I'll be honest, as much as I love both games, there is one thing I don't like. The concept of "You win the fight, but still lose". It's understandable that you can't really win against Gro'goroth or God of fear and hunger. But against a machine? Come on... just break it and be done with it.
9:25 You're actually EXACTLY spot on, they are huddled together trying to shelter from the moon and the chaos it's brought to Prehevil. This is confirmed by talking to the one ghoul in there who can be talked down from fighting
To add further validity, look no further than the Neighbours. Sure, gross enemy in sewer, dime a dozen in the RPG genre as a whole, but in Fear and Hunger, why 'Neighbour'? Not to you, surely, you are merely visiting. The only context in which that name makes sense is to the residents of Prehevil, who still exist aside them, twisted beyond recognition. They seek shelter, but also community. Notice the difference in violence from the surface dwelling enemies to those beneath? They only wish to survive.
As a disabled person the segment on Olivia was so true, I was born able bodied but lost a lot of mobility due to a chronic illness I developed as an adult. Now I have days where I can’t stand or walk, I’ve had times where I’ve crawled up the stairs due to my pain and my legs being too weak to stand. Everything I do during the day has to be carefully planned and thought out. To anyone reading this who wonders what life is like as someone disabled - imagine you wake up in the morning and have 10 spoons, every task you need to do will cost you a certain amount of spoons, what will you do when they run out? Having to pick and choose your battles against either your own body (ie. Getting dressed, eating, working) or a world which isn’t yet fully accessible can be demoralising. It’s terrifying and pushing through it requires so much fortitude and so much time to plan things in a way that will impact you the least, and my lived experience is in a modern world. Olivia’s story is the one I relate to the most because I see so much of myself and my own struggles in her. Disability does not equal weakness, we all fight our own invisible battles, but often the way life is impacted by even the smallest things when you are disabled is something you would never think about unless it happened to you. But to anyone else out there dealing with a disability - you are strong, you are intelligent, and you have to keep fighting (to win some murder festival or to kick a disability’s ass) ❤
Awesome comment thanks for teaching me. I want to become successful one day and when i do, I will make sure I can make my things easy to access for people with illnesses and disabilities. Because it can happen to any of us
Giving Marcoh a meat grinder + leech ring + small things amulet then using pheromones and his dodge ability is how I finished the game for the first time. Pair it with a low-cost, spice forged heal spell and no enemy has a chance. I literally cleared the world out, and could run around freely. Felt so good!
About Stitches and Needles: After Stitches inspection, Needles one changes too (If you playing as Daan). He'll notice that Needles looks like Baron Van Dutch, and in theory, he (Van Dutch) sacrificed himself and Elise to Sulfur God, and maybe it gave them re-birth like that? Also, Daan sprite has a "recemblance" to them, Daan is pale too.
The people in the sewers are moonscorched. It even showed on your screen as moonscorched villager is down. I'd guess they are the remnants of the first festival that took the whole city. Then the Bremen got stuck in a festival, then the train.
The villagers in the sewer are the one's been moonscorched, they're just trying to survive and avoid being killed as they are despised by the unaffected. Also, you can talk them out.
You can talk with them. You need the skill "persuation" and choosing the right dialogues one of them will become non-agressive and will talk to you, he will say something different from the ones on the surface
The head collection point is quite fascinating, I never saw a game who was so insidious about changing your perception about how you see the npc and even the characters. You quickly go from empathy for their suffering to calculating how much they worth in soul stones and you do so almost subconsciously.
The lore is the best part and someone else does all the hard work of playing the game for these kinds of videos You don't need to play the games. They can be fun, mostly because of the random item loot mechanics. Works a bit like a slot machine. Get a broken item early? Lights flash, jackpot music, woop woop.
No Walk Good lmao. I'm an amputee myself, and that shit is funny. Ill probably never play this, so thanks for the explanations. It's all very interesting.
13:02 - (big spoiler ahead click "read more" at your risk) the statue shown here is modeled after Pazuzu, Mesopotamian spirit of South-Western wind. When you use Party Talk in Foundations of Decay, Abella states how the cave "smells like rotting eggs", which is basically the smell of sulphur. The zone name is possibly a reference to Bible quote Matthew 16:18. If you have O'saa in your party and get into the ground level of the church, he will give you the comment on how he doesn't feel Alll-mer's presence there. If you get into the church basement, you will see corpses littered everywhere, and the effigy pedestal with red sigils of Valefor, Astaroth and Crocell beneath its legs. If you use Talk and Persuade on Crimson Father in basement, he will reveal "the visions of torn flesh, taking a shape of an one-eyed god that burns in a pit of sulfur". When you get to the end of the game, it becomes clear that Sulphur God is the real boss behind all of this mess (who is basically Satan in game's pantheon), that the church has been desecrated head-to-toe by his cultists, and that Moon God Rher (or whatever is left of him) is just a puppet used to moonscorch people for Per'kele's sick amusement.
Had a strong enough run on my first playthrough to kill the heartless one. High enough defense and speed was key. Two turns so you can heal and attack every round. Counter helps wear down the sword arm.
You know, it's probably obvious, but I only just realized that the blue skin of the sulfur cultists could be a reference to cenobytes from Hellraiser. Shocker that a series with heavy torture and gore makes one think of that classic movie. Oh, and in ending A, I always make sure I leave the other party members behind, and take only the goat with me into the artificial green.
I think it really worked out well that I didn't know what it meant, that way I was completely oblivious when i was recording. At that point, i just thought it was some name the dev of the game made up
You pointed out the tin man in Pocket Cat's room, but there's a lion and a witch too and a doll you could say is Dorothy. It's a Wizard Oz reference, probably, but the weird thing is I can't find Toto (unless the bear thing beside the tin man is Toto?) or the scarecrow.
Wow i love your script! Your narration turns this list into a special story. The section about disability was really deep. Thanks for the hard work and sharing your thoughts
The Centaur is a marriage between a human and a horse (A marriage is the result of 2 living things making love with consent in a ritual circle in favor of the Old God Of Love and it fuses their body and soul)
If you revisit the room after Daan Moonscorched, it changes to suit him. The new room design is a scene that re-enacts the tragedy that changed his life
Yup. The dungeon of Fear and Hunger is in Rondon (either in real life France or Britain) while Prehevil is basically Prague (real life capital of Czechia). Those two place are far away.
Needles themselves is a reference to Art the Clown from Terrifier. Most notably, in the film, Art pulled a gun when they were disarmed after having been a more traditional slasher villain up until that point.
I think your musings about the priests appearing to be corrupted by their worship of Grogoroth is more on point than you might have thought. I think their smiles are very similar to the smiles of the Black Witch from Fear and Hunger 1, and if I remember the Black Witch used magic that requires affinity with Grogoroth. Maybe the priests are beginning to devolve into a form like what the Black Witch was.
i feel like having a big chunk where you talk about how cool it is to have a wheelchair bound character and how it makes you think about the challenges of that while also constantly having olivia named "NoWalkAllGood" is kinda odd.
The Heartless One also takes a good bit of its visual design from Omega's female form in FFXIV, Omega-F. Which makes perfect sense, as Omega is a machine life form programmed and designed to seek out and defeat only the strongest of opponents.
@@tacobanana_forever Even crazier, the boss in XIV takes both male and female forms, with...you guessed it, a katana and a staff as its weapons. Just like Heartless One.
See, I always figured Platoon was what happened to a tank platoon who got Moonscorched, and their Commander is still in control of them, ordering them around. Granted, her orders are no longer military oriented, since she's turned into the leather-bound grinning thing she is. Perhaps the platoon's devotion to her is what lead them to being fused together with each other AND their tank, while her wants and desires for control (of more things than just military) led to her form?
Is needles really not a nod to art the clown in the terrifier movies? He has a whip with blades and pulls out a pistol when he is wounded like in the first movie
Man i got so happy when i got the silent hill references while i was playing, the fog, the moldy building, the orphanage that is just like midwich school, good to see that alot of people got these refences too
These are a lot of fun to listen to in the background, as long as youre alone that is 😅. Wouldnt want to explain to my roommates or parents why I'm watching a video about fecal dogs and dismembered heads.
This happens to me often rn since I’m with my extended family for the holidays, and there’s no way I can explain to them how amazing the game is and why all the “edgy” stuff makes it special. Even w/ my girlfriend at home I’ll watch these with earbuds while I’m doing chores around the house bc she’d probably think I’m a secret serial killer for watching these 😂
I think the edgy stuff does kinda distract from the plot and characters, at least at a glance. I think the horror is cool and intriguing, but for me, it was the mystery of the fight between the gods and humanity, and the characters that really drew me in. Like "what is the machine god"
@@sayseriously hope you have fun. Also.. if you are looking for a retro game to scratch a Bloodbourne itch, check out Nightmare Kart on Steam (it's free)
I think the Machine God ending is quite bleak and harrowing. After all those tortuous encounters and puzzle solving you end up just being another empty shell permanently online and as a conduit for a greater being.
F&H enjoyers: this is just like berserk! F&H: is literally fighting a washing machine Edit: I’m at the first minute of the vid and every time i find out something new about this game my reaction every time is “what in the god damn fuck?!”
Very interesting video on an incredibly interesting game! Well done! Just wanted to point out that the Crow Chimera looks kind of similar to Karen’s Moonscorched form. Could it be that the Crow Chimera is tied to the military and how Le’Guarde basically tricked soldiers into thinking they were in Prehevil to help people or something? 🤔 Karen compares herself a lot to Valkyries, but her Moonscorched form looks like a literal bird, particularly a carrion creature. Maybe the Crow Chimera is actually a marriage between a bunch of soldiers?
That is a very interesting theory! I have no idea, I guess we might get more clues as the game gets updated. I think there's still a lot more content to come
10:10 lol those heads aren't gonna saw themselves 😂 get to work! 25:29 good message, very wholesome, and thoughtful, I appreciate that. 28:50 lol and that's why I like playing as the boxer Marcoh 😂
14:05 Prehevil is not built on top of dungeons of fear and hunger: Prehevil is situated in Bohemia (Czechia) and dungeons were situated in Rodon (France). It is unknown how Moonless got from Rodon to Bohemia, but it seems that she grew up in to that big monstrosity in Rodon, where Miasma was kept because I don't think she was impaled with Miasma while being small like in the first game.
I dont know how or why but hearing "hardened grind" reminds me of my first solo character as Marcoh vs an elite Bremen soldier. I was lucky enough to get ring of wraiths and salmonsnake while wise enough to get escape plan and bob and weave. I just pummeled on the thing til it stopped moving, and that was one of the most satisfying things for some reason. Im just regening in combat, getting shot occasionally, and beating some towering soldier emulating iron to death. Then i realized i liked this game.
@tacobanana_forever awesome!! When I'm done watching these videos about 20 nasty things from the games I will start watching those. Thank you so much!!!
100% The fact he has a make shift whip of pain as well as whips a gun out the second he faces trouble is absolutely a reference to Art doing the exact same thing.
We know Prehivel isn't above the Dungeons, even setting the geography aside, O'Saa was JUST in the Dungeons and obtained Nas'hara's head and went directly to the Termina festival.
Orange is an absolute master storyteller & the art/music perfectly compliment his ideas.. Personally, I think this is one of the greatest games ever made.
Hey so I have a question, given how horrible the 1st game is (I tried to play it but was too scared and wasn’t very good at it) would you say the 2nd game easier or harder in terms of difficulty, and is it more or less scary than F&H1? The games are really really fascinating but I can only seem to get myself to watch through bits of them rather than play them (1 more than 2 as 2 has only just landed on my radar). I refunded 1 when I realised I was scared by even trying to explore outside the dungeon because I knew the dogs were coming and I wouldn’t be able to beat them alone.
I hear ya, fair enough. The 2nd is overall more polished and less frustrating. I wouldn't say it's easier, but it's more accessible. Easier to save, less RNG (coinflips), less nudity and edgelord stuff, less dismemberment. Narratively, could go either way, I loved the creepy vibe of Prehevil and discovering what weird stuff is going on. So IMO it's about the same in terms of being scary, but it's a different type of scary
After seeing this, I believe there's ending S for any character - by not collecting the heads and still fighting the 3 bosses. Idk how, but I guess it's somehow possible.
I was fighting Sylvian trooper and Platoon today and failed a coin flip. And Platoon did nothing, he just has forgiven me it, lol. He did not miss, there was no sign of missing, he just didn't shoot. This is most probably a bug or I don't know something about the game, but it makes me think that the second part is much more forgiving than the first. Just compare: in the first part the enemy who hunts you across almost whole dungeon is Crow Mauler, who possesses one-shot Peck attack (with no coin flip, the character just dies) and another game ending attack that inflicts blindness (this is game over unless you have Isaiah's mask as you won't be able to navigate the dungeon). In Termina the enemy who hunts you is Needles, who literally can't kill you: if you "die" to him you just have all your debuffs removed, health, mind and hunger restored and moved to another location. The only consequence is your friends get killed, which is mostly beneficial if you want endings B or C.
Good point on Needles. And I completely agree, Termina has less rough edges and more friendly game design. If that's a good thing or not kinda depends on what experience you are looking for
Guys if you find it hard to get the courage to bonesaw a head in this game listen. Moonscorching has no cure, they are suffering and you become stronger so you can end this madness if you do so.
You know, when I heard "inverse centaur" I just thought it was the body of a human crawling on all fours with the head of horse or something and didn't understand the whole "what everyone thinks" comments. Then I actually watched what it looks like and... I get it now...
On the topic of drawing on inspirations from other sources: Good artists borrow, and great artists steal. That is to say if something works then it should be added to your tool kit, and it becomes yours. If people understand a work of art from one piece of media then putting something similar or the same will get the point across easily. Barber poles 💈 are universally accepted for barber shops and grooming, a spooky hotel with a serial killer does the same!
Please please please stop using ai art. You’re videos are amazing to listen to but that’s really all I can stomach doing because the ai art upsets me so much. Other than that it was an entertaining video but I just don’t like the ai stuff being incorporated for pretty obvious reasons
#2 its just Bellend, not Bell-end. As for what it means.. well I'm pretty sure the creator made this as a meme monster; "bellend" is taken from english slang and it means exactly what it looks like
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I'll be honest, as much as I love both games, there is one thing I don't like. The concept of "You win the fight, but still lose". It's understandable that you can't really win against Gro'goroth or God of fear and hunger. But against a machine? Come on... just break it and be done with it.
Give me one thousand dollar.
"Let's hope that Daan can find some peace after the events of the Festival of Termina"
Pocketcat enters the room
9:25 You're actually EXACTLY spot on, they are huddled together trying to shelter from the moon and the chaos it's brought to Prehevil. This is confirmed by talking to the one ghoul in there who can be talked down from fighting
Hurray! I wasn't completely off the mark
To add further validity, look no further than the Neighbours. Sure, gross enemy in sewer, dime a dozen in the RPG genre as a whole, but in Fear and Hunger, why 'Neighbour'? Not to you, surely, you are merely visiting. The only context in which that name makes sense is to the residents of Prehevil, who still exist aside them, twisted beyond recognition. They seek shelter, but also community. Notice the difference in violence from the surface dwelling enemies to those beneath? They only wish to survive.
really? there's ONE guy in the entire sewer you can talk to? Honestly that's a termina fact I didn't know lmao
As a disabled person the segment on Olivia was so true, I was born able bodied but lost a lot of mobility due to a chronic illness I developed as an adult. Now I have days where I can’t stand or walk, I’ve had times where I’ve crawled up the stairs due to my pain and my legs being too weak to stand. Everything I do during the day has to be carefully planned and thought out. To anyone reading this who wonders what life is like as someone disabled - imagine you wake up in the morning and have 10 spoons, every task you need to do will cost you a certain amount of spoons, what will you do when they run out? Having to pick and choose your battles against either your own body (ie. Getting dressed, eating, working) or a world which isn’t yet fully accessible can be demoralising. It’s terrifying and pushing through it requires so much fortitude and so much time to plan things in a way that will impact you the least, and my lived experience is in a modern world. Olivia’s story is the one I relate to the most because I see so much of myself and my own struggles in her. Disability does not equal weakness, we all fight our own invisible battles, but often the way life is impacted by even the smallest things when you are disabled is something you would never think about unless it happened to you. But to anyone else out there dealing with a disability - you are strong, you are intelligent, and you have to keep fighting (to win some murder festival or to kick a disability’s ass) ❤
Thank you for writing this. Wish you the best
i'm so sorry you deal with this
I bow to your strength madam.
Damn, that was beautiful.
Awesome comment thanks for teaching me. I want to become successful one day and when i do, I will make sure I can make my things easy to access for people with illnesses and disabilities. Because it can happen to any of us
Giving Marcoh a meat grinder + leech ring + small things amulet then using pheromones and his dodge ability is how I finished the game for the first time. Pair it with a low-cost, spice forged heal spell and no enemy has a chance. I literally cleared the world out, and could run around freely. Felt so good!
About Stitches and Needles:
After Stitches inspection, Needles one changes too (If you playing as Daan). He'll notice that Needles looks like Baron Van Dutch, and in theory, he (Van Dutch) sacrificed himself and Elise to Sulfur God, and maybe it gave them re-birth like that? Also, Daan sprite has a "recemblance" to them, Daan is pale too.
20:23 Their should be an ending for not using the skill tree at all. A show of spite again at the gods and their ways.
That's a great idea
"Fuck you and your friend and your friends wife and your friends dead daughter and your friends wifes employee and the dead guy your friend lives in."
@Armored_Ariete >MASTURBATION
The people in the sewers are moonscorched. It even showed on your screen as moonscorched villager is down. I'd guess they are the remnants of the first festival that took the whole city. Then the Bremen got stuck in a festival, then the train.
The beta sprite of the centaur is just horrible, like it just confirms what everyone thinks
You mean the one with Needles?
Link?
@@SaixahContext?
@Saixah the beta model is likely gone for good and you'd have to be there to see it.
@@dylannecros3636 It's on the wiki, Fear and Hunger wiki .gg
The villagers in the sewer are the one's been moonscorched, they're just trying to survive and avoid being killed as they are despised by the unaffected. Also, you can talk them out.
You can't talk out the guys in sewers.
I don't think you can talk them out but I'm pretty sure you can make them hesitate with intimidation
You can talk with them. You need the skill "persuation" and choosing the right dialogues one of them will become non-agressive and will talk to you, he will say something different from the ones on the surface
My favorite thing about needles is that if you take off both of his arms, he’ll have a third arm to use his pistol with!
His got that ever useful 3rd arm
Perhaps the real nasty things are the coin flips we made along the way.
@@marciver5028 preach lol
Wow your commentary on disability and overcoming difficulty was much needed and appreciated. I like how you talk about these games. Thank you.
That makes me happy, thanks for watching 😀
Empathy is something that should be given to all
The head collection point is quite fascinating, I never saw a game who was so insidious about changing your perception about how you see the npc and even the characters. You quickly go from empathy for their suffering to calculating how much they worth in soul stones and you do so almost subconsciously.
@@ludimiller3717 lots of games are like this, aren't they? NPC's dropping loot after you unlock a skill? Ex: souls for enchanting in elder scrolls
"You had a massive orgasm and passed out" is not a line I was expecting to see
These games never fail to make me just slightly too uncomfortable, I will probably never play them myself but I find the lore so cool
The lore is the best part and someone else does all the hard work of playing the game for these kinds of videos
You don't need to play the games. They can be fun, mostly because of the random item loot mechanics. Works a bit like a slot machine. Get a broken item early? Lights flash, jackpot music, woop woop.
When i get a exploding item like pipebomb or yellow vial (i think) i always use it to kill needles or the woodsman @@Pensnmusic
@@Pensnmusic
Its more satisfying achieving it all by yourself though...
@@desfefe not really, I don’t need to play games personally to feel like I enjoyed them to their fullest.
omg!!1!1!1!111! hatsune eggman hi!1!!111!1!
No Walk Good lmao. I'm an amputee myself, and that shit is funny. Ill probably never play this, so thanks for the explanations. It's all very interesting.
I'm glad you liked it! and got a laugh out of it
13:02 - (big spoiler ahead click "read more" at your risk)
the statue shown here is modeled after Pazuzu, Mesopotamian spirit of South-Western wind. When you use Party Talk in Foundations of Decay, Abella states how the cave "smells like rotting eggs", which is basically the smell of sulphur. The zone name is possibly a reference to Bible quote Matthew 16:18. If you have O'saa in your party and get into the ground level of the church, he will give you the comment on how he doesn't feel Alll-mer's presence there. If you get into the church basement, you will see corpses littered everywhere, and the effigy pedestal with red sigils of Valefor, Astaroth and Crocell beneath its legs. If you use Talk and Persuade on Crimson Father in basement, he will reveal "the visions of torn flesh, taking a shape of an one-eyed god that burns in a pit of sulfur". When you get to the end of the game, it becomes clear that Sulphur God is the real boss behind all of this mess (who is basically Satan in game's pantheon), that the church has been desecrated head-to-toe by his cultists, and that Moon God Rher (or whatever is left of him) is just a puppet used to moonscorch people for Per'kele's sick amusement.
Wow great addition. Thanks for typing this up!
Many might also recognize Pazusu from the classic horror film, "The Exorcist."
Had a strong enough run on my first playthrough to kill the heartless one. High enough defense and speed was key. Two turns so you can heal and attack every round. Counter helps wear down the sword arm.
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Yknow, the last thing you expect when watching a FnH video is for the creator to throw a positive twist on things. Bravo.
😀
You know, it's probably obvious, but I only just realized that the blue skin of the sulfur cultists could be a reference to cenobytes from Hellraiser.
Shocker that a series with heavy torture and gore makes one think of that classic movie.
Oh, and in ending A, I always make sure I leave the other party members behind, and take only the goat with me into the artificial green.
I saw somewhere that sulphur fires burn blue and it was a reference to that.
Saw you in shorts so I decided to watch your full videos, lovethe nasty thing and lore videos you do makes my lunch breaks better
I'm happy to hear that! Glad you liked them!
As a Brit,hearing ‘bell end’ repeatedly was hilarious.
I think it really worked out well that I didn't know what it meant, that way I was completely oblivious when i was recording. At that point, i just thought it was some name the dev of the game made up
@@tacobanana_forever it really did, the annunciation was so different to “Oi, ya bellend” and that it gave it a cool twist.
Hahaha good to hear
You pointed out the tin man in Pocket Cat's room, but there's a lion and a witch too and a doll you could say is Dorothy. It's a Wizard Oz reference, probably, but the weird thing is I can't find Toto (unless the bear thing beside the tin man is Toto?) or the scarecrow.
Wow i somehow didn't make that connection at all. Thanks for pointing it
IDK if somebody already told you this but your spanish accent is on point, that Melquiades at 14:12 was so good it actually gave me whiplash
Haha thank you!
@@tacobanana_foreverhaha too god hermano
Mil gracias :)
You ever think about how a centaur from mythology would have 2 ribcages?
I had never thought of that, but now I won't be able to stop thinking about it
3:31 Throbbing grind huh? 😈
Wow i love your script! Your narration turns this list into a special story. The section about disability was really deep. Thanks for the hard work and sharing your thoughts
My pleasure, thank you for watching
The Centaur is a marriage between a human and a horse (A marriage is the result of 2 living things making love with consent in a ritual circle in favor of the Old God Of Love and it fuses their body and soul)
16:49, "you had a massive orgasm, and passed out" lmao
I like the names you picked out for the main characters, good show my friend 🤞🏻
Thank you!
"20 NASTY things in Fear and Hunger 2"
"Number 14: Disability"
Yeah that's truly nasty 😂
If you revisit the room after Daan Moonscorched, it changes to suit him. The new room design is a scene that re-enacts the tragedy that changed his life
I just discovered this channel 1 day ago and i already love it
You did a really good job with the intro. Not many channels get the audio balancing right and I appreciat it
I appreciate that :)
…couldn’t Marcoh just, like, pick up Olivia and give her a piggyback ride? He’s strong enough!
That intro got a laugh out of me.
Monstrosities, wheelchair girl with a shotgun, quick everyone punch the washing machine!
Washing machine had it coming!
The dungeon of fear and Hugner is nowhere near Termina actually, due to the fact you go there for O'saa's route.
Yup. The dungeon of Fear and Hunger is in Rondon (either in real life France or Britain) while Prehevil is basically Prague (real life capital of Czechia). Those two place are far away.
After that inspirational speech about disabilities, I'd feel compelled to fuck that up by mentioning to everyone you can unequip the wheelchair.
This game is like Majora's Mask, meets Silent Hill JRPG.
And a dash of the movie Battle Royale
@@tacobanana_forever Just for comedy. Just imagine if the Bremen army remained. It will be ALOT more noisier and chaotic.
Levi: *PTSD intensifies*
Bonesaw would be putting in the work
@@tacobanana_forever Now with 200% TF2 MEEEDIC!
The centaur is based on one of Silent Hill Origin’s monsters.
Really? Do you know which one?
@@tacobanana_forever I google the monsters, probably Two-Back.
@@tacobanana_foreverprob bed daddy
Needles themselves is a reference to Art the Clown from Terrifier.
Most notably, in the film, Art pulled a gun when they were disarmed after having been a more traditional slasher villain up until that point.
I think your musings about the priests appearing to be corrupted by their worship of Grogoroth is more on point than you might have thought. I think their smiles are very similar to the smiles of the Black Witch from Fear and Hunger 1, and if I remember the Black Witch used magic that requires affinity with Grogoroth. Maybe the priests are beginning to devolve into a form like what the Black Witch was.
i feel like having a big chunk where you talk about how cool it is to have a wheelchair bound character and how it makes you think about the challenges of that while also constantly having olivia named "NoWalkAllGood" is kinda odd.
I see your point. I think i try to throw in humor a lot, and maybe it's not always appropriate. Thanks for sharing your feedback :)
@@tacobanana_foreverDon't let anyone put a damper on your cheeky dark humor.
@@tacobanana_forever is perfection, don't let people trowh you down, like you olivia on the stairs-
@@zacharyrollick6169 thank you for saying that. I sometimes have doubts
@unukbigwall2279 hahaha haha thank you for saying that I feel so much better
The Heartless One also takes a good bit of its visual design from Omega's female form in FFXIV, Omega-F. Which makes perfect sense, as Omega is a machine life form programmed and designed to seek out and defeat only the strongest of opponents.
I didn't know that! Googling Omega-F, I can absolutely see the inspiration there. Thanks for the heads up!
@@tacobanana_forever Even crazier, the boss in XIV takes both male and female forms, with...you guessed it, a katana and a staff as its weapons. Just like Heartless One.
See, I always figured Platoon was what happened to a tank platoon who got Moonscorched, and their Commander is still in control of them, ordering them around. Granted, her orders are no longer military oriented, since she's turned into the leather-bound grinning thing she is. Perhaps the platoon's devotion to her is what lead them to being fused together with each other AND their tank, while her wants and desires for control (of more things than just military) led to her form?
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Well that’s one way to call Olivia😂
OMFG IS THAT THE HOLLOW KNIGHT THEME!!!
3:29 "THROBBING GRIND"?! I'M FUCKING CRYING DUDE WTF DO YOU MEAN
What makes the centaur more nasty is that it’s a marriage between a man and a horse…
Love the content it’s so cool but I low key regret seeing some of this stuff 😭😭
Haha fair enough, and I'm glad you've enjoyed it!
Is needles really not a nod to art the clown in the terrifier movies? He has a whip with blades and pulls out a pistol when he is wounded like in the first movie
Oh he absolutely is. FH is filled with small little references to other horror franchises
Man i got so happy when i got the silent hill references while i was playing, the fog, the moldy building, the orphanage that is just like midwich school, good to see that alot of people got these refences too
Hurray!! Happy to hear that
I never wanted to put in the time for these games but still like the lore
These are a lot of fun to listen to in the background, as long as youre alone that is 😅. Wouldnt want to explain to my roommates or parents why I'm watching a video about fecal dogs and dismembered heads.
That's understandable, and considerate. No one else needs to experience the fecal dogs *bone saw sound*
This happens to me often rn since I’m with my extended family for the holidays, and there’s no way I can explain to them how amazing the game is and why all the “edgy” stuff makes it special. Even w/ my girlfriend at home I’ll watch these with earbuds while I’m doing chores around the house bc she’d probably think I’m a secret serial killer for watching these 😂
I think the edgy stuff does kinda distract from the plot and characters, at least at a glance. I think the horror is cool and intriguing, but for me, it was the mystery of the fight between the gods and humanity, and the characters that really drew me in. Like "what is the machine god"
MASSIVE would on Heartless One.
It's like if Bloodborne was a PS1 turn-based RPG, but even more R-rated. You might have sold me on these games.
@@sayseriously hope you have fun.
Also.. if you are looking for a retro game to scratch a Bloodbourne itch, check out Nightmare Kart on Steam (it's free)
I think the Machine God ending is quite bleak and harrowing. After all those tortuous encounters and puzzle solving you end up just being another empty shell permanently online and as a conduit for a greater being.
F&H enjoyers: this is just like berserk!
F&H: is literally fighting a washing machine
Edit: I’m at the first minute of the vid and every time i find out something new about this game my reaction every time is “what in the god damn fuck?!”
Haha I'm happy to hear it! Also, that was my feeling playing thru the game: "WTF could happen next?"
F&H is Berserk but you are not the main character.
Just started playing F&H2 and these videos have been brilliant 😊 thanks for the content and keep up the good work
Thank you very much. It puts a smile on my face to hear that!
Enjoy playing thru the games!!
Amazing job, good sir!
Glad you liked it!
Very interesting video on an incredibly interesting game! Well done! Just wanted to point out that the Crow Chimera looks kind of similar to Karen’s Moonscorched form. Could it be that the Crow Chimera is tied to the military and how Le’Guarde basically tricked soldiers into thinking they were in Prehevil to help people or something? 🤔 Karen compares herself a lot to Valkyries, but her Moonscorched form looks like a literal bird, particularly a carrion creature. Maybe the Crow Chimera is actually a marriage between a bunch of soldiers?
That is a very interesting theory! I have no idea, I guess we might get more clues as the game gets updated. I think there's still a lot more content to come
Fighting washing machine is the lowest of the lowest 😂
10:10 lol those heads aren't gonna saw themselves 😂 get to work!
25:29 good message, very wholesome, and thoughtful, I appreciate that.
28:50 lol and that's why I like playing as the boxer Marcoh 😂
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14:05 Prehevil is not built on top of dungeons of fear and hunger: Prehevil is situated in Bohemia (Czechia) and dungeons were situated in Rodon (France).
It is unknown how Moonless got from Rodon to Bohemia, but it seems that she grew up in to that big monstrosity in Rodon, where Miasma was kept because I don't think she was impaled with Miasma while being small like in the first game.
the moment i found out that you can make the sewer ghoul passive and the able to talk normally blew my mind
I dont know how or why but hearing "hardened grind" reminds me of my first solo character as Marcoh vs an elite Bremen soldier. I was lucky enough to get ring of wraiths and salmonsnake while wise enough to get escape plan and bob and weave.
I just pummeled on the thing til it stopped moving, and that was one of the most satisfying things for some reason. Im just regening in combat, getting shot occasionally, and beating some towering soldier emulating iron to death.
Then i realized i liked this game.
MA! MAH! DEY BE F***IN HORSE NOW! MA!
The bellend is my favorite enemy. You think he would be a little bit more sensitive to touch.
All this is so interesting. Do you happen to have a playthrew of the game up somewhere? Id love to watch one.
Sure! Here's the 1st part of a playthrough I did
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The 2nd half
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@tacobanana_forever awesome!! When I'm done watching these videos about 20 nasty things from the games I will start watching those. Thank you so much!!!
My pleasure! Thanks for watching!
The nastiest thing in termina is me, when I see Marco.
@liliboth1485 haha fair enough
“Top 1 disturbing, i dont think i need to explain why its disturbing”
Needles maybe a reference to terifier
He def is
100% The fact he has a make shift whip of pain as well as whips a gun out the second he faces trouble is absolutely a reference to Art doing the exact same thing.
we're at the googly eye thumbnail phase now... great...
We know Prehivel isn't above the Dungeons, even setting the geography aside, O'Saa was JUST in the Dungeons and obtained Nas'hara's head and went directly to the Termina festival.
Orange is an absolute master storyteller & the art/music perfectly compliment his ideas.. Personally, I think this is one of the greatest games ever made.
Hey so I have a question, given how horrible the 1st game is (I tried to play it but was too scared and wasn’t very good at it) would you say the 2nd game easier or harder in terms of difficulty, and is it more or less scary than F&H1?
The games are really really fascinating but I can only seem to get myself to watch through bits of them rather than play them (1 more than 2 as 2 has only just landed on my radar). I refunded 1 when I realised I was scared by even trying to explore outside the dungeon because I knew the dogs were coming and I wouldn’t be able to beat them alone.
I hear ya, fair enough.
The 2nd is overall more polished and less frustrating. I wouldn't say it's easier, but it's more accessible. Easier to save, less RNG (coinflips), less nudity and edgelord stuff, less dismemberment.
Narratively, could go either way, I loved the creepy vibe of Prehevil and discovering what weird stuff is going on. So IMO it's about the same in terms of being scary, but it's a different type of scary
Also, in the 2nd one, there's a lot more characters and they're all awesome
If you like Needles, he’s a complete reference to Terrifier. Look it up! Multiple great horror/slasher films
Thanks for the recommendation
After seeing this, I believe there's ending S for any character - by not collecting the heads and still fighting the 3 bosses.
Idk how, but I guess it's somehow possible.
@666Wolfhunter666 that'd be a interesting challenge run
Neos is a reference to Art the Clown. Same weapon shenanigans followed by using a gun once things start going bad for him
Needles has some serious Art the Clown vibes.
I was fighting Sylvian trooper and Platoon today and failed a coin flip. And Platoon did nothing, he just has forgiven me it, lol. He did not miss, there was no sign of missing, he just didn't shoot. This is most probably a bug or I don't know something about the game, but it makes me think that the second part is much more forgiving than the first.
Just compare: in the first part the enemy who hunts you across almost whole dungeon is Crow Mauler, who possesses one-shot Peck attack (with no coin flip, the character just dies) and another game ending attack that inflicts blindness (this is game over unless you have Isaiah's mask as you won't be able to navigate the dungeon). In Termina the enemy who hunts you is Needles, who literally can't kill you: if you "die" to him you just have all your debuffs removed, health, mind and hunger restored and moved to another location. The only consequence is your friends get killed, which is mostly beneficial if you want endings B or C.
Good point on Needles. And I completely agree, Termina has less rough edges and more friendly game design. If that's a good thing or not kinda depends on what experience you are looking for
You're doing a service, my friend
My pleasure 😀 thank you
The party watching me get murdered by the heartless one like DBZ side characters 👁 👁
Neos looks like a heavy art the clown reference i like to think it is anyways haha
tip for marcoh, go bare handed, he has bonus damage
Centaur.... alright who married a horse
Mr Hands
10:43 you're welcome.
Guys if you find it hard to get the courage to bonesaw a head in this game listen. Moonscorching has no cure, they are suffering and you become stronger so you can end this madness if you do so.
You know, when I heard "inverse centaur" I just thought it was the body of a human crawling on all fours with the head of horse or something and didn't understand the whole "what everyone thinks" comments. Then I actually watched what it looks like and... I get it now...
OMg that human crawling on all fours with a the head of a horse is horrifying
#1 the Vaush cameo.
15:36 The rifleman, soldier, elite bremen trooper and flametrooper also use firearms?
16:30
uzhhh, tahts not needles hat, thats tanakas hat, he steals it after killing him
h also steals marinas face after killing her
where are u from? I liked the way you pronounced "Melquiades" when talking about Blasphemous, sounded really natural
I grew up in Central America, so did up to college in spanish
@@tacobanana_forever thats awesome man, you got a new fan from Mexico! btw I havent even finished the video and u already replied hahhah
@@saalbefleur Mil gracias!
The Bellend = The DingDong lancer
On the topic of drawing on inspirations from other sources: Good artists borrow, and great artists steal. That is to say if something works then it should be added to your tool kit, and it becomes yours. If people understand a work of art from one piece of media then putting something similar or the same will get the point across easily. Barber poles 💈 are universally accepted for barber shops and grooming, a spooky hotel with a serial killer does the same!
7:52 Ah, Good old abuse of the natural tendencies toward apophenia is a classic story telling tool.
where did you get the image of the heartless one?
I generated them with AI
Please please please stop using ai art. You’re videos are amazing to listen to but that’s really all I can stomach doing because the ai art upsets me so much. Other than that it was an entertaining video but I just don’t like the ai stuff being incorporated for pretty obvious reasons
@spoopu9947 thank you for your feedback, I hear you. And thanks for the kind words
#2 its just Bellend, not Bell-end. As for what it means.. well I'm pretty sure the creator made this as a meme monster; "bellend" is taken from english slang and it means exactly what it looks like
I didn't know that. Thanks for the heads up
Centaur is a reverse Mr. Hands