I watch hochalaga's videos with my religious grandmother and she hates it but listens to every word he says and occasionally brings out the bible to fact check him. It's a really heartwarming bonding session.
Wait, bring out a bible to "fact check"? I think you need a different phrase there. According to your grandmother, how accurate are hoch's statements about the bible and biblical passages with regards to content?
@@enderblazejames9487 I think most major religions all have some variation of a “great flood” myth, I’m sure there are other similarities between completely separated religions/cultures that are there as well
Heavens Gate didn’t completely disband. They actually still have a website where you can email members. They claim they were “let behind to complete tasks and answer questions”
"left behind to complete tasks and answer questions" you say? RRRRRiiiiiiggggghhhht.... Soooo very sssssssuuuuure of that. . . well then, I guess I'll be on my little mary way then... ....this doesn't leave the room, ok?.... and DON'T tell them this either or anything.... but am actually a group of squirrels all stacked up together wearing a human skin suit. we actually come from another planet seeking a new king that will restore our damaged society... one who will provide many nuts for us as well as a way to bury them in a way where we very evidently will by ANY circumstances NOT be watched... ever. . . for strangers will obviously plunder our riches and take them from us. This Needs to be kept from them because other interstellar traveling species are NOT to be trusted... for if they learn of our mission.... they will come to find our planet and seize our precious nuts from us. the things that there have been many bloody wars fought over for many century's. . . which is also why our society is currently suffering... damage. . . . from. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
@Marshal Marrs I know right? I Imagine if an advanced civilization come to visit us and the leader of these species says: What the f*ck?!? Why you people of earth are so crazy to say these things on us? There are no such things like: green/gray alien, reptilians, Annunaki, nordics, or what else, just you of earth, us, and maybe other spieces, but their are not like those "aliens" that you people believe. We are appeared thanks to Evolution, like you. No one has helped you in the past to develop your civilization, you are the responsible for this. No extraterrestrial civilization visit your planet for years with these so call UFO to study your world, this is the first time of the history that an advanced civilization visit your world. And the stories to kindap people for experiments or other bad things? We are not monsters, we don't kindap species from other planets or our species. This is why we don't visit earth. You humans have too many prejudices about everythings, you are also arrogant and suoerficial. And don't you dare to accuse us to be the responsible of the end of your species, you are destroying yourselfe. And about some humans that say "better to be an animal, because they are more better of the humans", well… they have rights, the animals are better of you humans
I love how respectfully and genuinely curiously approach these subjects no matter how ridiculous they may seem. It's quite the refreshing take just talking about the topic at hand without bashing on other people like so many other youtubers do when they talk about these kinds of things.
I like how Carl Sagan approach this in his book Demon haunted world, in one part of his book he mentions that someone was sending him letters about the dude being an alien, he replied asking math/physics problems that could have been solved already by an advance civilization. He never got another letter again.
The coolest part of that story, is that the letter did not come from ego. He wasn’t trying to disprove a potential fraud. He was trying to learn from a potential one-of-kind opportunity for exchange that was extremely unlikely to occur and if legit, would unlikely occur ever again. Carl Sagan was a true scientist. 👍 Worst case: Fraud gets rekt Best case: We get access to alien knowledge
lol you dont even know dude , this rabbit hole gets so much deeper. i can tell youre at lvl 1. If you want to know more look up the Vril Society. ua-cam.com/video/gme0sJLh5yI/v-deo.html
Cuz nordic people are supposedly more pure alien? While the darker people are more mixed with the native population that was here before supposed nordic aliens came here and mixed with them🗿Yea smt like that
@@arobotwithepilepsie6053 nah, it literally refers to aliens that just happen to look like 6 to 7 foot tall pale, blonde, blue-eyed people. one guy in the 50s said some Nordics picked him up and they had a good time basically. most investigators have concluded that that guy was just a con artist charlatan. and yet Nordics are now part of modern alien race canon, like the greys or reptilians. there's also cat people aliens but i don't care enough about this obvious bullshit to remember what they're called.
Honorable mention: Mormonism. While they don’t actively teach it today, the founders taught that God and Jesus lived on a planet by a star named Kolob and that during the apocalypse (or afterwards?), planet Earth would travel through space until it reached God’s throne near Kolob (or something like that). They even have a hymn called “If You Could Hie to Kolob.” I liked this video but would’ve enjoyed if you went into a little more depth with each religion. Maybe in a future video you could do that or make a separate video for each religion. Thanks for your work!
Also you can upgrade to demi-God level in the afterlife and you get your own planet to mess with. Damn they really do got some appealing points to not male you sin.
The question you have to ask yourself is how did you come to that conclusion, and what made you think that way. You need evidence for such a hypothesis friend. God bless.
I've recently watched videos about 'Unicult', led by a woman named 'Unicole', who claims to be an 'alien in a human body'. This individual has a significant following online. This person consider their actions/behaviours to be a religion. It is fascinating to me just what people will believe in.
Watching current and past events unfold you gotta wonder how far off HG really was, and how truly wild some of these beliefs are when compared to both ancient and modern ideologies of similar kinds.
I remembered that in primary school a classmate told me that I should not believe in aliens, because God exists. My reaction was, what does it have to do with anything? lol The universe is supposed to be infinite and God omnipotent. She didn't like my answer haha. Great video as always, and a super interesting topic. Hopefully you can expand it in the future! On a side note, I always forget to tell you that I love your voice ❤️
@@FlyingAlfredoSaucer Same. I'm religious too but I think I have common sense. It is quite narcissistic to believe that we are the only ones in such a large universe with different worlds that can have their own ecosystem. But this does not affect my faith in God, to whom I am grateful for the blessings I have. I don't think we'll have confirmed contact in this lifetime, but it's fascinating to think about other worlds and species.
@@alxofficial1541 can be, for all we know humans and animals are the only creation mentioned to be created by god in the Bible if ur a Christian buy it isn’t wild to imagine what if god had made other living creature not exactly what we imagine aliens to be. Demons are creatures not exactly humans sooo it’s safe to say there could be others or we are alone in this vast universe. It’s interesting nonetheless
@@tituspaul2345 so when he said let there be light. He was only talking about the light on earth? Wouldn't that be the sun? That would mean God created EVERYTHING! or at the least our Galaxy. Why would we wanna limit ourselves to only life on earth ? Makes no sense to me
Heaven's Gate actually never disbanded, albeit it stopped accepting new members, seeing as it is already too late for the rest of us in their eyes now. Two remaining members stayed behind, and they continue to maintain the website through the TELAH (The Evolutionary Level Above Human) Foundation.
I'm surprised there are only a handful of these "UFO Religions" mentioned in hochelaga's video. I'm not sure this qualifies as a UFO religion but there is this "channel" named Daryl Anka who claims to channel his future self. A being he calls Bashar (who is a hybrid E.T. living on another planet/dimension/and time.) He has a huge following. I'm also surprised Steven Greer (founder of CSETI) wasn't mentioned. Him and his team of UFologists go out and use Hindu mantras and other meditations in order to "summon UFO's" (at least that's what appears to be happening in his documentary.)
my friend were in a meeting and he tapped me on the shoulder and showed me the notification for your new video and we both got excited :> great video as always!! :D
10:23 I generally like Holchelaga's videos and find his pretty even keel tone to be refreshing but I would propose that saying Scientology and Heaven's Gate are comparable to religions like Christianity, Buddhism, Islam, Hinduism, or Judaism is dangerous. Scientology and Heaven's Gate are both cults, dangerous ones at that. The abusive practices of Scientology are well documented. Regardless of whether or not you believe in auditing, the cult like behavior they encourage on their practitioners is not healthy. Similarly, Heaven's Gate required members to cut off contact with their family and indoctrinated their members into committing suicide. Granted that there are dangerous cult offshoots of the mainstream religions, but they are exceptions to those religions. In that light, I'm sure there are many, many more UFO religions out there that are not cults and likewise hate the stigma that Scientology and Heaven's Gate has brought on them. It's those groups that are the more apt comparison mainstream faiths, rather than dangerous cults. I guess what I'm trying to say is: Jim Jones and the People's Temple is to Christianity, what Marshall Applewhite and Heaven's Gate is to UFO Relgions.
The thing is: *today* the mainstream religions we have are more subdued and are not so wacky and cultish like those two, but are we sure this has always been the case? What if the way a religion becomes mainstream is first being super cultish and amassing power, and then after it has stablished itself, slowly become more PG so that it will spread better? I feel like we don't know enough about how religions are born to make a definite guess on this, which is why these UFO religions are interesting subjects to study in the first place. And, second, and perhaps most importantly, the Church of Scientology is known to be very sensitive to their public image and tends to pursue legal action against critics, as well as doing a lot of shady things to silence then, so I think it makes sense for Hochelaga to tiptoe around them when mentioning them.
@@nivircescrittore8304 I disagree, some of the largest mainstream religions have been completely open with their texts and doctrines from the very beginning, Islam and Buddhism for example. Some religions were and still are secretive (to a varying extent) as they weren't supposed to be preached outside of their ethnicity/culture, like Judaism, Druze, Yazidis. The only example of a religion I can think of that started as a cult and then changed to become a more open religion is Christianity (and the various related forms of Gnosticism).
@@theokra Fair enough. I guess being raised christian made me think of them first instead of Islam and Buddhism, that being said, the fact Christianity, the most practiced relligion in the world is the one of the mainstream religions with cultish inceptions still seems significant.
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I've actually read a book written by Raël. Von Däniken's Chariots of the Gods (the gods descending from the sky to teach humanity and help it advance and who are in fact extraterrestrials) was a huge bestseller and Raël obviously wanted to capitalize on that success. I don't think it's a concidence that Raëlism was founded during the 70's when there was quite a lot of interest in UFO's and the paranormal.
The Heaven's Gate is still so fresh in my mind I even remember I just came out of the shower that day to watch news about their su icide. I can't forget it because of the UFO wave that came with the Hale-Bopp comet which many of us saw.
Quite a fascinating subject, even if I don't believe in it! I remember as a young kid seeing an old book someone had about extraterrestrials in the Bible with an eye on the front cover. Anyone remember what that book was called? I seem to recall it was published in 1978.
02:28 cool vid man as always. but I just want to clarify that the sun dog phenomenon is already described in the Nürnberg chronicle in a separate chapter making it an unlikely explanation to the incident. the explanation itself is also not fitting, as sun dog being described as a cross holding sun surrounded by crescent moons.
Would like to see the alleged ancient accounts of alien visitations being adapted into the MonsterVerse (my guess is that Monarch now has a branch that studies extraterrestrial encounters, and some of these sightings were contacts with the MonsterVerse’s version of the Xiliens, the Kilaaks, the M Space Hunter Nebula aliens, the Black Hole Planet 3 aliens, or the Vortaak).
Terrence Mckenna has an interesting concept about what the UFO experience cou'ldve really mean in humanity through psylocibin. He called this The Other, and they reside in this hyperdimension and the psilocybin could be an extraterrestial or an alien.
The tiny wisconsin town I grew up in has a ufo parade every year cause some lady had a bunch of sightings on a hill outside of town. Pretty neat stuff man
I don't find them anymore ridiculous or outlandish than other more popular world religions and I am glad that was addressed. It really is a rebranding that even makes more sense than these established religions in some cases.
i love that some religions are sprung from intentional fiction yet over time has become truth in the eye of the devoted also, heavens gate logo is actually bangin
I had some dealing with Raeilians back in the 90’s. The group was made up mostly of young beautiful women. I’m not sure why that was, but I will admit that did keep me intrigued for a while, even though I thought their whole belief system was too far out for me. They also believed in a lot of touching and hugging. Looking back, maybe I should’ve gone with it.
Because it doesn't fit with your own preconceived notions? Because you're starting with a conclusion and working backwards to try and find "evidence" that seemingly fits?
@@DukeOnkled no. Because its a ridiculous explanation that doesnt even make sense. If you read the original article of the incident you would know that it talks about a massive trianglular aircraft, spheres falling to the Earth in clouds of smoke and many different shapes cylinders, crescents, crosses and spears. Obviously its 1561 so they don't have the proper language to describe what could be alien aircraft. Non of it describes a sun dog even remotely which makes that excuse laughable.
@@alxofficial1541 I'll discount anything that inaccurately or insufficiently describes a certain phenomena, mainstream or not. I agree that the sun dog explanation for Nuremburg is ridiculous given the accounts and the depictions. There's clearly crashed smoking objects like the ones in the sky seen in the painting. While sun dogs DO describe a lot of the stuff you see depicted in biblical paintings of miracles and such, this particular event seems completely unrelated. There isn't even a ring of light depicted anywhere in the sky. To then go and say something like: "See? Maybe think about reality before jumping to conclusions and calling it aliens." is hypocritical. This isn't even in defense of ufos or aliens being the culprit in this Nuremberg case, just of common sense and equality of skeptical rigor. People will go to ridiculous lengths to debunk or explain away something they personally find ridiculous. Typically equally (if not more-so) as ridiculous as whatever theory they find ridiculous. "What could these UFOs be that were tracked by military clocking impossible speeds for any known aircraft that're causing such a ruckus in our national defense programs? That's really strange. Could it be some kind of technology the public and/or military's never seen before?" -> "OmG iT's JuSt A bIrD yA dUmMy aLiEns ArEn'T rEaL! LmAo! bEtTeR fInD yOuR TiNfOiL hAt! LoL!" By their own purported logic, it's should be equally silly to jump to conclusions that, while familiar to us, completely fail as a reasonable explanation for what's observed, as it would be to jump to a more likely, but unconfirmed (advanced tech of some kind), explanation that isn't familiar to us. What they fail or refuse to explain, they'll either ignore, or just settle on an equally ridiculous explanation that just happens to be something regularly observed. Then, they still have enough cognitive dissonance left over to chortle and insinuate you're an idiot for exploring alternative explanations (because you've already done the research to find out if there WAS a simple explanation) that they refuse to consider because they've already determined them to be silly based on "how they feel about it" and congratulate themselves on being "rational". People made fun of explorers coming back from Africa and describing Gorillas. Nobody believed them. People living in Europe had obviously never heard of them or seen them before, except for these "silly stories", and it took a long time for them to become scientifically recognized, despite being observed and reported by "silly sun-sick explorers" for decades. It's beyond me how people can dismiss extraordinary and unexplained things like UFOs and either totally write them off as either totally fabricated and irrelevant to any reasonable public discourse, as if it were a complete non-issue, or they outright betray their own reasoning in favor of overly simple, banal, and inaccurate explanations. That or they just outright ignore it because they don't care. I can at least sympathize with that last reason to dismiss it a bit more, though I definitely don't relate to it. At least they aren't trying to appear smart or superior at the cost of betraying what intelligence they actually have.
My only fear is that we come into contact with aliens now and they’re hostile. In science fiction humanity has already expanded across the stars, yet in reality we’re like babies who’ve just learned to walk still as far as space exploration is concerned. I honestly don’t think we’d survive
You’re confusing Hollywood movies with reality. Humans are as advanced as can be, there’s nowhere within billions of light years where anything else is capable of space travel.
Well, seeing that most major accepted religions have works filled with unidentified flying things and alien beings of one kind or another I really can't agree that this is on the rise. A bit more versions, perhaps, but the same general story. Except for maybe those ones from India which appear to have been written by an early incarnation of Isaac Asimov.
Im surprised you didnt mention Dr. Greer. pretty compelling until I realized it was just some new age religion. I lost my shit when he had someone off the coast fire flares into the air saying he was communicating to them to his little group.
Sad not to see Posadas here though it is a little stretch...perhaps one for a future video?. Also from an academic standpoint, cult isn't a useful term and doesn't have much use or meaning beyond a pejorative description...from an outside perspective most religions can be confortably defamed as a cult and arguments made to discredit their legitimacy on those grounds. Because of it's unclear meaning, genealogy and the emic-etic divide, cult isn't really a helpful term and it's far better when dealing with a religiously inspired group's harmful, toxic or deadly behavior to simply describe it and let it speak in its own terms (Though of course what is included or omitted mean this still requires careful scrutiny).
A term can be useful when you find a unique application. Consider cult as a mini-culture. While a so-called subculture is a culture within a culture, a cult implies such a subculture that is deliberately insular versus a subculture that is not or less so.
In fact, heaven's gate did not technically disband. They still have a couple of members who were chosen to stay behind while the others "transcended". It's their job take care of their affairs on earth, like maintain the website etc.
@@Gnomelander1400 well put. Christianity has the possibility of allowing secularism, which leads to conditions for atheism and free thought. Islam on the other hand.. *shivers* *with* *you*
I'd like to see a piece on the religions that have started with a bright light in the sky. Akhenaten, Saul/Paul, Constantine, all claim to have seen a bright light that spoke to them. These are just the one's I know off the top of my head. There must be others, and are they seeing the same thing? Does the human brain experience the same malfunction under certain circumstances? EDIT: and Zoroaster
Kind of related but you should check out people seeing white light when a near-death experience occurs. You can try to google it, or check it on youtube as well. It is a phenomenon and lots of people who experience them either become religious or have some altered perspective towards life. Because sometimes they see heaven, or hell or some paradise or talk to some entity. My father actually experienced this back then when he got rammed by a car and told me about it, I didn't care about it then, but grown up now, reading more and maturing and now turning a spiritual person after years of Atheism myself after realizations, it is kind of making sense. There really is more to what we know of today.
Saw a Tic Tok bout an alien asking about Jesus, he like "why he so cool?" And human is like "cause he told us to be nice to each other" and the alien like "no one else said that?" And the human like "another guy did" and then the alien asks "what did you do to them?" The humans a little stumped and responds "umm we killed them😬"
consider doing vids on ndes from people who have died throughout history, it goes back further than you'd think, these nde testimonials from heaven/hell are fascinating and always gets downplayed in the mainstream, there are fakes who talk of having dreams in order to get views but the genuine cases are the ones that have officially died and are later resuscitated
I watch hochalaga's videos with my religious grandmother and she hates it but listens to every word he says and occasionally brings out the bible to fact check him. It's a really heartwarming bonding session.
That's a nice anecdote. Thanks for sharing.
:)
Wait, bring out a bible to "fact check"? I think you need a different phrase there. According to your grandmother, how accurate are hoch's statements about the bible and biblical passages with regards to content?
I’m a religious person myself but I love the videos
my grandma would just lecture me about how the bible is always right and nothing else should even be considered.
I'm a biblical literalist and I enjoy his videos
I think the most interesting thing in religious studies is when you see the commonalities between each religion even before mass communication
what do you mean?
@@enderblazejames9487 I think most major religions all have some variation of a “great flood” myth, I’m sure there are other similarities between completely separated religions/cultures that are there as well
muslims believe prophets were sent down to all the people with the same message, then got corrupted u ntill the quraan
Not so much mass communication, as shared origin. The history of homosapiens is that there hasn't really been many homosapiens until very recently.
@@SamPlaysFunGames I believe the Great Flood was a real event that occurred at the end of the last ice age, personally.
Heavens Gate didn’t completely disband. They actually still have a website where you can email members. They claim they were “let behind to complete tasks and answer questions”
Yeah kinda sad how they know they ain’t getting on the ship ( also the ship wasn’t the comet itself allegedly it was catching a ride)
"left behind to complete tasks and answer questions" you say? RRRRRiiiiiiggggghhhht.... Soooo very sssssssuuuuure of that. . . well then, I guess I'll be on my little mary way then...
....this doesn't leave the room, ok?.... and DON'T tell them this either or anything.... but am actually a group of squirrels all stacked up together wearing a human skin suit. we actually come from another planet seeking a new king that will restore our damaged society... one who will provide many nuts for us as well as a way to bury them in a way where we very evidently will by ANY circumstances NOT be watched... ever. . . for strangers will obviously plunder our riches and take them from us.
This Needs to be kept from them because other interstellar traveling species are NOT to be trusted... for if they learn of our mission.... they will come to find our planet and seize our precious nuts from us. the things that there have been many bloody wars fought over for many century's. . . which is also why our society is currently suffering... damage. . . . from. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
The only reason I know Heavens Gate still exist is because they sued Lil Uzi Vert.
@Marshal Marrs I know right? I Imagine if an advanced civilization come to visit us and the leader of these species says: What the f*ck?!? Why you people of earth are so crazy to say these things on us? There are no such things like: green/gray alien, reptilians, Annunaki, nordics, or what else, just you of earth, us, and maybe other spieces, but their are not like those "aliens" that you people believe. We are appeared thanks to Evolution, like you. No one has helped you in the past to develop your civilization, you are the responsible for this. No extraterrestrial civilization visit your planet for years with these so call UFO to study your world, this is the first time of the history that an advanced civilization visit your world. And the stories to kindap people for experiments or other bad things? We are not monsters, we don't kindap species from other planets or our species. This is why we don't visit earth. You humans have too many prejudices about everythings, you are also arrogant and suoerficial. And don't you dare to accuse us to be the responsible of the end of your species, you are destroying yourselfe. And about some humans that say "better to be an animal, because they are more better of the humans", well… they have rights, the animals are better of you humans
@@TheDeepThinker-sq3iy Is there a squirrel queen?
I love how respectfully and genuinely curiously approach these subjects no matter how ridiculous they may seem. It's quite the refreshing take just talking about the topic at hand without bashing on other people like so many other youtubers do when they talk about these kinds of things.
yes
I found the dweeb lol
It's still pretty wack tho
@@lefishe6611 the same thing could be said about all religions
@@chasethemaster3440 Fair
I like how Carl Sagan approach this in his book Demon haunted world, in one part of his book he mentions that someone was sending him letters about the dude being an alien, he replied asking math/physics problems that could have been solved already by an advance civilization. He never got another letter again.
Based moment there. 👍🏽
The coolest part of that story, is that the letter did not come from ego. He wasn’t trying to disprove a potential fraud. He was trying to learn from a potential one-of-kind opportunity for exchange that was extremely unlikely to occur and if legit, would unlikely occur ever again. Carl Sagan was a true scientist. 👍
Worst case: Fraud gets rekt
Best case: We get access to alien knowledge
Plot Twist: The letter back got lost in the mail. The answers are still out there till this very day.
@@TAURELLIAN Indeed he was a really based scientist, open to any possibility but really down to earth.
@@QuintonRC23 Just send via telekinesis that your letter got lost, duh!
"Nordic aliens"
That is just so fucking absurd to me, why the hell would aliens have attributes of people from a region on earth?
Because it's all made up.
lol you dont even know dude , this rabbit hole gets so much deeper. i can tell youre at lvl 1. If you want to know more look up the Vril Society. ua-cam.com/video/gme0sJLh5yI/v-deo.html
Cuz nordic people are supposedly more pure alien? While the darker people are more mixed with the native population that was here before supposed nordic aliens came here and mixed with them🗿Yea smt like that
I think it means Nordic gods, myths and such. But i am just guessing, like Odin beeing humanoid but Alien.
@@arobotwithepilepsie6053 nah, it literally refers to aliens that just happen to look like 6 to 7 foot tall pale, blonde, blue-eyed people. one guy in the 50s said some Nordics picked him up and they had a good time basically. most investigators have concluded that that guy was just a con artist charlatan. and yet Nordics are now part of modern alien race canon, like the greys or reptilians. there's also cat people aliens but i don't care enough about this obvious bullshit to remember what they're called.
Honorable mention: Mormonism. While they don’t actively teach it today, the founders taught that God and Jesus lived on a planet by a star named Kolob and that during the apocalypse (or afterwards?), planet Earth would travel through space until it reached God’s throne near Kolob (or something like that). They even have a hymn called “If You Could Hie to Kolob.”
I liked this video but would’ve enjoyed if you went into a little more depth with each religion. Maybe in a future video you could do that or make a separate video for each religion. Thanks for your work!
Also you can upgrade to demi-God level in the afterlife and you get your own planet to mess with. Damn they really do got some appealing points to not male you sin.
@@Ballin4Vengeance but you do have to engage in every LDS sacrament; including plural marriage. at least, that's what Smith taught.
@@TOBAPNW_ ain’t too shabby either… Ok kinda is.
I have now lost all respect for mormorism.
Nice, I was just in the mood to watch one of your videos.
Same. Saw the title and was just so ready for it.
First comment lmao
Get of ma hed
Same
Exactly
What if the real aliens were the friends we made along the way.
What if the aliens are just us?
I'm an alien
The question you have to ask yourself is how did you come to that conclusion, and what made you think that way. You need evidence for such a hypothesis friend. God bless.
we are technically aliens to other aliens so...yeah
@@Stevie-J who realed us before we realed the real reals into realdom?
I've recently watched videos about 'Unicult', led by a woman named 'Unicole', who claims to be an 'alien in a human body'. This individual has a significant following online. This person consider their actions/behaviours to be a religion. It is fascinating to me just what people will believe in.
And yet again, the internet is enlightened by this gentleman's content and unmatched prosody.
Thank you for yet another great video, H.
Watching current and past events unfold you gotta wonder how far off HG really was, and how truly wild some of these beliefs are when compared to both ancient and modern ideologies of similar kinds.
I love your content! It's really nice to see them evolution of religion and how it adapts to modern thought.
Yeah i felt compelled to click !
I remembered that in primary school a classmate told me that I should not believe in aliens, because God exists. My reaction was, what does it have to do with anything? lol The universe is supposed to be infinite and God omnipotent. She didn't like my answer haha.
Great video as always, and a super interesting topic. Hopefully you can expand it in the future!
On a side note, I always forget to tell you that I love your voice ❤️
Yeah your point is pretty good. I am religious and believe in aliens (not necessarily close enough that it matters to us, but out there somewhere)
If god created everything wouldnt that include aliens as well?
@@FlyingAlfredoSaucer Same. I'm religious too but I think I have common sense. It is quite narcissistic to believe that we are the only ones in such a large universe with different worlds that can have their own ecosystem. But this does not affect my faith in God, to whom I am grateful for the blessings I have. I don't think we'll have confirmed contact in this lifetime, but it's fascinating to think about other worlds and species.
@@alxofficial1541 can be, for all we know humans and animals are the only creation mentioned to be created by god in the Bible if ur a Christian buy it isn’t wild to imagine what if god had made other living creature not exactly what we imagine aliens to be. Demons are creatures not exactly humans sooo it’s safe to say there could be others or we are alone in this vast universe. It’s interesting nonetheless
@@tituspaul2345 so when he said let there be light. He was only talking about the light on earth? Wouldn't that be the sun? That would mean God created EVERYTHING! or at the least our Galaxy. Why would we wanna limit ourselves to only life on earth ? Makes no sense to me
Heaven's Gate actually never disbanded, albeit it stopped accepting new members, seeing as it is already too late for the rest of us in their eyes now.
Two remaining members stayed behind, and they continue to maintain the website through the TELAH (The Evolutionary Level Above Human) Foundation.
I would love a buddhism video someday! I really enjoy all your productions
I'm surprised there are only a handful of these "UFO Religions" mentioned in hochelaga's video. I'm not sure this qualifies as a UFO religion but there is this "channel" named Daryl Anka who claims to channel his future self. A being he calls Bashar (who is a hybrid E.T. living on another planet/dimension/and time.) He has a huge following. I'm also surprised Steven Greer (founder of CSETI) wasn't mentioned. Him and his team of UFologists go out and use Hindu mantras and other meditations in order to "summon UFO's" (at least that's what appears to be happening in his documentary.)
my friend were in a meeting and he tapped me on the shoulder and showed me the notification for your new video and we both got excited :> great video as always!! :D
10:23 I generally like Holchelaga's videos and find his pretty even keel tone to be refreshing but I would propose that saying Scientology and Heaven's Gate are comparable to religions like Christianity, Buddhism, Islam, Hinduism, or Judaism is dangerous. Scientology and Heaven's Gate are both cults, dangerous ones at that. The abusive practices of Scientology are well documented. Regardless of whether or not you believe in auditing, the cult like behavior they encourage on their practitioners is not healthy. Similarly, Heaven's Gate required members to cut off contact with their family and indoctrinated their members into committing suicide.
Granted that there are dangerous cult offshoots of the mainstream religions, but they are exceptions to those religions. In that light, I'm sure there are many, many more UFO religions out there that are not cults and likewise hate the stigma that Scientology and Heaven's Gate has brought on them. It's those groups that are the more apt comparison mainstream faiths, rather than dangerous cults. I guess what I'm trying to say is: Jim Jones and the People's Temple is to Christianity, what Marshall Applewhite and Heaven's Gate is to UFO Relgions.
The thing is: *today* the mainstream religions we have are more subdued and are not so wacky and cultish like those two, but are we sure this has always been the case? What if the way a religion becomes mainstream is first being super cultish and amassing power, and then after it has stablished itself, slowly become more PG so that it will spread better? I feel like we don't know enough about how religions are born to make a definite guess on this, which is why these UFO religions are interesting subjects to study in the first place.
And, second, and perhaps most importantly, the Church of Scientology is known to be very sensitive to their public image and tends to pursue legal action against critics, as well as doing a lot of shady things to silence then, so I think it makes sense for Hochelaga to tiptoe around them when mentioning them.
@@nivircescrittore8304 I disagree, some of the largest mainstream religions have been completely open with their texts and doctrines from the very beginning, Islam and Buddhism for example. Some religions were and still are secretive (to a varying extent) as they weren't supposed to be preached outside of their ethnicity/culture, like Judaism, Druze, Yazidis. The only example of a religion I can think of that started as a cult and then changed to become a more open religion is Christianity (and the various related forms of Gnosticism).
@@theokra Fair enough. I guess being raised christian made me think of them first instead of Islam and Buddhism, that being said, the fact Christianity, the most practiced relligion in the world is the one of the mainstream religions with cultish inceptions still seems significant.
The difference between cult and culture is a critical mass.
Are you saying there aren't abusive practices in Christianity, Buddhism, etc and none of them have any secrets? Because we know that's not true.
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9:51 You forgot to say:
having been told that their souls will ascend onto the spaceship.
Fun fact: the cave paintings at 1:04 depict rain spirits from the beliefs of the indigenous people living in the area (Australia I think)
The ship from Japan is theorised to be an exiled Russian royal or noble, as that’s how people were exiled at the time.
Please keep up the religious info, history, and mythology! I love it!
I've actually read a book written by Raël. Von Däniken's Chariots of the Gods (the gods descending from the sky to teach humanity and help it advance and who are in fact extraterrestrials) was a huge bestseller and Raël obviously wanted to capitalize on that success. I don't think it's a concidence that Raëlism was founded during the 70's when there was quite a lot of interest in UFO's and the paranormal.
A religion becomes a cult once someone starts to benifit.
A cult becomes religion when the man in charge loses power.
The Heaven's Gate is still so fresh in my mind I even remember I just came out of the shower that day to watch news about their su icide. I can't forget it because of the UFO wave that came with the Hale-Bopp comet which many of us saw.
As always a very entertaining video.
As soon, as I saw a sun dog, it hit me:
That's probably what inspired Elden Rings design.
Genuinely, my favourite topic, and quite unexpected. Great video, as usual.
Love to see your channel grow! You have awesome content, keep it up 👍
Quite a fascinating subject, even if I don't believe in it! I remember as a young kid seeing an old book someone had about extraterrestrials in the Bible with an eye on the front cover. Anyone remember what that book was called? I seem to recall it was published in 1978.
Chariots of the Gods? by Erich von Däniken (1968). That might be it. 🙃
Your videos are so interesting, I always get excited when you upload
02:28 cool vid man as always. but I just want to clarify that the sun dog phenomenon is already described in the Nürnberg chronicle in a separate chapter making it an unlikely explanation to the incident. the explanation itself is also not fitting, as sun dog being described as a cross holding sun surrounded by crescent moons.
You have the best content. Thank you for these videos
i'm foreign to english and understood all the words without subtitles. your accent along with the content have became one of my faves. keep going!
Makes me want to start a new stellaris game and make the whole galaxy accept my faction's faith.
Always glad to see a new video from you
7:26 I love that directly after this sentence I got an ad for the Pillow Cube 😂😂😂
Always a good day when you drop a video
I jumped on this as soon as I saw it in my feed. I always enjoy your content.
Me: Throws rock
Person: What is that?
Me: A UFO
My mother fall into one of these😔, but at least it isn't some aggressive god and she is learning some basic physics from this
Hochelaga creating endlessly entertaining videos.
Alien!
"Who knows, maybe first contact is closer than you think."
Hochelaga is an alien, confirmed.
Biggest plot twist of the century
I didn't know that Japan had ancient ufo stories. Give me all the delicious teachings 😍
Please upload frequently🙏🙏🙏🙏
Minor correction: the Sea Org refers to the so-called navy of the CoS, not a particular ship like the cruise liner you mentioned around 9:15.
Your contents are very inspiring! Thank you for the amazing videos
Seems dangerous another heavens gate incident might happen again in the future
Would like to see the alleged ancient accounts of alien visitations being adapted into the MonsterVerse (my guess is that Monarch now has a branch that studies extraterrestrial encounters, and some of these sightings were contacts with the MonsterVerse’s version of the Xiliens, the Kilaaks, the M Space Hunter Nebula aliens, the Black Hole Planet 3 aliens, or the Vortaak).
Also, would like to see the Utsuro-bune incident adapted into an episode of Ultraman.
absoluetly loved this. Thank you .
Thanks for the video! Would love to see more on this topic. :)
"they are in contact with Celestial Being"
*Daybreak's Bell starts playing
another great video!
This channel keeps me awake at night
Very good video sir. I enjoy your perspective with attempt to leave personal bias out. It was great.
Terrence Mckenna has an interesting concept about what the UFO experience cou'ldve really mean in humanity through psylocibin. He called this The Other, and they reside in this hyperdimension and the psilocybin could be an extraterrestial or an alien.
The tiny wisconsin town I grew up in has a ufo parade every year cause some lady had a bunch of sightings on a hill outside of town. Pretty neat stuff man
I'm guessing humans have realized there aren't very many Heroes worth celebrating on Earth, and God left them behind. Give us some aliens!
Jesus is GOAT and outsold them all perioddddd
@@cloud2451 jesus is always missing in action. Just another story
Little green men from Mars will save us
@@cloud2451 Indoctrinated much?
@@carpo719 cause aliens are so helpful to humanity what would we do without them
Another great thing about your videos: no mention of Raid Shadow Legends or Manscaped
Right place, Right time
It was very cool to see this video, after listening to the fabulous podcast "It’s probably (not) aliens"
This is a truly great channel. Keep up the good work 🙊🙉🙈🇨🇦👍
I don't find them anymore ridiculous or outlandish than other more popular world religions and I am glad that was addressed. It really is a rebranding that even makes more sense than these established religions in some cases.
You should do a video on the “book of Enoch” please🙏
I know you would enjoy it, it is one of the lost and uncommon book of the bible
this kinda topics fits pretty well with ur style of vids
i love that some religions are sprung from intentional fiction yet over time has become truth in the eye of the devoted
also, heavens gate logo is actually bangin
Very few people say Heaven’s Gate and the Phoenix Lights in the same breath.
I had some dealing with Raeilians back in the 90’s. The group was made up mostly of young beautiful women. I’m not sure why that was, but I will admit that did keep me intrigued for a while, even though I thought their whole belief system was too far out for me. They also believed in a lot of touching and hugging. Looking back, maybe I should’ve gone with it.
I think the tagline "I want to believe" is very telling.
...the explanation for the Nuremberg incident is enough for me to discount any conclusions mainstream science has about ancient aliens.
Because it doesn't fit with your own preconceived notions? Because you're starting with a conclusion and working backwards to try and find "evidence" that seemingly fits?
@@DukeOnkled no. Because its a ridiculous explanation that doesnt even make sense. If you read the original article of the incident you would know that it talks about a massive trianglular aircraft, spheres falling to the Earth in clouds of smoke and many different shapes cylinders, crescents, crosses and spears. Obviously its 1561 so they don't have the proper language to describe what could be alien aircraft. Non of it describes a sun dog even remotely which makes that excuse laughable.
@@alxofficial1541 I'll discount anything that inaccurately or insufficiently describes a certain phenomena, mainstream or not. I agree that the sun dog explanation for Nuremburg is ridiculous given the accounts and the depictions. There's clearly crashed smoking objects like the ones in the sky seen in the painting. While sun dogs DO describe a lot of the stuff you see depicted in biblical paintings of miracles and such, this particular event seems completely unrelated. There isn't even a ring of light depicted anywhere in the sky. To then go and say something like: "See? Maybe think about reality before jumping to conclusions and calling it aliens." is hypocritical.
This isn't even in defense of ufos or aliens being the culprit in this Nuremberg case, just of common sense and equality of skeptical rigor. People will go to ridiculous lengths to debunk or explain away something they personally find ridiculous. Typically equally (if not more-so) as ridiculous as whatever theory they find ridiculous.
"What could these UFOs be that were tracked by military clocking impossible speeds for any known aircraft that're causing such a ruckus in our national defense programs? That's really strange. Could it be some kind of technology the public and/or military's never seen before?"
-> "OmG iT's JuSt A bIrD yA dUmMy aLiEns ArEn'T rEaL! LmAo! bEtTeR fInD yOuR TiNfOiL hAt! LoL!"
By their own purported logic, it's should be equally silly to jump to conclusions that, while familiar to us, completely fail as a reasonable explanation for what's observed, as it would be to jump to a more likely, but unconfirmed (advanced tech of some kind), explanation that isn't familiar to us. What they fail or refuse to explain, they'll either ignore, or just settle on an equally ridiculous explanation that just happens to be something regularly observed. Then, they still have enough cognitive dissonance left over to chortle and insinuate you're an idiot for exploring alternative explanations (because you've already done the research to find out if there WAS a simple explanation) that they refuse to consider because they've already determined them to be silly based on "how they feel about it" and congratulate themselves on being "rational".
People made fun of explorers coming back from Africa and describing Gorillas. Nobody believed them. People living in Europe had obviously never heard of them or seen them before, except for these "silly stories", and it took a long time for them to become scientifically recognized, despite being observed and reported by "silly sun-sick explorers" for decades.
It's beyond me how people can dismiss extraordinary and unexplained things like UFOs and either totally write them off as either totally fabricated and irrelevant to any reasonable public discourse, as if it were a complete non-issue, or they outright betray their own reasoning in favor of overly simple, banal, and inaccurate explanations. That or they just outright ignore it because they don't care. I can at least sympathize with that last reason to dismiss it a bit more, though I definitely don't relate to it. At least they aren't trying to appear smart or superior at the cost of betraying what intelligence they actually have.
Fr. Spyridon Bailey has a good book on this subject called “The UFO Deception”.
4:20 that’s literally the alien that Josuke encounters in Jojo Part 4
i saw it and immediately went “mikitaka????”
9:07 holy shit,that cruise ship is always docked at the port of my home country of Aruba.
Wooh! Came early, the moment I saw this new update I clicked like a maniac
My only fear is that we come into contact with aliens now and they’re hostile. In science fiction humanity has already expanded across the stars, yet in reality we’re like babies who’ve just learned to walk still as far as space exploration is concerned. I honestly don’t think we’d survive
You’re confusing Hollywood movies with reality. Humans are as advanced as can be, there’s nowhere within billions of light years where anything else is capable of space travel.
@@oskardirlewanger6083 Really?
How do you know that?
Well, seeing that most major accepted religions have works filled with unidentified flying things and alien beings of one kind or another I really can't agree that this is on the rise. A bit more versions, perhaps, but the same general story. Except for maybe those ones from India which appear to have been written by an early incarnation of Isaac Asimov.
Im surprised you didnt mention Dr. Greer. pretty compelling until I realized it was just some new age religion. I lost my shit when he had someone off the coast fire flares into the air saying he was communicating to them to his little group.
Love the videos man! Keep it up 👊🤘👍
Thanks for sharing!
I got a UFO cult ad before watching this that was pretty funny
I looove your videos and can't get enough!
You have the voice of Lemony Snicket 💯
Maybe it's the same beings throughout history, taking on different forms depending on the culture of the day
Sad not to see Posadas here though it is a little stretch...perhaps one for a future video?. Also from an academic standpoint, cult isn't a useful term and doesn't have much use or meaning beyond a pejorative description...from an outside perspective most religions can be confortably defamed as a cult and arguments made to discredit their legitimacy on those grounds. Because of it's unclear meaning, genealogy and the emic-etic divide, cult isn't really a helpful term and it's far better when dealing with a religiously inspired group's harmful, toxic or deadly behavior to simply describe it and let it speak in its own terms (Though of course what is included or omitted mean this still requires careful scrutiny).
A term can be useful when you find a unique application. Consider cult as a mini-culture. While a so-called subculture is a culture within a culture, a cult implies such a subculture that is deliberately insular versus a subculture that is not or less so.
They're no more ridiculous than traditional religions tbh
Thank you for the subtitles
@hochelaga is one of, if not the, most entertaining channel. Always brings a smile to my face whenever you upload more wonderful content!
In fact, heaven's gate did not technically disband. They still have a couple of members who were chosen to stay behind while the others "transcended". It's their job take care of their affairs on earth, like maintain the website etc.
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“Who knows, maybe Christianity will go from a World religion to an Intergalactic one.”
I’ve never heard something so terrifying in my life
Atleast Christianity slowly devolve into atheist states… Islam on the other hand… *shivers*
@@Gnomelander1400 well put. Christianity has the possibility of allowing secularism, which leads to conditions for atheism and free thought. Islam on the other hand.. *shivers* *with* *you*
I'd like to see a piece on the religions that have started with a bright light in the sky. Akhenaten, Saul/Paul, Constantine, all claim to have seen a bright light that spoke to them. These are just the one's I know off the top of my head. There must be others, and are they seeing the same thing? Does the human brain experience the same malfunction under certain circumstances?
EDIT: and Zoroaster
Kind of related but you should check out people seeing white light when a near-death experience occurs. You can try to google it, or check it on youtube as well. It is a phenomenon and lots of people who experience them either become religious or have some altered perspective towards life. Because sometimes they see heaven, or hell or some paradise or talk to some entity. My father actually experienced this back then when he got rammed by a car and told me about it, I didn't care about it then, but grown up now, reading more and maturing and now turning a spiritual person after years of Atheism myself after realizations, it is kind of making sense. There really is more to what we know of today.
@@farewelltome. hard to see how nearly dying would make someone religious. A god that doesn't nearly kill you would seem like better thing to worship.
@@EinarEle Well, it is almost guaranteed all people living right now will eventually die
Saw a Tic Tok bout an alien asking about Jesus, he like "why he so cool?" And human is like "cause he told us to be nice to each other" and the alien like "no one else said that?" And the human like "another guy did" and then the alien asks "what did you do to them?" The humans a little stumped and responds "umm we killed them😬"
I didn't notice I thought occult and magic/witchcraft pagan based religions were on the rise
consider doing vids on ndes from people who have died throughout history, it goes back further than you'd think, these nde testimonials from heaven/hell are fascinating and always gets downplayed in the mainstream, there are fakes who talk of having dreams in order to get views but the genuine cases are the ones that have officially died and are later resuscitated
Another excellent topic and video!
Very well done!
Would love to see a video on mushroom-based religions next! 😉