Reloading Bug-A-Salt's SHRED-ER Cartridges V 1.0
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- Опубліковано 28 тра 2021
- V 1.0 Reloading the Shred-ER Cartridges by Bug-A-Salt. Turns out we can reload them.
Skip to V4.0 video if you want to skip all of the trial and error we all went through to get an easy clean factory looking load.
In this video I reload the Shred-ER Cartridges using around easily available, water soluble glue, for easy post shooting cleanup and future reloading. This video is intended more as a demonstration of reloading this cartridge. Other adhesives and papers may work better. I chose to go with inexpensive, easily attainable items as one of the reasons to reload these cartridges would be to save money over the factory available cartridges. Also, by using water soluble glue (school glues) it makes for easy fast clean up, to re-use cartridges over and over.
Check out my other Bug-A-Salt videos:
Shred-ER by Bug-A-Salt unboxing and review
• Shred-ER by Bug-A-Salt...
SHRED ER or Bug A Salt? Which to buy?
• SHRED ER or Bug A Salt...
I figured it out. Used a 1.25 hole puncher in tissue paper. This will cover the entire cylinder head perfectly. I purchased a 5/8 leather whole puncher to knock out the middle part of my circle cutout which gives me as close and clean as the manufacturer cutout as you can get. I use a glue stick and it’s clean, fast, and efficient.
Nice work! That is awesome, sounds fast, easy and clean. This is what I hoped for, someone seeing all of the mistakes or labor and figure out a better way without having to work through all of the steps that I did. If I actually get around to reloading any more I definitely do it this way, I still have a ton of factory cartridges that I had bought early on when I started testing the shredder.
@@justanotheravgjoe1314 your videos definitely helped me out and started me on this path. I bought extra cartridges what I plan on doing is only reloading when I have exhausted all my ammo. I’ll put them in a sink with warm soapy water and let it sit for a bit to soften the material, easy cleanup. I’ll make my cutouts ahead of time so it’s as easy as glueing them and filling with salt. If you do a lot at once you will begin seeing savings.
@@kylewestrom7849 after reading your post. I am thinking maybe I should do one final reload video. Give you full credit for the concept and just forward all of the previous reloading videos to that one. I’ll make it short and sweet. I have finally learned to scrap excess footage. When I started making these I thought I had to show each step. 🥱. I could probably make your technique a nice 3-4 minute video. Straight to the point. If ok with you? This is totally yours. So if you want to post it up I don’t want to bump heads. 😊👍🏽. Let me know.
@@justanotheravgjoe1314 we are all here to help each other out and bounce ideas. Please feel free to make the video!
does rock salt work in these? lol. for a bigger guage or caliber shot? idk if thats correct terminology forgive me on that
those birds in the background lol sound epic
Zig-zag rolling papers would prolly be the best paper to use for that.
Getting high watchin the vid, was thinking the exact same thing! You beat me to the comments…
Raw black are the thinnest rolling papers I believe
I was just about to say the same thing. First I thought parchment paper but it would not adhere. Zig zags I think would be best.
Good thought- thank you
use the rice paper version, it's the thinnest. either raw or zig zag
I use these with my crosman vigilante revolver. I use Glad press-n-seal instead of glue and paper. Works great! It peals off easy and is easy to clean off.
Thanks👍🏽.
Glue press and seal
I knew that would be the solution smart cookie you are
I have been saving all of my Shred-er cartridges, thinking there must be a way to re-use them. Then this video pops up in my YT feed! 🙂
I was thinking of using Zig Zag cigarette papers, as I thought that they might be thin enough. But I won't know until I get some. Good video, thanks!
Thank you for the feedback. The V 3.0 reloading video skips the cutting and goes to the hole punch and Elmers school glue instead of glue stick. Worked great and eliminated all of the cutting.
@@justanotheravgjoe1314 Okay, just watched V2 and V3. Thanks!
@@xKmotx thank you for watching, Especially version 3, I went a little long on that one 😓.
I just feed tissue through a xyron sticker maker then stick that to both sides. No muss, no fuss. Then I use a metal chopstick to burnish the edge so it cuts the tissue perfectly. You can also push the center back in so it cuts one side for you.
That is pretty cool. I had to look up the Xyron Sticker maker as I had no clue what it was. It is also not very expensive, that could prove cost effective over time. How is clean up? That has been my main issue with trying different material and adhesives is prep time after shooting them. Do the stickers come off easily?
@@justanotheravgjoe1314 The xyron has different choices of adhesive. You want to order the “repositionable adhesive” . The cleanup is super easy. The tissue and adhesive will roll off kinda like rubber cement when you have spent the cartridge. If you precut the tissue using two sizes of punch, then when it goes through the xyron, it has only the tissue paper sticker and no outlining adhesive. It’s as close to factory specs as you can get. I even made a jig to precisely align my placement. Have fun and be safe.
TRACING PAPER(FROM STAPLES) IS VERY THIN & BETTER THAN TISSUE PAPER. ALSO USE GOOF OFF(FROM HOME DEPOT OR LOWES) TO REMOVE OLD GLUE. THIS WORKED GREAT FOR ME.
Wow, why has tracing paper not come up before. That is brilliant, my only issue with the tissue is how fragile it it when applying, tracing paper would be perfect 🤔👍🏽
I'm going to try this with my Crossman CO2 revolver. It uses a similar revolving disc for .177 lead pellets. I am going to use cigarette rolling papers.
That should work. I am filming a comparison this weekend and if you load up the corpsman discs with salt should be fine, I have heard from commenters that the shred-er discs have some synchronizing issues. I haven't gotten a chance to check that yet.
That would be cool to see a video of your experiment.
Try using glad press-n-seal. It works great for my crosman vigilante.
I wonder if you could use rolling papers
get a wooden dowel that's just slightly smaller diameter than the cartridge such that you can stack like 6 papers on top of each other, hold the end of the dowel down on them, and just in one quick trace with an exacto/razor, you could cut out a bunch of perfect circle blanks for use as the front and back covers. this would save time and fiddling with trying to trim bits off the outside. you'd still have to trim the inside hole in the middle, but that's not nearly as much work as having to do all those little indents on the outside edges.
Sugar water, single ply tp on back side just laid upon it... let dry. Fill, and lay same lightly damp tp on top side. Let dry and peel excess off.
I have a gammo viper break barrel that shoots 22 cal pellets and shot. It shoots hard but it’s easy to reload the shot shells. Might be the next step up from this. I would never put salt in that gun but it’s a decent mouse killer. 😁.
Try cornmeal or baking soda .. It shouldn't cause corrosion and would take down wasps
Reminds me of the good old days when we used to load rock salt in 12g for fruit thieves in the orchard.
😁👍🏽, I had some friends way back when, that used to tell me they did this back on the ranches and farms as well. I guess this is just a scaled down version for the flies. (probably a bit pricier too, although now a days with the cost and availability of primers, it might not be that far off.
@@justanotheravgjoe1314 Cousin fired a warning shot of rock salt into his orchid one night and hit his sister inlaw in the ass.
@@sg7392 😂. I couldn’t find the appropriate emoji for a stifled laugh with snot shooting out of my nose. 😊👍🏽
The railroad dicks and yard bulls regularly do this as well for people trying to hop trains or are in the yard trying to steal. They will load rock salt and little bbs from tiny roller bearings but they are real small like they are from a cpu fan or something definitely don't wanna get hit it will ruin your week.
Maybe you can use a compass to cut perfect discs out of the tissue paper by using an original as a template
Pretty good but some suggestions to make it easier.
Get an automotive trim adhesive like 3M 8080 or similar, and spray the paper instead of applying to the plastic discs. You can also use a silicone adhesive like Beacon 3 in1 and smear it on the paper with your finger. Apply the glued papers to the discs and then let the glue dry a few hours before trimming. And get an exacto knife. Should work much better.
stevepxs. That is brilliant. I was really looking for just simple water soluble adhesive that I could just toss used cartridges in cup of water to dissolve. Yes, I think you have it though, you could get some good, clean easy sticks. I was also trying to use stuff I (and what I thought would be common items for most folks around the house). My exacto blade was exceptionally dull and I couldn't find where I had hidden my replacement blades so I went to what I had In my work table :-). I actually like to make the simple errors so that the viewer will know not to. See you already know what to do and how to improve on it. 👍🏽
Have thought about 5/16" key hole punch and parchment paper to make the seals for use with adhesive
V 4.0 Final video, I use a 1.25" and 5/8" punch to cut out an identical paper disc to that of factory and lay it right now. Works pretty fast and clean. Any thin paper works. Thank you, all of the ideas have been from viewers so I appreciate the time and thought you put in. 👍🏽
Does the glue from the glue stick come off easy when done? Was wondering if you could just soak in warm water and brush off before reloading again?
The "School Glue" sticks come off very easily. The only reason I prefer the liquid school glue, is that when clumps of the glue from sticks gets under tissue, the tissue often tears when trying to Smooth it out. I was using old sticks, so a fresh stick might work fine.
Using glad press and seal paper is the closest to the factory seal. After use just peal off and redo without having to clean up glue.
It's probably what the manufacturer uses.
You can buy single hole punches that are slightly bigger than the bore of the cylinders, so you could save on tissue paper, just punch out a whole lot of them at once then lay glue down on the cylinder and use those fine tweezers to apply them to the cylinder. Probably a bit more work but you don't have to trim the excess.
This is a great idea. Check out the v 3.0 SHRED-ER reloading video. It worked well, a longer video but my first go at this method on camera. So it is a fast forward view for sure. I think my favorite method so far if using a reload. That is why I left in my mistakes, so that you know not to do them. Follow up attempts were much easier.
that sounds really effective. i dont even own one but i like this idea haha
if you cut the paper into the correct size disc first it is SO much easier, would have been nice to a comparison shot with factory Vs reload
You nailed it, that is how the final video is being done, first three really brain storming. Just wanted to see if we could do it effectively. Final, will be out soon, is fast, and clean. Thanks, I read to comments to figure out the stuff I cannot, and this is one of those. Thank you👍🏽
Wonder if king size zig zags would work. Rollin papers are pretty thin
I have been told that. I think it would work. Might be better as I think tissue is borderline too thin but I can get at dollar store and the point for me is keeping the cost down, so if it works 👍🏽. Also have better method for cutting the paper. I have a final reload video coming out. With all of your help I have it down where I can load several cartridges a minute.👍🏽.
what would happen if you pour just a small bit of melted wax into each hole and let it settle into the bottom of the hole before filling with salt then cover top with the thin paper?
That is possible, but seems like a lot of work, plus these are really small holes. V 4 Final reload vid (should be up in a few days), culminates in fast easy and clean reload 👍🏽
How about using a hole punch tool to cut out the tissue paper and a straw to help glue them in.
I hadn't even though to scale it down that small, but that may actually be the easies and cleanest way yet. I think I will give that a try this weekend. Thanks for the feedback.
So my question is are these the same little clips that the regular vigilante uses? Do the salt clips fit pellets?
These are the same size, they are not the identical clip as the center ratchet can pop out of the Shred-er clip and the Vigilante clip is one piece. I have a video coming out this weekend 🤞🏽 where I have a side by side comparison and interchange parts. Seems to work fine, not sure, but is possible the shred-er plastic may be a little softer, but seems to hold pellets just fine.
The cleaner Mean Green, one spray will stop flies and knats from ever flying again and they die in about 30 seconds. Then clean spray and bug with same swipe of a paper towel.
Nice.
Use Elmer's school glue and you can just drop them in the dishwasher before you reload again.
Agreed, the Elmer's school glue is my favorite, I switched to it in the v 3.0 video and it cleaned up much better after shooting. Also if you do use a glue stick don't use one that has dried and shriveled 🤦♂️, Dishwasher is a good idea. I wonder if this plastic will warp. I'll have to try it.
like that painter tray as
war table for projects
Would a chemical solution be easier I wonder? If you just dripped some water on each chamber while filled I wonder if that would hold once dry. If it did my concern would be firing, and if it would just be firing a little salt rock instead of the shotgun effect it has now.
Thanks, it might be easier, I would just skip to the V. 4.0 reload video, pretty much have worked it out, reloaded quickly, cleanly and efficiently The earlier version reload videos were more brainstorming than anything else, when the shred-er first came out the question was, can we reload them. Once we figured we could then it became what is easy. I just soak them in water now and use the blue or green pad from kitchen sink and it practically wipes right off. 👍🏽
Re load it with salt and pepper combo and be the star of any Bar B Q from feet away! What's that? Where's the meat tenderizer? Pew Pew, got it!
have you tried maple syrup as a glue for the paper or sugar water ?
I have not tried that. I will put that on my list, especially if the plain water doesn't work. I want to try that one first as it is clean and inexpensive. (I guess depending on where you live.) 👍🏽🤔
Elmer's liquid spray would apply a thin film of adhesive possibly. Nice vid.
Thanks, that is a great idea, 👍🏽 I've never used it. Does it wash off easily? One of my issues with the scotch tape was that it was a pain to remove all of the bits.
@@justanotheravgjoe1314 it is not so easily washed off. It is quite tacky. I would spray the paper first and lay cylinder onto the paper so as not to get any spray inside each cylinder hole. Pre-cut the other side and spray it before applying to the cylinder. Very light spray is all it takes. FYI, I do not own a bug assault, but this is how I cover free-flight balsa and tissue planes. Just thinking outside the box on this one... LOL.
@@knowitallnotes4254 Thank you. That was the whole point of the first reloading video. It was brand new and I and some viewers were just curious if we could do it. All three videos were just attempts and brain storming so it is much appreciated. I am coming out with a final video, I think I have a quick and easy method now, thanks to all of the viewer comments and ideas. So thank you very much. 😀👍🏽
you could also try transparent mending tissue
That does look fitting, but it looks pretty pricy for what you would be using it for. but it would probably work great.
Maybe try a spray adhesive on paper and a rubber ink roller to apply
Ink roller 🤔. Never thought off a roller. I keep using a little paint brush that the the salt loves to stick to. 👍🏽
have you tried putting those cartridge's in a pellet gun or putting pellet's in the shred-er
I am actually working on a video now of a shred-er and Crosman vigilante comparison, will be using the cartridge in vigilante. I have had some viewer comments about converting the shred-er to shoot pellets. I don't think I am going to be doing that. Would not be difficult you have to remove (a dremel would work easily) a plastic divider at barrel entrance, but the Shred-Er has a plastic barrel. I don't know if it would hold up well with repeated pellet usage. I think salt through a pellet gun should be fine though.
What is the diameter of the plastic cartridge? Buy a crafting circular hole punch that matches the outer diameter and you can just punch circular holes that would fit. Much easier than using a blade.
Yes, in the v.4 video Final,(don't worry will be very short. We (commenter figured which punches) use a 1.25 and 5/8 inch punch to make identical paper disc to factory. 👍🏽😁. Thank you.
A step up from the glue stick would be to use watered down white glue on a sponge you can just dab it on the areas you want to glue with much less residue than a glue stick. Alternatively a q-tip could be used to apply the glue through the paper.
@@alricfremanosrs1509 Good point, and the sponge would probably be better than the full thickness glue and a paintbrush. 👍🏽. Thanks.
Big rolling papers might work!
I think so, I have been using tissue and tracing paper, but any like that should work fine, just cost and availability for your choice.
solution without cartridges (like v3) and less salt (? possible) will be good for using inside rooms near computer monitors. is it danger to fire near a computer monitor?
In V.4 reloading it is much quicker and easier. I noticed that the Factory cartridges are not full, maybe half. Those half filled cartridges hit really hard. I loaded some half way and are very powerful, preferred to the full cylinders. I wouldn't use these inside around anything like computers, finished furniture, fragile items.
ua-cam.com/video/vHU0qU6Nlz4/v-deo.html I shot it at some hard/smooth plastic surfaces and it etched the surface pretty badly.
I had a fly on my camera stand on one filming and I shot it with the Shred-Er. Again, etched a pretty nice salt pattern in the hard plastic.
I just use the Bug-A-Salt 3.0 inside, but even then I don't use around the monitors, computers or other electronics. I just shoo the fly until in a better location.
I'm not sure if I answered your question, but I hope that helps. 😁👍🏽
Spray adhesive on the paper, hold the paper with tweezers. Let dry then cut it.
Thank you, yes the spray adhesive would probably be great. V 4.0 final reload video we pre cut the paper with punches and speeds up the whole process. I haven't tried a spray adhesive yet, I have been sticking with school glues mainly for easy clean up and reuse, but I bet the sprays work a lot better. 👍🏽
What about just using something semi-tacky such as chapstick instead of glue? Seems like it would be okay for the purpose?
I hadn't even thought of something like that. That could work, basically a spreadable wax. It would be hydrophobic so maybe a little more work on clean up. I have been using the Elmers school glue or sticks in final mainly due to clean up, check it out here ua-cam.com/video/lm3p2AGu0FY/v-deo.html much more quickly done and easy to clean up, drop it in water and the paper just falls off pretty much. If you try the chapstick and it works great less us know in the comments, If I try it before you do, I'll let you know 😁 👍🏽
How is your tropical garden doing having been sprayed with salt?
I don't shoot as much salt as everyone seems to think from the videos. But yes this has been a concern of mine from the start, Shred-er, doesn't actually put out that much salt, the cylinders are .177 and only half full, which I discovered after making this video. But I have been looking at alternatives as well, corn cob media or maybe used coffee grounds. 🤷♂️. Mostly for the videos, I don't actually use these that often.
@@justanotheravgjoe1314 the slow-motion makes it look like a huge spray of salt missing the target. Thanks for the reply.
I mean yeah it's more powerful than the 3.0 bug-a-salt. But why make it so tedious compared to the old version? Plus Co2 are disposable too.
Agreed. I still use the 3.0 for almost all of my fly and mosquito kills. I honestly have done most of the shred-er shooting for the videos in testing, reloading and VS. It is a fun gun, but not a necessary one. It is more work, maintenance and waste.
Co2 is what gives it the extra power... The gun is focused on killing tough exoskeleton bugs like wasps/hornets which to me personally the 3.0 fails badly at. It’s meant to compliment the 3.0.. I wouldn’t waste my Co2 and cartridges on flies personally.
I agree, This is really for the tough skin bugs. So far this season the flies have been the only pests around in enough quantity to do testing with, but definitely overkill on flies...although I have had some pretty impressive results. 😁
3m spray glue would work great
Cool you figured out a reload. I jus save my co2 for my expensive pistols. I can hit a gnat with the new adventure force half dart lazer of a nerf type gun. [nerf killer] Shoots 150 feet at high fps. and is actually accurate with the Force pro half darts. They are precision made. Still want a bug a salt 3.0 though. Thanks for the intel brother! But sinve I have my own revolver with home made salt loads I am good. Got lucky when I picked up the gun. It has fake bullets with holes in the end for BB's or salt wads. I just dont like wasting a co2 just to blast a fly. But If he pisses me off enough. I might.
That sounds pretty cool, the dart sounds like it has good range, I guess would be limited on how far away you can actually see the fly 👍🏽.
If you are going to buy only one, the 3.0 would be the way to go IMHO. Can use it inside and out and it is ready to use whenever you grab it. No CO2.
How many shots approx do you get out of each CO2 Cartridge?
I have never fired over 30 ( 3 cartridges) at a time. And co2 lasts fine but if you let it sit it will definitely need a new cartridge for next shooting. As I mainly shoot this for the videos. Usually use bug a salt for every day use. I change co2 frequently.
I did one video where I kept CO2 in past prime and viewers noticed weren’t getting usual devastation. Since then I change co2 after two cartridges.
Would it not be easier to just get the inside and outside diameter of the paper on cylinder and precut the paper.
What’s so different about their salt and regular table salt🤔
about $5 😁
Difference that is😆, maybe one is slightly finer but No real significant difference that warrants the difference in price. I just bought it for the videos.🤷♂️
Would tiny "nose hair" scissors ✂️ work?
I would just skip to v 4 or 5. This video was the first attempt based when shredder first came out. Very labor intensive and tape residue wasn’t great for multiple reloads.
Thanks for watching. 🙏🏽
Please try alternative loads (pepper?)
👍🏽. I do want to try this, and other alternatives to salt.
Joe, I used your suggestion in my alternative load video:
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well, I was going to, but I bought the wrong pepper (fine ground instead of course.). But I had a spot for it and I give. you credit for the suggestion.
If you would like your JustAnotherAvgJoe mug, please contact me at Justanotheravgjoe@gmail.com, the info is also I n the closing credits of the alternative load video. Thank you for your suggestion. 👍🏽
try tracing paper... that's what they use I think or invisible tape.
the same paper they use in making a paper kite
maybe you could make a punch to cut the paper before gluing it on like what comes on it
Yes , that is exactly what we are now doing, Great idea. Actually two punches a 1 1/4 and a 5/8 inch punch will make an identical disc. Thanks, it was a comment like yours that turned me on to it, I wouldn't have taken the time myself to figure it out. 😃🙏🏽
You should do a test with large grain kosher or sea salt and go find a tarantula
I kind of like tarantulas. But I am planning on testing different salts as well as other projectiles. 👍🏽
Does the special salt that is sold on the bug assault website really make a difference?
No. It´s just ordinary tablesalt with a heavier price tag.
🙄, No. Not that I have been able to tell. I bought some to try, so I use it now, but I will probably not buy in the future. I shot some video side by side with Morton's and couldn't see any visible or functional difference (didn't post, because it was so uneventful). Of course, my testing very basic, I can't measure actual forces applied or anything, but to me dead bug = dead bug. Foil damage = foil damage.
@@justanotheravgjoe1314 I didn’t think that there would be much of a difference. Thanks for responding and keep creating awesome videos. They are great!!!
@@darkoflight4938 I thought there was no difference but I just wanted to make sure.
@@justanotheravgjoe1314 is the laser worth putting on my 3.0?
How do you remove the middle insert? Looks to be hard and it’s clipped in.
They are a bit tight initially but push hard from the back (non ratcheting side.) and they pop right out. Future insert and removal is much easier. Keep an eye out for my last reloading video. Someone who gave me the punch out idea may be mentioned for a bit of swag.👍🏽
@@justanotheravgjoe1314 can’t wait to see friend! I tried my method last night, worked beautifully. No cutting needed, already have a zip bag full of perfect tissue cutouts for reloading.
@@kylewestrom7849 yeah I have done a test and loaded up a vigilante cartridge. I just cut out a bunch with tracing paper which is thin but easier to cut in the punches. And a little less fragile. I am waiting on a couple during as one commenter mentioned just using water. So seeing if that will work. 🤷🏽♂️
@@justanotheravgjoe1314 I would be interested in the water as well. Someone mentioned Elmer spraying glue which seems like a good idea but they also said it’s hard to clean. Also, I’d be afraid if it got into the cylinder bores. If you sprayed the paper then the glue will be on the paper and salt will stick to it.. probably won’t effect performance but worth noting.
@@kylewestrom7849 Yes, agreed I think many of the suggestions have been great for reloading, my issue has always been the clean up. If the clean up is difficult, we all tend to through them in the corner for later and later never comes. Then we have a shredder sitting in the corner becoming an expensive paper weight.
Try a thin coat of rubber cement
Apply it to the paper.
Should clean off easy
Although I prefer bug hunting
With my toothpick crossbow .
Not easy, takes practice but
Super satisfying taking out a fly
At 18" out with a toothpick
I also took down "big game
A water bug "roch"
You know how they say they
Can live along time without their heads... well they die real fast
Impaled with a toothpick at the base of the skull.LOL
+ no salt mess
And as a bonus, it DRIVES MY
WIFE CRAZY
😂
What’s the model of that targets?
Not sure, it came with a slingshot I got for my daughter. Just kind of borrowed it for the video 🤫
You could try fingernail scissors for trimming the paper.
That would work👍🏽. V4 final reload vid. Use a 1 1/4 and a 5/8 inch punch and count out disk that matches factory paper size. But definitely for what we did in the first video that would have worked much better. Thank you 🙏🏽.
A you tuber named Shawn Woods makes mouse traps,
You and him should come up with and incorporate the salt gun with a trap to dispatch rats.
LOL, those mouse traps can be pretty elaborate, I just slap some paper on plastic. I would love to see something like that though.👍🏽
do they make a 50cal. yet?
Funny you should ask, I am doing a home loaded .50 cal bug gun trial video, I don't know yet how it will work, that is an awful lot of salt.
@@justanotheravgjoe1314 make it happen bro👍
I was bored.
And I for lack of better terms filled mine with spit balls.
Holy s*** that worked. You have to be a little more accurate.
And there's more clean up.
But it definitely worked.
That is awesome. Love it.
Rolling papers
Try putting the glue on the paper instead of the plastic chamber piece should come out a lot cleaner
Thanks, Yes it does come out a lot cleaner. Check out the V.4.0 reloading video, worked out the bugs and looks almost identical to the factory loads, maybe even a little cleaner.
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Thanks for watching
You should check out SaltSWAT. It attaches to the crosman 2240. It will solve your salt loading problem. So powerful.
Wow, thanks, that is really cool. Only down side for me would be when I'm walking around the front yard looking for black widows. The bug-a-salt products are colored as to keep neighbors from calling the cops on me 😁. I may get one of those for the back yard though 👍🏽.
@@justanotheravgjoe1314 You are totally right!! Bugasalt does a great job with the bright colors.
I think the saltswat could be the gun in the next Star Wars movie or Bruce Willis Die Hard movie
@@justanotheravgjoe1314 Do you have a Crosman 2240 pellet gun?
@@justanotheravgjoe1314 send me an email at txsaltswat@gmail.com. I am the owner, Tony. I want you to do a video for me comparing the shredder vs. saltswat.
@@saltswat Thank you will do.
They need a salt reloading machine. 👍🏻
Yes, it is a tedious process no matter what method we use. There are two viewer comments that have found nice methods of stream lining the process, but regardless it is time and effort. This first video was really just to see if we could reload at all and get it to work.
Lee's reloader ...coming up
@@toetz4491 that would be great classic turret is still my favorite.
Load with one BB to improve your marksmanship on flys, shot shell salt is too easy.
True, although of all the salt guns I've tried out so far, the shredder has the tightest salt grouping, I think it is the 9+ inch barrel. But yes, the salt shot does make the whole thing easy. I haven't actually aimed at a fly in...Hmm I can't remember. I just point and shoot. A BB would definitely have me working my marksmanship. 👍🏽
Seems like zigzag paper and a glue stick would do the job
Definitely
Make a punch to cut out the discs. Then all you have to do is apply glue and cut the center out
Nailed it David thanks. V.4 Final reload video is coming out soon (hopefully today or tomorrow) that is exactly what we (viewer input) did and works quickly, easily and cleanly. 👍🏽. Oh and it will be short 😁
Instead of salt, I suggest you try poppy seeds.
I have had a couple of people mention the poppy seeds. That makes a lot of sense to me. Will definitely give that a try, but will probably have to wait for some warmer weather as the yard has been pretty clear with the cold and rain. 👍🏽
Thanks for watching.
And aqua net hair spay .
Rolling papers Maybe too
I bet that would work, I have had a bunch of commenters and friends mention that as well. Any thin paper I think would be good. I use tissue paper as I live really close to a dollar store and get a bunch for a buck.
I have used sand instead of salt in my 22 cal. pellet gun by putting a ball of paper towel then about 3/4 inch of sand followed by another ball of paper towel. Works really well on those damn cave crickets in my garage. I was actually thinking of getting the Bug-A-Salt for some faster shooting... Cool video!
Thanks, I was thinking of switching to sand or corn cob media. After all of these videos I worry about sterilizing the yard. V.4 final reloading for shredder will be out soon if you get one, it is fast easy and clean, first 3 were more brainstorming trial and error. Bug-A-Salt though would be a good way to go, inexpensive, fast and pretty powerful.
@@justanotheravgjoe1314 I'll look into the shredder..thanks for the tip
Add the glue to the paper not the cartridge with salt already in it
Thanks, Yes, that is what ended up working better. Check out V.4.0 ua-cam.com/video/lm3p2AGu0FY/v-deo.html
Appreciate the feedback, that is what V1-3 ended up being trials and error based on feedback. I have a new quick load video coming out soon (hopefully in a few days). This is for a fast, clean load, without messing with the paper, if you don't mind it no looking like a factory load. 👍🏽
Is that a 7th ID shirt your wearing…?
It was👍🏽. I was waiting to see if someone caught that. A 1/9 Manchu. Yourself?
@@justanotheravgjoe1314 Bravo co 5/21…! 89-93 Bravo Rangers! Whoo-rahh
@@chrisdolin1859 I was 7th at Ord 88-90 then off to 2 ID, but I loved Ord. Were you there for the closure?
@@justanotheravgjoe1314 ETS’d Jan of 93 as soon as we got back from Honduras. So I left just beforeFt Ord closed and was transferred to Ft Watchuka Washington.
Lorenzo Maggiore voted you down I guess.
I got the Bug-a-Salt 2.0 and very happy since 5-6years. But this Thing with those not reloadable catridges is a lame ass move. Cheers
I should probably do a follow up video. The bug-a-salts are my go to just for ease and cost effectiveness. But I would still buy a shredder if I had it to do over. You buy these kind of guns for fun, planned fly/bug/pest hunts. You don't grab a shredder because there is a fly in the kitchen.
what a PITA We need a Salt gun that works like an airsoft gun. Pour in the salt and let it fly
Agreed, I believe I even state in several of the Shredder videos that the Bug-A-Salt is still my preferred salt gun. These are just fun but expensive to use.
Factory looks like it’s rice paper / starch paper
That could be it. I have been using tissue just as it is cheap (dollar store) and easy to come by. I will have a final video out in a week or two and hopefully get the embarrassing v1-3 moving to it. V4 will be it. Can now load consistently and easily in less than a minute. I will definitely check the rice and starch paper out. Thanks 👍🏽
put the glue on the paper not the cartridge
I think if i spend $100 I am set for a year about 1080 shots
LOL, you are absolutely correct. In fact I only use the reloads for the videos. When I posted the original video, most of the comments were regarding the fact that you had to buy the proprietary factory ammo and many viewers were worried about a discontinued product and not being able to get the ammo. That is why I started trying this out, honestly V 1-3 suck and take too much time, v 4 is easier and the no paper reload video is the easiest and fastest, but I still use factory loads at home. Thanks for taking the time to watch and comment on this video, I cringe when I look at some of these I made (usually I cringe when watching any of my videos 🤢), but hopefully it will save others time not making the same errors I did.
👍🏽😁. Thanks for watching.
thin starch paper
Version 4: final is out with all of the streamlining. Starch paper, tracing, tissue, rolling. All seem to work just fine 👍🏽. Don't bother with v 2 and 3, brainstorming scotch tape and punched tissue.
Get yourself a pack of Raw 500's and some Elmer's.
I'll have to give that a try at some point, that might be a little better than straight up tissue paper that I am currently using. I have a final load video coming out that seems to have all fo the bugs worked out. The Elmer's school is definitely the easy clean up. 👍🏽
@@justanotheravgjoe1314 ..watered down and painted on the paper, let to dry, filled, let to dry...you could build a nice pump with salt chambered..
@@ryancavanaugh4479 Thanks, I appreciate the comments and ideas, I would never think of most of these things on my own. I have had a couple people mention using just water on paper, I am going to try that out after work today. (Yeah, I actually have a job 🤷♂️). The salt I have started using one of those restaurant ketchup bottles from the dollar store. seems to work pretty well.
Tops cigarette paper would work
yes, it should work great. Check out final v4 reloading coming out in next day or two for final fast/clean reloading of shredder cartridge.
OK, you've proved it's a doable thing (to re-load) for the Bug-a-Salt but...wow Talk about time consuming and labor intensive!
Mic, you are not wrong. All the comments and feedback helped streamline it a bit. I would skip v 2.0 and 3.0 and go straight to v 4.0 as it isn't so bad. I have a new one coming out that is even faster and cleaner for the reload. Thanks for the comment, I just realized I should put v 1.0 on this one to let the viewer know this is an early attempt. 👍🏽
Thanks for watching
@@justanotheravgjoe1314 Thanks Joe. Well, fly season here is about over but I've definitely got to get one of these for next season. They look like a lot of fun and would definitely be something to have come camping season.
How about rice paper? cough cough
That should work, any thin paper. Check out V4.0 final reload video posting this week. Quick, easy, and clean. Can use whatever thin paper you have on hand.👍🏽
THE SEALS IN THIS LITTLE GUN WILL FAIL UNDER PRESSURE FOR ANY LENGTH OF TIME...I KNOW FROM EXPERIENCE...
I that with removing the CO2 as well, or only if you keep the CO2 in the gun...or both?
I am sure they are just little O-rings same as a BB/pellet gun just replace the O-ring with a higher quality and use a little petroleum jelly on it for longevity.
@@thahitman2 I haven't taken a pick in them yet, but that makes sense.👍🏽
@@thahitman2 yea I agree.. this whole gun has the workings of the vigilante.. I think they just say not to keep the Co2 in the gun to cover their assets but overall I think it will be fine. I make sure to put a drop of oil on each Co2 to help seal it.
Slow down with the go fast
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at $0.10/rd the company would have
to go belly up to be worth reloading
The last reloading video coming out V 4 final, is pretty easy, but yes it comes down to what is your time worth kind of thing. 👍🏽
Your wife's gonna be pi$$ed. Stealing her nail file lol
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Hey csn i swim in your pool
May be a little salty at present after all of these salt gun videos 🙂.
If you use Kosher salt it will be like 00 buck shot!
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@@Dan_the_fisherman Thank you for this recommendation, It has given me some new ideas. The tissue tape is a great idea and am looking at related products, the only issue I would see is that it states that it is permanent, so this may cause an issue if you plan on repeatedly re-using the cartridges. Clean up between reloading has been the biggest issue I have been dealing with. Hence the kid glue, so I can just soak in water. But now I wonder if regular scotch tape (magic tape for easy removal) might work that would be fast and easy. I will try that out.
Just get an airsoft SMG. They come in fully automatic, allowing you to shred an entire nest and any sorry son of a bitch that flies out of it
You are putting wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyy too much into this. Put a piece of paper down. Pack some salt in the holes , add a drop of water to it. finish packing the holes. let dry for 10 minutes and fire away. We have been doing this for a month or so with our Crossman air pistols. Has the same cartridge concept.
Yes, absolutely agree. When I made the first video, The shredder was brand new and I was just curious if I could reload these as many commenters were questioning. V 2,0 was just trying magic tape to speed it up, but that ended up being messy. V 3.0 was clean, but time consuming. All 3 videos were based on viewer comments.
But, water. That is BRILLIANT! It never occurred to me to try water, especially on such thin paper, cleanup would be a breeze. Hmm, but that would mean that I don't get to peel off the school glue residue off of my fingers when I'm done 🤔.
But I was thinking of a quick final video and putting forwarding messages on all of the old ones as I now have fast/easy cut out layovers and can load several discs in minutes. Water though, that would be a total game changer. Thanks, 👍🏽
no worries, our saying is, if it flies it dies. :) Kill away insect slayer.
They want $124 for this gun. That’s bs you have make your own way to load the gun. Ok, not even wroth $1.24 joke waste of money and time
Yes, this is definitely a kick in the wallet, and you are not wrong.
You don't have to make your own loads though. You can buy them but that is another expense $12 for 12 ($1 each). The loading videos (1-3) were really brainstorming videos seeking input from viewers. V4.0 is really the one that came through as quick and easy. You can do this with a Crosman vigilante that is ~1/2 the cost of the shred-er (as long as you don't mind the black revolver 😁).
I did the comparison of the Vigilante and shred-er here:
ua-cam.com/video/x3VUmqMZ2t4/v-deo.html
Thanks for watching.
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