I made Hill 400, Remagen, and St. Marie du Mont. Hell Let Loose's design was unique in that we did not care if the players hated a specific map too much. We pretty much knew exactly how a level would be received by the community before we released it. I'm sure each dev would have liked to change this or that to fix or improve the level and/or game, but there were many factors at play. Hell Let Loose and most games like it are not fun. They are designed to offer fun, not be fun. It is up to the players to create a fun experience given the hardships. And if you can't then don't play or scream your head off in rage. I like these games because it gives you the opportunity to make a difference to other players regardless of win/loss. You can make it fun for others even if your team is getting destroyed. You just have to adapt and learn ways to offer something up other than your gaming skills, perhaps your character, your jokes, and/or an objective that allows those around you to not focus on the bad.
I love every map my only real gripe with the game is on offensive where practically every first objective is a give to the attacking team. I always just start building up defense for the second obj because there's practically no point in trying to essentially capture the first obj despite being on defense oh well, skill issue I guess 😂
I personally love the game and Ramagen as a map tbh. While its not always exciting or super fun there are a lot of very fun and memorable moments from both losing and winning. The games realism and the stress i genuinely feel like i only have one life are a relatively unique experience in gaming and i really enjoy it. Edit: one thing I will say is that I wish there were maps in the pacific fighting against the Japanese. I think having both fronts of the war in the game would add even more variety and unique gameplay to the experience.
What I love about Hill 400 is that it is a rest from constant vehicle combat and instead focuses on infantry. The low visibility also helps with the "everybody is a +25 years experienced sniper" gameplay from other maps.
yep, you nailed it with conclusion by the end. Im the guy on the second group who prefers the immersion and atmosphere rather than perfectly balanced map. Thats why I love this game so much.
I agree. It’s gives it a no bullshit approach where you have to learn to cooperate with your team to overcome some of the inherent drawbacks either teams may have geographically speaking. Like you have to work together, that’s the whole point. If you dont, you lose. The game will not hold your hand.
i think the worst map is kursk. its bad cause there almost no cover and what little cover there is gets shell and bomb none stop, game play wise it glitches out all the time iv play matches were half the team quites cause they ether cant spawn cant switch classes and die to snipers arty or tanks the 2nd they do spawn. i know its a tank map for tank players to tank around in but if your not in a recon or armor squad its hard to do anything other then crawl everywere or die so soon as you spawn.
Call me crazy but I love PHL and Remagen, they do a great job of demonstrating how brutal the fighting in both world wars were. Hundreds of men lost to take a single objective was pretty standard, especially ones with high value like the bridge in Remagen.
I enjoy the fact that some of the maps are unbalanced, i often end up commanding, and those limitations enable me to think strategically & creatively, to try and swing that disadvantage. It feels realistic, because those original battles in the war, were not balanced either, but overcoming those imbalances, were what made our heroes heroic
I love remagen i think people just refuse to try and have fun. Personally i look at it like operation locker from bf4, nothing but chaos in a 1 lane meat grinder for 10 minutes is epic, i can understand how dying repeatedly sucks but that feeling when you finally flank the enemy team is unmatched. Then again I am new player so take my opinion with a grain of salt.
I like Remagen too. I don't even necessarily agree the Germans have the advantage. I've never had problems taking out tanks and AT on the mountain. You know where they're going to be. Start of the game, US side easily gets across the bridge first because of the roads.
I have 900 hours in the game. I like the varied and diverse gameplay that the good maps offer. Ramming my head at a bridge over and over again until command drops an airhead that has a 90% of going down before it gets a spawnwave off isn't fun.
I absolutely love purple hearts lane. When you get to know them there’s plenty cover and good flanking options - especially on war zone mode. And the nighttime version rocks! Hurtgen forrest is in my top three worst. Kharkov and Foy makes me snowblind, but are fun. My top three must be Saint Marie du mont, St Mere Eglise and purple hearts lane. I wish the two first would have nighttime versions
Those 'bad' maps are three of my favourites! All three reward sneaky gameplay, and the use of the game's amazing sound design to detect enemies. I'd rather play those than some of the maps with huge open sight lines.
I agree on the atmosphere. I personally hate Foy because I find it difficult to flank and boring, whereas I love the meat grinder of the bridge battle at Remagen. The feeling of relief and victory to finally push across that bridge must be what US troops actually felt.
All three of the worst maps here are great, but suffer from bad players. All three maps require flanking and strategic defence, but those players who want to run to the enemy strong point and shoot their way in will always suffer, and then blame the map. There are better maps, but there are no bad maps.... Just bad players...
For example, hill 400 is great, but half the team will always fight over the hill top, even if it's not the objective, leaving the north or south flanks entirely exposed. Then once you capture it and move on, the team still insists that "holding the hill top" is the most important thing. The map is beautiful though, especially on the western side. I like it, but just pray for a sensible team...
It translate well when most of us who knew what we were getting into,it exactly what we hoped for.For the hell of it.But even I skip bridge 80% of the time.Had amazing fights there
I used to hate certain maps that was until you learn how to play them and each one having a certain ‘points’ that you either defend or use for your advantage. I wish there was few more maps like Carentan tho, really like fighting in urbanised areas.
Good list mate. For me personally if the squads communicate it just doesnt matter how bad the map is. I would say i "hate" Stalingrad and Carentan the most just because i get really low fps on these 2 maps
Saint Marie du Impenetrable Hedgerow. I'm one of the very few that hates that map. I also love Remagen. You nailed it at the end, immersion is why I play HLL over others.
I like them all. All have certain choke points that can be so frustrating especially when nobody is communicating. A team that communicates is a team that gets over that damn bridge haha.
I have no favorites or disliked maps. I enjoy realistic shooters and on console I don’t get many if any that quite hit the mark like HLL does. I defiantly prefer certain maps to others,but hill 400 is possibly one of my favorites. The map was where my HLL run begun and where I first got my HLL PTSD
Personally I would love a Carentan similar map, which focus on complex urban street to street fighting. IMO Carentan is the only urban focus map now, compare to every map even to St.Mere Eglise and St.Marie Du-mont.
In war of rights for example most maps are sunny and nice but the owner or host of a server can change weather and time this would be great in hell let loose.
when i played foy a couple times last year, had the most absolute worst experience on both occasions. you are right, when the game is balanced the map is fun, but when you start losing, you lose so badly
Yeah my first Time running the MG42 on PHL I got nearly 60 in 10 min. Just found a bad enemy garrison got set up and let fly. 2 other MGs joined in as well...almost felt bad for them
I actually kind of like Hill 400, I remember playing armor on it a few times and while it was pretty bad with all the AT infantry, it was still really fun.
I swear if they just added boats like the ones we saw in BOB when they crossed that river to capture the Germans, Remagen would be so much better. Yes it would be difficult to cross but goddamn it gives some possibility of getting across without absolutely *forcing* the use of an airhead. Like it’s beyond ridiculous. It’s a total murder fest every single time.
I got foy the other day and there was an open recon squad (other guy wanted to use the sniperbut didnt know how it worked lol). It was the second time ive gotten to play recon as i play alone typically. Fog was turned up to 100 and visibility was literally 20 feet the entire map. Worst game ever
People hate on purple heart lane but the most fun experience you will ever have is rolling down the main road with a heavy obliterating anything in your path
Fighting for and holding the bridge in Purple HeartLane does suck. But when done "properly" and well coordinated, its like a old school boss fight lol. ❤️
How can you enjoy Foy but not like Hill 400? This is so amazingly backwards for me. Love hunting enemy through the woods, hate attacking over snowy open ground with anything but a well-communicating team.
Purple Heart lane is one of my favorite maps because no matter what side you can dominate you just have to position right I can understand how it’s annoying to play but it’s still very fun
favorite maps are the hill 400 map although i hate the bridge section, and the winter map i can’t remember their names, but it’s the map where the us fights the germans and it’s a lot of woods and open fields
Top three: Kharkov, Hürtgen Forest, Foy. I enjoy a good round on every map but the bottom three: Remagen, Smdm( I want to play a diffrent map for once😢), purple heart lane.
Ramagen is actually one if my favorite maps and is incredible. Sure theres a large advantage towards the defense although i can say the one time i was on defense we got demolished once they got passed the bridge and they capped the objective within 15 minutes so its not impossible. Its got great views and is just a beautiful map.
I really like PHL. But SLs HAVE TO flank and use the gullies to get around the enemy otherwise it will be a bloodbath. A long wide flank on this map can be great! I think the atmospherics are great too.
I fucking love hill 400, infantry combat really shines. On the other hand I really hate foy. not sure why. I think kursk is a lot more fun for a really wide open map.
Remagen is brilliant... WHEN YOUR NOT ON THE BRIDGE. If your commander is switched on and coordinates a good push or airhead, it gets real and tense, and the woodblock-to-woodblock fighting on the american side is really fun. Just my opinion
I personally like all the maps in hll , I just adjust to the situation’s. only problem is the bugs and certain places Mgs cannot be deployed that should make sense
what does it mean to say "It is a marmite map"? I know of marmite as the national spread of Down Under, but do not know if this is an effusive or a derogatory use.
Marmite is a British spread that people either love or hate. Vegimite is the Australian alternative and I prefer this spread. But the usage in the context of the video was basically either love or hate it
Care tan has terrible optimization on both console and PC. I have a computer I self built with some of the most cutting edge specs around and I still have issues with frame drop and packet loss on Carentan. Needs to be optimized if my opinion is gonna improve
I never understood the hate for Hill 400. It’s an incredible map with unique areas that requires a ton of clever infantry tactics to come out victorious. Sure the armor is nerfed but that just adds to the coordination required between squads. Likewise, I never understood the love for Foy (day specifically). It’s a fantastic atmospheric map but the lack of cover for infantry just kills the experience for 80% of the player base playing infantry every time. The winning team basically just comes down to who has a squad that lucks into an approach route that isn’t being watched by more experienced defenders who shut it down before they can destroy the cohesion of the capture circle.
Carentan is my absolute favorite map in the game. I love it. My personal take is I don’t think any of the maps are “bad.” Each map requires different tactics. Hell I’ll even go for a match on Remagen if the bridge is the mid point.
In no particular order. Overall, the top maps offer the best of both world providing a healthy balance of close quarters combat amidst the city and through rural areas. TOP HLL MAPS I WILL PLAY RELIGIOUSLY 1. SME 2. SMDM 3. Carentan 4. Stalingrad (has degraded over the last few updates, but if it was optimized....ooooh wheee!) 5. Foy 6. Omaha (especially inland fighting) 7. Utah (especially inland fighting) OKAY, BUT I COULD DO WITHOUT 1. Remagen (Playable once in a blue moon. It is a reskin of Hill 400 and Hurtgen, with added bridge asset. Prove me wrong) 2. Hurtgen (out of all the woodland maps, this one is an oldie but goldie) 3. PHL (used to be a favorite until they "improved" the rain for visibility because tears are more important than gameplay) JUST....NO 1. Kursk (Hey! I can see the enemy leaving the spawn because I've strapped the monitor to my face) 2. Kharkov (The best part of this map is St. Mary's and you seldom fight over that point) 3. Hill 400 (One more tree.....and I swear)
Even with a server browser you can only see the current map. Bf5 have a good system where you can see how fsr along the game is and what mPs are in rotation and in what order.
Remagen's biggest issue is that while the geography is accurate the kinds of true to life things that would make it bearable are not. Fighting on the American side you are forced to deal with German armor comfortably perched atop the hillside relentlessly firing down into your and your team. In authentic history the US had the Pershing Tank, M4A3 76, and total air superiority to literally level the playing field. In Remagen they've got no such strengths but are stuck on the low ground. Germany on the other hand was short of fuel, men, guns. Why not represent that fact in gameplay? Compared to changing an entire map (like with El Alemein), it would be less labor intensive to implement. Germany struggles to field its tanks, load its artillery, while America makes aggressive use strafing runs and airdrops. The Allies are fighting an uphill battle tactically, while the Germans have to fight an uphill battle logistically, just as it was in late WW2.
@@McBluffinGaming Thanks man, I just got off of a particularly awful round of Remagen when I wrote that. The map shouldn't be in any rotation. Guaranteed server killer.
Gotta disagree on Du Mont and Hill 400. The latter forces you to change your mindset (plus infantry can't cry about armor wrecking them). St. Marie du Mont on the other hand just feels off for me. Every section of hedges has a million camping spots, they are too wide to cross on foot and too small for tanks to be effective. It just is a constant medium range battle with flanking routes always being obnoxiously long.
Thanks for a constructive comment. I agree about hill 400, it's by no means my fav but it changes things up, the Downside is I rarely have a good squad with me, so even if my mindset is different it ain't gonna work. I reckon if it was in rotation more i would jump on way more. I kinda miss these maps. I'm I'd get fed up eventually but the constant generic rotation at the moment is getting stale
As someone who plays the game competitively, personally the best maps would be: 1) SMDM 2) SME 3) Utah, and the worst maps 1) Remagen 2) Kharkov 3) PHL
My top three: Foy, Kharkov, and Omaha Beach (as you can see I’m a sucker for winter maps). A lot of my best games have been on Foy both stat wise and just pure enjoyment. I always jump at the chance to play Foy. My last three: Hill 400, Sainte-Marie-Du Mont, Stalingrad. Let me explain. Hill 400 has always been aggravating. I don’t think I’ve played a single game on that map that I actually had an overall good time with. The tanking sucks, the infantry combat is always on a slope, and some of the points are the worst in the game (fuck Flak Pits btw). If you’re playing on Germany 9/10 the US will always beat you to the point because they don’t have to cross a river using a single windy road that goes up a slope. As for French countryside map #1 the only point I actually enjoy fighting in is Brecourt. French countryside map #1 also features one of the worst points in the game imo: the Sainte-Marie-Du-Mont. One of the worst points to fight over. Fuck that point, it’s like a worse Town Center. Finally, Stalingrad. What do you know, the worst battle of the war is one of the worst maps to slog through. Who coulda guessed? I actually don’t have a problem with this maps layout (although Train Carriage is a pretty shitty point), it’s really just the players. There’s something about Stalingrad that just makes everyone dumber for some reason. Idk why. Every time I play that map, especially as the Reds, everyone just collectively drops 20 points of IQ. That map is cursed I tell you. Tbh though I’d rather play on Hill 400 or Stalingrad again and again if it meant I didn’t have to play on French countryside maps 1, 2, and 3 repeatedly all the time (Sainte-Marie-Du Mont, Utah Beach, and Sainte-Mere-Eglise respectively). At the end of the day though any of these maps can be really good as long as both teams are really good. Same goes for any other map not mentioned. As another guy in the comments section said “There are no bad maps, only bad players.”
Definitely agree with the points here - the Normandy maps do tend to feel very very very similar to me, so any chance to play on something else is something I enjoy.
I made Hill 400, Remagen, and St. Marie du Mont. Hell Let Loose's design was unique in that we did not care if the players hated a specific map too much. We pretty much knew exactly how a level would be received by the community before we released it. I'm sure each dev would have liked to change this or that to fix or improve the level and/or game, but there were many factors at play. Hell Let Loose and most games like it are not fun. They are designed to offer fun, not be fun. It is up to the players to create a fun experience given the hardships. And if you can't then don't play or scream your head off in rage. I like these games because it gives you the opportunity to make a difference to other players regardless of win/loss. You can make it fun for others even if your team is getting destroyed. You just have to adapt and learn ways to offer something up other than your gaming skills, perhaps your character, your jokes, and/or an objective that allows those around you to not focus on the bad.
Perfectly said dude, thanks for leaving a comment and for your work on Hell Let Loose. 👍
The obstacle is the way. What's in the way, becomes the way. 👍
Its the journey that's fun, not the destination. So many modern shooter players only find fun in the victory, but Hell Let Loose is more than that.
I love every map my only real gripe with the game is on offensive where practically every first objective is a give to the attacking team. I always just start building up defense for the second obj because there's practically no point in trying to essentially capture the first obj despite being on defense oh well, skill issue I guess 😂
I personally love the game and Ramagen as a map tbh. While its not always exciting or super fun there are a lot of very fun and memorable moments from both losing and winning. The games realism and the stress i genuinely feel like i only have one life are a relatively unique experience in gaming and i really enjoy it.
Edit: one thing I will say is that I wish there were maps in the pacific fighting against the Japanese. I think having both fronts of the war in the game would add even more variety and unique gameplay to the experience.
My favorite map is the one where my entire squad is communicating. Best maps ever!
Sorry I don't think I've played that one.....
@@McBluffinGaming it's a rare map!🤣
Nail on head there 🙌 any map is good when you have a decent sqaud
Dude... I love that map too!
this is probably the most true thing i’ve ever heard
What I love about Hill 400 is that it is a rest from constant vehicle combat and instead focuses on infantry. The low visibility also helps with the "everybody is a +25 years experienced sniper" gameplay from other maps.
The "worst maps" are only the worst when you have a team that is full of those typical CoD & BF kiddos who are not willing to communicate.
I don't understand how anyone can play this game and not talk.
yep, you nailed it with conclusion by the end. Im the guy on the second group who prefers the immersion and atmosphere rather than perfectly balanced map.
Thats why I love this game so much.
I agree. It’s gives it a no bullshit approach where you have to learn to cooperate with your team to overcome some of the inherent drawbacks either teams may have geographically speaking. Like you have to work together, that’s the whole point. If you dont, you lose. The game will not hold your hand.
Thanks dude. I enjoy the game more when I focus on working with the team and getting sucked into the immersion of that. Great comment dude.
Yeah People lose sight of the core design behind the game.
i think the worst map is kursk. its bad cause there almost no cover and what little cover there is gets shell and bomb none stop, game play wise it glitches out all the time iv play matches were half the team quites cause they ether cant spawn cant switch classes and die to snipers arty or tanks the 2nd they do spawn. i know its a tank map for tank players to tank around in but if your not in a recon or armor squad its hard to do anything other then crawl everywere or die so soon as you spawn.
Love being a medic and pretending to be an ambulance and giving out meds on nhs
When you haven't played purple heart lane in 1 year they have a night map too
I don't believe you
@@McBluffinGaming it’s true
@@McBluffinGaming I want to believe it to I played on it and there is videos of in on UA-cam search hell let loose purple Heart Lane night
@@McBluffinGaming it’s a hell hole of a map at night but yes sadly it’s a reality. There’s a lot of night versions of maps. Which were not needed.
I haven’t played ramagen yet
The crescendo of “over there” in the distance growing ever louder until finally the massive horde of infantry comes charging up the hill 😂
Call me crazy but I love PHL and Remagen, they do a great job of demonstrating how brutal the fighting in both world wars were. Hundreds of men lost to take a single objective was pretty standard, especially ones with high value like the bridge in Remagen.
I agree.
Ok. You're crazy ;)
I enjoy the fact that some of the maps are unbalanced, i often end up commanding, and those limitations enable me to think strategically & creatively, to try and swing that disadvantage. It feels realistic, because those original battles in the war, were not balanced either, but overcoming those imbalances, were what made our heroes heroic
Kharkov is my fave map btw
I love remagen i think people just refuse to try and have fun. Personally i look at it like operation locker from bf4, nothing but chaos in a 1 lane meat grinder for 10 minutes is epic, i can understand how dying repeatedly sucks but that feeling when you finally flank the enemy team is unmatched. Then again I am new player so take my opinion with a grain of salt.
Haha omg yeah I love locker and metro for that exact reason. All opinions are welcome friend
I like Remagen too. I don't even necessarily agree the Germans have the advantage. I've never had problems taking out tanks and AT on the mountain. You know where they're going to be. Start of the game, US side easily gets across the bridge first because of the roads.
I have 900 hours in the game. I like the varied and diverse gameplay that the good maps offer. Ramming my head at a bridge over and over again until command drops an airhead that has a 90% of going down before it gets a spawnwave off isn't fun.
I absolutely love purple hearts lane. When you get to know them there’s plenty cover and good flanking options - especially on war zone mode.
And the nighttime version rocks!
Hurtgen forrest is in my top three worst.
Kharkov and Foy makes me snowblind, but are fun.
My top three must be Saint Marie du mont, St Mere Eglise and purple hearts lane.
I wish the two first would have nighttime versions
I agree - I think its hated on because a lot of people drown lol
Those 'bad' maps are three of my favourites! All three reward sneaky gameplay, and the use of the game's amazing sound design to detect enemies.
I'd rather play those than some of the maps with huge open sight lines.
There’s nothing sneaky about the knowledge that an airhead is going to be dropped as soon as it’s available like on remagen. Let’s face it.
I'll be honest I can see why people don't like em, but I miss them a bit and wish they turned up more.
I'd rather play these 3 than SME, SMDM, Utah, Omaha, or Carentan...
@@ChrisC7498_ Same, I have no interest in playing those anymore. I see them pop up and immediately leave server.
I agree on the atmosphere. I personally hate Foy because I find it difficult to flank and boring, whereas I love the meat grinder of the bridge battle at Remagen. The feeling of relief and victory to finally push across that bridge must be what US troops actually felt.
All three of the worst maps here are great, but suffer from bad players. All three maps require flanking and strategic defence, but those players who want to run to the enemy strong point and shoot their way in will always suffer, and then blame the map. There are better maps, but there are no bad maps.... Just bad players...
Interesting take. I like it
For example, hill 400 is great, but half the team will always fight over the hill top, even if it's not the objective, leaving the north or south flanks entirely exposed. Then once you capture it and move on, the team still insists that "holding the hill top" is the most important thing. The map is beautiful though, especially on the western side. I like it, but just pray for a sensible team...
That’s just… wrong
@@CptDawner no it’s not more competitively oriented teams or clans make easy work of these
If a map has to rely on an airhead for a push, Imo it’s bad
Hill 400 is actually hella good map if you good at spotting enemies you can get soo many kills easily
It translate well when most of us who knew what we were getting into,it exactly what we hoped for.For the hell of it.But even I skip bridge 80% of the time.Had amazing fights there
Consider the fact I get happy whenever I see Foy, Carentan, or Hürtgen, those are probably my favorite.
I used to hate certain maps that was until you learn how to play them and each one having a certain ‘points’ that you either defend or use for your advantage. I wish there was few more maps like Carentan tho, really like fighting in urbanised areas.
Agree. Yes I was hoping the Netherlands map was going to be Arnhem
“Is that shepards pie in my knickers?!”
I know a Simpsons reference when I see one! 7:38
No Kursk with fog? The authentic eastern front experience
Good list mate. For me personally if the squads communicate it just doesnt matter how bad the map is. I would say i "hate" Stalingrad and Carentan the most just because i get really low fps on these 2 maps
Cheers lad. I'd agree with that
Saint Marie du Impenetrable Hedgerow. I'm one of the very few that hates that map. I also love Remagen. You nailed it at the end, immersion is why I play HLL over others.
Thanks dude. Yeah it's part of the thrill of this game.
I only play for immersion.
6:24 you what m8? Im on xbox and swear the maps i get the most are remagen and driel its always a birdge map
Your commentary on the worst three maps is the best advertorial for Hell Let loose ^^
Thank you dude, 😊
I like them all. All have certain choke points that can be so frustrating especially when nobody is communicating. A team that communicates is a team that gets over that damn bridge haha.
Right! I've had a few hail Mary pushes where everyone was coordinating and it went very well.
I usually prefer the unbalanced maps because it feels better to do good when you start at a disadvantage. I like needing to think a bit about it.
I have no favorites or disliked maps. I enjoy realistic shooters and on console I don’t get many if any that quite hit the mark like HLL does. I defiantly prefer certain maps to others,but hill 400 is possibly one of my favorites. The map was where my HLL run begun and where I first got my HLL PTSD
Personally I would love a Carentan similar map, which focus on complex urban street to street fighting. IMO Carentan is the only urban focus map now, compare to every map even to St.Mere Eglise and St.Marie Du-mont.
I world love to see BERLIN map !
I just got into playing HLL on PS5, I swear Purple Heart Lane and Hill 400 are the only maps I’ve played so far😂😂🥲🥲
NGL Purple Heart lane was always one of my favorites, understand the hate but prefer the challenge of it plus as a spotter main makes my job easy
Driel & the horror that's the bridge over the river. There are nights I cannot sleep thinking of that nightmare place.
In war of rights for example most maps are sunny and nice but the owner or host of a server can change weather and time this would be great in hell let loose.
when i played foy a couple times last year, had the most absolute worst experience on both occasions. you are right, when the game is balanced the map is fun, but when you start losing, you lose so badly
8:16 God Tier Urban Armor Aesthetic
If your a MG42 gunner on Purple Heart lane you can have a feast. I dropped a 100+ kill game on that with just the mg42
Yeah my first Time running the MG42 on PHL I got nearly 60 in 10 min. Just found a bad enemy garrison got set up and let fly. 2 other MGs joined in as well...almost felt bad for them
My first game was on Carentan. What an intro. Big band of brothers vibes
Yeah it's such a good map for that. Just play it so often
Hill 400: the most underrated map in hell let loose. Change my mind
I actually love Purple Heart Lane. It gives off a darker and gritty vibe than all the other maps
This game has a rare feature that dying adds to the experience, only game i can name that does that as well is Mortal Kombat
I actually like all three of the “worst maps”
Hill 400 is one of my favorites
And Ramagen is my favorite
El alamein was pretty bad too but the dev team is releasing an update that ads way more buildings and cover
Remagen is my favourite! Absolute chaos, anti-tank guns firing from everywhere, and the under bridge siege of infantry.
I actually kind of like Hill 400, I remember playing armor on it a few times and while it was pretty bad with all the AT infantry, it was still really fun.
I swear if they just added boats like the ones we saw in BOB when they crossed that river to capture the Germans, Remagen would be so much better. Yes it would be difficult to cross but goddamn it gives some possibility of getting across without absolutely *forcing* the use of an airhead. Like it’s beyond ridiculous. It’s a total murder fest every single time.
I agree, just another way. Boats, boat bridge, arm bands to swim....something
I got foy the other day and there was an open recon squad (other guy wanted to use the sniperbut didnt know how it worked lol). It was the second time ive gotten to play recon as i play alone typically. Fog was turned up to 100 and visibility was literally 20 feet the entire map. Worst game ever
People hate on purple heart lane but the most fun experience you will ever have is rolling down the main road with a heavy obliterating anything in your path
Yeah it's chock full of atmosphere
Fighting for and holding the bridge in Purple HeartLane does suck. But when done "properly" and well coordinated, its like a old school boss fight lol. ❤️
How can you enjoy Foy but not like Hill 400? This is so amazingly backwards for me.
Love hunting enemy through the woods, hate attacking over snowy open ground with anything but a well-communicating team.
Purple Heart lane is one of my favorite maps because no matter what side you can dominate you just have to position right I can understand how it’s annoying to play but it’s still very fun
@swaggysupremez7760 I've had my best and worst games on that map and I think that's the point
Remagen wouldn’t even be that bad if placing the barb wire wasn’t so glitchy , it’s pretty fun to hold the bridge down and win
I wish there was map voting
Console?
@@McBluffinGaming There is map voting?
favorite maps are the hill 400 map although i hate the bridge section, and the winter map i can’t remember their names, but it’s the map where the us fights the germans and it’s a lot of woods and open fields
Hill 400 my favorite map and the hurtgen forest map idk why I like fighting in the forest so much
It's so atmospheric that's why. It's like when you play in the woods as a kid
I love the forest maps too lol idk why people hate them so much. I don't like el alamein at all I literally quit everytime I get that map
@@ohio72213 same I cannot stand that big ass open desert😂
@@ohio72213 same I cannot stand that big ass open desert😂
Driel at night is super fun the most beautiful and immersive experience i have ever had in HLL
Every D Day Map highlight the pain that hedgerow give
the only map i truly hate is Stalingrad i actually enjoy all of the maps you mentioned
Same
I never get stalingrad somehow I forgot it was even a map
Top three: Kharkov, Hürtgen Forest, Foy. I enjoy a good round on every map but the bottom three: Remagen, Smdm( I want to play a diffrent map for once😢), purple heart lane.
Yeah I enjoy smdm but it's getting old.
i quite like sainte mere eglise
and stmere du mont and carenten and stalingrad
I like em as well. It's just they get stale when they are the only maps in rotation.
I'm just here to make sure Remagen with the bridge and uncrossable river is mentioned
Ramagen in very immersive but I can't step one inch on that bridge without being:
A.) Cut down by an MG
B.) Sniped
C.) Blown to pieces
Ramagen is actually one if my favorite maps and is incredible. Sure theres a large advantage towards the defense although i can say the one time i was on defense we got demolished once they got passed the bridge and they capped the objective within 15 minutes so its not impossible. Its got great views and is just a beautiful map.
Hate: Hurtegen Forest, Hill 400, Purple Heart Lane
Like: Utah Beach, Sainte-Mère-du-Mont, Carentan
I really like PHL. But SLs HAVE TO flank and use the gullies to get around the enemy otherwise it will be a bloodbath. A long wide flank on this map can be great! I think the atmospherics are great too.
100% agree
Agree with you on two of three but I enjoy Hill 400. I probably would have exchanged it with Kursk.
Kursk is just straight pain.
It was a toss up in my head but at the time of writing the polls were in HIll 400 favour...its actualy changed since.
I fucking love hill 400, infantry combat really shines. On the other hand I really hate foy. not sure why. I think kursk is a lot more fun for a really wide open map.
Hill 400 is absolute trauma and I love it
Remagen is brilliant... WHEN YOUR NOT ON THE BRIDGE. If your commander is switched on and coordinates a good push or airhead, it gets real and tense, and the woodblock-to-woodblock fighting on the american side is really fun. Just my opinion
I do agree with you conclusion tho. The 3 “worst” or just disliked maps are true experiences. Are a grind and just hard to win the map.
Exactly! I see why they sre disliked but I'd still love to play them more often just to top up my ptsd you know.
Forgot some of these existed. Never see them
Right! Made me miss them. Imagine a server rota that wasn't SMD/SME/CAR/FOY repeat.
I personally like all the maps in hll , I just adjust to the situation’s. only problem is the bugs and certain places Mgs cannot be deployed that should make sense
what does it mean to say "It is a marmite map"? I know of marmite as the national spread of Down Under, but do not know if this is an effusive or a derogatory use.
Marmite is a British spread that people either love or hate. Vegimite is the Australian alternative and I prefer this spread. But the usage in the context of the video was basically either love or hate it
@@McBluffinGaming oops, soory about mixing up marmite and vegemite, but thanks for the explanation!
@@ProfBoggs mooo
Care tan has terrible optimization on both console and PC. I have a computer I self built with some of the most cutting edge specs around and I still have issues with frame drop and packet loss on Carentan. Needs to be optimized if my opinion is gonna improve
I used to get horrendous performance on Car but for me at the moment seems fine.
Perpeal heart lane wouldn't be so bad if it was a world war one game with the ability to dig a trench or some sandbags that every class can use
I never understood the hate for Hill 400. It’s an incredible map with unique areas that requires a ton of clever infantry tactics to come out victorious. Sure the armor is nerfed but that just adds to the coordination required between squads.
Likewise, I never understood the love for Foy (day specifically). It’s a fantastic atmospheric map but the lack of cover for infantry just kills the experience for 80% of the player base playing infantry every time. The winning team basically just comes down to who has a squad that lucks into an approach route that isn’t being watched by more experienced defenders who shut it down before they can destroy the cohesion of the capture circle.
Carentan is my absolute favorite map in the game. I love it.
My personal take is I don’t think any of the maps are “bad.” Each map requires different tactics. Hell I’ll even go for a match on Remagen if the bridge is the mid point.
I’d take hill 400 out of the bad list and throw in Driel or Alamein
Yeah might have to do an updated list
My worst map is Stalingrad. I absolutely hate Stalingrad. Its a defending riflemans paradise with no cover whatsoever.
Same
My least favorite map is definitely El Alamein
In no particular order. Overall, the top maps offer the best of both world providing a healthy balance of close quarters combat amidst the city and through rural areas.
TOP HLL MAPS I WILL PLAY RELIGIOUSLY
1. SME
2. SMDM
3. Carentan
4. Stalingrad (has degraded over the last few updates, but if it was optimized....ooooh wheee!)
5. Foy
6. Omaha (especially inland fighting)
7. Utah (especially inland fighting)
OKAY, BUT I COULD DO WITHOUT
1. Remagen (Playable once in a blue moon. It is a reskin of Hill 400 and Hurtgen, with added bridge asset. Prove me wrong)
2. Hurtgen (out of all the woodland maps, this one is an oldie but goldie)
3. PHL (used to be a favorite until they "improved" the rain for visibility because tears are more important than gameplay)
JUST....NO
1. Kursk (Hey! I can see the enemy leaving the spawn because I've strapped the monitor to my face)
2. Kharkov (The best part of this map is St. Mary's and you seldom fight over that point)
3. Hill 400 (One more tree.....and I swear)
Pahaha
This guy gets it. I Back out immediately when I get Kharkov since shit ass console doesnt have a server browser.
Is there a way to check map rotation on a server? I'm really getting tired of the same 4 maps
Dude that’s me I don’t get why I getting the same damn maps ! We need a server browser
Even with a server browser you can only see the current map. Bf5 have a good system where you can see how fsr along the game is and what mPs are in rotation and in what order.
@@McBluffinGaming bf5s browser is great! would be awesome for both console and pc let’s hope they add it in sometime !
Purple heart ia soo fun in a tank! Them satchels get rough though😂 el almien is one of my favs not mentioned
Worst three:
3. Omaha Beach
2. Purple Heart Lane
1. Remagen
Best three:
3. Kursk (Night)
2. Carentan
1. Kharkov
Nah you're on something if you're enjoying Kharkov in any way and if Kursk is top 3.
@@nathantorresstanevil6958 Then your opinion differs on mine, which doesn't mean i'm on something
@@jjjonathan8774 1500 hrs in game and I agree with your list 100%
@@shogaal14 Thanks man
Remagen's biggest issue is that while the geography is accurate the kinds of true to life things that would make it bearable are not. Fighting on the American side you are forced to deal with German armor comfortably perched atop the hillside relentlessly firing down into your and your team. In authentic history the US had the Pershing Tank, M4A3 76, and total air superiority to literally level the playing field. In Remagen they've got no such strengths but are stuck on the low ground. Germany on the other hand was short of fuel, men, guns. Why not represent that fact in gameplay? Compared to changing an entire map (like with El Alemein), it would be less labor intensive to implement. Germany struggles to field its tanks, load its artillery, while America makes aggressive use strafing runs and airdrops. The Allies are fighting an uphill battle tactically, while the Germans have to fight an uphill battle logistically, just as it was in late WW2.
I like this a lot
@@McBluffinGaming Thanks man, I just got off of a particularly awful round of Remagen when I wrote that. The map shouldn't be in any rotation. Guaranteed server killer.
Purple Heart Lane is a miserable experience.
That's the point though
I didn't see the friendly you bazookad.
Best 3: Remagen Day, Ste Mere Eglise, Kursk.
Worst 3: Remagen Night, PHL, Hill 400
Fair
Purple Heart Lane is my most hated map. It might be tolerable if you could swim. I hate that map so much.
Floaty duck Waringstown should replace the hammer
I despise the defensive mode on Foy with a passion. Warfare on foy is god damn perfect though
My top worst: CARENTAN, horrible for tanks, enemies pop everywhere. HATE IT; then Remagen, then Purple heart.
Favourites: FOY, St. Marie, Utah.
Why do you keep killing teammates?
Carentan is the don of all hell let loose maps, its epic fighting down the streets
I love Hill 400🌚.
I love D-Day, idk something about the Map is just cool
I’ve never had a good game on hill 400. Lord I hate that map
My worst is Driel it’s so tedious even when I’m winning I’m not having fun. Maybe rebalancing the British will help.
Gotta disagree on Du Mont and Hill 400. The latter forces you to change your mindset (plus infantry can't cry about armor wrecking them).
St. Marie du Mont on the other hand just feels off for me. Every section of hedges has a million camping spots, they are too wide to cross on foot and too small for tanks to be effective. It just is a constant medium range battle with flanking routes always being obnoxiously long.
Thanks for a constructive comment. I agree about hill 400, it's by no means my fav but it changes things up, the Downside is I rarely have a good squad with me, so even if my mindset is different it ain't gonna work. I reckon if it was in rotation more i would jump on way more. I kinda miss these maps. I'm I'd get fed up eventually but the constant generic rotation at the moment is getting stale
If you hate Remagen, you'd be happy to know that were getting a similar map in update 14! lol
Ha yeah however with multiple crossings of the river I'm less worried
As someone who plays the game competitively, personally the best maps would be:
1) SMDM
2) SME
3) Utah,
and the worst maps
1) Remagen
2) Kharkov
3) PHL
My top three: Foy, Kharkov, and Omaha Beach (as you can see I’m a sucker for winter maps). A lot of my best games have been on Foy both stat wise and just pure enjoyment. I always jump at the chance to play Foy.
My last three: Hill 400, Sainte-Marie-Du Mont, Stalingrad. Let me explain.
Hill 400 has always been aggravating. I don’t think I’ve played a single game on that map that I actually had an overall good time with. The tanking sucks, the infantry combat is always on a slope, and some of the points are the worst in the game (fuck Flak Pits btw). If you’re playing on Germany 9/10 the US will always beat you to the point because they don’t have to cross a river using a single windy road that goes up a slope.
As for French countryside map #1 the only point I actually enjoy fighting in is Brecourt. French countryside map #1 also features one of the worst points in the game imo: the Sainte-Marie-Du-Mont. One of the worst points to fight over. Fuck that point, it’s like a worse Town Center.
Finally, Stalingrad. What do you know, the worst battle of the war is one of the worst maps to slog through. Who coulda guessed? I actually don’t have a problem with this maps layout (although Train Carriage is a pretty shitty point), it’s really just the players. There’s something about Stalingrad that just makes everyone dumber for some reason. Idk why. Every time I play that map, especially as the Reds, everyone just collectively drops 20 points of IQ. That map is cursed I tell you.
Tbh though I’d rather play on Hill 400 or Stalingrad again and again if it meant I didn’t have to play on French countryside maps 1, 2, and 3 repeatedly all the time (Sainte-Marie-Du Mont, Utah Beach, and Sainte-Mere-Eglise respectively). At the end of the day though any of these maps can be really good as long as both teams are really good. Same goes for any other map not mentioned. As another guy in the comments section said “There are no bad maps, only bad players.”
Definitely agree with the points here - the Normandy maps do tend to feel very very very similar to me, so any chance to play on something else is something I enjoy.
favorite maps are hill 400, mortaine, and driel. least favorite are SMD, carantan, foy.