Eheim, Oase and Fluval - My thoughts on the 'Big 3'.
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- Опубліковано 10 лис 2021
- Eheim Pro 4+ 600 video: • Pimp My Filter #22 - E...
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Nothing and nobody (including myself) is perfect but for Eheim, Fluval and Oase canister filters they have to be damn close since they are the best known and most highly respected.
This video is my thoughts on those companies and as mentioned in his video I really hope Eheim can pull back some of their reputation and I hope it's not too late.
The Eheim Pro 4 and Pro 5 filters I have been less than impressed with could have been explained and forgiven for some less-than-perfect construction issues if the filters were priced to compete with low to mid price range competitors but the are by far the most expensive - if they make another range of filters how many people will have already switched to their competitors?
As Eheim make much better filter media than both Fluval and Oase it's unbelievable that they do not supply the Substrat Pro with their premium range filters - it is a genuinely good media so why not include it with the filters? That seems like a terrible business decision as it opens the door for customers to source media from other (rival) manufacturers and the vast majority of people will stick with the factory set up for their filters and go back to the manufacturer for replacement foams and media if they come ready set up at the time of purchase.
Unlike many other channels I don't do sponsorship / paid adverts / payment for reviews so what I say when I take a filter apart for the first time is how it is - not what any company wants me to say.
I've seen it said in many comments on other people's videos that because I don't use my channel as a source of income that I must have a problem with channel owners who do but nothing is further from the truth - I run the channel my way without paid sponsorship / paid adverts etc. because I have to stay impartial for my own code but I can appreciate why others would place a cost on each sponsored video they make since it takes time to shoot and edit a video and not many people would want to do that for free.
With the way the world is now I can appreciate even more why anyone would use a channel to generate income since the economy of the world is becoming corrupted to strip everyone of wealth - If you have a good channel and can earn from it then ride that rocket as long as you can.
To the people making money from paid ads, sponsorship etc. the way I run my channel may seem strange but it works for me since the energy I give out is returned other ways (which are more important to me than 'money') and I am not beholding to any company or individual.
If you've enjoyed this video please check out the playlists on my channel for hundreds more - on a variety of subjects.
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See you next time.
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Eheim Pro 4+ 600 video: ua-cam.com/video/b-sPyqBOTcA/v-deo.html
Eheim Pro 5e 600T video: ua-cam.com/video/ofGVnSf5MNk/v-deo.html
Oase Biomaster 850 video: ua-cam.com/video/ujIQ9Kb1fPo/v-deo.html
Biohome filter media: www.filterpro.co.uk
Family water filter: filterpro.co.uk/water-filters-12-c.asp
Nothing and nobody (including myself) is perfect but for Eheim, Fluval and Oase canister filters they have to be damn close since they are the best known and most highly respected.
This video is my thoughts on those companies and as mentioned in his video I really hope Eheim can pull back some of their reputation and I hope it's not too late.
The Eheim Pro 4 and Pro 5 filters I have been less than impressed with could have been explained and forgiven for some less-than-perfect construction issues if the filters were priced to compete with low to mid price range competitors but the are by far the most expensive - if they make another range of filters how many people will have already switched to their competitors?
As Eheim make much better filter media than both Fluval and Oase it's unbelievable that they do not supply the Substrat Pro with their premium range filters - it is a genuinely good media so why not include it with the filters? That seems like a terrible business decision as it opens the door for customers to source media from other (rival) manufacturers and the vast majority of people will stick with the factory set up for their filters and go back to the manufacturer for replacement foams and media if they come ready set up at the time of purchase.
Unlike many other channels I don't do sponsorship / paid adverts / payment for reviews so what I say when I take a filter apart for the first time is how it is - not what any company wants me to say.
I've seen it said in many comments on other people's videos that because I don't use my channel as a source of income that I must have a problem with channel owners who do but nothing is further from the truth - I run the channel my way without paid sponsorship / paid adverts etc. because I have to stay impartial for my own code but I can appreciate why others would place a cost on each sponsored video they make since it takes time to shoot and edit a video and not many people would want to do that for free.
With the way the world is now I can appreciate even more why anyone would use a channel to generate income since the economy of the world is becoming corrupted to strip everyone of wealth - If you have a good channel and can earn from it then ride that rocket as long as you can.
To the people making money from paid ads, sponsorship etc. the way I run my channel may seem strange but it works for me since the energy I give out is returned other ways (which are more important to me than 'money') and I am not beholding to any company or individual.
If you've enjoyed this video please check out the playlists on my channel for hundreds more - on a variety of subjects.
Feel free to share or link any of my videos on facebook, twitter, forums etc. for the benefit of anyone you think may also enjoy watching.
See you next time.
Pondguru
hi mate great channel seen a lot of canister upgrades can you do the fluval evo tank filter upgrade as their seems to be a lot of ways to upgrade the filter but I know you know how to do the best
Can u do one on the little fluval u1 it’s great filter tiny but 65 gph
Hi there guru, I remember in a past video you said if we needed to talk about anything to call. I need to fix my canister and I can't for love nor knew work out what's broken. I replaced the impeller I have replummed all my pipework. Still that fucking noise. It sounds like the impeller is rattling but it can't be that.
The noise can be temporarily stopped by turning my filter off and back on but only temp and doesn't always work. Sounds like the noise might be coming from the motor housing maybe...
@@simonsepic Could be trapped air. Are you giving it time to pull the air out of itself? Also sometimes there can be a leak that will only pull air in and not leak water out. This causes a constant stream of bubbles through the impeller, which is noisy. My old Fluval does this if you are not careful with the o-ring seal. Lubricating the rubber seals can help with that.
Personally, I find the Aquael Products are some of best offered.
I think you're an influencer, and an authentic one at that. Thank you for your insights mate! :)
Couldn’t agree more 👍. I’ve never known Richard to be anything but honest in his reviews or opinions. Would love to see a “pond guru” branded filter series, but understand the costs could be prohibitive.
Keep up the great work Richard 👍
Look who’s talking 😂
When a legend like George Farmer throws compliments your way, you know you’re doing it right. Completely agree, his honesty is what makes his opinion valuable
Sorry, man - I've just seen this comment now as I've had sketchy notifications from UA-cam for years and I miss most comments unfortunately.
I hope you're keeping well and all the best for 2024 and beyond.
This is the first of your videos I’ve watched, came up whilst trying to find difference between biomaster and filtosmart. After your video I’ve gone a bought a biomaster.
Your ability to not hold a grudge and let truth prevail is.. outstanding! Thank you for the help, one very clean turtle tank coming up!
Namesake-Your videos are some of the few I can go back to and rewatch without feeling like I'm laboring. As always, well done!
You are definitely an influencer , having bought my first bio home from you a few years ago after binge watching your videos.Excellent product using for a few years now. Cheers from South Africa.
I have watched video about your Oase canister filter, and went and bought one for my RES. I'm very satisfied with this filter. Keep up the good work. Cheers.
I learn so much from the videos you post, although I have had only one of the three, I am starting to look at the Hydor 600, I love the look and I have not heard of any negative, thank you for what you do, much love and respect.
Like very often: Your text below your video mostly is almost more interesting as the clip itself :-) Nevertheless, I love all of your aquarium related videos for your straight way to to tell and show the truth. Also in my FB groups, when it comes to filters, I always and immediatly refer to your channel and the particular pimps. I'm convinced by myself and learned to know you as a very helpful, friendly and integer person. Keep up working this way and looking forward to many more of your great videos! Cheers, Dieter
I’m staggered that some people have been so negative and that you have needed to mention that. Your reviews and channel is one of my go-to’s, as I know I can always trust what you say. Anyone who recommends a product that is cheaper and gives them a lesser margin at retail, than a more expensive product, has to be being honest. I particularly like your methodology on how to set up a filter. It makes great sense to me and the results speak for themselves. I have had various filters over the years and I do admit that I did like my older version Eheim thermofilters. I have not been active in the hobby for a few years as I needed to take time out to care for my mother who was terminally ill and has sadly now passed, but I’m hoping to set up a tank again very soon and I’m definitely considering trying the Oase brand filters, with the media set up how Richard suggests.
Richard, keep up the great work, you are definitely an influencer. But you are one step beyond that because you are an influencer with integrity. People can see that when I have seen a few of your videos and it makes all the difference.
Thank you for making your videos. I have two filters pimped, and have never had any problems. When it comes to everything else, block out the haters and do your thing. Several kindred spirits are out there. Always be ready
Very informative video, I'm currently considering these brands for my first canister filter so very well-timed.
Have previously ordered media from Richard and he's always been very helpful.
Been running an Eheim 2217 (now called classic 600 I think) continuously since the late 90's and it is still going strong, a truly fantastic filter. Bought a pro3 to upgrade to when they came out, not a patch on the original 2217, and other than for occasional emergency use the pro 3 has sat in the shed for the last 8 years. Never tried any other filter as the 2217 is perfect.
Same story here. Eheim 2233, running since 1999. Never change anything, never stops, never leaking.
@@nickgreek4 german quality i guess xd
Eheim definitely took a lot of work to manufacture really long lasting filter.
My Fluval 406 stop working after 2 years.
That’s why after that every system I always chose Eheim first
I've always look for your videos and I forward your video on the right order to set up the different foams. Thanks Richard and stay safe 🙏 👍
You served the community more then ever by upgrading and your vision about them 🏆
For having dealt directly with Richard, I can truely say that if he was someone that is in only for the money, I never would have gotten my Biohome simply due to the shipper giving him so much trouble to ship it where I live.
Yet he spent time and energy to make sure I get it.
He is definitely a passionate and like he said, when he give his opinion it comes from his guts and not from his wallet.
Keep up the good work, you are the reference in what you do!
Yours was the last box I shipped outside the UK - it's even worse now with the nonsense going on but the curious thing is that if I send a small packet outside the UK as a normal (non-business) customer at a post office it gets there with no messing.
The efforts to prevent trade between countries is clearly being targeted against business.
@@pondguruIndeed, it's truely a pay back to the UK business owner for claiming back your independence from Europe.
Let's hope this get settle soon.
@@olivierpelland1027 Unfortunately it's way bigger than that - it's definitely a global problem and it only ends when people learn to say no to all the nonsense, lol
I too have dealt with Richard. Now running Biohome Ultimate with brilliant results. The man is a legend.
I always appreciate the depth of your reviews and your independent opinions. I couldn’t agree more on any of your points. There was a time that Eheim was all I would buy, but the quality has dropped off the cliff. Keep it up and thanks for the honest reviews!
I love your integrity, honesty and your generosity in sharing your knowledge.
You really ought to consider making a pitch to Dragon's Den to see if that could unlock the potential that I'm sure exists in the product ideas that you have.
You were the first person i started watching on filtration 5 years ago and still continue to listen to.
Top man with a honest mind and tact can't ever knock a man for that just ain't right when Big companies get in their feelings cause you thought outside of their box for people to get their ultimate monies out of the filters. Keep up the great work and vibes mate 💙
Thank you for being so generous thoughtful and so true.
The world needs more people like you! 👍👏
Don’t change brother! I genuinely respect your opinion and always listen to what you have to say before buying filters.
Too right. I wish other channels (with way more subs) were half as knowledgeable. I saw one channel which hasn't even mentioned the word fish for at least four videos. All while reviewing other peoples tanks lol. Some people are full of it. Pondguru aint one.
Awesome video as always mate thanks so much for all your hard work
Just like to say thank you for going through the stress to give such great knowledge to us all 👍
Thank you for your advice. I wanted eheim 4 at first, then the sales guy at my local shop wanted me to buy a fluval right off and then I researched and considered oase. After your reviews and insight I chose Oase Biomaster 350 and am looking forward to set it up.
As far as I'm concerned that's the best choice so you did well there.
I'm glad you found the video useful and best of luck with the tank.
We watched your pre filter booster canister video and bought one for our indoor tank, it's brilliant and thanks for recommending 👍👍
Great video, sir. Let me edit my comment on your last video... "Richard, why don't you just make me my own personal custom filter and pimp it out for me and ship it to me in the US!" HA!. Keep up the good work, sir. My faith in humanity is restored by your integrity. Also...
I too 'have a fondness for' 'significant' 'hindquarters' and 'am personally' 'incapable of' 'terminological inexactitudes'.
Richard you are an honest influencer. I'm a Eheim Ecco Pro 300 convert following issues I had with fluval. So much so that I'm now running 2. One solely as a mechanical, the other biological and it's working well.
Such a great video!!!
And all truthful🙏🏻
I personally only use Fluval filters in my Aquariums. Reason why? Simple! They just work! I have FX6’s 407’s, 307’s on various tanks and they do a great job. Especially the 07 line! Great Flow, ease of use, very reliable, and don’t break the bank. I’m doing a 120 gallon discus tank right now and originally I was thinking of doing an Eheim, or Oase Biomaster, and all my friends in the aquarium hobby have simply said do yourself a favor and keep using what’s worked all these years. So I went with 2 Fluval 407’s and couldn’t be happier. Good flow that I can control, plenty of media space, and extremely quite….what more can i ask for 🤷🏻♂️
Keep the videos coming….and yes you are an influencer🙌🏼
I love your videos!! You are so real, and I have learned so much from you! Thanks a million!
Great video, I have a ehiem 3pro xxl and a bio master 850 that review of the ehiem 5e was spot on I was hoping for some good things but it seems it’s not as good as the 3e. Love the information in your videos and the honest reviews 👍
Would you recommend the 2080 or maybe the 2260?
I just received your bio home marine it’s the best media I try I been keeping fresh and saltwater fish for about 22 years but bio home is the best media for my aquariums how I know I have it now on my tanks. Great product PondGurru! Keep up the great work. From Texas USA. God blessed.
Always straight to the point and love your honesty! I’m registered disabled so filter maintainence is an issue and Richard’s advice on the 850 Biomaster was a game changer for me
(my other channel) I'm glad that the filter is working well for you as Oase have really raised the bar with the Biomaster filters.
Some people can’t handle the truth. I can’t speak for everyone but at least I know I can trust you and your opinion. You saved me from making a huge mistake with you Eheim Pro video. I was just getting ready to buy one. Thank You for that. You should seriously get hooked up with a manufacturer and design and build the perfect filter. We all know you could do it.
Great video as usual!
As you say those filters are the best on the market. Concerning Eheim pro 5, they look good good but the price!!! I am as surprised as you that Eheim don't put much effort the lead the market of canister filters..
I use Eheim and Oase filters but I am not entirely satisfied. So I decided to design and build my own filter. I am looking forward for yours sketches and compare designs.
CHeers
Love the vids, keep up the good work 👍
I like your honesty, So true with these big boys, I love your product, all my tank are running eheim canister with your biohomes and the tank runs lovely. The best filter media I have owned. and for 40 years running tanks I have had a lot of media. I even recently bought your bio orb upgrate kit and the water is crystal clear. I recommend your stuff to all my friends who have a tank.
That is great to hear and I'm glad that all the tanks are running well - filtration is 95% of fish keeping, simple to make efficient yet there is so much misinformation online regarding filtration, filter media etc. from paid 'influencers' and 'ambassadors'.
I've said since the start of my business that if something which is better suited to bacteria to colonize comes along I will stock that as I only ever want to deal with the best products. The fact that I still don't stock any other type of static media tells its own story, lol.
Thanks for recommending Biohome - that means a lot since I have always had an advertising budget of £0 and concentrated on trying to inform people how filtration works and how to make it as efficient as possible for an entirely natural full cycle.
However, even after well over a decade it's still an uphill battle but nowhere near as hard as trying to wean people off using a specific conditioner which messes with the ammonia, nitrite and nitrate. The key to a full cycle is having enough suitable media and not messing with the food bacteria needs.
Really honest statements I had Fluval was ok but needed more power so I thought I would try Ehiem Pro 4 have had some of the problems you mentioned in the past with the trays I don’t have the money yet but I will try Oase one day. Your videos are very good where else would you see so many different filters in place all taken apart and examined with a honest opinion. I got my Ehiem just before I saw your review on it, to late for me but I would tell anyone looking for a filter to check out your videos first.
I had a Eheim Pro4 swapped it for a Sicce Whale 500. Just a simple cheap filter, very well constructed and does the job. Best canister I've ever had 😀👍.
Send it to pondguru?! :)
Yes, Sicce are quite and good filters...
Great video Richard
You are absolutely brilliant the way you are and never ever change yourself
Admired you and your channel 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
You made a life of a difference for me and for my fish in the long term❤
tell the story more often. with 140k subs, your a influencer and with enough ppl, you will force them to make the changes. strength in numbers!
Excellent honest video!!
If the major canister filter manufacturers took your design, I wonder how much different their results would be after they have each put their own stamp on them.
Great video as always.
Thanks man! I really appreciate your opinion. By incident I recognize pretty much the same down points for Eheim canisters. The 4 series is way louder than the third. Absolute no go. What I miss in this range is jbl canister filters. They are comparable to Eheim and Oase but are less pricy.
Forgot: eheim was west german and JBL the East German company. About 60 years old.
The Truth is always the best thing. The concepts you present are spot on. The success I have with both fresh and saltwater are due in large part to your filtration methodology
Quite possibly the best of all of his videos
I think your honest opinion is exactly what makes you a proper influencer!
Good job. Best realistic reviews.
Fun video and very informative, plus I agree on these three companies.
Thanks a lot for your usual efforts and for informatif vedios.
Awesome vid mate !
I have to tell you that making a review without real profit is my way to take this awesome hobby few steps forward in israel 😅
Btw - I know what you are going through..
Due to the fact of facing those kind of fitback... Unfortunately, I've stopped recommending things...
Every time someone asks "do you recommend?"
My answer is "no! I am just sharing my experience about x,y,z... From there it's your decision to take it or leave it 😏"
What I am trying to say?...
KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK MATE YOU ARE AWESOME!
- thanks to your reviews I've learned a lot and shared your experience with my tests (on few things) with hobby mates in our country 🤘
FYI - YOU HAVE MASSIVE SUPPORT FROM ISRAEL
cheers mate 🍻
Great video, in my experience all the new eheim have problems but the classic still good but overpriced so don’t touch them now just got one huge tank presently with 3 fx6 which I love however they are a real pain tio maintain albeit this is only a handful of times a year would love the output and small height of the fx6 with the ease of the oase of changing the pre filter sponges thanks again for these videos
I have been seriously in the hobby since 2006 but only got to know how to properly filter by yr vdos .... keep it up ...
Love your video pal I've learnt so much from you
No worries and I'm glad you found it useful as I make the videos to help people.
You're absulutely right about how some of this businesses are just now relying on name/marketing/maximum profitability and gave up on just making good quality and effective products. I've had the opportunity to have all 3 of the brands you've mentioned and by far I really like the Fluval for reliablity, price point and effectiveness. Oase do make a beast of a canister filter as far a build quality and innovative design, it is not perfect but really good. I like Eheim but for the price and so-so later design, it's seems like it's more of a gimmicky and are heavily relying on past reputation, but like their heaters-the older design (round ones-ehem!) are just more reliable, simple but functional and effective (adding trays on the 2217 would have been nice like the classic 2215). For me, Fluval is the product I'm personally happy with as a hobbyist, great design, reliable/functional, build quality/material is not much behind Oase's, but the price more than makes up for it. Good luck getting an intellectual property rights/patent respected in the country you mentioned as it does not exist. It's a shame really and not right in any way you look at it, but it is what it is and no one dares even mentioning without serious unjustified retaliation.
Your channel is so good man 👍👍
Another boss video Richard lad, stick to ye guns and keep telling it like it is. I got some excellent tips from you in the past. Keep goin 👍
👍Thank you for standing your ground.
@Richard, I've been away from the hobby for 10 years after a 120 gallon tank failed and completely flooded my basement. I swore I would never have an aquarium again back then. The youtube gods put one of your videos in my feed and got me very excited about starting up again. Just wanted to thank you for your great advice and honesty. Keep up the great work 👍 and hello from Canada!
Go acrylic if you're still traumatized. @fishman on youtube does alot of diy acrylic builds
You're a pretty good influencer🤫 I bought Biohome Ultimate from you as a result of watching your channel 😁
Very impressed with OASE new HOB filter. I know you don't do HOB's but they're high quality and you can get the baskets so you can "pimp" them. Cheers.
I really appreciate your honesty. Being I can't lift a full canister filter, ok I am very old. I use 2 -295 gph power heads, going to 2- 4 liter box on top of my aquarium,I added 3 to 4 spouts in each box for my 50g goldfish tank with 3 fish. Made a PVC spray bar in one. Use a hose connector on the inside of the box top so the hose can't pull out. Talk about cheap. So so easy to remove soiled floss. So so inexpensive.Canister filters are too heavy and cost too much. You can do better-
I enjoyed your honesty in this video, and I totally agree R&D and patents are very expensive even for an established company
(my other channel) the whole patent scheme is a racket and when you learn that Tesla was a genuine inventor and Edison was a guy who worked in a patent office things become very clear.
It's no surprise we learn nothing of Tesla during the 12 years of government indoctrination camps ('school') but Edison is held up as a hero.
I've been using an Oase 600 on my 125gallon, it's been great except the heater takes too long to reach the 79 degrees that I want. The flow is low for a 125, but I plan to bore out the holes in the prefilter tube and get coarser filters for it (it came with fine sponges). I'm changing to an oase 850 soon and moving the 600 to a 60gallon tallboy tank. I like the integrated heater inside the canister, but it does take a slight bit longer to stabilize after water changes than a normal 'in tank' heater.
Very very nice conversation !!! Xavier from France
Amazing Fluval 207 Panda cory nursery......really chuffed with this filter, keeps my Jewel 125 Crystal clear with biohome ultimate. Just did my monthly filter mainenance, lifted the head off the unit and found a baby panda cory swimming in the sponge compartment. Amazed, carried on cleaning and found 2 more babies, now a pro dad to 9 Panda corys.
Put a sponge on the intake tube to avoid fry being sucked into the filter. Corse or medium will work, depends on how much maintenance you are will to do, but its not much.
I understand the costs of creating your own filter line would be incredible. But I for one would definitely buy one. What about some type of kit to convert an already existing watertight container like a 5 gallon bucket with a screw top provide all the components and instructions to make your own I think that suits your style a little bit better anyway just an idea. Food for thought maybe anyway good luck mate and keep up the good work👍
Good Morning from Hong Kong. Thanks for the review and appreciate the way of coming from heart rather coming from money. Just a quick question, I am going to set up a 120*50*50 planted tank. Will Oase 600 + Fluval 307 provide enough flow and bio material space for this tank? (According to material placement suggestion in your related video) TQTQ!
You should work with one of the major brands eg. Seachem on developing your filter (since they don't have a canister filter). You could co-share the patent or even give them the patent if you're not comfortable with coming up with the large upfront cost and work out a deal to get a small cut of the profits and let them manufacture it under their brand name. Take your time and see how you can work something out instead of giving out your designs for free. Make sure you straighten out the legal part of things in case they blindside you and cut you out of the deal.
I still think Eheim made a best product, the classic series are really simple and sturdy design filter. I know a lot of people prefer the tray system now day, but I find it more easy to clean with Eheim classic design.
I bought the Eheim Classic 2217 in 2007, still running, 24/7, never stops, never leaks.
Thank god a decent human who put product before money
You did build a fantastic filtration system that you had under your house the shower filter that you have setting on your desk the bio media that you can put into anything and get a full nitrogen cycle and all the DIY
I don't know how anyone can have a problem with this guy he is ace and really really genuine
Never tried Eheim. Oase BioMaster (leaks and bubbles) has issues that made me return to Amazon and buy a Fluval 307. I so wanted the Oase to work out. The in canister heater and the pre-filter was so promising.
Great video! Wondering if it is possible to just build your own filter out of acrylic and choose your own media. Is that a realistic possibility or not worth the hassle?
It's possible. Tke king of diy has a tutorial on it or even other youtubers have it . If it's useful or not, i don't know tho
Great video. Love how the monologue went from a reflection on aquarium filter design, to "I like big butts and I cannot lie" 🤣
The Oase bio 850 has a similar exterior construction as the Eheim in the last vid and does not maximise possible space , but agree they are better than Fluval and Eheim , my fluval filters need gaskets changed more regular and Ehiem are to expensive for the materials used , great informative update, maybe offer your design to the brand leaders for a % of any profit 8fthey choose to use them before showing us for free
Hello, I love your informational videos. Keep up the great work. I do have a question and would like to get your thoughts. Is there any brand of canister filter, who states accurate and "actual" GPH specifications of their filters?
The reason I ask this, is because I have experienced an issue with Fluval and in my research to find a resolution, it appears that all manufactures of canister filters are doing the same thing. That is over-rating or over-spec the performance of their canister filters.
I have had a eastern painted turtle in a 75 gallon aquarium, (with only 40 gallons of water) for 20 years. My very first canister was the Marineland Magnum 350. I eventually replaced it with a Rena XL which I had for 15 years, until the motor housing got a large crack, and began to leak. So, I replaced the Rena with a Fluval 407. As soon I began using the Fluval 407, my water soon became cloudy. It appeared like Biological bloom. Yes, I used all of the bio media from the Rena in the new Fluval. I also added bio additive to the water and still the water has become cloudy and will not clear. Over the past FIVE (5) MONTHS I have tried everything to resolve this issue and have talked to several aquarium professionals. During my research to find a resolution for this problem, I found articles and videos on flow (GPH) test on various canister filters, which has shown that many canister filter manufactures severely over-spec their canister filters performance. So I decided to check the Fluval 407 that I had purchased, to see the actual GPH that I'm getting with this filter on my aquarium.
First I installed new mechanical foam filters, rinsed the bio media and cleaned the hoses. Then after purging all the air from the filter, I removed the diverter from the outlet hose in the tank and performed a flow test three (3) times. Then I removed all of the foam sponges, bio media and re-installed the motor head to perform the same flow test with NO filters, media or baskets. Just an empty canister and the pump head and performed the same flow test three (3) times. Here are my test results:
Flow test with media - 134.64 GPH.
Flow test WITHOUT media - 152.58 GPH.
According the manufactures specifications, the pump output has a max of 383GPH. The max output of the canister filter WITH MEDIA is 245GPH.
I understand there are many factors that will effect flow, like hose routing, pump distance to the water and distance from the top of the water to the rim of the tank. My set up matches Fluval's recommended set-up and configuration and yet I still had very low numbers. So my final test was to raise the canister filter closer to the top of the water in the tank, creating less resistance against the filter pump motor. My final test indicated only a 10 GPH improvement over the first test
I have been in contact with Fluval and they insist there is nothing wrong with the filter and that it is working correctly. There only suggestion is to install a UVC Clarifier in line with the pump. And Yes, I have checked the water condition. All the levels are excellent, nitrate, nitrite, ammonia, etc...
In the twenty years I have owned this aquarium with this one 6" eastern painted turtle, I have never had a cloudy water issue, until I installed the Fluval 407. I have looked at other brands or models of canister filters to install in place of the 407, but many have a lot of bad reviews with leaks and failures, are too small or too large or are difficult to find replacement filter for. Your thoughts?
i ended up here as i was looking at buying the oase biomaster, you talked me out of it in the 1st 10 minutes. thank you
lol, what are you looking to buy instead?
@@ThousandYardStare not so sure, im looking for an upgrade to my aqua one Ocellaris
@@greenlaner The Biomaster is a really good filter compared to most of the other options. The Oase Filtosmart filters aren't very good but the Oase Biomaster filters are definitely worthy of consideration.
@@ThousandYardStare thanks for taking the time to help me, I am a firm believer in business ethics (some might say why cut off your nose to spite your face but we are all different) and I really am put off by your story regarding this company. Maybe i will look to ebay for a used example that way I get the filter without giving them my money directly.
@@greenlaner Ha, ha - that is exactly my way of thinking.
The vast majority of things I buy are used / second hand as I don't want to give the companies producing them any of my attention or currency.
Whenever my daughter wants to watch a Disney film I insist on downloading it using a VPN and Pirate Bay so they don't get any sort of gain from my interaction with their product.
It';s often more work that way but it is definitely worth it to maintain our souls.
I remember you were verry impressed with the aquael turbomax series also, they are not such a big name, but I think they can compete?
I haven't had anything past a Eheim pro 3, great filter, heavy bugger when full and I love the classic range and the pickup internal range. Good quality and performance. I dont understand why you need wifi on a filter or a digital display, unless its got a heater in it. Have had Fluval a few times and have one of there aquariums at the moment running a 407. Not as good as Eheim but not bad and spares are easy to get.
They are definitely still the king of the spare parts market but their share of the filter market must have wasted away terribly over the last few years due to the quality and cost of their newer generation of filters compared to the competition.
External modular filters would be the ultimate. Similar to Lifegard Aquatics back in the day, but pragmatic and with ease of maintenance in mind.
The Oase biomaster internal filters are peerless in my opinion. The corner design is fantastic as are the larger ones that incorporate heaters.
When you talk about "making your own" I know the amount of work required, it's costly but there is also running costs.
I am recently needing a breeder box, so I got the fluval breeder box ($20) or so. It's funny. That thing in your hands. You add a siphon or pump and set it like a sump, it's basically the best HoB filter made. (or could be). I'd really like to see your reaction to the video by Ha Y N Fish Keeper on the topic, but specifically your take and how you would set it up. Very, very versatile.
I call bs on the Oase Biomaster’s I purchased a 600 thermo, pimped it according to your video and it barely trickled. I contacted the company and got my money back. For me it’s Fluval or nothing. I even tried using a marine land canister filter and am disappointed with it as well
What do you think about putting a good prefilter on an eheim classic and filling it with super biogravel?
I love the way you are, is same's to me. Thank you.
The upgrade on my biomaster 250 is a world of a difference also did my filter 200 and also much better thank for that all we want the best for our fish afterall and upgrading a mature filter is not healthy for fish so really shame from oase
(my other channel) That's great to hear and best of luck with the tanks.
A filter upgrade is the single most important upgrade to any system.
How good are the biomasters for fish who like to generate a fair bit of muck. My Fluval 306 on 200l tanks needs the prefilters cleaning every 2/3 weeks. Thinking of getting a 407 or Biomaster. The latter seems easier to clean.
Hi, could i ask you in your opinion what is the best external filter for a marine tank 260 litre, the canister i am running is abit slow, its done its job but i want something better, i really liked the look of the fluval fx4, but then i saw the sunsun HW 5000, so i am abit stuck on which to get, what would you get knowing your knowledge of the canister filters?
Thank you so much if you get to answer 😊
Has Oase fixed the 850 problem sucking in air from where ever it comes from? I called them and they couldn't figure it out either even after sending me some parts.
For my size aquarium I'd rather have the aqua one aquis 1250 all day long, brilliant value. Good video richard👍
Yes they are excellent filters. I could talk about filters all day but decided to limit it to the 3 current biggest players at the top end of the pricing.
@@pondguru and your right to do so mate, I would love a biomaster on my 200l tank bet there to expensive for me! Yes you get what you pay for but I would probably need the 800/850,as far as media capacity goes but there ridiculous money, I'm happy with the aquis 1250.
I was given an ehiem full scapers tank, cabinet, lighting, CO2 system and pro5 350 filter and I wasn't impressed.
I've been running a ehiem pro3 2080 1200xl and a biomaster 850 thermo alongside one another for over a year now.
The ehiem is just a workhorse although a bit noisier overall.
The biomaster is great but it does trap air and has a mad tap every now and then.
Pls help, would you recommend 2280 or the 2260 fore a 450l/120gal tank?
I need quiet filter.
@@mariot.5178 The Biomaster is quieter? wow
thank for video !!
Thank you for your advice on the Eheim professional 5e ,I totally agree, it is a waste of money, but can you recommend what is the best canister filter as I have been out of fish keeping for a long time,l am planning to get a 5 foot fish tank
My email is sales@filterpro.co.uk so feel free to send an email with the dimensions of the tank (L x W x H) and what you intend to stock in it. The volume of water and stock level will dictate what filtration is required.
Regards,
Richard
Gutted I was hoping you was going to say you've got a filter in production
I've got Oase Biomaster 600 for 9 days in 160 l tank. It is really good, but a little bit to noisy for me. They add more holes it the tube for the prefilter allready.
Yes, the newer stock does have the bigger pipe with better holes in it so that's good.
It should run silently unless you've got the filter trays filled with foams instead of filter media. The foams trap air and release it over days or weeks after cleaning.
@@pondguru Hi
I've got only 1 tray in the bottom with Oase blue sponge, all the others I filled with Seachem Matrix.
The filter doesn't release the air any more. It just hums, but as I said a little bit too noisy in my opinion.
I think I need to get use to it.
@@user-ve9uh4ek2l A hum is normally caused by the filter vibrating against something so making sure that it is sitting on a polystyrene sheet and the pipes aren't touching the sides of the cabinet may reduce the humming noise.
With pumice ('matrix') in the filter the biological side of the filtration will work better if you're lucky enough to get a decent grade of pumice in the batch (it is very variable in quality but certainly better than normal gravel).
Hello thanks for the good video.
As for Oase or any other canister filter, am I right to say one with internal heater is much more energy efficient Vs a heater placed inside a big tank? So I'm thinking smaller vol to heat up albeit continuously changing Vs a big Vol in a tank.
Great video Richard, you can’t please all the people all the time and unfortunately if said people don’t like what you say they take pride in bitching about it sat behind a keyboard with zero accountability.
Just hope these numpties don’t put you off making great content !!!