Given that UFO religions are often based around 1st generational experiencers who can be interviewed about that experience on camera, aren't these religions more valid in a historical lens? Doesn't the distance of time so damage our ability to know the truth of so many religions in a way it doesn't with UFO religions? The comparison in the validity of a modern first-hand witness to say Christianity which is a religion based on a 2,000 year old account of Paul's visions of Jesus just can't really be made.
It's cool that you are tackling this topic. I personally would LOVE to hear your thoughts on the book "Passport to Magonia" by Jaques Vallée. He is one of the very few serious scientists who researched the UFO phenomenon. Ironically, he came to very different conclusions than most other "science-minded" people in that field. Or do "American Cosmic" by D. W. Pasulka. There is more to this topic than you probably think.
From my own research as a Regression Hypnotherapist I can tell you first hand = Reincarnation - Past Lives - Heaven - is a Real thing. And also Alien contact is a Real thing as well. Man made religions will have to evolve now that the UFO Alien reality is coming true from the US Government with UFO whistle blowers telling the Truth like Captain David Grusch admitting the US military has Alien UFO wreckage and bodies.
@@mikkapassos9802 this was bugging me a lot actually. Why are people with this kind of belief being ridiculed, but people who are in "mainstream religions" are OK. Especially in sciences. If you are scientist, let's say astrophysici, and you belive in ETs, you'll get kicked out of academia, but if you are a Christian, it's OK. Perhaps one for the factors is that people who belive in ETs are also trying to disprove science and government through conspiracy theories and are therefore labeled as potentially dangerous or at lest not reliable, while average Christian doesn't try to undermine authorities and is acceptable by the society even in countries with high percentage of atheists.
@@JustSpectre christian creationist aren't kicked too? If yes, maybe for the same reason you pointed out. They question the credibility of well stablished stuff in science and therefore academic authority in general. Correct me if I am wrong.
Pretty much every new religious movements can either be traced back to Theosophy, the Hermetic Order of the Golden Dawn, or the Second Great Awakening.
It goes back even earlier to adventurers and orientalists who would (often) misinterpret some stories or artifacts they encountered and brought back from far-away places (popular in 1800s and beyond). I think some fairy stories have become UFO/Bigfoot type of stories, too. There are many other sources... Theosophy and Golden Dawn offshoots got some big time press, too. The Rosicrucians got some press. Alchemists got some press, etc.
Most 'New Age' beliefs, if they don't come from an existing major religion, seem to come from either Theosophy, Spiritualism, or, strangely enough, the fiction of HP Lovecraft, which seems to be the origin of the common trope "this myth is really talking about aliens".
Theosophy does have a lot of descendants as does Thelema (Aleister Crowley's philosophy) but in general most groups are in some way or another descents of various Masonic rites (both regular and accepted ones like the standard 3 degrees of Blue Lodge and irregular ones like Memphis Misraim or the OTO). In turn Masonry gets a lot from Neoplatonism and Greek Mystery Schools. Oh then there's also Rosicrucianism in its many different purported incarnations (the only one I give any credence to these days is SRIA and its affiliates outside England like SRIC in Canada)
Only just started the video when writing this, but the "A" in UAP was recently changed from "Aerial" to "Anomalous" to cover more types of strange occurrences.
It's funny--that quote about "rendering the familiar unfamiliar and the unfamiliar familiar" is one I've usually heard in association with the writing of science fiction! lol
My mother has been talking about UFO’s since I can remember. It’s really hard for me to acknowledge her ideas as a legitimate belief. Your video helped me realize how narrow minded I have been. I’m going to put in more effort to hear her feelings even if I have trouble understanding the details. Thank you for the video.
He was not saying it was a legitimate belief. He was only describing the phenomenon that people were organizing religions around such beliefs. But yes, it's probably always kind to hear what your mother wants to say, whatever you think of it
@@Robespierre-lI "people were organizing religions around such beliefs" I think thats what meimei meant by 'legitimate belief', as in, the psychological phenomenon/belief system occurring in his mother's head and in her UFO community is comparable to "standard" religions. She's wacky in the same way that any other religious person may be, just without a millennia of tradition backing her up. And acknowledging this psychological process, it might be compassionate as a loving relative to maybe not entertain her ideas, but at least empathize and understand where she's coming from.
I am a Londoner, and I lived most of my life in Fulham, a bit of a down at heel area, but nowadays very prosperous. A long time ago, an old shop in the high street suddenly re-opened as “ The Aetherius Society”. Run by one man initially, it involved praying to our space brothers by using a “battery”. That followers would fill up with their prayers at meetings, and then they would all go out somewhere and have a ceremony and “release” the “energy” in case the space brothers came for a visit, and a cup of tea and a biscuit. Very polite and British.
King, founder of that society, referring to Venus and Mars as sources of alien contact is _so_ 50s. Once we discovered how barren those places are, both science fiction and paranormal speculations moved their subject matter further afield.
@@Preetvndsounds more like an excuse for a social cuppa and a bikkie. (Cup of tea and a cookie?). Never underestimate the power of a hot drink and lonely people.
Another group that you could look at is the Vale do Amanhecer from Brazil. It started in the Global South and was heavily influenced by Spiritism, Christianity, and Umbanda. It was established around Brasilia by a Brazil's first female truck driver. One of the more fascinating things is that they have male-female priest teams. The female priest gets the messages from the divine aliens and the male priest interprets that message. Edited - Corrected Spiritualism and Spiritism.
Bro we had a guy in germany, Dr Axel Stoll (R.I.P.) and he had theories and books about UFOs that we built in WW2 and how womans hair can recieve extra terrestial signals. If everyone has the same ideas there must be something true behind it
@the original poster, don't you mean "Spiritism"? The more scientific approach to spiritualism? I remember reading up on Brazilian UFO cults and seeing that there was a major distinction between Spiritism and Spiritualism.
Just a slight correction: Ken Arnold said that the objects were flying as discs (frisbee), not that they were shaped like one. The actual form described by him was a cigar, a cilinder. The headlines at the time didnt care for it and hence a lot of people saw flying saucers on the sky
One group I'm surprised not to see mentioned here is the Urantia Book movement. It's one of the earlier religious movements based on contacts with beings beyond Earth, with the first Papers being channeled through the anonymous contactee sometime in the 1920s, long predating the claims of George Adamski or Betty and Barney Hill.
@@obsidianjane4413I mean, some groups which use the Urantia Papers as a central text do meet the standard definition of a high control group. So do some groups which use the Bible or the Zend Avesta as their central text. Overall one of the defining features of the Urantia movement is how decentralized it is: there are of course groups that exist to promulgate and promote the text, like the original Urantia Foundation and the Urantia Book Fellowship, but these aren't analogous to Christian sects in that they aren't in opposition to each other or hold any mutually exclusive beliefs. The Urantian community takes the form moreso of a loosely connected network of believers working from the same material than a single leader dictating the beliefs to a flock. In the past some people have used it to try and start some more apocalyptically focused groups, but those groups did what apocalyptic groups tend to do 99% of the time and fizzled out without incident.
The Urantia Book is simply an enigma, that's how I would describe it. I don't think there is a cohesive group connected to that book, even though I could be wrong, for all I know it's simply a mysterious and unexplained book that fascinates many different people in many different ways.
I saw one in 1985 in Ireland, and it moved like nothing else I’ve ever seen. Sharp angular turns, hovering, floating, and finally shooting out and away straight outwards towards space in a blink of an eye.
Wonderful video, very interesting. I did have a few questions. You mention how UFO religions came out of the anxieties of the Cold War and nuclear Armageddon. Are there any examples or academic research being done into new religions coming out of the anxieties about climate change? I know that I have seen some very interesting and sometimes peculiar rhetoric coming out of the solarpunk community. You mention how religious studies give us an example to look at and examine religion in a way that can help us move past our own biases and prejudices. So far you've covered religions from all around the globe but I was wondering if you think you'll ever do a video about the mainstream LDS faith. I sometimes feel that so much attention is given to Fringe offshoots of the LDS community like the flds, that there is very little attention given to the actual mainstream group. The conversation that exists seems to be completely centered around the negative experiences of ex members, which is no less legitimate but very slanted towards particular view and not very charitable. UA-cam content creators seem to parrot some of these ideas and portray members of that faith as some kind of cartoonish villains, views they seem to share with many Protestant groups who have historically hated Mormons. I remember after 9/11 how some of the fear towards Muslims seemed to redirect towards a fear of Mormons as a home grown threat akin to fears of Zionism in the early 20th century. This seems a shame to me because so many Mormons occupy important positions in the government and military inside of the United States, especially relative to the percentage of the population they represent. Views so biased against Mormons, or the few blindly supporting them, seem to stand in the way of an objective understanding of their impact in American and Global culture. Finally, is there any study of the Hotep movement as a religious force in African diaspora communities? Much of the dialogue there seems religiously slanted as well.
The mountain in Washington is Mt. Rainier pronounced Rainy-er. You pronounced it all French like which may be the original pronunciation. Another very informative overview!
I think one of the most interesting things about UFO experiences is how similar they are to faery, and other spiritual, encounter experiences such as visions of the Virgin Mary, but with modern/scientific-sounding explanation of aliens, rather than the older explanation of spirits. I find that a point in favor of some of these being real experiences of spirits, interpreted as aliens; although it could also work the other way, or be third option that has to be interpreted through the mental framework of the human experiencing it.
you should read some books by Jacques Vallee, since he expresses an extremely similar conclusion. Passport to Magonia is good start, but there are some things that even Vallee was duped by that you must see through, like the Israeli psychic. Nonetheless, Vallee’s inquisitive mind points to incredibly intriguing conclusions
@@antaliano7947 nice! I’ve heard of Vallee, but haven’t read him! I don’t have any opinion on Geller (although i do have a signed, bent, spoon from him), but it’s interesting that the things like spoon bending that he’s famous for, where never part of what was tested at SRI, because they also thought it was just a magic trick.
In the Islamic world, encounters with Jinn cover much the same ground. As with near-death experiences, perhaps these encounters are 'real' on some non-physical level, but are perceived and interpreted through the lens of personality, culture, history, expectation, etc.
This is a fascinating topic. As someone who is somewhat of a "deist", believing Gods law for sentient beings is a basic and in built knowledge of right and wrong and the ability reason, extraterrestrial life would only further strengthen my belief in a creator/creative force. My views are still agnostic whether this force intervenes with creation or not but it is something I enjoy thinking about.
The concept of a Great Architect of the Universe is pretty much just a 'god' that tells you to become a little god yourself, since he's not the aristotelian God that is being, good and purpose itself
In the late 50ies, C. G. Jung wrote a book which was translated as Flying Saucers: A Modern Myth of Things Seen in the Skies . I read it a few years ago, but thanks to watching this video today, I realise now that he was approaching the topic of UFOs in a similar way as the modern religionists do, only from a psychologist's perspective. He did not ask whether the flying saucers were real or not, but what can these experiences reveal about the (collective) unconscious of the people of that times. An interesting guy indeed.
"Collective unconscious" is a big unscientific and absurd piece of sophistry. All social phenomena have their origin in culture. And all human cultures share some aspects because they are all HUMAN cultures. We are a single species and we share our way of looking at the external world.
I met a Raelian one time, although until I saw this video, I wouldn't have known he was a Raelian. But what you said is pretty much exactly what he believed.
My grandparents and Dad are still members of Unarius. I ended up leaving it at 21 to eventually convert to Judaism. If you ever want to do a video on it, I’d be happy to give you the inside track.
@@chrisrendon461 "Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me. And ye will not come to me, that ye might have life. I receive not honour from men. But I know you, that ye have not the love of God in you. I am come in my Father's name, and ye receive me not: if another shall come in his own name, him ye will receive. How can ye believe, which receive honour one of another, and seek not the honour that cometh from God only? Do not think that I will accuse you to the Father: there is one that accuseth you, even Moses, in whom ye trust. For had ye believed Moses, ye would have believed me; for he wrote of me. But if ye believe not his writings, how shall ye believe my words?"- John chapter 5 verses 39 to 47. "The Lord thy God will raise up unto thee a Prophet from the midst of thee, of thy brethren, like unto me; unto him ye shall hearken; According to all that thou desiredst of the Lord thy God in Horeb in the day of the assembly, saying, Let me not hear again the voice of the Lord my God, neither let me see this great fire any more, that I die not. And the Lord said unto me, They have well spoken that which they have spoken. I will raise them up a Prophet from among their brethren, like unto thee, and will put my words in his mouth; and he shall speak unto them all that I shall command him. And it shall come to pass, that whosoever will not hearken unto my words which he shall speak in my name, I will require it of him."- Deuteronomy chapter 18 verses 15 to 19. "For I know that after my death ye will utterly corrupt yourselves, and turn aside from the way which I have commanded you; and evil will befall you in the latter days; because ye will do evil in the sight of the Lord, to provoke him to anger through the work of your hands. And Moses spake in the ears of all the congregation of Israel the words of this song, until they were ended."- Deuteronomy chapter 31 verses 29 to 30. "They provoked him to jealousy with strange gods, with abominations provoked they him to anger. They sacrificed unto devils, not to God; to gods whom they knew not, to new gods that came newly up, whom your fathers feared not. Of the Rock that begat thee thou art unmindful, and hast forgotten God that formed thee. And when the Lord saw it, he abhorred them, because of the provoking of his sons, and of his daughters. And he said, I will hide my face from them, I will see what their end shall be: for they are a very froward generation, children in whom is no faith. They have moved me to jealousy with that which is not God; they have provoked me to anger with their vanities: and I will move them to jealousy with those which are not a people; I will provoke them to anger with a foolish nation."- Deuteronomy chapter 32 verses 16 to 21.
Very interesting video, comparing UFO religions to other more traditional religions helps make more sense of them. I'm interested in the concept of hyper-real religiosity and its presence in other major religions. I'm not a religious person, but from what i've read from the New Testament for example, I can't shake the idea that sometimes it reads a lot like a form of entertainment that later transformed into a core belief of christianity. And in modern days I can think of how movies or even advertising have shaped the idea of what Christmas is, for example. Maybe that's not what the concept goes for, but it sounds like an interesting phenomenon.
The Gospels took stories of the culture around, like Homer, and those type of stories as well as religious stories, so yes, it happened in the same way. Christianity is a bit special though, it tries to explain everything, while other religions were more humble usually, so they were mostly just real, not hyper real. Ufos are just Christianity for materialists.
Or non canonical “fan fiction” like Dante’s Inferno or Paradise Lost. Or even the real life Jedi religion. We just have to wait until Chris Hemsworth claims he’s the living incarnation of Thor and starts a cult
It's a cultivated identity used to control populations. That's what they were invented for, by the ruling classes, and what they're still used for, by the ruling class. And you're thinking of fanaticism. Like a little girl at a Justin Bieber concert.
I can only offer personal experience here, but I absolutely have been shaped on some level by the media I watch and consume, philosophically speaking. It’s probably not that huge of a step for myself or someone else to shift those experiences into a core belief and from there into a religion
Crazy how far folks are willing to stretch belief in order to answer the age old question. Just accept that we don't have an answer. And there may be no answer
Theosophy didn't just influence UFO religions, it arguably was one, at least marginally (See the "chariot of the Sons of the Fire, the Lords of the Flame from Venus" in Annie Besant's _Man: Whence, How and Whither_ from 1913).
Interesting on PBS Space Time they were assessing the likelihood of alien species and the consensus was that the universe is only just old enough for complex sentient life which means unfortunately we may be the first or I’ve of the first species to be able to perceive the universe in an intelligent way.
Saw that one. On one hand it is depressing to know that we will never meet those wise alien teachers. On the other hand it is fun to think that a few billion years from now some alien scientist will stumble upon the remains of earth, dig one of my gold teeth out of the dirt, hold it up and exclaim "Behold! This belonged to one of the Ancients! A species so wise and powerful they reigned over the Galaxies for millions of years." and another one will counter "Careful! Ancient body implants can turn you to dust in a second!"
Mind you all talk like this is basically speculation, informed speculation perhaps but since there's still so much we don't know about the emergence of life it's hard for us to say anything for certain.
There a very interesting book about this sort of thing called American Cosmic: UFOs, Religion, Technology by D.W. Pasulka who is a professor of religious studies UNC. It is a great read for people who are interested in this topic!
I think the algorithm was shadow banning you from my feed because I have notifications on but I’m only seeing this today, only to find out I haven’t seen about 5 of your previous videos.
3:15 if I saw that guy and he asked me to do ANYTHING other than check out his new-age-funk band, I'd smile so wide and say "naaahh naaahhh" repeatedly while backing away🤣
UFO religions is something really wild. I remember sometimes in my country there are fliers of Hercolubus, and whenever they appear I keep wondering if NASA discovered something. But this discussion of the relevance of these kind of religions is important. I have a degree in economics and I give credence to the idea that economics itself is a religion, there's this book called Economics as Religion that makes a quite interesting argument.
From all that anxiety of the 50s and early 60s, we got some television shows about visitors from other worlds: The Adventures of Superman; My Favorite Martian.
I always found it odd that the Comment Section of most UFO videos had evangelicals battling it out with the 'I wanna believe' X-Files crowd. Now it makes sense
We are a funny species of primates. We (for the most part) are flawed thinkers/ poor personal historians and it’s interesting see how people gravitate towards certain beliefs;UFOs, Mormonism, a little wafer literally becoming the body of Christ, the moon being split into two, and so much more! It’s partially why I love this channel! I enjoy the objective approach and I learn a lot. Professor, could you do a video on the Cargo Cult that sprang up after WWII in the Pacific? It’s a very fascinating (to me) religious belief.
I mean, I don’t think it’s inherently wrong to believe things out of faith, the issue is when our tribalism takes us to join cults or the like, but although I don’t believe in all the alien stuff I find it harmless on itself, the only thing that personally bothers me is when some people try to explain why it’s okay for them to appropriate historical and religious figures because they were aliens in their view, and I strongly disagree with that
My eldest uncle, who is very into UFOs got angry at my on a family dinner because u said "i think believing in aliens it's the 21 century new religion"...
4:30 Aetherius sounds a whole lot like the ancient Greek word "aether", the _stuff_ that was thought to fill "outer space" before we realized it was a vacuum. 5:17 And Uriel is an archangel.
Great video. By the way, UAP is not a 'new term' for UFO. It includes weather phenomena and optical illusions. UFO can still be used when the object is positively identified as flying.
"The Jimmer was abducted by aliens, but that wasn't why he was famous - we get about 2 or 3 of those a month. It was his capacity for drinking that made him famous." - Escanaba in da Moonlight
rsrsrs o menino do acrE? E a historia dos garotos mortos no Mato Grosso e no Pará pelo grupo/Seita LUS sinistro. O MOvimento racional, vale do amanhecer também são grupos ufo br. Sem contar uma galera ai de jovens misticos que tem recebido mensagens desse brother do espaço. rsrs
They do. There is one big difference between cargo cults and UFO cults: Airplanes and American GIs actually did/do exist. Flying saucers and these green or gray space men do not. However, with both, those "left behind" (actual or imagined) pray to those who once gave them the "cargo" for the "cargo" that they want. Peace and love. Power to (do something esoteric). End to all of the world's problems. Teach us to jump ahead to their technology. It's wishful thinking, and unlikely to work as well for UFO believers as it did to the primitive tribespeople of cargo cults.
I think one thing that will be interesting to see in the next several years is if there will be AI-based religions that emerge. Visiting some of the AI/singularity forums these days gives almost religious evangelism vibes. Some of them believe that AI will bring either doom or a golden age. They view super intelligent AI almost as if a God that the world itself is going to create. The undercurrent of economic/technological anxieties definitely seems to drive some of the hope/fear that AI will solve problems with an almost divine solution.
That together with people submitting religious texts and icons to AI as prompts or learning material and thinking they're obtaining some new insight out of the results.
Thanks for the video. Another name worth mentioning in this would perhaps be Erich von Däniken (who is also a convicted fraudster BTW) who popularised with his books the idea that aliens must have been responsible for many ancient archaeological monuments. Because apparently ancient humans would have been too dumb and primitive to create large scale, sophisticated earthworks and such. I remember my grandfather (he passed away in the 1980s already) being deep into these theories. He devoured those books. Of course it's all pseudoscience at best, with a sprinkling of racism added for flavour...
Pyramids: Must be aliens. Gobelki Tepe: Clearly aliens were here. Sumerian Cuneiform: Aliens handed down writing to these ignorant cave-dwellers. Stonehenge: .... ..... Hm? Oh! Sorry. Nah, that was white people.
more so Kenneth Grant's Typhonian OTO, to my knowledge Parsons had no real interest in aliens or UFOs but I'd love to be wrong about that if you know something on the topic
Very interesting subject because it shows us how religions are originally formed and fulfil the existential need in people. I do believe there are other intelligent being in the universe because of the Fermi paradox but I don't think they might be here, and to be honest if they're anything like us it's more a thread than savours, look at Columbus arriving to America.
Jean-Pierre and bug person John Kirby saying there's absolutely no evidence of Aliens is now the greatest piece of evidence indicating the existence of Aliens.
Its really interesting thinking about religious experiences with an UFO-technology lense, but it also sparked my curiosity, is there any scholar or specialist that has tried to explain the UFO experiences with a religious lense? like the prescence of an angel or a saint... it would be a very interesting view on this subject.
I'm not trying to come off as rude here, but when you showed that massive spike in views on your 2016 video you said it was during May of 2022, however on the graph the spike is shown to have been between February 3, 2021 and April 5, 2022. I was just wondering if this was a mistake or not, and I don't mean to sound disrespectful, I'm just curious! No matter what I still enjoy your content and can't wait for your next video!
I think there is very much a difference if a religion has been practiced for thousands of years or if people just heard of Hinduism for the first time in the seventies and got confused
His name is pronounced rah-EHL. It has two syllables. It is based on "Israel" from the Hebrew Scriptures with him just using "Rael." Also, "Rael" typically has two dots over the letter "e" to indicate a new syllable like Noël, so Raël.
in a fan fiction of the X files, they drew a direct comparison between the fairy abductions and fairy rings- to the UFO abductions and the crop circles or "landing marks" teh same stories have occurred for hundreds of years. my favorite is musical: "I thought that they were angels, but to my surprise... we climbed aboard their starship, and headed for the skies!"
Amazing presentation of a very niche topic. I know many people who believe extraterrestrials are advanced spiritual, as well as physical, beings. I also study this phenomenon and there is an interesting link between psychedelics and extraterrestrial encounters. My personal opinion is that during these altered states of consciousness human mind evokes certain images, which are then interpreted based one's cultural background. One person might call these encounters spirits, other gods and some extraterrestrials as you have pointed out in the talk.
Human brains are extremely biased towards pattern seeking so when something like a drug trip creates what is essentially random noise through neuron misfiring the brain will still seek to interpret that as if it is real based on prior experiences. So it probably isn't surprising that people living in technological societies tend to see technological shapes while those living in pre-industrial societies saw natural shapes. And of course someone living in a technological society is likely to reach for the kinds of explanations a technological society tends to offer, which will look like a mix of garbled science and pop culture.
9:49 This gets at something I find annoying about ancient astronaut theorists/UFO religions. Rarely do they try to understand imagery found in ancient writing/art within the cultural context from which they were created. Everything must be a misinterpretation by ancient peoples of sci fi tech. It not only dismissive of ancient people's intelligence as often said, but also denies their ability to creative or just plain weird. Though applying aliens to everything is proof enough modern people can be creative and weird, at least.
Ironically they're displaying the biases of their own time, they live in a world dominated by technology where they constantly see weird and wonderful technology, so they assume this must also have been the case in the past. It's the exact reverse of what they assumed happened, what if instead of an ancient person mistaking technology for the divine because they didn't know much about technology it's the modern person who is mistaking a description of the divine for technology because they are so used to technology.
I really wonder if the Shaver Mysteries didn't serve as a transition between the more purely spiritual Theosophy and the more physicalist UFO religions. Ray Palmer boosted Kenneth Arnold's report of flying crescents "skipping like saucers" through the sky because Palmer thought that Arnold's sighting supported Shaver's accounts.
Did you put this video together in a week as a response to the David Grusch interviews? Or-seeing as this is only your second ever video about UAPs-is it fortuitous timing?
Well it's very recently a trending topic, so I think it makes sense he would mention it. It's not only the supposed "whistleblower" that made headlines in the news regarding UFOs/UAPs. The Pentagon held a UAP conference which Canada attended for the first time and there was the wildly viral news story of the family in Vegas claiming (seems to be mostly their teenage sons) that had a vivid experience with aliens. It would make sense for him to address this as it's a relevant cultural topic at the moment.
@ReligionForBreakfast Thank you for this informative video! I do have an interesting question what would you do if you met an Extraterrestrial (peaceful contact). ~Mackyle Wotring
Little surprised Steven Greer and his CE5 app didn't come up. Lurking around the UFO circles, that's the most common spiritual thing there I typically see.
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Given that UFO religions are often based around 1st generational experiencers who can be interviewed about that experience on camera, aren't these religions more valid in a historical lens? Doesn't the distance of time so damage our ability to know the truth of so many religions in a way it doesn't with UFO religions? The comparison in the validity of a modern first-hand witness to say Christianity which is a religion based on a 2,000 year old account of Paul's visions of Jesus just can't really be made.
@@josearmandovalenciayoga That would be interesting.
It's cool that you are tackling this topic. I personally would LOVE to hear your thoughts on the book "Passport to Magonia" by Jaques Vallée. He is one of the very few serious scientists who researched the UFO phenomenon. Ironically, he came to very different conclusions than most other "science-minded" people in that field.
Or do "American Cosmic" by D. W. Pasulka. There is more to this topic than you probably think.
From my own research as a Regression Hypnotherapist I can tell you first hand = Reincarnation - Past Lives - Heaven - is a Real thing. And also Alien contact is a Real thing as well. Man made religions will have to evolve now that the UFO Alien reality is coming true from the US Government with UFO whistle blowers telling the Truth like Captain David Grusch admitting the US military has Alien UFO wreckage and bodies.
Thank you for approaching this as a serious subject and not in a tongue in cheek way. It was extremely interesting to watch.
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Totally agree. This was a serious explanation of the phenomenon as it is. This is how it should be studied and presented.
Indeed. The mockery is already large and loud enough. I am relieved that they were taken seriously this time.
@@mikkapassos9802 this was bugging me a lot actually. Why are people with this kind of belief being ridiculed, but people who are in "mainstream religions" are OK. Especially in sciences. If you are scientist, let's say astrophysici, and you belive in ETs, you'll get kicked out of academia, but if you are a Christian, it's OK.
Perhaps one for the factors is that people who belive in ETs are also trying to disprove science and government through conspiracy theories and are therefore labeled as potentially dangerous or at lest not reliable, while average Christian doesn't try to undermine authorities and is acceptable by the society even in countries with high percentage of atheists.
@@JustSpectre christian creationist aren't kicked too? If yes, maybe for the same reason you pointed out. They question the credibility of well stablished stuff in science and therefore academic authority in general. Correct me if I am wrong.
Thank god for religion for breakfast, I’m starving
Yeas, thank 👽 for this channel, indeed
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@@ken-oo4euI think they were also joking (“aloud” - “loud”)
Preach, brother
Same! Happened to be eating breakfast while watching this.
It's amazing how many spiritual movements can be traced back to Theosophy. It's like the Kevin Bacon of cults.
Pretty much every new religious movements can either be traced back to Theosophy, the Hermetic Order of the Golden Dawn, or the Second Great Awakening.
It goes back even earlier to adventurers and orientalists who would (often) misinterpret some stories or artifacts they encountered and brought back from far-away places (popular in 1800s and beyond). I think some fairy stories have become UFO/Bigfoot type of stories, too. There are many other sources... Theosophy and Golden Dawn offshoots got some big time press, too. The Rosicrucians got some press. Alchemists got some press, etc.
and its all a more jumbled up version of masonry
Most 'New Age' beliefs, if they don't come from an existing major religion, seem to come from either Theosophy, Spiritualism, or, strangely enough, the fiction of HP Lovecraft, which seems to be the origin of the common trope "this myth is really talking about aliens".
Theosophy does have a lot of descendants as does Thelema (Aleister Crowley's philosophy) but in general most groups are in some way or another descents of various Masonic rites (both regular and accepted ones like the standard 3 degrees of Blue Lodge and irregular ones like Memphis Misraim or the OTO). In turn Masonry gets a lot from Neoplatonism and Greek Mystery Schools. Oh then there's also Rosicrucianism in its many different purported incarnations (the only one I give any credence to these days is SRIA and its affiliates outside England like SRIC in Canada)
Only just started the video when writing this, but the "A" in UAP was recently changed from "Aerial" to "Anomalous" to cover more types of strange occurrences.
It's funny--that quote about "rendering the familiar unfamiliar and the unfamiliar familiar" is one I've usually heard in association with the writing of science fiction! lol
Oh interesting. Yeah, religious studies scholars like quoting it all the time.
Doesn't it go all the way back to expressionism?
My mother has been talking about UFO’s since I can remember. It’s really hard for me to acknowledge her ideas as a legitimate belief. Your video helped me realize how narrow minded I have been. I’m going to put in more effort to hear her feelings even if I have trouble understanding the details. Thank you for the video.
He was not saying it was a legitimate belief. He was only describing the phenomenon that people were organizing religions around such beliefs.
But yes, it's probably always kind to hear what your mother wants to say, whatever you think of it
@@Robespierre-lI "people were organizing religions around such beliefs" I think thats what meimei meant by 'legitimate belief', as in, the psychological phenomenon/belief system occurring in his mother's head and in her UFO community is comparable to "standard" religions.
She's wacky in the same way that any other religious person may be, just without a millennia of tradition backing her up. And acknowledging this psychological process, it might be compassionate as a loving relative to maybe not entertain her ideas, but at least empathize and understand where she's coming from.
It is a bunch a gibberish, but to be honest i think knowing more about anything is almost always good.
I am a Londoner, and I lived most of my life in Fulham, a bit of a down at heel area, but nowadays very prosperous. A long time ago, an old shop in the high street suddenly re-opened as “ The Aetherius Society”. Run by one man initially, it involved praying to our space brothers by using a “battery”. That followers would fill up with their prayers at meetings, and then they would all go out somewhere and have a ceremony and “release” the “energy” in case the space brothers came for a visit, and a cup of tea and a biscuit. Very polite and British.
Aliens are demons. Call upon the Lord Jesus Christ and thou shalt be Saved! Read John. Get a King James Bible and believe.
sounds like a cult
King, founder of that society, referring to Venus and Mars as sources of alien contact is _so_ 50s. Once we discovered how barren those places are, both science fiction and paranormal speculations moved their subject matter further afield.
@@Preetvndsounds more like an excuse for a social cuppa and a bikkie. (Cup of tea and a cookie?).
Never underestimate the power of a hot drink and lonely people.
Lol. Hilarious. In Fulham?
Another group that you could look at is the Vale do Amanhecer from Brazil. It started in the Global South and was heavily influenced by Spiritism, Christianity, and Umbanda. It was established around Brasilia by a Brazil's first female truck driver. One of the more fascinating things is that they have male-female priest teams. The female priest gets the messages from the divine aliens and the male priest interprets that message.
Edited - Corrected Spiritualism and Spiritism.
What's Umbanda?
@@rmt3589 Afro-Brazilian religion
Bro we had a guy in germany, Dr Axel Stoll (R.I.P.) and he had theories and books about UFOs that we built in WW2 and how womans hair can recieve extra terrestial signals. If everyone has the same ideas there must be something true behind it
@the original poster, don't you mean "Spiritism"? The more scientific approach to spiritualism? I remember reading up on Brazilian UFO cults and seeing that there was a major distinction between Spiritism and Spiritualism.
@@Mr.InbetweenFX what was the distinction?
Your channel is amazing, is so rare to seee good video essays about anthropology.
Just a slight correction: Ken Arnold said that the objects were flying as discs (frisbee), not that they were shaped like one. The actual form described by him was a cigar, a cilinder. The headlines at the time didnt care for it and hence a lot of people saw flying saucers on the sky
11:38 that subtle diss at Ancient Aliens was brutal
I love your concluding remarks and I'm so happy that this channel exists to bring religious literacy to a large audience
This is such a rabitthole to fell into, glad to see a not crazy dive into it, and as always, so great to see one of your videos
Very shallow actually
I'd love a deep dive into it!!!
One group I'm surprised not to see mentioned here is the Urantia Book movement. It's one of the earlier religious movements based on contacts with beings beyond Earth, with the first Papers being channeled through the anonymous contactee sometime in the 1920s, long predating the claims of George Adamski or Betty and Barney Hill.
So many cults, so little time....
[Suspicious side-eye towards Celestial Seasonings tea.]
@@obsidianjane4413I mean, some groups which use the Urantia Papers as a central text do meet the standard definition of a high control group. So do some groups which use the Bible or the Zend Avesta as their central text. Overall one of the defining features of the Urantia movement is how decentralized it is: there are of course groups that exist to promulgate and promote the text, like the original Urantia Foundation and the Urantia Book Fellowship, but these aren't analogous to Christian sects in that they aren't in opposition to each other or hold any mutually exclusive beliefs. The Urantian community takes the form moreso of a loosely connected network of believers working from the same material than a single leader dictating the beliefs to a flock. In the past some people have used it to try and start some more apocalyptically focused groups, but those groups did what apocalyptic groups tend to do 99% of the time and fizzled out without incident.
The Urantia Book is simply an enigma, that's how I would describe it.
I don't think there is a cohesive group connected to that book, even though I could be wrong, for all I know it's simply a mysterious and unexplained book that fascinates many different people in many different ways.
@@robertborland5083they're a VERY odd company, but their teas are SOOOO good....
As usual a balanced, non-judgemental assesment. Thank you.
I can't tell you how much I love your channel.
Perfect timing with the David Grusch interview! 👌
Great channel. Keep it up
I saw one in 1985 in Ireland, and it moved like nothing else I’ve ever seen. Sharp angular turns, hovering, floating, and finally shooting out and away straight outwards towards space in a blink of an eye.
What shape and color was it and how long did the event last
Noice
When aliens come I wanna get an alien girlfriend and join the interspecies breeding program.
Wonderful video, very interesting. I did have a few questions.
You mention how UFO religions came out of the anxieties of the Cold War and nuclear Armageddon. Are there any examples or academic research being done into new religions coming out of the anxieties about climate change? I know that I have seen some very interesting and sometimes peculiar rhetoric coming out of the solarpunk community.
You mention how religious studies give us an example to look at and examine religion in a way that can help us move past our own biases and prejudices. So far you've covered religions from all around the globe but I was wondering if you think you'll ever do a video about the mainstream LDS faith. I sometimes feel that so much attention is given to Fringe offshoots of the LDS community like the flds, that there is very little attention given to the actual mainstream group.
The conversation that exists seems to be completely centered around the negative experiences of ex members, which is no less legitimate but very slanted towards particular view and not very charitable. UA-cam content creators seem to parrot some of these ideas and portray members of that faith as some kind of cartoonish villains, views they seem to share with many Protestant groups who have historically hated Mormons. I remember after 9/11 how some of the fear towards Muslims seemed to redirect towards a fear of Mormons as a home grown threat akin to fears of Zionism in the early 20th century.
This seems a shame to me because so many Mormons occupy important positions in the government and military inside of the United States, especially relative to the percentage of the population they represent. Views so biased against Mormons, or the few blindly supporting them, seem to stand in the way of an objective understanding of their impact in American and Global culture.
Finally, is there any study of the Hotep movement as a religious force in African diaspora communities? Much of the dialogue there seems religiously slanted as well.
Although I may not have patreon I still wanna support your content and watch your videos to help you continue these interesting projects!
The mountain in Washington is Mt. Rainier pronounced Rainy-er. You pronounced it all French like which may be the original pronunciation. Another very informative overview!
content has been on fire! keep up the great work
This is a perfect time to cover this topic, considering current events, even without mentioning them specifically 😅
I think one of the most interesting things about UFO experiences is how similar they are to faery, and other spiritual, encounter experiences such as visions of the Virgin Mary, but with modern/scientific-sounding explanation of aliens, rather than the older explanation of spirits.
I find that a point in favor of some of these being real experiences of spirits, interpreted as aliens; although it could also work the other way, or be third option that has to be interpreted through the mental framework of the human experiencing it.
you should read some books by Jacques Vallee, since he expresses an extremely similar conclusion. Passport to Magonia is good start, but there are some things that even Vallee was duped by that you must see through, like the Israeli psychic. Nonetheless, Vallee’s inquisitive mind points to incredibly intriguing conclusions
@@antaliano7947 nice! I’ve heard of Vallee, but haven’t read him!
I don’t have any opinion on Geller (although i do have a signed, bent, spoon from him), but it’s interesting that the things like spoon bending that he’s famous for, where never part of what was tested at SRI, because they also thought it was just a magic trick.
Carl Sagan, in his book the Demon-haunted World, talked extensively about this very specific topic. I totally recommend it.
In the Islamic world, encounters with Jinn cover much the same ground. As with near-death experiences, perhaps these encounters are 'real' on some non-physical level, but are perceived and interpreted through the lens of personality, culture, history, expectation, etc.
Well, it you think about it, there's a strong connection between extraterrestrial and interdimensional beings that came from a different reality.
Well done as always. Thank you for the information.
I was waiting for this paticular topic to be discussed thanks.😊
If you don’t already know it, the podcast “Oh no, Ross and Carrie,” has delved into many of these religions. They do excellent and thorough work.
This is a fascinating topic.
As someone who is somewhat of a "deist", believing Gods law for sentient beings is a basic and in built knowledge of right and wrong and the ability reason, extraterrestrial life would only further strengthen my belief in a creator/creative force.
My views are still agnostic whether this force intervenes with creation or not but it is something I enjoy thinking about.
The concept of a Great Architect of the Universe is pretty much just a 'god' that tells you to become a little god yourself, since he's not the aristotelian God that is being, good and purpose itself
Religion makes me hungry, and Andrew is the one that feeds me. Thanks for keeping me alive Andrew!
The Cargo Cult was an interesting variation on these elements. If anyone is interested, it is worth a search.
Yes I think cargo cults would be a great idea for a follow up video
This is a good parallel!
very interesting! zeller's point is a good one, I hadn't considered that.
I was also happy to catch a glimpse of spock's back and kirk's face 😁
This channel has the most insightful content. We appreciate your dedication and consistency.
I had a UFO experience once, but the aliens just got out and laughed at me :(
I don't think you were dealing with the top brass.
They thought you had a small package
Did they call you feo or wey.???
You aren't even worth probing
I don’t think they would want to probe a 300 lb minecraft player who owns a forced history server
2b2t on top 🥶
In the late 50ies, C. G. Jung wrote a book which was translated as Flying Saucers: A Modern Myth of Things Seen in the Skies .
I read it a few years ago, but thanks to watching this video today, I realise now that he was approaching the topic of UFOs in a similar way as the modern religionists do, only from a psychologist's perspective. He did not ask whether the flying saucers were real or not, but what can these experiences reveal about the (collective) unconscious of the people of that times. An interesting guy indeed.
"Collective unconscious" is a big unscientific and absurd piece of sophistry. All social phenomena have their origin in culture. And all human cultures share some aspects because they are all HUMAN cultures. We are a single species and we share our way of looking at the external world.
I met a Raelian one time, although until I saw this video, I wouldn't have known he was a Raelian. But what you said is pretty much exactly what he believed.
Hugh Urban was one of my favorite professors! Exciting to hear him quoted!
Fantastic video
My grandparents and Dad are still members of Unarius. I ended up leaving it at 21 to eventually convert to Judaism. If you ever want to do a video on it, I’d be happy to give you the inside track.
Call upon the Lord Jesus Christ and thou shalt be Saved! Read John. Get a King James Bible and believe. Read Matthew.
@@MichaelAChristian1 jesus believed in judaism ?
@@chrisrendon461 "Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me.
And ye will not come to me, that ye might have life.
I receive not honour from men.
But I know you, that ye have not the love of God in you.
I am come in my Father's name, and ye receive me not: if another shall come in his own name, him ye will receive.
How can ye believe, which receive honour one of another, and seek not the honour that cometh from God only?
Do not think that I will accuse you to the Father: there is one that accuseth you, even Moses, in whom ye trust.
For had ye believed Moses, ye would have believed me; for he wrote of me.
But if ye believe not his writings, how shall ye believe my words?"- John chapter 5 verses 39 to 47.
"The Lord thy God will raise up unto thee a Prophet from the midst of thee, of thy brethren, like unto me; unto him ye shall hearken;
According to all that thou desiredst of the Lord thy God in Horeb in the day of the assembly, saying, Let me not hear again the voice of the Lord my God, neither let me see this great fire any more, that I die not.
And the Lord said unto me, They have well spoken that which they have spoken.
I will raise them up a Prophet from among their brethren, like unto thee, and will put my words in his mouth; and he shall speak unto them all that I shall command him.
And it shall come to pass, that whosoever will not hearken unto my words which he shall speak in my name, I will require it of him."- Deuteronomy chapter 18 verses 15 to 19.
"For I know that after my death ye will utterly corrupt yourselves, and turn aside from the way which I have commanded you; and evil will befall you in the latter days; because ye will do evil in the sight of the Lord, to provoke him to anger through the work of your hands.
And Moses spake in the ears of all the congregation of Israel the words of this song, until they were ended."- Deuteronomy chapter 31 verses 29 to 30.
"They provoked him to jealousy with strange gods, with abominations provoked they him to anger.
They sacrificed unto devils, not to God; to gods whom they knew not, to new gods that came newly up, whom your fathers feared not.
Of the Rock that begat thee thou art unmindful, and hast forgotten God that formed thee.
And when the Lord saw it, he abhorred them, because of the provoking of his sons, and of his daughters.
And he said, I will hide my face from them, I will see what their end shall be: for they are a very froward generation, children in whom is no faith.
They have moved me to jealousy with that which is not God; they have provoked me to anger with their vanities: and I will move them to jealousy with those which are not a people; I will provoke them to anger with a foolish nation."- Deuteronomy chapter 32 verses 16 to 21.
You moved from one superstition to an another , great job 😂😂
@@MichaelAChristian1 bro i ain’t reading that 😂 you have to read scripture written by man to be a good person
Very interesting video, comparing UFO religions to other more traditional religions helps make more sense of them.
I'm interested in the concept of hyper-real religiosity and its presence in other major religions. I'm not a religious person, but from what i've read from the New Testament for example, I can't shake the idea that sometimes it reads a lot like a form of entertainment that later transformed into a core belief of christianity. And in modern days I can think of how movies or even advertising have shaped the idea of what Christmas is, for example. Maybe that's not what the concept goes for, but it sounds like an interesting phenomenon.
The Gospels took stories of the culture around, like Homer, and those type of stories as well as religious stories, so yes, it happened in the same way. Christianity is a bit special though, it tries to explain everything, while other religions were more humble usually, so they were mostly just real, not hyper real. Ufos are just Christianity for materialists.
Or non canonical “fan fiction” like Dante’s Inferno or Paradise Lost. Or even the real life Jedi religion. We just have to wait until Chris Hemsworth claims he’s the living incarnation of Thor and starts a cult
@@OneLine122the gospels didn't take anything anywhere. Rome and the Catholic Church took religion everywhere with the points of their swords.
It's a cultivated identity used to control populations. That's what they were invented for, by the ruling classes, and what they're still used for, by the ruling class. And you're thinking of fanaticism. Like a little girl at a Justin Bieber concert.
I can only offer personal experience here, but I absolutely have been shaped on some level by the media I watch and consume, philosophically speaking. It’s probably not that huge of a step for myself or someone else to shift those experiences into a core belief and from there into a religion
Amazing work! I saw a really close ufo that I prayed to see while my dad was still alive. It was really close. The Glory
Many interesting technical terms in this Video!
Great content as usual. Thanks.
Enjoyed it. Thanks andrew
Crazy how far folks are willing to stretch belief in order to answer the age old question. Just accept that we don't have an answer. And there may be no answer
Exactly
What exactly was the question again?
@@karlscher5170 in this case I'd say are we alone in the universe? As well as....why are we here?
@@Mettle_DAD 1. Probably not
2. If we wouldn't be here we wouldn't ask that question.
Theosophy didn't just influence UFO religions, it arguably was one, at least marginally (See the "chariot of the Sons of the Fire, the Lords of the Flame from Venus" in Annie Besant's _Man: Whence, How and Whither_ from 1913).
Maybe, but that would make Hinduism 🕉 one as well by the same logic.
Interesting on PBS Space Time they were assessing the likelihood of alien species and the consensus was that the universe is only just old enough for complex sentient life which means unfortunately we may be the first or I’ve of the first species to be able to perceive the universe in an intelligent way.
Saw that one. On one hand it is depressing to know that we will never meet those wise alien teachers. On the other hand it is fun to think that a few billion years from now some alien scientist will stumble upon the remains of earth, dig one of my gold teeth out of the dirt, hold it up and exclaim "Behold! This belonged to one of the Ancients! A species so wise and powerful they reigned over the Galaxies for millions of years." and another one will counter "Careful! Ancient body implants can turn you to dust in a second!"
Mind you all talk like this is basically speculation, informed speculation perhaps but since there's still so much we don't know about the emergence of life it's hard for us to say anything for certain.
They were wrong, theres already intelligent alien species among us.
There a very interesting book about this sort of thing called American Cosmic: UFOs, Religion, Technology
by D.W. Pasulka who is a professor of religious studies UNC. It is a great read for people who are interested in this topic!
brilliant coverage
I think the algorithm was shadow banning you from my feed because I have notifications on but I’m only seeing this today, only to find out I haven’t seen about 5 of your previous videos.
Every era and age has its gods and monsters. They came from the sky, the woods and now space. Nothing changes.
Don’t forget Atlantis. Graham Hancock wouldn’t forgive you
How long until people start worshipping ChatGPT, I wonder 🤔 😋
3:15 if I saw that guy and he asked me to do ANYTHING other than check out his new-age-funk band, I'd smile so wide and say "naaahh naaahhh" repeatedly while backing away🤣
UFO religions is something really wild. I remember sometimes in my country there are fliers of Hercolubus, and whenever they appear I keep wondering if NASA discovered something.
But this discussion of the relevance of these kind of religions is important. I have a degree in economics and I give credence to the idea that economics itself is a religion, there's this book called Economics as Religion that makes a quite interesting argument.
The ability of UFOs to cause the most sophisticated cameras to only takes blurry pictures makes me think the aliens have god like powers.
Good point 😅
From all that anxiety of the 50s and early 60s, we got some television shows about visitors from other worlds:
The Adventures of Superman;
My Favorite Martian.
Lol thanks for finally just calling Ancient Aliens science fiction. Makes it way more fun to watch in that context.
I always found it odd that the Comment Section of most UFO videos had evangelicals battling it out with the 'I wanna believe' X-Files crowd. Now it makes sense
Grifters and delusionals competing for money and attention. 🤠
I was waiting for you to make a video on this, I was always interested in this topic. Especially Raëlianism.
We are a funny species of primates. We (for the most part) are flawed thinkers/ poor personal historians and it’s interesting see how people gravitate towards certain beliefs;UFOs, Mormonism, a little wafer literally becoming the body of Christ, the moon being split into two, and so much more! It’s partially why I love this channel! I enjoy the objective approach and I learn a lot.
Professor, could you do a video on the Cargo Cult that sprang up after WWII in the Pacific? It’s a very fascinating (to me) religious belief.
we're the best primates in history, maybe the best animal in the universe.
I second that!
I mean, I don’t think it’s inherently wrong to believe things out of faith, the issue is when our tribalism takes us to join cults or the like, but although I don’t believe in all the alien stuff I find it harmless on itself, the only thing that personally bothers me is when some people try to explain why it’s okay for them to appropriate historical and religious figures because they were aliens in their view, and I strongly disagree with that
The Cargo Cult is the best cult and nobody can tell me otherwise
@@user-tm8jt2py3d define 'best'
My eldest uncle, who is very into UFOs got angry at my on a family dinner because u said "i think believing in aliens it's the 21 century new religion"...
Hey I saw that press briefing! (I watch most of them ^^)
4:30 Aetherius sounds a whole lot like the ancient Greek word "aether", the _stuff_ that was thought to fill "outer space" before we realized it was a vacuum.
5:17 And Uriel is an archangel.
Great video. By the way, UAP is not a 'new term' for UFO. It includes weather phenomena and optical illusions. UFO can still be used when the object is positively identified as flying.
"The Jimmer was abducted by aliens, but that wasn't why he was famous - we get about 2 or 3 of those a month. It was his capacity for drinking that made him famous."
- Escanaba in da Moonlight
There was once a kid in Brazil that disappeared in Acre and came back as a prophet of aliens
rsrsrs o menino do acrE? E a historia dos garotos mortos no Mato Grosso e no Pará pelo grupo/Seita LUS sinistro. O MOvimento racional, vale do amanhecer também são grupos ufo br. Sem contar uma galera ai de jovens misticos que tem recebido mensagens desse brother do espaço. rsrs
Let me guess… people started throwing money into his pockets?
@@desiderata8811 we memed him to death.
Could these movements have similarities to cargo cults?
The same thought occurred to me.
They do. There is one big difference between cargo cults and UFO cults: Airplanes and American GIs actually did/do exist. Flying saucers and these green or gray space men do not. However, with both, those "left behind" (actual or imagined) pray to those who once gave them the "cargo" for the "cargo" that they want. Peace and love. Power to (do something esoteric). End to all of the world's problems. Teach us to jump ahead to their technology. It's wishful thinking, and unlikely to work as well for UFO believers as it did to the primitive tribespeople of cargo cults.
Most definitely.
14:43 Yes, it happened. I was there. Our Lady has appeared to us and she would appear in many other places too.
"Forget the 'Extra', we're Terrestrials - we've been here the whole time developing technology under your nose." 😂
I think one thing that will be interesting to see in the next several years is if there will be AI-based religions that emerge. Visiting some of the AI/singularity forums these days gives almost religious evangelism vibes. Some of them believe that AI will bring either doom or a golden age. They view super intelligent AI almost as if a God that the world itself is going to create. The undercurrent of economic/technological anxieties definitely seems to drive some of the hope/fear that AI will solve problems with an almost divine solution.
That together with people submitting religious texts and icons to AI as prompts or learning material and thinking they're obtaining some new insight out of the results.
1:09 Sorry but is the spike really on May 2022 or am I reading the timeline wrong?
Thanks for the video. Another name worth mentioning in this would perhaps be Erich von Däniken (who is also a convicted fraudster BTW) who popularised with his books the idea that aliens must have been responsible for many ancient archaeological monuments. Because apparently ancient humans would have been too dumb and primitive to create large scale, sophisticated earthworks and such. I remember my grandfather (he passed away in the 1980s already) being deep into these theories. He devoured those books. Of course it's all pseudoscience at best, with a sprinkling of racism added for flavour...
Pyramids: Must be aliens.
Gobelki Tepe: Clearly aliens were here.
Sumerian Cuneiform: Aliens handed down writing to these ignorant cave-dwellers.
Stonehenge: .... ..... Hm? Oh! Sorry. Nah, that was white people.
Nobody:
Not a single soul:
The History Channel: *ANCIENT ASTRONAUT THEORISTS SUGGEST--*
@@anotherhuman8173 I swear to science I heard the narrator when I read that, and I've never even watched a single episode.
If I can pivot a computer hutch across my carpeted floor, people in ancient times could move mountains-worth of stone.
Don't forget Steven Greer and the completely faith based "information" be spews. He's the ultimate version of "Trust me bro" in the UFO community.
this was a most unexpected, and yet incredibly amusing episode... !
Yesterday was the UFO hearing in congress where they admitted aliens were real and that bodies have been found 😂😂
The jack Parsons influence in scientology should have been mentioned in my opinion
more so Kenneth Grant's Typhonian OTO, to my knowledge Parsons had no real interest in aliens or UFOs but I'd love to be wrong about that if you know something on the topic
@@thishandleistacken tbh it could be more so his students than him
Very interesting subject because it shows us how religions are originally formed and fulfil the existential need in people. I do believe there are other intelligent being in the universe because of the Fermi paradox but I don't think they might be here, and to be honest if they're anything like us it's more a thread than savours, look at Columbus arriving to America.
If humanity ever encounters aliens, it's also plausible that we are the bad guys / a threat to them.
Jesus Christ created all things. Call upon the Lord Jesus Christ and thou shalt be Saved!
A viking, a reptile, a cat, a praying mantis, a blue bird, a different blue guy and a dolphiny lollipop lookin goblin walk into a bar
Could we get a video where you dive into one of these ufo religion?
Love alien related stuff. Great channel 💯👌
Jean-Pierre and bug person John Kirby saying there's absolutely no evidence of Aliens is now the greatest piece of evidence indicating the existence of Aliens.
Its really interesting thinking about religious experiences with an UFO-technology lense, but it also sparked my curiosity, is there any scholar or specialist that has tried to explain the UFO experiences with a religious lense? like the prescence of an angel or a saint... it would be a very interesting view on this subject.
Religion for breakfast upload 🎉🎉🎉
can you do a video on the religion of the video game called "scorned"? It seems similar to this
I'm not trying to come off as rude here, but when you showed that massive spike in views on your 2016 video you said it was during May of 2022, however on the graph the spike is shown to have been between February 3, 2021 and April 5, 2022. I was just wondering if this was a mistake or not, and I don't mean to sound disrespectful, I'm just curious! No matter what I still enjoy your content and can't wait for your next video!
You should do a video on transhumanism and beliefs in the technological singularity.
Anyone else notice how Andrew casually lumped Ancient Aliens together with Star Trek and the X Files? 😂
Omg, a friend of mine was a total Raëlianist. Was pretty sad, really, he was always panicking. =(
I think there is very much a difference if a religion has been practiced for thousands of years or if people just heard of Hinduism for the first time in the seventies and got confused
Hindus follow the snake. Call upon the Lord Jesus Christ and thou shalt be Saved! Read John. Get a King James Bible and believe.
His name is pronounced rah-EHL. It has two syllables. It is based on "Israel" from the Hebrew Scriptures with him just using "Rael." Also, "Rael" typically has two dots over the letter "e" to indicate a new syllable like Noël, so Raël.
From my understanding, they officially changed it. No longer uses umlauts (per their official website).
@@ReligionForBreakfast Nah, they just don't know how to use the keyboard .
Always fabulous ❣️
Thanks so much for your clear video and explanation. Always a bliss to watch you, as well as very handsome ❤🥰✅
in a fan fiction of the X files, they drew a direct comparison between the fairy abductions and fairy rings- to the UFO abductions and the crop circles or "landing marks" teh same stories have occurred for hundreds of years.
my favorite is musical: "I thought that they were angels, but to my surprise... we climbed aboard their starship, and headed for the skies!"
Amazing presentation of a very niche topic. I know many people who believe extraterrestrials are advanced spiritual, as well as physical, beings. I also study this phenomenon and there is an interesting link between psychedelics and extraterrestrial encounters. My personal opinion is that during these altered states of consciousness human mind evokes certain images, which are then interpreted based one's cultural background. One person might call these encounters spirits, other gods and some extraterrestrials as you have pointed out in the talk.
Aliens are demons. Call upon the Lord Jesus Christ and thou shalt be Saved! Read John.
Human brains are extremely biased towards pattern seeking so when something like a drug trip creates what is essentially random noise through neuron misfiring the brain will still seek to interpret that as if it is real based on prior experiences. So it probably isn't surprising that people living in technological societies tend to see technological shapes while those living in pre-industrial societies saw natural shapes. And of course someone living in a technological society is likely to reach for the kinds of explanations a technological society tends to offer, which will look like a mix of garbled science and pop culture.
Fascinating!
9:49 This gets at something I find annoying about ancient astronaut theorists/UFO religions. Rarely do they try to understand imagery found in ancient writing/art within the cultural context from which they were created. Everything must be a misinterpretation by ancient peoples of sci fi tech. It not only dismissive of ancient people's intelligence as often said, but also denies their ability to creative or just plain weird. Though applying aliens to everything is proof enough modern people can be creative and weird, at least.
Ironically they're displaying the biases of their own time, they live in a world dominated by technology where they constantly see weird and wonderful technology, so they assume this must also have been the case in the past. It's the exact reverse of what they assumed happened, what if instead of an ancient person mistaking technology for the divine because they didn't know much about technology it's the modern person who is mistaking a description of the divine for technology because they are so used to technology.
I really wonder if the Shaver Mysteries didn't serve as a transition between the more purely spiritual Theosophy and the more physicalist UFO religions. Ray Palmer boosted Kenneth Arnold's report of flying crescents "skipping like saucers" through the sky because Palmer thought that Arnold's sighting supported Shaver's accounts.
Did you put this video together in a week as a response to the David Grusch interviews? Or-seeing as this is only your second ever video about UAPs-is it fortuitous timing?
Well it's very recently a trending topic, so I think it makes sense he would mention it. It's not only the supposed "whistleblower" that made headlines in the news regarding UFOs/UAPs. The Pentagon held a UAP conference which Canada attended for the first time and there was the wildly viral news story of the family in Vegas claiming (seems to be mostly their teenage sons) that had a vivid experience with aliens. It would make sense for him to address this as it's a relevant cultural topic at the moment.
@@amdonut8091 For sure, it’s just that RFB normally plans videos months in advance.
@@rdklkje13 oh gotcha. Yeah I think he's just jumping on the topic before its gone.
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Thank you for this informative video! I do have an interesting question what would you do if you met an Extraterrestrial (peaceful contact).
~Mackyle Wotring
Little surprised Steven Greer and his CE5 app didn't come up. Lurking around the UFO circles, that's the most common spiritual thing there I typically see.