Man Zac is such a natural interviewer when talking with someone about an object. No awkward situation where one person is holding the tool and the other wants to show something and there's a weird grab/handover. Everything just felt so fluid in this video. Great to see.
Yer. seems a bit of a gimmick really. the OHT is better as a one handed tool (as the name implies) and has spring pliers, which I'm shocked haven't made it onto their new "revolutionary" models. The easy open tools where the bit I thought was best, but causes issues as you say. I'd like to see then introduce handle tools that are free swinging when you depress the tool unlock catch on the wave, meaning they'd be locked in place both open and closed.
Yeah, I think they loosened the torx screws to make them easier to open. I have the P4 now, it's great, it doesn't open that easily out of the box, but if you loosen the torx screws it will.
@@EternalAmmonite if you find a kick on the secondary market yeah, at least as of a few months ago. It's discontinued so they can't replace it with another Kick
You had me until you said, "... It has non-metallic springs." The magnet will pick up metal filings.... Stick to your car keys and pocket change.... I think it will be annoying. Imagine using the file on metal and all the filings getting caught in that grid pattern they put on. I'll stick with my WAVE.
I agree. I'm a welder, if I'm cutting or grinding anything, I'm gonna have metal flying everywhere. Magnetic tools are terrible for people that work with metal
IAm2Beast4This i actually love vg10 but i doubt you’d ever see it on a us made knife, but I’d gladly pay around $100 to upgrade to a legit super steel like 20cv, I’d have no reason to carry a separate knife, i think that would be a game changer to a lot of knife nuts
Spyderco has been using BD1N a lot lately on some of its lower-priced knives. It seems pretty tough with good wear resistance for the price category - it would make a good multitool blade steel.
8:14 - if you're hard core enough to have your own work shop, do you really use a multi tool in there? To me, a multitool has always been just been a 'jack of all trades, master of none' emergency replacement that you use on the go when you don't have access to your real tools
None of them have bit adapters...... So what could have been 40 different tools is instead one size of phillips driver. Leatherman... You're going backwards
my wave has a proprietary bit adapter and it came with an extra set of reversible bits. i'm pretty sure the first thing i did with the wave was lose those extra bits.
I have carried a leatherman for my whole life and i can say honestly the bit adapter is more hassle than its worth. I would prefer tools that are attached. If i wanted to carry a kit i would use a toolbox instead.
Right? They tout the advantages of replaceable wire cutter blades, but how about when you're in a pinch trying to loosen a stuck bolt using the phillips screwdriver only to start rounding off the edges?
I was totally gassed for these but no spring loaded pliers is a deal breaker. Having them self open when I only have one hand is amazing. I know I can finagle them with one hand but once you own a spring loaded one it's hard to go back. That simple feature has saved me lots of cuss words.
Re: Suggestions for S30V (*and* D2, etc.)... Just a pretty bad idea, IMO. Why would you sacrifice toughness, resistance to blade edge chipping, and ease of repair and maintenance for enhanced abrasion resistance on a moderately hard use, *occasional* (if, by some measures, fairly frequent) use type of multitool??! If you're going to be cutting up yards & yards of dirty carpet or stacks of boxes, and you're going to choose a *multitool* for that kind of job (?!), I might infer you still have a lot to learn about craftsmanlike efficiency and choosing the right tool for the job. Not picking on you, Paul. You've got lots of company here also mentioning S30V. All of you might benefit from some further research... and ask yourself: Why would cousin alloy S35VN need to have been developed in the first place as an *explicitly* more practical alternative -'upgrade' to S30V for mostly *light duty, EDC pocket clip folders* for average users (or just barely "users") among, specifically, mostly knife hobbyists? Do you grasp my point? P.S.- Regarding others' suggestions for an upgraded alternative alloy...: "D2"... really??! These guys think a semi-stainless or non-stainless blade alloy makes sense on this kind of tool? You're gonna rinse, wipe down, and oil regularly, immediately after use... like some knife hobbyist-collector showing his love for an object of devotion? Seriously? I concede that if you can live with some pitting, corrosion, and maybe, some oxidation product schmutz rubbing off now and then onto a work object, you *might* not care about my caveat. But why would you *want* to take on that compromise when there are numerous cost effective 'stainless' (
Frederick J. I agree, it shouldn't be an expensive super steel, but there are better options than 420. At least some of the tools such as blades, files, saws, scissors and similar ones should be 440 C or some other steel you mentioned.
I think the main deficit in steel selection and heat treatment with respect to the other tools would be use for the file(s). I recently got into Swiss Army knives for the purpose of having a versatile, cost effective (yet stylish and fun) second knife option on hand to *complement* my main EDC folder of the day. Relatively weighty, pliers-centric multitools are not what I myself need (semi-retired, tools at home). What I have noted after extensive trawling through eBay auction listings, and examining my own purchases, is a pretty conspicuous lack of evidence for concern about how Victorinox and Wenger's tools (*and* blades) might be expected to hold up against serious damage or meaningful compromise in performance ••. Therefore, I can't be very critical of Leatherman's choice for the other tools... though, of course, unusually hard users of their multitools might have a different perspective. I am rather put off, though, about how much silliness has been spouted in this thread over "420", as if argument against naïvely impractical suggestions for an "upgraded" blade alloy (M390, Cruware, Elmax -- seriously?! 😖) made one at once an *advocate* for the 420-something Leatherman has chosen. Who is saying with any enthusiasm that they're giving a big 👍 to that alloy over any number of other possible low cost steel options available? Some coherent logic please, folks (?). Sigh... •• Re: the SAKs... I *have* noted in my unscientific sampling one hard to miss regularity -- that older examples tend to function more smoothly, with better characteristics of back spring tension, plus their having a superior level of finish in certain respects compared to present production. I'm happy as a clam when newer is better; but I gotta call 'em as I see 'em, and in the case of longtime produced SAKs, I wasn't exactly surprised by my experience. I got pretty lucky, BTW.
Frederick J. Yes, super steels are not cost-effective (and neither are they needed) on multi-tools. A SAK is my preferred all-round tool since childhood. Besides the occasional bend knife tip or broken spring on the scissors there was one other incident that made me question the steel choice. The screwdriver was messed up by a screw that was apparently made out of superior steel. I was a little heartbroken tbh, for that screwdriver had a nearly universally useful size/ shape. For the most part these steels will suffice, but I'd like to see some upgrades, even just selectively for specific tools.
Love the new designs of the Free series, but if this is being marketed as the best of the best of Leatherman they should upgrade the blade steel. S30V maybe?
I think they've kept 420 because of it's corrosion resistance- which is probably more important than edge retention to most of their customers that aren't knife/gear nerds. And it keeps the price
Yeah I get that but but they run S30V in the Charge TTI. And if that is overkill why not then meet in the middle with something like 154CM. They run that in the Skeletool CX. Maybe even just have blade upgrades options for those that want them.
@@wpenman3 I wouldn't be surprised if they introduced CX versions of the K series if the models sell well. I also expect that after testing the waters this year we will see at least one model of the P series get the Charge treatment.
@@Rushil69420 I gotta say, when you make a knife like the K series, you need good steel because the people who buy knives are much more steel conscious. The primary tool is the knife and it must be tough and hold an edge. S30v is corrosion resistant, but the priority is edge holding and toughness.
When I was a kid, I had to have that Leatherman PST tool from Shotgun News 25 years ago. Eventually gave that to my buddy who needed a tool. Leatherman is and always will be the best. Best customer service hands down. Replaced my 1st gen Wave no question. They sell enough tools to people that will never ever test them, to be able to replace absolutely abused ones for free. I like to think that my beat up tool helped their engineers make the new ones better.
Jeez, they're even using 420 on the full sized knives. Hard pass. Even just good old D2 on their tools would be a step up. I love the design on the new full sized plier tools but that steel has to get better or there's no way I'm buying one. I'll gladly pay extra for D2 or BD1 or 154CM, but come on guys it's 2019 and you expect me to buy 420 for that price?
agreed, the very first blade I got was a mini grip with 154CM, and that was 12 years ago. My last leatherman charge came with the same steel as well and I haven't purchased a knife with lower steel ever since. The 420HC blade will be worn out in couple years if cutting box day in and out as I did, for that price, I would expect it comes with at least VG-10 or 154CM
Leatherman please hear me, 420HC blade steel is old news! I will not buy these for that reason alone! I own a charge with 154cm... you have s30v in the building... charge 30 dollars more for a premium blade steel so this can be someone’s work knife!
They don’t care. The wave outsold the charge by so much it’s not on their radar. They will make an upgraded steel model eventually but it will probably be considerably more expensive. Most leather man users don’t care about blade steel. I love my charge but I love my surge with 420 just as much. The knives cut great on both.
I got my Dad a Leatherman Super Tool for father's day one year and he hardly ever carried it only because he wasn't carry anything on his belt. He passed away in 2007 and I got the Super Tool, I carry it every day at work and mainly just use it to pull items out of my tires(I'm a truck driver!) It is in super great shape! I can't remember what year it was purchased but wish I could just to know how long it has been around. My Dad was a toter of the famous 3 blade Old Timer in which he had both size models of it! I'm super excited about the new models and will probably have to purchase several of these items! Thank you Leatherman for making awesome quality products in the USA!🇺🇸
I like how he was impressed by the tweezers in the T4. Like, have you seen a Swiss army knife? The T series, honestly, look like bulky Victorinox knives.
These are really interesting, curious how the magnetic feature holds up over time. I was expecting a higher price too so $40-$120 was nice to hear. Still think I'll opt for a sp300 or rebar.
Expensive gimmicks is not what they used to be about. I will probably never buy another leatherman. I have the charge and I haven’t seen anything lately that is enough better to justify the cost. They make a nice product, but how many do you need?
Umm...I’m super excited about the ones on the right! I carry a knife regularly for what I need and have needed other tools. But because of the lack of convenience for blade deployment, I rarely carried a multi tool. Now I am going to have the solution! Awesome!
Put a toughness lacking, prone to chipping, hard to repair and maintain steel alloy on a tool like this, and it's a deal breaker immediately for me, anyway... at any cost. Not to mention that S30V performance varies out there in the field and is, à priori, fairly unpredictable in behavior, manufacturer to manufacturer. Are you even considering Leatherman's largest prospective customer base for this kind of tool?? Hint: *Not* mostly "collectors".
Frederick J. Are you considering the fact that the steel they have on this and most of their multi tools (420HC) is shittier than every version of CPM-S30V? I’m aware of what I’m talking about, and clearly I know the market if I got 6 likes. Leatherman has shitty steels on all of their knives/multitools, their simple upgrade is 154CM, which is fine, but 154CM is more difficult to sharpen than CPM-S30V. I don’t think you took into consideration that Leatherman isn’t just going to be handing out shut heat treats like they’re coupons.
Love Leatherman's quality and commitment to pushing the envelope, but they really need to step up their knife steel game. I'm not asking for a super steel at $120, but even something like 440c, AUS8, or 8crmov would be a huge improvement over 420 imo.
Shouldn't the P2 & P4 be compatible with the 42 Bit Kit & Extender? The new line should expand on the original, where's the famous Leatherman bit driver or a new improved version of it?
They will probably make them compatible with the bit kit and extender, but first they want to test the water by selling a bunch of the first batch of tools, once the complains and suggestions start coming in, they will start re-designing by adding or replacing the small tools. This is called "business tactics" -
@@JensenAzotea I'm not too picky when it comes to blade steels (my CRKT collection is proof of that). I'm happy with AUS-8 or 8cr as long as the price is reasonable.
About time Leatherman! I was seriously starting to doubt your commitment to innovation and was going to jump ship. You may well have saved this company with this line!
yeah.... i want an optional blade for each products. i'm using new surge. their 420hc blade edge hardness SUCKS. i want a 440C optional blade, no ore 420. they are expensive but sucks
Before I leave the house each day I pat myself down asking the same question. Phone, wallet, keys, and leatherman? It's been over 15 years and three leathermans later I am on the Wave. One thing remained the same....my original black leather case. Until last week when I had to retire it because I was afraid my Wave was going to fall out. That old ragged case not only was a badge of honor but had soul. I would never carry a nylon case and wish you made a leather case even as an upgrade option. I think you fail to realize how important that element is. After scouring etsy I finally found a guy who made a leather case that was built with the same quality as my original. Last week I wore it for the first time and the only regret I have is the brass button doesn't say leatherman and there is no gold "Leatherman" scrolled horizontally down the face. Love the innovation and evolution but don't forget the soul that leather offers.
The magnet is a no from me, I do alot of work in IT an magnets with sensitive computer components is a no go. Also it sounds like they brushed off the whole metal shavings problem. So you are suposed to clean it got it so what do I do between when I use it getting it full of shavings and when I get home to clean it? Just deal with shavings in my pocket or bag? All for a su substantial price increase compared to other leatherman tools... no thank you...
you clean it with a finger he said. you have to focus your shakras to make your hand more magnetic than the multi tool so all the filings jump to your finger
@@KB-mo3sx good point, but to be fair it's also possible to re-magnetise, and there's the 25 year warranty. i'm keen to see the long term reviews in a few years time...
and by that i mean a proper review, not like most of the guys i see who say 'this is my tool i carry it every day and it gets some serious use' before pulling their leatherman out of a pristine creaseless pouch, looking all brand new and spotless.
@@cliveramsbotty6077 It will be hard to re-magnetize individual pieces and i want to use my multi-tool, not send it to the other side of the planet for repairs. You can give your Leatherman hard life without damaging the pouch, trust me, I know ;-). For me if it doesn't have large bit driver it's almost useless for everyday carry since I have a toolbox in my car. And I work with steel machining, so anything magnetic is a no-go for me.
Interesting, but magnets mean it's out as an option for folks who work on electronics, medical equipment, etc that is sensitive. I suppose in fairness, it's not going to be their main tool, but I use my original Wave an awful lot even with a proper tool kit. I REALLY wish there was an upgrade option for a better steel blade. 3v would be my preference in a utility blade. If Leatherman TRUELY wants to field a multi-tool "game changer", then they need to have a fully interchangeable, customizable tool where you pick your chassis, then choose what tools you want from pick lists for each location. Something that the end user can order replacement parts to either repair, reconfigure or rebuild at home, with the option to send it back in to have the work factory done. Until then, I really don't see any "game changers" in the Multitool world since we expect the sort of new tricks for an old dog progression of new models with technical and aesthetic changes, but basically offering the same functionality as far as resources at hand, and a "take it or leave it" prepackaged component set.
This is gonna change my life in a couple months, I carry a leatherman wingman daily for a variety of tasks, as it has the easiest tools to open, the free line looks like it will make those troubles a thing of the past. take my money now haha
I love the Supertool 300. What I hate is when the handles get so loose that the jaws stay closed when you pull the handles apart, as the handles pivot before the jaws open. What would be a BIG innovation would be to be able to replace individual tools or maybe select from an array of options so the user can configure it the way they want. And, to be able to tighten the handle/pliers joint. I have had Leatherman on my hip since they first came out, Wore out more than I can remember. Have 300 series since they first came out. Use on the job everyday. Don't go anywhere without my 300 and a flashlight. Just a fantastic device for on-the-spot quick solution to so many issues that arise.
My Leatherman Supertool 300 is still functioning like day 1 after purchasing it in 2011. I love it but it is rather very heavy and this new magnetic tool retention feature in these new products is definitely perking my interest.
I have many leatherman waves, I call it my third nut and use it all day, I even made a friction fit leather case that I can remove in a second, only problem I have is the replaceable eye glass bit that is hard to buy in bulk every time I break it, wish they were stronger and could buy them in bulk. Have to order more again, other than that I love the durability and warranty has always been amazing.
i want a optional blade.....420 really SUCKS. even 440c is much cheaper and much better. i dont requir even s30v or 154cm. just even upgrade for 440c may be satisfied for me. 420,'s blade edge is too weak.
I'd be perfectly happy with 440c for a working knife. Im not interested in paying a premium for super steel. China is making some really good 440c that is comparable to the old Buck 440 that everyone loved. Or hell, Swedish Sandvik is also super cheap for knife makers who buy in bulk, and also well tested and loved.
I'm definitely going to check them out. Thanks for the heads-up. But I have to say: I've been carrying one or another Leatherman for decades, and all of them ( yes, ALL of them) are openable with one hand. When you get them you invest a little time working some oil in and slightly loosening the pivot points for the pliers. Very slight loosening, working it a few dozen times with some oil and presto! None of them has needed any further adjustment after many years of use.
Expert advice. Leatherman has bet on the easy opening of the pliers and easy access to the tools. I do not think that speed of access to tools should take precedence over functionality. All this does not add features, features as obvious as expected. In addition, the blade and bit adapters are gone. In terms of easy opening of the pliers, we will think about the opening (almost) as easy of PowerLock or PowerAssist of SOG. Side holster, the offer becomes more and more indigent in the image of the competition. As far as steel quality is concerned, I imagine that better equipped models will be distilled afterwards, just to increase sales. It's ingenious, it's clever but it does not seem to meet the demand of demanding users. And I add, as one speaker pointed out, that with all these magnets, all the metal particles will tend to agglomerate on and in the multi-tool.
I also agree with the idea of diezelle57. In addition, the one hand opening pliers reminds me of SOG's products and the surface non-slip handle of the products reminds me of VICTORINOX ALOX. I expected a lot of new things, but this year's new products are not very interesting ~!
Yeah, I'm in some agreement here. I didn't know the bit adapters have been removed. That makes it much less appealing to me as an HD tool and makes it more like a Squirt with big pliers LOL. --- I think these tools are aimed at soft grey Urbanites who don't want to scuff up their pedicure. Easy opening one handed is nice, but the fact that its done with magnets...Hmm. --- K tool is going to sell well, but I won't buy one because of the crappy blade steel which has always been a Leatherman weakness. --- Finally, I HATE the new sheath color, and I've always thought the Leatherman sheaths were crap, but this is a new low. Proves to me that the new tools are for gray side-walk people.
@@Googalite Thank you for your opinion. But I have to correct you on the following points: - Leatherman frequently uses 154CM and S30V, - the Leatherman sheaths were, with those of Victorinox, the best designed, with a lot of variation, unlike those of Gerber and SOG but, it is true, Leatherman did not understand the interest to continue to propose sheaths to five compartments even though he finally realized that it needed a specific housing for the extender :)
These look awesome. The only thing is that they punked out with the cheap 420 blade steel. Lots of us will still have/want to carry a proper folder. I like that P4 the best. Offer the top one of each series with S30V blade steel and step up to the big leagues. They're already ahead of their competition; why not be a QUANTUM LEAP ahead?!
Had my Kick for 15+ years. I feel uncomfortable if I don’t have it on me. I actually wore it on my belt at my wedding. 🤪 I broke the jaws on a nail stuck in some jarrah once, and sent it in - got it back from the States to Aus within 3 weeks!! 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
I believe the steel is like 56 HRC, so it's pretty hard. I think the metal is harder than channellock pliers. The only thing that needs better steel is the knife, the file, and the pliers teeth. making anything else on it any harder would be pointless. That's for the surge anyways, I'm not sure about the newest multitool.
Very nice I do like leatherman and use mine daily however I always thought the future of multi tools will be customized tools where you can pick the tools that you get and as long as it fits the body you can get it I'd pay extra for that feature. I like the T4 it would replace my swiss army knife. Dont know if I could give my wave plus up although the P4 looks pretty good.
It's a good idea, but I think a new company would have to offer it. If Leatherman offered a build your own tool it might kill their business model because it would be hard to justify making new tools when they should only be innovating on the modular platform. A new company however, could make a name for themselves in this space by making a well designed modular tool and building on the same platform year after year and only designing new "base models" every few years.
My Leatherman Wave does exactly what that new one does. The only reason it does that is because it's called 7 years of use and getting used in your everyday. Sure it would be nice to have a tool that opened up with one hand right out of the package and I suppose that's what people be looking for. Hence the reason it was created and I think it looks pretty nifty, if anything I need to buy some more tools that I can attach to my wave
I run a surge but those cutters refuse to cut fine wire, the width of the pliers tips is too narrow for use,and they will bend aside from eachother when working, the small flat blade they put in around the time they removed the spectacle screwdriver is useless, I never once used the spectacle screwdriver on glasses, but it had a daily use in other ways on appliances, these guys are losing their direction. You don’t own a knife to show it to people. I don’t like where they are going with the longer screwdriver bits in terms of shape, it renders them useless to actually undo recessed screws, they could have punched a 1/4” hex into those tools to allow bits to be used like the leatherman crunch... I don’t see the competition doing things better, but to put out piles of inadequate tooling that you can show people. isn’t going to see great things...think about the leatherman tread, no magnet on that, might have been usefull... put a 1/4” ratchet on that, could have made it a realistic screwdriver, even allowing your own bits to fit the sides of the tread and stay locked in there could have been something, instead you make it with none of that. My skeleton stays well hidden from sight as it twists too much to be useful, the crunch has 3 flat blade screwdrivers on it, fit a bit holder to it. Make the cutters actually cut wire, on all your models. Fire the guy that designed the signal, and the team that thought a whistle was a nice touch on it too.
“people will see that grey sheath and know this is the best...” really? 420 steel was the best you could do? don’t get me wrong, i absolutely love the one handed opening and easier access to tools, but i’ll stick with my 154cm skeletool and s30v charge ti... get better steel in there, then you’ll get my interest.
We don't need 1% Carbon blades on a Multi-Tool. I know we all love our specs, I'd pay extra for Maxamet if they could work with it, but 99.999% of Leatherman owners do not care about high end steel. People want "Cost Effective" steel, and 420HC fits the bill, so there is still a chance we're getting decent blades, it's just a good question whether or not this is actually good 420 or crappy 420.
Bud The Cyborg i'm people, i'm a multiple leatherman owner, i don't care about cost effective, i want/need better steel, so add me to the 0.001% lol not sure if you read the comments section, but half the replies are "ewww 420 steel" so i'm not sure where you're getting your stats from (probably your ass) but rest assured, the people want better steel ;)
@@smartassmart Just watching this video automatically puts you into the 0.001%. You are not the target demographic of this product. Go ask Sal to make your ideal Multitool if you want high end steel.
Bud The Cyborg i think watching this video means you're interested in leathermans... i doubt they're investing money in reps and booths at major events and take the time to give interviews with one of the biggest online knife distributors in the states just for a chance at maybe reaching 0.001% of potential customers. this video has gotten a quarter million views within a week, how many people do you realistically think are buying leathermans if a quarter million people is only 0.001% of their market? again i think your made up stats are vastly skewed. i've owned a dozen leathermans in the past, i currently have 4 on rotation, i've also bought at least a dozen as gifts, if i'm not their target demographic then they're doing a really crappy job. but anyways none of this changes the fact that according to most opinions (including my own) that a steel upgrade would equate to more sales.
I'm sure they'll come out with a replaceable blade with better steel like they did with the skeletool, or a "different" tool like the charge ti vs wave, which comes with a better blade.
Thislooks terrific. There should be a warning that magnets can cause problems with mechanical wrist watches. Strong magnets can cause the watch movement to run erratically, or even stop.
Not gonna lie, in my opinion seems super gimmicky. I love OHT tools, but flipping a tool seems like a huge safety issue. The price tags on both of those tools at 120 and 80 can get you a brand new wave, which in my opinion is the best tool on the market. I beat the piss out of my wave, and that thing is finally to the point where I'm looking for a new tool. Mind you I bought a wave 9 years ago, and it's always been on my belt since. The little tools are kind of cool, but basically it's Leathermans take on a SAK, with a higher price tag. The only pro I can see on the new line, again in my opinion, is everything is available without the need to open the tool itself. But Gerber did that already with the suspension, which is also way cheaper. Sure it's not 420 steel, but even 420 isn't the best steel.
I am so glad that I bought an Expanse e33T (with 154CM steel) years ago. Leatherman hasn't made knife that good since the Expanse was discontinued. I have the Skeletool CX and the Wave as well.
I'll be honest...i was really hoping that Gerber's 'Center Drive' was going to push Leatherman in the direction of *industry standard 1/4 bit drivers.* These new ones are neat, i guess, but they dont really solve any problem (for me at least), and the tool selection on them looks like something i would get in their budget line [Wingman/Sidekick/Rev]. Not very impressive looking, just different. Being able to flip my plier open is cool, but not really some big problem (again, for me, calm down), and i really dont have a problem getting to the little tools on any of my other LM's. Im really not trying to knock their stuff, i do think they are neat, and if they offer them cheaper than the Wave/Charge/Surge..than they might start to make more sense to me. I just think the *industry standard bit drivers* was a legit problem, that would have been cool to see Leatherman, the masters of multitools, to solve, and not secede that territory to Gerber.
@@loki8284 I literally use almost every tool on my Wave+ & Surge, all the time. Great tool set for me. But Leatherman had a real opportunity to upgrade their Wave/Charge/Surge series to 1/4 bit drivers...instead of.... *this*. Is disappointing to me to say the least.
Blade HQ is doing a fantastic job covering ShotShow 2019!!
I was just thinking the same thing. It's like you're walking around the show yourself.
Focusing was enojing
Shotshow… it's really kind of an unfortunate name. Slip one key to the left once, and it doesn't sound like it's worth attending anymore…
"Brad, quick get me the pliers! Faster...faster you peasant! Flip it out! Damnit Brad, the old nail in the wall is getting away, hurry!"
Bursted into laughter so hard I had to wipe my phone with a sleeve
Can't wait to get my hands on that P4. 🤘
Cant wait to see what you think about it, love the videos.
me neither it's really getting me
You couldn't have been more right! Drooling... Pure dope. 🤟
Anyone know what kind of watch the Leatherman rep was wearing?
What ki d of watch is he wearing?
Man Zac is such a natural interviewer when talking with someone about an object. No awkward situation where one person is holding the tool and the other wants to show something and there's a weird grab/handover. Everything just felt so fluid in this video. Great to see.
OH BOY! Excited to actually get new Leatherman Models this year!
Did anyone notice at at 4:40 when zac flip opens the multi tool, the tool spring out as well.
Yer. seems a bit of a gimmick really. the OHT is better as a one handed tool (as the name implies) and has spring pliers, which I'm shocked haven't made it onto their new "revolutionary" models. The easy open tools where the bit I thought was best, but causes issues as you say. I'd like to see then introduce handle tools that are free swinging when you depress the tool unlock catch on the wave, meaning they'd be locked in place both open and closed.
Seems like it is because the handle hit the table causing the tool to come out.
Yeah, I think they loosened the torx screws to make them easier to open. I have the P4 now, it's great, it doesn't open that easily out of the box, but if you loosen the torx screws it will.
Well this is by far the best shot show video so far! We need more multi tools on the channel!
Leatherman warranty is one of the best warranty I have ever seen handsdown.... keep up the great work.
All I wanted is a discount on a Wave+. You can keep that magnetic stuff and make the Wave more viable.
Buy a kick for 30 bucks, break it, send it to LM, recieve Wave as warranty replacement
@@skengbiscuit279 lifehacks
Try ebay, and there may be a wave + with a good price. The replacement tool is the 2nd gen wave, not a +.
@@skengbiscuit279 does that actually work?
@@EternalAmmonite if you find a kick on the secondary market yeah, at least as of a few months ago. It's discontinued so they can't replace it with another Kick
Had me right up to 420 steel.
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What’s wrong with 420 Steel?
Eh who cares, Leathermans are great for their other tools, plus I'm pretty sure most people also carry a dedicated pocket knife anyway.
@Jacob Dawson That would be expensive as hell, plus pretty sure they make an all titanium version. What's vanax though?
@@stevendeary502 wet toilet paper holds a better edge than 420 steel, not to be confused with 420hc which is actually quite good
Leatherman currently winning Shot show!
Absolutly!
You said it!!
I wasnt sure how that could be, but then i finished the video. Leatherman is on to something here.
Great showing guys but for the love of everything that is good stop putting 420 in all your blades give us the option to upgrade
Anyone know what kind of watch the Leatherman rep was wearing?
You had me until you said, "... It has non-metallic springs." The magnet will pick up metal filings.... Stick to your car keys and pocket change.... I think it will be annoying. Imagine using the file on metal and all the filings getting caught in that grid pattern they put on. I'll stick with my WAVE.
change as in coins are nonmagnetic in almost all coins
I agree. I'm a welder, if I'm cutting or grinding anything, I'm gonna have metal flying everywhere. Magnetic tools are terrible for people that work with metal
Welder here aswell. Magnets suck and no spring action pliers makes a "welper" much better. Happy with my oht tho eaven if its to heavy
@@johanstorbjork6564 love my OHT
I dont like the permanency of the screwdriver. Im happy with the surge.
Awesome designs, but it is 2019. Time to upgrade that 420 steel...
Absolutely. Time for VG-10 or S30V.
IAm2Beast4This i actually love vg10 but i doubt you’d ever see it on a us made knife, but I’d gladly pay around $100 to upgrade to a legit super steel like 20cv, I’d have no reason to carry a separate knife, i think that would be a game changer to a lot of knife nuts
@@IAm2Beast4This I think S30V may be a little pricey still, but VG-10, D2, or similar on the cutting parts should be doable without jacking the price.
Spyderco has been using BD1N a lot lately on some of its lower-priced knives. It seems pretty tough with good wear resistance for the price category - it would make a good multitool blade steel.
Agreed. Wouldn't be so bad if their heat treat wasn't terrible, but here we are....
8:14 - if you're hard core enough to have your own work shop, do you really use a multi tool in there?
To me, a multitool has always been just been a 'jack of all trades, master of none' emergency replacement that you use on the go when you don't have access to your real tools
None of them have bit adapters...... So what could have been 40 different tools is instead one size of phillips driver.
Leatherman... You're going backwards
my wave has a proprietary bit adapter and it came with an extra set of reversible bits.
i'm pretty sure the first thing i did with the wave was lose those extra bits.
I have carried a leatherman for my whole life and i can say honestly the bit adapter is more hassle than its worth. I would prefer tools that are attached. If i wanted to carry a kit i would use a toolbox instead.
I love my wave and bit kit.. got mine in the molle sheath with a little olight aaa flashlight.. Brilliant edc use it all the time
I thought the same... I lost my old surge and I was very excited for this new FREE P4 but the lack of bit adapter is bad. I would buy a surge.
Right? They tout the advantages of replaceable wire cutter blades, but how about when you're in a pinch trying to loosen a stuck bolt using the phillips screwdriver only to start rounding off the edges?
I was totally gassed for these but no spring loaded pliers is a deal breaker. Having them self open when I only have one hand is amazing. I know I can finagle them with one hand but once you own a spring loaded one it's hard to go back. That simple feature has saved me lots of cuss words.
STEEL, upgrade-able it to something like CPM-30v as an option for BETTER edge holding
Re: Suggestions for S30V (*and* D2, etc.)... Just a pretty bad idea, IMO. Why would you sacrifice toughness, resistance to blade edge chipping, and ease of repair and maintenance for enhanced abrasion resistance on a moderately hard use, *occasional* (if, by some measures, fairly frequent) use type of multitool??!
If you're going to be cutting up yards & yards of dirty carpet or stacks of boxes, and you're going to choose a *multitool* for that kind of job (?!), I might infer you still have a lot to learn about craftsmanlike efficiency and choosing the right tool for the job.
Not picking on you, Paul. You've got lots of company here also mentioning S30V. All of you might benefit from some further research... and ask yourself: Why would cousin alloy S35VN need to have been developed in the first place as an *explicitly* more practical alternative -'upgrade' to S30V for mostly *light duty, EDC pocket clip folders* for average users (or just barely "users") among, specifically, mostly knife hobbyists? Do you grasp my point?
P.S.- Regarding others' suggestions for an upgraded alternative alloy...: "D2"... really??! These guys think a semi-stainless or non-stainless blade alloy makes sense on this kind of tool? You're gonna rinse, wipe down, and oil regularly, immediately after use... like some knife hobbyist-collector showing his love for an object of devotion? Seriously?
I concede that if you can live with some pitting, corrosion, and maybe, some oxidation product schmutz rubbing off now and then onto a work object, you *might* not care about my caveat. But why would you *want* to take on that compromise when there are numerous cost effective 'stainless' (
Frederick J. I agree, it shouldn't be an expensive super steel, but there are better options than 420. At least some of the tools such as blades, files, saws, scissors and similar ones should be 440 C or some other steel you mentioned.
I think the main deficit in steel selection and heat treatment with respect to the other tools would be use for the file(s). I recently got into Swiss Army knives for the purpose of having a versatile, cost effective (yet stylish and fun) second knife option on hand to *complement* my main EDC folder of the day. Relatively weighty, pliers-centric multitools are not what I myself need (semi-retired, tools at home).
What I have noted after extensive trawling through eBay auction listings, and examining my own purchases, is a pretty conspicuous lack of evidence for concern about how Victorinox and Wenger's tools (*and* blades) might be expected to hold up against serious damage or meaningful compromise in performance ••. Therefore, I can't be very critical of Leatherman's choice for the other tools... though, of course, unusually hard users of their multitools might have a different perspective.
I am rather put off, though, about how much silliness has been spouted in this thread over "420", as if argument against naïvely impractical suggestions for an "upgraded" blade alloy (M390, Cruware, Elmax -- seriously?! 😖) made one at once an *advocate* for the 420-something Leatherman has chosen. Who is saying with any enthusiasm that they're giving a big 👍 to that alloy over any number of other possible low cost steel options available? Some coherent logic please, folks (?). Sigh...
•• Re: the SAKs... I *have* noted in my unscientific sampling one hard to miss regularity -- that older examples tend to function more smoothly, with better characteristics of back spring tension, plus their having a superior level of finish in certain respects compared to present production. I'm happy as a clam when newer is better; but I gotta call 'em as I see 'em, and in the case of longtime produced SAKs, I wasn't exactly surprised by my experience. I got pretty lucky, BTW.
Frederick J. Yes, super steels are not cost-effective (and neither are they needed) on multi-tools. A SAK is my preferred all-round tool since childhood. Besides the occasional bend knife tip or broken spring on the scissors there was one other incident that made me question the steel choice. The screwdriver was messed up by a screw that was apparently made out of superior steel. I was a little heartbroken tbh, for that screwdriver had a nearly universally useful size/ shape. For the most part these steels will suffice, but I'd like to see some upgrades, even just selectively for specific tools.
Initial impression is that Leatherman hit it out of the park!
Love the new designs of the Free series, but if this is being marketed as the best of the best of Leatherman they should upgrade the blade steel. S30V maybe?
agreed ae and im sure they could do it with out uping there price they should cut profit and just sell more to make up for it
I think they've kept 420 because of it's corrosion resistance- which is probably more important than edge retention to most of their customers that aren't knife/gear nerds. And it keeps the price
Yeah I get that but but they run S30V in the Charge TTI. And if that is overkill why not then meet in the middle with something like 154CM. They run that in the Skeletool CX. Maybe even just have blade upgrades options for those that want them.
@@wpenman3 I wouldn't be surprised if they introduced CX versions of the K series if the models sell well. I also expect that after testing the waters this year we will see at least one model of the P series get the Charge treatment.
@@Rushil69420 I gotta say, when you make a knife like the K series, you need good steel because the people who buy knives are much more steel conscious. The primary tool is the knife and it must be tough and hold an edge. S30v is corrosion resistant, but the priority is edge holding and toughness.
When I was a kid, I had to have that Leatherman PST tool from Shotgun News 25 years ago. Eventually gave that to my buddy who needed a tool. Leatherman is and always will be the best. Best customer service hands down. Replaced my 1st gen Wave no question. They sell enough tools to people that will never ever test them, to be able to replace absolutely abused ones for free. I like to think that my beat up tool helped their engineers make the new ones better.
Wow i actually want that free p4, ive been only using my rev and sidekick since i can edc them but i love the bali flip
I wont carry a multitool without a pocket clip, glad to see they included one!
Jeez, they're even using 420 on the full sized knives. Hard pass. Even just good old D2 on their tools would be a step up. I love the design on the new full sized plier tools but that steel has to get better or there's no way I'm buying one. I'll gladly pay extra for D2 or BD1 or 154CM, but come on guys it's 2019 and you expect me to buy 420 for that price?
agreed, the very first blade I got was a mini grip with 154CM, and that was 12 years ago. My last leatherman charge came with the same steel as well and I haven't purchased a knife with lower steel ever since. The 420HC blade will be worn out in couple years if cutting box day in and out as I did, for that price, I would expect it comes with at least VG-10 or 154CM
Absolutely love Leatherman's personal touch when it comes to customer service. Never disappointed me so far! Looking forward to the new line!
Why do people keep talking about their customer service? Do these things break so often that it's something you're likely to have to deal with?
Well looks leatherman is getting a couple of my paychecks this year. Great job covering shot show blade hq!
Nice to see Leatherman bringing some of it's production back to the USA
Leatherman please hear me, 420HC blade steel is old news! I will not buy these for that reason alone! I own a charge with 154cm... you have s30v in the building... charge 30 dollars more for a premium blade steel so this can be someone’s work knife!
They don’t care. The wave outsold the charge by so much it’s not on their radar. They will make an upgraded steel model eventually but it will probably be considerably more expensive. Most leather man users don’t care about blade steel. I love my charge but I love my surge with 420 just as much. The knives cut great on both.
I was actually interested in every product they showed. Leatherman won Shot Show.
The Leatherman Juice S2 (original) is still the best EDC multi-tool ever made.
Too bad they discontinued it...
No it was the charge
I got my Dad a Leatherman Super Tool for father's day one year and he hardly ever carried it only because he wasn't carry anything on his belt. He passed away in 2007 and I got the Super Tool, I carry it every day at work and mainly just use it to pull items out of my tires(I'm a truck driver!) It is in super great shape! I can't remember what year it was purchased but wish I could just to know how long it has been around. My Dad was a toter of the famous 3 blade Old Timer in which he had both size models of it! I'm super excited about the new models and will probably have to purchase several of these items! Thank you Leatherman for making awesome quality products in the USA!🇺🇸
I like how he was impressed by the tweezers in the T4. Like, have you seen a Swiss army knife? The T series, honestly, look like bulky Victorinox knives.
Hats off to Leatherman for bringing some innovations to the table. Definitely looking forward to trying these out.
These are really interesting, curious how the magnetic feature holds up over time. I was expecting a higher price too so $40-$120 was nice to hear. Still think I'll opt for a sp300 or rebar.
I'm in for every single one of those tools. Leatherman is just nailing it every time.
Damn, looks like Spending responsibly in 2019 just went out the window
If they don’t overprice these as they have the rest of their line, these tools look amazing!!! Great job leatherman. Best multitools at the show
I love the new free line. BUT I would love to see the K series knife blade with s30v or 154cm. Hopefully they will make a premium version next year.
My skeletoool has cm 154 so it’s not like they’ve never had it.
@@johnnybeanz1296 So does my Charge plus. I think its definitly in the cards. It's just a matter of time.
Expensive gimmicks is not what they used to be about. I will probably never buy another leatherman. I have the charge and I haven’t seen anything lately that is enough better to justify the cost. They make a nice product, but how many do you need?
Umm...I’m super excited about the ones on the right! I carry a knife regularly for what I need and have needed other tools. But because of the lack of convenience for blade deployment, I rarely carried a multi tool. Now I am going to have the solution! Awesome!
Leatherman needs a premium line. Titanium and S30v!
Leatherman charge TTI
The charge tti is great.
My old Wave literally saved my life and I'll never give it up but things look good at Leatherman!
Upgrade that knife to S30V and I’d love to add it to the collection
Put a toughness lacking, prone to chipping, hard to repair and maintain steel alloy on a tool like this, and it's a deal breaker immediately for me, anyway... at any cost. Not to mention that S30V performance varies out there in the field and is, à priori, fairly unpredictable in behavior, manufacturer to manufacturer.
Are you even considering Leatherman's largest prospective customer base for this kind of tool?? Hint: *Not* mostly "collectors".
Frederick J. Are you considering the fact that the steel they have on this and most of their multi tools (420HC) is shittier than every version of CPM-S30V? I’m aware of what I’m talking about, and clearly I know the market if I got 6 likes. Leatherman has shitty steels on all of their knives/multitools, their simple upgrade is 154CM, which is fine, but 154CM is more difficult to sharpen than CPM-S30V. I don’t think you took into consideration that Leatherman isn’t just going to be handing out shut heat treats like they’re coupons.
At least D2 or VG-10. Anything but 420.
I think the TTI has that steel
@@joshuadebroize8891 yeah, the Charge +TTI has an s30v blade. That's a nice tool!
Love Leatherman's quality and commitment to pushing the envelope, but they really need to step up their knife steel game. I'm not asking for a super steel at $120, but even something like 440c, AUS8, or 8crmov would be a huge improvement over 420 imo.
Shouldn't the P2 & P4 be compatible with the 42 Bit Kit & Extender? The new line should expand on the original, where's the famous Leatherman bit driver or a new improved version of it?
They will probably make them compatible with the bit kit and extender, but first they want to test the water by selling a bunch of the first batch of tools, once the complains and suggestions start coming in, they will start re-designing by adding or replacing the small tools. This is called "business tactics" -
I started carrying a Leatherman products in the 90s and I never leave home without out it. Excited about the new products!
K4. A pocket knife with scissors and a screwdriver. Give it a flipper tab and that might be the perfect EDC.
Simucom Reviews and better blade steel!
@@JensenAzotea I'm not too picky when it comes to blade steels (my CRKT collection is proof of that). I'm happy with AUS-8 or 8cr as long as the price is reasonable.
About time Leatherman! I was seriously starting to doubt your commitment to innovation and was going to jump ship. You may well have saved this company with this line!
I can't wait to ballisong my new leatherman😂
I work in construction and I've had my Kick as a daily work tool for nearly 10 years now.
Why can’t we get different blade materials? Loving the designs but would like to have different blade materials
Because it's just a beater.....it's a tool for work..... Never use your knife for prying. That's for children....
I agree i want to see a super steel or something
@@STERLING430 Have you ever used a Bark River made of A2 or 3v?
@Mister B all of my tools are tools. No such thing as a bester if you use the right tool for the job.
yeah.... i want an optional blade for each products. i'm using new surge. their 420hc blade edge hardness SUCKS. i want a 440C optional blade, no ore 420. they are expensive but sucks
Never really been a Leatherman guy, but I'm seriously interested in this new line.
very exciting new stuff!
Hey Jeff!
Before I leave the house each day I pat myself down asking the same question. Phone, wallet, keys, and leatherman? It's been over 15 years and three leathermans later I am on the Wave. One thing remained the same....my original black leather case. Until last week when I had to retire it because I was afraid my Wave was going to fall out. That old ragged case not only was a badge of honor but had soul. I would never carry a nylon case and wish you made a leather case even as an upgrade option. I think you fail to realize how important that element is. After scouring etsy I finally found a guy who made a leather case that was built with the same quality as my original. Last week I wore it for the first time and the only regret I have is the brass button doesn't say leatherman and there is no gold "Leatherman" scrolled horizontally down the face. Love the innovation and evolution but don't forget the soul that leather offers.
The magnet is a no from me, I do alot of work in IT an magnets with sensitive computer components is a no go. Also it sounds like they brushed off the whole metal shavings problem. So you are suposed to clean it got it so what do I do between when I use it getting it full of shavings and when I get home to clean it? Just deal with shavings in my pocket or bag? All for a su substantial price increase compared to other leatherman tools... no thank you...
you clean it with a finger he said. you have to focus your shakras to make your hand more magnetic than the multi tool so all the filings jump to your finger
@@cliveramsbotty6077 And if it's magnetic it can get demagnetized.
@@KB-mo3sx good point, but to be fair it's also possible to re-magnetise, and there's the 25 year warranty. i'm keen to see the long term reviews in a few years time...
and by that i mean a proper review, not like most of the guys i see who say 'this is my tool i carry it every day and it gets some serious use' before pulling their leatherman out of a pristine creaseless pouch, looking all brand new and spotless.
@@cliveramsbotty6077 It will be hard to re-magnetize individual pieces and i want to use my multi-tool, not send it to the other side of the planet for repairs.
You can give your Leatherman hard life without damaging the pouch, trust me, I know ;-). For me if it doesn't have large bit driver it's almost useless for everyday carry since I have a toolbox in my car. And I work with steel machining, so anything magnetic is a no-go for me.
Finally bought a Wingman, my first Leatherman. The overall quality and ease of opening the tools is very high.
Interesting, but magnets mean it's out as an option for folks who work on electronics, medical equipment, etc that is sensitive. I suppose in fairness, it's not going to be their main tool, but I use my original Wave an awful lot even with a proper tool kit. I REALLY wish there was an upgrade option for a better steel blade. 3v would be my preference in a utility blade. If Leatherman TRUELY wants to field a multi-tool "game changer", then they need to have a fully interchangeable, customizable tool where you pick your chassis, then choose what tools you want from pick lists for each location. Something that the end user can order replacement parts to either repair, reconfigure or rebuild at home, with the option to send it back in to have the work factory done. Until then, I really don't see any "game changers" in the Multitool world since we expect the sort of new tricks for an old dog progression of new models with technical and aesthetic changes, but basically offering the same functionality as far as resources at hand, and a "take it or leave it" prepackaged component set.
Magnets mess up a mechanical watch. A deal breaker.
This is gonna change my life in a couple months, I carry a leatherman wingman daily for a variety of tasks, as it has the easiest tools to open, the free line looks like it will make those troubles a thing of the past. take my money now haha
t series? im unsubbing
Lol
I heard that and came here to see how many people commented on that
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So excited about what Leatherman is doing.
Best video of 2019 blade show by far
I love the Supertool 300. What I hate is when the handles get so loose that the jaws stay closed when you pull the handles apart, as the handles pivot before the jaws open.
What would be a BIG innovation would be to be able to replace individual tools or maybe select from an array of options so the user can configure it the way they want.
And, to be able to tighten the handle/pliers joint.
I have had Leatherman on my hip since they first came out, Wore out more than I can remember. Have 300 series since they first came out. Use on the job everyday. Don't go anywhere without my 300 and a flashlight. Just a fantastic device for on-the-spot quick solution to so many issues that arise.
Hope they improve the scissors spring. It's useless on my wingman
A Leatherman Wave P4 style = dream multi-tool !
you forgot to ask him whats in his pocket
He was too jazzed!
he's just happy to see him
A Victorinox, maybe??
My Leatherman Supertool 300 is still functioning like day 1 after purchasing it in 2011. I love it but it is rather very heavy and this new magnetic tool retention feature in these new products is definitely perking my interest.
Such cool designs! What's up with some 154cm or s30v blades though?
I have many leatherman waves, I call it my third nut and use it all day, I even made a friction fit leather case that I can remove in a second, only problem I have is the replaceable eye glass bit that is hard to buy in bulk every time I break it, wish they were stronger and could buy them in bulk. Have to order more again, other than that I love the durability and warranty has always been amazing.
420 steel👎
He ment 420HC same stuff on buck 110s
@@deadseasteve3804 I think it's time for leatherman to upgrade the steel on there tools. 420HC sucks when it comes to edge retention
Not quite the same, Steve, if it doesn't get the same premium heat treatment. Do we know what Leatherman is doing now in this respect?
@@frederickj.7136 Okay Mr. Know it all. It's basically the same thing
@@frederickj.7136 leatherman has been in house heat treating 420HC for over 20 something years, trust me they got it on point.
Leatherman just unleashed the Victorinox killer!
420 is a joke! Please offer a premium version with better steel!
i want a optional blade.....420 really SUCKS.
even 440c is much cheaper and much better. i dont requir even s30v or 154cm. just even upgrade for 440c may be satisfied for me.
420,'s blade edge is too weak.
Just buy an aftermarket Damascus steel blade from Texas Toolcrafters. Problem solved.
@@urbanjungle9600 I don't want damascus, I want a super-steel like CPM20CV or even CPM3V.
I'm sure better steels will roll out later in this product line's lifetime.
I'd be perfectly happy with 440c for a working knife. Im not interested in paying a premium for super steel. China is making some really good 440c that is comparable to the old Buck 440 that everyone loved. Or hell, Swedish Sandvik is also super cheap for knife makers who buy in bulk, and also well tested and loved.
I'm definitely going to check them out. Thanks for the heads-up. But I have to say: I've been carrying one or another Leatherman for decades, and all of them ( yes, ALL of them) are openable with one hand. When you get them you invest a little time working some oil in and slightly loosening the pivot points for the pliers. Very slight loosening, working it a few dozen times with some oil and presto! None of them has needed any further adjustment after many years of use.
Expert advice.
Leatherman has bet on the easy opening of the pliers and easy access to the tools.
I do not think that speed of access to tools should take precedence over functionality.
All this does not add features, features as obvious as expected. In addition, the blade and bit adapters are gone.
In terms of easy opening of the pliers, we will think about the opening (almost) as easy of PowerLock or PowerAssist of SOG.
Side holster, the offer becomes more and more indigent in the image of the competition.
As far as steel quality is concerned, I imagine that better equipped models will be distilled afterwards, just to increase sales.
It's ingenious, it's clever but it does not seem to meet the demand of demanding users.
And I add, as one speaker pointed out, that with all these magnets, all the metal particles will tend to agglomerate on and in the multi-tool.
I also agree with the idea of diezelle57. In addition, the one hand opening pliers reminds me of SOG's products and the surface non-slip handle of the products reminds me of VICTORINOX ALOX. I expected a lot of new things, but this year's new products are not very interesting ~!
The Leatherman seller seems more eager to make nunchaku with the new multi-tool than to show its features! :)))
Yeah, I'm in some agreement here. I didn't know the bit adapters have been removed. That makes it much less appealing to me as an HD tool and makes it more like a Squirt with big pliers LOL.
--- I think these tools are aimed at soft grey Urbanites who don't want to scuff up their pedicure. Easy opening one handed is nice, but the fact that its done with magnets...Hmm.
--- K tool is going to sell well, but I won't buy one because of the crappy blade steel which has always been a Leatherman weakness.
--- Finally, I HATE the new sheath color, and I've always thought the Leatherman sheaths were crap, but this is a new low. Proves to me that the new tools are for gray side-walk people.
@@Googalite Thank you for your opinion.
But I have to correct you on the following points:
- Leatherman frequently uses 154CM and S30V,
- the Leatherman sheaths were, with those of Victorinox, the best designed, with a lot of variation, unlike those of Gerber and SOG but, it is true, Leatherman did not understand the interest to continue to propose sheaths to five compartments even though he finally realized that it needed a specific housing for the extender :)
Blade gone? The bits are great to have, saved me many times on my Charge Ti.. would miss those.
I need that K4 in my pocket as soon as possible. It looks truly fantastic.
These look awesome. The only thing is that they punked out with the cheap 420 blade steel. Lots of us will still have/want to carry a proper folder.
I like that P4 the best. Offer the top one of each series with S30V blade steel and step up to the big leagues. They're already ahead of their competition; why not be a QUANTUM LEAP ahead?!
Had my Kick for 15+ years. I feel uncomfortable if I don’t have it on me. I actually wore it on my belt at my wedding. 🤪
I broke the jaws on a nail stuck in some jarrah once, and sent it in - got it back from the States to Aus within 3 weeks!! 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
I actually collect Leatherman I love the company but damn please stop with the cheap ass steel
I believe the steel is like 56 HRC, so it's pretty hard. I think the metal is harder than channellock pliers. The only thing that needs better steel is the knife, the file, and the pliers teeth. making anything else on it any harder would be pointless. That's for the surge anyways, I'm not sure about the newest multitool.
Knife guy's like: 420 STEEL!!! WTF!!! love my charges. Leatherman is my choice.
When will Leatherman ever make a multitool that has a s30v blade that isn't $180... one can hope
Will they ever make a heavy duty tool with s30v??? I'd love a surge with s30v
trix4free That’s what I am actually waiting for! 👍 A Surge with a S30V blade, I hope Leatherman reads these posts too!!
My mouth is watering for the Free series! They seem absolutely perfect.
K4, toss in a main blade with some really nice higher end steel, (S30 or better) and you’ve got a massive home run.
It’s like a ‘Butterfly knife’
Very nice I do like leatherman and use mine daily however I always thought the future of multi tools will be customized tools where you can pick the tools that you get and as long as it fits the body you can get it I'd pay extra for that feature. I like the T4 it would replace my swiss army knife. Dont know if I could give my wave plus up although the P4 looks pretty good.
kayok07 That would be cool
It's a good idea, but I think a new company would have to offer it. If Leatherman offered a build your own tool it might kill their business model because it would be hard to justify making new tools when they should only be innovating on the modular platform.
A new company however, could make a name for themselves in this space by making a well designed modular tool and building on the same platform year after year and only designing new "base models" every few years.
@@jayjayhooksch1 Actually that may be the reason. Never thought of that
My Leatherman Wave does exactly what that new one does. The only reason it does that is because it's called 7 years of use and getting used in your everyday. Sure it would be nice to have a tool that opened up with one hand right out of the package and I suppose that's what people be looking for. Hence the reason it was created and I think it looks pretty nifty, if anything I need to buy some more tools that I can attach to my wave
I love my surge!!!
The K4 is for me! beautiful combination of big knife and some tools!
Still waiting for the electrician Leatherman
I too would love something like that for work. Something with wire strippers and proper terminal crimpers.
Yes, strippers, a #2 robertosn bit, and a good file as well
I run a surge but those cutters refuse to cut fine wire, the width of the pliers tips is too narrow for use,and they will bend aside from eachother when working, the small flat blade they put in around the time they removed the spectacle screwdriver is useless, I never once used the spectacle screwdriver on glasses, but it had a daily use in other ways on appliances, these guys are losing their direction. You don’t own a knife to show it to people. I don’t like where they are going with the longer screwdriver bits in terms of shape, it renders them useless to actually undo recessed screws, they could have punched a 1/4” hex into those tools to allow bits to be used like the leatherman crunch... I don’t see the competition doing things better, but to put out piles of inadequate tooling that you can show people. isn’t going to see great things...think about the leatherman tread, no magnet on that, might have been usefull... put a 1/4” ratchet on that, could have made it a realistic screwdriver, even allowing your own bits to fit the sides of the tread and stay locked in there could have been something, instead you make it with none of that. My skeleton stays well hidden from sight as it twists too much to be useful, the crunch has 3 flat blade screwdrivers on it, fit a bit holder to it. Make the cutters actually cut wire, on all your models. Fire the guy that designed the signal, and the team that thought a whistle was a nice touch on it too.
Leatherman squirt Es4 thanks me later, i working with electronic projects and it works greattt
I gotta get my hands on a P4! I think Leatherman nailed it with that smooth one handed open. The whole line looks very appealing.
“people will see that grey sheath and know this is the best...” really? 420 steel was the best you could do? don’t get me wrong, i absolutely love the one handed opening and easier access to tools, but i’ll stick with my 154cm skeletool and s30v charge ti... get better steel in there, then you’ll get my interest.
We don't need 1% Carbon blades on a Multi-Tool. I know we all love our specs, I'd pay extra for Maxamet if they could work with it, but 99.999% of Leatherman owners do not care about high end steel. People want "Cost Effective" steel, and 420HC fits the bill, so there is still a chance we're getting decent blades, it's just a good question whether or not this is actually good 420 or crappy 420.
Bud The Cyborg i'm people, i'm a multiple leatherman owner, i don't care about cost effective, i want/need better steel, so add me to the 0.001% lol not sure if you read the comments section, but half the replies are "ewww 420 steel" so i'm not sure where you're getting your stats from (probably your ass) but rest assured, the people want better steel ;)
@@smartassmart Just watching this video automatically puts you into the 0.001%.
You are not the target demographic of this product.
Go ask Sal to make your ideal Multitool if you want high end steel.
Bud The Cyborg i think watching this video means you're interested in leathermans... i doubt they're investing money in reps and booths at major events and take the time to give interviews with one of the biggest online knife distributors in the states just for a chance at maybe reaching 0.001% of potential customers. this video has gotten a quarter million views within a week, how many people do you realistically think are buying leathermans if a quarter million people is only 0.001% of their market? again i think your made up stats are vastly skewed. i've owned a dozen leathermans in the past, i currently have 4 on rotation, i've also bought at least a dozen as gifts, if i'm not their target demographic then they're doing a really crappy job. but anyways none of this changes the fact that according to most opinions (including my own) that a steel upgrade would equate to more sales.
I'm sure they'll come out with a replaceable blade with better steel like they did with the skeletool, or a "different" tool like the charge ti vs wave, which comes with a better blade.
Finally, left handed friendly tools!
will there be s30v blades available for all of these designs?
Thislooks terrific. There should be a warning that magnets can cause problems with mechanical wrist watches. Strong magnets can cause the watch movement to run erratically, or even stop.
Removable bit driver?
They have a bit adapter you can get on there website
@@anthonyl3517 not the same thing
These new knives really improved on the half juice knives. It embraces that the tool i mainly a knife while still having other features.
Not gonna lie, in my opinion seems super gimmicky. I love OHT tools, but flipping a tool seems like a huge safety issue. The price tags on both of those tools at 120 and 80 can get you a brand new wave, which in my opinion is the best tool on the market. I beat the piss out of my wave, and that thing is finally to the point where I'm looking for a new tool. Mind you I bought a wave 9 years ago, and it's always been on my belt since. The little tools are kind of cool, but basically it's Leathermans take on a SAK, with a higher price tag. The only pro I can see on the new line, again in my opinion, is everything is available without the need to open the tool itself. But Gerber did that already with the suspension, which is also way cheaper. Sure it's not 420 steel, but even 420 isn't the best steel.
Christopher Harpster Great analogy to the SAK, was thinking the same thing.
I agree, I run a Gerber diesel
Dont replace your wave. Send it in for the 25 year warranty and get a brand new one for free
Great, I have to buy them all. I liked them all. Thanks Leatherman. At least I’m single now and don’t have to hide my purchases!
Give me back the PS I and PS II series, simple, light weight, and affordable.
The Rebar is about as close as you can get now
I am so glad that I bought an Expanse e33T (with 154CM steel) years ago. Leatherman hasn't made knife that good since the Expanse was discontinued. I have the Skeletool CX and the Wave as well.
What watch does the leather man guy have on?
What he said ^^
Garmin Instinct according to another commenter
@@theplasticdesert2408 yes thats right!
Was waiting for that to be asked. Ha. Thanks
This is one of those, shut up and take my money moments.
I'll be honest...i was really hoping that Gerber's 'Center Drive' was going to push Leatherman in the direction of *industry standard 1/4 bit drivers.*
These new ones are neat, i guess, but they dont really solve any problem (for me at least), and the tool selection on them looks like something i would get in their budget line [Wingman/Sidekick/Rev]. Not very impressive looking, just different.
Being able to flip my plier open is cool, but not really some big problem (again, for me, calm down), and i really dont have a problem getting to the little tools on any of my other LM's.
Im really not trying to knock their stuff, i do think they are neat, and if they offer them cheaper than the Wave/Charge/Surge..than they might start to make more sense to me.
I just think the *industry standard bit drivers* was a legit problem, that would have been cool to see Leatherman, the masters of multitools, to solve, and not secede that territory to Gerber.
I use my multitool as a screwdriver more often than anything else, which is why I carry a Centerdrive.
@@loki8284 I literally use almost every tool on my Wave+ & Surge, all the time. Great tool set for me. But Leatherman had a real opportunity to upgrade their Wave/Charge/Surge series to 1/4 bit drivers...instead of.... *this*.
Is disappointing to me to say the least.
Wow, really cool products this year from Leatherman