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  • API Stress Coat conditioner (Amazon): geni.us/BHYeb
    No problems establishing a full cycle when using that one...
    I'd imagine that only a very small percentage of viewers will acknowledge what I am saying in this video and that's OK - just think about it please.
    If you have to do huge weekly water changes to keep the aquarium water good then the biological environment of the system is not diverse enough and is not functioning how it should.
    A huge reason for that could simply be the choice of water conditioner since anything claiming to 'remove / detoxify / bind' the ammonia, nitrite and nitrate will generally have the unfortunate side effect of starving the bacteria.
    When the bacteria is on a starvation diet it does not fully populate the filter media, substrate or anywhere else it would normally call home and therefore is not present in large enough numbers to process all the ammonia, nitrite and nitrate.
    The nitrate is especially difficult to reduce since it relies on anaerobic / anoxic (v. low / no oxygen) bacterial processes to do so.
    That would normally occur deep in substrate or deep inside suitably porous filter media (e.g. Biohome) where the water flow is extremely slow (and becomes deoxygenated by the aerobic processes on the way to low / static flow zones).
    If you 'need' to add bacteria after every water change or 'need' to do 80% water changes it tells you that the filter is not working properly and if everything looks suitably sized and well set up it could be time to try changing the conditioner.
    Using a simple dechlorinator will make water safe for life but will not mess with the essential food bacteria needs to prosper.
    This has been demonstrated so many times when I've had emails from people struggling to achieve a full cycle (with high nitrate levels), I suggest trying a normal conditioner then I get another email a few months later reporting that the nitrate has come down to 0-5ppm indicating that the full cycle has been achieved.
    It bugs me when I see people either not using enough suitable filter media for the tank size and stocking situation or using damaging conditioners / treatments then complaining that a full cycle is impossible and therefore any talk of it is 'pseudoscience' or lies.
    A full cycle (reduction in nitrate) is a simple Natural process which happens in every pond, stream and river and is perfectly achievable in any aquarium set up.
    Obviously the closer the aquarium is set up to replicate Nature the more chance of a full cycle there will be, even with minimal filtration but for most 'normal' set ups with a moderate to heavy stock of fish and minimal or no plants the pressure is on the filtration to process the ammonia, nitrite and nitrate - that's why I spend so many hours filming videos on filters and filtration.
    Hopefully that makes sense - I feel like Beachamps trying to educate people who only know of Pasteur and if anyone wants me to make a video on Terrain Theory vs. Germ Theory just let me know in the comment section since it is critical to understand those different views that to see what is happening with aquariums and filtration.
    I'll make that video anyway, lol
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  • @pondguru
    @pondguru  9 місяців тому +2

    API Stress Coat conditioner (Amazon): geni.us/BHYeb
    No problems establishing a full cycle when using that one...
    I'd imagine that only a very small percentage of viewers will acknowledge what I am saying in this video and that's OK - just think about it please.
    If you have to do huge weekly water changes to keep the aquarium water good then the biological environment of the system is not diverse enough and is not functioning how it should.
    A huge reason for that could simply be the choice of water conditioner since anything claiming to 'remove / detoxify / bind' the ammonia, nitrite and nitrate will generally have the unfortunate side effect of starving the bacteria.
    When the bacteria is on a starvation diet it does not fully populate the filter media, substrate or anywhere else it would normally call home and therefore is not present in large enough numbers to process all the ammonia, nitrite and nitrate.
    The nitrate is especially difficult to reduce since it relies on anaerobic / anoxic (v. low / no oxygen) bacterial processes to do so.
    That would normally occur deep in substrate or deep inside suitably porous filter media (e.g. Biohome) where the water flow is extremely slow (and becomes deoxygenated by the aerobic processes on the way to low / static flow zones).
    If you 'need' to add bacteria after every water change or 'need' to do 80% water changes it tells you that the filter is not working properly and if everything looks suitably sized and well set up it could be time to try changing the conditioner.
    Using a simple dechlorinator will make water safe for life but will not mess with the essential food bacteria needs to prosper.
    This has been demonstrated so many times when I've had emails from people struggling to achieve a full cycle (with high nitrate levels), I suggest trying a normal conditioner then I get another email a few months later reporting that the nitrate has come down to 0-5ppm indicating that the full cycle has been achieved.
    It bugs me when I see people either not using enough suitable filter media for the tank size and stocking situation or using damaging conditioners / treatments then complaining that a full cycle is impossible and therefore any talk of it is 'pseudoscience' or lies.
    A full cycle (reduction in nitrate) is a simple Natural process which happens in every pond, stream and river and is perfectly achievable in any aquarium set up.
    Obviously the closer the aquarium is set up to replicate Nature the more chance of a full cycle there will be, even with minimal filtration but for most 'normal' set ups with a moderate to heavy stock of fish and minimal or no plants the pressure is on the filtration to process the ammonia, nitrite and nitrate - that's why I spend so many hours filming videos on filters and filtration.
    Hopefully that makes sense - I feel like Beachamps trying to educate people who only know of Pasteur and if anyone wants me to make a video on Terrain Theory vs. Germ Theory just let me know in the comment section since it is critical to understand those different views that to see what is happening with aquariums and filtration.
    I'll make that video anyway, lol
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    • @DanBlackroyd
      @DanBlackroyd 4 місяці тому

      Great video, really enjoy your common sense approach to this hobby. I find the industry at large to be fairly predatory in nature, especially to newcomers and see too many people being ripped off with a bombardment of product they must use to achieve a healthy tank/pond, I like the simple approach

    • @ThousandYardStare
      @ThousandYardStare 4 місяці тому +2

      @@DanBlackroyd (my other channel) The industry is very predatory and in the last decade or so there has unfortunately been a proliferation of filters which require monthly / bi-monthly replacement cartridges to keep them running - it's all nonsense.
      It's the same with water conditioners. If a company can convince trusting people that it is the best but it has a huge detrimental side-effect which will lead to the sale of more (unnecessary) treatments then that's the perfect (pharmaceutical) business model for them. Luckily there aren't many companies currently selling conditioners which they know adversely affect bacteria and since the main manufacturer of such a thing is very litigious I'd just repeat the advice to avoid anything which claims to remove / detoxify / bind ammonia, nitrite and nitrate if you want your filter and aquarium system to operate at maximum biological efficiency.
      There is no lie in Nature but $cientists can be bought just as easily as politicians as was proved by the events of 2020 onward (the plandemic) - unfortunately science has lost all credibility now and will hopefully never regain the public's trust.
      Basically if you have a suitably sized filter for the tank and the stock and the filter is well set up with good media the water will be perfect. Unfortunately the manufacturers of most of the filters greatly overestimate how much water / stock their filters will cope with which leads to users buying something which is half as big as they need then fighting a constant battle to keep the water 'good' and prevent their fish dying.
      It doesn't have to be this way and that's why I have spent so long making the 'Pimp My Filter' series of videos so that people hopefully choose a filter which is realistic to their situation.
      ....I realize that I'm fighting an uphill battle in that respect but the important information definitely needs to be put on the record and I'm hoping (maybe foolishly) in 20+ years I'll see loads of 'influencers' and UA-cam stars talking about the full (authentic) cycle. Until then they will continue collecting pay checks for being paid 'influencers' for pharmaceutical companies and I will keep spending my children's inheritance on making videos for my channel trying to educate people, lol
      (apologies if that reply was a bit of a shotgun blast but I'm passionate about people being taken for fools and being taken advantage of - this industry is filled with absolute nonsense and fake information. If I can be a spanner in the works of their operations I'll keep going and being a thorn in their sides since I hate seeing people wasting hard earned money on nonsensical products which are merely masking the side-effects of products sold as being some sort of magic bullet)

    • @DanBlackroyd
      @DanBlackroyd 4 місяці тому

      @@ThousandYardStare no apologies needed, that was valuable knowledge, I wish more people in the industry and on UA-cam had the same nature. Thanks for the Pimp My Filter series, I bought an Aquael Ultramax 1500 based off the video you made for the 2000 model and how much media could fit into the canister, the videos really helped me choose the best filter for the needs of my 250 litre (ish) tank for a stable tank environment. Thanks again for all the work you do

    • @pondguru
      @pondguru  4 місяці тому

      @@DanBlackroyd That is awesome to hear and stable conditions are critical to long term success.
      All the best for 2024 and beyond.

  • @cassiya100
    @cassiya100 6 місяців тому +1

    I love this guy.. speaks the truth and very informative.

    • @ThousandYardStare
      @ThousandYardStare 6 місяців тому +1

      (my other channel) I'm glad you found the video useful - thanks for watching.

  • @elliotborst
    @elliotborst 3 місяці тому +1

    Do you have any thing to backup these claims about SeaChem Prime? Because from what I’ve seen. A lot of people claim it doesn’t bind up ammonia and that the lie, but you are saying it does bind it up and in doing so it stops the beneficial bacteria from consuming it.
    Which is it? Does it work or not.

    • @pondguru
      @pondguru  3 місяці тому +1

      It works as intended as a conditioner but in 10+ years of dealing with systems achieving a full cycle the one constant factor when people struggle is seachem prime. That would indicate that it is having a retarding / starving effect on the bacteria.
      If you look at any seachem forum there will be a nation of people still struggling to get 0 ammoinia and 0 nitrite after 7-8 weeks which is ridiculous - the 'solution' offered is for them to buy Stability and overdose the tank with that 'treatment' until there is 0 ammonia and 0 nitrite.
      The conditioner choice also works the other way too as I've had loads of people who had previously had a perfect cycle 0,0,0 contact me and ask if the biohome had stopped working since their nitrate was suddenly high - the common factor? they had changed from a normal conditioner to prime. The solution? change the conditioner back to a normal conditioner. The result? a perfect cycle is resumed.
      This post has some great comments on it: ua-cam.com/users/postUgkxFdgRRt6GxA1o3ffDzsF5dbOaB5xAuoFX
      ....and here is one in particular which is similar to messages I get every day:
      --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
      @leytonaustin2359
      3 weeks ago
      I went to Biohome and set my pumps up exactly like you suggest after discussing and researching a couple of years ago. After nearly killing my discus with a massive ammonia spike, and using Seachem Prime, I spoke to you who suggested water changing to get rid of the prime and trusting the media. I’ve not had an issue since, and last time I checked, both my tanks, both with FX6’s brimmed to the fullest with Biohome, are fully cycled and 0,0,0, at most 0,0,10.
      Thanks for the help!
      ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
      If you look at channels which are 'ambassadors' for the seachem products they are generally doing massive weekly water changes (up to 80%) on their cichlid tanks - that shows you that they've effectively killed their filter.

  • @joelninnes790
    @joelninnes790 5 місяців тому

    I changed over to API Stress Coat from Seachem Prime in my Ranchu aquarium after watching this, two months in and I’m not seeing the fluctuations in levels I had and I’ve got low and steady Nitrate levels now, which are slowly reducing week on week.
    I think I’ll stay clear of Seachem products now.
    Many thanks!

    • @joelninnes790
      @joelninnes790 5 місяців тому

      Though I have used Prime to relieve the effects of an emergency in fish cycle when setting up a quarantine tank, and this had some great effect with less stress on the fish. So maybe if used for a fish in cycle is effective to start the cycle before changing over, so I can’t knock it completely but in the long haul the API conditioner seems to be winning.

    • @pondguru
      @pondguru  5 місяців тому +1

      Thanks for the honest report regarding the Seachem Prime. It's definitely something which can be used to fix the problems it causes but considering how quick the beneficial bacteria can populate a tank and filter when they aren't held back it's always best to set up a new tank using water and filter media from an old (established) tank if that is possible.
      Although it does bind the elevated levels of pollutants in a pre-cycled tank it effectively acts to delay the bacteria development by doing so which will generally require further 'treatments' to solve the problem (which should never have been a problem in the first place).
      Small regular water changes (using a normal water conditioner) will keep the pollutant levels at a safe level during cycling and ensure that all the pollutants (bacteria food) are available for the bacteria to consume and turn into less harmful pollutants.
      Unfortunately the human instinct is to panic and look for an instant fix (e.g. Prime) but that generally comes with more severe consequences further down the line.
      'Safe and Effective' never is. Especially when you have chemical / pharmaceutical companies getting paid at every point in the journey from what should have been a simple process all the way through to death.
      It is a simple Problem, Reaction, Solution scenario but most people are not aware of that Higelian Dialectic or Terrain Theory as it is something we (intentionally) don't get taught during our time in child concentration camps ('school'). If we are unaware of these things we are always going to be customers for life.
      Avoid the 'Problem' and there will be no 'Reaction', requiring no (costly) 'Solution'. When you have the same company or 'authority' controlling the Problem, Reaction and the Solution you know it's crooked.
      Apologies if that was a bit heavy - maybe I should do a few videos to explain the Higelian Dialectic and Germ Theory vs Terrain Theory since it is extremely important to not only fish keeping but also our every day lives. The only problem I can foresee doing that is that my channel gets completely deleted (as opposed to just being shadow banned) since they are subjects which are very dangerous to the 'establishment' and the control mechanisms which bleed us dry financially and energetically.

  • @robo7767
    @robo7767 9 місяців тому

    You are the best!

    • @pondguru
      @pondguru  9 місяців тому

      We both know that's not true but thanks for the compliment, lol

  • @gmoorach
    @gmoorach 9 місяців тому +1

    I find most water conditioners on the market bind ammonia (convert it to ammonium). This is because the chemical reaction that neutralizes chlorine and/or chloramine results in ammonia as a byproduct. So, the goal is to make the ammonia safe until it can be metabolized by the the beneficial bacteria. Everything I've read tells me the same bacteria that metabolize ammonia also does so for ammonium. (One source was a micro biologist.) So, the bacteria is not "starved". I wish instead of anecdotal evidence, someone had a more scientific explanation for what interferes with the development or effectiveness of the anaerobic bacteria the will break down nitrate. Also, at any given time there is a balance of ammonia and ammonium in the aquarium. The ratio is governed by pH. At one point, I think I heard someone suggested that resins that scavenge nitrogenous compounds (a commonly used chemical filter media) prevent the development of the de-nitrifying anaerobic bacteria. In my professional life I'm an engineer. So, I really wish someone could explain it all in scientific terms.

    • @pondguru
      @pondguru  9 місяців тому +1

      I also wish for that but when the behemoth corporations are producing the 'science' we're probably not going to get any true information from recognized sources. The companies producing the Trojan Horse treatments are certainly not going to admit that they use their best seller to work as a cash cow by selling so many unnecessary treatments on the back of it.
      While thousands of feedback reports from people all over the world stating that they can't achieve a full cycle, change conditioner than achieve a full cycle is compelling evidence for anyone who trusts the human experience it's not going to hold any weight with anyone who wants a published study from a recognized source.
      We're certainly not going to see any true information about treatments or media when social media 'influencers' are being paid to be ambassadors for the main brands - they just parrot whatever they're paid to say.
      It is a very unfortunate situation.

  • @NightFlight1973
    @NightFlight1973 7 місяців тому

    Geeze.
    I change / clean usually a month or more between. I just use a simple de-chlorination. That's it. Otherwise the only other things that go in is tap water, fish, fish foods, plant foods for roots and water column, and those last two are home made. No issues.

    • @pondguru
      @pondguru  7 місяців тому

      Keeping it simple is the key to success - a properly sized filter which is well set up with good media, a good environment for the fish, sensible stock and a good maintenance schedule.
      That's all the keys to a good tank.

  • @oldeunclebobby
    @oldeunclebobby 9 місяців тому +1

    Thanks for agreeing to not be popular and to instead give sound advice. I first kept fish in 1965 and have seen so much, yet it seems aside from magnetic drive pumps, silicone, submersible heaters and filter media (has made advances and I appreciate and use your product), very little has actually changed. There were always these trojan horse products which promised you could neglect things for a magic miracle trouble free 'cure'. Nothing will take the place so far as observing fish behavior, measuring and recording water parameters, and good common sense.

    • @pondguru
      @pondguru  9 місяців тому

      100% - the further we get away from a Natural set-ups the more 'need' there is for additional 'treatments' when in truth they are not needed at all.

  • @7511fsm
    @7511fsm 9 місяців тому

    I don't know if I'm lucky or uninformed, but I've never used any seachem products in my tank. Always have only used stress coat +. I only top my water off and never do water changes. Just vacuum occasionally. Clear water all the time with bright healthy cardinal tetras. Have had bio home ultimate in my fx4 for my 40 gallon breeder for a few years now. No issues whatsoever.

    • @pondguru
      @pondguru  9 місяців тому

      Sounds good to me - thanks for the report.

    • @7511fsm
      @7511fsm 9 місяців тому

      @@pondguru Thanks for responding Richard. Common sense is so rare these days it should be considered a super power.

    • @pondguru
      @pondguru  9 місяців тому

      @@7511fsm It's becoming that way. Every time I go to my local town there are more zombies.

  • @theunissmith7545
    @theunissmith7545 9 місяців тому +1

    Pond update my man!!!

    • @pondguru
      @pondguru  9 місяців тому

      When I get all the vegetation cut back from around it I will probably do an update but it's been quite neglected this year since we've been having an extension built and I've had a nation of other projects to concentrate on too.

    • @NathanCroweththefirst
      @NathanCroweththefirst Місяць тому

      any job vacancies available? 😆

  • @TheGilbertFamilyonline
    @TheGilbertFamilyonline 4 місяці тому +1

    Kaveman Aquatics is notorious for promoting Prime and swears it doesnt slow down the cycling process when you use it, and basically says blah blah blah heard it all before wheres the proof, well from my experience of being conned into using that stuff was it prevents the bacteria from having its full food source i.e ammonia nitrite nitrate and in turn it knocks the cycling time back months. Id say its only good for emergencies but id never use it in my main tank as it will most definitely cock up the cycling or cycle, thats my experience using it. So yes Richard you are correct in everything you say here and youve repeated it in many other videos too, it just doesnt get through to some people and he's a seachem ambassador anyway so yep these people are paid to push these products out there for them to pull the wool over everyones eyes.

    • @pondguru
      @pondguru  4 місяці тому

      Unfortunately you're 100% right and whenever anyone running a moderately successful channel sells out to a corporation they become a mouth-piece for whatever the corporation wants to push to the viewers where the only real beneficiary is the corporation.
      You'll never see me condemning Kaveman Aquatics (or a nation of similar channels) since 99% of channels do sell out and go the route of the 'ambassador' / 'sponsor' / 'supporter's exclusive content' / 'join button' type of income generation since it is the easy option and UA-cam promotes those channels over any channel which doesn't sell out.
      Considering how hard things are now with the free-falling Western financial system I don't blame anyone for selling out but it's something I will never do since I have an independent source of income and I don't want any 'dirty' money. I'd rather have no money than money generated from deception.
      The worse the financial system gets the more people will sell out which is why UA-cam is no longer a reliable source of information. It's not a good situation but it is what it is and with regard to Kaveman Aquatics I've got no animosity toward him - I wish him the best for his channel as there is some good content on there among the 80% weekly water changes and paid-for product promotion nonsense.
      As long as he's making videos he has the option of being honest and truthful so that option is always open to him so at some point he may come back to being authentic.
      Added to that, he has a fantastically manicured goatee beard which I could only dream of replicating - mine always looks like a mess compared to his beard. I'm embarrassed to see my poorly manicured beard on UA-cam as I always look like a redneck no matter how hard I try.

    • @TheGilbertFamilyonline
      @TheGilbertFamilyonline 4 місяці тому

      @@pondguru it is what it is like you say Richard, you know it's true, I know it's true, let people do what they want and make the mistakes I surely made listening to that crap, I've already sent him a message regarding this topic of the conditioner and how it's misleading people, he isn't interested as to be expected. I will also say I have no personal issue with the guy I also do enjoy 90 percent of his content but when I feel so strongly about this issue as you do I can't just stay silent. Like I say let people buy it me personally will stick with stress coat which doesn't fart around with the most important part of the system, the heart of the filter, the beneficial bacteria. We don't live too far from eachother either Richard im over Wallsend way we've spoke a few times over the phone. Keep doing what you doing mate.

    • @pondguru
      @pondguru  4 місяці тому

      @@TheGilbertFamilyonline That's cool and I've been down to Wallsend many times for some epic football battles with the Boy's Club vs son's football club. One of the matches got abandoned as it turned violent after about 20 minutes and even the parents nearly came to blows. Cramlington Reds was always another fixture which had problems since the officials were also criminally biased.
      Yeah, I always live in the hope that people will wake up and see what is real but considering that 90% of people in this world seem to be Non-Playable Characters (NPC's) I'm not holding out much hope for the future, lol
      As long as I can do what I do and look out for my family I've done enough and I'll have no problems sleeping at night.

  • @mediscusnut7994
    @mediscusnut7994 9 місяців тому +1

    NOTHING WRONG WITH THE TRUTH .and i totally get your frustration ,took Richards advice a long time ago and never had a problem since ,problem is some pet store workers still push the so called best conditioner when i am buying a basic one ,they can,t understand my explanation .Tell it as it is ,I hope more and more people see your channel and take on your advise ,great channel and always great content .All the best.

    • @pondguru
      @pondguru  9 місяців тому +3

      Thanks for that feedback - yes, it is unbelievable to see people having so many problems and consuming so many additional unnecessary treatments when using something which is regarded as being 'safe and effective'.
      Maybe the events of the last 2-3 years will wake people up, lol

  • @Mark9150
    @Mark9150 8 місяців тому

    thanks to this guy im only topping of the water that evaporates, i dont even need to treat it cuz i pour the water 2 days ahead of time and let the chorine evaporate in the room over these 2 days time. And if i do go for like a reset of another tank or if i would have a super heavy loaded one that just needs it on the regular (not recommended that anyone should overstock a tank btw) i use a cheap-ass one that only removes chlorine and does absolutly nothing to help with nitrates and stuff. Dont mess with stuff you dont understand. I've noticed in nature and all it's things. it's much better to let it go. leave it at peace and be godamn patient. Cuz we all know that's one of the most common things around here, and im telling you, impatience. kills.

    • @ThousandYardStare
      @ThousandYardStare 8 місяців тому

      (my other channel) Good one, man - it sounds like you definitely recognize the difference between Germ Theory and Terrain Theory - Terrain wins every time as it is tied to Nature instead of being toed to pharmaceuticals.

  • @keverton123
    @keverton123 9 місяців тому

    so how do you remove chlorine/chloramine from tap water without conditioners? i use prime because my 450 litre only uses a cap full per water change where as with others you need 10 bottles.

    • @pondguru
      @pondguru  9 місяців тому

      All the common conditioners will remove those. The only damaging ones (for the cycle) are the types which 'detoxify / bind / remove' ammonia, nitrite and nitrate.
      How large are the water changes you're doing if you would need 10 bottles of a normal conditioner?

    • @Kvickification
      @Kvickification 8 місяців тому

      @@pondguru Do you have any experience with Tetra Aquasafe causing any problems? It is the only easily available conditioner beside Seachem Prime for me.

    • @pondguru
      @pondguru  8 місяців тому +1

      @@Kvickification The Aquasafe is very much a 'normal' conditioner and I've not heard of any problems when using that one.

    • @Kvickification
      @Kvickification 8 місяців тому

      @@pondguru Awesome, thanks! Ill use that from now on, thanks for keeping us well informed!

    • @NathanCroweththefirst
      @NathanCroweththefirst Місяць тому

      what are you talking about? API stress coat is 5ml per 40l, hardly multiple bottles each time.

  • @steg245
    @steg245 9 місяців тому

    If you read seachems FAQ about prime, they readily admit that there is no evidence whatsoever that it has any effect on nitrite or nitrate. They admit they have no idea how it works if indeed it actually does.

    • @pondguru
      @pondguru  9 місяців тому +2

      lol, I haven't seen that but it was actually their own (sponsored) forums which got me into asking the question about their conditioners to people struggling to achieve a full cycle.
      There were endless reports on forums of people still struggling to achieve the aerobic side of the cycle (reduction in ammonia and nitrite) after months of trying and they were just told to use more of their product.
      Instead of treating the symptoms I would like to see them address the cause but that's not going to generate income.....

  • @Les-OZZYTHEOSCAR
    @Les-OZZYTHEOSCAR 9 місяців тому

    The truth is reached through trials and data that become facts, lies are not backed up with data and therefore should be open to question, not shut down.. You are liked a lot by many of the best people so don't you forget that my friend

    • @pondguru
      @pondguru  9 місяців тому +2

      100% - I can't get my head around the blind faith people have in companies who see them as a lifetime customer but that's the world we live in now.
      Common sense isn't too common any more and now we have people raging on behalf of the machine instead of raging against the machine.

  • @mrdave9315
    @mrdave9315 8 місяців тому

    I wasn't one to be double dibble dabbed 😅
    I do a 60% water change every two weeks
    Two terrapins and 10 fish water is crystal clear and reasonably healthy

    • @ThousandYardStare
      @ThousandYardStare 8 місяців тому

      (my other channel) Good stuff - thanks for the report.

  • @mrdave9315
    @mrdave9315 8 місяців тому +1

    P.s love the show
    No nonsense just the facts
    Critical thinking 101

    • @ThousandYardStare
      @ThousandYardStare 8 місяців тому +1

      (my other channel) The indoctrination of the schooling system didn't stick so I've always been able to see things through a thinkers eyes. Unfortunately that has resulted in times in the past where I've been attacked online for that vision but since I see so many people experiencing the same (especially since the fake events of 2020) I know I'm not alone. That is a very good feeling and I'd love to see the day where everyone could ignore propaganda and think for themselves.
      Sadly that will never happen, lol

  • @robertcopeland1162
    @robertcopeland1162 9 місяців тому

    You do have fans. I am getting rid of Prime. Never thought of it the way you put it.

    • @pondguru
      @pondguru  9 місяців тому

      While I recognise that fans are part of being online I don't like to think of people as looking up to me in any way - I'm just some guy who has different interests and cares about what people are doing. All I want is that fish keepers adopt the best practices to keep fish happy and healthy and they don't spend a penny more than necessary to achieve those goals.
      Thanks for watching and appreciating the videos.

  • @mtourgus
    @mtourgus 9 місяців тому

    You’re never going to get on the Seachem payroll 😂

    • @pondguru
      @pondguru  9 місяців тому +1

      I'm sure I could lie my way onto the payroll but my soul would be lost at that point, lol

  • @dascudder
    @dascudder 9 місяців тому +1

    I've never understood why people keep using Seachem Prime as a tap water conditioner when it also removes ammonia. It's crazy to me. And people go nuts for that Prime. Bokners

    • @pondguru
      @pondguru  9 місяців тому +1

      To be fair the marketing is very good and with all the paid shills online acting as 'ambassadors' it's probably futile to try and educate people about the side effects - I'm just happy to suggest a simple change of conditioner to anyone struggling to achieve a full cycle and then being pleased when I get a report back 2-3 months later to hear they now have 0-5ppm nitrate.
      It's a great feeling that I wish more would experience.

    • @WHTFSayonara
      @WHTFSayonara 9 місяців тому +1

      In my understanding people like prime because it's highly concentrated and you dont need to buy it constantly. 10ml treats 400L. What would be good product to use instead? What side/down effects does prime have? I have not seen any problems starting new aquariums or maintain any of mine in the last 3 years :o

    • @WHTFSayonara
      @WHTFSayonara 9 місяців тому

      ​@@pondguruwhat product should I use instead? I live in Finland. Have used prime for 3 years and zero problems starting or maintaining my aquariums. I buy prime because its concentrated 10ml treats 400L. 1L bottle lasts a long time.

    • @dascudder
      @dascudder 9 місяців тому +1

      @@WHTFSayonara API Tap Safe. £10 for nearly half a litre. 5ml cap does my 240 Litre water change. I'd rather pay more and just treat the tap water and not starve my bacteria. Still, API tap safe is chepaer so that's a moot point :) Not to mention it doesn't smell like crap hahahaha

    • @WHTFSayonara
      @WHTFSayonara 9 місяців тому

      @@dascudder any suggestions for a product thats available in Finland/EU? Can't seem to find API products here :( mostly prime, tetra, jbl and hobby

  • @-EchoesIntoEternity-
    @-EchoesIntoEternity- 9 місяців тому +2

    how informative without being informative

    • @pondguru
      @pondguru  9 місяців тому

      Yes, openly attacking a product is not good practice with the amount of fanboys online who have endless time to spam the comment section but I think everyone watching will know conditioner which is the main culprit, lol

    • @-EchoesIntoEternity-
      @-EchoesIntoEternity- 9 місяців тому

      @@pondguru reading the comments now i see what you are talking about. i was too early to your video curious what it was about. ive never used that product before🤷‍♂ then again i dont need to do weekly or bi-weekly water changes. that sounds like a drab chore poor fishkeeping lol.

    • @ThousandYardStare
      @ThousandYardStare 9 місяців тому

      @@-EchoesIntoEternity- Good one - sounds like you've got it set up well.

    • @PeterKnopp-ih8ie
      @PeterKnopp-ih8ie 8 місяців тому

      Hi Richard so how much and how often would you say do water changes please?

    • @ThousandYardStare
      @ThousandYardStare 8 місяців тому +1

      @@PeterKnopp-ih8ie Every week the tank should be cleaned using a gravel cleaner to remove any uneaten food and fish waste and that will also drop out a percentage of the water which will be replaced to keep the tank mineralised and freshened up.
      As far as a percentage of water change goes that would normally be 10%-15% or 20%-25% for a deeper clean once every few months. Every tank is different so there is no concrete rules.