I feel like the random headshot rate got nerfed a bit a few patches ago. They still happen, but bullets sometimes felt like they were magnetized to helmets back then. Haha
My best headshot to this day is 1 round from my mp40 at 198 yards. On Utah beach. Having a recon duel with my buddy. I was spotter. Found the guy, guessed the bullet drop and somehow landed the headshot.
idk why that is the guns fault. I wouldnt put the fg42 over STG in the same class but a bipod, semi auto selector, and 4 more mags would be S tier.@@commandercrane1945
Bren gun is pretty good in medium to long range and if you can be on the move, the bipod provides the flexibility if you tryna shoot stable, I’d choose it over Lewis gun anytime.
I think the PPSH was ranked appropriately. It's not a bad gun, but none of the Russian maps favor it. Russian maps are notorious for being long range fighting. There's pockets of house fighting but not big enough to warrant it over a rifle. When they make an urban Soviet map I will reconsider it being ranked higher but putting it as average is appropriate.
The m1 carbine being put over the MP40 genuinely hurt my soul. Also, as someone who "mains" assault, specifically raider class, the grease gun deserves an automatic fucking F tier. I mean if you're comparing it to the other raider classes that have the PPSH, STG, and Bren gun, it literally does not even compare.
I’m hoping they change the last loadout for the assault class for the American forces someday. Swapping the grease gun for the BAR would be great, but even swapping it for the Thompson would bring it a bit more in line with the other factions’ loadouts for that level.
@@Dallas_2250 If the automatic rifleman class gets the STG on german side, and so does assault lvl 9, you'd assume that the assault class for americans would get the BAR instead of the grease gun lmao
idk what you are talking about. the grease gun is my go to gun for the americans, i understand why on paper its the worst smg, but in practice the gun feels so good and in my opinion the only time you will be outclassed by the mp40 is in very close quarters (clearing a house or a trench). also its a headshot machine with non existent recoil and a very decent sight picture
@@crowz6898 "The only time it will be outclassed is in close quarters" hmmm. Well the gun, and assault class, is kind of MADE for you to play in close quarters lmao. Its fire rate is so slow I can unironically shoot an m1 garand faster than the grease gun, and in comparison to the other raider classes, the grease gun is dogshit. STG is a 1 shot with faster fire rate, bren gun is a 1 shot, and the ppsh has an insane fire rate.
I used to be an M1 Carbine hater, now im a die hard user. It can pop headshots from miles away, and its excellent in close quarters with its fast rate of fire, 1-2 shot kill, and no recoil. Body shots from distance are the only time it feels terrible, which can happen a lot unfortunately
It's wild to me how different our rankings would be on 80% of the guns. Just different inclinations for everyone. At least we can all agree Garand is easily #1
I personally think the FG42 should be allowed to have its bipod for the classes it’s assigned too, even the scoped one. The BAR on the Machine gunner class should be the later model with carry handle and bipod. And I agree with the flamethrower. It should burn buildings and bunkers because that’s what it was used for. Cleaning out fortified positions. Pistols need a buff. The Walter P38 and PO8 need recoil nerfs because it’s a 9m (and pretty much the same thing) the negant revolver and Colt .45 auto need to be one shot kill to the chest at close range. Not sure about the Tokrev (Soviet semi auto pistol) Would love if they added the PPSH that had its rate of fire slowed to conserve ammunition though
Bro love your videos but I’m being 100% honest here you seem like your having a bit of a struggle on this video mainly the commentary. Still though keep it up man.
@@commandercrane1945 Respect to you for just sending it and making a video man! On a real side, do you write down bullet points on what you’re talking on, or write a script? Or are you winging it? Have you ever thought of having someone help you proofread/spice up your writing before you make a video? I’d love to help with that somehow!
@@commandercrane1945 Please do! I’m a irl vet with a passion for writing, speaking, and war history, and I play this game more than I’d like to admit! The prospect of a challenge, and helping out Commander Crane? How can I resist!
It's a lot of fun to use but an SMG is better in most cases. If you're at the right distance from the enemy the pellets will spread out just enough that you can almost always get one shot kills even if your aim is sub par, but that doesn't happen much.
The Bren is better than the Lewis gun because in a defensive position, it has better FOV because your irons don’t obscure wtf you’re shooting at. Furthermore, Automatic Rifleman can also use the Bren gun and it is essentially a better BAR. Quick kills, deployable for 2 classes, has 10 more rounds per magazine than the BAR, and faster fire rate than the STG.
The Bren occluding the whole right side of your vision is what everyone hates. It's hard to react to an enemy when you don't know he is there because he was hidden by your own gun magazine. I suppose you can just make sure you always got a wall on your right side but no other machine gun needs that accomodation. The Lewis gun isn't great but it's at least on par with the other machine guns.
The trench gun - shotgun - is far better than E tier. With one shot instant kill at close range, you don't need more than five shots, as you've already killed everyone before reloading. It's useless at long range, but that's fine. For urban and trenches, it's a B tier.
Respect for putting the M1 Garand in S-tier. It's by far the most versatile weapon in the game. I usually try to join the American side just to use it.
You kinda lost me a little on this when you put the M1 Carbine in B tier and the Kar98 and SMLE in D tier. Both are superior to the M1 Carbine, which is just weak - D or E tier at best!
lost me when he put the mp40 in C tier, besides the guns in S tier, the only gun I would use above it would be mg42 which is situational so I'll probably pick mp40 most of the time
@@squidy4082 I'd take the Kar98k and SMLE over the M1 caribne as it's weak as heck firing 9mm. The M1 Garand is very good and a great-all rounder. However, the Kar98K and SMLE still beats it hands down at range damage. M1 Caribne being above them on this list is criminal in my opinion haha.
The FG42 not having a bipod pretty much ensured it goes unused. Its horrible at long ranges and its definitely worse at short ranges compared to the STG44 and the MP40. A bipod would have been its only redeeming quality.
dude ive been playing on the same server with you for a while now and I just realized I'm subscribed to you haha. I go by dizmul if you remember me in game
Your using the Carbine mosin. There are 4 different mosins in hll. The m1890(fact check) exclusive rifleman, the 91/30, the 91/44( the carbine, also please check if that's it's name, and mosin pu(scoped mosin). The 1890 and 91/30 have the same damage values as all other standard bolt actions, but their sights differ. The carbine has reduced range, only one shotting at limited ranges, but a faster rpm. The other two I mentioned don't have increased rpms compared to other bolt actions.
I will say that the flame thrower is super awesome in some niche scenarios such as clearing a building or bunkers. Although clearing bunkers can also be done with grenades.
Commander, there is a slight error in the Soviet rifles section titled "Mosin Nagant". In this footage, you are firing the M38 variant. This is the fast-bolting one. You however claim that they all bolt at this speed. The 91/38 and the 1891 do not bolt at this speed. For the DP-27, it is also worth noting that the hip fire animation on this MG is the fastest in the game allowing the weapon to be far easier to wield in CQC than other factions.due to there being no delay with the hip fire. Great video, cheers!
Poor flamethrower, needs more love from the devs.. id recommend: •5-10m increase range •2-4 seconds of more fuel •longer burn tine for fuel hitting ground •remove brace mechanic for the weapon.
It’s more bragging rights and a bit of trolling than anything else, although I have racked up 30 + kills and multiple Garry takedowns with it, it’s more for a bit of fun
Pretty much agree with the list but for me personally the mp40 is s tier. Im effective with it 150 to 200 meters, at that range i just aim at the enemies feet.
Some of the item placements on this list are criminal. Like the garand being higher than the gewehr and the grease gun being anywhere higher than f tier
Good Tier List! I would only switch the G43 and the M1 Garand. I prefer the sights, and it has more ammo, and no ping which shows the enemy that I‘m out of ammo
One last thing about the outro : "if i want to sit in a bush and harass advancing enemies, i want the shittiest, most humiliating weapon to do it with"
I'm nearing 1000 hours on HLL, if I had to make a tier list, and put it in order, it would go like this: S tier: Kar98k, M1 Garand, STG-44, SVT-40, Gewehr 43, Thompson SMG. A tier: MP40, PPSH-41, Hand Grenades, Mosin Nagant M91/30, MG42. B tier: FG42(unscoped), MG34, Lee Enfield No1 Mk3, Mosin Nagant m38, Kar98k (scoped). C tier: FG42 (scoped), Lee Enfield No4 Mk1, BAR, M3 Grease gun, Sten. D tier: Shotgun, M1 Carbine, Browning 1919, Bren, Lewis, Springfield 1903. E tier: Molotov Cocktails, DP28, Mosin Nagant M91, flamethrower F tier: Sidearms
Mp40 is the best smg for me by a mile , very well balanced. 30 round magazine, quick reload, accurate out to medium range, Good site picture, controllable rate of fire that's not too slow but doesn't dump the mag.
I get the flamethrower is.mainly used for fun, but I always use it to push and destroy garrisons. Yes, it destroys garrisons just like a antitank and thats why Id put it E
For the most time in a HLL's match, we'll be suppressing the enemy or assisting other teammates instead of hunting enemies for a kill. But still a fun game.
Tbh the Bren Gun is better than you think it is, on account of being able to ADS while standing instead of being exclusive to being deployed. I'd give it a C tier because no other MG with a bipod can do that without being deployed first.
I've just been shot too many times because the magazine was blocking my vision. I'm sure it's alright at long distances and deployed on like el alamein.
The DP-27 and Lewis gun both have 47 round drum magazines in the game. I don't know why you think the Lewis gun holds more? I like the FG-42 and I have heard some people call it the most versatile gun in HLL and I tend to agree with them. It has better sights for pulling off longer ranged shots than the STG-44 and it has a higher rate of fire than the STG, which comes in handy in close quarters sometimes. I also strangely find it easier to control the recoil on the FG-42 than the STG-44 when really laying into full auto fire but that might just might be a me thing. I just wish the FG-42 had a little more ammo to go with it.
Yeah… gotta love the Garand. Biggest downside is it’s a heavy pig to carry, but not a big deal since the gaming mouse weighs the same for every firearm.
Great content as always, appreciate you making these. Unrelated, but in one of your videos I noticed you rotating the angle of the precision strike, does that make any difference?
It determines the direction the plane or planes approach from. You sometimes need to do it to avoid a building. I also try to gave it approach the back of the tank if using it on a tank, but I don’t think that matters.
@@commandercrane1945 thanks! I only paid attention to the projected damage area and haven't considered that it might hit a close building, that explains why I sometimes miss completely.
NO WAY YOU PUT THE KAR98K INTO D TIER GOD DAM YOU MUST SUCK AT THE KAR98 TO PUT IT THERE if I made this I agree with basically all of it BUT I'd put the Kar98 in a bare minimum of an B tier but most likely an A tier
I have to say, holeheartedly disagree. The M1 Carbine e.g. is inferior to the Thompson and Mp40 in almost any regard imo. All three have poor muzzle velocity, damage output is roughly on par, versatility is muuch higher on the SMGs, one tapping is as easy with the Mp40 as the M1. The unscoped FG42 is easily better and more versatile the M1, as well as the choices for MG placement are weird. I think a longer format would have helped you to make your placements more understandable
If you get a handful of HLL vets together to make a tier list, it would be all over the place. I think the ones most people agree with are the top and bottom, everything in the middle is more of, opinions.
@@commandercrane1945 I think a lot the difference in opinions comes from how the guns interact with a persons skill set. If you tend to panic when an enemy randomly shows up at close range you'd likely be better off with an SMG than a semi auto.
I only have a thousand hours but in my opinion the mp40 is a or s tier that thing head shots at 250-300 meters for me regularly and is just so versatile. Like I said it can take people out long range or up close. Lay down suppressive fire or be selective and accurate. It’s one of the best in my opinion.
Pretty much how I would rank them too. My personal preference would be the BAR getting demoted to C tier and promoting the Grease Gun/Thompson/MP40 to B tier.
Based on your own preferences you can forgive some weapon stats so the list changes a lot. For me the MP40 is A tier since the sight is easy for me to use and keep shots on target thanks to the slower ROF. Greasegun is F tier because the sight is so poor i rarely land any shots. I'd put the BAR at S tier for the same reason as the MP40 but with the benefit of 1 hit kills.
@@jamesbennett5189 I have some hit registration or perhaps problems with the sights for the SVT, but otherwise it is good. Seems harder to get long range shots than the m1 garand or gewehr.
The Mark III with the double clip and those beautiful open iron sights is an A tier as far as bolt action goes. Best bolt action in the game for me perosnally. And disagree with the FG42 sniper role not being good for close range. Thing can squad wipe at close range and is easily an S tier at medium to close rnage in the right hands. Its interesting to see peoples differening opinions on the gun ranks though!
For those who put the Kar98 low on their lists, I have just one thing to say. Git gud. I get frequent 10+ kill streaks and have no problem getting 50+ kills in a game with it.
The SMLE should have a higher rate of fire. The mp40 has been nerfed. Bring back realistic damage! The bren gun is heaps better than the Lewis...but the dp27 should be able to aim down sight but with massive recoil
The only redeeming feature of the grease gun is that every bullet seemingly has about a 20% chance of being headshot regardless of range.
Yo wtf i've always felt this
I feel like the random headshot rate got nerfed a bit a few patches ago. They still happen, but bullets sometimes felt like they were magnetized to helmets back then. Haha
I’ve had way too many random headshots with the greasy boy, sometimes across fields
My best headshot to this day is 1 round from my mp40 at 198 yards.
On Utah beach. Having a recon duel with my buddy. I was spotter. Found the guy, guessed the bullet drop and somehow landed the headshot.
@@The_SmorgMani hit a shot like that with the m1911, 178 yards/ meters in my case
Half of these rankings are understandable but the other half can be summarised by “Holy shit never let him cook again”
FG42 automatic would be A tier for me if it had more magazines.
Yes, its rank is mostly due to its low ammo. I almost always run out of ammo when using it.
idk why that is the guns fault. I wouldnt put the fg42 over STG in the same class but a bipod, semi auto selector, and 4 more mags would be S tier.@@commandercrane1945
I relegate it to "playing defense" for that reason. At least then you can have a spot to return to for ammo later.
I would have liked it better if it had select fire, like it had in real life, same for the Stg 44.
Bren gun is pretty good in medium to long range and if you can be on the move, the bipod provides the flexibility if you tryna shoot stable, I’d choose it over Lewis gun anytime.
It's also the only MG that allows you to use sights while not deployed.
@@JohnyX8881Yeah but it's got the same mag cap as the STG44 but removes a good portion of your FOV
No way is the BAR in the same realm as the MG42.
BAR should be in E Tier Like the Bren Gun
@@GFM_hanfDalfboth are fine
I love the bar it’s a sniper and shreds up close with a decent size mag
PPSH not being S tier is a snub. The thing is a headshot magnet, and I dread hearing it when I’m on the other team.
True, I didn't think it matched with the S tiers because it really is not great for long ranges.
@@commandercrane1945PPSH stick mag and drum mag has different stats
@@speedy8501 Really? Like, different damage stats? I'm going to guess the stick is the better variant.
@@tomahawk8890depends on what you’re doing. Offensive mode in Kursk clearing trenches the drum slaps.
I think the PPSH was ranked appropriately. It's not a bad gun, but none of the Russian maps favor it.
Russian maps are notorious for being long range fighting. There's pockets of house fighting but not big enough to warrant it over a rifle. When they make an urban Soviet map I will reconsider it being ranked higher but putting it as average is appropriate.
The m1 carbine being put over the MP40 genuinely hurt my soul. Also, as someone who "mains" assault, specifically raider class, the grease gun deserves an automatic fucking F tier. I mean if you're comparing it to the other raider classes that have the PPSH, STG, and Bren gun, it literally does not even compare.
I’m hoping they change the last loadout for the assault class for the American forces someday. Swapping the grease gun for the BAR would be great, but even swapping it for the Thompson would bring it a bit more in line with the other factions’ loadouts for that level.
Dont sleep on the M1 Carbine
@@Dallas_2250 If the automatic rifleman class gets the STG on german side, and so does assault lvl 9, you'd assume that the assault class for americans would get the BAR instead of the grease gun lmao
idk what you are talking about. the grease gun is my go to gun for the americans, i understand why on paper its the worst smg, but in practice the gun feels so good and in my opinion the only time you will be outclassed by the mp40 is in very close quarters (clearing a house or a trench). also its a headshot machine with non existent recoil and a very decent sight picture
@@crowz6898 "The only time it will be outclassed is in close quarters" hmmm. Well the gun, and assault class, is kind of MADE for you to play in close quarters lmao. Its fire rate is so slow I can unironically shoot an m1 garand faster than the grease gun, and in comparison to the other raider classes, the grease gun is dogshit. STG is a 1 shot with faster fire rate, bren gun is a 1 shot, and the ppsh has an insane fire rate.
M1 carbine being over the MP40 and Thompson is criminal
The shot gun in E teir, but the k98 is higher up. Bro was tweaking on this one
@ I mean I’d put the Kar higher but yea some of the ratings were pretty ass.
KAR98 on D?! are you drunk buddy
bro I know it hurt me so bad
Garand is king
Nah cuz the k98 sucks both in real life and in game
@ 🤡
I used to be an M1 Carbine hater, now im a die hard user. It can pop headshots from miles away, and its excellent in close quarters with its fast rate of fire, 1-2 shot kill, and no recoil. Body shots from distance are the only time it feels terrible, which can happen a lot unfortunately
If I could put the carbine site on the garand that would be the perfect gun
As soon as the MP40 landed in C tier I knew this video was going to be whack. MP40 can dump people at ridiculous ranges. Its at least an A tier
S even
The only flaw this gun had Was the magazine so you couldn't prone well with it in ww2
I absolutely agree. People have their opinions, but this list is wack in my personal opinion. I just had to, smh lol.
Has too much recoil on console
It's wild to me how different our rankings would be on 80% of the guns. Just different inclinations for everyone.
At least we can all agree Garand is easily #1
stg is the best, its much better than the garand in closer quarters
Garand front sight is to thick, D tier
I personally think the FG42 should be allowed to have its bipod for the classes it’s assigned too, even the scoped one.
The BAR on the Machine gunner class should be the later model with carry handle and bipod.
And I agree with the flamethrower. It should burn buildings and bunkers because that’s what it was used for. Cleaning out fortified positions.
Pistols need a buff. The Walter P38 and PO8 need recoil nerfs because it’s a 9m (and pretty much the same thing)
the negant revolver and Colt .45 auto need to be one shot kill to the chest at close range. Not sure about the Tokrev (Soviet semi auto pistol)
Would love if they added the PPSH that had its rate of fire slowed to conserve ammunition though
Putting the M1 Garand at the top of the S-Tier, I see you're a man of culture.
It’s only real downside imo is the B-17 wingspan sized front sight post
Lmfao, so fuckin true @@jackncoke8527
@@jackncoke8527i always found those sights easier to use than any other rifle
No
MG34 has much more controllable hip fire than the MG42. This would have been worthwhile to mention.
I also sometimes use it to confuse the enemy as the mg34 is what is used in tanks
Bro love your videos but I’m being 100% honest here you seem like your having a bit of a struggle on this video mainly the commentary. Still though keep it up man.
Fair, I don’t do this often.
@@commandercrane1945 Respect to you for just sending it and making a video man! On a real side, do you write down bullet points on what you’re talking on, or write a script? Or are you winging it? Have you ever thought of having someone help you proofread/spice up your writing before you make a video? I’d love to help with that somehow!
@@Assault671 It depends, I used a script for this one. Yeah I may take you up on that if I do another project like this.
@@commandercrane1945 Please do! I’m a irl vet with a passion for writing, speaking, and war history, and I play this game more than I’d like to admit! The prospect of a challenge, and helping out Commander Crane? How can I resist!
@@commandercrane1945bro you gotta loosen up a bit and not sound so robotic lol. Love your stuff tho
NO way the shotgun is that low. Outrageous
It's a lot of fun to use but an SMG is better in most cases. If you're at the right distance from the enemy the pellets will spread out just enough that you can almost always get one shot kills even if your aim is sub par, but that doesn't happen much.
It's better than the m1 carbine lol
The Bren is better than the Lewis gun because in a defensive position, it has better FOV because your irons don’t obscure wtf you’re shooting at.
Furthermore, Automatic Rifleman can also use the Bren gun and it is essentially a better BAR. Quick kills, deployable for 2 classes, has 10 more rounds per magazine than the BAR, and faster fire rate than the STG.
The Bren occluding the whole right side of your vision is what everyone hates. It's hard to react to an enemy when you don't know he is there because he was hidden by your own gun magazine. I suppose you can just make sure you always got a wall on your right side but no other machine gun needs that accomodation. The Lewis gun isn't great but it's at least on par with the other machine guns.
He’s got an American bais
I'd take the 98 over the m1 carbine any day.
The trench gun - shotgun - is far better than E tier.
With one shot instant kill at close range, you don't need more than five shots, as you've already killed everyone before reloading. It's useless at long range, but that's fine.
For urban and trenches, it's a B tier.
Respect for putting the M1 Garand in S-tier. It's by far the most versatile weapon in the game. I usually try to join the American side just to use it.
Loved this
Learned a lot actually.
Basically every “did you know” I did not know
2500 hours mostly seeding right?
You kinda lost me a little on this when you put the M1 Carbine in B tier and the Kar98 and SMLE in D tier.
Both are superior to the M1 Carbine, which is just weak - D or E tier at best!
lost me when he put the mp40 in C tier, besides the guns in S tier, the only gun I would use above it would be mg42 which is situational so I'll probably pick mp40 most of the time
Their slow shooting
@@squidy4082 Slow shooting, yet hit like a train? The SMLE is also the quickest bolt action in game.
@@TheGreyWolf94 that’s true but compared to the garand and others
@@squidy4082 I'd take the Kar98k and SMLE over the M1 caribne as it's weak as heck firing 9mm.
The M1 Garand is very good and a great-all rounder. However, the Kar98K and SMLE still beats it hands down at range damage.
M1 Caribne being above them on this list is criminal in my opinion haha.
DP 27 should be able to aim without using bipod just like bren gun. It is even aroud 1kg ligher than bren
Great video! Thanks for the insight and gameplay.
Thank you.
craziest list ive ever seen tbh
The FG42 not having a bipod pretty much ensured it goes unused. Its horrible at long ranges and its definitely worse at short ranges compared to the STG44 and the MP40. A bipod would have been its only redeeming quality.
dude ive been playing on the same server with you for a while now and I just realized I'm subscribed to you haha. I go by dizmul if you remember me in game
I remember seeing you. I'll keep an eye out.
Dude you deserve more subs
Thank you
Your using the Carbine mosin. There are 4 different mosins in hll. The m1890(fact check) exclusive rifleman, the 91/30, the 91/44( the carbine, also please check if that's it's name, and mosin pu(scoped mosin). The 1890 and 91/30 have the same damage values as all other standard bolt actions, but their sights differ. The carbine has reduced range, only one shotting at limited ranges, but a faster rpm. The other two I mentioned don't have increased rpms compared to other bolt actions.
I will say that the flame thrower is super awesome in some niche scenarios such as clearing a building or bunkers. Although clearing bunkers can also be done with grenades.
7:52 the magazine catch on the mag also gives you a rough estimate on your ammo count/how much ammo you have left until you have to reload
The BAR is a browning. Browning automatic rifle.
Commander, there is a slight error in the Soviet rifles section titled "Mosin Nagant". In this footage, you are firing the M38 variant. This is the fast-bolting one. You however claim that they all bolt at this speed. The 91/38 and the 1891 do not bolt at this speed. For the DP-27, it is also worth noting that the hip fire animation on this MG is the fastest in the game allowing the weapon to be far easier to wield in CQC than other factions.due to there being no delay with the hip fire.
Great video, cheers!
Poor flamethrower, needs more love from the devs.. id recommend:
•5-10m increase range
•2-4 seconds of more fuel
•longer burn tine for fuel hitting ground
•remove brace mechanic for the weapon.
I think turning it into the rising storm flame thrower would be a good start
Nice list :) BREN actually suprised me how good it is. The rest all agreed
You're not considering the Bren for automatic rifleman. The bipod lets it take accurate 2 round bursts from insane ranges, 2 shot kill at like 300m.
i stopped watching at 1:50, M1 Carbine above MP40 and Thompson :D hahaha also die total Overwie at 11 Minutes is so random
You're not very bright.
Flamethrower was such a grind (for me, as I’m bad) to unlock, but then so bad 😢
It’s more bragging rights and a bit of trolling than anything else, although I have racked up 30 + kills and multiple Garry takedowns with it, it’s more for a bit of fun
Pretty much agree with the list but for me personally the mp40 is s tier. Im effective with it 150 to 200 meters, at that range i just aim at the enemies feet.
Flamethrower S tier because it makes you feel like the main character during a big push.
Some of the item placements on this list are criminal. Like the garand being higher than the gewehr and the grease gun being anywhere higher than f tier
Good Tier List! I would only switch the G43 and the M1 Garand. I prefer the sights, and it has more ammo, and no ping which shows the enemy that I‘m out of ammo
I don’t even enjoy playing the British but the rifle NO.4 and Bren are by far my favourites.
One last thing about the outro : "if i want to sit in a bush and harass advancing enemies, i want the shittiest, most humiliating weapon to do it with"
MG42 my beloved, it needs a tier above S
MP40 is my favorite weapon in this game.
Easy headshots, accurate, and most of my engagements are urbanized or close quarters.
I'm nearing 1000 hours on HLL, if I had to make a tier list, and put it in order, it would go like this:
S tier: Kar98k, M1 Garand, STG-44, SVT-40, Gewehr 43, Thompson SMG.
A tier: MP40, PPSH-41, Hand Grenades, Mosin Nagant M91/30, MG42.
B tier: FG42(unscoped), MG34, Lee Enfield No1 Mk3, Mosin Nagant m38, Kar98k (scoped).
C tier: FG42 (scoped), Lee Enfield No4 Mk1, BAR, M3 Grease gun, Sten.
D tier: Shotgun, M1 Carbine, Browning 1919, Bren, Lewis, Springfield 1903.
E tier: Molotov Cocktails, DP28, Mosin Nagant M91, flamethrower
F tier: Sidearms
You think the Kar98 is the best weapon? That’s an extreme outlier.
@@commandercrane1945 Pure bias on my end. Likely my most used weapon.
Mp40 is the best smg for me by a mile , very well balanced. 30 round magazine, quick reload, accurate out to medium range, Good site picture, controllable rate of fire that's not too slow but doesn't dump the mag.
Putting the trench in E is all I need to know about this list
I get the flamethrower is.mainly used for fun, but I always use it to push and destroy garrisons. Yes, it destroys garrisons just like a antitank and thats why Id put it E
It's actually the best weapon for hunting down garrisons in the backline, because you can destroy them instantly. The problem is getting there though.
For the most time in a HLL's match, we'll be suppressing the enemy or assisting other teammates instead of hunting enemies for a kill. But still a fun game.
Bro talks like a robot
Tbh the Bren Gun is better than you think it is, on account of being able to ADS while standing instead of being exclusive to being deployed. I'd give it a C tier because no other MG with a bipod can do that without being deployed first.
I've just been shot too many times because the magazine was blocking my vision. I'm sure it's alright at long distances and deployed on like el alamein.
so we’ve all hit the exact same shot with the sten gun i stg i hit that clip a week ago
This was a shocking list apart from the two S tiers
The M1911 is actually pretty usable, youd notice it mostly in sniper class
How to use your zoom in game is a program?
The DP-27 and Lewis gun both have 47 round drum magazines in the game. I don't know why you think the Lewis gun holds more? I like the FG-42 and I have heard some people call it the most versatile gun in HLL and I tend to agree with them. It has better sights for pulling off longer ranged shots than the STG-44 and it has a higher rate of fire than the STG, which comes in handy in close quarters sometimes. I also strangely find it easier to control the recoil on the FG-42 than the STG-44 when really laying into full auto fire but that might just might be a me thing. I just wish the FG-42 had a little more ammo to go with it.
Flamethrower can be great when attacking in offensive
Yeah… gotta love the Garand.
Biggest downside is it’s a heavy pig to carry, but not a big deal since the gaming mouse weighs the same for every firearm.
If you get good at hipfiring sniper riffles they are S class for sure.
2500 hours, does not know the lewis and dp 27 have the exact same mag size
Great content as always, appreciate you making these. Unrelated, but in one of your videos I noticed you rotating the angle of the precision strike, does that make any difference?
It determines the direction the plane or planes approach from. You sometimes need to do it to avoid a building.
I also try to gave it approach the back of the tank if using it on a tank, but I don’t think that matters.
@@commandercrane1945 thanks! I only paid attention to the projected damage area and haven't considered that it might hit a close building, that explains why I sometimes miss completely.
Flamethrower is situational like most gimmick weapons. It can be S tier on offensive defense.
the Mosin is so satisfying to use
NO WAY YOU PUT THE KAR98K INTO D TIER GOD DAM YOU MUST SUCK AT THE KAR98 TO PUT IT THERE if I made this I agree with basically all of it BUT I'd put the Kar98 in a bare minimum of an B tier but most likely an A tier
I have to say, holeheartedly disagree. The M1 Carbine e.g. is inferior to the Thompson and Mp40 in almost any regard imo. All three have poor muzzle velocity, damage output is roughly on par, versatility is muuch higher on the SMGs, one tapping is as easy with the Mp40 as the M1. The unscoped FG42 is easily better and more versatile the M1, as well as the choices for MG placement are weird.
I think a longer format would have helped you to make your placements more understandable
If you get a handful of HLL vets together to make a tier list, it would be all over the place.
I think the ones most people agree with are the top and bottom, everything in the middle is more of, opinions.
@@commandercrane1945 I think a lot the difference in opinions comes from how the guns interact with a persons skill set. If you tend to panic when an enemy randomly shows up at close range you'd likely be better off with an SMG than a semi auto.
@@durgun8247 When I first started playing the game, I preferred the SMGs because they are more generous if you miss.
You forgot the 50 cal on the allied halftrack
that transition at 2:56
I only have a thousand hours but in my opinion the mp40 is a or s tier that thing head shots at 250-300 meters for me regularly and is just so versatile. Like I said it can take people out long range or up close. Lay down suppressive fire or be selective and accurate. It’s one of the best in my opinion.
idk why but i love the grease gun. idc if its terrible, i love it
Flamethrower is S tier becuase of the screams
Rate of fire isn’t everything with MGs, sometimes I take the 34 over the 42 because it doesn’t attract as much attention.
Great idea for a tier list. Can you do another tier list for best loadouts per role? Thanks.
I was actually thinking about making a tier list for ranking every class.
I’ll think about that too.
@@commandercrane1945 thanks mate!! Keep up the good work🫡
You know the game is not realistic when Mosin has higher fire-rate than the SMLE.
You should do a vehicles list next?
Pretty much how I would rank them too. My personal preference would be the BAR getting demoted to C tier and promoting the Grease Gun/Thompson/MP40 to B tier.
Yeah, I can see that. It really just depends on one's playstyle.
@@commandercrane1945 my playstyle being I suck at recoil control and need that to hit anything.
Thanks for the good video!
Glad ya liked it
Based on your own preferences you can forgive some weapon stats so the list changes a lot. For me the MP40 is A tier since the sight is easy for me to use and keep shots on target thanks to the slower ROF. Greasegun is F tier because the sight is so poor i rarely land any shots.
I'd put the BAR at S tier for the same reason as the MP40 but with the benefit of 1 hit kills.
The M1919 is definitely A tier. It makes up for all the things the MG42 lacks (accuracy and controllability).
MG-34 slow rate of fire 😮
PS: Mosin Nagant fast rate of fire….Glad to see realism in this game.
Bren in E but the BAR is im A?!
You're crazy 🤣
I always fuck shit up with the Bren
MP40 in C tier, OK well you had good intentions lol
Shotgun is great. The range in which you can headshot is pretty good
The M1A1 Carbine in B tier is absolutely insane. It straight up sucks.
M1 Carbine over Mp40 ????
Probably unpopular BUT SVT40 and the .303 british are my favorites.
@@jamesbennett5189 I have some hit registration or perhaps problems with the sights for the SVT, but otherwise it is good.
Seems harder to get long range shots than the m1 garand or gewehr.
The Mark III with the double clip and those beautiful open iron sights is an A tier as far as bolt action goes. Best bolt action in the game for me perosnally.
And disagree with the FG42 sniper role not being good for close range. Thing can squad wipe at close range and is easily an S tier at medium to close rnage in the right hands.
Its interesting to see peoples differening opinions on the gun ranks though!
“The shotgun is is e tier because most engagements happen at long range”… but then puts sniper in b tier because it’s bad for close range ? Huh
MP40 is A tier for sure
M1 carbine is the absolute worst primary gun in the game, imo.
For those who put the Kar98 low on their lists, I have just one thing to say. Git gud. I get frequent 10+ kill streaks and have no problem getting 50+ kills in a game with it.
In the right hands the grease gun is a headshot magnet
Any gun is a headshot magnet in the right hands
The SMLE should have a higher rate of fire.
The mp40 has been nerfed.
Bring back realistic damage!
The bren gun is heaps better than the Lewis...but the dp27 should be able to aim down sight but with massive recoil
I disagree with plenty on this list, but not with the Nr. 1 gun, because the M1 Garand absolutely shreds.
When u gunna play w. @GoudaGamer ??
Nvr let this dude cook again 😬😂