Amazing lecture. James and Williams have influenced many authors in Brazil, such as Florestan Fernandes, one of the most important sociologists in my country.
Astounding that 2 such extraordinary intellects would have arisen from a small population as Trinidad, in the same era and from the same educational institutions (QRC and Oxford), which have a British foundation. What does this suggest might still be the potential of the British in wielding INTELLECTUAL power to genuinely elevate people and administer more genuinely the process of reparations?
@@edensdoor9592That's a ridiculous revisionist take. Jeepers Creepers you could say the same thing about Oleudah Equinox, which is criminally ignorant.
I'm not looking for no non blacks to feel guilty. It's funny how his whole speech is based off of white people (or he himself) should not feel guilty for slavery; and to add to that. "Look black people we help end slavery or we were a part of ending it". Not so dude. The only reason why they switched up was because the market had slowed up and it was time for a new frontier. Slavery was dangerous and if one wants to take advantage of another, one must look for or create justification to do so. Slave masters constantly had to watch their back. I could go on and on. Anybody reading this post should get the book "When We Ruled" by Robin Walker. On the African continent alone they speak more than 2000 languages. People can only take advantage of us when we are not united.
I like the lecture who admitted that our ancestors did not all just set around to wait for good white men from England to abolish slavery it was mostly slave rebellion on the plantation and I like Eric William book Capitalism & Slavery which the British industrial system get there profit from the wealth from slavery.
In 1834, the British government outlawed slavery in most of its possession, "though not in its Asian colonies such as British India and what would become Sri Lanka. The British government also paid 20 million pounds - the equivalent of around 17 billion pounds today - to compensate slave owners for the lost capital associated with freeing slaves. This payout was a massive 40% of the government's budget and required many bonds to slave owners to effectuate the law. These obligations to slave owners and institutions are the debts that were paid off by the UK government only in 2015." USA Today, 6/30/2020, "Fact check: United Kingdom finished paying off debts to slave-owning families in 2015"
This idea that slavery was economically inferior to a free labor force is also an idea pushed by Milton Friedman, and much of those who studied under the Von Mises Institute. I've also heard notions that much of the American Civil War was actually sparked by this realization, that is, the Northern businessmen, being hungry for more capital, saw that the South was holding them back financially. The south's profits at the time were far smaller than compared to the North, but as noted by Alexis De Tocqueville at the time, the South was much more cultured and seemed to enjoy an "easy & peaceful living". Unfortunately, an easy and peaceful living isn't very conducive to creating a population that constantly consumes, thus spends money, thus puts more capital back in the hands of those rich few. So I mean...it's absolutely possible that all this is true. The possibility of it being True lies within how very reasonable a lot of the arguments can be for it. The problem, I find, is that people, especially Americans, are unwilling to admit that money has such a great driving force in society and the development of humanity. Not to mention there's a great deal of self-congratulations that White Americans feel for pushing this idea of a Moral War, i.e. the war against slavery. At the very least, it's something to think about ^^
Yes the civil war was about money and profit. The minute the North won, they forgot about the rights of the newly 'freed' men and proceeded to ramp up American Industrialism-to catch up with, and ultimately surpass, British industrialism.
@@tangabiang5282 The problem with finding this stuff out about the past is that it *ALL* Hinges on Who You Ask lol It's very similar with Feminism and how it paints a large number of "Husbands" from the past as abusive, but.....what about the husbands that actually loved their wives.... Just like, why CANT I believe that some slave owners actually cared for their slaves? Because I'm white? 😂
I don’t think it is an either-or scenario. It is most certainly true that money played a role in the resolution of the Civil War … BUT, it was also about the immorality of slavery. Businessmen are usually about “the business” so once the war was done, I would expect nothing less than them returning to making money. Sadly, I Timothy 6:10 (“For the love of money is the root of all kinds of evil.”) speaks loudly when we make money our god.
What never cease to amaze me is how black people of Caribbean enslaved descent always seem so shocked but grateful to learn different a different take on their own history from some white englishman. But never seem able to understand that what they are saying is that it (history) is all about the money. Hence, as a class of people, they can use the information to bring legal action against England's government in the English courts, or the ICJ, for the economic loss to the descendants of enslaved people, caused by the murder of our enslaved ancestors for England's economic benefit. The fact that actual tracing of the source of England's wealth is now done as well as the fact that murder cannot be statute barred, can give such an action a real prospect of success. Thereby obtaining an assessment of damages akin to reparations.
Comment by odw on July 20, 2015 at 5:28am In this engaging lecture with author James Heartfield filmed by WORLDbytes volunteers, we learn why Eric Williams & C.L.R. James critical understanding of the history of slavery’s abolition was right, and in its day considered shocking. British parliamentarians, anti-slavery campaigners and do-gooders from Buxton to Wilberforce were certainly not the key drivers of slavery’s demise. As Williams argued, abolition made economic sense. C.L.R James was no fan of reparations either, and we learn that three historic attempts at compensation were a complete disaster and they always will be Heartfield argues. Like ‘apologies’, reparations always maintain power relations, the authority and moral superiority of the giver over the recipient. The contemporary ‘feeling guilty about slavery’ fad Heartfield explains is degrading too and nothing more than self-indulgent narcissism, it doesn’t fix anything and fails to deal with the present entirely
They had us in slavery and don't want to pay reparations saying we not slaves today and talk about how they work hard some families were poor at least they got pay we was working for free
This argument sounds plausible, however the British squadron also operated off the East Coast of Africa to stop the slave trade to India and the Middle East, a practice that been going on since the rise of Islam in the 600’s. What of that? Was that all for cynical economic reasons too?
I have 2 scrap books with CLR James handwritten letters, letters from priministers, publishing and newspapers clips. About 100yrs old. Who would be intrested in these? Thank you
Everyone seems to think that the slave trade was a one off thing. It most certainly wasn't. Slavery is evil, certainly, but through most of human history, slavery was not questioned. Why did Wilberforce and the rest suddenly decide that slavery was wrong?
Ian Williams Wilberforce had seen it first hand and it shaped his impression. After Haiti's revolution, Parliament was more open to hear what Wilberforce had been saying for years
During the 18th century, news of cruelty towards slaves on the sugar plantations circulated in England. The reaction in England was disgust. If you read 18th-century English literature regarding West Indian planters; you will see how English authors and intellectuals portrayed them in negative ways.
“ we can’t live in the past “. D’accord ! That’ the stumbling block with Caribbean people in the 21st century - not wanting to take responsibility for these own actions The past should Never ,Ever , be forgotten or attempts made to obliterate it but we have to live in Now .Historical facts are easy enough to read but the residual emotion must be acknowledged Perhaps after each history class a psychotherapy group could help students explore same
Reparations now...is not leaving in the past...it's a possible way to improve Black people lives HERE AND NOW...for a brighter future...it would dampen racism and make whole society feel guilty about past and CURRENT EFFECT OF PAST AND ACTUAL INJUSTICES...and help to improve live standard which is so low and represents feeding stuff for racism by providing a miserable idea and conception of Black people...enjoying low living standards...We have to run a race for social equality were on the starting blocks Black racers have old cars and other have brand new and more powerful cars! Is this serious, to say let us look for more economic opportunities, don't ask for reparations anymore?
I'm a proud Trinidadian! Proud of Dr Eric Williams! I must say I can't really listen to this guy. He sounds like he grew up with Barbara Cartland, writing his lecture! Smile 😃
This guy is stelling people he wants to be proud about his British ancestors involved in slavery and he doesn't want ti feel guilty...which is a requirement fir the society as a whole to accept the idea of reparations as a tool of social and economic reparations...To him it is leaving in the past...so why not fixing the social inequalty ( linked to the past and the moral conditions of abolition) now? Does he stand for? How to fight for freedom and equality now with no reference to actual economic ajustment of past injustices? It is not acceptable! Not a single British should be proud less a serious move made towards reparations.. It's major moral issue! And still no plain pride should stand untill the wounds of social injustice, racial exploitation and racism are healed..This migjt take tens of years and more...
It came from ROBBERY of other countries, particular slavery and colonialism of Africa and the west indies, which was piled up into an empire of wealth and turned into an industry, which financed the industrial revolution and banking.
2 And this sublime doctrine is unavoidable even for very minor sins, that is to say, involuntary or by mistake. For example, if someone asks you for some money and you give it to him without any question and he goes to play lottery, buy cigarettes, buy some alcoholic drink ... or if you murmur or sing a pagan song by mistake... you are guilty. If you associate, even for one second, with a person of these Catholic, Protestant, evangelical and Branhamist churches, including Islam and Judaism or those missions and ministries to pray, you are guilty, just like the one who consults a diviner or fetish priest. If you are somewhere without a Bible and there is a Louis Segond or Scofield or Thompson or King James version, you shall look on that as a trap of Satan. 3 You cannot use street words or expressions. And neither for a dead person nor for a party, or a wedding, for nothing… shall you enter any of these churches, their vigils or their prayer cells. If you sin slightly in words with someone you knew to be a mocker or a gossip, it is a sin similar to one who goes into the house of a prostitute. These are sins to which we must be confronted, for at the point where we are now, whoever indulges even once in masturbation, lies, fornication, politics, adultery, or who does not pay the tithes and offerings ... is for us a redoubtable enemy and the subject of our troubles, he is like a leper in the camp of Israel. 4 But know that if someone torments us like Achan or unworthily follows this Message, he is under the curse of 1 Corinthians 11:27-30. If you are sitting there with some sins and people are confessing around you and that does not tell you anything, know at least that you will be filled with demons and with curses. Know that you came into the house of God just to return from it cursed rather than being blessed. Beware because sin is not a second nature for the sons of God and God said to Moses: "Those who have tempted me ten times will not enter into the promised land." Every time you sit there with some unconfessed sins in your heart, this goes up before God in the Heaven. [Ed: The congregation says, “Amen!”]. [Kc.18v1] 5 Likewise, you cannot confess with a smile on your lips. And you must take off your suit jacket before you confess. The public confession must not be some preaching, a testimony, a settling of accounts or a justification, but the confession with regret. Also avoid details except if the congregation asks for them. If you have sinned against someone and he still speaks of it, even if it was prior to the baptism, confess it to him then before the congregation. You see?
Brilliant lecture. That story about Sturge's late night parliamentary trick or 'conspiracy' in 1838 is wonderful, but I'm failing to find any sources/further reading related to that exact story. I hope it's not an embellished over-simplification as it's such a great tale. If anyone reading this knows about when exactly this story recounted here took place please let me know! I'd love to find the record of it in Hansard.
Incredible historical analysis. Love how this guy doesn't take any of Britain's justifications at face value, instead looks at the material facts and draws conclusions about motivation afterwards. Makes conservative historians look like the clowns they are
All this was good business,because they already had a plan in India for another type of slavery Indentured Labourers the proof is out there Surinam,Guyana,Trinidad,Grenada,St Vincent,St Lucia,Martinique,Gadoulope,Jamica,Belize,Hunduras,Mauritius,Seychilles,Fiji,etc,etc,therefore they have to pay reparation there was no benevolent reason.
Reparations----economics ------greed. The captivity of YAHCOB will never be compensated these are the words of YAHSHUAH HA MOSCIAH,the bible.The confessions of atrocities towards the jewelry of god is accepted!
Dr. the Right Honourable Eric Williams......the man is a god in Trinidad and Tobago, renowned for his scholarship, birthing of the Nation and the economic and social stewardship of a young virgining Nation
They did fall out BIG TIME. Both geniuses though. They are the cornerstones of the intellectual work of Trinidad and Tobago and the Caribbean at large. They are among a generation of unbelievably good Caribbean authors such as VS Reid of Jamaica, Aimee Cesaire of Martinique, Nicolas Guillen of Cuba among others
21:00 Lord Palmerston on armed ships in Atlantic by 1865. Dropped off in Sierra Leone or Cuba british went indies sugar plantations. Intercepted and Dropped off on coast
He didn't provide figures about the money from slavery that supposedly funded industrialization let alone sources. He is being very selective about the starting point of economic history. Did the money that built the ships that moved the slaves to the Caribbean come from slavery? Did the money that built the plantations come from slavery? Did the money that made the goods that were exchanged for slaves in the first place come from slavery? Industrial advance began before slavery and was held back by slavery. Sugar, tobacco and rum weren't beneficial to Britain morally, healthily or economically.
Amazing lecture. James and Williams have influenced many authors in Brazil, such as Florestan Fernandes, one of the most important sociologists in my country.
Astounding that 2 such extraordinary intellects would have arisen from a small population as Trinidad, in the same era and from the same educational institutions (QRC and Oxford), which have a British foundation. What does this suggest might still be the potential of the British in wielding INTELLECTUAL power to genuinely elevate people and administer more genuinely the process of reparations?
@@edensdoor9592That's a ridiculous revisionist take. Jeepers Creepers you could say the same thing about Oleudah Equinox, which is criminally ignorant.
I'm not looking for no non blacks to feel guilty. It's funny how his whole speech is based off of white people (or he himself) should not feel guilty for slavery; and to add to that. "Look black people we help end slavery or we were a part of ending it". Not so dude. The only reason why they switched up was because the market had slowed up and it was time for a new frontier. Slavery was dangerous and if one wants to take advantage of another, one must look for or create justification to do so. Slave masters constantly had to watch their back. I could go on and on. Anybody reading this post should get the book "When We Ruled" by Robin Walker. On the African continent alone they speak more than 2000 languages. People can only take advantage of us when we are not united.
*Wa'Sat* I agree.
@Shady Queens Read again
I like the lecture who admitted that our ancestors did not all just set around to wait for good white men from England to abolish slavery it was mostly slave rebellion on the plantation and I like Eric William book Capitalism & Slavery which the British industrial system get there profit from the wealth from slavery.
Please, what is the name of the speaker?
I am so very happy I found this clip. I was just telling my cousin about these two men. They are from my homeland Trinidad and Tobago.🇹🇹🇹🇹👍👍
You should also read the book "Capitalism and Slavery" by Eric Williams
I did read it many years ago. It was a very laden with a the economics of the slave trade. I have also read some of his other books.♥️♥️
In 1834, the British government outlawed slavery in most of its possession, "though not in its Asian colonies such as British India and what would become Sri Lanka. The British government also paid 20 million pounds - the equivalent of around 17 billion pounds today - to compensate slave owners for the lost capital associated with freeing slaves. This payout was a massive 40% of the government's budget and required many bonds to slave owners to effectuate the law. These obligations to slave owners and institutions are the debts that were paid off by the UK government only in 2015." USA Today, 6/30/2020, "Fact check: United Kingdom finished paying off debts to slave-owning families in 2015"
GREAT BOOK / BLACK JACOBINS PEOPLE FOUGHT FOR THEIR FREEDOM
Haitians
@@labelle8110 35:00 I thought economics was a branch of moral philosophy
Plantations estates ? Industry abandoned?
i am a Trinidadian, and this was most fascinating educational wise.
This idea that slavery was economically inferior to a free labor force is also an idea pushed by Milton Friedman, and much of those who studied under the Von Mises Institute. I've also heard notions that much of the American Civil War was actually sparked by this realization, that is, the Northern businessmen, being hungry for more capital, saw that the South was holding them back financially. The south's profits at the time were far smaller than compared to the North, but as noted by Alexis De Tocqueville at the time, the South was much more cultured and seemed to enjoy an "easy & peaceful living". Unfortunately, an easy and peaceful living isn't very conducive to creating a population that constantly consumes, thus spends money, thus puts more capital back in the hands of those rich few.
So I mean...it's absolutely possible that all this is true. The possibility of it being True lies within how very reasonable a lot of the arguments can be for it. The problem, I find, is that people, especially Americans, are unwilling to admit that money has such a great driving force in society and the development of humanity. Not to mention there's a great deal of self-congratulations that White Americans feel for pushing this idea of a Moral War, i.e. the war against slavery. At the very least, it's something to think about ^^
Yes the civil war was about money and profit. The minute the North won, they forgot about the rights of the newly 'freed' men and proceeded to ramp up American Industrialism-to catch up with, and ultimately surpass, British industrialism.
There surely was a lot of terror on Blacks in the South...No actual peace and easy life in some way
@@tangabiang5282 The problem with finding this stuff out about the past is that it *ALL* Hinges on Who You Ask lol
It's very similar with Feminism and how it paints a large number of "Husbands" from the past as abusive, but.....what about the husbands that actually loved their wives....
Just like, why CANT I believe that some slave owners actually cared for their slaves?
Because I'm white? 😂
Black Americans and Cotton were the most lucrative financial trade "goods" in the United States from 1800-1860.
I don’t think it is an either-or scenario. It is most certainly true that money played a role in the resolution of the Civil War … BUT, it was also about the immorality of slavery. Businessmen are usually about “the business” so once the war was done, I would expect nothing less than them returning to making money. Sadly, I Timothy 6:10 (“For the love of money is the root of all kinds of evil.”) speaks loudly when we make money our god.
What never cease to amaze me is how black people of Caribbean enslaved descent always seem so shocked but grateful to learn different a different take on their own history from some white englishman. But never seem able to understand that what they are saying is that it (history) is all about the money. Hence, as a class of people, they can use the information to bring legal action against England's government in the English courts, or the ICJ, for the economic loss to the descendants of enslaved people, caused by the murder of our enslaved ancestors for England's economic benefit. The fact that actual tracing of the source of England's wealth is now done as well as the fact that murder cannot be statute barred, can give such an action a real prospect of success. Thereby obtaining an assessment of damages akin to reparations.
Please what is the name at 34:00
Thank you for this comment
minus the sheer amount of camera angle changing this was very awesome to listen to. slavery was never abolished just changed form over centuries.
15:00 reparations talk begins here
My GOD! I, an expat by way of America, currently reside in Trinidad and I am so proud of the legacy here!
09:30 please who?
This is video is absolutely spectacular. I am learning so much. The history that is never thought in school
Comment by odw on July 20, 2015 at 5:28am
In this engaging lecture with author James Heartfield filmed by WORLDbytes volunteers, we learn why Eric Williams & C.L.R. James critical understanding of the history of slavery’s abolition was right, and in its day considered shocking. British parliamentarians, anti-slavery campaigners and do-gooders from Buxton to Wilberforce were certainly not the key drivers of slavery’s demise. As Williams argued, abolition made economic sense. C.L.R James was no fan of reparations either, and we learn that three historic attempts at compensation were a complete disaster and they always will be Heartfield argues. Like ‘apologies’, reparations always maintain power relations, the authority and moral superiority of the giver over the recipient. The contemporary ‘feeling guilty about slavery’ fad Heartfield explains is degrading too and nothing more than self-indulgent narcissism, it doesn’t fix anything and fails to deal with the present entirely
They had us in slavery and don't want to pay reparations saying we not slaves today and talk about how they work hard some families were poor at least they got pay we was working for free
He’s a piece of work
Is time to receive reparation from five century of slavery
Thanks for this, will share it around.
11:00 Catherine Hall? I thought Tombs challenged this despite Barclays Quakers who traded
God bless Dr. Eric Williams
No apologies without REPARATIONS.
why was Maurice Bishop not included in the discussion?
eh ?
so why were they right can some say
Dr Eric William the first Primw minister of TnT and gained Independence in 1962 for his country!
The second reparations’ attempt, that was just cold..
You should read Edward E Baptist.
the plantation owners never legally own the land or the people. Morally
Today, I went to a library browsing among the books and William’s caught my eyes. I bought it and now watch this lecture.
This argument sounds plausible, however the British squadron also operated off the East Coast of Africa to stop the slave trade to India and the Middle East, a practice that been going on since the rise of Islam in the 600’s. What of that? Was that all for cynical economic reasons too?
39:45 John Scoble? Prove he was racist ? And where is this commonwealth museum?
I have 2 scrap books with CLR James handwritten letters, letters from priministers, publishing and newspapers clips. About 100yrs old.
Who would be intrested in these?
Thank you
Me, if you're giving them away; would be invaluable to my political education and that of my contemporaries.
I would be very interested
Everyone seems to think that the slave trade was a one off thing. It most certainly wasn't. Slavery is evil, certainly, but through most of human history, slavery was not questioned. Why did Wilberforce and the rest suddenly decide that slavery was wrong?
Ian Williams Wilberforce had seen it first hand and it shaped his impression.
After Haiti's revolution, Parliament was more open to hear what Wilberforce had been saying for years
During the 18th century, news of cruelty towards slaves on the sugar plantations circulated in England. The reaction in England was disgust. If you read 18th-century English literature regarding West Indian planters; you will see how English authors and intellectuals portrayed them in negative ways.
The "Abolitionists" were financed by the Industrialists
@@ancientneet 37:30 what are the names of these scholars ?
“ we can’t live in the past “. D’accord ! That’ the stumbling block with Caribbean people in the 21st century - not wanting to take responsibility for these own actions The past should Never ,Ever , be forgotten or attempts made to obliterate it but we have to live in Now .Historical facts are easy enough to read but the residual emotion must be acknowledged Perhaps after each history class a psychotherapy group could help students explore same
How are Caribbean people living in the past? 🤔
Reparations now...is not leaving in the past...it's a possible way to improve Black people lives HERE AND NOW...for a brighter future...it would dampen racism and make whole society feel guilty about past and CURRENT EFFECT OF PAST AND ACTUAL INJUSTICES...and help to improve live standard which is so low and represents feeding stuff for racism by providing a miserable idea and conception of Black people...enjoying low living standards...We have to run a race for social equality were on the starting blocks Black racers have old cars and other have brand new and more powerful cars! Is this serious, to say let us look for more economic opportunities, don't ask for reparations anymore?
ISNT AMOCO still drilling g oil in Trinidad
45:15 James Stevens an admiralty lawyer
Why are we debating slavery...
Not 'stealing'...'buying', which he well knows is the case!
Long live Nat Turner
I'm a proud Trinidadian!
Proud of Dr Eric Williams!
I must say I can't really listen to this guy.
He sounds like he grew up with Barbara Cartland, writing his lecture! Smile 😃
where did the gold come from? mexico and peru
This guy is stelling people he wants to be proud about his British ancestors involved in slavery and he doesn't want ti feel guilty...which is a requirement fir the society as a whole to accept the idea of reparations as a tool of social and economic reparations...To him it is leaving in the past...so why not fixing the social inequalty ( linked to the past and the moral conditions of abolition) now? Does he stand for? How to fight for freedom and equality now with no reference to actual economic ajustment of past injustices? It is not acceptable! Not a single British should be proud less a serious move made towards reparations..
It's major moral issue! And still no plain pride should stand untill the wounds of social injustice, racial exploitation and racism are healed..This migjt take tens of years and more...
47:30 this one was in the book pro slavery
Refreshing!!
BIG UP RERSPECT !!
24:30 had a reason to keep it in sea
wine anyone ?
50:00 "guilt never helps anyone"
History can be a cruel joke.
39:00 who is Joseph Sturge ?
British apologist....where did the wealth come from to explore other lands....or for that matter to go to the moon
It came from ROBBERY of other countries, particular slavery and colonialism of Africa and the west indies, which was piled up into an empire of wealth and turned into an industry, which financed the industrial revolution and banking.
Swansong?
His dismissal of guilt with freudiana fig leaf speaks volumes
2 And this sublime doctrine is unavoidable even for very minor sins, that is to say, involuntary or by mistake. For example, if someone asks you for some money and you give it to him without any question and he goes to play lottery, buy cigarettes, buy some alcoholic drink ... or if you murmur or sing a pagan song by mistake... you are guilty. If you associate, even for one second, with a person of these Catholic, Protestant, evangelical and Branhamist churches, including Islam and Judaism or those missions and ministries to pray, you are guilty, just like the one who consults a diviner or fetish priest. If you are somewhere without a Bible and there is a Louis Segond or Scofield or Thompson or King James version, you shall look on that as a trap of Satan.
3 You cannot use street words or expressions. And neither for a dead person nor for a party, or a wedding, for nothing… shall you enter any of these churches, their vigils or their prayer cells. If you sin slightly in words with someone you knew to be a mocker or a gossip, it is a sin similar to one who goes into the house of a prostitute. These are sins to which we must be confronted, for at the point where we are now, whoever indulges even once in masturbation, lies, fornication, politics, adultery, or who does not pay the tithes and offerings ... is for us a redoubtable enemy and the subject of our troubles, he is like a leper in the camp of Israel.
4 But know that if someone torments us like Achan or unworthily follows this Message, he is under the curse of 1 Corinthians 11:27-30. If you are sitting there with some sins and people are confessing around you and that does not tell you anything, know at least that you will be filled with demons and with curses. Know that you came into the house of God just to return from it cursed rather than being blessed. Beware because sin is not a second nature for the sons of God and God said to Moses: "Those who have tempted me ten times will not enter into the promised land." Every time you sit there with some unconfessed sins in your heart, this goes up before God in the Heaven. [Ed: The congregation says, “Amen!”]. [Kc.18v1]
5 Likewise, you cannot confess with a smile on your lips. And you must take off your suit jacket before you confess. The public confession must not be some preaching, a testimony, a settling of accounts or a justification, but the confession with regret. Also avoid details except if the congregation asks for them. If you have sinned against someone and he still speaks of it, even if it was prior to the baptism, confess it to him then before the congregation. You see?
Brilliant lecture.
That story about Sturge's late night parliamentary trick or 'conspiracy' in 1838 is wonderful, but I'm failing to find any sources/further reading related to that exact story. I hope it's not an embellished over-simplification as it's such a great tale. If anyone reading this knows about when exactly this story recounted here took place please let me know! I'd love to find the record of it in Hansard.
Not that brilliant...fighting the idea of reparations...with superficial arguments!
Incredible historical analysis. Love how this guy doesn't take any of Britain's justifications at face value, instead looks at the material facts and draws conclusions about motivation afterwards. Makes conservative historians look like the clowns they are
All this was good business,because they already had a plan in India for another type of slavery Indentured Labourers the proof is out there Surinam,Guyana,Trinidad,Grenada,St Vincent,St Lucia,Martinique,Gadoulope,Jamica,Belize,Hunduras,Mauritius,Seychilles,Fiji,etc,etc,therefore they have to pay reparation there was no benevolent reason.
Williams was the best Prime Minister of Trinidad and Tobago
Reparations----economics ------greed. The captivity of YAHCOB will never be compensated these are the words of YAHSHUAH HA MOSCIAH,the bible.The confessions of atrocities towards the jewelry of god is accepted!
And WELL'WELL in just about 54:13 minutes of this book information and this was uploaded back in 2015
# family
Dr. the Right Honourable Eric Williams......the man is a god in Trinidad and Tobago, renowned for his scholarship, birthing of the Nation and the economic and social stewardship of a young virgining Nation
This is rubbish. When the oppressor talk about the their oppression.
They did fall out BIG TIME. Both geniuses though. They are the cornerstones of the intellectual work of Trinidad and Tobago and the Caribbean at large. They are among a generation of unbelievably good Caribbean authors such as VS Reid of Jamaica, Aimee Cesaire of Martinique, Nicolas Guillen of Cuba among others
21:00 Lord Palmerston on armed ships in Atlantic by 1865. Dropped off in Sierra Leone or Cuba british went indies sugar plantations. Intercepted and Dropped off on coast
He didn't provide figures about the money from slavery that supposedly funded industrialization let alone sources. He is being very selective about the starting point of economic history. Did the money that built the ships that moved the slaves to the Caribbean come from slavery? Did the money that built the plantations come from slavery? Did the money that made the goods that were exchanged for slaves in the first place come from slavery? Industrial advance began before slavery and was held back by slavery. Sugar, tobacco and rum weren't beneficial to Britain morally, healthily or economically.