Judge Kills Two Prosecutors Who Pursued Him for Minor Offenses | Eric Williams Case Analysis

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  • @kimberlys8422
    @kimberlys8422 Рік тому +1205

    I'm flabbergasted that a man who was fired 8 months after joining the force was hired as a judge in the first place.

    • @EdDunkle
      @EdDunkle Рік тому +83

      @@erdelegy I'm not sure how that works. My Dad was a public defender, and he was offered to be a municipal judge if he could come up with a considerable amount of money. He couldn't, so he remained a public defender.

    • @paulx3827
      @paulx3827 Рік тому

      the judges in america have to be more psychopatic as the police

    • @Striker885
      @Striker885 Рік тому +55

      It's called a second chance. People like you are critical about others having that but I bet youd wish that yourself.

    • @DeclanOKaneMD
      @DeclanOKaneMD Рік тому +15

      He was an assistant

    • @rosecreeper4353
      @rosecreeper4353 Рік тому +16

      @@EdDunkle wow

  • @olasmith8132
    @olasmith8132 Рік тому +410

    "2 narcissists going against each other..", perfect explanation of this case.

    • @GoGreen1977
      @GoGreen1977 Рік тому +8

      And one who relied on a gun to solve his problems.

    • @bthomson
      @bthomson Рік тому +7

      Yes! Guns always up the ante!

    • @Bamawagoner
      @Bamawagoner Рік тому +17

      “2 lawyers going after each other…” would be sufficient

    • @Ebenezer456
      @Ebenezer456 Рік тому +3

      I think this is one of my favourite cases so far - just the sheer madness of it all!

    • @velvetbees
      @velvetbees 9 місяців тому +6

      The wife said they had a hit list with more people on it, and that killing the prosecutors made them feel happy. A Texas newspaper reported that ultimately, he threw his wife under the bus and said she pulled the trigger in all the killings.

  • @bob-nl4zf
    @bob-nl4zf Рік тому +687

    Just imagine how terrible those prosecutors must have been to the other people they prosecuted

    • @Throatzillaaa
      @Throatzillaaa Рік тому +18

      I thought they weren't normally overly hard on people they prosecuted, though? Like, wasn't it obvious that they had personal issues with Eric, based on how unwilling they were to treat him just like anyone else?

    • @thomandstacieverroad8417
      @thomandstacieverroad8417 Рік тому +40

      Sounds like a case of " good riddance to bad rubbish" to me

    • @TOMAS-lh4er
      @TOMAS-lh4er Рік тому +10

      Were the prosecutors related to "DA BINGER" ???

    • @Mike-01234
      @Mike-01234 Рік тому +31

      In the end Eric won the feud against the two. Shows you how DA's have way too much power yet they decide who goes to prison who doesn't.

    • @UncleKennysPlace
      @UncleKennysPlace Рік тому +12

      @@Mike-01234 They decide only who gets tried, and who doesn't.

  • @teddyjackson1902
    @teddyjackson1902 Рік тому +345

    You have no idea how many sociopaths/psychopaths matriculate into the justice system for a career. From judges, to attorneys and police they’re everywhere. From what I’ve gathered as a layperson, this bears out in studies and statistical analysis and carries inherent implications and dangers for society. Would love to see Dr. Grande address this phenomena and deeply analyze the nature of this issue. With Kohberger in the news the timing would be perfect.

    • @marciasloan534
      @marciasloan534 Рік тому +2

      I know of a predator wanting to be a judge.
      So far ? DEFEATED

    • @MsShandy111
      @MsShandy111 Рік тому

      I in 20 people are psychopathic. It follows that police men, judges and lawyers had a good chance of being psychopathic.

    • @karennash2085
      @karennash2085 Рік тому

      You are spot on. There are many toxic people on the bench and in other positions of power.

    • @teddyjackson1902
      @teddyjackson1902 Рік тому

      @@karennash2085 how they end up there is a simple and intuitive social mechanic we don’t talk about often enough and so I don’t think we guard against it like we should.
      A high functioning person with dark triad personality traits will seek a profession that allows them to indulge their impulses.
      It’s the same cause and effect relationship that drives an empathetic and caring individual to pursue a career in nursing, someone who has a fondness for children to go into childcare, or the kid who likes to dismantle gadgets to eventually become an engineer.
      A socially integrated psychopath or sociopath will often chart a socially acceptable path to satisfy their need for dominance and power play by gaining arbitrary authority through their profession. This is why we end up with more than a few bad cops imo. This is why you see police work and military service among the top desired professions of serial killers.
      In some instances they become politicians and CEOs because they lack inhibitions, will do whatever is necessary to obtain the status they desire, and have unbridled ambition.

    • @teddyjackson1902
      @teddyjackson1902 Рік тому +1

      @@marciasloan534 I had an uncle who was an attorney and judge in a small community south of Louisville, he’s been dead for maybe 15 years, but he was an absolute criminal who ran drugs and prostitution rings.

  • @stt5v2002
    @stt5v2002 Рік тому +493

    It can be pretty risky to relentlessly bully a man until he is desperate, furious, and hopeless. You might think he is weak or meek, but you don’t really know what a man is capable of when he thinks he doesn’t have any better options.

    • @rhondasisco-cleveland2665
      @rhondasisco-cleveland2665 Рік тому +61

      I think most narcissists don’t really think of their affect on others, period. This was a case of narcissists colliding.

    • @KARMABELLA24
      @KARMABELLA24 Рік тому +18

      Are you suggesting we have compassion for a monster?

    • @titerado
      @titerado Рік тому +51

      The problem here is there are 2 (maybe 3) monsters. I read the original post as making that clear. Just because someone died doesn't remove their monstrous behaviour and their corrupt behaviour, which ultimately played a part in their own demise

    • @icewallowkum1566
      @icewallowkum1566 Рік тому

      They got exactly what they had coming. They hid behind the legal system when natural justice would always result in this outcome.

    • @darrylschultz9395
      @darrylschultz9395 Рік тому +43

      @@KARMABELLA24 Don't be so sure that if extremely provoked, you'd have what it takes to maintain equanimity and calmly suck it up. Each of us would have a level of provocation that if exceeded, would drive us to behaviour generally regarded as monstrous.

  • @Themac5050
    @Themac5050 Рік тому +542

    That's what you get when you try to take everything from someone and they have nothing more to lose.

    • @drdr76
      @drdr76 Рік тому +63

      Exactly. Our politicians are currently hard at work trying to take everything away from regular working people. When you take away a man's hope, he has nothing to lose. Those in power should heed this.

    • @shawnadeyo
      @shawnadeyo Рік тому +26

      Right? They obviously had a death wish.

    • @dianelipartito6654
      @dianelipartito6654 Рік тому +18

      The loss of status can be a huge motivator to lash out and in some cases, kill.. Something so called leaders in our society have not figured out yet (or maybe they just don't care) as they allow or force more and more people down the success ladder,

    • @parkercushingable
      @parkercushingable Рік тому

      @@dianelipartito6654 when the revolution comes its gonna be a bloodbath.

    • @sonic-bb
      @sonic-bb Рік тому +12

      Tbf tho, the dude did deserve to lose everything

  • @puddingtame3483
    @puddingtame3483 Рік тому +183

    8:25 "His career in criminal justice was permanently over,.. at least on the side where he would be getting paid for his services." 😂
    Classic Dr. Grande dry humour!
    I love it!

    • @HoneyHoneyBaby
      @HoneyHoneyBaby Рік тому +6

      Hahaha 🤭

    • @CharlesHess
      @CharlesHess Рік тому +8

      Hence the cactus decor.

    • @michaeladair6557
      @michaeladair6557 11 місяців тому +3

      @@CharlesHess OH... Is THAT why I see the cactus motif everywhere. I just thought he really liked cactus's. But now that you mention it, cactus's reflecting his dry humor makes perfect sense..

    • @TheropodHunter
      @TheropodHunter 9 місяців тому +1

      ​@@michaeladair6557 Cacti*

    • @indoor_gangster
      @indoor_gangster 7 місяців тому

      ​@@TheropodHunter😁

  • @nadermazari3334
    @nadermazari3334 Рік тому +302

    The discretion that the government has in going after someone is mind-boggling.

    • @marisamartin3664
      @marisamartin3664 Рік тому +1

      We are experiencing it right now- more than 1000 conservative political prisoners of Leftist Feds who are just as vindictive, malicious, and petty. I wish every one of them a truly just Judgement Day.

    • @traybern
      @traybern Рік тому

      So STAY LEGAL, DUMBBELL!!

    • @v1das007
      @v1das007 Рік тому +33

      I don't understand why he was prosecuted by his own colleagues. His case should have been given to an impartial judge and all this story would not have happened.

    • @mj4193
      @mj4193 Рік тому

      Government officials love the power and just want to share that power with their friends. Democracy is dead

    • @joshcantrell8397
      @joshcantrell8397 11 місяців тому +5

      Yep. All police have the discretion to further their stop with you.

  • @laynecurry7960
    @laynecurry7960 Рік тому +481

    My dad always said, "When you live by the sword, you die by the sword." In this case, vengeance and arrogance destroyed multiple lives. These men couldn't see two inches in front of their own faces, so to speak.
    Thanks Dr, G. I think you must be a night owl like me. Your work is appreciated!

    • @LaniLanilei
      @LaniLanilei Рік тому +18

      Jesus said those words, "Live by the sword die by the sword". Poetic justice.
      Sword: weapon of war, conflict, violence.

    • @alisiabakerjb
      @alisiabakerjb Рік тому +7

      Your words sound like something Dr. Grande would say. Well done!

    • @hollyrorienetwork
      @hollyrorienetwork Рік тому +10

      No shame in being a night owl. It's most peaceful and quiet to me, but don't forget to enjoy the feeling of the warmth of the sun on you now and then too.

    • @simonabbott725
      @simonabbott725 Рік тому +5

      Yep! just as it's no coincidence that words and sword carry the same letters just as week sounds like weak and weekend sounds like weakened 😉

    • @JulieDodgshon
      @JulieDodgshon Рік тому +2

      I Should do what I always do and cut and paste and put this in my notes because it’s so hard to edit it because I can’t use my right hand to type anymore and this Apple dictation is pretty sketchy but I think I’m just gonna leave this because there’s so much good valid comments that I need to share and I have been alone so long now! Thank you for your fabulous analysis and oh my gosh did It push every button that I have because what you said about the halo effect is so true and I think my Brother would be surprised to,learn that he is actually a very narcissistic egomaniacal Former D and D playing know it all tattle tailing narc-ee jerk! And I being the designated hitter in my family every time my brother told on me I would get hit and I’m talking my dad still thinks he can punch me and he’s in his 80s and I’m in my 50s so whatever! I’ve done everything in my family to help my parents and to help my Brother and to be a super kind Aunt to my Nieces but now that my Mom is dead and I alone showed up for her and they feel guilty so they are super mean to me and Being a person with mental illness in America is a nightmare! And What they don’t tell you is when you recover from being in a dysfunctional family and you work on your codependency and all that you end up alone not only in your dysfunctional family but the whole world is dysfunctional you know especially in the US where often you do Not have access to a mental illness treatment let alone medication which happens a lot in America sadly. You are a great Doctor and I subscribed I will recommend your video! Thank you❤

  • @Kat-tr2ig
    @Kat-tr2ig Рік тому +251

    So basically a pissing contest between two narcissists resulted in the death of three individuals and the incarcelation of two, and the suffering of all of their family and friends.

    • @LClarke
      @LClarke Рік тому +6

      Excellent summation! lol...

    • @Rondoggy67
      @Rondoggy67 Рік тому +4

      Spot on

    • @hellonomasonto
      @hellonomasonto Рік тому

      Yeah. I don't get it at all.

    • @sharonmontano4924
      @sharonmontano4924 11 місяців тому +2

      Also some were incarcerated

    • @shitmandood
      @shitmandood 11 місяців тому

      Well…not all narcissists are murderers. Otherwise we wouldn’t have a civilization to speak of, it’d be back to the Stone Age.

  • @cal-native
    @cal-native Рік тому +33

    A group of narcissists in the same Texas town must be like Murder Hornets in a jar😉

  • @barcibus
    @barcibus Рік тому +26

    "Almost like he wanted to be caught."

    • @cbesthelper404
      @cbesthelper404 Рік тому +2

      Yes, it was arrogance. I think he wanted to send a message that he could do whatever he wanted. He took pleasure in strutting due to his oversized ego.

  • @emmonsterd
    @emmonsterd Рік тому +69

    Lawyers are narcissists? **GASP**

    • @Canadiancromagnon
      @Canadiancromagnon Рік тому +1

      Lol

    • @thepamela050
      @thepamela050 2 місяці тому

      and more than capable for ruining someone's life..

    • @Manticorn
      @Manticorn 2 місяці тому

      Prosecutors are, anyway. It's a job that's nothing but finding fault in others, and plenty of people with naïve ideas about crime and punishment see them as "the good guys" in the court room there to throw the book at "the bad guys" and lock them up.

  • @protectyourself33
    @protectyourself33 Рік тому +123

    Those two men who maliciously prosecuted him for political reasons, kinda did this to themselves. They are no better than Eric in that they grossly abused their power. Except with them their was an actual victim. Not two or three missing computer monitors.
    They all sucked and non should've been in positions of any authority. Looks like the trash took itself out.
    The poor wife is the only true victim.

    • @traybern
      @traybern Рік тому

      He STOLE the equipment, DUMBA$$!!!

    • @GAshoneybear
      @GAshoneybear 7 місяців тому +14

      The fact that the police didn't take Michael's concerns seriously--when police officers usually are known for looking out for DAs--was extremely telling. And while Eric certainly was wrong and should be in prison for how he handled the situation, documentaries painting Michael to be some innocent victim like Cynthia is misleading.

    • @sdgc8667
      @sdgc8667 5 місяців тому

      ​@@GAshoneybear They don't look out for DA's they look out for DA's who they gossip with or share political views with or are friendly with or ones who they don't know are obsessive vindictive people who do things for petty reasons. It's very strange to hear from people who are presumably American who think there is some kind of mystical force binding police officers and members of the justice system to some kind of code that can't be dismissed on a personal whim. Everything they do is selective

    • @prasannarajendran9315
      @prasannarajendran9315 2 місяці тому +1

      Well Said

    • @jmorel42
      @jmorel42 Місяць тому

      @@GAshoneybearYeah sounds like the local cops hated him too

  • @Skandalos
    @Skandalos Рік тому +85

    A harmless appearance of a person can provoke certain people into terrorizing this person. I guess it's a kind of power trip that can become extremely addictive. It's why there are bullys in school. A harmless look can deceive though. This prosecutor learned it too late.

    • @user-zp7jp1vk2i
      @user-zp7jp1vk2i 8 місяців тому +5

      and projecting your blame or anger AT an obvious nut job is a really bad idea, especially when they know where you live.

  • @letsgobrandon6281
    @letsgobrandon6281 Рік тому +318

    Absolutely can see how this happened. The only one I felt sorry for was the wife.

  • @ovidiustoica5055
    @ovidiustoica5055 Рік тому +71

    Mike McClelland was a clinical psychologist for many years before pursuing a legal carer (according to his obituary). Apparently he did not get much self insight out of it .

    • @cbizzle4299
      @cbizzle4299 6 місяців тому +7

      Certified to drive you clinically insane

    • @infinitejest441
      @infinitejest441 3 місяці тому +8

      Ted Bundy had a psychology degree.

    • @guydreamr
      @guydreamr 2 місяці тому +3

      "Physician heal thyself."

    • @CarolEdmonds-pk7hr
      @CarolEdmonds-pk7hr 19 днів тому

      Bryan Kohberger was a PhD candidate.

  • @tommylarson7219
    @tommylarson7219 Рік тому +50

    The fact he was fired from two separate police departments at the beginning of his career is very telling….. These guys who can not follow instructions, often feel they are above the law and many are narcissists. I find it very interesting that his wife helped him with these murders as she too felt these guys were picking on her husband and felt she too was above the law…. Neither thought they would get caught, even though it was murder, so it also shows both also were mentally ill.

    • @cbesthelper404
      @cbesthelper404 Рік тому +5

      Agree. Eric had huge issues despite how he was treated.

  • @imhere653
    @imhere653 Рік тому +94

    This segment was very informative. I live in Dallas and when this series of events was taking place, none of the background about the vindictive motives of McClellan was ever mentioned in any local news story. It was always posed as Eric Williams being a nutcase out of nowhere.

    • @jennypham3998
      @jennypham3998 Рік тому +3

      How did Dr. G found out about that when they wanted to hide it

    • @imhere653
      @imhere653 Рік тому +9

      @@jennypham3998
      I think it wasn't all that hard to find, it was just a matter of Dr. Grande having no interest in not telling the whole story.

    • @thorinpalladino2826
      @thorinpalladino2826 Рік тому

      The media siding with the establishment? That could not be.

    • @largelester
      @largelester Рік тому

      Bet there are a lot of gun-toting nutcases in small towns in the middle of nowhere .

    • @imhere653
      @imhere653 Рік тому +4

      @@largelester
      There are gun toters everywhere and nut cases everywhere. In the middle of somewhere and in the middle of nowhere.

  • @wovfm
    @wovfm Рік тому +38

    Wonderful sum up. "The police were now confident," is not supposed to be funny but your Bob Newhart delivery has me stifling laughter at 4 AM.

  • @lionessatthegate
    @lionessatthegate Рік тому +191

    As always, thank you for an alternative perspective to a case I have followed for years. None of the true crime shows allowed that perhaps Mr. McClelland was somewhat responsible for this tragedy. Good analysis!

    • @skreemqueen7520
      @skreemqueen7520 Рік тому +8

      Exactly what I just commented.

    • @ovidiustoica5055
      @ovidiustoica5055 Рік тому +16

      Mike McClelland was a clinical psychologist for many years before pursuing a legal carer (as stated in his obituary which can be found online). Apparently he did not get much self insight out of it .

    • @carsonsmith8607
      @carsonsmith8607 Рік тому

      @@ovidiustoica5055 Honestly that's not surprising. Many mentally ill people want to become phycologist themselves because they think that that's going to solve their problems, or some have even worse motives, like wanting to study that field to manipulate others so yeah, I bet he was no different than that.

    • @ovidiustoica5055
      @ovidiustoica5055 Рік тому

      @@Walczyk Yes, ...but he also killed Mike's wife, an innocent woman...Otherwise yes, the two lawyers got what they deserved.

    • @heisensaul5538
      @heisensaul5538 Рік тому +10

      These two guys Mike and Mark were stupid for more or less egging this guy on and underestimating what he was capable of. However Mike's wife did not deserve to die in this. Eric killed her and Mike put her in danger.

  • @great8413
    @great8413 Рік тому +352

    I didn't know the backstory of this case but I remember when this happened. Now that I know the story I find it hard to feel sympathy for the victims, especially now that I'm older and have seen our tiered justice system in play and have seen how egregious or the same crimes are ignored whilst people who have committed lesser crimes are destroyed all based on political affiliation or the whims of prosecutors.

    • @marygoff3332
      @marygoff3332 Рік тому +17

      Yes indeed

    • @binkao2938
      @binkao2938 Рік тому +12

      The wife was one of the victims too though

    • @Heywood.Jablome
      @Heywood.Jablome Рік тому +11

      Prosecutors are E V I L 💀

    • @myusernamerocks3
      @myusernamerocks3 Рік тому

      Democrat prosecutors always prosecute conservatives for minor offenses, but they drop charges for black Democrat murderers.

    • @raymondvunk7123
      @raymondvunk7123 Рік тому +14

      The wife was certainly an innocent victim and did not deserve retribution.

  • @grindingdeviance1864
    @grindingdeviance1864 Рік тому +31

    I remember talking to a friend about this case after the second murder was announced. I was commenting to my friend that Michael was shown in an earlier clip saying, "I'm a soldier" (as though that made him impervious to attack). My friend replied, "Soldiers die too!" It seems like that was a perfect case of over confidence in one's abilities.

    • @jennypham3998
      @jennypham3998 Рік тому +1

      What Mike meant is he s ready to fight and die anytime when he need to. Of course everyone know soldier die too. Actually they are the one who die easier, sooner, uglier than anyone else.

  • @bethyann562
    @bethyann562 Рік тому +57

    I heard about this from a prime time show years ago. They completely left out the harassment from the DA's office. Still not a justification for homicide, but l thought there might be more to this story. Thanks for sharing the information.

    • @Michaeljack81sk
      @Michaeljack81sk Рік тому +8

      I've seen the same on a lot of "True Crime" shows, often to the point it's obvious they are leaving out a whole lot

    • @leadleywilliam5748
      @leadleywilliam5748 Рік тому +4

      I think there is more to the story too. There must be a reason why the DA was upset that Eric supported his opponent in the election. He certainly could not expect everyone to support him so why was he particularly upset that Eric supported his opponent.? I certainly do not think that eliminating someone who is trying to destroy your life because you supported his opponent in an election is a narcissistic reaction. I think it's normal acceptable reaction. It would be cowardice to do otherwise.

  • @skreemqueen7520
    @skreemqueen7520 Рік тому +57

    I’ve heard this case MANY times but have never heard some of the facts Dr Grande presented. It made a lot more sense now. It’s a very sad and scary case but at least I understand better what was going on. Excellent work, Dr Grande.

    • @DottieMinerva
      @DottieMinerva Рік тому +5

      Dr. Grande is the only UA-camr whose videos I watch even if I’ve heard the case a million times. I like his perspective.

    • @jennypham3998
      @jennypham3998 Рік тому +1

      @@DottieMinerva he so smart

  • @joshuapatrick682
    @joshuapatrick682 11 місяців тому +9

    these are local officials...now imagine the hubris of those that work their way up the ladder to state and federal levels of authority? it truly is a nightmare for anyone without the wealth to fight back.

  • @creolelady182
    @creolelady182 Рік тому +52

    Eric had Narcissistic and sociopathic tendencies. The fact he would risk these low level thefts up against his career is beyond me

    • @cbesthelper404
      @cbesthelper404 Рік тому +6

      He was driven by his ego.

    • @spinetingler-op6st
      @spinetingler-op6st 11 місяців тому +12

      @@cbesthelper404 Apparently he learned nothing from being fired twice.

    • @gli5580
      @gli5580 11 місяців тому +5

      A lot of crazy murderers I see on Dateline and other true crime shows are narcissist/ and or sociopaths.

    • @DC-bp8sx
      @DC-bp8sx 9 місяців тому +5

      Winona Ryder comes to mind, she used to shoplift things worth under $20 just for kicks.

    • @drats1279
      @drats1279 9 місяців тому +4

      Easy to understand if you listen to the analysis and understand narcissistic people.

  • @vladimirputindreadlockrast812
    @vladimirputindreadlockrast812 Рік тому +31

    I don't condone what Eric did, but I understand, and even sympathize.

  • @dianasims8519
    @dianasims8519 Рік тому +140

    I'm glad you analyzed this case. I had watched it on one of the true crime channels. They said alot of negative things about Eric Williams, but made the DA out to be just an innocent man doing his job. IMO, the assistance DA was between a rock and a hard place and the only one who was innocent in this.

    • @troy3456789
      @troy3456789 Рік тому +11

      In this video, we hear perfect, exhaustive motivation for the murder; like people came out of the woodwork to say how much the DA hated Eric.

    • @meredithisme3752
      @meredithisme3752 Рік тому +16

      I agree the victims didn't get my sympathy

    • @GoGreen1977
      @GoGreen1977 Рік тому +11

      @@meredithisme3752 I don't think they deserved to be murdered, especially the wife.

    • @elmtree33
      @elmtree33 Рік тому +18

      My guess is that all three were narcissists: the DA, Asst. DA, and Eric. My beliefs follow. The DA had a vendetta against Eric and the Asst. DA knew it and was happy to go after Eric as hard as the DA wished (like a pitbull going after someone on behalf of its master). The Asst. DA is no angel. They both pursued Eric, going after his livelihood, reputation, and everything else that gave Eric any sense of worth to the public...essentially maliciously destroying his persona. Eric snapped at feeling targeted and exacted his murderous revenge.

    • @melistasy
      @melistasy Рік тому +4

      @@elmtree33 I agree

  • @thomandstacieverroad8417
    @thomandstacieverroad8417 Рік тому +302

    I've got mixed emotions about this killing. When someone has the power to wreck your life they also have the responsibility to be fair and not carry out a personal vendetta. Otherwise you get what you get.

    • @Aaron-kj8dv
      @Aaron-kj8dv Рік тому +43

      He even dared the guy to come over and kill him. Boy I bet he was embarrassed when he took him up on his offer.

    • @bthomson
      @bthomson Рік тому +10

      He didn't live long enough for that!

    • @jennypham3998
      @jennypham3998 Рік тому +20

      @@Aaron-kj8dv He had police guarded his house and patrol neighborhood24/7 after Mark got killed. It was Easter Sunday. For some reason they didn't have police patrol his house that day. Eric showed up wearing police clothes, he bought a lookalike police car. Mike 's wife looked and thought it was the police because the police came to their house all time. Eric shot her. Mike ran to reach his gun but no time.

    • @davidhoward4715
      @davidhoward4715 Рік тому

      So you people support murderers and oppose law and order. You're obviously Republicans.

    • @thomandstacieverroad8417
      @thomandstacieverroad8417 Рік тому

      @@davidhoward4715 I'm about as liberal as it gets however I have experienced something like this with people in powerful positions and after having exhausted every possible remedy without true legal relief you can bet your ass I began to plot to seek my own justice as the courts would not. This breach of the public trust by the people who swore to uphold the law is unbelievably common in small towns across America.
      Fortunately the individual who had initially used his position to, (let's just be honest) torture me died of a heart attack and the other party who was a judge got caught interfering in a custody battle and was removed from the bench and skipped town to avoid the shame and I couldn't find him. But believe me I so raw about it I really didn't care if I got caught or not. I actually had convinced myself that I would be saving others from a similar disparity and whatever the punishment it would be justified.
      When you feel powerless and have suffered great injury even the most liberal of people can convince themselves to do unto others as they have done to you . If you've never felt that need for extra legal revenge then you probably have never been hurt by people of power and should count yourself very lucky indeed.

  • @pfschuyler
    @pfschuyler Рік тому +18

    This paints such a colorful view of the Judicial System.

  • @Taluta394
    @Taluta394 Рік тому +37

    Excellent-, Dr Grange you always see inside the case. The part about the narcissist not caring who else they destroy was so true. The wives were drawn inside this and one killed and one in prison with a horrible disease. 🤦🏼‍♀️ crazy people

  • @davidsprivate5609
    @davidsprivate5609 Рік тому +30

    As an ex-member of mensa, I can reassure you that, although there are undoubtedly narcissistic members, most of the members I met were more interested in board games, discussion, and dating possibilities than grandiose bragging, or dreams of wreaking vengeance upon those who did not recognise them. There is also another question that arises-what is the collective name for a group of narcissists? - a bunch? It doesn't sound like it would exist for long.

    • @julietrudgill9887
      @julietrudgill9887 Рік тому +10

      The collective name for narcissists could be 'a vanity of narcissists'. My favourite is 'a murder of crows'. Best wishes from the UK.

    • @MoniMoniDeMonika
      @MoniMoniDeMonika Рік тому +7

      I met my prom date at a Mensa board game weekend so you are spot on. I think we were both nerds who had little chance of a normal date from our own schools, so you are spot on. :)

    • @MusicGamesEverything
      @MusicGamesEverything Рік тому +16

      Isn't a group of narcissists called a Home Owner's Association

    • @sharonmontano4924
      @sharonmontano4924 11 місяців тому +4

      Why does anyone join Mensa? It screams “I’m a narcissist! Look at me! I’m important 😂”

    • @delilah9334
      @delilah9334 9 місяців тому +7

      ​@sharonmontano4924 spoken like someone who hasn't a remote chance of ever being able to join Mensa

  • @ASlightlyTwistedFemale
    @ASlightlyTwistedFemale 4 місяці тому +4

    I know first hand how vicious these criminal Justice employees of the county can be, and how much they can latch on and get a vendetta. I have minimal sympathy for the two deceased.

  • @adambaum9732
    @adambaum9732 8 місяців тому +4

    'This guy Eric had a lot of determination and follow through, and in the end, he was wildly successful.

  • @ronque23
    @ronque23 Рік тому +8

    When I first heard about this story, the media completely ignored the campaign these two prosectors waged against this man. They pained Eric as an entitled pos and the prosecutors as innocent do-gooders. I was bamboozled I’m afraid. Amazing how the real story comes out when you get to the bottom of things.

    • @davidsenra2495
      @davidsenra2495 7 місяців тому

      Eric was a POS tho.
      I have no sympathy for anyone in this.

  • @loiskondo8349
    @loiskondo8349 Рік тому +41

    Forgiveness is usually better, you can move on without looking over your shoulder.

    • @nhmooytis7058
      @nhmooytis7058 Рік тому +5

      Revenge is best of all.

    • @Thomas-yw9eo
      @Thomas-yw9eo Рік тому +5

      When I tried to forgive, there was always a feeling of emptiness and unfulfillment. But revenge is always gratifying and stress relieving.

    • @williammcarthur1966
      @williammcarthur1966 Рік тому

      @@Thomas-yw9eo while i praise you for your honesty i do not praise you for the egotistical conclusion you've arrived at. don't feed your reptilian brain, transcend your primal instincts big dog, it's a much better way to be

    • @googleslocik
      @googleslocik Рік тому +5

      Forgiveness is weakness and only for the poor and powerless.
      You think the state will ever forgive you for any breaking of law?
      You should never forgive public officials even the smallest of slights, as the same people would put you in jail for life the moment the law allows it.

    • @nhmooytis7058
      @nhmooytis7058 Рік тому

      @Pat Luxor I didn’t harm anyone the Covidiot criminals KILLED people. If you want to forgive them do it but don’t tell other people they should. Typical authoritian no wonder you defend them.

  • @zenawarrior7442
    @zenawarrior7442 Рік тому +87

    Forgot there was a communal narcissist also. Another story of vindictiveness & ego leading to murder. Great points esp about people's views on narcissism. Thanks Dr G😊💌💌

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      @cottontails9003 Рік тому +2

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      @zenawarrior7442 Рік тому +2

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    • @bthomson
      @bthomson Рік тому +3

      Another year of Dr. Grande fans being so nice! Love it!

    • @zenawarrior7442
      @zenawarrior7442 Рік тому +1

      @@bthomson 😊

  • @kevwhit7058
    @kevwhit7058 Рік тому +17

    Honestly, they mistreated that man until he snapped. They took everything from him so he decided to do the same to his aggressors. This was sad all the way around. This shows how dangerous the human mind can be!

  • @williamrichardsonjr9731
    @williamrichardsonjr9731 Рік тому +36

    Outsanding case analysis. Absolutely appreciate how you dissect the personality nuances that informs the behaviors of those involved. If you ever consider teaching a course, I would sign up.

    • @williamrichardsonjr9731
      @williamrichardsonjr9731 Рік тому

      Do you answer questions on your Patreon?

    • @cbesthelper404
      @cbesthelper404 Рік тому +1

      I like hearing Dr. Grande's analyses. You might also enjoy the True Crime Rocket Science channel. Some good analyses there as well.

    • @williamrichardsonjr9731
      @williamrichardsonjr9731 Рік тому

      @@cbesthelper404 Peace to you. Thanks, I'll check it out.

  • @rullmourn1142
    @rullmourn1142 Рік тому +35

    I've known of this case for a few years, thanks for giving more to the backstory, Dr Grande.

  • @majortom8990
    @majortom8990 Рік тому +48

    Great analysis. I enjoyed how you related the facts of the case into a compelling narrative. Good work, Dr Grande. ✌️❤️🌵

  • @sophiamac9100
    @sophiamac9100 Рік тому +26

    An impeccable and impartial analysis. Thank you.

  • @douglaswatters7303
    @douglaswatters7303 Рік тому +21

    What is odd to me about this case is all this death and destruction is over three computer monitors. We have a thrift store near me that sells them all the time for ten bucks (yes they are nice flatscreen monitors). I get them all the time for free from apartment and house cleanouts after renters move and leave things behind. Why would he take computer monitors when cameras would record him walking out with them? This whole case is so odd.

    • @jennypham3998
      @jennypham3998 Рік тому +4

      He probably thought it was not a big deal since he worked there and a judge. The monitors probably laying around not in used. Pepple probably borrow or take stuff home all time.Have you seen the video he walked out with the monitors? He looked normal like he s not stealing anything. They hated him so they went after him for stealing. He was planning more killing after Mike but he got caught. His wife testified he had 3 more on his list, a judge and 2 more lawyers. They didnt know it was him until his friend called the police that Eric asked him to rent a warehouse for him. His friend didn't know anything.

    • @margaretfrazier181
      @margaretfrazier181 Рік тому +4

      People make accusations that ruin a person's life on little or NO PROOF or twist innocent behavior into a law breaking offense. Its easy to do. People at work do things without thought at times that can be twisted . These accusers usually get off Scott free. That is so bad and life altering . Some cant get over these injustices.

    • @marisamartin3664
      @marisamartin3664 Рік тому

      @@margaretfrazier181 The Democrat Party has done that to Trump, his family, his advisors, his cabinet and many supporters (1000 now for protesting and being angry- new Fed laws apparently) They have stolen law licenses from Giuliana who singlehandedly haled New York City of crime in the 1990s and other excellent people whom they hate because they lost an election in 2016.

    • @cbesthelper404
      @cbesthelper404 Рік тому +1

      To show that he could. His actions all demonstrate how superior he thought of himself.

    • @jennypham3998
      @jennypham3998 Рік тому +5

      It s not over computer. Mike hated Eric. He didnt want Eric working there. He
      took that opportunity Eric made a mistake to destroyed him.

  • @craigcrawford6749
    @craigcrawford6749 Рік тому +4

    I've dealt with people that try and destroy reputations. No room in this world for them

  • @scottcrawford4148
    @scottcrawford4148 Рік тому +10

    Narcissist VS. Narcissist

  • @connietransference4940
    @connietransference4940 Рік тому +5

    "being narcissistic is not technically required to be in Mensa"....good one, doc!

  • @vacay_bliss
    @vacay_bliss Рік тому +6

    Hollywood couldn't write a story crazier than this. I was surprised to hear more facts about what the victims did to the killer before the crime.

  • @Cletus_the_Elder
    @Cletus_the_Elder Рік тому +10

    I was sympathetic to Eric, until Dr. Grande mentioned that Eric would shoot cats on the farm. This is just bad people taking each other out, it seems. I'm okay with that.

  • @fightingtosurvive6527
    @fightingtosurvive6527 Рік тому +8

    2 narcissist's ended up destroying each other.

  • @naturalroyalflush
    @naturalroyalflush 4 місяці тому +3

    Dr. Grande keeps me awake at night: not because of the content but because the videos are addictive. I watch far past my bedtime 😀.

  • @dustin628
    @dustin628 4 місяці тому +4

    This all happened for borrowing 3 computer screens? This is so sad and unfair.
    I'm sure he never thought taking those screens would result in all this tragedy

    • @mariatorres9789
      @mariatorres9789 Місяць тому

      I think it was 6, & he was going to resell them.

  • @georgestephenopolous5508
    @georgestephenopolous5508 Рік тому +11

    Feel bad for the wives who got unfairly victimized by their husbands' poor decisions. They bullied this Williams guy because he was a goofy nerd.

    • @schizophrantic
      @schizophrantic Рік тому +3

      You mean the wife who got murdered in cold blood?

    • @unowen9668
      @unowen9668 Рік тому

      A goofy nerd murderer?

  • @danilincks5809
    @danilincks5809 Рік тому +25

    The book about this story, In Plain Sight: The Kaufman County Prosecutor Murders by author Kathryn Casey is really interesting!

    • @rachaelhume1818
      @rachaelhume1818 Рік тому +4

      Thanks for that information. I knew nothing about this case.

    • @HoneyHoneyBaby
      @HoneyHoneyBaby Рік тому +2

      Thanks for the recommendation 💯

  • @user-xg3uy6hq9g
    @user-xg3uy6hq9g Рік тому +14

    Mensa is often misunderstood. It is an organization for highly intelligent people who seek peers who share their interests. it often attracts people who are socially akward because they were not understood by their peers when they were growing up, not sharing intersts they felt isolated. its difficult to develop social skills in isolation.

  • @DottieMinerva
    @DottieMinerva Рік тому +15

    Nothing Eric did made sense through our eyes but he’s someone who thinks rules don’t apply to him.
    I also think it was a huge conflict of interest for him to be investigated and tried by people he knew and worked with. That should’ve never been allowed to begin with. This all should’ve been avoided.

    • @teresapribilski1493
      @teresapribilski1493 Рік тому

      I live in a small rural town where everyone knows & most likely are related to each other. It's hard to find an attorney, judge, jury who doesn't know each other.

    • @jennypham3998
      @jennypham3998 Рік тому +1

      How? Even the people know you if you done wrong you still have to pay . That s why we have law to follow.

    • @patrickcorliss8878
      @patrickcorliss8878 8 місяців тому

      It's often the case that the person being bullied wants to get their own back.

  • @cottontails9003
    @cottontails9003 Рік тому +20

    Brilliant analysis as always. The content you upload never fails to make my day. Thank you Dr. Brilliant analysis , tragic outcome and informative

  • @kadzo6614
    @kadzo6614 Рік тому +9

    Just waking up from fibro flares and found Dr. Grande posted. What a great morning, thanks Doc. 💕

  • @edmundwhitaker314
    @edmundwhitaker314 Рік тому +5

    Brilliant again Dr. Grande Your narrative is so clear, captivating and gentle.

  • @Juke582
    @Juke582 Рік тому +13

    Excellent analysis doc as always! I always appreciate your great research and high intelligence. 🙌

  • @lildoveable
    @lildoveable Рік тому +19

    Dr G.... Congratulations!! I'm so proud of you. I saw a Law and Crime show with Jesse Weber and you were a consultant. You looked great, you're so learned, you have pith and moment and your charisma was on full display. It is my prediction that that show is the first on a yellow brick road where opportunity abounds. They are lucky to have you. I have been watching you for a long, long time and you are still an important part of my daily routine. Thank you for being here. ❤️🥳☺️❤️

    • @LINDA-oi4mt
      @LINDA-oi4mt Рік тому +5

      Yes - I saw that same video and the Dr.'s presentation was very very impressive. 👏👏

    • @KD_55
      @KD_55 Рік тому +3

      Which video was it?

    • @lisanelke9726
      @lisanelke9726 Рік тому

      @@KD_55 I want to know too.

    • @lildoveable
      @lildoveable Рік тому

      @@KD_55 It was the Celebration Florida Murders. The Anthony Today family annihilation. He was great. You're gonna love it. It's on the Law and Crime channel I think but you can find it probably just by the keywords. It's very recent too. 😀

  • @hatuletoh
    @hatuletoh Рік тому +24

    One of those cases where there were victims, but there sure as hell weren't any INNOCENT victims. Except the wife who was murdered, I suppose.

    • @GoGreen1977
      @GoGreen1977 Рік тому +9

      We live in a society, especially in a state like Texas, where too many people believe a gun will solve their problems. That's a big part of this tragedy. Also, Eric got his jollies out of shooting cats. That's a big red flag.

    • @marygoff3332
      @marygoff3332 Рік тому

      @@GoGreen1977 Thankfully, guns in the hands of law abiding citizens even the playing field - we don't hear about those cases on the national news as it doesn't help their plan to disarm Americans. Remember, criminals will find guns anyway they can them....

    • @catboxcleaner3532
      @catboxcleaner3532 Рік тому +7

      Yes, the poor wife who was worried for her and her husband’s safety, and paid with her life, and those poor cats on the farm.

    • @jimmyhaley727
      @jimmyhaley727 Рік тому

      @@GoGreen1977 better than a knife or bomb

    • @MusicGamesEverything
      @MusicGamesEverything Рік тому +1

      Well the wife and the friends and families who have to grieve

  • @elmtree33
    @elmtree33 Рік тому +7

    Truly one of the best, if not the best, of Dr. Grande's analyses so far. I've had to deal with these personalities and scenarios in my own life. Several of the points in this video hit a chord (including how others view Mensa membership... I've wondered this before).

  • @jamigoddess
    @jamigoddess Рік тому +1

    Great video as always, Dr. Grande! I always learn so much

  • @LINDA-oi4mt
    @LINDA-oi4mt Рік тому +19

    Wow. Wow. The Universe steered me away from a narcissist slowly, but surely there was a divine intervention for which I shall be forever thankful. I did see just some personality characteristics that I thought were not - pleasant . Didn't know very much at all about narcissism until God put my Google finger on my keyboard and ....the dangerous side of narcissism is rarely actually discussed so thank you for this video and for your affirmation of my "gut feelings." Never heard of communal narcissism......just WOW. I like you more everytime I watch you. Thank you for being here, available for those of us who would not access the warnings in the knowledge that you provide us. 🌹

  • @Jath2112
    @Jath2112 Рік тому +11

    I just got my copy of "Harm Reduction"... I will randomly comment on a future video regarding my experience. I am excited about it. Cheers Doc!

  • @rcelestefelix9299
    @rcelestefelix9299 Рік тому +3

    Fascinating case. Dr. Grande, thank you finding these old cases that demonstrate serious mental problems that lead to serious crimes.

  • @amoshtael1844
    @amoshtael1844 Рік тому

    So interesting! Great analysis, Dr G. Thanks for your work!

  • @RoseRoseRoseRoseRoseRose
    @RoseRoseRoseRoseRoseRose Рік тому +57

    So do I get this right that this sh1t just began due to two power obsessed, narcissistic political rivals? 🤔
    OMG, the poor people around them... I am especially as an apolitical person glad that you wonderfully analyzed with those 6 items that politics obsessed people need to be avoided, hahaha. Thank you for making my morning so challenging, dear Dr. Grande❣️Wish you, your beloved ones, and your audience a wonderful day from here❣️🌄💕

    • @rhondasisco-cleveland2665
      @rhondasisco-cleveland2665 Рік тому +8

      Thank you. I hope your day is wonderful, today.

    • @officialdaveleetv3440
      @officialdaveleetv3440 Рік тому +2

      That first sentence though 👌 Unfortunately, I also feel it has been used in so many, frivolous, trivial scenarios in law than just this one.

    • @jodybrown4956
      @jodybrown4956 Рік тому

      Free show cat killer .

  • @a1b3do
    @a1b3do Рік тому +5

    1 yr probation for the prosecutors, life w/out parole for the cats

  • @user-vs3dw8mt1d
    @user-vs3dw8mt1d Рік тому +3

    Brilliant! You nailed it.

  • @damianstarks3338
    @damianstarks3338 Рік тому +8

    I remember this case thanks for bringing it back to my attention. Perfect analysis as always.

  • @danielintheantipodes6741
    @danielintheantipodes6741 Рік тому +6

    So interesting. I have not heard of this case. Thank you for the video.

  • @stutzbearcat5624
    @stutzbearcat5624 Рік тому +4

    Hi Doc!!
    Love this channel!!

  • @rejaneoliveira5019
    @rejaneoliveira5019 Рік тому +9

    I think it’s always a dangerous game when people try to take justice into their own hands. There is no winner in this situation.
    Insightful analysis! Thank you, Dr. Grande.❤

  • @mirriulahmirriulah1319
    @mirriulahmirriulah1319 Рік тому +1

    Thanks mate, your video certainly gave me a much wider appreciation of the details of this case which are usually overlooked in other presentations.

  • @_MissANGIE
    @_MissANGIE Рік тому +11

    ❤ time for Dr. G
    Love Dr.G analysis.
    Eric was a loof!

  • @mariyaa111
    @mariyaa111 Рік тому +5

    Your voice is so calming! I often listen to your videos while sleeping lol

  • @karlachilders1145
    @karlachilders1145 Рік тому

    Thank you Dr Grande for covering this case. I’ve watched several videos about it but you have shed more light on the motives of the other parties involved than anyone else has. Well done sir

  • @nounae7409
    @nounae7409 Рік тому

    I love these analysis. so well articulated and explained. So interesting!

  • @soapoperabuzz
    @soapoperabuzz Рік тому +11

    Thanks for analyzing the case Dr grande.

  • @sandinewton1896
    @sandinewton1896 Рік тому +9

    Sadly, I have a feeling these crimes will be more numerous and it’s becoming a crime to disagree with, or “offend” people to the point they need to be punished. NOT MY BELIEF

  • @sugarpuddin
    @sugarpuddin 3 місяці тому

    Fascinating! Excellent analysis!

  • @TheRunAndGun10
    @TheRunAndGun10 10 місяців тому

    Very interesting. Thanks for your analysis.

  • @marykf3325
    @marykf3325 Рік тому +4

    Thank you for the fair and balanced information concerning this case. I recently saw a version of this on a true crime show but it left out a substantial part of the story. There was nothing about Mr. McClelland's malicious prosecution and smear campaign or how the legal community felt about his over zealous behaviour. Excellent analysis!

  • @aviation11000
    @aviation11000 Рік тому +10

    Dateline presents a biased perspective on this case. I had no idea what the full story was. Thanks for providing a complete picture of this case.

  • @LiliWhyte
    @LiliWhyte Рік тому

    Another very interesting, in-depth final analysis. Ty.

  • @Olive131
    @Olive131 Рік тому +4

    An ego fed by power and resentment can be catastrophic.

  • @chriswalker7356
    @chriswalker7356 Рік тому +28

    I was familiar with this case from watching a television program. This TV show didn't cover the personal animosity between the Michael and Eric. As usual your analysis you excellent.

  • @glendabarton45barton48
    @glendabarton45barton48 Рік тому +3

    Suspect and victim seemed to be mirror images of each other. Their hate and animosity, paranoia and vindictiveness seemed to feed off each other.

  • @PLEASEMAKEANOTEOFIT
    @PLEASEMAKEANOTEOFIT Рік тому

    One of the best presentations yet. The narcissism dynamo at it's worst.

  • @KoolT
    @KoolT Рік тому +2

    Great lesson doc

  • @rachaelhume1818
    @rachaelhume1818 Рік тому +8

    I had never heard of this case. This one really got to me. Thank you for covering it.

    • @mrfrostbite2020
      @mrfrostbite2020 Рік тому +1

      Why, did it get to you?

    • @jennypham3998
      @jennypham3998 Рік тому +1

      There s a dateline show about it.

    • @rachaelhume1818
      @rachaelhume1818 Рік тому

      @@mrfrostbite2020 Idk exactly. The odd thing is that many cases are more devastating than this, but there is something about 2 people with the wrong, (for lack of a better word) psychological makeup, could take it to this level when forced to work in the same setting that made me feel like a tragic ending was inevitable.

  • @harlowblackadder356
    @harlowblackadder356 Рік тому +3

    Amazing that these are grown, educated adults. Smh.

  • @stevenwest000
    @stevenwest000 Рік тому

    Thanks for another great video, along with your expected humour, Dr Grande!!! :)

  • @wap9137
    @wap9137 11 місяців тому

    This is one of your best ones, Dr. Grande.

  • @janiekilkelly
    @janiekilkelly Рік тому +5

    That was really fascinating, scary people!

  • @elainesmith7512
    @elainesmith7512 8 місяців тому

    Interesting AND excellent!! Thanks for sharing. 👍👍

  • @chrissheridan8947
    @chrissheridan8947 8 місяців тому

    Well reasoned argument, which you centred on in a very clear, easy to understand way. Thanks

  • @scttshwldct
    @scttshwldct 2 місяці тому +3

    "... although, being narcissistic isn't technically required to be in MENSA." Dude, your deadpan delivery is otherworldly. 😄