disney had tapped into this universe and steer away from Filoni'a childish approach, this conflict would had been more dark.

    • @merafirewing6591
      @merafirewing6591 7 місяців тому +46

      Well we got what we got, and we know Disney wouldn't commit.

    • @teleportedbreadfor3days
      @teleportedbreadfor3days 7 місяців тому +39

      Disney doesn’t know how to do anything Star Wars and Filoni has no idea what he’s doing, even if I don’t agree that Filoni’s approach is ‘childish’.

    • @merafirewing6591
      @merafirewing6591 7 місяців тому +9

      @@teleportedbreadfor3days from what I was told he only done ten episodes of the Clone Wars.

    • @teleportedbreadfor3days
      @teleportedbreadfor3days 7 місяців тому +15

      @@merafirewing6591 I don’t think that’s true. All I know is that both he and George Lucas worked on TCW together, but the idea that Filoni only did ten episodes doesn’t feel right to me.

    • @liamthompson8563
      @liamthompson8563 7 місяців тому +36

      Filoni understands Star Wars but for some reason, he just can't make a fully adult SW show like Andor.

  • @goldeagle6431
    @goldeagle6431 7 місяців тому +6

    The Senate would have won Stalingrad SINGLE-HANDEDLY.

  • @marshalllatta2073
    @marshalllatta2073 7 місяців тому +3

    I love your channel it's so cool l will never stop watching it

  • @tk-6967
    @tk-6967 7 місяців тому +5

    I don't think the CIS had the ability to win the 2nd battle. Grievous' flagship sat back the entire time while the Munificents just gave the republic a huge advantage.

  • @OuterRimPride
    @OuterRimPride 7 місяців тому +1

    “Lol.” -Count Dooku
    “lmao.” -Darth Sidious

  • @Aaronian99
    @Aaronian99 7 місяців тому

    Clone Wars Mimban wouldve been epic to see, wish we had more footage of it

  • @emmanuelmedinaMatthew92
    @emmanuelmedinaMatthew92 7 місяців тому +2

    Can you look it the battle of Mandalorian in the 7 seasons of Star Wars of the clones. that is a good battle what do you says Generation Tech. ; )

  • @mitchcoleman1238
    @mitchcoleman1238 7 місяців тому +2

    I expected you to cover the clone rebellion that took place in the original Battlefront 2, but I keep forgetting that’s not canon!

    • @MyCaio1997
      @MyCaio1997 7 місяців тому +2

      He already did though...

  • @Falkriim
    @Falkriim 7 місяців тому

    Great video

  • @botondkovacs6195
    @botondkovacs6195 6 місяців тому +1

    Must have been a pretty stressful chessparty for Sidious.

  • @amarured
    @amarured 7 місяців тому

    The thumbnail tho 💔😭🔥🔥

  • @1989gibbi
    @1989gibbi 6 місяців тому

    Yularen was not the one who noted that grievous was using his smaller ships to protect his command ship. It was Shaak Ti

  • @choongweijie5851
    @choongweijie5851 7 місяців тому +1

    Please talk about the D1 aerial battle droid in your next video please.

  • @trevordurkin1940
    @trevordurkin1940 7 місяців тому +1

    Judging by the title before watching, sounds more like the Battle of Britain to me

  • @shanenolan5625
    @shanenolan5625 7 місяців тому +1

    Wasn't tarkin present at one battle of kimono. ( naval) ?

  • @michaelandreipalon359
    @michaelandreipalon359 7 місяців тому +7

    Lessons to be learned:
    - When in doubt as a Sepper, never play the peacemongering hero during the start of a manipulative war.
    - Hyperspace rings deserve to be rendered obsolete; the future existence of craft succeeding the Jedi Aethersprites, like the A-Wings and TIE Predators, prove that point.
    - If one retcons the "first battle" away from the continuity and replaced it with a different take on the battle involving squid transport droids and some decrepit clone martyr, then you're a bastard.

    • @thalmoragent9344
      @thalmoragent9344 7 місяців тому

      Yeah, makes sense.
      Always slays me when I hear "we are keepers of the peace, not soldiers", and I'm like... bro, you're a GENERAL in the Grand ARMY of the Republic. Who are you fooling? 😅
      As for 99, he was a cool idea to see decrepit Clones and how they're treated, I think it still worked out well for representing that.

    • @merafirewing6591
      @merafirewing6591 7 місяців тому

      ​@@thalmoragent9344 I call it a win win.

  • @spockamania
    @spockamania 5 місяців тому

    Makes me wonder; what was Sideous' plan if any of the invasions of Kamino suceeded? I have to imagine destroying clone production would have been real bad for his plan

  • @talonnewton5486
    @talonnewton5486 7 місяців тому +1

    Who does a lot of the renders you use in your thumbnails?

  • @nathanweast4397
    @nathanweast4397 7 місяців тому +1

    Wasn't this battle also won due to the new deployment of BARC speeders?

  • @ReiMari12
    @ReiMari12 6 місяців тому

    There are so many moments where this war could have gone wildly f script. Palps was insanely lucky.

  • @natz__
    @natz__ 7 місяців тому +1

    Wait the guy who built a junk Jedi temple was a fighter pilot lol

  • @banner1390
    @banner1390 7 місяців тому

    Clone Armor mk1 is the coolest!

  • @Shadowpack95
    @Shadowpack95 7 місяців тому +2

    why did Sideous want the Mon Cala officer dead?

  • @hazat8123
    @hazat8123 7 місяців тому

    Palpatine: execute order 227 no step back

  • @jakewisher6534
    @jakewisher6534 7 місяців тому +1

    Long time viewer, I love your work!! I think your channel could really pop off on this side of UA-cam if you shortened the titles to the videos cause this content is too good for the views you have been getting.

  • @deltaboss1190
    @deltaboss1190 7 місяців тому

    Kamino - Stalingrad
    Umbara - Vietnam

  • @DarthVages
    @DarthVages 7 місяців тому +1

    👍

  • @macwade2755
    @macwade2755 6 місяців тому

    This is Canon for me!

  • @ourheroartyom2900
    @ourheroartyom2900 7 місяців тому

    The separatist mon calamari must have been admiral ackbars father

  • @joshuadamroth5303
    @joshuadamroth5303 7 місяців тому

  • @noname-bu1ux
    @noname-bu1ux 7 місяців тому

    Ok, but who's space Stalin? Princess leia? Luthen? Saw Guerrara? Cant be count dooku, cause hes religious.

  • @davidordaz5251
    @davidordaz5251 7 місяців тому

    And at the end of the war was all for nothing

    • @merafirewing6591
      @merafirewing6591 7 місяців тому

      Weren't the Kamino cities completely abandoned by the time the Clone Rebellion happened and ended?

  • @Private.Willie.Stroker
    @Private.Willie.Stroker 7 місяців тому +1

    tbh clone pilots and ships where kina useless, since most cis/droid ones dint need pilots..
    if you think about it any droid fighter could just kamikaze into bridges of capital ships like the rebel did in ep6, they even had those small boarding ships that where kinda shaped like a drill bit, add a pod racer engine on it and it could just fly trough a shielded ship...

  • @Courier6FNV
    @Courier6FNV 6 місяців тому

    This is my man problem with star wars, they don’t really do wars well in most media aside from things like this.

  • @arielfeuerstein8635
    @arielfeuerstein8635 5 місяців тому

    1.25x speed ✅

  • @Vizsla-wy3ql
    @Vizsla-wy3ql 7 місяців тому +3

    The Clone Wars Era is basally if the Weimar Republic of Germany started, fought, and won WWII, and was then overthrown by the Fascist Party.

    • @tk-6967
      @tk-6967 7 місяців тому +1

      Not really. The Empire wasn't fascist. Also the Senate had a way lower approval rate than the Chancellor.

    • @CT-1311
      @CT-1311 7 місяців тому

      Pretty much it makes sense

    • @jonnyv9049
      @jonnyv9049 7 місяців тому

      Its a very different situation politically because the republic isnt like a nation in this World but more like a huge federation, like EU or so, it has won the war against the Seperatists and the Trade Federation behind it, at least more or less, but it was still very unstable so the ruling class need to have a more restrictive government, the fascist dictatorship the empire was, to regain order in the galaxis

  • @ice_siberia1546
    @ice_siberia1546 3 місяці тому

    Star wars helldivers is a game I really really need and I'll leave this comment everywhere so someone sees it

  • @Tootswilligers
    @Tootswilligers 7 місяців тому +3

    Considering its a fairy tale, it doesn't matter lol..

    • @tk-6967
      @tk-6967 7 місяців тому +5

      Then why are you even here if you don't even care?!

  • @sarson25
    @sarson25 7 місяців тому

    This stream was special .