Pimp My Filter #84 - SunSun HW-5000 Canister Filter
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- Опубліковано 12 жов 2023
- Worldwide Amazon link: geni.us/doI1R3C
Filter Kits, Foams, Biohome, Biogravel etc: www.filterpro.co.uk
(FilterPro site has links to Biohome suppliers in other countries)
Booster filter for canister filters: geni.us/2bj1
This is a well made filter which will easily hold 6.5kg (14.3 lbs) of Biohome Ultimate filter media making it suitable for a normally stocked tank of up to 650 litres (171 US gallons) or a heavily stocked tank of up to 325 litres (86 US gallons). That is assuming you're aiming to achieve a full cycle.
I may have got some of the figures slightly wrong in the video, saying 4500 instead of 4600 for example as my memory is not infallible.
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VERY IMPORTANT:
*Avoid using water conditioners which claim to bind / remove / detoxify ammonia, nitrite and nitrate as it will have a pronounced starving effect on the bacteria. When bacteria is starved the population will be low as it grows in line with the available 'food'.
A normal conditioner will allow the bacteria to fully populate the whole system and take away the 'need' to add more bacteria after maintenance / water change.
Most people get conned into regularly using bacteria additives and that is simply to mask the side effects from a damaging conditioner and a failing filter.
A normal conditioner like Tapsafe, Aquasafe, API Stress Coat etc. is all you need when a tank is properly set up, a filter is suitably sized (and properly set up) and Nature is allowed to so what Nature does.*
See below for notes on how much media is recommended for different stocking scenarios. The Q&A page of the FilterPro site has extensive notes on recommended treatments and how filtration works.
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The following videos will be useful for learning more about filtration and filter media:
Sizing a canister properly and filter set up: goo.gl/om19un
Looking INSIDE different filter media: goo.gl/hZWS6c
Bacteria and filter media: goo.gl/123gAF
How to clean an aquarium: goo.gl/bPMhvh
Aquarium tips / filtration playlist: goo.gl/pXgqVj
A full cycle is completed by bacteria - the aerobic part of biological filtration which processes ammonia to nitrite and nitrite to nitrate followed by an anaerobic part which processes nitrate into soluble nitrogen which bubbles off to the atmosphere.
Therefore it requires a suitable amount of excellent quality filter media to be able to provide the environment for both aerobic AND anaerobic bacteria - that is what Biohome filter media does perfectly but even with such good media there are limitations and we recommend the following amounts for different stocking scenarios:
(1 US Gallon = 3.8 litres)
(1kg = 2.2 lbs)
Average community tropical aquarium = 1kg per 100 litres
Average coldwater aquarium = 1kg - 1.5kg per 100 litres
Predator aquarium = 1.5kg - 2kg per 100 litres
Large cichlid aquarium = 1.5kg - 2kg per 100 litres
Malawi / Tanganyikan aquarium = 1.5kg - 2kg per 100 litres
Marine aquarium = 1.5kg - 2kg per 100 litres
Average mixed fish pond = 1kg per 200 litres
Average koi pond = 1kg per 150 litres
You may be disagreeing with the above figures but remember that they are for a FULL CYCLE not half a job - achieving 0 ammonia and 0 nitrite is quite easy since aerobic bacteria grows freely on any surface but the anaerobic bacteria responsible for COMPLETING the cycle needs more a specialized habitat.
Remember to use a water conditioner which does not bind / detoxify ammonia, nitrite or nitrate as that type of conditioner will severely limit bacteria numbers by starving the bacteria of 'food'.
Size a filter properly, set it up sensibly and you will have perfect water - it's that simple....and your filter won't be the dreaded 'Nitrate factory'.....you'll spend less money on treatments too......basically the filter is the foundation of a successful aquarium.
This series of videos is all about trying to squeeze more efficiency out of internal and external aquarium filters which generally have a limited filtering capacity
We all are on a long path of learning.........
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INSTAGRAM: / pondguru_outdoors
Some of the links above may be to my affiliate programs on Amazon and Ebay so they will throw a few pennies my way if you make a purchase - it costs you nothing extra and helps towards keeping the lights on in my bunker. - Домашні улюбленці та дикі тварини
Worldwide Amazon link: geni.us/doI1R3C
Filter Kits, Foams, Biohome, Biogravel etc: www.filterpro.co.uk
(FilterPro site has links to Biohome suppliers in other countries)
Booster filter for canister filters: geni.us/2bj1
This is a well made filter which will easily hold 6.5kg (14.3 lbs) of Biohome Ultimate filter media making it suitable for a normally stocked tank of up to 650 litres (171 US gallons) or a heavily stocked tank of up to 325 litres (86 US gallons). That is assuming you're aiming to achieve a full cycle.
I may have got some of the figures slightly wrong in the video, saying 4500 instead of 4600 for example as my memory is not infallible.
Trojan Horse Treatments video: ua-cam.com/video/1YCtMYZQlig/v-deo.html
Thousand Yard Stare channel: ua-cam.com/channels/1pgJBGQrUfCUAhk63U5u5A.html
VERY IMPORTANT:
*Avoid using water conditioners which claim to bind / remove / detoxify ammonia, nitrite and nitrate as it will have a pronounced starving effect on the bacteria. When bacteria is starved the population will be low as it grows in line with the available 'food'.
A normal conditioner will allow the bacteria to fully populate the whole system and take away the 'need' to add more bacteria after maintenance / water change.
Most people get conned into regularly using bacteria additives and that is simply to mask the side effects from a damaging conditioner and a failing filter.
A normal conditioner like Tapsafe, Aquasafe, API Stress Coat etc. is all you need when a tank is properly set up, a filter is suitably sized (and properly set up) and Nature is allowed to so what Nature does.*
See below for notes on how much media is recommended for different stocking scenarios. The Q&A page of the FilterPro site has extensive notes on recommended treatments and how filtration works.
Follow me on Odysee: odysee.com/$/invite/@PondGuru:0
Contact me on 07772848730 / sales@filterpro.co.uk
*******(I don't do texts)*******
Don't "eat ze bugs" - grow your own food and create a new system ....... you can check out my efforts to create a new system to navigate Agenda 2030 on my Thousand Yard Stare channel: ua-cam.com/channels/1pgJBGQrUfCUAhk63U5u5A.html
The following videos will be useful for learning more about filtration and filter media:
Sizing a canister properly and filter set up: goo.gl/om19un
Looking INSIDE different filter media: goo.gl/hZWS6c
Bacteria and filter media: goo.gl/123gAF
How to clean an aquarium: goo.gl/bPMhvh
Aquarium tips / filtration playlist: goo.gl/pXgqVj
A full cycle is completed by bacteria - the aerobic part of biological filtration which processes ammonia to nitrite and nitrite to nitrate followed by an anaerobic part which processes nitrate into soluble nitrogen which bubbles off to the atmosphere.
Therefore it requires a suitable amount of excellent quality filter media to be able to provide the environment for both aerobic AND anaerobic bacteria - that is what Biohome filter media does perfectly but even with such good media there are limitations and we recommend the following amounts for different stocking scenarios:
(1 US Gallon = 3.8 litres)
(1kg = 2.2 lbs)
Average community tropical aquarium = 1kg per 100 litres
Average coldwater aquarium = 1kg - 1.5kg per 100 litres
Predator aquarium = 1.5kg - 2kg per 100 litres
Large cichlid aquarium = 1.5kg - 2kg per 100 litres
Malawi / Tanganyikan aquarium = 1.5kg - 2kg per 100 litres
Marine aquarium = 1.5kg - 2kg per 100 litres
Average mixed fish pond = 1kg per 200 litres
Average koi pond = 1kg per 150 litres
You may be disagreeing with the above figures but remember that they are for a FULL CYCLE not half a job - achieving 0 ammonia and 0 nitrite is quite easy since aerobic bacteria grows freely on any surface but the anaerobic bacteria responsible for COMPLETING the cycle needs more a specialized habitat.
Remember to use a water conditioner which does not bind / detoxify ammonia, nitrite or nitrate as that type of conditioner will severely limit bacteria numbers by starving the bacteria of 'food'.
Size a filter properly, set it up sensibly and you will have perfect water - it's that simple....and your filter won't be the dreaded 'Nitrate factory'.....you'll spend less money on treatments too......basically the filter is the foundation of a successful aquarium.
This series of videos is all about trying to squeeze more efficiency out of internal and external aquarium filters which generally have a limited filtering capacity
We all are on a long path of learning.........
RECOMMENDED PRODUCTS ON AMAZON: goo.gl/jMaBWy
INSTAGRAM: instagram.com/pondguru_outdoors/
Some of the links above may be to my affiliate programs on Amazon and Ebay so they will throw a few pennies my way if you make a purchase - it costs you nothing extra and helps towards keeping the lights on in my bunker.
I have two of these filters and have been using them for over two years. I have found them to be excellent.... easy to maintain & reliable. One of the main reasons I settled on the HW5000 was the ease of cleaning. I previously had two FX4 filters running in my two 320 litre tanks (129cmX60cmX45cm), both of which are heavily stocked with 10 discus in each plus a few bristlenose catfish & a smsll fleet of sterbai corys and moderately planted. I found it an ordeal having to remove ALL of the baskets to be able to clean the foam filters as I prefer to NOT disturb the bio-media too frequently. With the HW5000 I simply remove the top, drain only enough water to expose the topmost basket containing the sponges, remove them, clean them, replace the basket & close the filter. I have managed to put 7.5 kilos of mixed bio-media into the bottom two baskets. I maybe only "rinse" the bio-media baskets (lightly) every 6-8months. The hoses themselves, I think, are better than the Fluval hoses as they are smooth on the inside, not corrugated, and seem to accumulate less "gunk". However, there is a known issue the end fittings, which are prone to leak due to failure of the adhesive, which fixes them to the actual hose itself. The shut-off valves can be tricky also and need to be treated carefully as they can leak. Even with these shortcomings, I still consider the filter to be an excellent choice. Hope this feedback is helpful.
(my other channel) That is a great detailed report so thanks for that. Hopefully it will help many people who are contemplating getting this filter.
I'll swap accounts now back to my PondGuru channel and heart your comment so it should get pushed up in the comments.
Thanks very much - so few people actually take the time to write a comment based on their experience so I love it whenever anyone takes the time to do so.
@@ThousandYardStare There you go - I feel schizophrenic now....
We love the videos, thanks for making them. Have learned a lot.
No worries and I'm glad you find the videos useful - thanks for watching.
😊 been waiting for another pmf Vid thanks you and keep up the good work 👍
No worries and I'm glad you appreciate the videos.
Fantastic videos, keep up the good work 👏
I'm glad you find the videos useful - thanks for watching.
Thanks for your videos. It helped me a great deal in the past.
I have one of these running a year without missing a beat or a leak.
Have it teamed up with an FX6 on a heavily overstocked 120 gallon Malawian tank.
The flow rate is definitely higher than the FX.
My FX6 is definitely noisier then the 5000.
Don't really have a single complaint.
(my other channel) That is an awesome report - thanks for that. That's why the comment section is so important.
Thanks Richard for pimping me filter! Very informative as usual will give you my comments after running it for a while 👍
Also I forgot to say thank you
No worries, man and it would be great to hear your thoughts on the function of the filter and also the water conditions in the tank as the months progress.
Thank you for the content sir. Enjoying my (previously Fluval FX6) Biohome Ultimate Marine in eggcrate after my refugium in my sump along with real liverock. I keep coming back for your honest reviews and I don't mind your politics/worldview either. 😉 Thanks again from the mid-west US.
I try to keep politics and my world view out of videos but it's got to the point where I often let a few things slip.
Anyone with eyes and ears can see what's going on so there's no harm in letting a few things through (with the risk of being deleted by Google, lol)
Thanks for watching and appreciating the videos.
I just like seeing how different filters work and which ones to avoid
I'm the same and whenever I get fed up editing yet another filter video I remind myself it's all about knowledge - the more information I have the better I can advise people asking about different filters.
Since purchasing this filter and sending it to Richard for his opinion! This canister filter is a major disappointment screws missing as mentioned also the plastic security clip on the band broke! No big deal but cheaply made. After setting up on my aquarium both inlet and outlet valves started dripping water also a small leak from from a very dodgy drain valve. Can’t seem to get rid of trapped air which makes the filter very noisy No FX6 killer it isn’t!! I was willing to give this this a try despite disappointing reviews but we live and learn just don’t want anybody making the same mistake as I did. I currently have been in contact with supplier who have been very helpful and I am returning the filter and purchasing 2 HW 3000 instead Richard reviews on this filter are positive also other you tube videos
To have so many start up problems on a new filter is beyond belief, wish me luck with the HW 3000s😅
That is a major bummer and I appreciate your honest report on the filter having ran it. Best of luck with the HW3000 - it does indeed get better reviews.
It is great that the supplier was understanding and willing to refund / exchange the HW5000 for the HW3000 filter(s).
Feel free to mention the supplier - I think it was Finest Filters? but I could be wrong. Most suppliers don't care about their customers but they seem to be a good company and I've bought stuff from them myself over the years.
@@pondguru yes it was finest filters couldn’t fault their customer service tbh 5*
sorry to see you had problems with the HW 5OOO ,glad you got sorted from the supplier whom I know from experience are very good and quick at helping customers .but think I will go for FX6.Good luck with the HW 3000 let us know how you go , and double up on filter set up is a great option to have on an aquarium ,All the best.
@@mediscusnut7994 thanks. I’ll let you know I’ve had FX6 in the past as I’m getting older I find them very hard work to maintain tbh
I’ve been using the Shark Pro 700 for a couple of years. I did remove the media bag from the container and added Ehiem media. The magnet holding the filter to the glass is up to the job the one holding the filtering boxes to the head are strong enough to keep them in place without making it impossible to take off. All in all it does what it’s supposed to do very well and it does it silently.
Thanks for the report although I think the video which was playing (shark filter) may have run into the next autoplay video (this one).
Yes your videos do have some sameness as you called it. Some of us fish keepers (myself included) like to watch to see what different filters are out there. I get into filtration! Yes I’m a dork. lol. I have always been a stickler for following directions. I would set my filters up based on the manufacturer. Now I see how wrong they all are. Not sure why they don’t know that by now. it’s pretty obvious if you follow the right order with the media the filters will work better. Keep the videos coming!
I'm glad you find the videos useful - thanks for watching.
I put them out to help.
Hey Richard, good vid as usual and not too bad filter only the basket design is not as good and the stacking so it is hard to put it back when it's full of media. I had a many years ago a similar filter when I had those over 200 gal big tanks. I did a DIY filter. Here in Canada, we have 5 gal pales for paints and if you not cutting it just the top of the opening with a cap then that is all you need. My friend broke his Eheim that had the built-in UV filter so I took that and with 2 suction cups that were on the bottom. in the dollar store, I bought 3 common plastic strainers (pasta etc) An old SEARS vacuum cleaner plastic tube was for the inside. The motor was on the top just a high-powered common water pump with 1in diameter and a couple of stainless steel clips and it was ready to go. The suction I used as a backup so the lid stayed on tight. The motor cost around 24CDN back then with tax and that was to most that cost on this bucket filter I called it. I only had to cut where the 2 plastic tubes went through. It was simple and worked out well cause close to a grand it cost a big canister filter with UV and it was only half the size that I needed. This was on my 220gal tank. Back then I used crushed lave rocks about 1in diameter balls. Good job Richard again as the filterpimp master!
Good one - in reality that's all you need since a canister filter is just a fancy bucket, lol
So, based on watching several of your videos, i have splashed out (pardon the pun) on two of these, one each for my 200l fancy goldfish tanks.
The main deciders were, media space and flow rate adjustment. I also think it will be much easier to maintain. Im just watching again to double-check how to add the media 😂
I was actually using an APS100EF with sponges and biohome, inline with a Fluval 406 full of biohome. This should give me a better flow and be more efficient. Hopefully, get some extra media in, too! Thank you for the information and guides.
Oh, and I found your video on water conditioners, and it was a lightbulb moment. I've switched from Seachem Safe to API Stresscoat. We'll see how that goes...
That sounds all good to me and I hope that the new filters work well for you. The feedback on this filter seems to be all over the place but generally favorable.
It is a good move switching away from 'safe' if you're trying to achieve a full cycle.
'Safe and effective' generally isn't.
Pond update my man!!!
When I get all the vegetation cut back from around it I will probably do an update but it's been quite neglected this year since we've been having an extension built and I've had a nation of other projects to concentrate on too.
Here in Australia you can pick one of these up for just under $300, compared to the FX6's $700
That's quite the difference - thanks for the confirmation.
Have you brought one mate as im looking into one for my 4ft by 2ft tank that houses African cicilds
@brycerobinson2492 i haven't, but a guy i know has 2 of the 3000 on a 6foot tank, and the tank looks amazing!
Can't wait for the aquel hypermax 4500 :D
I've shot that and will get it edited and uploaded over the next few days. It looks like an excellent filter and it easily holds 10kg of media - proper beast.
@@pondguruthere would be a question, eheim 1500 classic or aquel 4500. When I watched that video where you packed the eheim classic 1500, you were happy and smiling :) as if that filter delights you, would you also give preference to the aquel 4500
@@robi017. The Aquael 4500 is way better as far as I can see but I haven't run the filter. It's always best to get reports from people who have used any filter long term so hopefully when I upload the 4500 video there will be a few people who have used it and take the time to comment on the video.
@@ThousandYardStare Thank you legend.
I know this filter had its issues but its a beast. I want one but cant find one anywhere
In the UK they are available from Finest Filters - they may be the only stockists.
My that’s is a beast 😊of a filter. I keep meaning to drop you an email as I’ve got some issues with my filter
Yes, it is a proper beast and the addition of a UV would really help if it was filtering multiple tanks in a system.
What makes these videos vary, is wether you have a plaster on your thumb or not. I'd say about 70% of the time you do 😃
Ages ago I hit my left thumb with a hammer and got a blood blister where the cuticle grows from the meat so I pulled that part of the nail off and it is yet to grow back properly.
I put tape over it when I'm out in the garden to prevent muck getting into the knackered part of my nail but sometimes forget to take off the tape when I start making the video.
*whether.
Can you run a timer on a canister filter like Sunsun?
I'm not sure about that since it has the digital flow reducer in line. However, some of the Oase pond pumps also can have flow reduced and they can be used on timers. Running a pump on a timer isn't a problem but a filter should really run 24/7 to keep the conditions consistent inside it (and keep it effective).
Just buy a fx6 or one of the big eheim classics. I bought this filter 4 years ago and it never worked. Sucks air like a vacuum cleaner, the valves leaked after a few hours. Took 6 weeks to get a replacement valve. Filter still never worked. After days of back and forth, they refused to honor the warranty. So, I bought a fx6 on Black Friday. All my fx cans have worked day one right out of the box.
Thanks for the feedback on this filter - it's so important for people who have used any of the filters in this series share experiences in the comment section.
Have you done a vid on Aqua One brand please?
(my other channel) I've done a few on the All Pond Solutions / SunSun filters - just search for 'All Pond Solutions Pimp My Filter' and they will come up.
Richard did a couple for Aqua One... The Ocellaris, and the Aquis if I remember right...
Give them a search here on YT for Pimp My Filter, and they should be somewhere in the long list of these vids...
I tried a few internal filters and Fluval u4 is better made.
The U4 is entirely different from the filter shown in this video and has nowhere near the filtering capacity of the HW-500.
@@pondgurusorry, that comment was another video
Thats just a plain copy of the fx line. I do like the closing ring better !
Pretty much yes and yes on that one.
I prefer my Ehiem classic. Holds 20 plus pounds of media and you just can’t have to much media.
Definitely - too much is never enough, lol
I have a hw-3000 and the claims of 3000l a hour its a little lie😂 I imagine its the same here.
The actual flow will always be nearer 50%-60% of the promised flow when everything is connected up to the tank and the filter is full of foams and media but even taking that into account the actual flow of some filters is less than expected. Without a flow meter fitted we've got no way of accurately telling how much is actually flowing back to the tank.
@@pondguru Oh come on. There are 3600 seconds in an hour. 3600 sec. divide by the time that a canister filter will fill one liter of water
@@miroslavivanov7220 |There is a huge difference between a flow when the filter is empty and not lifting the water back up to the tank (zero head) as opposed to when it is filled with foams, media and lifting water back up to the tank.
Filling a bucket and timing it will give you a decent estimate but ideally the bucket would be large - the larger the better for a more accurate estimate (at the lift it would normally pump to) but ideally a flow meter connected to the outlet and run for an hour or so will give an exact measurement.
Hope that makes sense.
If that's the SunSun HW-5000 it's Junk.... They have Discontinued that Filter because of the Pump failure and leeks.... Just bad quality control
I'm not sure they have discontinued it as it's for sale in most Amazon territories.
Definitely not discontinued that's for sure.
@@robertmorrison4458it is in the states. Not on Amazon. Ming Trading, the US distributor for SunSun, doesn’t have it on their website. You can’t even order parts. Edward is right, this filter is junk. Mine never worked. Leaked after a few hours. Sucks in air like a vacuum cleaner. Ming Trading refused to honor the warranty. It’s just sitting in a box in my garage.