The sword from harry potter is a based on a real sword though it is hilarious how late 12h century Hunting sword is depicted as an 8th or 9th century Anglo-Saxon weapon by JK Rowling. the one depicted is a 16th Hunting swords that are basically enlarged single handed Poignard daggers existed. Mainly used by nobility or merchant class in social hunt these swords were common but were used in hunting not to mention self-defence as they can take down a boar or a wolf so a man is easy enough. No recorded instance of it's use in war that I know of; but I'm sure someone used a hunting sword in a pinch. Very much French style of hunting sword though a tad to ornate so a 9/10. Not my choice of side arm but they were a thing!
You should know Poniards are the grandfather of fighting knifes & both with training are more lethal then a sword. Hunting swords of the Poniard or knightly dagger shape enlarged are very much lethal though often to ostentatious for my liking. I prefer a large long dagger to about just over a cubit in length maximum of about 20 odd inches; give or take. Honestly 8 to 28 inch blade is optimal for close quarter fighting so a long dagger to short sword range & a hunting sword is typically 3 feet long in blade hitting that point of to long for close quarters & not long enough for duel or mounted. Good against a wild animal as it will go deep enough with some clearance from the user & creature in question but I rather a lugged spear or something that can cleave like a kopis or kurki. lopping of parts is an immediate effect unlike piecing-plunging blades as that shived will struggle but no limbs or head from a hacking chopper then you get no complaints.
The Blade sword little blades only come out after a very LONG winding down of the spring it sort of spins like a clock face very slowly , very little chance of it just springing out.
@@arnijulian6241 Ngl tho still one of the sexiest fantasy sword designs in my personal opinion. Very simplistic, yet ornate and stylized. A fantasy sword that imo looks like it could've existed in history and tbh the only one I'd want to own irl.
Conan’s sword was a one-handed sword for a giant king/lord of ancient Atlantis, from whom his people descended. Note how much larger the skeleton is than Conan. It harkens back to the story his father told him. He just requires both hands to wield it effectively because the Cimmerians are greatly diminished in stature from their ancient ancestors.
@@Dunybrook I wouldn't call it magic. His people just got shorter. How big is that Skeleton? If its not too big, say 8ft then it could be perfectly reasonable for him to have such ancestors. Its its above 9 than yeah sure. Conan is 6ft for measure.
The work Weta did on the Lord of the Rings weapons is easily the gold standard of fantasy swords for me. They're all totally functional designs while still having that fantastical flair. Main thing I would change about them would be giving the elven two handed swords longer blades. The dwarf weapons in the Hobbit are terrible though.
Regarding the light sabre I think the entire concept we cannot rate in this world right now. I think that how it's supposed to work is that its heat is only present inside the "blade" area, that some kind of force field is containing most of the energy so you don't burn anything until you bring it inside this force field. The force field would also explain the impact part.
One version that explained lightsabers (before Shitney ruined it all) said that a lightsaber was very energy efficient, that all energy and heat was redirected and repurposed into the battery. The Only way that energy was lost was if the blade came into contact with something physical enough to agitate the forcefield and cause that part to release the energy. Meaning radiation heat and energy would not be an issue at all for the wielder unless they were stupid enough to use a lightsaber without training and cut themselves with it. If you take away the magic of a lightsaber then I agree that the entire concept of it becomes unratable. The technology is non existent. Can not rate with real world logic if it does not even have a base of existence in reality.
you actually wouldnt even nead to worry about heat that much if it isnt actually the heat cutting things. So imagine instead of plasma or lasers or something, the lightsaber blade was made of say 10 or so individual nanomolecular collumns of phase locked photons. By having 10, you could creat a recursive sistem that prevented interfierance allowinng it to deflect photonic radiation and possible even bind against other light sabers. If what I said is confusing, imagine green lantern's hard light constructs, but instead of a gatling gun or sometning, he creates columns of hard light the width of a single photon and just starts swinging them around slicing throught everything. Have ten of those arranged in a conical shape and give it a tad more juice to radiat some heat and now you have a weildable weapon that explains every observable atribute of standard lightsabers while ALSO being able to explain exoctic sabers such as whips. It would also lend more creedence to the use of nonomolecularly edged vibroblades as both a precursing technology, and a training tool to introduce people to the concept of the lightsaber.
It's been a _long_ time since I read anything Conan, but if I recall his Atlantean sword was originally a greatsword, but the blade had broken so it was reshaped and rehilted to be an arming sword. But the Atlanteans were also in the range of 2 to 3 meters tall, so for modern Cimmerians like Conan who, although giants of men, are much smaller in stature than the ancient Atlanteans, it's still a big two-hander. The starmetal sword Conan used against the Serpent-men in the 1992-93 animated series "Conan the Adventurer" was quite similar in general design to Lion-O's Sword of Omens, though. Lightsabers canonically (or perhaps not anymore, thanks to Disney) do have a force field around the blade. In one of the novels (I'm fairly sure it was "Shadows of the Empire", which takes place between "Empire Strikes Back" and "Return of the Jedi") when Luke was on Tatooine building his lightsaber, the first thing he did after igniting it was to make sure there wasn't any heat coming from the blade, because if there was then that meant there was a problem with the containment field, and fixing it would entail taking the entire saber apart and starting over.
Inigo Montoya's sword from "The Princess Bride." As put by the Man in Black "I've never seen its equal." Sting from Lord of the Rings. Gandalf's Glamdring.
I guess this is the thread for suggestions: 1. Excalibur; aka the Sword of Promised Victory, this time from Fate - Stay/Night (There are so many Excaliburs! There's even one from Thundercats; it defeated the sword of omens.) 2. Zangetsu / Tensa Zangetsu; sword of Kurosaki Ichigo from Bleach in its Shikai and Bankai forms. 3. Crom's Falchion from Fire Emblam 4. Key Blade from Kingdom Hearts :lol: 5. Exile Greatsword from Dark Souls III.
Genuinely surprised Shad didn't include the sword from his own books. The replicas are hanging right there in the center of the entire video. I guess it'll have to wait for the next one
He did say it was most popular pop culture swords, not saying tbat plenty of people don't know about those swords and his books but way more people know the ones they mentioned
He has a few older videos specifically discussing it's specifics...and this one also removes the entire thing that makes it functional, namely, the magic part.
The most powerful sword is a Zelda legends sword ... It is soooo powerful that even possession of a 6in plastic version is enough to get you locked up for 4 months in the UK. Imagine the power of a full sized metal one!
Sword ideas for another list: the McLeod family sword from Highlander, Star Sword from Bravestar, and here is a crazy one, scale down the Blazing Sword from Voltron
You forgot Long Claw! I always like it better than Anduril. In the GoT books it seems like Ice is considered too big for battle, but in HotD we see Cregan stark carrying it on his back at the wall and the Starks of that time used it in battle!
So funnily enough, even in Beserk itself the only magical property of dragonslayer is that it can harm demons and ethereal beings. Beyond that it's canonically just a hunk of Iron, the whole fact that the sword should be completely unwieldable is even went over in the series. It's just guts is so stupid angry and strong that he can swing it around with ease. No magic or anything, it is literally just a hunk of Iron the main character is stupidly strong enough to swing.
I absolutely love berserk for that, and how they nail it even harder with the fact that most other humans fight in a very practical way, going for gaps in the armor etc. Hell even guts does sometimes like one fight he didn't have his sword while fighting an armored opponent and wedged the sword he had into the gauntlet of the guy and leveraged it against his neck to bring him to the ground
On the design of Anduril. There is a reason why the handle ends so soon. Elendil was nearly 8 feet tall (7’11”). Dude was massive, and this was actually meant to be a hand and a half sword for that giant. It’s like if someone had made a hand and a half for Grutte Pier. It’d be closer to a large longsword/war sword for a normal person of around 6’ (which is where Aragorn stands). Edit: the Grutte pier example is for some real-world, non-lore application.
When it was reforged, though, knowing it would be Aragorn who would wield it, one would think they might take that opportunity to consider making some adjustments and tweaks to suit the current user.
@@GhostBear3067No he’s not. He is literally called Elendil the Tall. You don’t give someone a title like that if he is just average of height among his peers.
I appreciate the distinction between "lifting" and "wielding." It's pretty much what always comes to mind for me when I see the giant maces and war hammers in fantasy vs. how small they usually were in real life.
Here's two obscure ones nobody talks about: The Sword of Martin from Redwall (there are two versions, the book and show versions look entirely different from each other), and Dyrnwyn from The Chronicles of Pridain and/or The Black Cauldron!
Quick thing about the light saber, I am a TIG welder and I'm constantly around hot and melting steel, the torches i use can melt steel in an instant so its easily above 2800F and the torch is water cooled so it never actually heats up, and its all made of plastics and rubber gasketes around the copper fittings. If my torch can be cold enough to handle barehanded i think that in the few thousands years of technological advances in the starwars universe that lightsabers would be able to contain the heat well enough to handle like how the jedi do in the movies.
When I think on Lightsabers in combats, then I think at first on the eyes. Its to bright and dazzles the eyes. People would need helmets to wield them.
@@lucymiau5700 Also I think a lot of things would explode quite a bit more dangerously than just sparks. Possibly a lot of molten metal and other material, toxic even, flying everywhere which would be dangerous to both the target and the user. I wonder if the thing itself becomes a danger just to turn on in enclosed spaces.
Day 2 of asking: I got a question. A modern soldier’s worst nightmare is clearing houses and CQB. How did medieval soldiers clear houses? (weapon manipulation, tactics of it) I saw Daemon try to clear Harrnehal in HoD. He was manipulating his sword similar a rifle when clearing the hallway which seemed silly. I’m a marine myself and like to study how room clearing has evolved over time.
I've never thought of this before, but now that you mention it I'm interested too. Sadly, I think the above replies might be correct a lot of the time, but as a matter of course there were instances of soldiers and/or leaders in older times trying to avoid unnecessary killing. One point Shad has made repeatedly (especially in his older videos) is that medieval people were just people, and therefore would think about and attempt the same things we do today.
I think the biggest concern for clearing a room in medieval times would have been someone hiding around the corner. Bows weren't really used in enclosed areas and crossbows were rather expensive, so it's not like modern clearing where every angle is potentially dangerous. Clearing a castle, a smart defender will try to bottleneck you in a hallway rather than lay an ambush in a bedroom. In a hut or hovel you didn't have to worry about projectiles. If you could enter shield first you could protect yourself from a surprise attack, but if you were lightly equipped, the biggest concern was likely right when you enter the room. Also, I saw the same kind of modern room clearing in the most recent Robin Hood remake. watching a group of people walking with bows at full draw as if they were holding M4s was so ridiculous I stopped watching.
I had that sword as a kid. Would light up and make sound and everything. Coolest thing ever until it broke in half (turns out it was not as strong as an actual sword)
20:03 Figured it'd be important to note: the Sword of Gryffindor was made for people of the smol category. Neville was supposed to be shorter in the books, but his actor became an entire unit, so they had to upscale the prop
@@ARabidPiethank you for saying that. For the life of me I never considered that and It was right Infront of me for years. Sword of Gryffindor always looked off to me when the chamber of secrets film came out and feel dumb for not seeing it sooner.
The sword of Gryfindor is a ceremonial sword. It doesn't have an edge. Yes, you can thrust with it but that's about it and that's assuming it stand up to combat structurally
🗡Strongly disagree with Lightsaber analysis. You really need to look at it from within the Star Wars universe, not a "how could we build one in the real world?", originally the blade was explained as a laser that the hilt somehow folds the beam back on itself, not plasma. BYou should discuss its function based on how it works on film, not on some extreme blow torch a youtuber invented. At the end of the day, its difficult to really compare the lightsaber to a real sword - kinda like bringing a sword to a gun fight, one totally outclasses the other.
I think the point of the argument that “the reverse blade sword was designed that way to stop him from killing,” the argument is it was designed to be bad, and kenshin would agree it’s below average on purpose.
Interestingly... Kenshin actually uses it as a sword breaker a few times by slashing like a normal Katana... but doing so to intentionally hit the sharp edge of the opponent's blade with the spine of his blade. Which... he does rather rarely.
I am wondering if someone else with a remembrance of Thundercats might have made this connection in the Rise of Skywalker... hear me out... Ancient black pyramid. (on 3rd Earth and Exegol) Shriveled up old wizard. (Palpatine and Mum-ra) Ancient forces of evil (dark side of the force) "Transform this decayed form... into Darth Sidious, The. Ever. Living!" (somehow palpatine returned) Jedi, Jedi, Jedi Knights, ho.... (lightsaber grows with each word :p ) Ok, that's enough of that. (oh, Snarf-3pO, Kyon-lo Ren, Pumi-rei, Mace Panthro...) Ok ,I'll stop now.
Bit of info on the Conan Atlantian sword. In the lore, Conan's sword was relic of long lost atlantis, and was once a greatsword. The blade had broken and been rehilted and reshaped by a previous owner.
Blizzard actually had replicas of Frostmourne made, if you ever wanted to find it for a reference. The real reason swords in games are so thick comes down to one thing: pixels. In the 90s and 00s, resolution wasn't the greatest. They wanted a design the players would want to get in the game; so they were all designed as thick boys. That, and Warcraft was originally modeled to be Warhammer; but the deal fell through with Games Workshop, so they made Warcraft.
Tabletop minatures have the same issue. Real-life accurate models lead to really small features. First of all, it's just hard to manufacture cheaply. Then, it's not easy to see identifying traits on an army of tiny models when they aren't exaggerated excessively. Lastly, if thin, unsupported bits like swords were the proper width when scaled to a 6 inch plastic minature, then the thing would snap off from the force of gravity alone before we even talk about being jostled by human hands. This is the main reason why minature companies like GW have utterly absurd proportions to weapons/armor/etc.
Even today resolution issues still exist for properly proportioned swords. As the camera zooms out, at a more reasonable distance you might be, the edge of a blade could easily get anti-aliased out of existence even at 1440p. Most games are still made for 1080p in mind too, which we had in the 00's, they just weren't super common. I have a VGA 4:3 Monitor from like 2000 that actually has enough pixels that it is on the verge of "HD" standard, which is 720p. At 1080p, you NEED to have way more thickness to make the weapons look good. There are also concerns about performance, the smaller and more detailed something is the more vertexes you need to make it. Having a thicker blade is simply easier to model, render, and texture.
As a kid, after seeing starwars 4 in theater, many years ago when I was but a wee lad, and there was no cannon, this was how I thought light sabers worked: 1 they have deflector shields on space ships. 2 "blade" extends when turned on. 3 it is a force shield beam, very thin, and vibrating at a gazillion Hz, so fast the air gets heated and plasmarized, it saws through stuff like a wire saw does nearly instantaneously. The "light" is just a side effect of the cutting at super speed heating the air, not what cuts.
I have two swords to suggest. Both from the same source. First, the Star Saber. It's a mystical blade that first appeared in Transformers: Armada. The version I'm thinking of however, is from seasons 2 and 3 of another series called Transformers Prime. The other blade I'd like to suggest is literally its evil counterpart and called the Dark Star Saber, from the same two seasons of Transformers Prime.
I think the issue is downscaling would be a nightmare, obviously real world people couldn't hold a saber meant for giant transforming sentient bio robots. Plus if we are specifically using the prime versions (since the armada version is essentially just having a mini-transformer to hit people with, which would just be a worse case of the dragon slayer). The dark saber and a lot of cybertronian weaponry would run into similar issues to lightsabers. Especially since you'd have to scale it off optimus/megatron, who are both taller and smaller than lots of other transformers.
I laughed at the lightsaber discussion. Let's strip away all the magic but allow for sufficiently advanced technology that is indistinguishable from magic.
Michio Kaku came up with a design for a real plasma sword that would be feasible within the century. Most of the technology exists except for the power source and EM field containment, and both of those are in early R&D currently. That being said, any technology involving powered systems should be barred alongside magic for this to be fair IMHO :)
Stormbringer from the Elric series. Glambering, Galdalf's sword from Lord Of The Rings. Sting from The Hobbit. Longclaw, Jon Snow's sword from Game of Thrones. The Heron Mark Sword from Wheel of Time. The Green Destiny, from Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon. Inigo Montoya's Rapier, from The Princess Bride. Who's with me?
@@phukyerpheefees yes it contains the heat as well. When we see Qui-Gon trying to melt the blast door, he is using The Force to partially dissipate that containment field and allow the heat of the blade to melt the material of the door.
@@phukyerpheefees If the heat was not contained, the second Luke ignited the lightsaber in the Wampa cave on Hoth, he and the creature would be drowned in the melted pool of water the cave turned into and then frozen solid inside it when it quickly refroze in the blizzard conditions of the planet that night.
VAE VICTIS! Yeah the soul reaver is my favorite I actually have a 3d print of it I made its not a bad sword. The blade is chunky because I had to expand it to fit a .5 Bar as a spine for the prop but the actual blade would be a lot thinner then my recreation. The Handle despite being round actually does fit well in the hand and doesnt turn easily I think its because of the spiral cut on the handle. The Guard is big but lifted enough swinging it doesnt impede my motions and its shape does mean it can actually be used as a guard. The One I have is closer to the soul reaver 2 version in both length and how the skull guard is set up. Handle is longer by my design so it can be used 2 handed but weight and balance its not bad swinging one handed.
Daemon Targaryen's Dark Sister is one of the best swords I've seen in both design and practicality. It's made of Valyrian steel which was forged in the Ancient freehold of Valyria using magic and dragon fire. It's one of the only materials in the world of ASOIAF that can kill the white walkers. Might not be the most popular but darn it's badass looking and my favorite fantasy sword so far.
The lightsaber depends on how it works, what type of media is transferring the energy and such. You can hold your hand right next to a laser that can cut steel without feeling anything. Also an acetylene torch straight up in the air doesn't give much heat to the sides, it's when you start cutting steel or welding that the heat builds up and reflects back to you. A piece of red hot iron radiates(notice radiates) much more heat as it's much more massive than the flame on a torch.
Yea.... that is the Fish in da Tank... Nowdays "we" say, it is an Plasma-Beam... But back in the Days... It was an "LASER"-Beam, shooting out of the Handel, refekting itself at Top and going back into the Handel...
It also depends on Jedi wielding it though. Nobody else is using that to dodge and block shots to make a lightsaber useful. Anyone wielding one just has a Giant Light showing where they are.
Demolition Ranch made a copy of the giant sword from one of the Final Fantasy video games. He got either Eddie Hall or the Mountain to come out and try to use it. Those guys are the strongest man World champions too. They had an issue with it because of its weight and shear cumbersome.
The video I want to see is what each of you guys would use to keep your heads if you were immortal (Highlander universe). With Henry Cavil coming out with a Highlander movie, that's what I want to see.
Here's a couple more swords you could consider for future videos - Geralt's swords (steel and silver) from the Witcher - Shalamayne from World of Warcraft (single and dual-wield) - Ashbringer from World of Warcraft - Blades of chaos from God of War - Minecraft sword - Arya's Needle from game of thrones - Ichigo's shikai sword from bleach - Renji's shikai sword from Bleach - Shunsui's shikai swords from Bleach - ODM swords from Attack on Titan - Inosuke's swords from Demon Slayer - Kirito's swords from Sword art Online - Daedric, Falmer, Orcish, Ebony, and Glass swords from Skyrim - Sting, frodo/bilbo's sword from Lord of the Rings - Uruk-hai sword from Lord of the Rings - Thranduil's sword from the Hobbit - Nero's Red Queen sword, from Devil may Cry
- Thunderfury ! (Warcraft) - Singing Sword and Excalibur from Prince Valiant (comic version, not the ones you can buy) - Green Destiny (Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon) - Game of Thrones Swords (Needle, Oathkeeper, Longclaw, Widows Wail, Dark Sister, Blackfyre, Dawn, Heartsbane, Drogo Arakh, Gregor Clegane's...) - Sword of Athena (Wonder Woman) - Maximus Gladius (Gladiator 1) - Achilles Sword (Troy) - Leonidas Sword (300) - more LotR swords (Witch King's, Eomer's, Bard's, Thorin's, Hadhafang...) - Zorro's ! - Robin Hoods (old one and the one of Robin Hood by R. Scott) - Ragnars Sword (Vikings) - Deadpools (Marvel) - Xena - Kingdom of Heaven (Ibelin, Saladin) - hundreds of 40k swords, thausands of weapons...guardian spear ! ... can easily make a part 2 & 3
One thing to remember about Anduril's size is that it's essentially the same size as Narsil, which was made for the either a Numenorean Lord or a High Elven Lord. And those dudes were *tall.*
Well, I just learned that the sword tattoo I have is actually Excalibur. Not what I was expecting, but also not disappointed. Hope this series keeps going
Great video, you should do next: the macleod sword "connor macleod", Long claw from "GOT", The Glamdring from Lord of the Rings, and buster sword from final fantasy
In defense of the Sword of Gryffindor, it is a sword of Goblin make, so it being short makes sense. Edit: Someone in my replies suggest it might also have resizing magic applied to it, which fits why it looks like a toothpick the first time we see it, then a respectable length for a sword the next.
There is lore saying it was made for him, though there is also lore saying he stole it from goblins. Godrick was always described as tall and strong, and he was supposedly a good swordsman, so it would be odd for someone of his physical stature to commission a sword so small and light a child could comfortably use it, instead of something that lets him use his reach advantage.
@@Apathy293 Actually the sword WAS his. In the Goblin society when they make something the person who orders it only owns it as long as they live when they die ownership reverts to the goblin maker. The goblins see him not allowing the sword to come back to them as him stealing it. So both sides are correct from their culture views. As for it the Sword is also magical when it kills something stronger then the sword it absorbs that strength hence why it gained the venom. . Resizing magic is fairly common in the books so its not unreasonable that shrinking or growing the blade might be a magic that blade has. And for a good swordsman that is a deadly thing being able to magically adjust the length and reach of your blade at will. So the sword might adjust its self normally to best fit its user at the time and Harry doesnt shrink or grow the blade simply because he is unaware of that magic on it.
@@revanninja To note the resizing thing, it fits why it looks like a toothpick while in young Harry's hands, while looking like a rightly sword while in Longbottom's hands.
@@revanninjaWell, this can be a nice fan explanation, but is never stated in the books because the author never cared about the functioning of swords, it was just a nice object linked to the plot But it could be a nice theory for the films specifically And, if I'm not wrong, in the films they made a bigger prop, but Daniel Radcliffe felt it was too big and heavy, so they ended up with what we see in the finished product
To add a bit of context, Godric Gryffindor was born around the end of the Viking Age, so, if he commissioned the sword, we can assume it was at least similar to a sword of his age, maybe a bit more similar to an arming sword with Anglo-Saxon flavour in the ornaments since is stated he was a skilled duelist but he didn't use a shield like was common in that age (this because he was a wizard and because Rowling is not a historian, so she don't know how things worked at those times, she has a stereotypical view of the middle ages I think), so maybe we can speculate he had a hilt designed to be more protective than the typical "viking sword" Obviously this is all a fun speculation based on the historical data we own plus the (potentially historical-lacking) lore given by the author.
Guts' dragonslayer. In universe quote regarding it "That thing was too big to be called a sword.Too big, too thick, too heavy, and too rough, it was more like a large hunk of iron"
Love your work. On the subject of Lightsabers, my nerdyness might be bigger. The "blade" is an energy beam, arcing in such a tight parabola, that it actually returns to its point of origin at the hilt's emitter. The emitter has an integral "superconductor" to absorb the returning energy, recharging the power cells while preventing thermal meltdown. This information was found in pre-Disney-buyout novels.
There's a fan theory that The Sword of Griffondor sizes its self for the wielder, so Harry is like twelve when he wields it so the sword makes itself smaller so he can still use it effectively.
I think Tyranth is right about the Lightsaber being something they can't rate due to how many theoreticals they needed to just make it function realistically. Instead of a zero, it should be an NA.
I’m still with you shad, for over 5 years you’ve expanded my knowledge on weapons and armor infinitely in an enjoyable and entertaining manner. You guys are great. Godspeed
The Uruk hai looks scary but face it-it’s an oversized kitchen cleaver at best. Only one edge and probably has pretty shitty edge geometry. The hook is interesting but probably could be used only once before the blade fails or shatters.
Some suggestions for pt.2: - El'druin from diablo ( could also do solarion, even though its a spear). - the buster sword from final fantasy. - trunks sword from DBZ. - Soul edge from soul calibur. - El zorro's rapier. - Rebellion from devil may cry. - Alucard's sword from catslevania. - Mulan's sword (animated movie). - peter pan's sword from the movie hook. - the cane sword from kingsman. - prince nuada's sword from hellboy2 Interesting video! Really enjoyed the conversation.
I think the thing about the lightsaber is that the shielding that keeps it from just expanding forever as long as the power can sustain itself is that it also keeps the heat trapped in the blade area or at least in a VERY VERY close range, which is why it's just a flash cut through anything and doesn't burn the user just holding it. Decades and DECADES beyond out time, but the idea that it's possible to do a mock up of it with a controlled length and relatively similar "cutting" ability I think means it's not exclusively fiction for it to exist at some point in the future. Another part for this I think would be fun, including stuff from less highly known stuff like Eragon's sword and Percy's sword from Percy Jackson and the Olympians.
Sadly, while the Soulsborne games are iconic as defining a genre within video games, they're also probably a little too niche for being infamous over their difficulty.
My favourite is the Sommerswerd from the Lone Wolf series of books. It has a very sensible but beautiful design and also takes the sun being a deadly laser to a whole other level.
In terms of the lightsaber, they're supposed to be a closed circuit, as in they don't radiate any heat. In other words, they're only hot on contact and not on proximity. Taking that in mind I can see them at a 10/10.
Agreed. If you use the canon of the movies, they don't do any heat or require any gear. Taking out the magic means the force, so no bolt deflection or telekinesis to throw or pick up, but as it is in the movies, it will cut through any other weapon or armor and not need anything else. So yeah, 10/10.
@@valrond Bolt deflection would be possible without the Force, as Mythbusters had tested that using the speed of blaster bolts as shown in the movies. It would also still be possible via dumb luck. Or you get an Equilibrium-style "mathematically predicted assault" that would enable it.
@@valrond There are some materials they can't cut through and for some it takes them a while. Still a very good weapon. Also no edge alignment required.
My head, canon is that lightsabers use a heat shield like Mustafar to keep the heat inside the blade, but it allows physical objects to pass through and get incinerated.
So from what I understand on my lore dives of Harry Potter the Sword of Gryffindor has a spell placed on it that allows it to change its size. Thus this magic causes the sword to become the size needed for the wielder to actually be able to wield it properly.
Guts's Dragon Slayer is tricky because at fist glance it appears to be a solid chunk of iron, but once you look closer you realize that it's actually partially hollowed out (in the center). The handle is technically a replaceable 243cm long Tang that fits inside the 205cm long blade. whitch acts as a sheath held together by a holder pin at the base of the blade.
Admittedly I haven't really watched Thundercats. Despite that, Sword of Omens is still one of, if not, my favorite name for a sword. Weapon of the heroes, yet carries a sense of foreboding.
I think a fair thing to consider with thick guards and pommels, specially the ones that look like brinze casting, is that they could be made hollow, making them way lighter than what their exterior profile would suggest
One of the original concepts of the Lightsaber, which was dropped when the Prequels came out, is that the handles are supposed to be abysmally heavy and difficult to hold, akin to holding a solid block of tungsten, with the "blade" creating thrust which the wielder has to actively fight against to keep it in their hand. Even just keeping a lightsaber activated was supposed to take an absurd amount of effort unless one is exceptionally gifted, although the original trilogy only showed 4 people wield lightsabers, Luke, Obi-Wan, Han, and Vader, with Han being to only one who struggles to use Luke's lightsaber. Unfortunately Star Wars has very few examples pre-Disney of non-force users wielding lightsabers, and post-Disney multiple characters hold them with little to no effort.
One book I've read had a sword named Simulacrum, which regularly looked like a wooden sword toy, but in every situation needed morphed into most appropriate (in a metanarrative sense) weapon or tool, often to a wielder's surprise.
Anduril may be my favourite sword design from modern media, closely followed by Altairs sword from assassins creed. I'd love to get the decent battle ready version of it but I can't justify dropping a grand on something that will just be for display.
Actually, I just had a thought on the topic of the lightsaber: I think everyone has been categorizing them the wrong way as a 'beam of raw heat and plasma'. In terms of Star Wars lore the precursor to the lightsaber was the vibroblade, i.e. a high-frequency blade. Logistically speaking the lightsaber should just be an evolution of that concept, that is to say a containment field which excites and vibrates atoms at such a rapid rate that they are able to tear things apart on contact the way a high-frequency blade would. This would generate heat, but not in the manner that everyone keeps expecting them to. They also aren't melting objects or igniting them, they are shredding them on the atomic level while also igniting their surroundings on a smaller scale. This would also explain why they are able to clash with other lightsabers, as it is effectively just vibration hitting vibration and being deflected.
My take on the lightsaber is an electrified monofilament blade with a magnetically or quantum-entanglement locked tip, that spools in and out of the handle, and the tip acts as a reflector for the laser focused by the kyber crystals. So it would be a laser, hence the burn and light, and the monofilament at the center that acts as a physical blade, and cuts through nearly anything. :)
the smith was ask to make a sword to kill dragons hey did but as a joke hey knew it was way to big to be wielded and when we see the live story of guts we se him wielding swords that ceep getting bigger till u get to the point u almost believe a normal human can wield the dragonslayer its like that joke my father told me get a calf and lift it every day in 2 years u can lift a cow (it doesn't work but u think it should)
My understanding of how lightsaber blades are supposed to work is that the field around them fully conserves the energy they emit except when they cut through something. In other words, the field also keeps heat from escaping. That means that when it cuts through something, the reason it doesn't explode is because it's only hot inside of and touching that field. So, if held in place, it can melt things, but quickly passing through doesn't distribute enough power outside of that field to do explosive damage because the field contains the energy. If they lost energy passively, then they would be useless because they'd run out of power nearly immediately. In legends, the oldest ones required a power pack until the technology to better preserve the energy was perfected.
Technically if you made a spot from laser run up and down fast enough it would look like a blade while not so hot. Core would probably be thinner and there is no real way to make them non sith or blue ones, with a possibility of mace one, but it would be cancer sword more than lightsaber.
More folds are pointless, though, and potentially detrimental. It's part of the "magical katana" trope that more folds = better. And, well, both would be better off using a katana made with modern techniques.
I think it’d be interesting to see this as an S - F tier chart so that you can more easily compare from previous ones and that way you don’t have to do decimals
some off the top of my head - Moonlight Greatsword - Dark Souls Malenia's Katana - Elden Ring Glamdring - LOTR Sting - LOTR Masamune - FF7 Buster Sword - FF7 Gunblade - FF8 Key blade (for fun) - KH Energy Sword - Halo Alucard's sword - Castlevania
Great episode. Fun to discuss. I would suggest a graphical representation of scores next time. People are visual beings, and graphic representation of rating would hit better, in my opinion. But again, great episode. For future swords i would suggest the following: both of the Highlander swords ( Connor's Scottish sword and the Ramerez Katana), Thundar's light sword or whatever it was called, Inego Montoya's sword from Princess Bride, an obscure 80's cartoon called the Golden Lance, great sword from Robin Hood, Prince of Thieves, Zorro sword from that movie with Antonio Banderas, sword from Blackstar, and redesigned He-man sword from the 2002 remake of cartoon.
"It was too big to be called a sword. Massive, thick, heavy, and far too rough. Indeed, it was a heap of raw iron." , just sat in the blacksmith shop until someone came along to kill the demons…one man being GUTS The Black Swordsman
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The sword from harry potter is a based on a real sword though it is hilarious how late 12h century Hunting sword is depicted as an 8th or 9th century Anglo-Saxon weapon by JK Rowling. the one depicted is a 16th Hunting swords that are basically enlarged single handed Poignard daggers existed.
Mainly used by nobility or merchant class in social hunt these swords were common but were used in hunting not to mention self-defence as they can take down a boar or a wolf so a man is easy enough.
No recorded instance of it's use in war that I know of; but I'm sure someone used a hunting sword in a pinch.
Very much French style of hunting sword though a tad to ornate so a 9/10.
Not my choice of side arm but they were a thing!
You should know Poniards are the grandfather of fighting knifes & both with training are more lethal then a sword.
Hunting swords of the Poniard or knightly dagger shape enlarged are very much lethal though often to ostentatious for my liking.
I prefer a large long dagger to about just over a cubit in length maximum of about 20 odd inches; give or take.
Honestly 8 to 28 inch blade is optimal for close quarter fighting so a long dagger to short sword range & a hunting sword is typically 3 feet long in blade hitting that point of to long for close quarters & not long enough for duel or mounted.
Good against a wild animal as it will go deep enough with some clearance from the user & creature in question but I rather a lugged spear or something that can cleave like a kopis or kurki.
lopping of parts is an immediate effect unlike piecing-plunging blades as that shived will struggle but no limbs or head from a hacking chopper then you get no complaints.
you guys missed showing a table with all scores at the end
The Blade sword little blades only come out after a very LONG winding down of the spring it sort of spins like a clock face very slowly , very little chance of it just springing out.
@@arnijulian6241 Ngl tho still one of the sexiest fantasy sword designs in my personal opinion. Very simplistic, yet ornate and stylized. A fantasy sword that imo looks like it could've existed in history and tbh the only one I'd want to own irl.
Conan’s sword was a one-handed sword for a giant king/lord of ancient Atlantis, from whom his people descended. Note how much larger the skeleton is than Conan. It harkens back to the story his father told him. He just requires both hands to wield it effectively because the Cimmerians are greatly diminished in stature from their ancient ancestors.
Exactly why you can't take out the magic from fantasy swords.
@@Dunybrook I wouldn't call it magic. His people just got shorter. How big is that Skeleton? If its not too big, say 8ft then it could be perfectly reasonable for him to have such ancestors.
Its its above 9 than yeah sure. Conan is 6ft for measure.
Exactly. Plus it can be made more practical (eg. cross guard doesn't need to be solid).
For a giant it’s more of a dagger then, or short sword if I’m feeling charitable which I’m not.
It doesn't matter. Conan the one using it in the show not a giant.
They judging its usability in the real world.
The work Weta did on the Lord of the Rings weapons is easily the gold standard of fantasy swords for me. They're all totally functional designs while still having that fantastical flair. Main thing I would change about them would be giving the elven two handed swords longer blades. The dwarf weapons in the Hobbit are terrible though.
Guards on the Elven swords would also be a practical improvement but I understand that they didn't have them for aesthetic reasons.
@@kaltaron1284 I know what you're saying but lots of different sword types have very minimal guards so I don't really consider it much of a problem.
Keep in mind that the Hobbits are technically using daggers that would be about half that size relative to a human.
@@scottybreuer True of Sting and the no-name daggers the other Hobbits used, but Orcrist was made to be more along the lines of an elvish falchion.
Yes. All the yes.
Regarding the light sabre I think the entire concept we cannot rate in this world right now.
I think that how it's supposed to work is that its heat is only present inside the "blade" area, that some kind of force field is containing most of the energy so you don't burn anything until you bring it inside this force field. The force field would also explain the impact part.
One version that explained lightsabers (before Shitney ruined it all) said that a lightsaber was very energy efficient, that all energy and heat was redirected and repurposed into the battery. The Only way that energy was lost was if the blade came into contact with something physical enough to agitate the forcefield and cause that part to release the energy. Meaning radiation heat and energy would not be an issue at all for the wielder unless they were stupid enough to use a lightsaber without training and cut themselves with it.
If you take away the magic of a lightsaber then I agree that the entire concept of it becomes unratable. The technology is non existent. Can not rate with real world logic if it does not even have a base of existence in reality.
you actually wouldnt even nead to worry about heat that much if it isnt actually the heat cutting things.
So imagine instead of plasma or lasers or something, the lightsaber blade was made of say 10 or so individual nanomolecular collumns of phase locked photons. By having 10, you could creat a recursive sistem that prevented interfierance allowinng it to deflect photonic radiation and possible even bind against other light sabers.
If what I said is confusing, imagine green lantern's hard light constructs, but instead of a gatling gun or sometning, he creates columns of hard light the width of a single photon and just starts swinging them around slicing throught everything.
Have ten of those arranged in a conical shape and give it a tad more juice to radiat some heat and now you have a weildable weapon that explains every observable atribute of standard lightsabers while ALSO being able to explain exoctic sabers such as whips.
It would also lend more creedence to the use of nonomolecularly edged vibroblades as both a precursing technology, and a training tool to introduce people to the concept of the lightsaber.
It's been a _long_ time since I read anything Conan, but if I recall his Atlantean sword was originally a greatsword, but the blade had broken so it was reshaped and rehilted to be an arming sword. But the Atlanteans were also in the range of 2 to 3 meters tall, so for modern Cimmerians like Conan who, although giants of men, are much smaller in stature than the ancient Atlanteans, it's still a big two-hander.
The starmetal sword Conan used against the Serpent-men in the 1992-93 animated series "Conan the Adventurer" was quite similar in general design to Lion-O's Sword of Omens, though.
Lightsabers canonically (or perhaps not anymore, thanks to Disney) do have a force field around the blade. In one of the novels (I'm fairly sure it was "Shadows of the Empire", which takes place between "Empire Strikes Back" and "Return of the Jedi") when Luke was on Tatooine building his lightsaber, the first thing he did after igniting it was to make sure there wasn't any heat coming from the blade, because if there was then that meant there was a problem with the containment field, and fixing it would entail taking the entire saber apart and starting over.
They are talking about the movie design of the Conan sword though, not the conceptual idea from the books.
Shad was later found naked in a field muttering the lightsaber is a 10/10 😅
Muttering muntier weeshet 😂
Inigo Montoya's sword from "The Princess Bride." As put by the Man in Black "I've never seen its equal."
Sting from Lord of the Rings.
Gandalf's Glamdring.
More of a letter opener, really.
I have Anduril and Glamdring on my wall. I prefer Glamdring, because I have a thing for leaf blades....
@@christopherdean1326 I love Glamdring. If I could get one sword, it'd be a practical Glamdring.
Princess Bride is a good one. Musketeer sword from the Disney version in the 90s...more...
I guess this is the thread for suggestions:
1. Excalibur; aka the Sword of Promised Victory, this time from Fate - Stay/Night (There are so many Excaliburs! There's even one from Thundercats; it defeated the sword of omens.)
2. Zangetsu / Tensa Zangetsu; sword of Kurosaki Ichigo from Bleach in its Shikai and Bankai forms.
3. Crom's Falchion from Fire Emblam
4. Key Blade from Kingdom Hearts :lol:
5. Exile Greatsword from Dark Souls III.
A sword that I have not seen reviewed would be Navarre's family sword from the movie Ladyhawke.
Thank you! I was going to suggest that one too!
Genuinely surprised Shad didn't include the sword from his own books. The replicas are hanging right there in the center of the entire video. I guess it'll have to wait for the next one
He did say it was most popular pop culture swords, not saying tbat plenty of people don't know about those swords and his books but way more people know the ones they mentioned
He has a few older videos specifically discussing it's specifics...and this one also removes the entire thing that makes it functional, namely, the magic part.
The most powerful sword is a Zelda legends sword ... It is soooo powerful that even possession of a 6in plastic version is enough to get you locked up for 4 months in the UK. Imagine the power of a full sized metal one!
Your joking? Really?
@@gerardjagroo wish I was
Really? The UK is insane. 😂
Count Dankula just talked about that.
I knew I was gonna see something relating to that here
There are literally thousands more fantasy swords so I can see the series going on for a long time
Every Anime swordsman ever
Sword ideas for another list: the McLeod family sword from Highlander, Star Sword from Bravestar, and here is a crazy one, scale down the Blazing Sword from Voltron
I second the Clan MacLeod claymore. I freaking love that sword.
LOVE the idea of Voltron's sword!
You forgot Long Claw! I always like it better than Anduril. In the GoT books it seems like Ice is considered too big for battle, but in HotD we see Cregan stark carrying it on his back at the wall and the Starks of that time used it in battle!
GoT books plural? I thought there was only one Game of Thrones book.
So funnily enough, even in Beserk itself the only magical property of dragonslayer is that it can harm demons and ethereal beings. Beyond that it's canonically just a hunk of Iron, the whole fact that the sword should be completely unwieldable is even went over in the series. It's just guts is so stupid angry and strong that he can swing it around with ease. No magic or anything, it is literally just a hunk of Iron the main character is stupidly strong enough to swing.
That's why it's awesome
Man too angry to obey laws of physics
@@daywither927 right lol. It's why I love guts
It’s why guts is the best character. No hacks, no magic. All raw strength and pure rage fueling him.
I absolutely love berserk for that, and how they nail it even harder with the fact that most other humans fight in a very practical way, going for gaps in the armor etc. Hell even guts does sometimes like one fight he didn't have his sword while fighting an armored opponent and wedged the sword he had into the gauntlet of the guy and leveraged it against his neck to bring him to the ground
On the design of Anduril. There is a reason why the handle ends so soon. Elendil was nearly 8 feet tall (7’11”). Dude was massive, and this was actually meant to be a hand and a half sword for that giant. It’s like if someone had made a hand and a half for Grutte Pier. It’d be closer to a large longsword/war sword for a normal person of around 6’ (which is where Aragorn stands).
Edit: the Grutte pier example is for some real-world, non-lore application.
The sword was made before Elendil , by Telchar . It wasn't made for him.
When it was reforged, though, knowing it would be Aragorn who would wield it, one would think they might take that opportunity to consider making some adjustments and tweaks to suit the current user.
@williammeredith8430 true, but Elendil was also average in height for a Numenorian.
@@GhostBear3067No he’s not. He is literally called Elendil the Tall. You don’t give someone a title like that if he is just average of height among his peers.
Aragorn was 6'8".
I appreciate the distinction between "lifting" and "wielding." It's pretty much what always comes to mind for me when I see the giant maces and war hammers in fantasy vs. how small they usually were in real life.
Here's two obscure ones nobody talks about: The Sword of Martin from Redwall (there are two versions, the book and show versions look entirely different from each other), and Dyrnwyn from The Chronicles of Pridain and/or The Black Cauldron!
Hell yeah. Deep cut reference, I loved the Redwall series.
The Mindsword from Hawk the Slayer.
@@danielbretall2236 Same, awesome series.
Is there an animated film or series of Redwall?!
@@sardomarcrowe5723 There was an animated show years ago, I only saw a few episodes of it. I can't remember if it was good or not.
Quick thing about the light saber, I am a TIG welder and I'm constantly around hot and melting steel, the torches i use can melt steel in an instant so its easily above 2800F and the torch is water cooled so it never actually heats up, and its all made of plastics and rubber gasketes around the copper fittings. If my torch can be cold enough to handle barehanded i think that in the few thousands years of technological advances in the starwars universe that lightsabers would be able to contain the heat well enough to handle like how the jedi do in the movies.
When I think on Lightsabers in combats, then I think at first on the eyes. Its to bright and dazzles the eyes. People would need helmets to wield them.
@@lucymiau5700 Also I think a lot of things would explode quite a bit more dangerously than just sparks. Possibly a lot of molten metal and other material, toxic even, flying everywhere which would be dangerous to both the target and the user. I wonder if the thing itself becomes a danger just to turn on in enclosed spaces.
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Its so hard to rate a lightsaber, if technology is so advanced, perhaps it could contain al its danger till its hitting something.
Yeah but any material touched by it isnt isolated and melts your hand/face. They are cool but stupid af.
Day 2 of asking: I got a question. A modern soldier’s worst nightmare is clearing houses and CQB. How did medieval soldiers clear houses? (weapon manipulation, tactics of it)
I saw Daemon try to clear Harrnehal in HoD. He was manipulating his sword similar a rifle when clearing the hallway which seemed silly. I’m a marine myself and like to study how room clearing has evolved over time.
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Smoke and fire
I've never thought of this before, but now that you mention it I'm interested too. Sadly, I think the above replies might be correct a lot of the time, but as a matter of course there were instances of soldiers and/or leaders in older times trying to avoid unnecessary killing. One point Shad has made repeatedly (especially in his older videos) is that medieval people were just people, and therefore would think about and attempt the same things we do today.
I think the biggest concern for clearing a room in medieval times would have been someone hiding around the corner. Bows weren't really used in enclosed areas and crossbows were rather expensive, so it's not like modern clearing where every angle is potentially dangerous. Clearing a castle, a smart defender will try to bottleneck you in a hallway rather than lay an ambush in a bedroom. In a hut or hovel you didn't have to worry about projectiles. If you could enter shield first you could protect yourself from a surprise attack, but if you were lightly equipped, the biggest concern was likely right when you enter the room.
Also, I saw the same kind of modern room clearing in the most recent Robin Hood remake. watching a group of people walking with bows at full draw as if they were holding M4s was so ridiculous I stopped watching.
That's a great question, I would imagine short swords/half swording
The Movie Willow has 3 swords you could review
Sigh. Everyone wants to dissect light sabers. No one talks about the monofilament blades from Larry Niven's Known Space stories.
Those are alright, but personally I'm more in the mood to talk about the Highmatter blades of Christopher Ruocchio's Sun Eater series.
Thunder. Thunder! THUNDER! THUNDERCATS; HOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!
feel the magic , feel the rush , thunder cats are loose
Man, IDK why, but I love that show, lol. Glad the sword actually kinda holds up, IRL
With each Ho his sword got longer....ah I miss the old adult jokes in cartoons.
I had that sword as a kid. Would light up and make sound and everything. Coolest thing ever until it broke in half (turns out it was not as strong as an actual sword)
Pretty sure the sword was never used to kill or injure any one in the show but it has a lot of awesome powers. 🎉
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Figured it'd be important to note: the Sword of Gryffindor was made for people of the smol category. Neville was supposed to be shorter in the books, but his actor became an entire unit, so they had to upscale the prop
It also makes sense as being an off-hand weapon with your wand in the other hand.
@@ARabidPie I never thought of that, interesting idea.
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I like that 1000x better than it being made by goblins
@@ARabidPiethank you for saying that. For the life of me I never considered that and It was right Infront of me for years. Sword of Gryffindor always looked off to me when the chamber of secrets film came out and feel dumb for not seeing it sooner.
@@ARabidPie I always assumed sword and wand would be like sword and pistol, with the sword in the main hand and the ranged weapon offhand.
The sword of Gryfindor is a ceremonial sword. It doesn't have an edge. Yes, you can thrust with it but that's about it and that's assuming it stand up to combat structurally
Is that from the books? i don't remember that ever being said. I'm not discounting you, just wondering if you can provide a source.
@theraven268 yeah, it's in the book
🗡Strongly disagree with Lightsaber analysis. You really need to look at it from within the Star Wars universe, not a "how could we build one in the real world?", originally the blade was explained as a laser that the hilt somehow folds the beam back on itself, not plasma. BYou should discuss its function based on how it works on film, not on some extreme blow torch a youtuber invented. At the end of the day, its difficult to really compare the lightsaber to a real sword - kinda like bringing a sword to a gun fight, one totally outclasses the other.
It's hard to judge something based on fictional science, of a fictional material, and a fictional energy source.
I think the point of the argument that “the reverse blade sword was designed that way to stop him from killing,” the argument is it was designed to be bad, and kenshin would agree it’s below average on purpose.
Interestingly... Kenshin actually uses it as a sword breaker a few times by slashing like a normal Katana... but doing so to intentionally hit the sharp edge of the opponent's blade with the spine of his blade. Which... he does rather rarely.
Not to mention, with his strength and speed, hitting an opponent with a blunt edge probably does just as much damage as with a sharp blade.
Excalibur, Excalibur from John Boorman’s 1981 classic specifically. Elegant, regal, not ostentatious.
I second that!
Here, here!
Here, here, here!
@@pulverize3 THEREWOLF!
That thing is just gorgeous, and still quite functional looking to boot!
Since you did the Highlander Kurgan sword, you definitely need to review the Clan MacLeod claymore!
"It was too big to be called a sword... Massive, thick, heavy, and far too rough. Indeed, it was like a heap of raw iron."
You get a like just for the Thundercats reference.
By Thundara someone had to
I am wondering if someone else with a remembrance of Thundercats might have made this connection in the Rise of Skywalker... hear me out...
Ancient black pyramid. (on 3rd Earth and Exegol)
Shriveled up old wizard. (Palpatine and Mum-ra)
Ancient forces of evil (dark side of the force)
"Transform this decayed form... into Darth Sidious, The. Ever. Living!" (somehow palpatine returned)
Jedi, Jedi, Jedi Knights, ho.... (lightsaber grows with each word :p )
Ok, that's enough of that. (oh, Snarf-3pO, Kyon-lo Ren, Pumi-rei, Mace Panthro...)
Ok ,I'll stop now.
@@NameNotAChannel Stop trying to ruin Thundercats
@@VidelxSpopovich ... I was showing how much they (DeisneyWars hack writers) pulled from an existing thing...
Impossible, nobody can ruin Thundercats....
Bit of info on the Conan Atlantian sword. In the lore, Conan's sword was relic of long lost atlantis, and was once a greatsword. The blade had broken and been rehilted and reshaped by a previous owner.
when Arnold was doing all the fast flourishes in Conan, he had a Katana.
cool thing about the kurgans sword is it breaks down into pieces
Blizzard actually had replicas of Frostmourne made, if you ever wanted to find it for a reference. The real reason swords in games are so thick comes down to one thing: pixels. In the 90s and 00s, resolution wasn't the greatest. They wanted a design the players would want to get in the game; so they were all designed as thick boys. That, and Warcraft was originally modeled to be Warhammer; but the deal fell through with Games Workshop, so they made Warcraft.
Frostmourne hungers.
Tabletop minatures have the same issue. Real-life accurate models lead to really small features. First of all, it's just hard to manufacture cheaply. Then, it's not easy to see identifying traits on an army of tiny models when they aren't exaggerated excessively. Lastly, if thin, unsupported bits like swords were the proper width when scaled to a 6 inch plastic minature, then the thing would snap off from the force of gravity alone before we even talk about being jostled by human hands.
This is the main reason why minature companies like GW have utterly absurd proportions to weapons/armor/etc.
Even today resolution issues still exist for properly proportioned swords. As the camera zooms out, at a more reasonable distance you might be, the edge of a blade could easily get anti-aliased out of existence even at 1440p. Most games are still made for 1080p in mind too, which we had in the 00's, they just weren't super common. I have a VGA 4:3 Monitor from like 2000 that actually has enough pixels that it is on the verge of "HD" standard, which is 720p.
At 1080p, you NEED to have way more thickness to make the weapons look good.
There are also concerns about performance, the smaller and more detailed something is the more vertexes you need to make it. Having a thicker blade is simply easier to model, render, and texture.
Also wasnt the Lich King a really big guy on top of that? I keep picturing Shaq.
If you're not interested in keeping friends then Stormbringer & Mournblade would be the perfect sword for you.
As a kid, after seeing starwars 4 in theater, many years ago when I was but a wee lad, and there was no cannon, this was how I thought light sabers worked:
1 they have deflector shields on space ships.
2 "blade" extends when turned on.
3 it is a force shield beam, very thin, and vibrating at a gazillion Hz, so fast the air gets heated and plasmarized, it saws through stuff like a wire saw does nearly instantaneously. The "light" is just a side effect of the cutting at super speed heating the air, not what cuts.
I have two swords to suggest. Both from the same source.
First, the Star Saber. It's a mystical blade that first appeared in Transformers: Armada. The version I'm thinking of however, is from seasons 2 and 3 of another series called Transformers Prime. The other blade I'd like to suggest is literally its evil counterpart and called the Dark Star Saber, from the same two seasons of Transformers Prime.
I think the issue is downscaling would be a nightmare, obviously real world people couldn't hold a saber meant for giant transforming sentient bio robots. Plus if we are specifically using the prime versions (since the armada version is essentially just having a mini-transformer to hit people with, which would just be a worse case of the dragon slayer). The dark saber and a lot of cybertronian weaponry would run into similar issues to lightsabers. Especially since you'd have to scale it off optimus/megatron, who are both taller and smaller than lots of other transformers.
I’m writing a fantasy novel about two knights who fall into the rogue and Paladin archetypes. I’m calling it.
Silent Knight, Holy Knight
I laughed at the lightsaber discussion. Let's strip away all the magic but allow for sufficiently advanced technology that is indistinguishable from magic.
Tbh the way in which we are able to utilize the internet is pretty much magic to me so
Michio Kaku came up with a design for a real plasma sword that would be feasible within the century. Most of the technology exists except for the power source and EM field containment, and both of those are in early R&D currently. That being said, any technology involving powered systems should be barred alongside magic for this to be fair IMHO :)
@@BreandanOCiarrai So basically the two things that are missing are two of the most crucial details.
They gave it a 0
Stormbringer from the Elric series. Glambering, Galdalf's sword from Lord Of The Rings. Sting from The Hobbit. Longclaw, Jon Snow's sword from Game of Thrones. The Heron Mark Sword from Wheel of Time. The Green Destiny, from Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon. Inigo Montoya's Rapier, from The Princess Bride.
Who's with me?
Zorro's rapier is #1 for function here.
For Tyranth to have been allowed heat shielding capable of withstanding a "real world" lightsaber, the Dragonslayer should be allowed an exosuit.
In lore, they do have a containment field.
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That contains the plasma itself, not the heat.
@@phukyerpheefees yes it contains the heat as well. When we see Qui-Gon trying to melt the blast door, he is using The Force to partially dissipate that containment field and allow the heat of the blade to melt the material of the door.
@@phukyerpheefees If the heat was not contained, the second Luke ignited the lightsaber in the Wampa cave on Hoth, he and the creature would be drowned in the melted pool of water the cave turned into and then frozen solid inside it when it quickly refroze in the blizzard conditions of the planet that night.
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Yeah, if the movies removed the magic.
We're not talking about in universe, here.
Unnumerated short list of my favourites. The Soul Reaver, Moonlight Greatsword, Master Sword, Ivy's whip sword, and Clair's Claymore in... Claymore.
The Soul Reaver!!!!
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Yeah the soul reaver is my favorite I actually have a 3d print of it I made its not a bad sword. The blade is chunky because I had to expand it to fit a .5 Bar as a spine for the prop but the actual blade would be a lot thinner then my recreation. The Handle despite being round actually does fit well in the hand and doesnt turn easily I think its because of the spiral cut on the handle. The Guard is big but lifted enough swinging it doesnt impede my motions and its shape does mean it can actually be used as a guard.
The One I have is closer to the soul reaver 2 version in both length and how the skull guard is set up. Handle is longer by my design so it can be used 2 handed but weight and balance its not bad swinging one handed.
Daemon Targaryen's Dark Sister is one of the best swords I've seen in both design and practicality. It's made of Valyrian steel which was forged in the Ancient freehold of Valyria using magic and dragon fire. It's one of the only materials in the world of ASOIAF that can kill the white walkers. Might not be the most popular but darn it's badass looking and my favorite fantasy sword so far.
I'm 100% expecting shad to say MY SWORD IMPERIOUS
gotta love a shadiversity upload
The lightsaber depends on how it works, what type of media is transferring the energy and such. You can hold your hand right next to a laser that can cut steel without feeling anything. Also an acetylene torch straight up in the air doesn't give much heat to the sides, it's when you start cutting steel or welding that the heat builds up and reflects back to you.
A piece of red hot iron radiates(notice radiates) much more heat as it's much more massive than the flame on a torch.
Yea.... that is the Fish in da Tank...
Nowdays "we" say, it is an Plasma-Beam...
But back in the Days... It was an "LASER"-Beam, shooting out of the Handel, refekting itself at Top and going back into the Handel...
It also depends on Jedi wielding it though. Nobody else is using that to dodge and block shots to make a lightsaber useful. Anyone wielding one just has a Giant Light showing where they are.
My favorites are the Lady Hawks swords, The Beast Master sword, and the Thunder Cat sword.
Demolition Ranch made a copy of the giant sword from one of the Final Fantasy video games. He got either Eddie Hall or the Mountain to come out and try to use it. Those guys are the strongest man World champions too. They had an issue with it because of its weight and shear cumbersome.
I want to see Shad react to the scissor blade from Kill La Kill.
Or the scissors from Akama ga kill... if we want to see the horror in his eyes.
Nudist beach for life!
You forgot to rate Imperious. You can't just forget your own sword, Shad! =^x^=
Admittedly not the height of pop culture, but we're working on it. Was surprised wasn't included when are a pair on display right there.
I was worried that this is too long , but I didn't even notice until it is over! Very interesting.
The video I want to see is what each of you guys would use to keep your heads if you were immortal (Highlander universe). With Henry Cavil coming out with a Highlander movie, that's what I want to see.
Here's a couple more swords you could consider for future videos
- Geralt's swords (steel and silver) from the Witcher
- Shalamayne from World of Warcraft (single and dual-wield)
- Ashbringer from World of Warcraft
- Blades of chaos from God of War
- Minecraft sword
- Arya's Needle from game of thrones
- Ichigo's shikai sword from bleach
- Renji's shikai sword from Bleach
- Shunsui's shikai swords from Bleach
- ODM swords from Attack on Titan
- Inosuke's swords from Demon Slayer
- Kirito's swords from Sword art Online
- Daedric, Falmer, Orcish, Ebony, and Glass swords from Skyrim
- Sting, frodo/bilbo's sword from Lord of the Rings
- Uruk-hai sword from Lord of the Rings
- Thranduil's sword from the Hobbit
- Nero's Red Queen sword, from Devil may Cry
Khazid'Hea from Forgotten Realms, the sword that has a Love Hate relationship with Drizzt D'Urden.
- Thunderfury ! (Warcraft)
- Singing Sword and Excalibur from Prince Valiant (comic version, not the ones you can buy)
- Green Destiny (Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon)
- Game of Thrones Swords (Needle, Oathkeeper, Longclaw, Widows Wail, Dark Sister, Blackfyre, Dawn, Heartsbane, Drogo Arakh, Gregor Clegane's...)
- Sword of Athena (Wonder Woman)
- Maximus Gladius (Gladiator 1)
- Achilles Sword (Troy)
- Leonidas Sword (300)
- more LotR swords (Witch King's, Eomer's, Bard's, Thorin's, Hadhafang...)
- Zorro's !
- Robin Hoods (old one and the one of Robin Hood by R. Scott)
- Ragnars Sword (Vikings)
- Deadpools (Marvel)
- Xena
- Kingdom of Heaven (Ibelin, Saladin)
- hundreds of 40k swords, thausands of weapons...guardian spear !
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can easily make a part 2 & 3
i'd like them to have a look at tyreals sword from diablo too
One thing to remember about Anduril's size is that it's essentially the same size as Narsil, which was made for the either a Numenorean Lord or a High Elven Lord. And those dudes were *tall.*
They're like 7ft in the books
Well, I just learned that the sword tattoo I have is actually Excalibur. Not what I was expecting, but also not disappointed.
Hope this series keeps going
Great video, you should do next: the macleod sword "connor macleod", Long claw from "GOT", The Glamdring from Lord of the Rings, and buster sword from final fantasy
In defense of the Sword of Gryffindor, it is a sword of Goblin make, so it being short makes sense.
Edit: Someone in my replies suggest it might also have resizing magic applied to it, which fits why it looks like a toothpick the first time we see it, then a respectable length for a sword the next.
There is lore saying it was made for him, though there is also lore saying he stole it from goblins. Godrick was always described as tall and strong, and he was supposedly a good swordsman, so it would be odd for someone of his physical stature to commission a sword so small and light a child could comfortably use it, instead of something that lets him use his reach advantage.
@@Apathy293 Actually the sword WAS his. In the Goblin society when they make something the person who orders it only owns it as long as they live when they die ownership reverts to the goblin maker. The goblins see him not allowing the sword to come back to them as him stealing it. So both sides are correct from their culture views.
As for it the Sword is also magical when it kills something stronger then the sword it absorbs that strength hence why it gained the venom. . Resizing magic is fairly common in the books so its not unreasonable that shrinking or growing the blade might be a magic that blade has. And for a good swordsman that is a deadly thing being able to magically adjust the length and reach of your blade at will. So the sword might adjust its self normally to best fit its user at the time and Harry doesnt shrink or grow the blade simply because he is unaware of that magic on it.
@@revanninja To note the resizing thing, it fits why it looks like a toothpick while in young Harry's hands, while looking like a rightly sword while in Longbottom's hands.
@@revanninjaWell, this can be a nice fan explanation, but is never stated in the books because the author never cared about the functioning of swords, it was just a nice object linked to the plot
But it could be a nice theory for the films specifically
And, if I'm not wrong, in the films they made a bigger prop, but Daniel Radcliffe felt it was too big and heavy, so they ended up with what we see in the finished product
To add a bit of context, Godric Gryffindor was born around the end of the Viking Age, so, if he commissioned the sword, we can assume it was at least similar to a sword of his age, maybe a bit more similar to an arming sword with Anglo-Saxon flavour in the ornaments since is stated he was a skilled duelist but he didn't use a shield like was common in that age (this because he was a wizard and because Rowling is not a historian, so she don't know how things worked at those times, she has a stereotypical view of the middle ages I think), so maybe we can speculate he had a hilt designed to be more protective than the typical "viking sword"
Obviously this is all a fun speculation based on the historical data we own plus the (potentially historical-lacking) lore given by the author.
Lightsabers have nothing on the Eye of Thundera. That bad boy even has arrows beat on range.
Guts' dragonslayer. In universe quote regarding it
"That thing was too big to be called a sword.Too big, too thick, too heavy, and too rough, it was more like a large hunk of iron"
Love your work. On the subject of Lightsabers, my nerdyness might be bigger.
The "blade" is an energy beam, arcing in such a tight parabola, that it actually returns to its point of origin at the hilt's emitter. The emitter has an integral "superconductor" to absorb the returning energy, recharging the power cells while preventing thermal meltdown.
This information was found in pre-Disney-buyout novels.
There's a fan theory that The Sword of Griffondor sizes its self for the wielder, so Harry is like twelve when he wields it so the sword makes itself smaller so he can still use it effectively.
It doesn't though
@@DragoX7 Prove it, its actual size in the book is never specified in text, and its size in illustrations and the film is inconsistent.
I think Tyranth is right about the Lightsaber being something they can't rate due to how many theoreticals they needed to just make it function realistically. Instead of a zero, it should be an NA.
"Answer unclear, come back in 10 years."
I mean...the first thing is "So...do we have any Jedi around?"
A final fantasy swords themed analysis will be nice... I will like to see cloud's sword and some others
I’m still with you shad, for over 5 years you’ve expanded my knowledge on weapons and armor infinitely in an enjoyable and entertaining manner. You guys are great. Godspeed
Green Destiny (Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon)
Sting (LOTR)
Six Fingered Sword (Princess Bride)
Sword of Athena (Wonder Woman)
Sword of Sparta (300)
Uruk hai Sword (LOTR)
Dragon hilted sword of Ramirez/McLeod (Highlander)
Triple bladed sword (The Sword and Sorcerer)
Mongo guard sword (Flash Gordon)
Commander's sword (Steel Dawn)
Dar's sword (The Beastnaster)
Basket hilted sword (Rob Roy)
The Uruk hai looks scary but face it-it’s an oversized kitchen cleaver at best. Only one edge and probably has pretty shitty edge geometry. The hook is interesting but probably could be used only once before the blade fails or shatters.
As a Wheel of Time fan, I'd be disappointed if you didn't include Lan's Sword of the Thousand Lakes.
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Some suggestions for pt.2:
- El'druin from diablo ( could also do solarion, even though its a spear).
- the buster sword from final fantasy.
- trunks sword from DBZ.
- Soul edge from soul calibur.
- El zorro's rapier.
- Rebellion from devil may cry.
- Alucard's sword from catslevania.
- Mulan's sword (animated movie).
- peter pan's sword from the movie hook.
- the cane sword from kingsman.
- prince nuada's sword from hellboy2
Interesting video! Really enjoyed the conversation.
I think the thing about the lightsaber is that the shielding that keeps it from just expanding forever as long as the power can sustain itself is that it also keeps the heat trapped in the blade area or at least in a VERY VERY close range, which is why it's just a flash cut through anything and doesn't burn the user just holding it. Decades and DECADES beyond out time, but the idea that it's possible to do a mock up of it with a controlled length and relatively similar "cutting" ability I think means it's not exclusively fiction for it to exist at some point in the future.
Another part for this I think would be fun, including stuff from less highly known stuff like Eragon's sword and Percy's sword from Percy Jackson and the Olympians.
Moonlight greatsword from Fromsoftware is what pops into mind when I think pop culture swords
No.
@@kevinburke1325 I'll forgive your ignorance.
@Upsilon1984 nope, you are ignorant.
@@Upsilon1984 always has to be one of you soulsborne nuts who knows nothing on here.
Sadly, while the Soulsborne games are iconic as defining a genre within video games, they're also probably a little too niche for being infamous over their difficulty.
The Power Sword, Lightsaber, and Highlander Dragonhead Katanna are my top 3!
I was surprised not to see Hawkeyes Ronan sword. My son got me one for Christmas and it’s a very nice sword. One of my favourite presents.
My favourite is the Sommerswerd from the Lone Wolf series of books. It has a very sensible but beautiful design and also takes the sun being a deadly laser to a whole other level.
In terms of the lightsaber, they're supposed to be a closed circuit, as in they don't radiate any heat. In other words, they're only hot on contact and not on proximity. Taking that in mind I can see them at a 10/10.
Agreed. If you use the canon of the movies, they don't do any heat or require any gear. Taking out the magic means the force, so no bolt deflection or telekinesis to throw or pick up, but as it is in the movies, it will cut through any other weapon or armor and not need anything else. So yeah, 10/10.
@@valrond Bolt deflection would be possible without the Force, as Mythbusters had tested that using the speed of blaster bolts as shown in the movies. It would also still be possible via dumb luck. Or you get an Equilibrium-style "mathematically predicted assault" that would enable it.
@@valrond There are some materials they can't cut through and for some it takes them a while. Still a very good weapon. Also no edge alignment required.
My head, canon is that lightsabers use a heat shield like Mustafar to keep the heat inside the blade, but it allows physical objects to pass through and get incinerated.
They are in contact with AIR. And air is in contact with your skin.
So from what I understand on my lore dives of Harry Potter the Sword of Gryffindor has a spell placed on it that allows it to change its size. Thus this magic causes the sword to become the size needed for the wielder to actually be able to wield it properly.
IIRC, the reason for the egregiously heavy blade was to *_make Arnie's muscles flex and pop as he swung it around._*
Guts's Dragon Slayer is tricky because at fist glance it appears to be a solid chunk of iron, but once you look closer you realize that it's actually partially hollowed out (in the center). The handle is technically a replaceable 243cm long Tang that fits inside the 205cm long blade. whitch acts as a sheath held together by a holder pin at the base of the blade.
Based on the rules of the discussion, I'd say you guys nailed it
Admittedly I haven't really watched Thundercats. Despite that, Sword of Omens is still one of, if not, my favorite name for a sword. Weapon of the heroes, yet carries a sense of foreboding.
I think a fair thing to consider with thick guards and pommels, specially the ones that look like brinze casting, is that they could be made hollow, making them way lighter than what their exterior profile would suggest
I'm expecting Buster Sword to be high up on the list after previous testing with Colossal Swords.
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Yeah, but... Can these swords dodge bullets 😀
I'm sorry, I had to, I love you guys.
"It was too big to be called a sword. Massive, thick, heavy, and far too rough. Indeed, it was a heap of raw iron"
One of the original concepts of the Lightsaber, which was dropped when the Prequels came out, is that the handles are supposed to be abysmally heavy and difficult to hold, akin to holding a solid block of tungsten, with the "blade" creating thrust which the wielder has to actively fight against to keep it in their hand. Even just keeping a lightsaber activated was supposed to take an absurd amount of effort unless one is exceptionally gifted, although the original trilogy only showed 4 people wield lightsabers, Luke, Obi-Wan, Han, and Vader, with Han being to only one who struggles to use Luke's lightsaber. Unfortunately Star Wars has very few examples pre-Disney of non-force users wielding lightsabers, and post-Disney multiple characters hold them with little to no effort.
One book I've read had a sword named Simulacrum, which regularly looked like a wooden sword toy, but in every situation needed morphed into most appropriate (in a metanarrative sense) weapon or tool, often to a wielder's surprise.
Anduril may be my favourite sword design from modern media, closely followed by Altairs sword from assassins creed. I'd love to get the decent battle ready version of it but I can't justify dropping a grand on something that will just be for display.
Actually, I just had a thought on the topic of the lightsaber: I think everyone has been categorizing them the wrong way as a 'beam of raw heat and plasma'. In terms of Star Wars lore the precursor to the lightsaber was the vibroblade, i.e. a high-frequency blade. Logistically speaking the lightsaber should just be an evolution of that concept, that is to say a containment field which excites and vibrates atoms at such a rapid rate that they are able to tear things apart on contact the way a high-frequency blade would. This would generate heat, but not in the manner that everyone keeps expecting them to. They also aren't melting objects or igniting them, they are shredding them on the atomic level while also igniting their surroundings on a smaller scale.
This would also explain why they are able to clash with other lightsabers, as it is effectively just vibration hitting vibration and being deflected.
My take on the lightsaber is an electrified monofilament blade with a magnetically or quantum-entanglement locked tip, that spools in and out of the handle, and the tip acts as a reflector for the laser focused by the kyber crystals. So it would be a laser, hence the burn and light, and the monofilament at the center that acts as a physical blade, and cuts through nearly anything. :)
Look at where he got the antlean sword. It was a Kings burial piece that was made out of something that could resist rust that was on everything else.
Plus it was made for Atlanteans who were supposed to be about a foot or two taller.
The thing about the berserk sword and it being unusable as a human person: that's the point.
the smith was ask to make a sword to kill dragons hey did but as a joke hey knew it was way to big to be wielded
and when we see the live story of guts we se him wielding swords that ceep getting bigger till u get to the point u almost believe a normal human can wield the dragonslayer
its like that joke my father told me get a calf and lift it every day in 2 years u can lift a cow (it doesn't work but u think it should)
You put the Sword of Omens on a thumbnail and I'm gonna watch it
My understanding of how lightsaber blades are supposed to work is that the field around them fully conserves the energy they emit except when they cut through something. In other words, the field also keeps heat from escaping. That means that when it cuts through something, the reason it doesn't explode is because it's only hot inside of and touching that field. So, if held in place, it can melt things, but quickly passing through doesn't distribute enough power outside of that field to do explosive damage because the field contains the energy. If they lost energy passively, then they would be useless because they'd run out of power nearly immediately. In legends, the oldest ones required a power pack until the technology to better preserve the energy was perfected.
A lightsaber could not exist with real physics, but the lore suggests the blade generates at the point of contact.
Technically if you made a spot from laser run up and down fast enough it would look like a blade while not so hot. Core would probably be thinner and there is no real way to make them non sith or blue ones, with a possibility of mace one, but it would be cancer sword more than lightsaber.
Highlander Katana
Fucking A!
Movie: 500 fold blade. Yes! TV show: a standard katana from the 1700s. Eh.
More folds are pointless, though, and potentially detrimental. It's part of the "magical katana" trope that more folds = better. And, well, both would be better off using a katana made with modern techniques.
There can be only one
Mirror of a monster
I think it’d be interesting to see this as an S - F tier chart so that you can more easily compare from previous ones and that way you don’t have to do decimals
The light sabers hot plasma blade has a shielding of cold plasma around it, which keeps in the heat and shapes the plasma.
I'm a big fan of Sulu's retractable sword from the 2009 Star Trek Movie.
some off the top of my head -
Moonlight Greatsword - Dark Souls
Malenia's Katana - Elden Ring
Glamdring - LOTR
Sting - LOTR
Masamune - FF7
Buster Sword - FF7
Gunblade - FF8
Key blade (for fun) - KH
Energy Sword - Halo
Alucard's sword - Castlevania
Crucible Sword - DOOM Eternal
Sword of Light - Dragon Quest series.
Great episode. Fun to discuss. I would suggest a graphical representation of scores next time. People are visual beings, and graphic representation of rating would hit better, in my opinion. But again, great episode.
For future swords i would suggest the following: both of the Highlander swords ( Connor's Scottish sword and the Ramerez Katana), Thundar's light sword or whatever it was called, Inego Montoya's sword from Princess Bride, an obscure 80's cartoon called the Golden Lance, great sword from Robin Hood, Prince of Thieves, Zorro sword from that movie with Antonio Banderas, sword from Blackstar, and redesigned He-man sword from the 2002 remake of cartoon.
"It was too big to be called a sword. Massive, thick, heavy, and far too rough. Indeed, it was a heap of raw iron."
, just sat in the blacksmith shop until someone came along to kill the demons…one man being GUTS The Black Swordsman