The wife said they had a hit list with more people on it, and that killing the prosecutors made them feel happy. A Texas newspaper reported that ultimately, he threw his wife under the bus and said she pulled the trigger in all the killings.
I thought they weren't normally overly hard on people they prosecuted, though? Like, wasn't it obvious that they had personal issues with Eric, based on how unwilling they were to treat him just like anyone else?
My dad always said, "When you live by the sword, you die by the sword." In this case, vengeance and arrogance destroyed multiple lives. These men couldn't see two inches in front of their own faces, so to speak. Thanks Dr, G. I think you must be a night owl like me. Your work is appreciated!
No shame in being a night owl. It's most peaceful and quiet to me, but don't forget to enjoy the feeling of the warmth of the sun on you now and then too.
I Should do what I always do and cut and paste and put this in my notes because it’s so hard to edit it because I can’t use my right hand to type anymore and this Apple dictation is pretty sketchy but I think I’m just gonna leave this because there’s so much good valid comments that I need to share and I have been alone so long now! Thank you for your fabulous analysis and oh my gosh did It push every button that I have because what you said about the halo effect is so true and I think my Brother would be surprised to,learn that he is actually a very narcissistic egomaniacal Former D and D playing know it all tattle tailing narc-ee jerk! And I being the designated hitter in my family every time my brother told on me I would get hit and I’m talking my dad still thinks he can punch me and he’s in his 80s and I’m in my 50s so whatever! I’ve done everything in my family to help my parents and to help my Brother and to be a super kind Aunt to my Nieces but now that my Mom is dead and I alone showed up for her and they feel guilty so they are super mean to me and Being a person with mental illness in America is a nightmare! And What they don’t tell you is when you recover from being in a dysfunctional family and you work on your codependency and all that you end up alone not only in your dysfunctional family but the whole world is dysfunctional you know especially in the US where often you do Not have access to a mental illness treatment let alone medication which happens a lot in America sadly. You are a great Doctor and I subscribed I will recommend your video! Thank you❤
You have no idea how many sociopaths/psychopaths matriculate into the justice system for a career. From judges, to attorneys and police they’re everywhere. From what I’ve gathered as a layperson, this bears out in studies and statistical analysis and carries inherent implications and dangers for society. Would love to see Dr. Grande address this phenomena and deeply analyze the nature of this issue. With Kohberger in the news the timing would be perfect.
@@karennash2085 how they end up there is a simple and intuitive social mechanic we don’t talk about often enough and so I don’t think we guard against it like we should. A high functioning person with dark triad personality traits will seek a profession that allows them to indulge their impulses. It’s the same cause and effect relationship that drives an empathetic and caring individual to pursue a career in nursing, someone who has a fondness for children to go into childcare, or the kid who likes to dismantle gadgets to eventually become an engineer. A socially integrated psychopath or sociopath will often chart a socially acceptable path to satisfy their need for dominance and power play by gaining arbitrary authority through their profession. This is why we end up with more than a few bad cops imo. This is why you see police work and military service among the top desired professions of serial killers. In some instances they become politicians and CEOs because they lack inhibitions, will do whatever is necessary to obtain the status they desire, and have unbridled ambition.
@@marciasloan534 I had an uncle who was an attorney and judge in a small community south of Louisville, he’s been dead for maybe 15 years, but he was an absolute criminal who ran drugs and prostitution rings.
We are experiencing it right now- more than 1000 conservative political prisoners of Leftist Feds who are just as vindictive, malicious, and petty. I wish every one of them a truly just Judgement Day.
I don't understand why he was prosecuted by his own colleagues. His case should have been given to an impartial judge and all this story would not have happened.
8:25 "His career in criminal justice was permanently over,.. at least on the side where he would be getting paid for his services." 😂 Classic Dr. Grande dry humour! I love it!
@@CharlesHess OH... Is THAT why I see the cactus motif everywhere. I just thought he really liked cactus's. But now that you mention it, cactus's reflecting his dry humor makes perfect sense..
Exactly. Our politicians are currently hard at work trying to take everything away from regular working people. When you take away a man's hope, he has nothing to lose. Those in power should heed this.
The loss of status can be a huge motivator to lash out and in some cases, kill.. Something so called leaders in our society have not figured out yet (or maybe they just don't care) as they allow or force more and more people down the success ladder,
I know first hand how vicious these criminal Justice employees of the county can be, and how much they can latch on and get a vendetta. I have minimal sympathy for the two deceased.
Bastards abound. In politics too. Kissing ass is part of success. Get on the wrong side of a proud powerful man and there's trouble. They show evil actions when driven by revenge activated by pride, social standing, king of the castle, money and like Michael...bide their time then push it to the limit. Michael asked for his fate but others didn't. He pushed a nut too hard... He took EVERYTHING from him so Eric took everything from him too. Woeful case Really well analysed and presented. It appears reasonably unbiased whereas other accounts could show Michael as " only doing his job"
They tried to charge an ex of mine with terrorism in texas because he had a trunk full of fireworks going back home to Louisiana for the 4th of july. The young prosecutor was dead set on ruining his life to advance his career, thankfully a judge threw the case out when he saw how trumped up the charges were. People can be such bastards sometimes
Its like watching a kid throw rocks at a hornets nest then cry bloody murder when the hornets come out to sting him. If we had a proper justice system in this country, not only would all 3 of these "people" not be allowed any semblance of controp over the justice system. They would probably be in jail themselves!
these are local officials...now imagine the hubris of those that work their way up the ladder to state and federal levels of authority? it truly is a nightmare for anyone without the wealth to fight back.
It can be pretty risky to relentlessly bully a man until he is desperate, furious, and hopeless. You might think he is weak or meek, but you don’t really know what a man is capable of when he thinks he doesn’t have any better options.
The problem here is there are 2 (maybe 3) monsters. I read the original post as making that clear. Just because someone died doesn't remove their monstrous behaviour and their corrupt behaviour, which ultimately played a part in their own demise
@@KARMABELLA24 Don't be so sure that if extremely provoked, you'd have what it takes to maintain equanimity and calmly suck it up. Each of us would have a level of provocation that if exceeded, would drive us to behaviour generally regarded as monstrous.
@@erdelegy I'm not sure how that works. My Dad was a public defender, and he was offered to be a municipal judge if he could come up with a considerable amount of money. He couldn't, so he remained a public defender.
I remember talking to a friend about this case after the second murder was announced. I was commenting to my friend that Michael was shown in an earlier clip saying, "I'm a soldier" (as though that made him impervious to attack). My friend replied, "Soldiers die too!" It seems like that was a perfect case of over confidence in one's abilities.
What Mike meant is he s ready to fight and die anytime when he need to. Of course everyone know soldier die too. Actually they are the one who die easier, sooner, uglier than anyone else.
okay so I'm from Kaufman county, my mother was an attorney from the area and knew all of the people involved and im impressed how accurate you got most of this story, however there is a detail you wouldn't know unless you know the people working there and know the reason he took the computers. the story is that Eric was told by one of mclellands assistants that they were going to be replacing the computers and he could "take them if he wanted them" and mclelland HOPPED on the opportunity to get Eric fired as retaliation for trying to push mclelland out of office, the good old boys system at its finest
Those two men who maliciously prosecuted him for political reasons, kinda did this to themselves. They are no better than Eric in that they grossly abused their power. Except with them their was an actual victim. Not two or three missing computer monitors. They all sucked and non should've been in positions of any authority. Looks like the trash took itself out. The poor wife is the only true victim.
The fact that the police didn't take Michael's concerns seriously--when police officers usually are known for looking out for DAs--was extremely telling. And while Eric certainly was wrong and should be in prison for how he handled the situation, documentaries painting Michael to be some innocent victim like Cynthia is misleading.
@@GAshoneybear They don't look out for DA's they look out for DA's who they gossip with or share political views with or are friendly with or ones who they don't know are obsessive vindictive people who do things for petty reasons. It's very strange to hear from people who are presumably American who think there is some kind of mystical force binding police officers and members of the justice system to some kind of code that can't be dismissed on a personal whim. Everything they do is selective
A harmless appearance of a person can provoke certain people into terrorizing this person. I guess it's a kind of power trip that can become extremely addictive. It's why there are bullys in school. A harmless look can deceive though. This prosecutor learned it too late.
I've got mixed emotions about this killing. When someone has the power to wreck your life they also have the responsibility to be fair and not carry out a personal vendetta. Otherwise you get what you get.
@@Aaron-kj8dv He had police guarded his house and patrol neighborhood24/7 after Mark got killed. It was Easter Sunday. For some reason they didn't have police patrol his house that day. Eric showed up wearing police clothes, he bought a lookalike police car. Mike 's wife looked and thought it was the police because the police came to their house all time. Eric shot her. Mike ran to reach his gun but no time.
@@davidhoward4715 I'm about as liberal as it gets however I have experienced something like this with people in powerful positions and after having exhausted every possible remedy without true legal relief you can bet your ass I began to plot to seek my own justice as the courts would not. This breach of the public trust by the people who swore to uphold the law is unbelievably common in small towns across America. Fortunately the individual who had initially used his position to, (let's just be honest) torture me died of a heart attack and the other party who was a judge got caught interfering in a custody battle and was removed from the bench and skipped town to avoid the shame and I couldn't find him. But believe me I so raw about it I really didn't care if I got caught or not. I actually had convinced myself that I would be saving others from a similar disparity and whatever the punishment it would be justified. When you feel powerless and have suffered great injury even the most liberal of people can convince themselves to do unto others as they have done to you . If you've never felt that need for extra legal revenge then you probably have never been hurt by people of power and should count yourself very lucky indeed.
The fact he was fired from two separate police departments at the beginning of his career is very telling….. These guys who can not follow instructions, often feel they are above the law and many are narcissists. I find it very interesting that his wife helped him with these murders as she too felt these guys were picking on her husband and felt she too was above the law…. Neither thought they would get caught, even though it was murder, so it also shows both also were mentally ill.
I think it’s always a dangerous game when people try to take justice into their own hands. There is no winner in this situation. Insightful analysis! Thank you, Dr. Grande.❤
I didn't know the backstory of this case but I remember when this happened. Now that I know the story I find it hard to feel sympathy for the victims, especially now that I'm older and have seen our tiered justice system in play and have seen how egregious or the same crimes are ignored whilst people who have committed lesser crimes are destroyed all based on political affiliation or the whims of prosecutors.
This segment was very informative. I live in Dallas and when this series of events was taking place, none of the background about the vindictive motives of McClellan was ever mentioned in any local news story. It was always posed as Eric Williams being a nutcase out of nowhere.
As an ex-member of mensa, I can reassure you that, although there are undoubtedly narcissistic members, most of the members I met were more interested in board games, discussion, and dating possibilities than grandiose bragging, or dreams of wreaking vengeance upon those who did not recognise them. There is also another question that arises-what is the collective name for a group of narcissists? - a bunch? It doesn't sound like it would exist for long.
I met my prom date at a Mensa board game weekend so you are spot on. I think we were both nerds who had little chance of a normal date from our own schools, so you are spot on. :)
Prosecutors are, anyway. It's a job that's nothing but finding fault in others, and plenty of people with naïve ideas about crime and punishment see them as "the good guys" in the court room there to throw the book at "the bad guys" and lock them up.
So basically a pissing contest between two narcissists resulted in the death of three individuals and the incarcelation of two, and the suffering of all of their family and friends.
I'm a UK based Forensic Psychiatrist, I'm always intrigued about how much overlap there is sometimes in these cases with individuals with High Functioning Autism. There is limited developmental history in this case, but some his early behaviours (refusing to make contact with dirt, insist on being dressed in white) appear more consistent with Autism than Narcissistic PD.
At first, I said to myself " cut to the chase " but then I realized that you are providing a comprehensive breakdown of the crime and the people involved. Excellent!
Right. Other documentaries I've seen about Eric painted Michael and Mark as innocent victims that Eric just targeted for no reason. Mark is questionable (at best), but Michael was not innocent in any capacity.
As always, thank you for an alternative perspective to a case I have followed for years. None of the true crime shows allowed that perhaps Mr. McClelland was somewhat responsible for this tragedy. Good analysis!
Mike McClelland was a clinical psychologist for many years before pursuing a legal carer (as stated in his obituary which can be found online). Apparently he did not get much self insight out of it .
@@ovidiustoica5055 Honestly that's not surprising. Many mentally ill people want to become phycologist themselves because they think that that's going to solve their problems, or some have even worse motives, like wanting to study that field to manipulate others so yeah, I bet he was no different than that.
These two guys Mike and Mark were stupid for more or less egging this guy on and underestimating what he was capable of. However Mike's wife did not deserve to die in this. Eric killed her and Mike put her in danger.
Mike McClelland was a clinical psychologist for many years before pursuing a legal carer (according to his obituary). Apparently he did not get much self insight out of it .
Excellent-, Dr Grange you always see inside the case. The part about the narcissist not caring who else they destroy was so true. The wives were drawn inside this and one killed and one in prison with a horrible disease. 🤦🏼♀️ crazy people
This all happened for borrowing 3 computer screens? This is so sad and unfair. I'm sure he never thought taking those screens would result in all this tragedy
This story demonstrates how those in power (cops, prosecutors, judges) happily play fast and loose with the law on a daily basis, selectively choosing what to enforce and who to punish based on their own whims. This is the system working as intended.
I’ve heard this case MANY times but have never heard some of the facts Dr Grande presented. It made a lot more sense now. It’s a very sad and scary case but at least I understand better what was going on. Excellent work, Dr Grande.
I heard about this from a prime time show years ago. They completely left out the harassment from the DA's office. Still not a justification for homicide, but l thought there might be more to this story. Thanks for sharing the information.
I think there is more to the story too. There must be a reason why the DA was upset that Eric supported his opponent in the election. He certainly could not expect everyone to support him so why was he particularly upset that Eric supported his opponent.? I certainly do not think that eliminating someone who is trying to destroy your life because you supported his opponent in an election is a narcissistic reaction. I think it's normal acceptable reaction. It would be cowardice to do otherwise.
I'm glad you analyzed this case. I had watched it on one of the true crime channels. They said alot of negative things about Eric Williams, but made the DA out to be just an innocent man doing his job. IMO, the assistance DA was between a rock and a hard place and the only one who was innocent in this.
My guess is that all three were narcissists: the DA, Asst. DA, and Eric. My beliefs follow. The DA had a vendetta against Eric and the Asst. DA knew it and was happy to go after Eric as hard as the DA wished (like a pitbull going after someone on behalf of its master). The Asst. DA is no angel. They both pursued Eric, going after his livelihood, reputation, and everything else that gave Eric any sense of worth to the public...essentially maliciously destroying his persona. Eric snapped at feeling targeted and exacted his murderous revenge.
Honestly, they mistreated that man until he snapped. They took everything from him so he decided to do the same to his aggressors. This was sad all the way around. This shows how dangerous the human mind can be!
I remember this. He was good at fixing computer problems and even though it was outside his job description was the go to guy for this. He maintained, and many believed, that he removed the computers to work on them. He had supported a different candidate than the people in power and they took this as an opportunity to get him. And then, he got them per Dr Grandes personality analysis of them all. I seem to remember a film of him with an uncontrolled smile while being interviewed on TV about the murders before he was charged.
I'm remembering more. There was a procedure to sign out, log the removal, of computers and this time he just removed them. And his political enemies pounced.
Forgot there was a communal narcissist also. Another story of vindictiveness & ego leading to murder. Great points esp about people's views on narcissism. Thanks Dr G😊💌💌
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Very interesting and very well-written and presented too. Thank you for setting out both the facts and your analysis clearly and concisely, without any of the usual social-media hooting and posing. Most enjoyable and understandable!
Thorough! Having been a therapist at a state hospital for many years these folks and their behaviors can be difficult to unravel. Your take on these messy and complicated cases is very interesting indeed. (What's with all the cacti 🙂
Outsanding case analysis. Absolutely appreciate how you dissect the personality nuances that informs the behaviors of those involved. If you ever consider teaching a course, I would sign up.
Thank you Dr Grande for covering this case. I’ve watched several videos about it but you have shed more light on the motives of the other parties involved than anyone else has. Well done sir
@@Thomas-yw9eo while i praise you for your honesty i do not praise you for the egotistical conclusion you've arrived at. don't feed your reptilian brain, transcend your primal instincts big dog, it's a much better way to be
Forgiveness is weakness and only for the poor and powerless. You think the state will ever forgive you for any breaking of law? You should never forgive public officials even the smallest of slights, as the same people would put you in jail for life the moment the law allows it.
@Pat Luxor I didn’t harm anyone the Covidiot criminals KILLED people. If you want to forgive them do it but don’t tell other people they should. Typical authoritian no wonder you defend them.
Truth is stranger than fiction 😮 thank you for laying out that complex saga in a way we can better understand the collision of so many egos. Extraordinary and mind boggling that they were all able to do what they did.
Yes, it was arrogance. I think he wanted to send a message that he could do whatever he wanted. He took pleasure in strutting due to his oversized ego.
That’s not what the person who experienced it said. That’s what you wish he said to fit a story you already wrote in your mind, that won’t budge based on evidence or testimony. You should be a lawyer too
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@@KD_55 It was the Celebration Florida Murders. The Anthony Today family annihilation. He was great. You're gonna love it. It's on the Law and Crime channel I think but you can find it probably just by the keywords. It's very recent too. 😀
When I first heard about this story, the media completely ignored the campaign these two prosectors waged against this man. They pained Eric as an entitled pos and the prosecutors as innocent do-gooders. I was bamboozled I’m afraid. Amazing how the real story comes out when you get to the bottom of things.
Wow. Wow. The Universe steered me away from a narcissist slowly, but surely there was a divine intervention for which I shall be forever thankful. I did see just some personality characteristics that I thought were not - pleasant . Didn't know very much at all about narcissism until God put my Google finger on my keyboard and ....the dangerous side of narcissism is rarely actually discussed so thank you for this video and for your affirmation of my "gut feelings." Never heard of communal narcissism......just WOW. I like you more everytime I watch you. Thank you for being here, available for those of us who would not access the warnings in the knowledge that you provide us. 🌹
So do I get this right that this sh1t just began due to two power obsessed, narcissistic political rivals? 🤔 OMG, the poor people around them... I am especially as an apolitical person glad that you wonderfully analyzed with those 6 items that politics obsessed people need to be avoided, hahaha. Thank you for making my morning so challenging, dear Dr. Grande❣️Wish you, your beloved ones, and your audience a wonderful day from here❣️🌄💕
Mensa is often misunderstood. It is an organization for highly intelligent people who seek peers who share their interests. it often attracts people who are socially akward because they were not understood by their peers when they were growing up, not sharing intersts they felt isolated. its difficult to develop social skills in isolation.
Eric enjoyed shooting cats?! That’s a huge red flag! Sometimes I do wonder if narcissism is a common trait among those in MENSA. It seems that narcissism brings out the narcissism in others and blind spots. Great presentation as always! Thanks, Dr. Grande
Truly one of the best, if not the best, of Dr. Grande's analyses so far. I've had to deal with these personalities and scenarios in my own life. Several of the points in this video hit a chord (including how others view Mensa membership... I've wondered this before).
I was familiar with this case from watching a television program. This TV show didn't cover the personal animosity between the Michael and Eric. As usual your analysis you excellent.
Wow, it’s amazing when you hear the back story, thanks so much for the enlightenment, I feel a bit sorry for Erik now, the murders certainly aren’t justified but desperate people do desperate things…..
Thank you for covering this case. I seen it before on other channels and I remember when they sentenced him for the stolen monitors. Michael stared belittle him. How he was a menace to society. That’s when I though ok this is definitely not about monitors
Thank you for the fair and balanced information concerning this case. I recently saw a version of this on a true crime show but it left out a substantial part of the story. There was nothing about Mr. McClelland's malicious prosecution and smear campaign or how the legal community felt about his over zealous behaviour. Excellent analysis!
What is odd to me about this case is all this death and destruction is over three computer monitors. We have a thrift store near me that sells them all the time for ten bucks (yes they are nice flatscreen monitors). I get them all the time for free from apartment and house cleanouts after renters move and leave things behind. Why would he take computer monitors when cameras would record him walking out with them? This whole case is so odd.
He probably thought it was not a big deal since he worked there and a judge. The monitors probably laying around not in used. Pepple probably borrow or take stuff home all time.Have you seen the video he walked out with the monitors? He looked normal like he s not stealing anything. They hated him so they went after him for stealing. He was planning more killing after Mike but he got caught. His wife testified he had 3 more on his list, a judge and 2 more lawyers. They didnt know it was him until his friend called the police that Eric asked him to rent a warehouse for him. His friend didn't know anything.
People make accusations that ruin a person's life on little or NO PROOF or twist innocent behavior into a law breaking offense. Its easy to do. People at work do things without thought at times that can be twisted . These accusers usually get off Scott free. That is so bad and life altering . Some cant get over these injustices.
@@margaretfrazier181 The Democrat Party has done that to Trump, his family, his advisors, his cabinet and many supporters (1000 now for protesting and being angry- new Fed laws apparently) They have stolen law licenses from Giuliana who singlehandedly haled New York City of crime in the 1990s and other excellent people whom they hate because they lost an election in 2016.
In a simuIar case I know somebody who stole many documents when they left their job in the federal government. We was asked to return them, but his ego did not allow him to admit he took them. So his house was raided and they were found. He still does not understand he did anything wrong. Nor does his supporters......
"2 narcissists going against each other..", perfect explanation of this case.
And one who relied on a gun to solve his problems.
Yes! Guns always up the ante!
“2 lawyers going after each other…” would be sufficient
I think this is one of my favourite cases so far - just the sheer madness of it all!
The wife said they had a hit list with more people on it, and that killing the prosecutors made them feel happy. A Texas newspaper reported that ultimately, he threw his wife under the bus and said she pulled the trigger in all the killings.
Just imagine how terrible those prosecutors must have been to the other people they prosecuted
I thought they weren't normally overly hard on people they prosecuted, though? Like, wasn't it obvious that they had personal issues with Eric, based on how unwilling they were to treat him just like anyone else?
Sounds like a case of " good riddance to bad rubbish" to me
Were the prosecutors related to "DA BINGER" ???
In the end Eric won the feud against the two. Shows you how DA's have way too much power yet they decide who goes to prison who doesn't.
@@Mike-01234 They decide only who gets tried, and who doesn't.
My dad always said, "When you live by the sword, you die by the sword." In this case, vengeance and arrogance destroyed multiple lives. These men couldn't see two inches in front of their own faces, so to speak.
Thanks Dr, G. I think you must be a night owl like me. Your work is appreciated!
Jesus said those words, "Live by the sword die by the sword". Poetic justice.
Sword: weapon of war, conflict, violence.
Your words sound like something Dr. Grande would say. Well done!
No shame in being a night owl. It's most peaceful and quiet to me, but don't forget to enjoy the feeling of the warmth of the sun on you now and then too.
Yep! just as it's no coincidence that words and sword carry the same letters just as week sounds like weak and weekend sounds like weakened 😉
I Should do what I always do and cut and paste and put this in my notes because it’s so hard to edit it because I can’t use my right hand to type anymore and this Apple dictation is pretty sketchy but I think I’m just gonna leave this because there’s so much good valid comments that I need to share and I have been alone so long now! Thank you for your fabulous analysis and oh my gosh did It push every button that I have because what you said about the halo effect is so true and I think my Brother would be surprised to,learn that he is actually a very narcissistic egomaniacal Former D and D playing know it all tattle tailing narc-ee jerk! And I being the designated hitter in my family every time my brother told on me I would get hit and I’m talking my dad still thinks he can punch me and he’s in his 80s and I’m in my 50s so whatever! I’ve done everything in my family to help my parents and to help my Brother and to be a super kind Aunt to my Nieces but now that my Mom is dead and I alone showed up for her and they feel guilty so they are super mean to me and Being a person with mental illness in America is a nightmare! And What they don’t tell you is when you recover from being in a dysfunctional family and you work on your codependency and all that you end up alone not only in your dysfunctional family but the whole world is dysfunctional you know especially in the US where often you do Not have access to a mental illness treatment let alone medication which happens a lot in America sadly. You are a great Doctor and I subscribed I will recommend your video! Thank you❤
"... although, being narcissistic isn't technically required to be in MENSA." Dude, your deadpan delivery is otherworldly. 😄
This paints such a colorful view of the Judicial System.
You have no idea how many sociopaths/psychopaths matriculate into the justice system for a career. From judges, to attorneys and police they’re everywhere. From what I’ve gathered as a layperson, this bears out in studies and statistical analysis and carries inherent implications and dangers for society. Would love to see Dr. Grande address this phenomena and deeply analyze the nature of this issue. With Kohberger in the news the timing would be perfect.
I know of a predator wanting to be a judge.
So far ? DEFEATED
I in 20 people are psychopathic. It follows that police men, judges and lawyers had a good chance of being psychopathic.
You are spot on. There are many toxic people on the bench and in other positions of power.
@@karennash2085 how they end up there is a simple and intuitive social mechanic we don’t talk about often enough and so I don’t think we guard against it like we should.
A high functioning person with dark triad personality traits will seek a profession that allows them to indulge their impulses.
It’s the same cause and effect relationship that drives an empathetic and caring individual to pursue a career in nursing, someone who has a fondness for children to go into childcare, or the kid who likes to dismantle gadgets to eventually become an engineer.
A socially integrated psychopath or sociopath will often chart a socially acceptable path to satisfy their need for dominance and power play by gaining arbitrary authority through their profession. This is why we end up with more than a few bad cops imo. This is why you see police work and military service among the top desired professions of serial killers.
In some instances they become politicians and CEOs because they lack inhibitions, will do whatever is necessary to obtain the status they desire, and have unbridled ambition.
@@marciasloan534 I had an uncle who was an attorney and judge in a small community south of Louisville, he’s been dead for maybe 15 years, but he was an absolute criminal who ran drugs and prostitution rings.
The discretion that the government has in going after someone is mind-boggling.
We are experiencing it right now- more than 1000 conservative political prisoners of Leftist Feds who are just as vindictive, malicious, and petty. I wish every one of them a truly just Judgement Day.
I don't understand why he was prosecuted by his own colleagues. His case should have been given to an impartial judge and all this story would not have happened.
Government officials love the power and just want to share that power with their friends. Democracy is dead
Yep. All police have the discretion to further their stop with you.
@@v1das007 Geez, he got probation and for a justice that was light.
8:25 "His career in criminal justice was permanently over,.. at least on the side where he would be getting paid for his services." 😂
Classic Dr. Grande dry humour!
I love it!
Hahaha 🤭
Hence the cactus decor.
@@CharlesHess OH... Is THAT why I see the cactus motif everywhere. I just thought he really liked cactus's. But now that you mention it, cactus's reflecting his dry humor makes perfect sense..
@@michaeladair6557 Cacti*
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Reminds me of the axiom "When you seek revenge, always remember to dig two graves".
Dr. Grande keeps me awake at night: not because of the content but because the videos are addictive. I watch far past my bedtime 😀.
That's what you get when you try to take everything from someone and they have nothing more to lose.
Exactly. Our politicians are currently hard at work trying to take everything away from regular working people. When you take away a man's hope, he has nothing to lose. Those in power should heed this.
Right? They obviously had a death wish.
The loss of status can be a huge motivator to lash out and in some cases, kill.. Something so called leaders in our society have not figured out yet (or maybe they just don't care) as they allow or force more and more people down the success ladder,
@@dianelipartito6654 when the revolution comes its gonna be a bloodbath.
Tbf tho, the dude did deserve to lose everything
I know first hand how vicious these criminal Justice employees of the county can be, and how much they can latch on and get a vendetta. I have minimal sympathy for the two deceased.
Bastards abound. In politics too. Kissing ass is part of success. Get on the wrong side of a proud powerful man and there's trouble. They show evil actions when driven by revenge activated by pride, social standing, king of the castle, money and like Michael...bide their time then push it to the limit. Michael asked for his fate but others didn't. He pushed a nut too hard... He took EVERYTHING from him so Eric took everything from him too. Woeful case
Really well analysed and presented. It appears reasonably unbiased whereas other accounts could show Michael as " only doing his job"
I can't believe you said that. But I feel that same way. I am dealing with one right now
They tried to charge an ex of mine with terrorism in texas because he had a trunk full of fireworks going back home to Louisiana for the 4th of july. The young prosecutor was dead set on ruining his life to advance his career, thankfully a judge threw the case out when he saw how trumped up the charges were. People can be such bastards sometimes
Its like watching a kid throw rocks at a hornets nest then cry bloody murder when the hornets come out to sting him. If we had a proper justice system in this country, not only would all 3 of these "people" not be allowed any semblance of controp over the justice system. They would probably be in jail themselves!
these are local officials...now imagine the hubris of those that work their way up the ladder to state and federal levels of authority? it truly is a nightmare for anyone without the wealth to fight back.
Justice isn't blind. Justice is a petty whore that can be bought.
'This guy Eric had a lot of determination and follow through, and in the end, he was wildly successful.
It can be pretty risky to relentlessly bully a man until he is desperate, furious, and hopeless. You might think he is weak or meek, but you don’t really know what a man is capable of when he thinks he doesn’t have any better options.
I think most narcissists don’t really think of their affect on others, period. This was a case of narcissists colliding.
Are you suggesting we have compassion for a monster?
The problem here is there are 2 (maybe 3) monsters. I read the original post as making that clear. Just because someone died doesn't remove their monstrous behaviour and their corrupt behaviour, which ultimately played a part in their own demise
They got exactly what they had coming. They hid behind the legal system when natural justice would always result in this outcome.
@@KARMABELLA24 Don't be so sure that if extremely provoked, you'd have what it takes to maintain equanimity and calmly suck it up. Each of us would have a level of provocation that if exceeded, would drive us to behaviour generally regarded as monstrous.
I'm flabbergasted that a man who was fired 8 months after joining the force was hired as a judge in the first place.
@@erdelegy I'm not sure how that works. My Dad was a public defender, and he was offered to be a municipal judge if he could come up with a considerable amount of money. He couldn't, so he remained a public defender.
the judges in america have to be more psychopatic as the police
It's called a second chance. People like you are critical about others having that but I bet youd wish that yourself.
He was an assistant
@@EdDunkle wow
Absolutely can see how this happened. The only one I felt sorry for was the wife.
Which one?!😊
The wives.
@@rogerpattube the one killed
@@shingj4007 no. Just the one murdered
I agree. I feel bad for him killing Cynthia. That's it.
I remember talking to a friend about this case after the second murder was announced. I was commenting to my friend that Michael was shown in an earlier clip saying, "I'm a soldier" (as though that made him impervious to attack). My friend replied, "Soldiers die too!" It seems like that was a perfect case of over confidence in one's abilities.
What Mike meant is he s ready to fight and die anytime when he need to. Of course everyone know soldier die too. Actually they are the one who die easier, sooner, uglier than anyone else.
okay so I'm from Kaufman county, my mother was an attorney from the area and knew all of the people involved and im impressed how accurate you got most of this story, however there is a detail you wouldn't know unless you know the people working there and know the reason he took the computers. the story is that Eric was told by one of mclellands assistants that they were going to be replacing the computers and he could "take them if he wanted them" and mclelland HOPPED on the opportunity to get Eric fired as retaliation for trying to push mclelland out of office, the good old boys system at its finest
Those two men who maliciously prosecuted him for political reasons, kinda did this to themselves. They are no better than Eric in that they grossly abused their power. Except with them their was an actual victim. Not two or three missing computer monitors.
They all sucked and non should've been in positions of any authority. Looks like the trash took itself out.
The poor wife is the only true victim.
The fact that the police didn't take Michael's concerns seriously--when police officers usually are known for looking out for DAs--was extremely telling. And while Eric certainly was wrong and should be in prison for how he handled the situation, documentaries painting Michael to be some innocent victim like Cynthia is misleading.
@@GAshoneybear They don't look out for DA's they look out for DA's who they gossip with or share political views with or are friendly with or ones who they don't know are obsessive vindictive people who do things for petty reasons. It's very strange to hear from people who are presumably American who think there is some kind of mystical force binding police officers and members of the justice system to some kind of code that can't be dismissed on a personal whim. Everything they do is selective
Well Said
@@GAshoneybearYeah sounds like the local cops hated him too
Which wife?
A harmless appearance of a person can provoke certain people into terrorizing this person. I guess it's a kind of power trip that can become extremely addictive. It's why there are bullys in school. A harmless look can deceive though. This prosecutor learned it too late.
and projecting your blame or anger AT an obvious nut job is a really bad idea, especially when they know where you live.
Schadenfreude. 💆
I've got mixed emotions about this killing. When someone has the power to wreck your life they also have the responsibility to be fair and not carry out a personal vendetta. Otherwise you get what you get.
He even dared the guy to come over and kill him. Boy I bet he was embarrassed when he took him up on his offer.
He didn't live long enough for that!
@@Aaron-kj8dv He had police guarded his house and patrol neighborhood24/7 after Mark got killed. It was Easter Sunday. For some reason they didn't have police patrol his house that day. Eric showed up wearing police clothes, he bought a lookalike police car. Mike 's wife looked and thought it was the police because the police came to their house all time. Eric shot her. Mike ran to reach his gun but no time.
So you people support murderers and oppose law and order. You're obviously Republicans.
@@davidhoward4715 I'm about as liberal as it gets however I have experienced something like this with people in powerful positions and after having exhausted every possible remedy without true legal relief you can bet your ass I began to plot to seek my own justice as the courts would not. This breach of the public trust by the people who swore to uphold the law is unbelievably common in small towns across America.
Fortunately the individual who had initially used his position to, (let's just be honest) torture me died of a heart attack and the other party who was a judge got caught interfering in a custody battle and was removed from the bench and skipped town to avoid the shame and I couldn't find him. But believe me I so raw about it I really didn't care if I got caught or not. I actually had convinced myself that I would be saving others from a similar disparity and whatever the punishment it would be justified.
When you feel powerless and have suffered great injury even the most liberal of people can convince themselves to do unto others as they have done to you . If you've never felt that need for extra legal revenge then you probably have never been hurt by people of power and should count yourself very lucky indeed.
The fact he was fired from two separate police departments at the beginning of his career is very telling….. These guys who can not follow instructions, often feel they are above the law and many are narcissists. I find it very interesting that his wife helped him with these murders as she too felt these guys were picking on her husband and felt she too was above the law…. Neither thought they would get caught, even though it was murder, so it also shows both also were mentally ill.
Agree. Eric had huge issues despite how he was treated.
I wouldn't say they were mentally ill, but rather just bad people. It's a personality trait, not a disability.
When you step on someone repeatedly you risk creating a landmine...
I think it’s always a dangerous game when people try to take justice into their own hands. There is no winner in this situation.
Insightful analysis! Thank you, Dr. Grande.❤
I didn't know the backstory of this case but I remember when this happened. Now that I know the story I find it hard to feel sympathy for the victims, especially now that I'm older and have seen our tiered justice system in play and have seen how egregious or the same crimes are ignored whilst people who have committed lesser crimes are destroyed all based on political affiliation or the whims of prosecutors.
Yes indeed
The wife was one of the victims too though
Prosecutors are E V I L 💀
Democrat prosecutors always prosecute conservatives for minor offenses, but they drop charges for black Democrat murderers.
The wife was certainly an innocent victim and did not deserve retribution.
This segment was very informative. I live in Dallas and when this series of events was taking place, none of the background about the vindictive motives of McClellan was ever mentioned in any local news story. It was always posed as Eric Williams being a nutcase out of nowhere.
How did Dr. G found out about that when they wanted to hide it
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I think it wasn't all that hard to find, it was just a matter of Dr. Grande having no interest in not telling the whole story.
The media siding with the establishment? That could not be.
Bet there are a lot of gun-toting nutcases in small towns in the middle of nowhere .
@@largelester
There are gun toters everywhere and nut cases everywhere. In the middle of somewhere and in the middle of nowhere.
A group of narcissists in the same Texas town must be like Murder Hornets in a jar😉
😂😂
Great simile.
The town has less than 7,000 people. That jar is a thimble.
This video explains the situation much better than the recent Dateline 2 hour episode.
As an ex-member of mensa, I can reassure you that, although there are undoubtedly narcissistic members, most of the members I met were more interested in board games, discussion, and dating possibilities than grandiose bragging, or dreams of wreaking vengeance upon those who did not recognise them. There is also another question that arises-what is the collective name for a group of narcissists? - a bunch? It doesn't sound like it would exist for long.
The collective name for narcissists could be 'a vanity of narcissists'. My favourite is 'a murder of crows'. Best wishes from the UK.
I met my prom date at a Mensa board game weekend so you are spot on. I think we were both nerds who had little chance of a normal date from our own schools, so you are spot on. :)
Isn't a group of narcissists called a Home Owner's Association
Why does anyone join Mensa? It screams “I’m a narcissist! Look at me! I’m important 😂”
@sharonmontano4924 spoken like someone who hasn't a remote chance of ever being able to join Mensa
Lawyers are narcissists? **GASP**
Lol
and more than capable for ruining someone's life..
Prosecutors are, anyway. It's a job that's nothing but finding fault in others, and plenty of people with naïve ideas about crime and punishment see them as "the good guys" in the court room there to throw the book at "the bad guys" and lock them up.
Wonderful sum up. "The police were now confident," is not supposed to be funny but your Bob Newhart delivery has me stifling laughter at 4 AM.
So basically a pissing contest between two narcissists resulted in the death of three individuals and the incarcelation of two, and the suffering of all of their family and friends.
Excellent summation! lol...
Spot on
Yeah. I don't get it at all.
Also some were incarcerated
Well…not all narcissists are murderers. Otherwise we wouldn’t have a civilization to speak of, it’d be back to the Stone Age.
I'm a UK based Forensic Psychiatrist, I'm always intrigued about how much overlap there is sometimes in these cases with individuals with High Functioning Autism. There is limited developmental history in this case, but some his early behaviours (refusing to make contact with dirt, insist on being dressed in white) appear more consistent with Autism than Narcissistic PD.
He can be both. They are not mutually excluded.
@@marciawade8813 That is true.
At first, I said to myself " cut to the chase " but then I realized that you are providing a comprehensive breakdown of the crime and the people involved. Excellent!
Right. Other documentaries I've seen about Eric painted Michael and Mark as innocent victims that Eric just targeted for no reason. Mark is questionable (at best), but Michael was not innocent in any capacity.
As always, thank you for an alternative perspective to a case I have followed for years. None of the true crime shows allowed that perhaps Mr. McClelland was somewhat responsible for this tragedy. Good analysis!
Exactly what I just commented.
Mike McClelland was a clinical psychologist for many years before pursuing a legal carer (as stated in his obituary which can be found online). Apparently he did not get much self insight out of it .
@@ovidiustoica5055 Honestly that's not surprising. Many mentally ill people want to become phycologist themselves because they think that that's going to solve their problems, or some have even worse motives, like wanting to study that field to manipulate others so yeah, I bet he was no different than that.
@@Walczyk Yes, ...but he also killed Mike's wife, an innocent woman...Otherwise yes, the two lawyers got what they deserved.
These two guys Mike and Mark were stupid for more or less egging this guy on and underestimating what he was capable of. However Mike's wife did not deserve to die in this. Eric killed her and Mike put her in danger.
Mike McClelland was a clinical psychologist for many years before pursuing a legal carer (according to his obituary). Apparently he did not get much self insight out of it .
Ted Bundy had a psychology degree.
"Physician heal thyself."
Bryan Kohberger was a PhD candidate.
Excellent-, Dr Grange you always see inside the case. The part about the narcissist not caring who else they destroy was so true. The wives were drawn inside this and one killed and one in prison with a horrible disease. 🤦🏼♀️ crazy people
This all happened for borrowing 3 computer screens? This is so sad and unfair.
I'm sure he never thought taking those screens would result in all this tragedy
I think it was 6, & he was going to resell them.
This story demonstrates how those in power (cops, prosecutors, judges) happily play fast and loose with the law on a daily basis, selectively choosing what to enforce and who to punish based on their own whims.
This is the system working as intended.
I’ve heard this case MANY times but have never heard some of the facts Dr Grande presented. It made a lot more sense now. It’s a very sad and scary case but at least I understand better what was going on. Excellent work, Dr Grande.
Dr. Grande is the only UA-camr whose videos I watch even if I’ve heard the case a million times. I like his perspective.
@@DottieMinerva he so smart
I heard about this from a prime time show years ago. They completely left out the harassment from the DA's office. Still not a justification for homicide, but l thought there might be more to this story. Thanks for sharing the information.
I've seen the same on a lot of "True Crime" shows, often to the point it's obvious they are leaving out a whole lot
I think there is more to the story too. There must be a reason why the DA was upset that Eric supported his opponent in the election. He certainly could not expect everyone to support him so why was he particularly upset that Eric supported his opponent.? I certainly do not think that eliminating someone who is trying to destroy your life because you supported his opponent in an election is a narcissistic reaction. I think it's normal acceptable reaction. It would be cowardice to do otherwise.
I'm glad you analyzed this case. I had watched it on one of the true crime channels. They said alot of negative things about Eric Williams, but made the DA out to be just an innocent man doing his job. IMO, the assistance DA was between a rock and a hard place and the only one who was innocent in this.
In this video, we hear perfect, exhaustive motivation for the murder; like people came out of the woodwork to say how much the DA hated Eric.
I agree the victims didn't get my sympathy
@@meredithisme3752 I don't think they deserved to be murdered, especially the wife.
My guess is that all three were narcissists: the DA, Asst. DA, and Eric. My beliefs follow. The DA had a vendetta against Eric and the Asst. DA knew it and was happy to go after Eric as hard as the DA wished (like a pitbull going after someone on behalf of its master). The Asst. DA is no angel. They both pursued Eric, going after his livelihood, reputation, and everything else that gave Eric any sense of worth to the public...essentially maliciously destroying his persona. Eric snapped at feeling targeted and exacted his murderous revenge.
@@elmtree33 I agree
Honestly, they mistreated that man until he snapped. They took everything from him so he decided to do the same to his aggressors. This was sad all the way around. This shows how dangerous the human mind can be!
I remember this. He was good at fixing computer problems and even though it was outside his job description was the go to guy for this. He maintained, and many believed, that he removed the computers to work on them. He had supported a different candidate than the people in power and they took this as an opportunity to get him. And then, he got them per Dr Grandes personality analysis of them all. I seem to remember a film of him with an uncontrolled smile while being interviewed on TV about the murders before he was charged.
I'm remembering more. There was a procedure to sign out, log the removal, of computers and this time he just removed them. And his political enemies pounced.
I've known of this case for a few years, thanks for giving more to the backstory, Dr Grande.
Great analysis. I enjoyed how you related the facts of the case into a compelling narrative. Good work, Dr Grande. ✌️❤️🌵
Forgot there was a communal narcissist also. Another story of vindictiveness & ego leading to murder. Great points esp about people's views on narcissism. Thanks Dr G😊💌💌
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Very interesting and very well-written and presented too. Thank you for setting out both the facts and your analysis clearly and concisely, without any of the usual social-media hooting and posing. Most enjoyable and understandable!
Thorough! Having been a therapist at a state hospital for many years these folks and their behaviors can be difficult to unravel. Your take on these messy and complicated cases is very interesting indeed. (What's with all the cacti 🙂
20:14 20:14 i was also wondering about the cacti .
Outsanding case analysis. Absolutely appreciate how you dissect the personality nuances that informs the behaviors of those involved. If you ever consider teaching a course, I would sign up.
Do you answer questions on your Patreon?
I like hearing Dr. Grande's analyses. You might also enjoy the True Crime Rocket Science channel. Some good analyses there as well.
@@cbesthelper404 Peace to you. Thanks, I'll check it out.
Eric had Narcissistic and sociopathic tendencies. The fact he would risk these low level thefts up against his career is beyond me
He was driven by his ego.
A lot of crazy murderers I see on Dateline and other true crime shows are narcissist/ and or sociopaths.
Winona Ryder comes to mind, she used to shoplift things worth under $20 just for kicks.
Easy to understand if you listen to the analysis and understand narcissistic people.
Tunnel vision.
An impeccable and impartial analysis. Thank you.
Thank you Dr Grande for covering this case. I’ve watched several videos about it but you have shed more light on the motives of the other parties involved than anyone else has. Well done sir
Very educational. Thank you Dr. Grande.
Hollywood couldn't write a story crazier than this. I was surprised to hear more facts about what the victims did to the killer before the crime.
Forgiveness is usually better, you can move on without looking over your shoulder.
Revenge is best of all.
When I tried to forgive, there was always a feeling of emptiness and unfulfillment. But revenge is always gratifying and stress relieving.
@@Thomas-yw9eo while i praise you for your honesty i do not praise you for the egotistical conclusion you've arrived at. don't feed your reptilian brain, transcend your primal instincts big dog, it's a much better way to be
Forgiveness is weakness and only for the poor and powerless.
You think the state will ever forgive you for any breaking of law?
You should never forgive public officials even the smallest of slights, as the same people would put you in jail for life the moment the law allows it.
@Pat Luxor I didn’t harm anyone the Covidiot criminals KILLED people. If you want to forgive them do it but don’t tell other people they should. Typical authoritian no wonder you defend them.
Just waking up from fibro flares and found Dr. Grande posted. What a great morning, thanks Doc. 💕
This whole thing sounds like a early 90s movie that my parents would watch😅 geez wow.. crazy stuff
Truth is stranger than fiction 😮 thank you for laying out that complex saga in a way we can better understand the collision of so many egos. Extraordinary and mind boggling that they were all able to do what they did.
"Almost like he wanted to be caught."
Yes, it was arrogance. I think he wanted to send a message that he could do whatever he wanted. He took pleasure in strutting due to his oversized ego.
That’s not what the person who experienced it said. That’s what you wish he said to fit a story you already wrote in your mind, that won’t budge based on evidence or testimony. You should be a lawyer too
Dr G.... Congratulations!! I'm so proud of you. I saw a Law and Crime show with Jesse Weber and you were a consultant. You looked great, you're so learned, you have pith and moment and your charisma was on full display. It is my prediction that that show is the first on a yellow brick road where opportunity abounds. They are lucky to have you. I have been watching you for a long, long time and you are still an important part of my daily routine. Thank you for being here. ❤️🥳☺️❤️
Yes - I saw that same video and the Dr.'s presentation was very very impressive. 👏👏
Which video was it?
@@KD_55 I want to know too.
@@KD_55 It was the Celebration Florida Murders. The Anthony Today family annihilation. He was great. You're gonna love it. It's on the Law and Crime channel I think but you can find it probably just by the keywords. It's very recent too. 😀
I don't condone what Eric did, but I understand, and even sympathize.
He was pushed too far!
Suspect and victim seemed to be mirror images of each other. Their hate and animosity, paranoia and vindictiveness seemed to feed off each other.
When I first heard about this story, the media completely ignored the campaign these two prosectors waged against this man. They pained Eric as an entitled pos and the prosecutors as innocent do-gooders. I was bamboozled I’m afraid. Amazing how the real story comes out when you get to the bottom of things.
Eric was a POS tho.
I have no sympathy for anyone in this.
Wow. Wow. The Universe steered me away from a narcissist slowly, but surely there was a divine intervention for which I shall be forever thankful. I did see just some personality characteristics that I thought were not - pleasant . Didn't know very much at all about narcissism until God put my Google finger on my keyboard and ....the dangerous side of narcissism is rarely actually discussed so thank you for this video and for your affirmation of my "gut feelings." Never heard of communal narcissism......just WOW. I like you more everytime I watch you. Thank you for being here, available for those of us who would not access the warnings in the knowledge that you provide us. 🌹
I just got my copy of "Harm Reduction"... I will randomly comment on a future video regarding my experience. I am excited about it. Cheers Doc!
Your voice is so calming! I often listen to your videos while sleeping lol
Brilliant! You nailed it.
I've dealt with people that try and destroy reputations. No room in this world for them
So do I get this right that this sh1t just began due to two power obsessed, narcissistic political rivals? 🤔
OMG, the poor people around them... I am especially as an apolitical person glad that you wonderfully analyzed with those 6 items that politics obsessed people need to be avoided, hahaha. Thank you for making my morning so challenging, dear Dr. Grande❣️Wish you, your beloved ones, and your audience a wonderful day from here❣️🌄💕
Thank you. I hope your day is wonderful, today.
That first sentence though 👌 Unfortunately, I also feel it has been used in so many, frivolous, trivial scenarios in law than just this one.
Free show cat killer .
Mensa is often misunderstood. It is an organization for highly intelligent people who seek peers who share their interests. it often attracts people who are socially akward because they were not understood by their peers when they were growing up, not sharing intersts they felt isolated. its difficult to develop social skills in isolation.
Fascinating case. Dr. Grande, thank you finding these old cases that demonstrate serious mental problems that lead to serious crimes.
You. Talk. So slowly but I enjoy your channel and you make sure everyone understands everything. So it's a good thing.
Eric enjoyed shooting cats?! That’s a huge red flag! Sometimes I do wonder if narcissism is a common trait among those in MENSA. It seems that narcissism brings out the narcissism in others and blind spots. Great presentation as always! Thanks, Dr. Grande
Brilliant analysis as always. The content you upload never fails to make my day. Thank you Dr. Brilliant analysis , tragic outcome and informative
Brilliant again Dr. Grande Your narrative is so clear, captivating and gentle.
The book about this story, In Plain Sight: The Kaufman County Prosecutor Murders by author Kathryn Casey is really interesting!
Thanks for that information. I knew nothing about this case.
Thanks for the recommendation 💯
One of the best presentations yet. The narcissism dynamo at it's worst.
Eric was pissed! "How dare they treat me like a ......."
Truly one of the best, if not the best, of Dr. Grande's analyses so far. I've had to deal with these personalities and scenarios in my own life. Several of the points in this video hit a chord (including how others view Mensa membership... I've wondered this before).
Dateline presents a biased perspective on this case. I had no idea what the full story was. Thanks for providing a complete picture of this case.
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Love Dr.G analysis.
Eric was a loof!
Love the cadence of the consonation at the conclusion it was no cacophany!
Thanks mate, your video certainly gave me a much wider appreciation of the details of this case which are usually overlooked in other presentations.
I was familiar with this case from watching a television program. This TV show didn't cover the personal animosity between the Michael and Eric. As usual your analysis you excellent.
2 narcissist's ended up destroying each other.
Excellent analysis doc as always! I always appreciate your great research and high intelligence. 🙌
Wow - what a cautionary tale about the extreme danger of narcissists colliding.
Wow, it’s amazing when you hear the back story, thanks so much for the enlightenment, I feel a bit sorry for Erik now, the murders certainly aren’t justified but desperate people do desperate things…..
Thank you for covering this case. I seen it before on other channels and I remember when they sentenced him for the stolen monitors. Michael stared belittle him. How he was a menace to society. That’s when I though ok this is definitely not about monitors
Thank you for the fair and balanced information concerning this case. I recently saw a version of this on a true crime show but it left out a substantial part of the story. There was nothing about Mr. McClelland's malicious prosecution and smear campaign or how the legal community felt about his over zealous behaviour. Excellent analysis!
What is odd to me about this case is all this death and destruction is over three computer monitors. We have a thrift store near me that sells them all the time for ten bucks (yes they are nice flatscreen monitors). I get them all the time for free from apartment and house cleanouts after renters move and leave things behind. Why would he take computer monitors when cameras would record him walking out with them? This whole case is so odd.
He probably thought it was not a big deal since he worked there and a judge. The monitors probably laying around not in used. Pepple probably borrow or take stuff home all time.Have you seen the video he walked out with the monitors? He looked normal like he s not stealing anything. They hated him so they went after him for stealing. He was planning more killing after Mike but he got caught. His wife testified he had 3 more on his list, a judge and 2 more lawyers. They didnt know it was him until his friend called the police that Eric asked him to rent a warehouse for him. His friend didn't know anything.
People make accusations that ruin a person's life on little or NO PROOF or twist innocent behavior into a law breaking offense. Its easy to do. People at work do things without thought at times that can be twisted . These accusers usually get off Scott free. That is so bad and life altering . Some cant get over these injustices.
@@margaretfrazier181 The Democrat Party has done that to Trump, his family, his advisors, his cabinet and many supporters (1000 now for protesting and being angry- new Fed laws apparently) They have stolen law licenses from Giuliana who singlehandedly haled New York City of crime in the 1990s and other excellent people whom they hate because they lost an election in 2016.
To show that he could. His actions all demonstrate how superior he thought of himself.
It s not over computer. Mike hated Eric. He didnt want Eric working there. He
took that opportunity Eric made a mistake to destroyed him.
In a simuIar case I know somebody who stole many documents when they left their job in the federal government. We was asked to return them, but his ego did not allow him to admit he took them. So his house was raided and they were found. He still does not understand he did anything wrong. Nor does his supporters......
Harris voter😂
@@seniormale just a patriot
Amazing that these are grown, educated adults. Smh.
Narcissist VS. Narcissist
Narcissist has now become an idiosyncratic buzzword that gets thrown around a lot.
I remember this case thanks for bringing it back to my attention. Perfect analysis as always.
So interesting. I have not heard of this case. Thank you for the video.
Dr G. Excellent 👌 reviews, rather objective and cold, as it should be with "everyone is innocent till proven.." thanks for your analysis!
After listening to this I am convinced there are elements to this case that may have influenced story and plot lines in "Better Call Saul".