Fear and Hunger: The Lie of Ascension

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  • @miticaBEP07
    @miticaBEP07 10 місяців тому +2622

    Enki’s S ending seems to imply that he followed Nosramus’ lead in his more controlled, more shared pursuit of knowledge. It’s Nos who gives Enki the Soul Anchor to keep him aground, resisting the temptation of godhood, and they probably met again as he walked back.
    Enki lost godhood, but found companionship. Someone to nerd out with, let’s say. It’s so beautiful.

    • @vshiki4872
      @vshiki4872 10 місяців тому +421

      the real fear and hunger is the friend he made along the way. Damn I love that sleep-deprived boney fuck with my whole heart....

    • @quirinoguy8665
      @quirinoguy8665 10 місяців тому +165

      Ah, me and my bro chilling ending.

    • @dean_l33
      @dean_l33 10 місяців тому +145

      @@quirinoguy8665 Don't forget the skellybros and zombie chads

    • @qwopiretyu
      @qwopiretyu 10 місяців тому +33

      Epic of Gilgamesh reference?

    • @SamP-by7iv
      @SamP-by7iv 10 місяців тому +83

      Nosramus is Enki's alchemistmoder soulmate. I hope they live (forever) happily together.

  • @FFVogter.-em6zz
    @FFVogter.-em6zz 10 місяців тому +487

    It says a lot that even Nas'Hrah thought that Godhood was a sham and warns people about pursuing it.

  • @hunterlurvey698
    @hunterlurvey698 10 місяців тому +1449

    Im surprised you didnt bring up ragna's S ending, which literally refers to him as the god of ultra violence. I think its a perfect mirror to his ascension ending, where his grief and rage consumed him, causing him unending torment, while his S ending is him turning that suffering into a drive to rid the world of monster's and darkness, making the world a better place, and saving lives in the process. Its ironically a very heroic ending, considering the name and reputation it earns him.

    • @PS64Subs
      @PS64Subs 9 місяців тому +128

      Ragna and Doom Slayer would definitely get along.

    • @felipegiraldo4958
      @felipegiraldo4958 9 місяців тому +12

      Parecido al capitán rudimer que se convierte en el crow mauler

    • @Gavlavyus_Rumi
      @Gavlavyus_Rumi 9 місяців тому +79

      Also as we learned from FH2 he starts another family too

    • @93hothead
      @93hothead 8 місяців тому +28

      The real MC

    • @PopfulFrost
      @PopfulFrost 7 місяців тому +23

      Him and Enki getting the only happy endings in the game.

  • @datdudeman3588
    @datdudeman3588 10 місяців тому +2780

    Da'rce realised in order to reach god accension, she has to get rid of that yee yee ass haircut

    • @jk_ilyu
      @jk_ilyu 9 місяців тому +67

      LMFAO

    • @thestrange2742
      @thestrange2742 8 місяців тому +78

      Her Armor to d'arce looks like that of francois's Armor.

    • @CallofDutyBlackOps28
      @CallofDutyBlackOps28 8 місяців тому

      her Inspiration comes from Joan the maid; more commonly named d'arc. hense Da'rce @@thestrange2742

    • @PopfulFrost
      @PopfulFrost 7 місяців тому +42

      Her haircut was da arse.

    • @detective8205
      @detective8205 7 місяців тому +7

      She also got a pickle 😅

  • @xanosghoul
    @xanosghoul 10 місяців тому +715

    It's interesting how the characters are genuinely more happy and much of the time more powerful when they don't become Gods. Enki has more applicable knowledge and freedom, Ragnvaldr has a greater capacity for combat and justice and Cahara still his family and riches to buy their freedom.
    And Darce isn't bald!

    • @thepracticeofchaos5629
      @thepracticeofchaos5629 10 місяців тому +74

      The Last fact is most important. Lmao

    • @registeredpyromaniac
      @registeredpyromaniac 9 місяців тому +28

      Who cares what actually happened to D'arce, she's not bald at least!

    • @xanosghoul
      @xanosghoul 9 місяців тому +84

      ​@@registeredpyromaniac Unironically even in her other endings her unfortunate connection to Le'garde and his obsession with Ascension prevents her from any real purpose outside of her mission and dominating and destroying anyone who gets in her way.

    • @stupididiot4034
      @stupididiot4034 8 місяців тому +1

      Isn't Cahara's cannon ending getting killed so the god of fear and hunger is born?

    • @DrEisenhower
      @DrEisenhower 3 місяці тому

      @@registeredpyromaniac

  • @wildfire9280
    @wildfire9280 10 місяців тому +744

    D’arce has to be among the greatest subversions of a “dominating soul” in fiction. I normally don’t care for ends justify the means villainy because of how incoherently outlandish they get, but everything she does is perfectly aligned with her devotion and her candidness is believable.

    • @lopezroilans.8384
      @lopezroilans.8384 8 місяців тому +88

      An evil that does not know it is evil is the worst kind of evil there is.

    • @yoman5029
      @yoman5029 5 місяців тому +9

      there are some "ends justify the means" villains that aren't "incoherently outlandish". waternoose and lotso are good examples.

  • @majorghoul9017
    @majorghoul9017 10 місяців тому +200

    I love the way Ragnvaldr contrasts the previous Tormented One.
    Chambara has no skin at all, while Ragnvaldr is overburdened by skin

    • @Shoteaux2
      @Shoteaux2 7 місяців тому +9

      The god of Chamba

    • @danitron8317
      @danitron8317 5 місяців тому +4

      ​@@Shoteaux2 Bueno, lo llaman "El Atormentado" por algo

  • @lilyminer9164
    @lilyminer9164 10 місяців тому +2176

    The topics usually covered in your videos are making it funnier and funnier that I listen to them at night because of your relaxing voice. Me when I listen to a video essay about trauma and pure destruction in an extremely dark game: 😴💤🛌

    • @iamjustkiwi
      @iamjustkiwi 10 місяців тому +47

      It's weird the things we can find comforting. As a teen my favorite music to fall asleep to was System of a Down, a very not relaxing band, but it would still help my brain shut off for the night lol

    • @neoqwerty
      @neoqwerty 10 місяців тому +16

      @@iamjustkiwi I managed to find my insomnia cure in setting up CPU-only infinite Smash Bros matches (you'd think the amounts of noise and random character name cheers would wake my lightly-sleeping behind up but nope!)
      The human brain is so weird about what it decides means "this is safe and soothing, I can take a break!".
      (And when I say insomnia I mean as a like 6 years old I would upset my parents running on 3-4 hours of sleep a night, all the way up until I found the Smash bros matches cure at 16 by accident, and I still can't go to sleep without 2 hours of trying without game sounds or heavy metal to chase the thoughts out of my brain.)

    • @iamjustkiwi
      @iamjustkiwi 10 місяців тому +7

      @neoqwerty that's actually really cool, kinda reminds me how my dogs always get sleepy when my partner and I are talking excitedly (not to compare you to dogs!) - some kind of positive association despite not being a traditional relaxing environment. I've gotten lucky enough to find that I now sleep pretty well to droning noises like a fan or road noise...which makes long drives difficult. The main downside is now silence is the least relaxing thing to me ... I have a hard time functioning without any sort of background stimulus day or night to the point where I went camping once and actually downloaded a fan noise app so I could get some rest lol. Do you have similar problems? Brains are weird huh?

    • @pro_154
      @pro_154 10 місяців тому +1

      I understand because I get very sleepy. When other people talk about pocket cat and I can just knock out. 😂😂😂😂
      It hit different when lore about your favorite character shouldn't put you to sleep

    • @iateyourjelly9713
      @iateyourjelly9713 10 місяців тому +1

      I was watching the video and woke up 4 hours later eith my earphone still plugged in and no blanket

  • @defnothankjwimbleton3475
    @defnothankjwimbleton3475 10 місяців тому +873

    Ragnvaldr is clearly the most powerful of the group, judging by the fact that he’s the only one with physical changes to his form, outside of going bald, getting a tattoo, or wearing a cool hat

    • @coconut-od8hz
      @coconut-od8hz 10 місяців тому +143

      To be fair enki became stronger as well. This iron mask definetly requires some physical strenght

    • @samkeiser9776
      @samkeiser9776 10 місяців тому +49

      It looks like he’s being eaten

    • @thecheeseblock9880
      @thecheeseblock9880 10 місяців тому +99

      in his S ending doesnt he kill every folklore-related entity in the dungeon and out?

    • @ulforcemegamon3094
      @ulforcemegamon3094 10 місяців тому +39

      ​@@thecheeseblock9880 yes , that is why getting the S ending with him is hard

    • @petermarino4008
      @petermarino4008 10 місяців тому +30

      Kinda looks like he didn’t go through a physical transformation either and is just a dude wearing a bear suit

  • @FirstLast-cg2nk
    @FirstLast-cg2nk 10 місяців тому +3068

    I think it is important to note that the reality of the Golden Throne is even more bizarre and interesting than one might assume. See, it wasn't that the gods tired of humanity, but that they became afraid of humanity's potential. See, as humans understand a concept more thoroughly, it changes the god that concept is attached to. At some point, humanity killed two gods, once on accident and once on purpose, through this process. So the Golden Throne was used to stop humanity's progress. *It failed.*
    Before we begin, the nature of the Golden Throne is critical for understanding everything I'm about to say. In Termina, it is shown that the Golden Throne was created by the lizardmen, a race that existed before humanity did. What happened to the lizardmen, exactly, is unknown, but they are clearly extremely long-lived, since there is still at least a couple left alive by the time of Fear and Hunger with no evidence of them ever breeding in the area. They were the ones who originally created the Golden Throne, and it is possible that the Lizardmen were the first Old Gods, having ascended themselves to that position. Given that the throne was made for the lizardmen by the lizardmen, it is no mystery what the throne gives such limited godhood to humans: It was never meant for humans to begin with.
    After the cataclysm that all but annihilated the lizardmen, the Old Gods created humanity to fill the gap left by the lizardmen so they could continue to exist, since their existence is tied to a concept, and a concept can only exist if there is someone to conceptualize it. Without realizing it, however, with the creation of humanity the Old Gods sealed their fate for they knew not the terror that they had unleashed upon themselves.
    Now we being to explain why the Golden Throne is a trap, and why it was set. Per a Skin Bible written by Enki, the goddess of Nature died due to humanity coming to understand nature enough that it held no real mysteries anymore. Yes, there were things that weren't fully understood, but enough was understood that very few supernatural concepts of mysteries were attached to it anymore. The old gods are defined by humanity's understanding, or perhaps it would be better to say their misunderstanding, of what a concept is. So when that concept is understood enough, the god attached to that concept dies. A god of the gaps can only exist if there are gaps left that they can occupy, and when those gaps disappear, so to does the god.
    Alll-Mer's ascension revolves around the death of another god, the god of the sun. As demonstrated with the Girl's apotheosis, in order for an ascended god to rise, an old god has to die. Before the player can see reach the place where her apotheosis takes place, the hearts of the God of the Depths had to be pierced, killing the old god. The old god's death fuels the ascension. While we don't have every detail, it does give us a blueprint for how Alll-Mer would have ascended and what it cost.
    Alll-Mer's corpse is interred at Mahabre, and it is still reasonably fresh in the past when the throne is reachable, and despite the city having a sun underground, it is a cold thing that gives light but no heat, indicating that it died along with the god. This implies that the time loop was established shortly after Alll-Mer's death, when there wouldn't be a human-aligned god to prevent it. That timing is critically important, because the death of Alll-Mer marked the end of humanity having a god that had their back and could break the loop.
    In the aftermath of Alll-Mer's death, the Old Gods gave humanity the Golden Throne, a poison chalice that offered power but also extremely strict limitations. A leash to hold back the ambitious and to halt human progress. From the moment a human first sat upon the throne, a time loop began. A time loop meant to be perpetual, and very nearly was.
    From there, the pattern is simple enough: New god ascends, new world order established, time passes, new god becomes old and impotent, humans come to Mahabre in the past and kill the new gods, humans sit upon the golden throne, new god ascends, repeat. The new gods that sit in the hall aren't simply dead, but erased from the timeline, having been killed shortly after ascending, their reign having been ended before it began. Based on the seemingly endless number of new gods we see, this has been going on for countless iterations of the cycle... until Enki comes along, sees the cycle as the trap it is, and breaks it. From there, humanity begins to move forward once again.
    All of this was to halt human progress and give the Old Gods a chance to escape humanity before the old gods were erased utterly. The old gods left traces of themselves behind, like a divine automated answering service to answer prayers so no one would realize that the gods had left. That's because if humanity could kills gods, even if by accident, then there's no limit to their potential, and one day humanity might find a way to reach that place that the gods fled to, and in comprehending that much about the gods and divinity itself, humanity might very well destroy the gods themselves while trying to find them.
    Given that humanity broke free from this seemingly impossible to escape trap, and one of the endings of Termina is based on one of the characters looking to reach the moon and find answers about what happened with Rher, god of the moon, they were right to be afraid, because very little will stop human progress, and that progress will kill the gods without humanity ever realizing they are doing it. The old gods fear humanity, and they are right to do so.

    • @wren_.
      @wren_. 10 місяців тому +610

      you need to make a UA-cam video essay right now, you put too much work into this comment for it to get lost in the sands of time

    • @sucloxsucloxsson
      @sucloxsucloxsson 10 місяців тому +226

      Exceedingly well written, thank you

    • @Kruazir
      @Kruazir 10 місяців тому +216

      Aren't there lizardmen in the void, though? I don't think they ascended as Old Gods. They are most likely the the earlier victims of them, Lizardmen probably also only become New Gods.

    • @pandequeso
      @pandequeso 10 місяців тому +105

      When a Lizardman ascends they become Blights, not Old Gods

    • @FirstLast-cg2nk
      @FirstLast-cg2nk 10 місяців тому +248

      @@pandequeso Ask yourself a question: What would the Old Gods have been called before there were new gods to compare them to? What would they have been called by beings that knew where they came from and what they were? What would they call those beings if those beings turned against their creators and caused a calamity that wiped out nearly all of their entire race? Blights, because they were a blight upon the ones who created them.

  • @estelar0067
    @estelar0067 10 місяців тому +410

    The way you insulted D’arces bowl cut while still keeping the same flat tone of voice made me laugh

  • @britneybij3997
    @britneybij3997 10 місяців тому +1829

    Becoming a God when you're a woman in F&H is such a wild spectrum.
    Either you become a pillar of unwavering power that can kill with just a gaze as your form has lost all traces of ever being human
    Or you just get your wig snatched 🤣

    • @wren_.
      @wren_. 10 місяців тому

      to be fair she already has a fuckass haircut

    • @axolotl1777
      @axolotl1777 10 місяців тому +342

      She got the Jada Smith power up

    • @StinkyPoopyMcFartFace
      @StinkyPoopyMcFartFace 10 місяців тому

      @@axolotl1777 Will Smith starts walking towards you *Pulse and Anxiety plays*

    • @Eumakun
      @Eumakun 10 місяців тому +26

      @@axolotl1777lmao

    • @elpejelagarto0915
      @elpejelagarto0915 10 місяців тому +93

      Now the only question left is was nilvian bald?
      And if so that was the reason she wears that funny hat?

  • @ratdelaez
    @ratdelaez 10 місяців тому +368

    in my opinion Enki's god form implies that the helmet is not allowing him to go further in knowledge, essentially making him a prisoner as a new god in contrast his s ending shows him going beyond the trap that's god-hood

  • @jammerlammer546
    @jammerlammer546 10 місяців тому +159

    My first thought was that the crest on cahara's armor isn't his, he just stole the armor.
    This has a nice added bonus a branding theme to his ascension, sort of a "once a thief, always a thief" type deal, with the crest of the armor he stole being branded on his torso

    • @ChocoRinRin
      @ChocoRinRin 8 місяців тому +47

      I like this interpretation! Also, if it's stolen and it has a family symbol it might also reinforce his wish for a family, so much so that he is willing to steal that symbol from others

  • @Pudding404
    @Pudding404 10 місяців тому +157

    Ending D fascinates me the most because it would've completely flipped the events of the sequel on it's head if it happened. Certain it's the only ending where there isn't the slightest hint of it in termina, and is the only ending where it isn't canon in the slightest.

  • @tolafia6708
    @tolafia6708 10 місяців тому +44

    6:48 gotta love the choices for the names

  • @Tinyholly
    @Tinyholly 10 місяців тому +185

    I'm SO excited you're doing more F&H reviews, you're exactly the kind of reviewer to interpret the open-endedness of the writing

    • @scootinkermie
      @scootinkermie 10 місяців тому +2

      Same I hope they continue

  • @Kittykat81572
    @Kittykat81572 10 місяців тому +332

    The symbol on Cahara is the sacrifice symbol found in Berserk. The game is heavily influenced by Berserk such as: D’arce and Casca, Le Garde and Griffith, and Ragnvaldr as Guts.

    • @fawfulmark2
      @fawfulmark2 10 місяців тому +29

      Also The God of Fear & Hunger = The Idea of Evil, as they were both concepts born from Man to give a reason for suffering.

    • @dean_l33
      @dean_l33 10 місяців тому +54

      @@fawfulmark2 I disagree with that comparision. The idea of evil is comepletely a detrement to humanity while the god of funger is more neutral and can even be helpful. Though they both do believe what they're doing is in service of man

    • @darrinidontcare9526
      @darrinidontcare9526 10 місяців тому +30

      has the sacrifice symbol and in the lore he is the one that sacrifices himself to create the god of fear and hunger

    • @ragingraider889
      @ragingraider889 10 місяців тому +4

      Since you dont mean the one on his cuirass nor his scarred family crest, what symbol are we talking about? Neither of them look like the Brand.

    • @mysteryman9488
      @mysteryman9488 10 місяців тому +17

      Perhaps but the Casca and Guts comparisons are a stretch. The creator has said D'arce is inspired by Jean D'arc and he had plans for her before he even read Berserk. Similar thing to Ragnvaldr he has pretty much nothing in common with Guts and is likely more of a reference to Konan the Barbarian.

  • @emissaryofthecows3389
    @emissaryofthecows3389 10 місяців тому +242

    How I think each of the player gods would go about their rule.
    Enki wouldn't share the gospel and wouldn't try to save humanity.
    Whilst a fun character, one would struggle to call Enki's motivation anything over than selfish. He comes to the dungeon after receiving visions of Le'Garde but his goals tie into his wish to become the god that golden haired Griffith is destined to become. Once achieving divinity, he tells us how the people aren't ready for the knowledge he's possessed. Additionally, his helmet also blocks the outside world, letting him pursue the further mysteries in solitude. I feel that Enki wouldn't particularly care about the wider world enough to create a religion. Instead, he would live through horrid times as a mysterious yet frighteningly powerful figure who would spread his teachings to only a select few that purposefully seek out his lessons.
    D'arce would share her gospel and would immediately help and rule over humanity.
    As said in the video, D'arce's dominating soul mainly leads to her loyalty to Le'Gard. Once the deadbeat dad is out of the picture, she would form her own goals and from what we see, they aren't pretty. Once D'arce's bitch ass haircut goes, so do her qualms. We see her speak of purest domination, appearing like a dark tyrant of fantasy, strong and ruthless enough to protect her subjects, yet selfish enough to believe that she's the only one worthy enough to rule.
    Upon ascension, she would immediately begin conquering cities and spreading her religion of dominance and strength above all. She would mercilessly stomp out any opposition, becoming a cruel god leading a religion of warmongering, bloodshed and control. Eventually, her own teachings would work against her as the strong would rise up against her. Some would seek to express their own dominance, some would fight to protect their friends and families but all of her enemies would fight to see D'arce's head on a spike.
    Cahara would seek freedom but eventually be drawn to help those in need.
    Throughout the journey, Cahara seems like someone who's fighting against himself. He plays as a callous thief, yet he's in the dungeon for altruistic reasons. He's a scoundrel, a cunning fighter, a total assface, certainly, but he's not an inherently evil person. Once ascending to godhood, I see Cahara as a mysterious wonderer, dropping in across villages and cities, taking in all there is to see and all there is to do before going off on his merry way, never wavering, never looking back. At least, he doesn't until the wars start. He doesn't want to, he wants to be free as a leaf on the winds of a storm, but something in him, something sickeningly human forces him to turn around to help someone who's screaming for help. Of course Cahara will play the callous card again. 'I was only here for the fight,' he would say unprompted. 'Your lives mean nothing to me.'
    Despite his dedication to appearing neutral and selfish, Cahara would help wherever he could. He would free prisoners, stop pillagers, save innocents. He would ask a price of course, but he would only take so much gold as his 'employers' could afford to give. Some say that after a while, he would pass the gold onto overs.
    Eventually, he would start spreading his teachings of freedom and of strength, the freedom to decide your own course, the strength to defend who and what matters most. Cahara insisted that he spread these teachings so that the people would defend themselves instead of relying on him, but those closest to him would think otherwise.
    Ragnavala- Ragen- Ragnv- Fuck it, Rag n Bone man would spread his religion before fucking off to god knows where.
    To say that Raggie had a tough life would be an understatement. In fact, it's better to say that he was the favourite pin cushion of Gro-Goroth. Destined to undergo a life of torment and suffering, it's no surprise that Ragtime was hardened by his experiences and became a monster of a man. He was prepared for life to hate him, he was prepared to lose over and over again, but he wasn't expecting to become a god. Having the power to protect innocents, Ragnar set off to make sure that what happened to him would never happen to anyone again. He found a village much like his own that was under constant attack from all manner of threats. For years, he stayed, slaying bandits, saving villagers and shedfing so much blood that locals began to call him a god of ultra-violence whilst others saw him as a demon.
    Rag against the machine had more goals he wanted to achieve: He would free Rondon from it's corrupt leaders, purify the country of Vinland and flay any creature that had ever tasted human blood. He was prepared for this, steadfast until he saw an act that disgusted him. On a calm, summer morning, a man came to Ragson and asked him to bring his family food. When asked why not find food himself, the man said Ragatha was their protector and should help him. There wasn't anything horrible in the man's words, but Raggie was infuriated with the realization that by protecting these people so fully, they had become reliant on him. If he were to leave, they would soon come under attack and would be utterly helpless.
    Rag refused the offer and later that day, he taught the village a lesson they would not soon forget. Another threat befell the village in the form of a hungry brown bear that came charging into the village. Livestock was eaten, men, women and children were attacked and injured, some even died and throughout all this, Ragnar simply sat back and watched until the bear had caused wounds that the people would not soon forget. Ragnakiri relented, grabbing the raging bear by the throat and snapping its neck with one hand. In a bizarre act of magic, Raggie merged himself with the beast, bringing it back to life with his head clasped firmly beneath its jaws. At this bizarre spectacle, Ragson saw how the people, bloodied and confused, winced at the sight of him. An old man fainted whilst a young woman threw up.
    It's here, that the religion of Ragagagaga was born. The torment that these people had faced has changed them forever, given them deep scars that will remain and change their lives. But these wounds weren't to be feared, they were to be welcomed with open arms and happy hearts for pain is the greatest teacher. Through their suffering, the would learn how to stop it from happening again, how to protect others and how to protect themselves.
    With this lesson, Reggie would depart and begin spreading his gospel. The bloodied bear would be seen by all, heard by all and feared by all. His teachings were of self-reliance, self-improvement and of acceptance. Suffering is a part of life, to think that a god will spare you of it is a fool's folly. Despair not, however, for the pain you feel will help you, so long as you accept it.
    When times grew worse, when warlords and monsters and every horrid thing under the sun plagued the lands, the tormented god was nowhere to be seen. And yet, all knew his teachings. Every town, every village and every home would have a statue of the red god, bloody tears flowing from the bear's teeth onto a content smile of a man.
    He was gone, but Ragnvaldr's teachings helped millions.

    • @greenrandall143
      @greenrandall143 10 місяців тому +13

      Great brake down

    • @ubnominal
      @ubnominal 10 місяців тому +46

      Nicee, this a great analysis or break down
      And Ragnvaldr’s name was finally spelled correctly at the last sentence

    • @prynczleinorparaiso35
      @prynczleinorparaiso35 10 місяців тому +5

      Wow

    • @MFBjosejuFanNumberUan2047
      @MFBjosejuFanNumberUan2047 10 місяців тому +5

      Thanks for such an excellent comment

    • @Leonlion0305
      @Leonlion0305 10 місяців тому +35

      So essentially:
      Enki: hermit teacher
      D'arce: classic demon lord
      Cahara: tsundere adventurer
      Ragnvaldr: Doom Slayer turn into Oshino Meme (or just Oshino Meme)

  • @Kholan95
    @Kholan95 10 місяців тому +76

    This video was so well done! Immediately one of my favorites since WormGirl's stuff.

  • @luigi_oe
    @luigi_oe 10 місяців тому +30

    I think the symbol that Cahara wears on his armor and that is embroidered onto him isn't one of his biological family but for the family he intended to have with Celeste.
    Its more of a "wear this on your shoulder" type of deal where Cahara fights for the family he oh so wishes to have and preserve having it protect him quite literally during his time in the dungeons.
    Then maybe when he ascends to godhood and remains eternally trapped as a lapdog of the old gods, he would has that symbol as a reminder of something he could've obtained, had he not sat on the throne.

    • @DodoJacket
      @DodoJacket 6 місяців тому +2

      It's based on the sacrifice brand in Berserk. A mark for humanity to transcend. The game is heavily inspired by Berserk

  • @swampwench
    @swampwench 10 місяців тому +111

    ascending in fear and hunger is like that one video of the guy going "ayo the pizza here" and he goes to run down the stairs but slips and tumbles down at the end proclaiming "oh my ears burn"

  • @mercenarygundam1487
    @mercenarygundam1487 10 місяців тому +198

    D'Arce ascends to godhood: *Loses hair*
    Party: BALD!!! BALD!!!! BALD!!!! BALD!!!
    Moonless: *Howls*
    Translation: MY EYES!!!!!!!

  • @barryb6685
    @barryb6685 10 місяців тому +16

    Soooo basically, becoming a new god is like becoming a middle manager at a grocery store and still being expected to stack boxes and work holidays.
    Got it.

  • @afonsius7907
    @afonsius7907 10 місяців тому +92

    I don't think ascension is that doomed of a fate, if you do all the best choices in the D ending, you end up having about as much influence as the OLD gods, and your reign lasts pretty much forever. I think it's the fault of those who becomes New Gods themselves as to why they become irrelevant, living in seclusion or being way to specific in what their focus is to have mass appeal, like chambara living to torture people and himself or valtiel seeking knowledge only for himself and never sharing with the rest of humanity, while in the D ending, you can have the title of the "Merciful One" and give hope to the masses, which seems much more encompassing and thus a target of more praise which in turns keeps you in power. Grogoroth mentions that he gave us the power to become gods to solve our own issues since we blamed everything on the old ones I believe, aswell as nostramus saying it is the fault of humanity for their own problems. Sure their power is limited but that doesn't mean New Gods can't become worthy, everlasting deities in their own right.

    • @iboofer
      @iboofer 10 місяців тому +34

      Best example of this is probably ironically Nas'hrah, who despite being beheaded has not declined in power or visibly aged, even though he's older than the current four New Gods by a long shot. Compare this to Chambara who is actively dying in the present era, at least partially from age. The only thing that seems to have dusted Nas was standing up to the traces of Gro-Groroth.

  • @THEFRISKIESTDINGO
    @THEFRISKIESTDINGO 10 місяців тому +9

    Enki is the kind of guy who would only rise up and break out of hell because his favorite manga got a new chapter.

  • @kamilslup7743
    @kamilslup7743 8 місяців тому +7

    gotta love how cahara is just walking menacingly for his new god sprite
    dude is fucking ballin

  • @theblocksays
    @theblocksays 10 місяців тому +27

    With the extended lore of Termina, I wonder if Ma'Habre had "temples" to each soul type and a new god associated in it's past. Like for example a"Radiating" temple, and beneath it a "Shadowed Pavilion" within a grotto or something.

    • @DodoJacket
      @DodoJacket 6 місяців тому +1

      There was for the four F&H1 ones.

  • @Liquid_Thom
    @Liquid_Thom 3 місяці тому +2

    I always interpreted caharas scars to represent him being "stained" and never being able to leave his mercenary past behind despite his best efforts

  • @zugetzuzu
    @zugetzuzu 4 місяці тому +3

    I cannot help but feel like "The Heartless One" looks like an evolution of D'arce, as if she became a new god after resurrecting Le'garde

  • @Sh1ranu1
    @Sh1ranu1 10 місяців тому +9

    You are fast becoming my favorite F&H loremaster. Your pacing, delivery, and structure is somethings that I’ve been needing from other F&H vids

  • @dah_goofster
    @dah_goofster 6 місяців тому +2

    The more I learn about fear and hunger the more I see this game as a huge metaphor for life. We often enter “the dungeon” to exchange our sanity and even our body for our goals and aspirations. Just like the dungeon in fear and hunger our sacrifices can never be taken back.
    If we don’t enter “the dungeon” we often wake up one day and realize we were always there.

  • @belenhernandoscocchi649
    @belenhernandoscocchi649 4 місяці тому +2

    i love every video you make! you speak very clearly and express yourself in concise ways! i love that you pack in a lot of info and analysis, without making the videos super long. they're just really good!!!!

  • @Kibereblan2006
    @Kibereblan2006 4 місяці тому +5

    11:52 not battle, it was a hard core drugs from poisonous berries and mushrooms. That's why everyone was scared of them, even their allies and that's why they do not care about steel and fire

  • @danteslayer9455
    @danteslayer9455 8 місяців тому +3

    i think cahara's symbol is something he came up whit and decided it would be his fmilie's crest; wich makes it all the more Heart-wrenching, since he uses it on his armour (the thing that helps keep him alive) and then carves it in his flesh. such is the importance of family to him.

  • @lillyleturgez5141
    @lillyleturgez5141 10 місяців тому +15

    obsessed w ur takes on the fear and hunger lore i could literally sit and listen to you talk about these games for hours

  • @skippyjones4254
    @skippyjones4254 9 місяців тому +5

    Based on your analysis of Ragnvaldr’s motivation, I’d be willing to bet that his new god form is a reference to the book/movie The Revenant, another story that deals heavily around revenge
    And of course there’s a bear

  • @Spyderfarmman
    @Spyderfarmman 10 місяців тому +5

    7:11 she put on the secret Armor and peeled off the helmet also looks like Franyboi
    Cahara looks like the "tormented one"
    Rag only has killing on the mind so he "looks" like Valti
    Enki too resembles Valti with the helmet of Allmer.

  • @rogersnick17
    @rogersnick17 3 місяці тому +2

    I don't know how the algorithm got me here, or what this game even is but love your methodical breakdown and description of it. You dove into characterization, and how it relates to theme, 😊like my old worshop classmates.
    I'm definitely liking this video.

  • @porkyorcy1715
    @porkyorcy1715 10 місяців тому +5

    one of the best fear and hunger studies ive seen!!

  • @heroman2372
    @heroman2372 10 місяців тому +2

    Its also interesting to note that for Enki's ascension, the background is darkened out, to help give the feeling of being a closed off prisoner

  • @astraabynn9690
    @astraabynn9690 4 місяці тому +2

    I want whatever shrooms Miro was on when he wrote and drew this bizarre masterpiece.

  • @MarkusManon
    @MarkusManon 5 місяців тому

    This single video has more unique lines of dialogue flashing on screen than any "what you might've missed" compilation on UA-cam. I keep pausing every few scenes to read something totally new to me!!

  • @unholyUroboros
    @unholyUroboros 10 місяців тому +4

    i mean this in the kindest most heart filled with love way possible but you sound like a college professor

  • @karmagreif
    @karmagreif 4 місяці тому +3

    6:37 I heared "LeGardless" 😭

  • @ericgrimes341
    @ericgrimes341 10 місяців тому +1

    I love you Video Essays on Funger. Tackling new ideas and topics. Your moonscorched video is especially on point.

  • @roblin3351
    @roblin3351 10 місяців тому +1

    I loved seeing your Fear & Hunger videos on TikTok and I'm soooo glad you're making full length videos about it on UA-cam now!

  • @your_pal_rid864
    @your_pal_rid864 10 місяців тому +9

    Love these Funger essays

  • @ignightroad
    @ignightroad 10 місяців тому +10

    I could listen to you talk about Funger (and Termina) forever. Your voice is so soothing and your videos get right to the point. Incredibly underrated UA-camr.

  • @fermentedstrawberry
    @fermentedstrawberry 10 місяців тому +31

    the gasp that i let out when i saw that you uploaded.... I've been waiting my Whole Entire Life for this. love your content!

    • @thefourthsaluki
      @thefourthsaluki  10 місяців тому +9

      Thank you for the support! Hoping to have several more uploads throughout the year!

    • @reinsama5436
      @reinsama5436 10 місяців тому +2

      Whole life when were you born gotta be after the game released

  • @jimmybradley9371
    @jimmybradley9371 10 місяців тому +1

    I have followed you on tiktok so long and I never realized you had a UA-cam channel. Thank you for answering my prayers.

  • @dylan697
    @dylan697 10 місяців тому +1

    It’s fascinating how darce and legarde are effectively casca and Griffith from berserk

  • @keapplle2153
    @keapplle2153 6 місяців тому +1

    this was a really great watch ill be honest but the names given to d'arce and the girl at 8:28 are killing me😭😭

  • @arthurbrown2460
    @arthurbrown2460 10 місяців тому +2

    SO glad you started uploading funger videos on youtube! please make more of these.

  • @ExcaliburX37
    @ExcaliburX37 10 місяців тому +6

    Happy new year, great vid!

  • @jules-d0t-com
    @jules-d0t-com 10 місяців тому +2

    I would absolutely LOVE for you to cover more RPGMaker games, like LISA or OneShot, and the themes they portray. I loved your stuff on TikTok and i’m happy you’re making long form content on UA-cam!!!

  • @AllCloudsAreBunnies
    @AllCloudsAreBunnies 5 місяців тому

    This was beautiful executed and brilliantly written, thank you so much for this video, very enjoyable

  • @rancidavocado2166
    @rancidavocado2166 10 місяців тому +4

    2 funger bangers in a row

  • @karlwikman3874
    @karlwikman3874 7 місяців тому +1

    Its kinda interesting how The new god with the dominating soul has what can only be described as "hung armor". The fact a female knight armor has a massive package also gives Flashbacks to Francois title and violating comments. Grim implications indeed.

  • @drowlmd2995
    @drowlmd2995 10 місяців тому +9

    In 13 minutes you managed to tell me more about the Core 4's complete history/motivations than most 1+ long FaH videos, don't know if you have skill or are just Lucky :)

  • @Xepent
    @Xepent 8 місяців тому

    Video is of a high quality and exhibits a countenance of a video i do not regret watching.

  • @demilung
    @demilung 6 місяців тому +1

    Dev: There's no deep meaning to the symbol, it's just like a family crest
    FaH community: OMG that add so much meaning!

  • @tres9316
    @tres9316 7 місяців тому +1

    what great writing!

  • @Livan-yuruikami
    @Livan-yuruikami 6 місяців тому +1

    Imagine being a random armorer and you see a frickin god having a random sign you engraved on a shitty leather armor you made years ago carved onto his own flesh

  • @jakukuja7736
    @jakukuja7736 10 місяців тому +2

    I wonder how many people got severe Mikoshit PTSD after seeing ascended Enki for the first time

  • @vincentgarcia1132
    @vincentgarcia1132 10 місяців тому +3

    yes! more fear and hunger content!!

  • @887frodo
    @887frodo 10 місяців тому +1

    I watched one of your Fear & Hunger videos (the one about the characters transformation) right before going to bed last night and I woke up in the middle of the night after having dreamed of an alternative version of myself shocking in a prairie. I was sleeping face up and was graving (although softly) my own throat… among the most terrifying nightmares of my life…
    Anyways, let me see what this one’s all about this fine evening

  • @florenmage
    @florenmage 10 місяців тому +4

    This game is so artistically deep! :D

  • @estrellah2801
    @estrellah2801 4 місяці тому

    Very well explained and well narrated, thank you 😊

  • @jakeking974
    @jakeking974 6 місяців тому

    Ragnvaldr is surely a heavy reference to the origin of berserkers in legend, but I feel like maybe there's symbolism in how the bear is, visually, moments from consuming him, only his face that represents who he once was, much like how his own suffering would grow to consume him and reduce him to that state.

  • @judgefudge6283
    @judgefudge6283 10 місяців тому

    I really love your breakdowns and soothing voice

  • @kenyaomicron977
    @kenyaomicron977 10 місяців тому +6

    12:30 uhhhhhhh, what a name choice

  • @ajax.mp4951
    @ajax.mp4951 10 місяців тому

    FEAR AND HUNGER VIDEO FROM LUCKY LEFTIE JUST DROPPED WOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!

    • @ajax.mp4951
      @ajax.mp4951 10 місяців тому

      TECHNICALLY IM LATE BUT

  • @sarahb1862
    @sarahb1862 10 місяців тому +3

    8:28 I'm sorry, I'm choosing between Ramen and... What now?

  • @Mkdj21
    @Mkdj21 10 місяців тому

    Your content deserves 1Mi subs or even more. Amazing.

  • @crimsonflash4882
    @crimsonflash4882 2 місяці тому

    Ascending to godhood is a reflection of your truest character is more sad when you remember the little girl turns into the god of fear and hunger

  • @slysamuel5902
    @slysamuel5902 10 місяців тому +28

    Im curious about Legarde’s new god form, since he lacks a soul when you use a soul stone on him and thus can’t become a concept like the other characters. Will you be making a video discussing that?

    • @dean_l33
      @dean_l33 10 місяців тому

      Wait really? I never even thought about using a soul stone on his corsp

    • @slysamuel5902
      @slysamuel5902 10 місяців тому +3

      Yeah, it’s weird. I believe miro was asked about what legarde’s soul type is on twitter, and he responded saying that if you try taking legarde’s soul, that’s the answer. So presumably he has none.
      Something else you might not know is that the little girl is also unique because she has an “ancient soul” if you take her soul. Makes me wonder what her new god form would be as well.

    • @grimafellheart2182
      @grimafellheart2182 10 місяців тому +17

      The king in yellow form makes sense if he has no soul.
      Hastur (the original king in yellow) never existed, not even in his own book.
      The king in yellow has no form and no name. We humanity gave him a form and name by our selves.
      So one with no soul would look like one with no soul as well.

    • @slysamuel5902
      @slysamuel5902 10 місяців тому +3

      @@grimafellheart2182
      Ah, that’s pretty cool. Out of curiosity, would you know anything more about the symbolism of the yellow king in fear and hunger?

    • @grimafellheart2182
      @grimafellheart2182 10 місяців тому +11

      @slysamuel5902
      The king in yellow is based on a book that has 10 parts. We will just do parts that help with the theory as the king in yellow is very complex.
      A play that has been censored and lost is called "The King in Yellow". This play was censored and lost because anyone who saw it went mad. The best thing that happened when someone saw the play was thinking that they were the king in yellow.
      Le-guard represents the man who thought he was the king in yellow by interpreting the prophecy as he is the one to save the world. With due time, his belief in something that is fake would become reality. Just like how Hastur, the person we think as the king in yellow, never had a form till we thought of one.
      Our next part is about a man who dies and goes to a place called Carcosa. Carcosa is described many times as hollow, unnatural, eerie, grand, divine, and empty. Wouldn't you agree that many of these descriptions fit the dungeon and its places to a T? Now here's the crazy part. Carcosa is the king in yellow's heaven.
      A place that is filled with divine power yet is hollow, empty and eerie... just like the end of fear and hunger where the player and their 3 companions enter the empty world of the old gods that are filled with unnatural things and divine monsters.
      Many creatures also wear yellow in fear and hunger, but all are also represented with snakes and lizards. Snakes and lizards are cold-blooded and "heartless", only carrying for themselves and their desires. Now, who do we know that only cares about what they want in fear and hunger? I think Le-guarde fits that description with his manipulation and the fact that he destroyed towns just to further his goal on his prophecy. For proof, Le-guarde had manipulated the knight, D'arce, and killed the wife and kid of Ragnvaldr.
      If we make Le-guarde the king in yellow and escape we get snippets of info that Le-guarde had conquered the entire continent without violence somehow. Maybe like many of the old gods Le-guarde used a symbol to manipulate the minds and powers of others. Like the king in yellow's sign that warps human minds to worship him and his symbol.
      The king in yellow represents insanity and decadence, which means over indulgence in pleasure and luxury. With Le-guarde wanting to be a God and having no soul. Perhaps Le-guarde is trying to fill his empty soul with power and riches. After all, yellow is the color of gold, status, and power.

  • @neoguderp8279
    @neoguderp8279 10 місяців тому

    very cool video very neat analysis just want to say 6:53 that joke came out of nowhere and is 10/10

  • @MikesZanneN
    @MikesZanneN 10 місяців тому

    Very glad I found this! Well considered, and had me shocked how easy to digest all of this was!

  • @pessimisticnihilist3691
    @pessimisticnihilist3691 10 місяців тому +1

    I think that a fundamental part of fear and hunger is its basis on Berserk. To not mention it leaves an incomplete evaluation of the story.
    D'arce is literally Caska (Except Caska is not with Griffith for necessarily moral reasons and does not love him, she is just obsessed.)
    Le'garde is literally Griffith.
    Ragnvaldr is literally Guts (Except he is like a bear instead of a wolf, and he suffers far less.)
    All the way down to how Ragnvaldr's new god form is so similar to the berserker armour/beast of darkness (Motifs of an animal biting down and consuming the host, forcing them to become lost in their own rage and wrath.)

  • @alexandragabitto2573
    @alexandragabitto2573 10 місяців тому

    Would just like to add that in Ragnvaldr’s case, it’s highly implied he cannibalizes the corpses of his enemies…

  • @ItsSayrn
    @ItsSayrn 3 місяці тому

    Even if they are “old gods” they are still far stronger than any “new gods” which is sad

  • @Eener1000
    @Eener1000 8 місяців тому

    This mirrors the Berserk universe where anyone seeking quick power finds it to be impotent power where all their power is superficial, but they lost themselves and their true innerstrength and become both embodiments and slaves to their desires (apostles)

  • @neetar1701
    @neetar1701 10 місяців тому

    This was so interesting to listen to! Thank you for you work. Plz make more Fear and Hunger content

  • @hishtroymemequez840
    @hishtroymemequez840 6 місяців тому

    God do I just LOVE fear and hunger lore

  • @NoU-jc4kq
    @NoU-jc4kq 8 місяців тому

    It still makes me sad how Cahara is the only one who doesn't get out of the Dungeon for the God of Fear and Hunger to exist in Termina. The only thing left to hope for is that his family lives on anyway even without him, even more, so I hope his actions meant something and helped his family along the way so that he didn't die in vain.

  • @timwest277
    @timwest277 10 місяців тому +1

    Great explanation, I enjoyed it.

  • @jonbigcawk
    @jonbigcawk 10 місяців тому +2

    Thank you for the video, my hunger is satiated.................for now.

  • @Henbot
    @Henbot 10 місяців тому

    His family crest scar on his body also looks like berserk brand of sacrifice

  • @adrianrui
    @adrianrui 6 місяців тому

    I would love to hear your interpretation of the "canon" ending based on termina (enki, d'arce and rag getting their s endings and Cahara getting the A ending) because Cahara being the most likely of the four to bring the girl to the depths and die despite being the one with the most to lose fucks me up

  • @saulogilio7749
    @saulogilio7749 10 місяців тому +2

    Cahara: shirtless
    D'arce: *bald*

  • @AFE-pens
    @AFE-pens 10 місяців тому +1

    What a beautiful video, good job

  • @jazsebastian
    @jazsebastian 9 місяців тому

    Wow, great video, so interesting well written and beautifully spoken! :)

  • @wayfareangel
    @wayfareangel 10 місяців тому

    You have got an amazing voice. The video was a fun watch, and fun to listen to. Thanks for sharing!

  • @rondonscorcho5516
    @rondonscorcho5516 10 місяців тому +1

    Why is that human hydra speaking like somebody in a COD lobby. 😂

  • @alsoviperlicious
    @alsoviperlicious 5 місяців тому

    11:45 how you gonna mention Berserk without mentioning Berserk xD lol dw I still subbed; your soft spoken cadence makes these videos perfect for naptime rewatches

  • @makhaihusband6131
    @makhaihusband6131 10 місяців тому +1

    Love the Fear and Hunger content!

  • @marcofemto9417
    @marcofemto9417 23 дні тому +1

    Because there is only one God

  • @gaaaah962
    @gaaaah962 6 місяців тому

    clearly Dar'ce losing her hair during her ascension is a One Punch Man reference

  • @maskedknight_0725
    @maskedknight_0725 10 місяців тому

    YOU HAVE A UA-cam CHANNEL WHERE THE TOPICS ARE DISCUSSED LONGER, LE TSS GO