Traditional Broadhead Testing / The Verdict Is In! Public Land Recurve Hunt With Final Results!
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- Опубліковано 4 лис 2023
- Join me for a real live traditional bowhunt on public land in North Alabama where we’ll be giving the single bevel one more chance to see if the results are as good as we had hoped for versus larger cuts broadheads!
Hey Jeff maybe you will read this but I’ve been hunting with a hill style long bow and recurves since the early 90s and live on a peanut farm in Georgia. I shoot on average 8 deer a year with bow. I have shot Simmons for years but tried single bevels and got the exact same results with over three years and finally swapped back and my track dog Georgia died in 2009. In Georgia thickets if they don’t bleed you don’t find them!!! I shoot 620 grains 400 spine gold tip and 205 grain Simmons safari’s at 43 pounds with saint Patrick lake hill bow. God bless brother
After finding your channel a few weeks ago I've been working my way through your content. Always tended to shoot a lighter arrow and after watching your videos I decided to load the front like you've talked about in several videos now. I'm using a 50# longbow, a black hunter that I've acquired to test actually. The arrow I decided on is a GT Warrior 400 with a 100gr insert, a 160gr Zwickey Eskimo that i rounded the point to more of a chisel profile (learned from Ted Nugent) and an additional 60gr of GT weights at the back of the insert for a total weight of 320gr up front and a total arrow weight of roughly 585gr. Wrapped with 4 inch turkey feathers, helical left and standard GT nocks. Flies true and last week between Tuesday and Saturday I invited 3 deer to the freezer party. Never gotten a deer with archery equipment before, let alone several in a few days and I have to lend you credit where it's due, all three passed the penetration test thanks to all that extra momentum.
Second shot is a God send in most cases. Nice job. I really enjoyed being in the stand again. I understand the negatives of filming out of the stand, but you put your priorities first. Shot first, film second.
I’ll stay with my Landsharks imo they are devastating. Congrats & Ty for your content.
Beautiful job done, brother!!!🙏
Way to go Jeff! I appreciate the hunting video too!
Hey Jeff. So, I have experienced the same thing you have with the single bevel bloodtrails here in North Alabama. I have switched to Tuffhead Evolution 2 broadheads. And I now buy there blood rings. They are small blades that slide on. They are amazing. I still get all the penetration and cutting power of the single bevel but this opens up the entrance and exit wounds to really let the blood flow. I would highly suggest them.
Yeah that’s what I’m thinking!
Are we talking the Gold Tip Warrior Arrows, 6-pack for $70? That is cheap?? Great shot by the way. Love longbow hunting.
Yes sir! I love them thanks!👍🏻
Congratulations! Think I'm excited as you to see you get it. Way to not lose your cool after ramping one off a branch too. I'm still sick I got busted by a big buck on Oct 2nd in the Honey Island Swamp where I hunt. Did get a big ol boar on the 5th in the same spot though. Following your videos convinced me to try heavy arrows this season, and it paid off in spades, as I got a total pass through, double lung, on a thick hide boar. Didn't go much over 30 yards. Got the pictures! My 1st boar with a recurve as well.
50# Bear Kodiak from the ground. Easton Legacy 607 grain with a cheapo muzzy 3 blade fixed.
THANK YOU!!! I've learned so much from you, as I have no family or friends who hunt to learn from.
My grandfather only knew how to spotlight from an old truck😂
Lol it was fun for sure! I’ve been fortunate enough to get some really nice bucks in my time but I still get just as excited when a smaller one comes in!
Congrats on a great hunt & great second shot ! 🏹🦌👍
Thank you for sharing this experience with us!
All glory to God!
God Bless you and your family.🙏😇
Thanks brother I love it and really want to see what really works best 👍🏻
As I watch this I am making jerky out of a doe I shot 2 days ago. Shot with a 250 grain vpa single bevel. Very similar entrance and exit wound, but I think I only got one lung. The exit wound was actually clogged with tissue. The deer went 200 yards and a drone was needed for recovery. There was no blood after 20 yards.
Man I’m just glad you got her and at least now I know for sure what it really takes to devastate one lol
Appreciate the updates and testing as well as the level-headed review of the single bevel head.
I've been saying that for a while single bevel broadheads leave terrible blood trails IME. GLAD TO SEE SOMEONE else verifying this. Great if you hit them great and see them fall but terrible if you have to blood trail them. Great shot.
Yes sir it’s true at least with fairly narrow heads.
Great hunt and great example on the head style and what it can do
Thanks buddy I just watched your video on low light and that’s why I practice it a lot! Great work my friend!
Awesome job Jeff thanks for video
Outstanding Jeff, good shot.
NICE!! Any deer with any bow is a trophy.
Great Hunt Great Miss Great recovery from the miss Great hit Sage advise and insight outstanding to include kids in dads culture and lifestyle!
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Thanks brother that was fun! 😁
Congrats on your Trad buck!!! Yes I have heard small width single bevel Broadheads don't leave a lot of blood. Better to use a very wide single bevel for blood trails of 1.5 inches or more. I shoot double bevel Broadheads of 1.1/8 seems to be not bad for bloodtrails. Maybe I'll have to try those summon broadheads
Buy Landsharks 160 grain & never look back!
Exactly! More cutting surface and really sharp is the ticket, penetration is not an issue at all I’m finding with a 500 grain arrow anywhere behind the shoulder, even light poundage bows should get it done!
Game Animals react more intensely in testing to a human voice than than a replay of a lion’s roar 😎
Great video Jeff!!! Thanks for showing the shot! A lot of hunting video's are not because of moneytizing! I have the same problem with my Grizzly Bruin 3 to 1 single bevel. I killed 3 deer this season no blood!!! I just ordered Simon's tree shark's and a juel stick. Thanks again
You won’t regret it 👍🏻
Congratulations 👍🤘🦌That’s awesome
Great video brother can't wait to get home! And hunt some wheeler!
Good hunt!!
If you want to stick with single bevels and want bigger cut check out abowyers they have some heavier models up to 1.5 inch. And probably one of the sharpest factory sharpness I’ve seen on a broadhead.
Jeff check out the extract sb 200gr. 1 1/4 width or the razor sb 1 3/8 I think. Both great heads.
Glad to see what that head actually does. The VPA 3 blade would be much better I think. I have some old sharks as well.
Jeff, I have decided to sell off all my 400 spine shafts and fletched full length new arrows. Any good places to advertise them. I know it’s kinda late this year, but I have several dozen and most are GT Hunter Pros. I was thinking of still trying to get them to shoot in my 45 lb. long bow, but decided to go with the ones I know will tune. I have more than enough 500 spine arrows to keep, but all the 400’s need to go to a good home.
Yes, list them on Traditional Bowhunters Buy/Sell/Trade page on Facebook, they’ll sell quick on there.
The science behind broadheads that are narrow with a gradual sloping edge, and have the highest potential for great penetration is exactly what happened here. The deer doesn't know its hit and it may only go a few yards before stopping and looking around. After several critical seconds of internal bleeding, the deer realizes something is up, but it is too late and its final run is a short one, many times falling in sight or you can hear it crash as it goes out of sight. No blood trail needed. Wide broadheads can yield great blood trails, but have less potential to penetrate for a pass thru and on high hits with no pass thru, may still not produce a good blood trail. In some instances, even without a pass thru, you can get an adequate blood trail on lung hits because the blood exits the nose/mouth. Even with a small broadhead, if you hit a high pressure blood vessel like the arteries in the neck or the back leg femoral artery, the blood trail can be spectacular. I hit a deer thru the back leg with a tiny 7/8's inch 3 blade and I could see the blood spraying out of it as it ran 20 yards, stopped, and fell over backwards. Thanks for sharing the hunt!
My goal now is a Australian Sambar with Trad bow set up 👍😎
A what? Post pic
@@terrytownsend8462 how do I post a pic? Australian Sambar is a large tough Asiatic elk.
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Yes sir love it nice 😊
hey Jeff can you tell me what lighted nocks work well with the GT Warriors? it it hard to remove the factory nocks? Thanks!
Have you ever tried any 3 blade heads with your recurve? If so, how were the results, and what brands did you try?
Yes sir absolutely, the 3 blade 200 grain 3-1 VPA’s will shoot through about anything and with a great blood trail also very easy to get super sharp with sandpaper doing the circular motion 👍🏻
Great job man shoot what makes u happy is my motto , that the wire brim hat from 3 rivers ? I was hust about to order one
Yeah I’ve had it for years lol
I really enjoy your videos and the amount of research you put into things. I'm wondering if as a result of this latest deer kill are you thinking ALL single bevel 2 blades will leave a poor blood trail? I'm new to the traditional world and still waiting for my first shot at a deer let alone harvest. I ask this because I chose (for nostalgic reasons) the new Bear Razorhead single bevels and tuned things to shoot them very well. I'm running a 400 spine arrow with 264 grains up front and a total weight of 564 grains overall. If I get a deer with my setup I'll definitely let you know what my results were like. Thanks!
Well I honestly believe they need to be at least a 1 3/16” wide, these Omegas are only 1 1/16” just not enough to really open a wound channel.
@@instinctiveaddictionarcher8998 oh gotcha. I think mine are 1 1/8" actually so maybe that extra 16th will get the job done blood trail wise. On another note, does the bevel of those VPAs match the helical on your arrows? Everything I've seen says that is extremely important in their terminal performance.
@@donhood267 yes sir they do and it did what it was designed to do just not a big enough exit hole for what I’m used to lol
I wonder how the Simmons broadheads would fly out of a 370 crossbow ? The wider broadhead…
I shoot a hybrid mechanical now made by SWAT BROADHEADS & I have the ( coc)4 blade crossbow x-mag broadheads & it has 8 different cutting surfaces and it flys true to field point and they paint the forest red and the deer don’t go far but they are a one trick pony cause after you shoot a deer you will usually damage broadhead so I want to go to fixed blade & the Simmons stand out to me !
Very good actually! There are videos on that I’ve seen them, you just have to turn them where they’ll lay flat 👍🏻
It looked like your shot was a touch back. I have shot deer with nearly the same head. Mine are cutthroats but a very similar design single bevel. When you tuck the arrow up behind the leg more it hits lots of veins, lung in a better spot, and sometimes heart. with that type of shot there is much more liquid to come out without guts plugging the hole up. I only have 1 deer with the cutthroat but 5 with the montec g5. The montec also gets a bad rap for bad blood trails but all of the ones I have shot with the Montec died in sight and left a very easy to follow blood trail. Small hole in and small hole out but high in, low out right behind the leg.
Hi, Jeff what do you think about the tuff head blood rings for 3 to 1 single bevel Grizzlies? If they would work.
I would certainly think they would work with any single bevel head and definitely couldn’t hurt to try them!
What kind of tree stand set up were you using and how high? Great traditional hunt, we strive for Profection , God's great😁
I use an older Lone Wolf climber and I also use the lock ons with climbing sticks, normally climbing 20 feet but sometimes like this my cover limited me to 16 feet which was plenty for this hunt 👍🏻
@instinctiveaddictionarcher8998 awesome Jeff, your content of our beloved traditional archery is glorious and glorifying to our lord, keep it the videos coming, to me personally your channel is the best out there, because you bring your trial and error truth, and more importantly are God and Lord and savior Jesus Christ, well placed arrow sad blood trail, have a great day neighbor. 👊
@@outdoorsman9384 thank you my friend God Bless!
Congrats. What part of Alabama are you from. I'm in southwest Alabama
Athens
Congrats.....
Have you tried the mako or great white heads
They’re awesome!💯
Fantastic!
Hi Jeff, how wide is this broadhead?
VPA Omega is what he said in the video. What I have found is that if the broadhead is super sharp and is able to zip through without loud noises or mechanical stuff the deer doesn't know it is hit. This leads to them running off much slower or just standing there and falling over.
@@tray22
Thank you for your response.
I found the answer.
It's 1 1/16 inches wide.
What is the device holding your arrow on the shelf while it’s hanging ?
It’s a Stop The Drop by Gerry DeCaro! And you can order directly from him or Big Jim’s Bow Company, Jim sells them as well 👍🏻
@@instinctiveaddictionarcher8998 thank you
Tree sharks for the win 🏆
Way to keep your cool for a second shot
Lol believe me any deer gets me torn up!😁
What bow are you shooting
Actually the last bow we built, it’s an Instinctive Addiction C2 Ghost recurve👍🏻
Outstanding it is legal and God puts it in front of me it's going to go home with me you can't eat the antlers man
@@larryadams2184 amen brother!😁👍🏻
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Hi Jeff, This deer barely bleeds. Shouldn’t such a deer be eaten? The Bible tells us that we can not eat meat with blood.
Please read:
【Acts15:29】You are to abstain from food sacrificed to idols, from blood, from the meat of strangled animals and from sexual immorality. You will do well to avoid these things.Farewell.
In order to fear God and obey God's will, I suggest that everyone use wide broadheads for hunting so that the animals can be fully bled.
Thank you.
Not sure that is really what this scripture is about. The deer will be fully bled when he field dresses it and hangs it for butchering. An animal doesn't bleed completely out no matter what broadheads your using.
@@DamonHowattHunter
The animal has been dead for some time and the blood has coagulated inside the body. In this case, even if it is dissected, there will be no blood. This is why God says in the Bible not to eat strangled animals.