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@@BaBaNaNaBa i believe it would just replace steel in most weapons or work alongside it almost every weapon would be better with this super material other then blunt edge weapons
Just in case you dont see my other comment.. Put (Rebar and or Fiberglass) from the tang to as far as possible. I don't think your Tang would break then.
Hello Shad, i worked at a manufacture where we laminated parts by hand for Racecars/bikes (Lemans, MotoGP, KTM for example) Planes and Helicopters (Boeing,Airbus) and other high stress parts. I could help and get you in touch with the company to make your dream composite sword. I already have a few examples for improving the next sword
even before seeing the full video i think the most important improvement would be having a full length laser/plasma cut edge layer. you could cut away most of the material on the inside of the edge layer, but leaving like a sparse honeycomb grid of metal for the laminate to wrap around and hold onto would greatly improve stiffness and resiliance of the edge. also you could vary the density of the metal grid to tune the center of gravity to a very specific point giving it the optimal balance between cutting heft and nimbleness
Yo what company are you talking about, I am working quite a bit with varbon fiber too thanks to formula student and it would actually be funny if it was the same company I know
Shad in 2020: You fools, don’t you see!? It cannot be done! Shad in 2022: …but what if we could? Shad in 2024: Reality is whatever I want it to be. *becomes carbon fiber Dark Souls boss*
I STILL believe this sword deserves to be called the Tyranth sword for 2 reasons. 1: When you originally discussed how to call it, you mentioned calling it the Tyrant sword, which is close enough to Tyranth anyways. 2: As much as I love to see you teasing and bullying him Shad, Tyranth is putting a TREMENDOUS amount of effort into this stuff and if I remember correctly, long time viewer here, this long term project is pretty much the first thing that gave us viewers an insight into Tyranths craftsman skill. I believe he deserves to have it named after him.
Hear, hear! The dynamic between these two guys is great, but it's true that Tyranth does a lot more off screen than is obvious and deserves some credit. Plus he will definitely swing it harder ;)
I am a fibreglass boatbuilder, and I also made myself a carbon kevlar sword. I also went for scale, the overall length is 130cm. However I went with a single edged Japanese inspired design. I went with a sandwich layup between two layers MDF, hand wetted with System 3 silvertip resin and pressed with ~150kg in lead ingots. It turned out amazing! I used unidirectional carbon wrapped around the wedge shaped kevlar core. Its super stiff and its sharp enough to cut blackberry branches. I think it would be unparalleled against unarmored opponents. Perfect zombie killing weapon.
I remember mentioning the concept of carbon fiber swords back when I was in highschool and people telling me it’d never happen. This puts a goofily large grin on my face.
They told Da Vinci that flying machines would never exist. 20th century happens and we have an air force as well as commercial airliners. Guess who got the last laugh.
Carbon Fiber Swords... the answer to making realistic and yet absurdly large fantasy swords that are rather sturdy yet also slighter than the regular steel versions!
Shad at 26:02 "Remember, this isn't about what it does to the wood. It's about what the wood does to the blade". Shad not 24 seconds (minus replay) later: "It actually did more damage to the wood than the katana did..." He just couldn't stop himself could he?
I have a TRUE katana, made by a MASTER over 300 years ago. I once accidentally cut through my ceiling just taking one slow test swing. Sliced through like a hot knife through butter. Cleaning it one time I just barely brushed the edge with my finger and it cut off a slice of skin so smoothly, the cut reflected light and took over a minute to start bleeding, as if the cells hadn't even realized they'd been cut!
For your edge problems (the little pieces of edge not aligning) try using bandsaw blades. You can get 60 inch (150cm) blades that are .75 inch (about 2cm) wide that you can lay into the edge for a perfectly straight edge (obviously use the backside side of the bandsaw blade, not the saw edge). And it is nice tough springy steel.
"you don't hit very hard, relatively speaking..." "oh I hit as hard as i could! i went full power!" man that feeling when you are having two different conversations... you could see it in Tyranth's eyes
he seems soooooo annoyed a lot of the time hahahah and yeah they really often talk over each other and talk about different thingd....nice someone else noticed it letting me know i am not overanalyzing lol.
Shad is just too much of a shamelessly happy go lucky dork to even realize when someone's trolling him. Like a golden retriever with a giant sword. Truly uncanceleable.
Pure polystyrene plastic is about 62 pounds per cubic foot. Polystyrene insulation foam is 1-2 pounds per cubic foot. For torsion boxes that are going to demand large deformations, it may make more sense to use denser foam materials (exotic industrial EPS or EPP, or perhaps some type of soft wood) or to use a space frame of denser materials. Polystyrene insulation foam is very flexible, and has limitations in how much torsion it can take before debonding when it's in a totally enclosed volume. Small changes in density lead to large changes in deformability, just like small changes in thickness lead to large changes in floppyness. How much foam was actually used in the core? Solid balsa is 8-16 pounds per cubic foot, and eucalyptus is 30 pounds per cubic foot. Add another 0.5 to 1 pound of thickness and harder material as a core to fix the floppyness.
It used 3x 1.5mm pieces of soric, but people are misunderstanding how early this design was, this is actually large sword number 2, the first was made for the guys using only the exact instructions and dimensions, and ended up very floppy as they refused to use cores. We made this one with multiple core layers to stiffen the design up due to that. The suggestions I make are just gentle ones, letting them explore the materials and settle on their designs. I’m not here to take over their project, just to give them some fundamentals and make it work. Would I build it totally different if it were mine? Yes, but it’s not my project, it’s theirs, and if they want a certain shape and profile to best achieve the results they sale, I’m here to enable that, not to make my own design and force it upon them.
Hey there guys. I have a lot of construction experience with composite high end materials, even carbon fiber. To help solve the delamination and blade sharpness problem, you need to employ a tight fitting compress along the entire length. Have you guys seen the ancient flint sword prototype, or a macuahuitl? This is essentially what you need to do. Use the carbon fiber as the core with a u shaped insert along its length. Then, insert the blade separately. This allows you to have interchangeable blades and improves the overall integrity of the sword. Finally, employ a diamond shaped compress to the point where the guard meets the blade. These are just my thoughts, but regardless, I love what you guys are doing. Keep up the good work.
The guys are designing the sword, I just add some advice and make what they like. If I make them manufacture it my way, I take over their project and that’s not fair. With that in mind, I insisted on the Kevlar for safety and the thin strip core for rigidity, but they wanted to keep a very thin profile, and use 300mm long, 10mm wide, 1mm thick blades as their edges. The edges are thus very weak, held only by 8mm of resin and reinforcing at best, due to the thing edges used. Also, once they sand and grind into it to get that edge, they are cutting through the material, causing delaminating to occur as they’ve literally severed the fibres and broken the resin matrix. My original suggestion for a skeleton frame was noted, and in a perfect world, an encapsulated piece of composite would be ideal, but at the edges they are so thin due to the profile they want that they cannot use that method, even if they had a way to manufacture it, and I have neither the time nor the resources to spare to do so. In the end, the first large blade made entirely to their specs is sitting in my shop, the second blade was sent to them. The third blade is something different to this, and will be FAR stronger….
@@jamesmckenzie9551 You bring up some very excellent points, and I can see we had some very similar thoughts regarding construction of the sword. I definitively agree that a skeletal frame would have been much better. But it is, as you said, their project. And I must say, you and the team have obviously put in a lot of effort into this. I just wanted to offer my thoughts to the team. For what they are wanting, you have done a fantastic job, and I don't think I could have done better. Modern composite materials are extremely difficult to work with, carbon fiber especially. They are extremely strong, but finicky to work with. Keep up the good work Mr. McKenzie. I look forward to seeing what you have created in the future. 🤠
I'm getting a strong "Ak-50" vibe from Shadiversity. Keep pushing forward man! Just how Brandon Herrera fulfilled his dream of creating a 50 Bmg AK, I want to see you develop a fully functional giant sword! It took Brandon 8 years to fulfill his dream. Don't give up.
Yes… thank you… for sharing… that opinion… so… omin…ous…l…y………….. Also he added materia slots so it’s still fantasy just… Final… Fantasy… 7…………. And I hope all my ellipses made this extra clear.
Quick CONSTRUCTIVE comment for Shad specifically. Shad, I really appreciate your excitement and genuine passion. I have noticed, though, that sometimes you interrupt the other co-hosts and it shifts the conversation completely. I've found myself a but disappointed that I didn't get to hear what the other co-host intended to say. Anyway, that's it. Thank you for the videos.
I would reeeaaaally love to see them perfect this! Allready it could be used to make really cool swords, but the thought of making huuge functional swords is sooo much cooler!
@@ShadeSlayer1911 Considering the hilt is being mounted externally, why couldn't a crossguard be part of it? I know he didn't do it there, but that doesn't mean he can't?
9:00 weight, (im proud shad got it right) 10:40 manuvrable testing 11:45 one hand with sheld, theu then shake there blades to see flexibility The speed and reach of this is amazing snd if its strong enough it will be the best sword 16:40 composiing materials 18:40 cutting, 23:04 "it squirted at me" 26:10 hard testing against wood Tang broke.... Watch analysis... Increase tang length 28:10 final thoughts
Integrating nano-plating into the design of the sword can elevate its strength, durability, and functionality even further. Here's how nano-plating can be incorporated: Nano-Plating Design for the Sword 1. Blade Nano-Coating: Diamond-Like Carbon (DLC) Nano-Coating: The blade can be covered with a layer of DLC, which is an extremely hard and slick material that mimics the properties of diamond. This would provide: Superior Hardness: The blade would be much more resistant to nicks, scratches, and wear over time. Low Friction: The DLC would reduce friction when cutting through various materials, improving cutting efficiency and preventing the blade from getting stuck. Corrosion Resistance: DLC is also resistant to rust and corrosion, further extending the sword’s lifespan. 2. Self-Healing Nano-Plating: Nano-Composite Plating: This would involve using nanomaterials that can "self-heal" minor damage like scratches or dents. When the sword encounters micro-damage, the nano-plating would fill in the gaps or cracks automatically, keeping the blade looking new and maintaining its performance. Example Materials: Self-healing polymers and metals with embedded nanoparticles could be used for this. Upon exposure to heat (from use or external application), the nano-coating repairs itself, reinforcing the structure. 3. Adaptive Nano-Plating: Temperature-Resistant Nanomaterials: Nano-plating can also adapt to the temperature extremes a blade might face. A ceramic-based nano-coating could be applied to give the blade extreme heat resistance, making it capable of withstanding high-energy impacts or even plasma-infused edges without deforming or losing sharpness. Adaptive Conductivity: Incorporating nanomaterials that adjust to electromagnetic fields or temperature changes can allow the sword to conduct or insulate electricity as needed, especially useful for a sword with an energy core or plasma edge. 4. Surface Nano-Textures for Enhanced Functionality: Hydrophobic and Oleophobic Nano-Plating: This would make the sword repel water, oil, and other liquids, keeping it dry and clean in all conditions. This is especially useful for a sword used in diverse environments, ensuring better grip and preventing any unwanted materials from sticking to the blade during use. Micro-Geometrical Nano-Textures: The blade could feature nano-scale texturing that enhances cutting performance. These textures can optimize the airflow and friction around the blade, ensuring it cuts smoother and cleaner through various materials, even organic or hardened substances. 5. Nano-Plated Guard and Hilt: Nano-Scale Armor for the Guard: The guard and hilt can be reinforced with nano-plated materials, such as carbon nanotube composites. These materials are incredibly strong yet lightweight, offering high durability without making the sword heavier. Conductive Nano-Plating for Electromagnetic Use: In a sword with an electromagnetic sheath, the hilt and guard can be nano-plated with materials that ensure better electrical conduction or insulation, depending on the need for charging the blade’s energy systems or interacting with its electromagnetic locking mechanism. Advantages of Nano-Plating: 1. Extreme Durability: Nano-plating significantly increases the hardness and wear resistance of the blade, ensuring it stays sharp and effective for much longer periods of time. 2. Self-Cleaning and Maintenance-Free: Hydrophobic nano-coatings make the blade highly resistant to dirt and moisture, reducing maintenance and keeping it combat-ready at all times. 3. Adaptive Capabilities: The right nano-plating can adjust to different environmental conditions (such as heat, cold, or electromagnetic fields), enhancing the sword’s versatility. 4. Enhanced Aesthetics: Nano-plating can give the sword a unique and futuristic sheen, ranging from matte black to mirror-like finishes, and even changing color based on light or temperature. Final Vision: By applying nano-plating technology, this sword would be an ultra-durable, nearly indestructible weapon with self-repair capabilities, incredible sharpness retention, and adaptive properties for different combat situations. The combination of a graphene-infused titanium core and nano-plated exterior would make it cutting-edge in both design and function, the ultimate fusion of futuristic technology and traditional weapon craftsmanship.
You could comission a laser cut edge template and layer the carbon fiber on top of it. If lamination becomes an issue, you could rough up the surface of the steel with a side grinder or a rough grit belt sander. If you had the edge be one uniform shape, that would improve the cutting ability of the blade by a large margin.
There's some testing you can still do even broken; it's a test we don't do with steel swords because we know by now how steel reacts to being hit by steel, but we don't know how carbon fiber holds up when getting hit by sharpened steel. After all, if this is to be a functional sword it needs to be able to hold up against clashes with steel swords. So mount the sword somewhere, and hit with various strengths starting with gentle parry behavior, to full strength strikes with a steel sword.
I mean, a regular Buster Sword is usable, if you're strong enough. Not _practical,_ but ≥greatswords generally aren't... I bought my father a ~8×50 inch blade as a souvenir, years ago. I wouldn't try clashing with it for fear of snapping the tang, but it does cut _quite_ effectively. It's _heavy._ Far too heavy for dexterous swordplay... but for people his size & mine, it's not too heavy to wield with horrific efficacy...
@@prophetzarquon I'm remembering the original set of "Man at Arms." Their Buster Sword weighed 50 LBS/22.5 Kilo, and it was almost entirely aluminum (apart from the edge). The most you can do with that is chop stuff one at a time. I want to do the spinny victory dance with it!
@@hla0roo Oh man, practice a _lot_ with something else before doing the spinny victory dance with a blade this size... I would definitely want a nice *_heavy_* pommel, too, considering the length.
8:00-9:00 I love how you quickly went over the Multiple criteria (NOT JUST ONE) to determine something about your subject matter, all while showing it. No elitism, no "I'm right because I'm good and you are evil", no "trust the formalism", either.
it would be an extremely difficult fabrication but I had an idea to protect the lamination! You could have a V shaped metal "crown" so to speak, covering the entire edge of the blade. The edges of the lamination could tuck into the V, and then you would have a solid metal edge which should give whatever you're cutting much worse odds of delaminating the carbon fiber!
I used to do bird strike testing on compsite propeller blades, this test and the layup made me happy to watch. I might suggest trying to use a y shaped edge to sandwich the carbon inside the steel layers
Dude, the reconstruction of the handle looks dope af. Maybe it would look even cooler with some bluing or a brass finish, but that by itself already makes it look way more badass, in spite of it missing a cross guard
Since the weight was not an issue, you could try edges caped like V. So the blade likes like . This would improve the ability to sharpening it. And i believe its durability. At the cost of a little higher weight.
Nota gonna lie, it kinda looks cooler at the end without the hand guard, all bolted together like that, but overall it's really impressive that it actually managed to do well as a legit sword.
Shad, you need to cast the steel blade INTO the lay-up, meaning using evenly spaced holes along its length, the carbon-fiber itself becomes the rivet material. This also has the advantage of potentially incorporating steel into the tang to reinforce it. Using a pre-shaped mould and pressing it, while also pulling a vacuum on the mould itself, will mostly eliminate the need for shaping bevels manually, needing only minor work to clean up, meaning a smooth continuous surface which will be less susceptible to delamination. Try a shape like an over-size falchion to start, as being single edged its far easier to prototype.
If you guys can make those functional, you may have opened a small market for them. Who doesn't love planting a field of watermelons for summer test cuts? LoL
the top men continuing to build our dream weapon!!!!! yes!!!!!, and theres something about the sounds of armor slowed down thats soooo~~~ saticfying... the clash of metal on metal... the strength, the security, and perminance... oh yeah~ 20:03
It’s great to see how far this channel has expanded and all the amazing things you guys have made since. Keep up the great work guys, whether it’s informative videos, or testing projects like this; your content is always getting more impressive by the day.
One thing you could do for the blades is using bandsaw blades. They're really long, and really thin. They would probably be better for filling our more of the blade, and using fewer sections.
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I think carbon halberd with spring steel head would be much more useful
@@BaBaNaNaBa i believe it would just replace steel in most weapons or work alongside it almost every weapon would be better with this super material other then blunt edge weapons
Just in case you dont see my other comment.. Put (Rebar and or Fiberglass) from the tang to as far as possible.
I don't think your Tang would break then.
17:32.... It's the giant sword isn't it? Level with me, because if it's the giant sword then (insert Futurama "shut up and take my money meme)
You should put an edge on it like we put an edge on hockey skates. It's a different edge geometry.
Hello Shad, i worked at a manufacture where we laminated parts by hand for Racecars/bikes (Lemans, MotoGP, KTM for example) Planes and Helicopters (Boeing,Airbus) and other high stress parts. I could help and get you in touch with the company to make your dream composite sword. I already have a few examples for improving the next sword
even before seeing the full video i think the most important improvement would be having a full length laser/plasma cut edge layer. you could cut away most of the material on the inside of the edge layer, but leaving like a sparse honeycomb grid of metal for the laminate to wrap around and hold onto would greatly improve stiffness and resiliance of the edge.
also you could vary the density of the metal grid to tune the center of gravity to a very specific point giving it the optimal balance between cutting heft and nimbleness
@@TheScarvig That sounds like a good idea the laser cut edge layer.
I hope Shad does this ^ ^
Should probably send him an email
Yo what company are you talking about, I am working quite a bit with varbon fiber too thanks to formula student and it would actually be funny if it was the same company I know
Shad in 2020: You fools, don’t you see!? It cannot be done!
Shad in 2022: …but what if we could?
Shad in 2024: Reality is whatever I want it to be. *becomes carbon fiber Dark Souls boss*
As Mythbusters Adam Savage and others have said.
"I reject Your Reality and Substitute My Own!"
@@barelyasurvivor1257 Mythbusters? No, Dungeon Master!
Shad 2020: "It's can't be done!"
Shad 2024: "Not with that attitude!"
@@latt.qcd9221 Exactly 😂
the Carbon Crusader
"Will it kill?"
"Yes, and I feel that's something we had an issue with last time with the knife."
"We had to put so much effort with the knife"
It will put an unholy fear into any enemy armed with pool noodles.
I was also wondering... who have have they murdered? How many have they murdered 🤔
@@knifeyonline the noodle army to the north! obviously
If you build it, we will come.
😅
I came as soon as I saw the title.
I know exactly what I said.
Same 😊@@Vedues
Do not come, do not come.....
I'm going to come
27:06 hahahahahahahahah!
I STILL believe this sword deserves to be called the Tyranth sword for 2 reasons.
1: When you originally discussed how to call it, you mentioned calling it the Tyrant sword, which is close enough to Tyranth anyways.
2: As much as I love to see you teasing and bullying him Shad, Tyranth is putting a TREMENDOUS amount of effort into this stuff and if I remember correctly, long time viewer here, this long term project is pretty much the first thing that gave us viewers an insight into Tyranths craftsman skill.
I believe he deserves to have it named after him.
Hear, hear! The dynamic between these two guys is great, but it's true that Tyranth does a lot more off screen than is obvious and deserves some credit. Plus he will definitely swing it harder ;)
A "Tyranth-Shad" sword actually has a nice exotic fantasy ring to it.
@@d_p2371The Tyr'ad!
@@d_p2371 The Tyransh
Tyrithshey😂
I am a fibreglass boatbuilder, and I also made myself a carbon kevlar sword. I also went for scale, the overall length is 130cm. However I went with a single edged Japanese inspired design. I went with a sandwich layup between two layers MDF, hand wetted with System 3 silvertip resin and pressed with ~150kg in lead ingots. It turned out amazing! I used unidirectional carbon wrapped around the wedge shaped kevlar core. Its super stiff and its sharp enough to cut blackberry branches. I think it would be unparalleled against unarmored opponents. Perfect zombie killing weapon.
I would ditch the core. Also the single edge allows for a wider bevel
First AK-50 and now Carbond Fiber Sword!? We're so fucking back!!!
damn right, LET'S GOOO
Yessir. Let’s go Brandon and Shad
Next up: Can Cabron Fiber Sword Split shots from AK-50?
Put Brandon and Shad together and they Will ending up making Squall's Gunblade!
2024 has peaked.
I remember mentioning the concept of carbon fiber swords back when I was in highschool and people telling me it’d never happen. This puts a goofily large grin on my face.
They told Da Vinci that flying machines would never exist. 20th century happens and we have an air force as well as commercial airliners. Guess who got the last laugh.
@@anderporascu5026well, none of them. They're dead.
@@colby1398😂
People have been trying to make them from just carbon fiber, that's not going to work. This sort of composite however is somewhat plausible.
I mean... how do you sharpen pants or a rug? You're working with strong textile. It's not called carbon metal for a reason.
“Floppiness doesn’t necessarily mean it’s a bad sword.”
That line has yet to work for me, too.
Now we need to mount it as a bayonet to Brandon Herrera's AK-50
lol making the best weapon of all time
one for all ages a super weapon of sorts
Glad I'm not the only one who thought that
A weapon to surpass metal gear
Remember it's not a war crime the first time
May this sword forever be known as CurseBreaker, and may the Shadlands thrive forever! For the Shadlands, for castles, and for swords everywhere! 🎉
The next one they make better be called machicolation
But what about dragons
@@charlottewalnut3118 Haha, indeed! And all dragons! And how could I forget…MACHICCCOLLLAAATTTTIIIIIOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONNNNNNNSSSSSSS!!! 😊
Sir, news have come that CurseBreaker has been reforged by Lord Tyranth!
Cursebreaker is actually such a badass name for a sword.
Carbon Fiber Swords... the answer to making realistic and yet absurdly large fantasy swords that are rather sturdy yet also slighter than the regular steel versions!
Shad at 26:02 "Remember, this isn't about what it does to the wood. It's about what the wood does to the blade".
Shad not 24 seconds (minus replay) later: "It actually did more damage to the wood than the katana did..."
He just couldn't stop himself could he?
He was telling himself, not the audience. :)
I have a TRUE katana, made by a MASTER over 300 years ago. I once accidentally cut through my ceiling just taking one slow test swing. Sliced through like a hot knife through butter. Cleaning it one time I just barely brushed the edge with my finger and it cut off a slice of skin so smoothly, the cut reflected light and took over a minute to start bleeding, as if the cells hadn't even realized they'd been cut!
@@Alondro77 Bro has a High-Frequency Blade from MGR
@@anusaukko6792 I think it might be a legit ZANPAKTOU!!! If I can find it's name, I can use BANKAI!!! :D
For your edge problems (the little pieces of edge not aligning) try using bandsaw blades.
You can get 60 inch (150cm) blades that are .75 inch (about 2cm) wide that you can lay into the edge for a perfectly straight edge (obviously use the backside side of the bandsaw blade, not the saw edge). And it is nice tough springy steel.
Giga brain 🧠
I did exactly that with my carbon fiber katana build, worked like a charm.
"you don't hit very hard, relatively speaking..."
"oh I hit as hard as i could! i went full power!"
man that feeling when you are having two different conversations... you could see it in Tyranth's eyes
he seems soooooo annoyed a lot of the time hahahah and yeah they really often talk over each other and talk about different thingd....nice someone else noticed it letting me know i am not overanalyzing lol.
Shad is just too much of a shamelessly happy go lucky dork to even realize when someone's trolling him. Like a golden retriever with a giant sword. Truly uncanceleable.
The Titan Sword is one step closer to becoming a reality!!
Guess what: 2 minutes old and it's in my home feed. Has the curse been lifted?
Let's hope so
Fr I saw a notification for shad, feel like ibhavnt watched in so long cus I wasn't getting notifications
20 minutes for me so maybe it was lifted
idk I've been getting the videos within minutes of upload for months
If so we shall name this sword the Cursebreaker!
You gents bickering is the funniest shit. Ty. ....squirted at me LMFAO
Pure polystyrene plastic is about 62 pounds per cubic foot. Polystyrene insulation foam is 1-2 pounds per cubic foot. For torsion boxes that are going to demand large deformations, it may make more sense to use denser foam materials (exotic industrial EPS or EPP, or perhaps some type of soft wood) or to use a space frame of denser materials. Polystyrene insulation foam is very flexible, and has limitations in how much torsion it can take before debonding when it's in a totally enclosed volume. Small changes in density lead to large changes in deformability, just like small changes in thickness lead to large changes in floppyness.
How much foam was actually used in the core?
Solid balsa is 8-16 pounds per cubic foot, and eucalyptus is 30 pounds per cubic foot.
Add another 0.5 to 1 pound of thickness and harder material as a core to fix the floppyness.
I think we learned here that big phalluses are just floppy
I didn't even think of wood they made bombers with that stuff for god's sake
Definitely worth considering
The natural fibres of wood may indeed have a preferable effect.@@Psycorde
It used 3x 1.5mm pieces of soric, but people are misunderstanding how early this design was, this is actually large sword number 2, the first was made for the guys using only the exact instructions and dimensions, and ended up very floppy as they refused to use cores. We made this one with multiple core layers to stiffen the design up due to that.
The suggestions I make are just gentle ones, letting them explore the materials and settle on their designs. I’m not here to take over their project, just to give them some fundamentals and make it work. Would I build it totally different if it were mine? Yes, but it’s not my project, it’s theirs, and if they want a certain shape and profile to best achieve the results they sale, I’m here to enable that, not to make my own design and force it upon them.
Just add stick, stick very good!
Hey there guys. I have a lot of construction experience with composite high end materials, even carbon fiber. To help solve the delamination and blade sharpness problem, you need to employ a tight fitting compress along the entire length. Have you guys seen the ancient flint sword prototype, or a macuahuitl? This is essentially what you need to do. Use the carbon fiber as the core with a u shaped insert along its length. Then, insert the blade separately. This allows you to have interchangeable blades and improves the overall integrity of the sword. Finally, employ a diamond shaped compress to the point where the guard meets the blade. These are just my thoughts, but regardless, I love what you guys are doing. Keep up the good work.
This sounds smart to me
The guys are designing the sword, I just add some advice and make what they like. If I make them manufacture it my way, I take over their project and that’s not fair. With that in mind, I insisted on the Kevlar for safety and the thin strip core for rigidity, but they wanted to keep a very thin profile, and use 300mm long, 10mm wide, 1mm thick blades as their edges.
The edges are thus very weak, held only by 8mm of resin and reinforcing at best, due to the thing edges used. Also, once they sand and grind into it to get that edge, they are cutting through the material, causing delaminating to occur as they’ve literally severed the fibres and broken the resin matrix.
My original suggestion for a skeleton frame was noted, and in a perfect world, an encapsulated piece of composite would be ideal, but at the edges they are so thin due to the profile they want that they cannot use that method, even if they had a way to manufacture it, and I have neither the time nor the resources to spare to do so. In the end, the first large blade made entirely to their specs is sitting in my shop, the second blade was sent to them. The third blade is something different to this, and will be FAR stronger….
@@jamesmckenzie9551 👀
@@jamesmckenzie9551
You bring up some very excellent points, and I can see we had some very similar thoughts regarding construction of the sword. I definitively agree that a skeletal frame would have been much better. But it is, as you said, their project. And I must say, you and the team have obviously put in a lot of effort into this.
I just wanted to offer my thoughts to the team. For what they are wanting, you have done a fantastic job, and I don't think I could have done better. Modern composite materials are extremely difficult to work with, carbon fiber especially. They are extremely strong, but finicky to work with. Keep up the good work Mr. McKenzie. I look forward to seeing what you have created in the future. 🤠
Wouldn't a bit of steel in the tang composition solve the breakage issue?
Tyranth and Shad look like a professional medieval knight and a crazy scientist that brought him in our times with a time machine
I'm getting a strong "Ak-50" vibe from Shadiversity. Keep pushing forward man! Just how Brandon Herrera fulfilled his dream of creating a 50 Bmg AK, I want to see you develop a fully functional giant sword! It took Brandon 8 years to fulfill his dream. Don't give up.
Honestly I just love how the rivet repair at the end completely changed the aesthetic from fantasy to sci-fi.
They also deleted the crossguard, which I think did more for that aesthetic shift than the riveting did…
Yes… thank you… for sharing… that opinion… so… omin…ous…l…y…………..
Also he added materia slots so it’s still fantasy just… Final… Fantasy… 7………….
And I hope all my ellipses made this extra clear.
no man, you definitely over emphasized them...@@wompus_king
@@wompus_king......... Crystal......clear........
Watching you two give eachother a hard time is half the fun.
Shad and Tyranth are now Honorary Member's of
"The Knights of the Pool Noodle Slayers."
Got to make some Pool Noodle monster for D&D
I love that when you weighed it you immediately knew which sword was closest in weight to compare with and RAN off to get it!
Absolutely! That's a level of passion and competency that makes these videos so great.
Quick CONSTRUCTIVE comment for Shad specifically.
Shad, I really appreciate your excitement and genuine passion. I have noticed, though, that sometimes you interrupt the other co-hosts and it shifts the conversation completely. I've found myself a but disappointed that I didn't get to hear what the other co-host intended to say.
Anyway, that's it. Thank you for the videos.
Tyranth and Shad bickering over who gets to claim the color red is hilarious
This has been the labor of ages and it’s finally here…
One day we'll get to monomolecular super swords and then Shad can test them out on blocks of concrete
Shad and Tyranth shaking their floppy greatswords together in front of a castle. Now that's something I didn't think I'd see ;-)
someone is with me. two men comparing lengths and floppyness, while remaining perfectly wholesome..
In a month, Brandon built the AK 50, and Shad built this. Fantastic
I would reeeaaaally love to see them perfect this! Allready it could be used to make really cool swords, but the thought of making huuge functional swords is sooo much cooler!
Call it CURSEBREAKER!
a name fit for such a beautiful blade
Astounding, I’m so excited to see that it was finally completed
Can’t wait for the follow up, the sword looked even cooler with the new handle 😀
The fact that this sword is so big and only 1.5 kilos is insane
That rebuild Tyranth showed off at the end looks SOOO cool
The lack of a crossguard worries me though.
@@ShadeSlayer1911 the reach will make up for it
@@ShadeSlayer1911 Considering the hilt is being mounted externally, why couldn't a crossguard be part of it? I know he didn't do it there, but that doesn't mean he can't?
@@JarieSuicune I have no idea. I know very little about sword construction.
I can tell that shad is a pain in the ass to work with . Just based on the expressions on the blacksmiths face throughout the video. Lol
There are certainly places where Tyranth looks to be holding back a wince, for sure.
Two grown men talking about how floppy their swords are. Perfect 👌🏽
“It squirted at me” *wipes eyes*
They found a way to make them stiffer, so that should help.
The dangle-shaking at crotch height 12:52 🤣
@@philm7758 Came here for this, lol
9:00 weight, (im proud shad got it right)
10:40 manuvrable testing
11:45 one hand with sheld, theu then shake there blades to see flexibility
The speed and reach of this is amazing snd if its strong enough it will be the best sword
16:40 composiing materials
18:40 cutting,
23:04 "it squirted at me"
26:10 hard testing against wood
Tang broke.... Watch analysis... Increase tang length
28:10 final thoughts
But no noodle test 😅
We got a sword update before gta6
im all for it, keep the prototypes rolling!
The repaired sword right at the end is straight up awesome! Looking forward to the demonstration.
12:32 Shad and Tyranth shaking their swords to see who’s is floppier 😅😂
Integrating nano-plating into the design of the sword can elevate its strength, durability, and functionality even further. Here's how nano-plating can be incorporated:
Nano-Plating Design for the Sword
1. Blade Nano-Coating:
Diamond-Like Carbon (DLC) Nano-Coating: The blade can be covered with a layer of DLC, which is an extremely hard and slick material that mimics the properties of diamond. This would provide:
Superior Hardness: The blade would be much more resistant to nicks, scratches, and wear over time.
Low Friction: The DLC would reduce friction when cutting through various materials, improving cutting efficiency and preventing the blade from getting stuck.
Corrosion Resistance: DLC is also resistant to rust and corrosion, further extending the sword’s lifespan.
2. Self-Healing Nano-Plating:
Nano-Composite Plating: This would involve using nanomaterials that can "self-heal" minor damage like scratches or dents. When the sword encounters micro-damage, the nano-plating would fill in the gaps or cracks automatically, keeping the blade looking new and maintaining its performance.
Example Materials: Self-healing polymers and metals with embedded nanoparticles could be used for this. Upon exposure to heat (from use or external application), the nano-coating repairs itself, reinforcing the structure.
3. Adaptive Nano-Plating:
Temperature-Resistant Nanomaterials: Nano-plating can also adapt to the temperature extremes a blade might face. A ceramic-based nano-coating could be applied to give the blade extreme heat resistance, making it capable of withstanding high-energy impacts or even plasma-infused edges without deforming or losing sharpness.
Adaptive Conductivity: Incorporating nanomaterials that adjust to electromagnetic fields or temperature changes can allow the sword to conduct or insulate electricity as needed, especially useful for a sword with an energy core or plasma edge.
4. Surface Nano-Textures for Enhanced Functionality:
Hydrophobic and Oleophobic Nano-Plating: This would make the sword repel water, oil, and other liquids, keeping it dry and clean in all conditions. This is especially useful for a sword used in diverse environments, ensuring better grip and preventing any unwanted materials from sticking to the blade during use.
Micro-Geometrical Nano-Textures: The blade could feature nano-scale texturing that enhances cutting performance. These textures can optimize the airflow and friction around the blade, ensuring it cuts smoother and cleaner through various materials, even organic or hardened substances.
5. Nano-Plated Guard and Hilt:
Nano-Scale Armor for the Guard: The guard and hilt can be reinforced with nano-plated materials, such as carbon nanotube composites. These materials are incredibly strong yet lightweight, offering high durability without making the sword heavier.
Conductive Nano-Plating for Electromagnetic Use: In a sword with an electromagnetic sheath, the hilt and guard can be nano-plated with materials that ensure better electrical conduction or insulation, depending on the need for charging the blade’s energy systems or interacting with its electromagnetic locking mechanism.
Advantages of Nano-Plating:
1. Extreme Durability: Nano-plating significantly increases the hardness and wear resistance of the blade, ensuring it stays sharp and effective for much longer periods of time.
2. Self-Cleaning and Maintenance-Free: Hydrophobic nano-coatings make the blade highly resistant to dirt and moisture, reducing maintenance and keeping it combat-ready at all times.
3. Adaptive Capabilities: The right nano-plating can adjust to different environmental conditions (such as heat, cold, or electromagnetic fields), enhancing the sword’s versatility.
4. Enhanced Aesthetics: Nano-plating can give the sword a unique and futuristic sheen, ranging from matte black to mirror-like finishes, and even changing color based on light or temperature.
Final Vision:
By applying nano-plating technology, this sword would be an ultra-durable, nearly indestructible weapon with self-repair capabilities, incredible sharpness retention, and adaptive properties for different combat situations. The combination of a graphene-infused titanium core and nano-plated exterior would make it cutting-edge in both design and function, the ultimate fusion of futuristic technology and traditional weapon craftsmanship.
Just watching some Aussie boys with their toys. The joy that Shad is exuding here is infectious.
The Titan Sword is the HEMA version of the AK-50.
Hopefully not. The ak-50 took 8 whole years!
@@nicholasbrosseau3405 just 7 more to go.
Technically the AK-50 is still a prototype.
Probably not the best name for something carbon fibre💀
You guys compliment each other so well here I really like the back and forth it’s so natural!
I love the bit where Shad and Tyranth have a "flop-off"
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🤨📸
Sounds inappropriate out of context
@@Psycorde that's the intent
while never becoming trashy..
Heeeelllllll yeah brother, big sword go swing
Shockingly enough: I could see how unusually light it was from the very first clip the sword was being held.
Our patience has finally paid off boys.
EDIT: Wish Nate had been here though; he'd be proud.
i am so excited
He watches us from above 😢
did nate pass away ?
@@nikolaiBigideasno, he went into a Corp role that I think was too lucrative to ignore.
I'm impressed by all the enthusiasm put into this project.
The Kevlar is for deflecting bullets with your sword...
Damn that fixed sword in the end looks sick af
Indeed!
i love the childlike competition between you two. its so great to see genuine content on youtube that isnt scripted to the pitch of an laugh!
The Titan Sword is the Sword Community's AK-50.
There is no changing my mind.
12:30 "Shake it, shake it. See? Yours flops more 🤪😂
Then you see them comparing... skill issues.
Bigger stiffer and black. Just like your mum likes it. 😆
23:04 "It squirted, at me"
😂
Shad shaking his demonstrably floppier sword at 12:30
You could comission a laser cut edge template and layer the carbon fiber on top of it.
If lamination becomes an issue, you could rough up the surface of the steel with a side grinder or a rough grit belt sander. If you had the edge be one uniform shape, that would improve the cutting ability of the blade by a large margin.
"Shad, the last great knight of the empire" Would be the title of a dark souls boss with that sword and shield
I love the pre-dragonslayer shape. cant make a giant sword without paying homage to the king of giant swords himself.
There's some testing you can still do even broken; it's a test we don't do with steel swords because we know by now how steel reacts to being hit by steel, but we don't know how carbon fiber holds up when getting hit by sharpened steel. After all, if this is to be a functional sword it needs to be able to hold up against clashes with steel swords.
So mount the sword somewhere, and hit with various strengths starting with gentle parry behavior, to full strength strikes with a steel sword.
The size is the size of Gut's earlier huge sword from the Golden Age arc.
I was thinking Cloud's.
@@Johnny-rj9on Cloud's sword is based on Guts.
@@rpgadventurer32not a big surprise, sometimes it feels like half of every cool thing from Japan was based on Guts or his world
Wait... You're telling me we might get a legitimate, usable Buster Sword in future???
I mean, a regular Buster Sword is usable, if you're strong enough.
Not _practical,_ but ≥greatswords generally aren't...
I bought my father a ~8×50 inch blade as a souvenir, years ago. I wouldn't try clashing with it for fear of snapping the tang, but it does cut _quite_ effectively.
It's _heavy._ Far too heavy for dexterous swordplay... but for people his size & mine, it's not too heavy to wield with horrific efficacy...
@@prophetzarquon I'm remembering the original set of "Man at Arms." Their Buster Sword weighed 50 LBS/22.5 Kilo, and it was almost entirely aluminum (apart from the edge). The most you can do with that is chop stuff one at a time. I want to do the spinny victory dance with it!
@@hla0roo Oh man, practice a _lot_ with something else before doing the spinny victory dance with a blade this size... I would definitely want a nice *_heavy_* pommel, too, considering the length.
Then work on a fusion sword
Yeah right in time for the electro magnetic shield combat...😂
brandon herrara is finished with the ak50 and just like that im invested in a new weapon concept coming to reality
The AK-50 and the Carbon Fiber Greatsword in the same year? Fucking legendary.
I was going to make a joke about blunt blades.
But I don't see the point.
Careful with that, blunt puns can do more accidental damage than a properly ground in joke.
[throws tomato]
I see you think you’re so sharp with your puns
That joke was a bit too edgy for me.
😂👍
3:16 the AK-50 of swords… heck, when ya complete the design, you gotta put it against an AK-50
Congratulations!!
One small step for Shad,
one giant leap for sword nerds.
ok the second version after being destroyed actually looks way cooler.
Was so excited when this whole thing started and this was well worth the wait.
Great work and excited to see where this goes
So THATS how you make Shardblades.
2 guys discussing whose, erm, sword is bigger, floppier and stiffer. This is why internet was invented!
I wondered how long this comment would take. The internet did not take long at all
8:00-9:00 I love how you quickly went over the Multiple criteria (NOT JUST ONE) to determine something about your subject matter, all while showing it. No elitism, no "I'm right because I'm good and you are evil", no "trust the formalism", either.
oh that looks so cool at the very end in the sneak peek, with that riveted plate holding the handle on it looks legitimately deadly
Been a good few months Brandon Herarr makes his AK-50 and Shad and crew make pretty noticeable progress on his carbon fiber large sword.
it would be an extremely difficult fabrication but I had an idea to protect the lamination! You could have a V shaped metal "crown" so to speak, covering the entire edge of the blade. The edges of the lamination could tuck into the V, and then you would have a solid metal edge which should give whatever you're cutting much worse odds of delaminating the carbon fiber!
Excellent! I have been waiting on the edge of my seat for this to drop!!!
It doesnt matter to me if the sword is any good. I just enjoyed watching you two giggling like a couple of kids having the most fun
I love that we get a peek at the fixed handle at the end. I'm looking forward to the next one!
Heck yeah!, I've been waiting for updates on this project
Kind of surprised at the amount of Herrera fans that watch this Shad too
Guns are cool
Swords are cool too
right ? That's damn cool !!
Weapons are just cool
I used to do bird strike testing on compsite propeller blades, this test and the layup made me happy to watch. I might suggest trying to use a y shaped edge to sandwich the carbon inside the steel layers
Dude, the reconstruction of the handle looks dope af. Maybe it would look even cooler with some bluing or a brass finish, but that by itself already makes it look way more badass, in spite of it missing a cross guard
Foam core is used in military helicopter rotors to allow them to flex and resist breaking apart from bullet holes and striking objects, etc.
Since the weight was not an issue, you could try edges caped like V. So the blade likes like .
This would improve the ability to sharpening it. And i believe its durability. At the cost of a little higher weight.
Shadiversity hasn't been recommended to me for a long time. I'm glad I got a notification for this!
Nota gonna lie, it kinda looks cooler at the end without the hand guard, all bolted together like that, but overall it's really impressive that it actually managed to do well as a legit sword.
You all had that sparkle in your eyes. The excitement is contagious my guys!
Shad, you need to cast the steel blade INTO the lay-up, meaning using evenly spaced holes along its length, the carbon-fiber itself becomes the rivet material. This also has the advantage of potentially incorporating steel into the tang to reinforce it. Using a pre-shaped mould and pressing it, while also pulling a vacuum on the mould itself, will mostly eliminate the need for shaping bevels manually, needing only minor work to clean up, meaning a smooth continuous surface which will be less susceptible to delamination. Try a shape like an over-size falchion to start, as being single edged its far easier to prototype.
12:30 Shad shakes his floppy sword with Tyranth.
If you guys can make those functional, you may have opened a small market for them. Who doesn't love planting a field of watermelons for summer test cuts? LoL
Next test they should do this with a massive War-Scythe build... Really test the limits of Reach and lighter weight.
I must say, I am impressed that it performed as well as it did. Bravo guys!
the top men continuing to build our dream weapon!!!!! yes!!!!!, and theres something about the sounds of armor slowed down thats soooo~~~ saticfying... the clash of metal on metal... the strength, the security, and perminance... oh yeah~ 20:03
Wow genuinely happy that shad finaly found a sponsor
So cool! Love watching you guys problem solve the design in real time!
It’s great to see how far this channel has expanded and all the amazing things you guys have made since. Keep up the great work guys, whether it’s informative videos, or testing projects like this; your content is always getting more impressive by the day.
Agreed. This channel is a great part of my life for sure.
One thing you could do for the blades is using bandsaw blades. They're really long, and really thin. They would probably be better for filling our more of the blade, and using fewer sections.
I hope more of us mention bandsaws, hopefully it will have a better chance of shad seeing one of the replies.
@@DH-xw6jp I'll be sure to upvote the ones I find.
You could sharpen the blades while they are in the band saw too just by holding a stone to it