2023 Nissan Z | An Honest Take
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- Опубліковано 8 лис 2022
- The Nissan Z featured in this video is the Z Performance Manual model which starts at $58,498 CAD ($49,990 USD). It makes 400 horsepower and 350 lb-ft of torque from a 3.0 litre Twin-turbo V6 engine. With car prices beginning to exceed the affordable limits... is this enough car for the money?
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We switched back to our old thumbnail style! Did you notice? 😁
Do the nismo next.
Yes! And it’s much appreciated. ❤😊
I like the old style! We know when it’s your video your thumbnail are unique
Nope. But new sub here, so I'll claim that. Good first vid for me to discover.
Yes man old thumbnail
You have to be in the thumbnail because you are part of the thumbnail
Dealer mark-up and interest rates are pretty insane right now. This is not a 60k vehicle. Better off waiting a few years when stuff corrects itself, and this car gets updated.
These are going to be future collectibles. Noone will buy these overpriced outdated half-assed pieces of shit so they will be super rare 30 years from now. Whenever Nissan had 2 choices during the building process, they said: Let's do the worst thing possible and demand a premium for it.
i bought my rs3 new in feb 2020 right before the covid spike for 63k
thats crazy it cost 65
@@maxmeier532 The twin turbos are much better than the first gens on the Q60...then the Q60 RS is a better car now than it was when it came out. The engine in this car is bullet proof. I have a 2012 Infiniti G37xS coupe (Red) with lots of bolt-ons and aftermarket bits and a tune. Next spring I'm doing a new tune with EcuTek and I'm currently tuned with UpREV Osiris V2. This new Z is perfect for the aftermarket. If you change a few things and dyno tune the vehicle you will add a lot of HP and TQ. You will end up with a solid, very reliable, fun to drive sports car. Did you know that up until a few years ago the Mustang didn't have rear independent suspension? Yup, they had a live rear axle. You won't get that kind of reliability from a Charger or a Camaro....
If I'm spending 60k I'll just go get a bmw
@@xorbitman Yeah it's a true tuner car, get lots of '90s early '00s vibes from how much power can be gained with a simple tune and letting it breath better. There's nothing wrong with that FM chassis for what it's designed to do and like you said all the kinks from the chassis and engine were worked out so it's more like a best off everything Nissan has done up to date, with an actual stick shift. While I'm not wild about the price, should be 5k USD cheaper, but a 300ZXTT was about 50k new, in '90s money. I'm just going to do the base&mod thing for now (I can buy a lot of goodies with that price difference, a lot!) and start saving for the Nismo and keep it stock for the fun Sunday car.
Being a 350z owner over 10 years ago, the 1st to 2nd shift was always stiff. 2nd to 3rd was perfect which made sense since thats when the power is really felt.
Yep same, I'm almost never in 1st for long I just shift to 2nd asap and leave it there, that's the CD009 life!
I had a 2006 NISMO 350Z bought new, had it for 8 years. LOVED that car. Kinda regret selling it. I wasn't really a fan of the 370Z. Passed on that one. But I LOVE this new Z. I'm going to wait until second year, and I also want to see what they do as far a s a NISMO car.
could be really buffed 1st and 2nd gear to handle torque
I own a 370z roadster. Yes 1 to 2nd gear are that way too. Maybe the guy in the video needs to drive other Zs to understand.
what kinda horse shit is that? that some cope
Dude, you in the trunk always gets me 😂
Another great vid, and cool car! In a world where the ICE is slowly fading away, we have to appreciate the ones that are still made, even with their quirks.
How does this man only have 150k subscribers?! Amazing production quality and great reviews. Well done!
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I dont kno why either. The quality of the video, the shots, the music, yet not many subscribers.
@@darleneanddonovan we’re trying! Thank you!
First time here; thank the YT algos on my search for that tonight... and hate them the last 4 yrs for the same lol.
*Underappreciated Channel
For me I love Nissan for their style. They can definitely produce some performance if they want to but like I said to me I’ve always loved the look of their cars. Especially their Z cars. My favorite looking one out of all of them is the 300zx. I’ve day dreamed about that car more than I care to admit, but I also loved the 240z and the 350z. So when I see this car, I see all the Z’s into one car so I appreciate its style, and that’s the reason why I would get one. Just so I can look back at it everytime I park lol
Good point, the front end is 240z (but kinda pointy) the rear end is 300zx which also had a sexy butt, and the side is 370z which I could do without :D
I second that one bro! Z32 fairlady Z is hands down my absolute favorite JDM car and possibly just my favorite car in general. I love cars so much it's hard to call just 1 car my genuine favorite of all time but it's definitely up there.
A midnight purple R33 400R is another one
@@codythomas123 true! All skylines go without saying. My favorite gtr of all time is the R34 but I love the r33 too. I also love the s15 too
I was a proud owner of a 1972 240Z. Bought it new for $3500. To this day it is the car I’ve had the most fun driving without question. I love the look of this car, except for the front grille, because it brings back so many memories. It was a sports car, not a super car. I wish I had heard more positive comments about the engine sound, suspension and transmission. If I purchased this car, I’d probably do the same things to it that you mentioned.
Have a 77 280Z. Had it for over 40 years. It's still fun to drive. I've done a lot of upgrades but stayed true to the Z heritage. Still can bang 2nd and 3rd gears with no problem. I love my Z.
I am a Nissan fan owning two 300zx Twin Turbos. I was disappointed that Nissan has not significantly improved in design and had higher engine performance with the 2023 model. The twin turbos I have, produce 550 and 600bhp with minimal changes to the engines. The Nissan GTR model could be a better buy. Thank you for sharing your point of view and feedback.
This Z has potential AMS performance has a video with upgraded turbos and made it a 9 second car
The 300 zx is beautiful. It's the only Z car that I found to be attractive.
Why are you comparing a modified 300ZX to a stock Nissan Z 🤦🏽♂️
Amazing videos. Your channel deserve more views. Keep up your great work.
Appreciate that
With the price point I have no idea who this car is targeted for…
The back looks like the old Nissan Z from 20 odd years ago. It’s cool that they are bring back that aesthetic. The car truly looks like the Z.
i will admit, my 04 g35 sedan is completely stock besides a CAI and my exhaust note is beautiful especially under full throttle. My catalytic converters are on the way out so it sounds louder than usual
This man really loves his job. His energy is very high and makes the video that much better
What a great review!
This channel is so underrated. These people deserve more.
We appreciate that a lot 🙏 thank you!
"Modern and Retro and it work in 2023" the fact that how Nissan make this car Retro and Modern at the same time, this is exactly how I feel about this car. Very good looking car.
I was looking for something thats loud. do you think a muffler upgrade or delete will help bring that sound out? would a 6'3" person fit in the thing?
As a previous owner of a Toyota MK4 twin turbo black 1994 Supra ( original owner ), and a current original owner of a 350Z Roadster 6 Speed manual wonly 40k miles on it- your "honest take" is, from what I can tell and see, Spot On.
I appreciate your honest take on how it drives, but there are some significant technical inaccuracies in this video.
This car doesn't use a chassis from 2002. It uses a chassis from 2009 (Z34) with some modifications. The 350 and 370z were built on different generations of the FM platform, and have different chassis codes. They shared almost no parts, and had substantially different wheelbases, track width, etc.... The main shared part was the manual transmission, which is also carried over to the new Z, with a few changes. People make the mistake of thinking the 370z was just a modified 350z, I guess because Nissan's design language didn't change much during that era.
This "new" Z has a lot more in common with the 370z at it's core than the 370 had in common with the 350z.
Also folks forget bout the optional nismo exhaust upgrade...sounds fantastic.
FInally found someone with a brain. The chassis is actually 60% different.
Wow. Incredible review. You have a new fan from Guelph!
Had a 2020 Si Coupe; same 1st to 2nd issue. I got it tuned and the problem faded but never went away entirely
That’s what O love about my 2000 … shift as fast as you can from 1st to 2nd and it won’t disappoint you …
For anyone skeptical on aftermarket stuff the q50 and q60 have already (almost) perfected it. Granted this car has a different ecu/tcu but overall nuts to bolts, the same.
Give Nissan credit for still including a stick and you can add an aftermarket exhaust if you think the note is too mellow. Good looking car indeed.
there will ne loads of aftermarket parts i thought mt 370 was too quiet so i upgraded my exhaust to the motordyne she sounds amazing now
Thx - I’ll keep my ‘19 Zed Sport manual.
Facts! It’s so mind boggling how most people think it’s ok to have an automatic sports car… like the R35 or the bmw Supra… though they came to their senses and finally made a stick version.
The nizmo exhaust sounds great….
That was as honest as it could get. The Z fkn sucks. Owned a 350 n 370z new. This one is the same price as a m240i which is FASTER and more practical.
RIP Z
No stick, no RWD
@@cosmic_gate476 F22 M240i comes in a stick and RWD and is just as fast. Not to mention the modding potential of the B58 it comes with. And looks a lot better than all of the garbage looking G-series models BMW has now.
@@Unicornpirate Only would consider an n55 m2. There's a mountain of improvements between the two that handily justify the price gap. Most notably the forged engine parts, LSD and wide body.
@@cosmic_gate476 Dude I drive a M2 Comp. I know about the improvements a proper M car brings to the table. But the F22 240i comes in a stick and rwd. That's all I am saying when you said no stick no rwd. Throw in a LSD, downpipe, tune and some suspension, wheels and tires and its pretty capable on its own. I plan on getting a Z though as I had a 350z before. But only when stealerships aren't marking them up.
Yes 🙌🏻
Nice review. It’s June in So Cal and I have yet to see any version of the Z. Which is fine as I’m not yet in the market for my next car. Sadly no Z has ventilated seats - which having now in my Mazda 6 I am spoiled on those hot days.
DAMN YOU MR. REVIEWER!!! As soon as you said it kind of looks like a grown up BRZ I cannot UNSEE IT!!!
The best thing about this sports car is its not a rebadged BMW lol😂😂😂😂😂
That's the worst thing about this car. I'll take a rebade BMW than a Nissan 😂
@@kobedabest rofl! Take it lol take all of it
@Thor Odin son like Nissan isn’t this car already had a few recalls overpriced garbage
I backed out on a deal on this recently the mark up was 18,000 from MSRP even though the dealer previously agreed on 9k mark up. Oh wells Toyota Supra or z4 I’m On my way
Whats the difference in acceleration between the 6spd manual and automatic? I know with the mustang GTs the automatic is actually noticeably faster than the manual version.
Great review, accurate, intelligent.
I'm sure there will be many aftermarket tunes for this that will bring it more life, like with most turbo charged cars.
The front end is fine. It just needs a more curvy grill opening. Or some side vents for brake cooling or something
I like your video review. Most video reviews are mostly all positive and little negative. Your videos, in my opinion , are unbiased.
Where do you go to see one of these cars? No nissan dealer around me has one on the lot.
Looks so good in that color.
solid opinion, thanks for sharing
Great video, I think you can tell they’ve planned for people to modify it. I’m already planning what to do with mine 😅
Yeah they knew what parts to put where from their bin and what to modify. Why spend R&D money on suspension and exhaust components that are just going to get binned anyway by us tuners when instead they can use it to improve the chassis further and giving us a turbo motor from the get go so power mods are cheap and easy. AMS is getting really impressive numbers from these motors!
Good review my friend!!!!
Thanks Jamie!
@@ACCELER8TV You kept it real....that's all folks can ask for. Honset opinion with some scientific proof if needed. You nailed it. I been pushin a Z since 2013. 2013 base model then traded to 2014 Nismo. 13 was cool had 419rwhp...14 has 575rwhp and it feels cool....not anything special.....the Z just feels like its missing a few things. Price driven so I get it....but damn what a waste of a car that could be great. Nissan just didn't get it right....Again!
Anyones honest take is subjective. But it is appreciated
That gunmetal color is sexy af ❤️
agree bro, it looks absolutely stunning!
I like the retro styling overall on this car, kinda reminds me of when the the FJ Cruiser came out and how it looked different then everything else on the road because of it's retro roots. The Z looks mostly really really good, I honestly think the door handles look a little off though, like they just don't fit the rest of the body. The exhaust note is definitely a bit of a downer but I think Nissan is on the right path with this Z...
Great video, I watched it to the end, I really enjoyed your honesty. I had a 240Z(1973} the last year that they made them. I loved that car, very simplistic.I can't remember what was paid for that car, but nothing compared to todays price. I can honestly say it was one of my best cars, handling was amazing. Thanks
I absolutely love the styling of this car. I'm sure they can pull out a proper performance version in the future if the market demands it. My lawdy that styling thoughhhhhhhhh
If they make a real performance version its gonna cost more than its competitors. The way it stands right now its already a hard sell. Plus Z cars are best when you buy the base and make it what you want. Nissan killed that idea pricing the base too high
Well if the 350z, 370z, and GTR is anything to go by, they will make a Nismo version of this car soon. Improved suspension, aero, a tune so more power and an exhaust. They already have Nismo brakes, suspension components, wheels, intakes and exhaust available for the car. Companies like AMS already have a FBO tune e85 car up and running with their parts. Plus there is already a fully developed GT4 race car from Nismo. Although the street version isn't gonna be anywhere near as close as that car. GT4 cars are a totally different animal.
@@Unicornpirate That would be an interesting car for sure. I don't know I feel like the criticisms are about performance (easy to fix) and price (who tf cares)... Strange to see so many comments re that putting this car over their competitors. Cars are art to me and their value purely subjective. The fact that it would be more than a Supra makes no difference to me about how I feel about the styling and character of this car.
@@AdamJDMartin IMO this car looks a lot better than the Supra. Nissan is offering enthusiasts a manual from the start and it doesn't have any fake vents. Also the Z has always been a tuner car. Nissan is giving a great canvas to start with and will let you do whatever you want after you buy it. They didn't lock the ECU like Toyota did on the 2021 model Supra and if styling is your thing, you can bet there will be a lot of body kits coming for this car. I personally can't wait to see what Amuse, Greddy, Top Secret and others do with the styling
Its a masterpiece especially the yellow one ☝️
I really love the backend of this car I just can’t stand the front of these z’s so conflicted. I have heard these cars with aftermarket exhaust and the engine sounds awesome as well.
Just needs a set of coilovers. Also, Nissan did a stop sale on the manuals due to synchro issues.
Gripes about a bunch of left out tech that just adds more weight to a sports car (struts for hood, wireless charging, cooled seats). All performance gripes will certainly be met with the Nismo version or easily addressed via aftermarket (which is what these cars are about, right?).
Be happy they are still offering a rwd 2 seater in 2023. I know I am. But I am still happy in my 370z Nismo. For now.
Finally! Honesty about it!
I'm 6'4... no way I fit in this car comfortably. I tried. I loved everything about it design wise other then that. Front end look's very good to me. Exhaust you can upgrade easily and I would get automatic if I wanted fast shifts. Too expensive and late on technology but very cool car.
Datsun 240/280Z was my dream car. Well it still is but this one is so much a legacy of the 280Z that is comes right behind x)
Love this garage
Truthfully I'm a Nissan lover but the price they asking for it, you have so many more better options available for less money
Is it the color gun metal?
To me this is a perfect project car . It’s odd that I would leave a dealership and go straight to the garage and modify interior, exterior, motor - trans, exhaust. But I can see some serious potential. Someone is going to show the power from a big boy turbo and make this car hard to find. Thx for this detailed vid👍🏼
$60k for a project car that you'll replace half the car?
@@erickirshner2810 my thoughts exactly, even if i had that level of financial freedom, i still couldnt justify it. You want a project car? pay half that for a used c6 vette and blow the doors off it
Is there a quality control issue WRT the body lines, fit, finish?
people making a big deal out of this car when technically it's a q60 red sport, no one really cared about the q60 but they add a Z badge and the world goes crazy
I agree but it just looks better
first to second seems to be an issue in the wrx as well... ive owned a 2017 and a 2020; they improved it a lot for the 2020 but its still noticeable. sucks to have to feel like you gotta compensate with your rev/clutch for the delay
Notch between second and first is that driver never go first again while driving. Same thing was on my old S13. Don't know about weight on new Z, but S13 knew to raise the front of the car in the air when it would get back in driving in 1st. :)
That color is so nice though!!!
It's funny you mention the 2nd gear notch. I have a 13 focus st and have the same thing where second is tight feeling while the rest of the gears are smoother
Very Professional review of a nice car ! Could you do a critical review of Subaru Impreza 2024 and focus on bringing back the MANUAL transmission PLEASE ?!
The back looks fantastic!
It's always been quite on the Z exhaust, this is what aftermarket bolts on are for the Z
Even nissan sells a nismo exhaust through a dealer option
a very good base for tuning.
Everyone knows when we get these cars we are NOT keeping them stock 😂
You're asking "High school kids" if they know how to "drive a manual?" The fact they know how to "drive" is a feat in of itself at that point in life - and its likely their parent's automatic transmission family car. So I don't know if you're going to schools in Saudi Arabia but in most parts of the world getting your first car, let alone a sporty manual transmission car, usually happens much later in life. And considering current world events, thats going to be much later and much rarer. :(
I’m mean they’re seniors. Most seniors in hs know how to drive nowadays. Usually and most likely an automatic tho. Now whether they can afford a car that’s a different story
Finally a review that is not simply a salesman pitch. Keep up the good work!
Definitely glad I got a Q60 over the Z. I think the Q 50/60 are going to be solid sleeper bases. Their tuner market has slowly been growing, and Z1 and AMS have been developing great parts
My 370z is a blast to drive. I can't even imagine the new nissan z.
Love the color.
If this car had the sound of the 350z , I'd be all in
I saw @HAGERTY review and from there you could say that the car 🚗 is made for Drifting Purposes. All nissan Z was performing well on Drifting Rings
Folks bitch bout Z cost cutting. At least it's pure jdm...Toyota cost cut by letting bmw do all the MAJOR work...smh.
43% of Nissan is owned by Renault and it shows. It's anything but pure jdm.
What color is this?
It's not the synchros, it's the transmission fluid.
Dump the OE fluid on the first day and put in what GM put into their Camaro manual transmission.
I've had a 300ZX, and a 350Z. I now have an 07 Cayman S but this new Z is the only car that could tempt me out of it....and tempting me it is.....
Tsk. I got mine in black thinking I'd hate the silver. I wasn't a fan of the other colors. The blue was ok, the red didn't do it for me, I personally strongly dislike the yellow... But seeing that Silver Z, it looks damn good and is making me regret the black paint.
You said "...Nissen Z!'😂😂😭😭
I thought I was the only one who heard it.😅😅
I am a huuuugggge Z fan. And I was soooooo excited about this. But honestly...it falls wayyy short of what I was expecting. For 60K you can get a lot more :/ And thats a shame because this was gonna be the first car Ive ever bought new. Twin turbo and it sounds like that??? Maybe you shouldn't have spent all your time on that ridiculous gas cap cover! But its cool...at least the manual seat adjustments are still in style...lol. And im just gonna throw this out there...and most of the sport cars fail at this..but what is the deal with the bottom of yallz cars? Like have you ever seen what a body kit does to a car? Why cant you give these sport cars a sexier bottom finish? Man I wanted one of these so bad. Loooong live the 240Z and the 94 300ZX Twin Turbo!
I'm in a border town right now. Quite a few people in their 20's can drive manual. Different culture I guess. Self sufficiency vs expecting everything to work for you.
I wonder how that exhaust sounds with active noise cancellation turned off...
Genuine question, where do you get the budget for such high production value
We are a team at Acceler8 - Mike hosts / brings the car knowledge and Ian does the filming & editing. Not a budget - just two guys passionate about cars.
@@ACCELER8TV can't put a price on talent! 💪
they already have a Z going 9 seconds on quarter mile... 719whp stock internals with different turbos and exhaust
what's for you isn't for everyone else. Who cares what u think. Quiet & smooth makes this a long trip cruiser w/room for drivers over 6' tall.
Soooooo happy they changed the steering wheel. the old one looked cheaper than the one in the lada
Hi,
This was a great video! I would buy a touring, automatic. I wouldn't ruin the car, learning how to drive stick. There has to be a tire option. And that's about it. Do I like the front grill? Nope, but the side, back and the performance, would supersede the front, mistake.
Great car, Great video.
All the best Shaun of NYC
Just to correct… The brakes are four piston front and 2 piston back.. 😊
I will absolutely miss the VQ exhaust. It was perfect in my opinion especially in the coupe because I think it was a little louder. The have toned it down a lot, here in America you can get a factory exhaust that will make it louder BUT it like a $1500 usd option and I guarantee no one is getting it bc no one will know about it. I'm sorry to say BUT I don't like the rear of this car. Not my taste, I can live with it.
I had a 300zx in high-school and it served me well lol I think this thing looks great, I'd tweak the exhaust and tune it a bit and it would purrr!
Most sports cars are way more powerful than what public roads can handle. So, if you aren't going to track the car, spend more money on a car with capacity you can't use??? The GR86 cost over $10k less, but still delivers 100% of the fun. (It's always funner to drive a slow car fast, than drive a fast car slow)....
Really? I don't think so. If you are just flooring it on the highway = boring. And if you are on the backroads, you aren't going anywhere near as fast as your car actually can.
I had that same issue with 1st to 2nd shift in my Nismo 370z
Car looks great.
Cool chan. Sub'd.
I think the Z store has done their homework and already has an OEM-approved set of Borla knockoffs to hone in that sound,,, for $1250, warranty-approved / dealer-installed. I further surmise this "S1 Exhaust" will be stock in 2-3 yrs. If the Nissan Co. hasn't thought that far into their portfolio, then shame on them for releasing a Z that sounds like my wife's 300hp minivan. 🤷♂
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the front is going to have a huge aftermarket to fix the look. would be cool I'd they release an anniversary edition with datsun where the nissan logos are.
I had such high hopes for this car:( but every reviewer so far has said the same issues with eh gears, lack of driving feel, and suspension. Looks great though.
The tires fade away anyway in first month or less and needs replacement so it’s not an issue 😂😂tnx for video
Already in Ontario? I never see it on the road ...
It's a press car from Nissan Canada. Not sure how many of them have been delivered to dealerships yet.