The First Battles to TRULY Ignite the Rebellion: Origins Explained

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  • @TetsuShima
    @TetsuShima 8 місяців тому +207

    Jedi Fallen Order: A game in which you try to survive the Empire
    The Force Unleashed: A game in which the Empire tries to survive you

    • @jayburn00
      @jayburn00 8 місяців тому +14

      Reminds me of the robot chicken ads for the game..

    • @goingblargh
      @goingblargh 8 місяців тому +27

      _”Against all the evil the Sith can conjure, all the wickedness the Empire can produce, we will send unto them only you. Rip and Tear until it is done.”_

    • @michaelandreipalon359
      @michaelandreipalon359 8 місяців тому +4

      I still prefer the Dark Forces Saga for making your player characters become the Star Wars Legends equivalents of infamous magical girl Homura Akemi. Force Speed and good old guns and grenades are no joke.

    • @jayburn00
      @jayburn00 8 місяців тому +7

      @@michaelandreipalon359 ah, Kyle Katarn. Good times...

    • @michaelandreipalon359
      @michaelandreipalon359 8 місяців тому +3

      @@jayburn00 Well, there's also any iteration of Jaden Korr for Jedi Academy, plus Mara Jade in the Mysteries of the Sith expansion for the first Jedi Knight.

  • @marshalllatta2073
    @marshalllatta2073 8 місяців тому +56

    The rescue of rahm kota and the attack on kamino are two of My favorite battles in all of star wars the beginning of the rebellion

  • @coreyriegle1328
    @coreyriegle1328 8 місяців тому +37

    Bro, THIS is the kind of content live for. Not specifically this topic, but how you do what you do. This is fantastic.
    Long Live Legends

  • @neofulcrum5013
    @neofulcrum5013 8 місяців тому +43

    What’s cool about the galactic civil war, is that it shows how without much of Jedi, the galaxy had to rise up to save itself against the darkness.

  • @Bread-nx9fo
    @Bread-nx9fo 8 місяців тому +51

    The Battle of Mon Cala really sealed the deal for the Rebellion, they got a veteran commander and fleet out of it.

    • @princeofpokemon2934
      @princeofpokemon2934 7 місяців тому +5

      And the best part? Those ships are one of the best ever built in the Galaxy even if they were converted civilian buildings. And the shield generators that are extremely powerful since they have the ability to transfer power to Shields and even has Shield layers, meaning that there are multiple Shield generators that produce different layers of shields to provide Extra Protection. You gotta hand it to the fish people, they made some of the best Capital ships ever produced

  • @TetsuShima
    @TetsuShima 8 місяців тому +30

    I love how Rahm Kota, unlike other Jedi mentors of the protagonist, is not someone stoic and the voice of reason, but a broken and bitter guy who, like his disciple, suffers from enormous emotional instability. That said, poor Starkiller sure hated the fact that the blind Jedi who would accompany him wouldn't be a wise master like Kreia or a love-needy bombshell like Visas Marr, but a cranky drunk like Kohta.😅

    • @Lawrence_Talbot
      @Lawrence_Talbot 8 місяців тому +3

      Well tbf Kota was not like that until Starkiller blinded him. Prior to this, he was very much a stoic, reasonable, level headed yet brave Jedi. And the reason he became even more bitter is that the man who blinded him, Starkiller, then dragged him around the galaxy as a semi-hostage forcing him to teach him.
      I agree tho that it’s a nice change than the usual patient ever doting master, and adds a deeper level of both character development as well exploring the concept of redemption (both for Starkiller and Kota himself)

  • @TheWarmachine375
    @TheWarmachine375 8 місяців тому +32

    General Tagge: "And until this battle station is fully operational, we are vulnerable! The Rebel Alliance is too well equipped! They're more dangerous than you realize."
    Admiral Motti: "Dangerous to your Starfleet, Commander, not to this battle station."

    • @BennyLlama39
      @BennyLlama39 8 місяців тому +7

      Moments later... "Don't be too proud of this technological terror you've constructed."

  • @KingMordred
    @KingMordred 8 місяців тому +27

    21:40
    Juno Eclipse is truly one of the most underrated Star Wars pin-up girls of all time, being on the same level as Mara Jade, Bastila Shan, Darth Talon, Visas Marr and Platt Okefee. I bet captured Rebels wished Juno to be the imperial in charge of their "interrogation" 😏

    • @merafirewing6591
      @merafirewing6591 8 місяців тому +4

      Something about that black imperial form fitting uniform on a beautiful lady like her really does activate some neurons.

    • @Lawrence_Talbot
      @Lawrence_Talbot 8 місяців тому +4

      You can actually buy Star Wars WW2 style pinup posters of the “bombshell girls of Star Wars” with Juno on some of them. They are rather well done

  • @reginaldshort8486
    @reginaldshort8486 8 місяців тому +7

    Books like The Hutts Gambit, Rebel Dream and The Force Unleashed 1&2 were good examples on how to show the building blocks of the Rebel Alliance

  • @raijyn2452
    @raijyn2452 8 місяців тому +35

    As far as I'm concerned, these Legends battles are the true start of the Rebellion

    • @emzonik8851
      @emzonik8851 4 місяці тому +3

      As far as I'm concerned, Legends as a whole is the primary star wars canon.

  • @jamiewalsh3349
    @jamiewalsh3349 8 місяців тому +26

    It's a bummer we never got The Force Unleashed 3 to tell the story how Vader escaped Rebel custody

    • @starkilr101
      @starkilr101 7 місяців тому +1

      I agree. But, it is Vader. If he’s caught, we all know he can get out at anytime he wants.

    • @obitwokenobi9808
      @obitwokenobi9808 6 місяців тому

      Actually, TFU 3 was actually gonna be a story about Starkiller and Vader teaming up one last time to stop one of Palpatine's plans.

  • @inductivegrunt94
    @inductivegrunt94 8 місяців тому +6

    Both of the Force Unleashed games are just so much fun for some casual destructive fun with the force as you make the Empire run in fear of you.
    And the battles there, especially the Battle of Kamino, were amazing. The Battle of Kamino was so much fun, fighting alongside the Rebels, facing against Vader, and unleashing absolute hell on anyone that got in your way. Such an amazing battle.

  • @TetsuShima
    @TetsuShima 8 місяців тому +19

    Bevel Lemelisk is quite a fascinating character, as he was later tried by the New Republic and sentenced to death for building the Death Star and other deadly superweapons. His ending makes me wish Star Wars has its own "Nuremberg" miniseries. He should have also been part of the new canon, a he might have helped Krennic and Jyn's father build the Death Star. Lemelisk perfectly works as someone who creates weapons of mass destruction, not out of sadism or guilt, but out of his simple desire to improve science.

    • @merafirewing6591
      @merafirewing6591 8 місяців тому +5

      It be very interesting, because we get three different views from multiple scientists who are a part of the Death Star project.

    • @Lawrence_Talbot
      @Lawrence_Talbot 8 місяців тому

      Nuremberg was more or less a sham that brought no real justice to the world. I guess putting one scientist on trial while the rest of the empire walks away free would be equivalent

  • @TetsuShima
    @TetsuShima 8 місяців тому +151

    It's truly a crime the treatment Ackbar got in the sequels, being killed off-screen just to give his spot to that Winter 2.0....I mean...Holdo. At least Legends gave Ackbar a far better conclusion, in which he dies of old age while fighting the Yuuzhan Vong

    • @teleportedbreadfor3days
      @teleportedbreadfor3days 8 місяців тому +34

      Admiral Ackbar is an example of a character who was only killed off because he was important, deep, or well written in a sense or another.
      During the Disney Trilogy, he was a brilliant tactician existing before suits, directors and writers who knew nothing or nothing solid about militaristic combat.

    • @horrorfan1455
      @horrorfan1455 8 місяців тому +12

      I agree I despise Disney for killing him

    • @Lawrence_Talbot
      @Lawrence_Talbot 8 місяців тому +19

      Ironic Disney wanted to “promote more diversity” by greatly diminishing a lot of the alien roles and giving their part to humans, albeit female ones. Disney unwittingly made the Empire proud

    • @teleportedbreadfor3days
      @teleportedbreadfor3days 8 місяців тому +4

      @@Lawrence_Talbot I don’t know how strong the argument for the inclusion of alien characters actually is. But their unwillingness to use them does scream different volumes for different things.
      Still, what Disney is doing feels more exploitive than anything.

    • @dekaw9138
      @dekaw9138 8 місяців тому

      Not every death is heroic in war

  • @randycheow4268
    @randycheow4268 8 місяців тому +11

    “Rebellions are built on hope”

  • @ajra6143
    @ajra6143 8 місяців тому +8

    Y'know, if Disney had just left the EU as it was and just continued to build off it and integrating stuff like Mando and Andor to fit into it, at least 1/3rd of the headaches they've gotten over the years probably wouldn't exist. And if they'd stuck to George's vision for 7-9, if people hated it, most of it likely would've been aimed at him again.

    • @merafirewing6591
      @merafirewing6591 8 місяців тому +4

      Yeah, and put Dave Filoni on a tight leash and tell him that he isn't allowed to break the lore.

  • @robertagu5533
    @robertagu5533 8 місяців тому +7

    One of my favorite story arcs to my favorite character. This will always be the Rebellion origns to me. It fills so many plot holes nicely otherwise left in as is like this.
    Ironic basically ALL Galens were inclined to be good... kick in Imperial Ass, kick Sith ass, basically join the Rebels and even with barely any memory of her.. follow... the Force... to rescue an resume his relationship with Juno..
    Least that was about every successful Starkiller.

    • @Lawrence_Talbot
      @Lawrence_Talbot 8 місяців тому +1

      It helps George Lucas had a massive hand in the story and personally oversaw the development of the game. It was very much his way of the highway when it came to making it

  • @marcomcdowell8861
    @marcomcdowell8861 8 місяців тому +6

    Legends Luke Skywalker: Hold my beer. Canon Luke Skywalker: What's a beer?

  • @zexalbrony4799
    @zexalbrony4799 8 місяців тому +2

    As much as I love the Clone Wars, it's the best era ever from Star Wars, it's nice to finally be getting videos on the Battles of the Galactic Civil War.

  • @AncestorEmpire1
    @AncestorEmpire1 8 місяців тому +18

    The expanded universe had “new” Star Wars content.
    But Bob and Kathleen won’t let us have nice things.

    • @Lawrence_Talbot
      @Lawrence_Talbot 8 місяців тому +3

      It also had a lot of new games that got unceremoniously scrapped. Rip 1313

    • @tunebeat3809
      @tunebeat3809 8 місяців тому

      Doesn't help they enjoy being petty and spiteful to their actual customers (and might have ties with corrupt politicians and their allies).

  • @OrchidAndromeda
    @OrchidAndromeda 4 місяці тому

    This is what I was looking for in a Star Wars channel. The information that you impart carries me into the Star Wars universe where I belong. Thank you so much

  • @spiffygonzales5160
    @spiffygonzales5160 8 місяців тому +5

    Apparently Force Unleashed 3 was supposed to have Boba Fett break Vader out, and Vader was supposed to finally kill Star Killer.

  • @AlexD889
    @AlexD889 8 місяців тому +2

    You guys are always clutch with these videos. The force is strong with you.

  • @ColonelStan
    @ColonelStan 6 місяців тому +2

    In my head canon, the "clone" in the Force Unleashed II *is* Galen Marek. He had spat in the face of death before when Vader stabbed him in the back, and Vader brought Starkiller back to life. It isn't too far-fetched to think that after the battle in the Death Star, Vader took Starkiller's body to Kamino, revived Marek, cloned him, and lied and manipulated Marek into thinking he was a clone, so that Vader could continue to tighten his hold on Marek.
    Now, in the alternate ending of the Force Unleashed II, I believe that evil clone was the only perfected clone of Galen Marek.

    • @theazurefire91
      @theazurefire91 4 місяці тому +1

      Same. My addition to that is it was also the beginning of the Emperor experimenting with cloning Force users, ultimately leading to his return in a clone body in Dark Empire. And Galen wouldn't be the only test subject. This could be where Joruus C'baoth was born. You might have to fight a clone of a deceased Jedi Master...Mace Windu maybe?

    • @ColonelStan
      @ColonelStan 4 місяці тому

      @@theazurefire91, yes! Perfect.

  • @streetsoldierhood9796
    @streetsoldierhood9796 8 місяців тому +2

    Disney will never come up with anything this good for Star Wars. Great video, looking forward to the rest of the series!

  • @matthewjay660
    @matthewjay660 8 місяців тому +2

    The Rescue of Ackbar was a historical "X-Wing" 90's game mission. You earn a patch for completing this historic mission.

  • @normanbarud
    @normanbarud 8 місяців тому +2

    TFU was truly legendary

  • @quantemwensday
    @quantemwensday 8 місяців тому +7

    disney squandered a lot of good potential but instead made mostly trash

  • @nuggetdoozy7831
    @nuggetdoozy7831 8 місяців тому

    Thank you so much for your hard work day in and day out. I wish I could express my gratitude in a total non “that guy was… off” type of way. Haha
    Y’all literally cover the parts of Star Wars I’m most obsessed with! The every little detail, is finely praised 😊

  • @supremeleadergnkdroid3202
    @supremeleadergnkdroid3202 8 місяців тому +2

    This probably the earliest I’ve seen a video

  • @Idkidkidk716
    @Idkidkidk716 8 місяців тому

    I always love the background art you guys include in your videos.

  • @joshk96
    @joshk96 8 місяців тому

    Excellent job, It's good for people to hear more about the Rebellion than the 4 movies It's in. Can't wait for whats next

  • @RayHardman7567
    @RayHardman7567 8 місяців тому

    Love you added the force unleashed to legends canon.

  • @masteroftheassassins
    @masteroftheassassins 8 місяців тому +6

    To me, Galen Marek will always be a founder of the Rebellion and his family crest is the true symbol of the Rebellion

  • @lerneanlion
    @lerneanlion 8 місяців тому +2

    Between the Assault on Kamino and the Battle of Scarif, which one is greater as the Rebels' first major victory?

  • @akechiv1855
    @akechiv1855 8 місяців тому +1

    Shoutout to Force Unleashed being some of the most based games giving a nice story while being power fantasy.

  • @joshuajwars4271
    @joshuajwars4271 7 місяців тому +1

    0 BBY became War of Scarif & War of Yavin at the same time after Assault on Kami no Wars of Atoll on & Lothal as a result Rebels would add new victories in exchange for losses later.

  • @jackmasterpunk8350
    @jackmasterpunk8350 8 місяців тому +1

    Imagine if Akbar had ejected all the escape pods as well as disabling the shields then Tarkin would have been killed and the empire's history would have been rewritten

  • @greatazuredragon
    @greatazuredragon 8 місяців тому

    Great episode, thanks for the update.

  • @ninjamasterbuilder8675
    @ninjamasterbuilder8675 8 місяців тому +1

    The baby alliance may not be as strong as its eventual self by Endor however it still had strength

  • @ronjon7942
    @ronjon7942 2 місяці тому

    Wow, Legends is awesome. I had gotten fragments of the eventual capture of Vader, but never a start-to-finish synopsis like this one. This is from The Force Unleashed, a novel? Game? Both?

  • @nathanoutdoors7981
    @nathanoutdoors7981 8 місяців тому +1

    Yo, I can’t wait to see the next video

  • @michaelandreipalon359
    @michaelandreipalon359 8 місяців тому

    General rule of thumb: one has to be an avid multi-genre video gamer so to know and also experience these initial battles... though one may complain that a bunch of them are PC exclusives for good reason.
    Still am confused on how Ackbar got rescued though (the X-Wing video game and the Darksaber novel have a radically different sequence of events compared to Empire at War's Rebel campaign), and I still think TFU II is now non-canon apocrypha by way of being an incomplete first half sequel to an already fine standalone title.

  • @samuraitabernac3050
    @samuraitabernac3050 8 місяців тому +2

    Do videos on the 1970s marvel comics

  • @otamanvasyl9949
    @otamanvasyl9949 2 місяці тому

    I don't know when, but at some point separation in "Canon" and "Legends" began to associate with "Ubermensch" and "Untermensch". I think it's because of "Legends" label on all old EU materials. It made me think about golden stars that were put on the Jews.

  • @isaackim7675
    @isaackim7675 8 місяців тому

    Imagine if they brought in a droid similar to Proxy acting as an Imperial Assassin in Cannon?

  • @slicerneons3300
    @slicerneons3300 8 місяців тому

    We really need a Fighter game(DoA, Tekken, MK, Street Fighter) where we can have Starkiller and Cal Cestis Face off. That would be a great game.
    Like the Episode 3 game's dueling mode but with more characters.

  • @starkilr101
    @starkilr101 7 місяців тому +1

    As far as I’m concerned, the Force Unleashed is still canon. As the saying goes, “there’s always a truth in legends.”

    • @theazurefire91
      @theazurefire91 4 місяці тому +1

      I mean it is canon to Legends. I know Disney wants to be the "canon" timeline, but I found it far healthier to think of both Disney and Legends as two separate and equally possible timelines.

  • @midedman123able
    @midedman123able 8 місяців тому +1

    Are you going to cover the events after return of the jedi?

  • @AFlyingEwok
    @AFlyingEwok 8 місяців тому

    You forgot to mention the stalwart commander of the Empire's Kamino garrison and how the very existance of his men depressed him.

  • @brokenbridge6316
    @brokenbridge6316 8 місяців тому

    Star Wars: Legends is awesome. Please make more video's.

  • @ThatDragonGuy
    @ThatDragonGuy 7 місяців тому

    Would've been nice if there was a Legends tag on this video xD.

  • @lillifeless197
    @lillifeless197 8 місяців тому

    I need to know why Tarkin felt the need to go shirt-off shorty on someone in that comic frame @ 9:30
    he way too old to be getting gangsta like that 😂😂

  • @BA13REDYoutuber
    @BA13REDYoutuber 7 місяців тому +1

    At the beginning of the video you say "Like with any good story, we have to start at the very beginning", but funny enough, Star Wars started with the very middle of the story, and it's arguably one of the best stories.
    This isn't anything against you or the video. I just find the expression / attitude that we have to start at the beginning pretty ironic. I will agree though that Star Wars is an outlier when looking at a list of all the good stories out there.

  • @jayburn00
    @jayburn00 8 місяців тому

    I think the second force unleashed took place after a new hope, maybe a bit before empire strikes back.

  • @PutYourQuarterUpGaming
    @PutYourQuarterUpGaming 8 місяців тому

    I get why canon is way it is, even before the dark times, before the empire(Disney) as have fit media of film, but legends? Legends is my personal lore and always will be.

  • @Lawrence_Talbot
    @Lawrence_Talbot 8 місяців тому +4

    Nice to see so much love for Legends in the comments and even outright dismissal of Disney “canon” for a change. These are the real Star Wars fans

    • @grayflaneur4854
      @grayflaneur4854 7 місяців тому

      Thanks for letting us know how you feel, Larry..

  • @LTMaverick27894
    @LTMaverick27894 8 місяців тому +1

    The more GCW lore, the better!

  • @nathanielreik6617
    @nathanielreik6617 5 місяців тому

    I want to know how Vader got away from the Rebels after Force Unleashed 2.

  • @alexanderkane7586
    @alexanderkane7586 8 місяців тому

    Me too

  • @Unammedacc
    @Unammedacc 5 місяців тому

    Hum not sure the Force Unleashed is still canon even in the Legend continuity. It poses way too many problems to other events in the continuity.

  • @johncoffy
    @johncoffy 3 місяці тому

    Though I'm sure that I'll get wrathful curses from "Darth Chancellor" supporters / fans because.....in short - Sidious sux....he might've been "Living Dark side nexus, strongest sith lord, etc" in history & yet his rule (and his lifespan) lasted next to nothing compared to Ragnos 100 years or Vitiate going hardcore for 1300 years, also fact that Ragnos died natural death places him above poor Palpatine who was forced to hug reactor at free-falling speed. Vitiate / Valkorion could've create Galactic Empire if not for the similar loose screws as most of Sith or Darksiders usually have & I have to bring up his "improved / upgraded" perspective on force & finally finishing kick from behind to ballz of Sidious - Essence Transfer, near perfect string of epic failure(s) if compared to Vitiate / Valkorion comfortably "sitting" in multiple "hosts" at once.
    N.B....to top it off - he (Vitiate) made Lord Scourge immortal, like properly immortal - no essence transfer, tho it's been said that it hurts like double drop kick to ballz...
    OK, enough x]

    • @ronjon7942
      @ronjon7942 2 місяці тому

      Sounds right to me!

    • @johncoffy
      @johncoffy 2 місяці тому

      @@ronjon7942 I'm happy that someone shares similar perspective - also Rule Of Two S-Lords mostly killed their superiors via some "underhanded" method - like Plagues with collapse of cortosis mine on his "sole engineering boss" or take Sidious himself - "Strongest etc." Sith Lord had to wait for his master to get drunk & sleepy to electrocute "that annoying fool", tho 20 years without sleep would mess anyone up regardless of degree of force sensitivity. Even Kylo Ren (Sir Blaster Bolt Force Freezer) waited for Snoke to get high from his own gloating to puncture his gut - slim chance that it was caused by Sidious to get things moving towards his date on Exegol.
      N.B. ....hmmmm....consider Vaylin (who don't know - Valkorion's daughter), Sith Emperor was worried enough of her raw, unrefined force power & potential that he deemed necessary to put her through conditioning just to keep her in check.
      I'll skip Bedlum Spirits since none is remotely close to them in any way - Luke, Anakin (roasted you are not anymore), Abaloth (~x12 times stronger than EU Luke, stated by himself).
      Blasted binaries....way longer than I intended....... x]

  • @Aegis030
    @Aegis030 8 місяців тому

    The difference between the Lucas Universe and the Disney Universe.
    Like The MCU, the Disney Universe should be an alternate timeline from the original.

    • @theazurefire91
      @theazurefire91 4 місяці тому

      I see it as three possible timelines. You have the Lucas films as your base, then you can either add on the Legends lore or Disney lore depending on your preference. Or you can add on neither.

  • @grayflaneur4854
    @grayflaneur4854 7 місяців тому

    Echo chamber..

  • @Scaristheman
    @Scaristheman 2 місяці тому

    Who thinks legends is the true star wars?

  • @akumaking1
    @akumaking1 8 місяців тому +8

    Legends > Disney Soy Wars

  • @DarthVages
    @DarthVages 8 місяців тому

    👍

  • @cerealsgames3118
    @cerealsgames3118 8 місяців тому

    Algorithm comment 🤝

  • @lostlandmarks8305
    @lostlandmarks8305 8 місяців тому +2

    Have Star wars fans been lucky? 😂🤮

  • @jaredhartley
    @jaredhartley 8 місяців тому

    De-mock-racy……😬

  • @l.jacqueo
    @l.jacqueo 8 місяців тому

    How does it feel to have a whole channel based on a dead franchise ?

    • @theazurefire91
      @theazurefire91 4 місяці тому +1

      Oh please. This is like the fifth time Star Wars has died. It's too iconic to stay dead.

  • @deathmeister9452
    @deathmeister9452 8 місяців тому

    Who says fans have to listen to what a woke company states as canon? Its not George Lucas who created this bs canon, we could tell them to shove it and not accept their timeline regardless of who creates it as its the fans who have final say in weather or not its accepted and if the majority dont its not.