NEW Leatherman FREE P4 vs the Wave! Is this the BEST multi-tool available?
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- Опубліковано 8 сер 2024
- NOT A SPONSORED VIDEO!- I finally got my hands on the Leatherman Free P4! Is this the BEST multi-tool available?? I've carried a Leatherman Wave for years now and was patiently (not so patiently) waiting for this release! In this video I compare the Free P4 and the Wave side by side to show the drastic changes of this new release! It sports an all new magnetic architecture and 21 tools! Does it live up to the hype? Watch and you tell me!!
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What are your thoughts on the all new redesigned Leatherman Free P4? Sound off below!
I think there was no need to fumble between smooth and serrated blades on your Wave. The serrated blade has jimping (the little bumps) on the spine of the blade, just above the thumb hole, where they should have been put on the serrated blade of the FREE.
Genesis It’s annoying to have to take off my gloves just to feel for jimping. I feel the single raised edge is more up my alley.
Chrispy Things must be some thick gloves. Lol
Genesis I live in Buffalo. Work outside a lot in the winter. Yes they’re thick.
Wish it had a pocketclip like the p2, or wish the p2 wasn't a combo blade.
No bit sockets, no T shank swappable tools... Sorry but the surge and wave are much more capable and handy tools. Cant believe they left those 2 simple crucial tools off this new model. I'll be sticking with my Surge, no contest.
I also will be sticking to my surge and i also love my wave
hope they come up with a P8 or something that's the FREE series equivalent of the SURGE
You nailed it, Mike. I have a Surge and an old Wave. I can't think of any reason why I'd buy this POS. The sheath also sucks. There's no place to put a Maglite Solitaire. That in itself is a deal breaker for me.
Same here.
The liner lock on the wave is one of the simplest things to use...not sure why you find it so difficult
NEKNIM I didn’t it was difficult? I was pointing out that when you unlock it, your fingers will always be in the way of the blade. Have I ever been cut unlocking the blades? No. But the new system is a definite improvement.
The more videos I watch, the more I'm pushed toward a Wave
pzcanada That seems to be the overwhelming consensus. I love it so far, but I’ll be doing a follow up in 6 months to see if I still do then.
@@ChrispyThings pls do chrispy.im loving the p4 but the idea of metal filing sticking inside the moving parts and jamming the moving part is kinda ...*holding me off* maybe if you can show us if it easy to clean off (ferrous gunk ) keep up the good video coming cheerd
Wave is great, I just wish they'd update the scissors. The scissors on the surge are way better. If scissors are not something you use often, then the wave is awsome. Wave also has the micro screw driver, for glasses and such. I wish they'd put that on everything!
Wave is the way to go, I had mine for 10 years and holding pretty good.
@@nicholasmapes I have the old surge that still had the mini driver in it.
The serrated blade on the Wave has ridges on the thumb hole, that's how you tell the knives apart before opening it. I think the K series looks appealing but for a full size blade I would expect better steel at that price.
That’s fine. But when I go to grab my tool on a job, I need something a little more substantial than a little jimping on the serrated blade to tall them apart. The Free got it right.
Also, the mechanism of the scissors are the same of the surge. The old and the new
@@ChrispyThings I use my wave every day at work also, it's the only tool I need to carry with me and I have no issues telling the blades apart, I'm surprised that you're unable to tell the blades apart. With the tool in hand, it's pretty obvious.
@@ChrispyThings Try using your sense of touch rather than your eyes
The point is you were wrong. So shut up and stop changing the perspective
I like the wave blade better
I have the Wave, the Charge and the Free P4. I carry the Free P4. It is so much easier to get to all the tools. Granted I got 30% off retail. I love the sharp edge on the front of the serrated knife. The scissors actually work. The older models were such a pain to get to in the inside tools with scissors interfering. . It is easy to get used where the knives and scissors are. The tool release tabs work so much better than the old method. Much quicker. I have never used the silly little bits in the other tools. I like having the screwdrivers handy and have many drivers that work so much better. The Free P4 is a fantastic EDC tool.
Yep as someone who has carried just about every model LM has put out the P4 is now my favorite LM tool of all time. I’ve retired my Surge as the usability of the P4 makes older models feel like dinosaurs. Yes I’d like a bit driver but now that the ARC is out there’s options. Don’t get me wrong I still love my Surge but for 90% of the time I’m carrying the P4
Just got my P2 yesterday. While it is not perfect, I really appreciate the direction Leatherman is headed. I own at least one of every model of Leatherman, since the PST. My fav of all time is surely the Charge Ti, which gets the most carry time, but I will spend some time with this P2. I am just happy that Leatherman continues to offer new models so my addiction can continue to grow! Will be ordering a P4 very soon. Great review sir!
Leatherman surge for me. 8 years as a military contractor and the surge didn't let me down. Now i work in EMS and I'm still using the 2nd gen surge which i got in '08 along with the Leatherman raptor. Both tools looks pretty beat up but the mechanisms are still smooth as butter. Getting the free series would only be a downgrade
So I purchased the Wave 5 years ago and just used it everyday being an elevator / escalator constructor the only feature I like with the P4 is the one hand operation otherwise my Wave blows the P4 hands down. I like the Screwdriver bits you can put in the Wave. The P4 has just a flimsy Philips and like 4 flat blades. Anyhow still Cary the Wave everyday and well just grab the P4 for show. So I really say all show no go
It's very appealing, but my surge gives me more flexibility. In the free you are stuck with the tools. In the surge i can put whatever i want in the t shrink socket of the file. The same with the screwdriver, the extension and the bits.
then definitely stick with the one you like. The Free is meant as a test bed for going back to the general consumer type multi-tool, but with a new design that makes it have greater ease of use. It's for quick jobs that a person can use it on the job and get a task done quickly without having to fiddle with extra bits and pieces to personalize for a job. Generally speaking, a multi-tool isn't meant to replace an entire tool box of different tools, while it's nice to have the extra bits and the extender, it's not going to do the same job as a full sized tool cause you have to play with so many little pieces. it's not like you're going to have them all with you at any given time while carrying the multi-tool around.
More tools to lose aswell on the surge. You don't want to have a lot saw blade or bit. That's why all the oldschool tools have stationary tools cant lose them
I have them all I still like the old wave just for the removable bit set adapter the surge is king still
Dude, outstanding video. Loved the detail you went into comparing every aspect of these tools. Subscribed to your channel!
Zackery Carroll Thanks man!
You obviously like Free. Great! I'll keep my Wave, though. Oh, btw: I put a pocket clip (LM) in mine. (The way I carry it nowdays) Clip is on the same side as serrated blade, so no confusion.
Man this is great content, looks professional!
Smaller blades, smaller file, smaller saw in a bigger body - all in all the wave wins for me. Considering prices, I don’t get it.
And that small file isn’t serious.
Fantastic,viewed lots of reviews on this tool but have made up my mind on purchasing one after all the detail gone into on this one.
Andrew Medland I really like this tool so far. Thanks for the comment!
Great review I got the p2 alot smaller then I would like . I still love my surge
Take a closer look, you can see a difference between the two blades from the outside. ;) The serrated blade has some jimping...
Fred Prana So I heard. Lol. I’m aware but not enough of a difference. For me. For. Me. 😂
¿And what is the practical or utilitarian advantage of it being magnetic closure?
I already have a Surge but it’s so huge it’s not something I’ll carry in my pocket, it stays in my tool bag. I really like that I’m able to use it with one hand. Might cop that soon...
I have the wave plus. The file also has a diamond side to it for sharpening my knives.
Also, I'm a blue collar worker. I work for the railroad. And the scissors is NOT a deal breaker for me. My last leatherman was the Suoer Tool back in like 1998. So the wave plus is a serious step up. Replaceable cutters, and an eye glasses screw driver. That's so freaking awesome
I really need to do a Free P4 update.
I have a lot to say about this after using it for a while now
I just bought a 2 tone surge and I was debating getting the p4. They are both awesome but I’m happy with my choice
Here’s what I like about the P4:
It can be opened one handed, the tools are accessible very easily, and it looks very nice. The pliers are good and strong, the knives are very sturdy and very capable, and it’s a very interesting concept.
Here’s what I don’t like:
Most of the tools on it are basically useless, like the ruler and file, being too small to do much of anything with accept threaten the object with a slight tickle.
Overall, my thoughts on the tool are:
If you already have a Wave, don’t buy the P4 as a replacement. While the P4 and p2 are very nice multitools, with a very interesting way of doing things, I’m probably gonna hold off until they have a One handed opening version with a more specific demographic, or until they make a “Gen 2” that addresses most of the complaints (around the community).
P.S: why are there 4 different flathead screwdrivers?
is the wave really that cumbersome? considering the price difference(here in Oz) of around $100 id go the wave any day, the file, bit driver and the knife blade gives me the fizz. you obviously like the one handed thing more than me but thats cool. cheers for sharing
As nice as the Free P4 is I am glad I chose the Surge. The ability to swap between files and saws is nice and the ability to swap the bits (especially with the extender) makes it the perfect tool for my job. I have to carry all my tools with me all day every day so having the leatherman 44 piece bit set make up most of my bit kit made them nice and compact. The rest of the setup goes in an electricians tool pouch with other accessories like a ratchet, specialty sockets, etc. I cant imagine lugging around all those individual tools.
The wave+ has replaceable wire cutters. Came out last year
I was going to point that out, but you beat me to it.
being that theres a 25 year warranty do you need replaceable cutters?
@@76aussieguy I think you can send them in and leatherman will try and smooth out the cutters but if they can’t you’re out of luck
@@aidanmorgan6291 with a 25 year warranty they can replace the plier head mate, luck isn't part of this equation
@@76aussieguy have you ever had them replace the pliers on yours
There is a mod available for the Free P4 to support flat bits. Replaces the phillips screwdriver+flat one next to it
Collecting multitools is hobby of mine. I love it. I currently have 27.
I've genuinely noticed that a _LOT_ of people get very "clingy". They've grown fond of their current tool. It becomes like a child of theirs. They defend it like a parent.
It's perfectly fine to really like your tool. I mean, duh, that doesn't need to be pointed out. Wave, surge, center drive, swisstool, whatever. Cool.
But when a person gets "clingy" and defensive though... that's just ... unnecessary. And stupid. You can talk to a person with these kind of irrational defense goggles, and no other approaches will ever make sense, no different insights can ever be made, and they simply _can't_ see other tools and "get it". Only their "child".
Honestly that's real silly... A lot of this is subliminal too, so you may or may not realize you're doing it.
You're missing out on _just enjoying_ a lot of different techniques, approaches, and clever designs. That's it. No defense going on. Just observation and no agenda.
I like the free p4. I think it's great. I also have a wave, a charge+ and a charge tti (plus the bit kits, extender, etc). All different variants of the same thing. Seriously, I know everything about them, right down to how each feels. They're great, most people know that, but I also don't get "clingy" about them. There are other tools with good designs. The free is another one with another approach, focused around _usability._ THAT is the core concept this whole tool is designed around. If you don't get that, then it won't click.
Asking if this is a wave is stupid, it isn't. Asking what it is _on it's own accord_ is better. That's what I'm trying to point out.
(I don't work for or get anything from Leatherman. Just a rugged alaska nut, with a fetish for multitools)
(I'd share my thoughts on the free, but I've rambled on too long. If you want my exact thoughts on the free P4, or curious what tools I have, let me know below)
geefreck Your words are very true. I made a video about a new multi tool and people seem to want to crucify me because they don’t want to like it. Lol. I love my Wave. But I can also live the Free. There’s plenty of love to go around. Lol
When you have 27 multitools and someone else has 1, that someone else has 27 times more experience with that specific tool than you do.
100 Um. No.
100 Let’s do math shall we. If I said I’ve owned a “Leatherman” now for 8 years, almost 9, and I’ve had the Wave for about 3...what exactly does that tell you? Also I’ve had Gerbers before I upgraded to a Leatherman. So who only has 1? I’m confused.
@@ChrispyThings Relax cowboy, I was obviously replying to geefreck
I am whatting for my new Free P2 should be here soon. I live in a more urban environment if You will. So I really did not need a saw and I just hate serrations to. But I just wish Leatherman would have just put there plane knife on the P2 not the part knife part serrations. But what can You do.
Get a non serrated one from the P4 and swap it in.
The linerlock on the wave is exactly like on most pocketknives. I have no issue with it at all. I have the wave, and i love it. I see no reason to purchase the free.
I mean the free has good ass haptics lol
I have a p4 on the way.It will be my first multi tool.After looking at alot of videos of the different multi tools i understand how if you already have a wave or surge paying the price for a p4 is not to thrilling.I have a strong urge to order a wave or surge and havnt even got my free p4 yet.ha.
I personally like the design of the free, but the main blade is a backstop in shape and why cant we get better steals on the edges tools ?
I’ll stick to my Charge with 21 bits in my nylon pouch with bit extender and small light torch at the sides.
Good review. I was going to buy the free but after your video....I end up with charge g 10. Free is a big multi tool with small blades and everything else.
On the wave I have my brain trained to feel for those ripples on the serrated blade and I know which blade I got. Just a super quick flip to look on the other side
I just bought my first leatherman, was originally looking at the p4 when I was learning about all of this and it seems really cool like some really neat concepts that I think will get better with age (meaning they probably will have a lot of issues in the beginning but so do all new ideas, and this has a lot of new ideas in it) but really the p4 was never in play as my first leatherman due to there not being a changeable driver and not being a longer ruler, so I ended up getting the wave plus, and still unsure whether I should have gotten that or the surge which with the ability to swap out new blades and files, and the awl which would have been nice, and the downside being the size but not sure if I would Have minded it since it’ll be in a sheath but we’ll see once my wave gets here whether I made the right decision, Great review
Looking forward to the P4+.
I always like options, and the Free is a good option. but compared to the Wave, I think I still rather have the Wave. It's shorter, the tools are longer, I like the interchangeable bits, I don't like the magnets. Magnets are prone to breakage, collect dirt (iron) and I have never really had an issue with the Wave staying close. The replaceable wire cutter is nice.
I just got the p2 but I like my surge better
On the Leatherman Wave+ it does come with replaceable wire cutters.
I call my wave my third nut, it is a part of my body and how I live and work, I made a leather friction fit sheath to hold it in , takes no time to remove it, I have 5 others for a back up, the way I stick it in my sheath I can open my knife while I remove my wave, think I will stick with the waves. Think quality might look better on wave, I think all leatherman tools are great. Sure I will get the new one eventually.
Nope, Sorry but I still prefer my Surge over the "Free" P2 & P4. This tool looks like a glorified Wingman or Sidekick and I Hate the Phillips on the P2 & P4. I like being able to change my bits out at any time and same with the saw on my Surge. You can't do any of those things with the new Leatherman, these should be cheaper not more expensive!! I will not be buying any of these any time soon let's just say that!!
It seems that leatherman didnt listen to the consumers. No upgraded blade steel, smaller tools, crazy price, and a backstep in design. Just take everything that made the wave a winner and make it better! Whats so hard?
Because what the Wave did is old, outdated, clunky and boring. Also they don't give a crap about putting different steel in these because the steel they use it damn good enough already. Why more people don't see this is beyond me...
@@fourthpanda The point is, why buy one of these when you can purchase a more competent tool for less? Leatherman makes great tools... But this is man jewellery at best.
@@iankeegan5047 everyone seems to be missing the point, they're not after changing bits and an extra 1/4 inch on the blade, the point was ease of use and true one handed operation for all the tools it does have, which NO OTHER tool actually offers. It's a tool for people who actually use it as a multi tool, and not try hards who think it's gonna replace an entire toolbox and save them in the long run.
@@brodieroberts5187 Exactly. A multi-tool is for a quick job when to do something when it'd be too much of a hassle to run to a tool box to get your a basic screwdriver or pliers/wire cutters. It's handy, and it does the job for a lot of day to day things, But it's not for doing everything. You'll still need full sized proper tools for a job, it's not going to replace everything.
The kind of people this is for, are the people who want to just get something done quickly and easily, and may not always have easy access to full sized tools. Someone always on their feet in a packing job, home shop, or business.
I personally work in food service at a fast food place, and I bought a cheep basic multi-tool so that I could get into the habit of bringing and using one, and it's even with the cheap one, it's been a big help. doing everything that I need it for. I'm not going to fix eye glasses, or take apart and fix an entire applience with it. I cut boxes, tape and rubber with the knife, and pull things appart with the pliers, and occationally used the screw drivers to tighten a loose screw on something I'm using in the store and it does all that I need it for. I'm getting the Free P4 myself because I want that ease of use, and the warranty cause i'm using it on the job, and the cheap one could break if I use it too much.
I thought that's why they brought out the Charge. Same tools as the Wave but with higher quality steel
Nice video...a little help for you...the wave the serrated blade is also serrated on the back so you can tell the difference when opening between reg and serrated.
The Wave has replaceable wire cutters now so, for $40 more you get a slightly bigger tool shorter main cutting tools no reversible micro/medium, drivers and you lose an actually useful file for some negligibly better ergo's...If you want to spend an extra $40 just get the charge+ it's the wave with a 154cm blade and a gut hook on the back of the serrated blade.
the point of free isn't some dick measuring contest, it's not "oh, my knife is .234324 of an inch longer, and I have a gut hook for if I want to look inside of some roadkill on my way to work!", the point of the free is the EASE of use, rather than multitude of uses, and emphasis on the TRUE one handed operation, for ALL the tools. For an EDC multi tool, I think the free would be my number one choice from now on. And let's be honest here, why would you need something like a gut hook on a multi tool? If you're out hunting, you're gonna have an actual hunting knife, which is far more suited to the job, at a fraction of the price, and if that longer blade or reversible screwdriver is really that important, just go and get the actual tool, instead of acting like a pocket knife is a replacement for an actual tool kit.
@@brodieroberts5187 you are a fucking idiot.
@@nunyafuckinbizniz hey dipshit , why dont you go complain on reddit or give an actual argument ?
@@PatTriesAgain hey DOGSHIT EATER. I didn't ask you.
I love your video and I just brought a P4 after watching.
I got to tell the owner of P4, If you leave your knife open and because of the buttery smooth swinging mechanism !! The tools was swing accidentally open by my pinky finger hence get myself minor cut on my leg while sitting down using it . DO take note. The rest of the leatherman version somehow has some resistance for their opening where I have time to react.
Frequency Lim Thanks for telling everyone. That’s good info.
Love it BUT...I can't do without that bit changer you pulled out at start...I have all the bits and extended for reach and able to put in normal bits that's not the Leatherman bits...sorry but that's a big deal breaker that's like 40 different bits gone...I know it probably taken out in order for them to say all tools is accessible via one hand...will wait for next generation or keep my Charge for 25 years...don't know which multi tool did it but they kept the bit changer by putting it in the vise were the crimping part...they should have done that. Not using the whole length for rular was just waisted opportunity. Dont really ever use that small bit they took out.
That seems to be the deal breaker for most, and my biggest wish that they kept it there. My money is they’ll release a Free P4+ with the bit changer on it.
@@ChrispyThings I hope so too. Or they could put into the crimping spot so it can hold bits and the extender...I think it was one of the SOG that dit that... something grabber
They are gonna add the bit tool as well. Lbo
It's subtle, but the serrated blade on the wave has jimping on the spine, and the plain blade doesn't.
Leatherman is keeping the bit-changer feature in reserve to promote the NEXT model series. Sales! Sales! Sales! There will always be teasing omissions to entice us. My 20 year old Wave, Supertool, and Swisstool all still work despite battle scars. Yet I own 35 or 40 multitools...
David Siegel Is that true? I didn’t hear that but it makes sense. I dislike greatly when companies do that. Release something new, hold back on features just to update it a few years later with the those omitted features on it. Then slap a + sign on the name. Lol
All the inside tools look very similar to the Wingman and Sidekick. And I prefer the blade of the Wave to the new Free P4. Looks prettier than the Wave... but the design of the Wave/Surge/Charge with a bit kit.. you have everything you'll need. I use my bit kit often, and that useless ruler and small file isnt much of an upgrade. All it has going for it is one hand open operation, magnetic design. I'd honestly still choose a Charge TTI+ or Skeletool CX for lightweight EDC. Looks nice on the eyes, but the Wave is still Leathermans best seller at $100... and can find used ones for around $50-60.
Great points. I wish they included the interchangeable bits here. Everything else I can easily trade off.
Honestly, the inside of the tools of the Wingman and Sidekick were a huge step back. That's why I've considered them budget multi tools. The Rebar as small as it is, is built like a tank. Wingman/Sidekick/Rev are all entry level Leathermans... and they sorta moved those inside tools into the Free series. I've yet to handle a Free, but once I do... I'll probably get a feel of how cheap or good it is.
Kyron Klain Free doesn’t feel cheap...at all. The feel of the tools and overall body honesty feel better than my Wave.
100% agree. Charge TTi everyday on belt and Skeletool CX for dress slacks. Surge with bits and saw blades in truck door.
Rather have my Surge... You can get the basic Surge for around $100-$120... Bit kit for $20 and the bit extender for $15... So if you shop around you can get 64 tools for about the same price as the Free P4... Yes the Surge is like wearing a small brick on your hip but it's so versatile that I don't mind... Don't need the one hand opening thing... If I have a task to do I get my tool ready and get it done...
you can buy a screwdriver with interchangeable bits for about $5, and then buy the Free P4 and not look like a try hard walking around with pockets full of bits and extenders JUST IN CASE you come across a screw that the regular tool won't get to, and you can't just walk to your truck/tool box and grab an actual screwdriver. Let's be honest here, if you have time to get the extra bits out and change them in, you have time to get a real tool and do the job properly.
in my opinion the way wave scissors fold all the way open is ingenious and I’ve never struggled with getting any of the tools out. actually going all the way back to the ingenius cam leatherman developed to employ the extant friction tab rather than use some wispy problematic victorinox-style spring on the scissors of the PSTII, no knife/tool company has so impressed me with engineering innovation like leatherman. I do wish they would go back to the old-school name logo though. that does seem to be when things took kind of a downturn, certainly aesthetically. that OTF contraption was a drastic departure from the ethos that defined of the company
@18:19 Those little bumps that stick up keep it from wiggling when its closed.
Milkman4279 I think your right.About all they could be for.
There is a differences between the blades of the wave when it closed..you can see it and feel it.. .. when the tool is closed there is a small surraded surface that you can feel. Thats how you know which blade your pulling out.
what good is one hand opening a screwdriver that is inferior?
work around metal filings? those fancy magnets are going to be full.
you might like the convenience of this tool but compared to the wave it falls way short.
I love my wave and carry it every day at work. I work in a metal fabrication shop. One little annoyance I have with my tool is metal shaving getting stuck in it. This version with the magnets would be covered in metal shavings so I doubt I would like it. Good video.
kevinleeisme Great point. I watched a video where a guy copper plated his new Free. Between dippings he used steel wool to scrub do the scrub down. The steel wool was coming off and sticking to the magnets. This is definitely not the right tool for you. Thanks for the comment
This is my main concern, being a machinist this thing would collecting shards of stainless and be unusable within a couple weeks.
Thank you! You made my decision to buy the Free P4 and not the Wave+! Will see...
Great video. On your wave the saw has jimping well the straight edge doesn't. Was thinking about getting the Free, but the only thing I really like is the new scissors. So just going to stick to the wave.
That’s the only thing you like that’s different? What about the tools located on the outside of the handles?
SAW and SERRATED BLADE are two different tools. A serrated knife is not a saw.
@@ChrispyThings That would be nice, but I don't like having to pull all tools out to just have to fan them and put most back.
@@davidsiegel9847 Well I call it a sawtooth blade and use it for lite sawing jobs. So... my bad.
@@retroransom9861 Good enough.
the free looks like they took their tools from the cheap sidekick model, it might be ok around the house I guess but the price is really putting me off
Mountain Bear outdoors Yes the price is a factor for most. I think if they included the bit exchanger, lowered the price to the P2 range, it may be an easier pill to swallow.
FYI, on the wave and surge the serrated blade has bumps on the back and is different from the straight edge that has a smooth edge on the back of the blade that you feel with your thumb to tell the two apart before opening.
AZ weld Yes thanks
In the wave have 3 marks on serrated blade to now that is serrated blade. And straight blade don't have marks.
So, you can know which blade use.
FINALLY a victorinox style forward can opener on a leatherman! I can literally open a can with one of those faster than with the kind in the kitchen drawer. I had an email back&forth with one of their engineers about that when I was in college in the 90s. He said we would do that but then the opener wouldn’t function as a bottle opener. I told him nobody I know uses the bottle opener anyway because you can just use the blunt body itself via cigarette lighter technique, but in any case they could just put a little tooth on the base of the large flathead. eventually he stopped replying :D
Everything has a freakin bottle opener in it these days. My wallet has one! Lol. So I wouldn’t mind exchanging the bottle opener for a bit driver on the P4.
the back of the blade is either smooth for straight edge or has jimping for serrated edge
Syntax 604 by the way crispy wings he is talking about the wave
Not on the Free. But the straight blade not the P4 is the only one of the 4 outer tools to protrude from the frame.
I have the surge and the blades are the same. I can feel the serrated blade and regular blade because the serrated blade has ribbing on it. Pretty simple to me.
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The serrated blade has ridges on it, you've had you wave for four years and didn't notice the ridges lol. I'm sticking with my wave.
I know about the ridges. They still look exactly the same.
good vdo chris.
On the wave on the spine of the reg. blade it’s smooth but on the serrated blade it has notches on it right by the hinge.
Yeah, not having that bit set anymore is a minor pain..
On your wave, one of your blades has some grooves on the top of the blade. That's how you can feel which blade it is..
I’m aware of the tiny, tiny grooves that everyone seems to think are the tell tale sign. Lol. For me, the grooves aren’t good enough. The Free got it right.
Regarding the bit set. Yes it’s a pain but the reality is I rarely used the bits on a daily basis. It would definitely be nice to have it there though.
They are going to add the bit set bruv you think they are stupid? Lol
fourth panda Yeah lol! Lol indeed!
I don't like the fact you can't use the bit kit also the sloppiness of the handlewill definitely limit the use of the screw drivers reach however access to all the tools while it is closed is a nice feature , not a nice enough feature for me to make the switch to many features I consider short comings of the p4 free
That little piece that sticks out 18:47 is usually called lanyard ring and it suppose to be on top when the multi-tool is in the nylon sheath, that way you can pull it out much easier by grabbing the lanyard or keychain attached to it. Unfortunately such clip is on the pliers side and the lanyard, or keychain, will be in the way every time you use the pliers, unless they have a detachable lobster clip clamp to remove it.
Rien que la vérité Well that lanyard ring is coming off. I hate it.
@@ChrispyThings Looks useless to me, I rather have the pocket clip installed.
You almost have me sold on the Free P4, but Leatherman blew it for me by leaving out the punch. I use the punch tool so often that I can't see having a tool without it. Put the point on the awl, and I'm in all the way.
Susan Temple So, if they included the bit changer and replaceable micro screwdriver, they could’ve left the extra small flat head off of the awl. It’ll still punch through leather but not exactly the same.
I agree with Susan. The screwdriver at the end of the awl makes it no longer an awl. (I use the awl to make starter holes for wood screws...)
They need to go back to the drawing board in my opinion yes it is handy to have one handed operation with the P4 but here is the catch the screwdriver blade are not interchangeable and when you run into a fastener other then Flat or Philips you have a big problem. Also the miniature glasses screwdriver is missing which is in my opinion better then P4. So if they can put the blade interchangeability then would be a pretty cool tool but for now Wave or surge is still better in my books
its nice but i can't give up the bit driver
Definitely understand that.
Wait until we retrieve it from camping floor. Sand and dirt composed of fine iron powder. The tool will receive a free upgraded for lumps of iron filings. I’d avoid magnetic tool or avoid camping with it.
I couldnt do the wave. I did months of reviews on every tool and i bought the surge. That shit was the best $100 i ever spent and i use the shit out of it. I really really want this p4, but i feel like id be downsizing. The convenience of this p4 tho is awesome
mach 6 It’s definitely a downgrade from the Surge and costs more money. I still really like the P4 but there’s a few things I don’t like about it after using it for a while now. I’ll do a follow up vid soon.
Charge TTi everyday on belt and Skeletool CX for dress slacks. Surge with bits and saw blades in truck door.
The Leatherman Wave is the best.
While the Free P4 has the ease of one-handed use in its favour, all else seems like a down grade or a disadvantage. Shorter and smaller tools, lacking interchangeable drivers, and a magnet system that can attract metal filings that can easily gunk things up. Nice idea on the use of magnets to make the opening of tools a whole lot smoother but it has its disadvantages. Smaller and shorter tools are a major pain to have compromise on. I think will stick to my Surge, Wave +, Supertool 300 and Rebar or my Victorinox Swisstool and Spirit X.
£190 in UK, that’s 245 US dollars. Ridiculous price, otherwise I would buy one
I am from UK and was looking forward to buying one but just to expensive
Andrew Medland did you end up getting one?
in denmark it is 350 $...
Is it “Free?” I’ll take two! 😂🤣
Nice review! 👍🏼
Ooo! $139.95!
The Leatherman Wave serrated blade has gimping on the spine identifying it from the none serrated blade.
This is a slightly nicer wingman, not as good as the wave but it costs more?
I think they really failed on the pricing.
Disagree on the wingman comparison. Agree on the price.
it's been designed from the ground up, unlike the Wave (just a Core with inverted knife access), there's no other tool like it on the market... how cheap did you think it was gonna be?
Brodie Roberts Honestly I feel like it should be at the 100 dollar price point and think it’ll drop to that range after it’s been out for a bit.
@@ChrispyThings yeah, I agree the price is enough to put anyone off, and it will probably drop after time, but like I said, it's a whole new redesign, so people with price expectations similar to the old tools are going to be shocked.
Are the pliers spring tension?
Rodney Ortiz no they are not.
Wave all day long been using the wave sinse 1998.
A hundred and forty bucks and no pocket clip? WTF Leatherman?
They’ll send you one for free
so where is the bit driver?
Greatly missing in the P Series. I mentioned that in the video too 👍🏻
@@ChrispyThings yeah i was referring to leatherman cause they did not include it would've been better if they put the one on the rebar.
It’s almost like a fidget toy
I feel like this is a much better emergency tool rather than an edc tool. The main redeeming quality is the one handed operation of it. It definitely is a problem with the leatherman design that a lot of the tools are usually accesible on the inside. The ease of access design is something hope they carry over to newer design, maybe with a more sensible pricetag also. Still, the free is a good contender for my first leatherman tool, but I still have a lot of pros and cons to mull over. The scissors are a definite plus over the wave though, I still get chewed out over snapping the tab off on my friends wave lol.
What I want in an updated version:
Better steel
Longer blades
Bit changer
Wider pliers
Keep it about $100
@@ChrispyThings I definitely agree. The real question is if the sales on the new models will provide the incentive for a redesign in the future. I guess we'll have to wait and see.
The wave has replacable wirecutters now too. tbh I think they should have included their replacable saw blade, and the exchangable bit stuff from the surge onto the new one, instead of adding 6 different "flat head screwdrivers" that are shitty tools you'll never use. It's a flat head screwdriver you only need 2 different sizes 3/16 and 1/4 inch.
I can't get over how many flat heads there are... Even the Awl is a flat head... Wtf? Also a comparison with the Surge would have been better
0m3n Possibly. BUT, the Wave is the tool that I have and is what most people have.
For real, the only flathead screws I ever deal with are electrical outlet coverings.
You must not do much work lol.
Flatheads kn everything, housing outlets etc. Mowers carburberaturs, 4 wheelers, firearm maintenance, etc etc.
Chriiiispy good. Nice review man. I'm waiting for mine to show up in the mail. Kinda feels like a downgrade from the wave. No removable bit driver is a bummer
Not really sure if I consider this a downgrade yet. I'll definitely be doing a 6 month follow up to this video. I should know by then.
Having not bought it yet, the P4 seems to tick all the boxes for me - not too big (the Surge is too much for my purposes), one handed access to all tools including pliers which should be a blessing when using with gloves, and meatier scissors. I carry a separate file in my bag and my work requires the pliers and various cutting tools much more than it ever needs screwdrivers, so I can live without the big file and the bit kit - though I'd have preferred they were there of course. For me it seems to tick every requirement easily which none of the other Leatherman tools do.
Man the package opener doesn't offer much more that just a flat by itself, plus putting it on the a pry tool means it wouldn't stay sharp for very long anyways. The ruler is too short, the awl isnt pointy, and the file doesent look nearly long enough for anything serious, plus it doesn't have that dark metal color indicative of a properly hard file. I think the new form factor is great, but they really missed the mark on tool usability. Im sticking with my charge+
The 3 of the 4 extra tools are screwdrivers and the P4 is not bit kit compatible. I’ll take my Wave+ (replaceable wire cutter is the difference to your Wave) over the P4 any day just for Bit Kit compatibility.
I was trying to flick off that one hair on the top right at the beginning of the video until it went away.
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I don’t see it but I have 3 cats walking around here. So, yeah that makes sense.
@@ChrispyThings LOL... @0:25 on the upper right hand corner on the black background.
Zone07 Oh! That’s not a hair, it’s the pull cord for my shades tucked into my curtains. If you watch the end it’s there too. I do that because my cats mess with it too much so I hide it. Lol. Thanks for pointing it out. I’ll try to hide it better.
Leather man oht is my favorite.
I’ve owned both. The Wave automatically loses in my book because it always pinched my hand between the blade and the file/saw. That being said, I wish the P4 was just a fully one handed version of the Super Tool 300 because the short file is useless, the awl having a driver on it makes no sense whatsoever, a small ruler is pointless, and multitool size scissors are worthless for anything more than trimming stray strings off your clothes
The wave for me is better and my go too tool.😁for EDC 🙊
The serrated blade has notches on it.
I am definitely hyped for the K series. I think the K2 is gonna be perfect.
Absolutely. As mentioned in the video I was thinking about the K4X but the combo blade is putting me off.
@@ChrispyThings I wonder if the blades themselves will be replaceable or interchangeable with each other. Maybe theres different options available for the k series. I'd really hope so because that would be a no brainer buy from me. Heres hoping!
Pixeleyes00 We’ll see. I don’t have a date for that release yet.
There’s gimping on the serrated knife side of the wave, the standard blade does not, that’s how you know what “side” you’re on.
I would imagine that the magnets collect an enormous amount of pocket crud over time. Makes me wonder about the durability of the P2/P4. Love the vid but I think I will be buying another Wave.
I keep it in the case it came with and haven’t had any issues with crud in the magnets yet
Chrispy Things that is good. I am not able to carry a belt holster for my current Wave and it collects a fair amount of pocket crud/lint. I use a bit of compressed air to clean it out. I was trying to invision how that would work with the P2/P4. I was really excited about the release awhile back and love the idea. Time will tell though.
themasterhammer After using it for a while now it’s still my go to multi tool. I just wish the metal file was longer. And no interchangeable bit driver! Ugh