Honestly, I don’t feel bad for Hollywood at all. They made these poor decisions. They are the ones who are out of touch with their audience. And they are the ones who can’t seem to learn the proper lesson.
People have been telling them for years. Pointing out the issues with their poor story telling. How attacking the fans is not it. That insulting and attacking the fans is not a smart movie. With them refusing to listen time and time again. Not treating legacy characters with respect. Rather acting like these legacy characters shot their dog. Characters like Rey, who lack personality, are to strong for context of the story, lack consistency in their powers and abilities, making it uninteresting and pointless to invest in any of their fights. For it not won through hard skill but due to being favor by the author. Poor writing in general. Yeah they did this to themselves. By refusing to listen to feed back, when people were more than willing to give them all the feed back they desire. If they had listen to it, maybe they wouldn't be doing so badly now. For hollywood has forgotten. Feed back is the life blood to a creative media.
I agree. Just wait until Tom Cruise dominates the summer box office this year with the new Mission Impossible film. The fact that a $40 million dollar budget film outperformed all these high profile flops on 4th of July was nice too. Even better when you find out The Sound of Freedom was originally picked up by Disney after the 20th Century Fox purchase and Disney tried to bury the film. Ouch...
@@Gruntvc Which does make it all the sweeter to see that film do better than disney. For after years of being insulted for merely wanting good entertainment. It hard to not take delight in disney doing badly. Given they keep trying to put out low quality products and do the same tactics that were already wore out years ago.
"Does Hollywood know you can grow old and be happy and surrounded by loved ones?" A perfect quote to sum up a lot of what's wrong with recent movies. The belittling of established heroes so the new hero, who is always less interesting, is elevated. Folks have caught on to this game and are thankfully rejecting it.
well, to be fair. growing old and remaining happy and surrounded by loved ones is really rare these day it seems. Rare enough that i don't think i've seen any examples, but i haven't spoken to that many people so...
Star Wars starts off each movie with the Star Wars version of "once upon a time." But (and this was a problem even with the EU before KK tossed it all out) they never got their "and they lived happily ever after." People still need stories with a "and they lived happily ever after".
@@liljenborg2517 It's a good way to end something, i think. Sometimes, you just need to let a series end. Toy Story was one of those series. It should've ended at 3, it had a perfect ending at 3.
@@liljenborg2517 IMO, the lack of happiness was a problem with Disney's Star Wars sequels. The EU showed Han, Luke and Leia actually prosper after ROTJ. They got married and had children, a somewhat stable family life. Of course there was conflict, what is storytelling without conflict? Still they experienced different levels of joy while still battling villains and saving lives. It would be nice to see Hollywood give characters that sometime.
Especially animated movies. There is no excuse for wasting so much money casting well known stars to do the voices, when you can just hire any voice actor to do the same thing- for a lot less money. During the disney Renaissance, Disney didn't rely on A list actors to do the voices of the characters. I think the only big name actors used during that time were Robin Williams and James Earl Jones.
It’s been proven by the success of spider verse films those film both cause less than Indiana jones 300 million film and got a Oscar award for the first film and 97% critic rating. The second film blew up already grossing 615 million and 96% critics rating, the third film is so anticipated it’s definitely gonna make records at the box office. These movies not only are incredible they manage to main that quality and for some the sequel even surpass the first.
I ended up seeing Indiana Jones with a friend. It was profoundly sad, as you said. Also, like Hans Solo his son is also dead. I don't know why we have to eliminate even any trace of heroic/ classic characters bloodline from their universe. That's so miserable. I actually like my heroes to mostly end up happy. Not everything has to be a tragedy.
@@mananimal3644 Their son is still dead and they broke up over that because she couldn't handle it and apparently he wasn't supportive. Nothing changed and neither character learned or addressed that. They would be fighting over whatever broke them up before within a day. Also Indy is wanted for "murdering" his two colleagues and is in for a long court battle to set his name right and his reputation would already be tarnished forever. Plus one of his other longtime friends also died. And his untreated bullet hole that was considered fatal was never fixed either, in fact he was punched in the face so hard he blacked out. Which means he has an untreated concussion as well, which has a high chance of causing someone his age to have a stroke. So no, he didn't end up happy, you can shill somewhere else.
@@mananimal3644 So he ended up with an inferior version of happiness he had after Crystal Skulls. In Crystal Skulls he was already with the love of his life and the proof of that was to continue into the future, but that's gone now and he's been depressed for decades. It's just a shittier rip off of Crystal Skulls. I was happy for them at the end of that movie, but this is just regressive and emotionally manipulative.
What you mentioned about Indiana Jones being depressing was exactly how I felt. I always liked the Indy films (yes, even the 4th one!) because they show him standing up against impossible odds, and the fact that he keeps going even when he's afraid or in danger. They're pretty inspiring. So seeing him old and washed-up was just sad, and yes, even cliche. An 80-year-old Indy kicking butt maybe wouldn't be entirely realistic, but seeing him doing his best and not even letting age pull him down would have been inspiring storytelling, not to mention respectful to Ford himself. And Helena was horrible. At first she seemed great - I thought they were going the route of Pixar's 'Up' by having an excited young character drag the older one on adventure and helping them realize their life isn't over and they can still do great things. But nope, her likeable first impression was a lie, and she was an unrepentant jerk for most of the movie. I don't know why the writers thought she would leave a good impression on audiences. If they were going for 'strong female character,' I think they forgot kindness and compassion are key aspects of strength too, for any gender.
The filmmakers want you to think that after she tried getting him killed at least three times during the film she had a miraculous change of heart for no particular reason and showed her compassion by punching an 80-year old man dying of a gunshot wound unconscious. Then with the power of movie magic and a single screen transition she somehow healed all his injuries, brought him home, got the police to stop trying to charge him with murder(s), and fixed his marriage. Didn't revive his son from the dead though, so he's worse off than at the end of the last movie but if you're as stupid as the filmmakers want you to be you'll think it's better or that any of that made sense.
"If they were going for 'strong female character,' I think they forgot kindness and compassion are key aspects of strength too, for any gender." Yes! Yes, yes, yes to all of this! I am so sick and tired of seeing the "mistaken for stoic" character, especially when it's done with the females because it's so obvious to me that they are overcorrecting. "We need to show that this girl is tough, so she's an asshole!" No, that's not how it works. It's the same mentality that turned Superman into a stoic, serious, no-emotions (except rage), bland and clichéd grimdark "hero" of the Snyder-verse. SUPERMAN! The nicest, kindest, "All I want to do is help" guy in the DC Universe. However, I don't think the sole blame lies on the writers. They have far, far, far less power than many people think. They can get feedback from directors and especially producers who have a "done by commite" mentality who will tell them to "Make this character stronger [by making them an asshole]" or similar stuff like that. It's the old "but the chart says" joke that people been doing for well over a decade now if not longer. Poor writing, poor inputs on the writing and poor editing of said writing leds to poor scripts leads to poorly made movies.
What I think happened with Helena's character is that the actress is famous for staring on the series "Fleabag", where her character is a huge jerk, but in a way we sympathize with. I think the writers here were like "oh it's Fleabag lady, what if we write her like she's written in Fleabag?" Which obviously doesn't work for this movie.
Ruby Gillman is weird one. I wanted it to succeed after Puss in Boots 2 earned Dreamworks so much goodwill, saw it, liked fine, observed its shortcomings, and then forgot a lot of it. All this in five days! It's fun enough, but it feels like entire scenes and subplots were cut from it. The prom plot they introduce early on is forgotten almost immediately when the Kraken plot begins. Ruby's friends feel betrayed that she stops spending time with them after meeting Chelsea, but this is shown once in a quick montage and is handwaved away in two lines during the last five minutes, when the prom plot suddenly reemerges. She's a "mathlete" and tutor for her crush, yet Ruby sure never spends time doing math or tutoring on-screen. A sea captain with a vendetta against the kraken makes the town turn against it (unknowingly putting pressure on Ruby) and almost kills Kraken-Ruby, but he doesn't stay as much of an antagonist--he should've been either more villainous or less threatening but funnier. Honestly, the film can be alright if you turn your brain off and laugh at some decent jokes, but I found that criticizing it gave me more to chew on. Better than Indy 5 or Elemental, that's for sure.
I really think Ruby Gillman would've been more entertaining if it was just them being friends. Like, no ulterior motives. Just a straight up cute story about a preppy mermaid and a dorky kraken developing an unlikely friendship and surviving human school.
I just saw Ruby Gillman today and while not on the same level as Puss in Boots I thought it was enjoyable. I agree wholeheartedly that the trailers revealed too much and I think that definitely played a part in the poor box office. And yes it was a bit cliched but I also think there’s potential in the idea. Maybe it’ll do well enough on streaming to convince Dreamworks to experiment with the story.
I have seen both movies. Ruby Gillman was a fairly generic but fun movie. It reminded me a lot of Turning Red, but I enjoyed Ruby Gillman way more. Indiana Jones 5 was just a miserable experience. Aside from the dodgy de-aging, the first 20 minutes were pretty fun, but once it got to old and miserable Indy, the fun stopped and never recovered. Say what you will about Crystal Skull, but at least the original team was still around, and had way more fun with itself. Great video. It’ll be interesting to see what lessons will be learned when the year is over.
Am I the only who thinks movie advertisements are also getting worse? I didn't even know Elementals and Teenage Kraken were out until I saw how they flopped on the news
I think this is a result of all the targeted advertisement that companies like Facebook helped create. Certain people get bombarded with ads for the same movie while others never see it at all. It just doesn't seem to work.
Yeah i never see trailers that just have a thing off " starting July 12th in theaters" like a month ahead of time. Granted i also run add block on pc. So part of it might be because of that.
@@I-Will-Destroy-USocial media and how people act and behave there, also them not touching grass Susan Wojocki, Mark Zuckerberg, and Elon Musk NFTs and Crypto All those dead celebrities who died the last decade (like Robin Williams, and Carrie Fisher) Politics as a whole (left or right), and people never trusting opposing sides ever again, not even in the slightest Mainstream political media twisting things in their favor (left or right), rather than just stating facts People not going outside their comfort zones anymore Gaming online subscriptions Nintendo being a big bitch whose out of touch Disney being a asshole whose also out of touch AAA games not even guaranteed to be bug-free and content filed day 1 anymore (Fallout 76, Cyperpunk 2077, Pokémon Scarlet/Violet, etc) Freemium Pay2Win games (or if priced, “fix it later” games) Microtransactions and paywalls Autotune being the most common songs you hear in the planet (usually Pop and Rap) Memes being short-lived trends within a month or less rather than defining memorable moments
As much as I’d like to believe that Hollywood will learn from there mistakes with all these box office flops. I can’t help but feel doubtful about it. Especially with them getting on this mentality that if a film fails it wasn’t because of their own faults. It was because the audience is just full of haters.
Minions looks like a movie I would take my grandkids to (and we have watched them together). Ruby Gilman looks like something I might take my grandkids to in _eight years_ when they're teenagers. It's not a kids movie - and too many people in America still think of animated movies as things only for little kids. Yes, animated movies from Japan can make some money in the American box office, but even highly successful anime movies, like Demon Slayer and Dragonball only made $30 - $50 million in the US market. The "I'm in my teens and I like animated stuff" audience is still a niche audience. This isn't a new "problem". Disney movies like Treasure Planet and Atlantis or the Don Bluth movie Titan A.E. that were made more for a teen-ish (hey, ain't all those kids watchin' that Japanimation stuff nowadays!) market, also flopped in the movie theaters, even though they're good to great movies - and certainly better than Disney movies like Home on the Range and Brother Bear (and all their direct-to-VHS-sequels) from that time.
The original director for Ruby Gillman was going to be Paul Tibbitt, the man behind some of the best SpongeBob episodes, he probably would have made a much better movie than what we got.
Hollywood is full of hateful people who think they're good because they hate the right kind of people, whereas everyone with an iota of sense knows that's just not how it works. These hateful people can't tell good stories because they can't identify with the characteristics of heroism, rather they create characters who are fundamentally awful people, because the people creating them are fundamentally awful. These characters are author/producer self-inserts because their own twisted perspectives are all that these people are able to understand and when audiences reject it and call out these characters for being awful people the authors/producers take it personally because for them it is personal, they are being personally rejected via their self-insert characters.
I agree that the trailers for Ruby Gillman, Teenage Kraken gave away too much. Before watching Ruby Gillman, I was thinking that after Ruby and Chelsea/Nerissa's fight, they would team up to defeat a common enemy and after that, Ruby and Chelsea/Nerissa become true friends and so do the rest of the krakens and mermaids. What they went with was a little shallow.
Nostalgia tends not to work, when you muck around with what makes them "nostalgic." So if they're banking on that solely, modern day political inserts for no reason was not the way to go about it. You'd think they'd have learned from the Sequel Trilogy's profit trajectory... but no. Only way I even heard about the Ruby Kraken movie was from streaming sites... so that doesn't exactly surprise me. It's also a fairly niche hoped for audience. (What kid is going to know what a kraken even is these days?) But then again, if you wanna break a few eggs, ya gotta get Kraken- I'll show myself out now... * Also, they did send Indy out with a bang... it was just from Bon Jovi, rather than celebratory. : /
I saw Ruby Gillman twice in the theater. And I liked it betterthe second time. I found the lead to be adorable and thought the visuals looked pretty. Yes, the trailers were spoiler-heavy, but I tried not to let it bother me. Hopefully I can support it by buying the Blu-Ray and not JUST through streaming.
You know, one one hand I feel sorry for Elemental and Ruby Gillman. They weren't amazing, but their worse crimes were just being kinda safe, so I kind of enjoyed them. And honestly, it seems like their studios wanted them to fail. Flash and Indiana I don't because 1. the stuff with Ezra Miller and how Warner just didn't say anything about it, and 2. For WHAT POSSIBLE REASON did Disney look at their 300 MILLION DOLLAR MOVIE (keep in mind, that doesn't count marketing) that NO ONE was really looking forward to, and think "yeah, this is a good idea."
They're unfortunate casualties of all the goodwill that has been burned by Hollywood. So many people are just not in the habit of seeing movies anymore and tickets are so much more expensive. People need a very good reason to go see a movie, so simply being non-offensive isn't enough of a draw.
@@chucklebouf5379there’s also an issue with “non offensive”. Offensive to who? Because let me say no one gets more offended then right wing conservatives at the existence of a single gay character with 2 minutes screen time 😂 Literally every Disney movie that includes diverse characters gets complaints from “offended” white men so You gotta clarify who you mean. I’m a queer disabled person, but I don’t care that much if a movie has no queer or even disabled person in it. But it is amazing to see someone like me in media, but then half the population throws hands because *every* character has to be like them.
My simple theory, Hollywood fails and will continue to fail for two simple reasons: 1) Those responsible for these films are extremely incompetent at their work. 2) These idiots make movies to please themselves and not the public, and it seems that many have already realized this.
They think they're helping killing off and makeing the old white male heroes miserable and replacing them with insert diversity check mark here not understanding people of all walks of life loved those heroes and only a narcissist would want to replace them with a self-insert with no real personality. You want a female Indiana Jones go make a new franchise instead of ruining his happy ending from crystal skull but no it was never about that all recent Lucasfilm movies have been about Kathleen Kennedy's ego trying to destroy George Lucas's legacy because she was just an unimportant coffee girl on the orignal three movies but wants to be important and watching the movies made by Lucasfilm since she took over it's very clear it's all about her beging for atention.
I could be wrong but I personally feel like it's just theatres that are dying, I think people have realized that they don't really enjoy the movie-going experience and so they don't. I don't think theatres will just disappear but I think they will become a very less common thing and just devolve into something smaller. And only block busters like spider verse or End game will get any attention when it comes to grossing
I’m honestly suprised that Ruby Gilman didn’t do so well, especially when *that* part of the internet made boat loads (no pun intended) of “fan art” of the characters.
@@theunicornbay4286 literally rule 34 the name and you will be drowning Krakussy and mermaid poon. I would be surprised at the speed at which the “fan art” piled up but, the internet works fast.
In Indiana Jones and the Dial of Disaster, you can tell they had to do reshoots to change the story last minute. This wasn't meant to be a send-off as it was meant to be putting down the character of Indy, and allow Phoebe to Rey --Palpatine-- Skywalker of the series moving forward. What is with Hollywood not letting old characters being happy and going out with one last hurrah? They should have just kept it Indy's son takes over, just hire a new actor, no one would have cared they recast Shia, but Kathleen wouldn't like that.
Ruby Gillman Teenage Kraken had a lot potential I thought it would be one of the greats up there with How to train your dragon, when I saw the real reviews I was shocked to find out it flopped really bad. I don’t blame Dreamworks for the bad marketing I mostly blame Universal for the poor marketing because they were too focused on the Super Mario Bros. movie. As much as I mentioned that liked Ruby Gillman, it has potential, I am hoping they make a animated series on Netflix, Peacock or Hulu to repair the problems the movie had. So making a TV show would help make up for the movie. The tv series would show more of Ruby Gillman’s abilities as a kraken, and I would like see more interactions between Ruby Gillman’s family and her friends, the show would be a comedy, slice of life, and adventure with some episodes with certain themes and morals the audience can relate too and the show would introduce a new main villain into the world who would be a secret Men in black like government organization that are willing to capture Ruby Gillman and take her to a facility where they study Krakens and other sea creatures and their ultimate evil plan is to use mostly the kraken’s power and energy source as the weapon, milking the kraken’s health and energy.
Fun fact: Phoebe Waller-Bridge is the woman behind killing off James Bond in No Time To Die and since moved on to killing off Indiana Jones and soon Lara Croft for the Tomb Raider Amazon TV show 😱🙄😞
Speaking of Toy Story 5, I do wonder how well that movie will do financially. Will people actually flock to the theaters to watch it because it’s more Toy Story? Or will it bomb because of people getting sick of more Toy Story? I think it could go either way, but we’ll have to wait and see…
Meanwhile a small movie like Sound of Freedom that discusses an important and sensetive subject like human trafficking managed to go toe to toe with Indy 5 on release day, showing that people are fed up with the Hollywood agenda, narcissism and laziness.
They keep wanting to push movies out after 1-2 years of production, including story-boarding, recording etc, when really well thought out movies and stories require much more time, probably 3-7 years, to make a great movie. This is what happens when companies choose quantity over quality
20 buck and snacks ? Here in Australia your looking at 25 bucks a ticket plus double that if you get a drink , pop corn and choc top or lollies A family of 4 can easily top.out at over 200 dollars all included Gone are the 10 dollars ticket or half price Tuesdays cinemas use to have So if your going to spend 200 dollars or more for a family of 4 to see a movie Your better off waiting til mission impossible comes out in a week and giving Indiana 5 a very wide berth indeed
Same here, although the movies itself needed to have taken itself more seriously and play up the exagurated parts more and do more for her disguise and keep the fact that she herself is secretly a kraken hidden in marketting. Would have done wonders when they do something actually original and risky in an original movie instead of sticking to the formular.
@@bunnyconcubus8468 I really do hope this movie ends up getting a sequel probably in a form of a TV series considering a lot of DreamWorks movies have TV series that way they could fix a lot of problems in the movie. I am curious what you think of the character of Chelsea
@@animezilla4486Eh, to me it depends how popular and well recieved the movie was, I normally watch the dreamworks channela and love a lot of their seriesified works (wish Disney did this more) and only hope that Ruby Gillman would join it. ALthough I do hope that it becomes more adventure magic than was showna and they play up the waring races conflicts and racism a bit more with nuance as the 2 mc's try to stop a waging war from reingniting between their people and get the bloody humans more involved, it's happening on their lands too. AS for Chelsea's character, I love her. I do think that they need to play her up a bit more and give her more depth and clearer goals and have both of them play off their character flaws more, also I know they didn't want us to, but I couldn't help, but to ship Ruby to Chelsea.
@@bunnyconcubus8468 well as far as I can tell the movie has gotten a lot of positive reaction from people so a TV series could still be a possibility we'll have to wait and see also I will be interested if we explore more about the war between krakens and the mermaids. as for Chelsea she has become a fan favorite it's no surprising people want to see her get redeemed so she can become either a friend or girl girlfriend to Ruby I think it was because of that certain clip from the movie where the two characters were hanging out in the ocean
My biggest complaint about the movie is that it should have been a cartoon series instead of a movie. But yeah, I enjoyed it WAY too much with all it's issues considered.
Yes I absolutely agree, it comes down to writing. I'm always willing to accept so-so CGI if you at least give me a good story with decent characters. And as poorly as Disney and WB have been doing, I noticed Universal seems to get it. They released Puss in Boots and Super Mario Bros, and nailed it. I've been saying for a while, we NEED new ideas! I'm still frustrated Alita Battle Angel didn't do better, because it's everything we need. I really hope Hollywood figures it out soon and starts to understand that you need a good story, or they'll just lose more money.
I feel like Disney has been losing their way as of late. They need to re-evaluate and re-orient themselves and get themselves back on track again. I think learning from successes like Spider-Man: Across the Spider-Verse is something they must do Hopefully Disney's Wish will be a success when it releases in November.
As for Indiana Jones, they should've gone and tried to establish a likable legacy character, but as you pointed out Helena is anything but likable (or memorable).
Honestly, I've just been avoiding going to the movies as much as I can for pretty much all the things you're describing and more. These days, I just concentrate on anime, Tokusatsu shows (i.e., Super Sentai, Gridman etc.) and classic video games and cartoons
Me too In the past 5 years I've gone to the movies 3 times Yet before I'd go 5 to.8 times a year The last decent starwars movie was ROGUE ONE back in 2014 Since then it's been Kathleen Kennedy personal platform to preach her cult beliefs and views
I'll agree to disagree on the subject of Star Wars. *In addition to* "Rogue One", I found "Solo" to be VERY entertaining. (Not that you asked, I realize.) 😏
I feel bad for Ruby Gillman and Elemental because i really enjoyed those movies. They deserved better. I didn’t watched The Flash, Indy 5 and The Little Mermaid live-action because i wasn’t excited and didn’t care.
A while back a UA-camr by the name of DJ peachcobler did a video on how games budgets have become bloated and it's killing it and hus argument is during his time in the military when you got a big budget you effectively felt forced to use everything , to go bigger than before and how Doom Eternal fixed the issue by using it's budget to refine the quality of it's product rather than just making it longer or "Bigger" and honestly Hollywood NEED to learn this lower your budgets and focus on quality as remember the 3 sides of business Time , Ambition and Funds
I saw Ruby Gillman, it was cute and charming but it didn't make the waves it could have. I suppose as a 35 year old male, I wasn't really the target demographic anyway. Indy 5 on the other hand, I refuse to go see, Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade is my favorite movie of all time, and I'm just not interested in seeing one of my favorite movie characters be violated.
@@Wright805 yeah, based on discussion I've heard about the writing and the plot, it sounds like a miserable experience, and I don't want to even give it the benefit of the doubt.
I don't like how much Disney is trying to cash in on nostalgia without doing anything really interesting with it. Like maybe they can do remakes Alice in Wonderland style where it's the same source material in a new way. I think that'd be more interesting.
With lack of creativity and storytelling, the overinflated budgets and the copious amounts of moral grandstanding, Hollywood is in a dive. Puss in Boots, Peter Parker and Tom Cruise can only do so much with successes and if those three can't help you, nothing short of the divine can.
Maybe I see this a little different from many Indiana Jones fans, but simply go for the James Bond method and recast the main character. Indiana Jones is a bigger version of old adventure serials anyways. Keep the budget low, the story in the early 20th century, the cast fresh and the story in the hands of a single writer whose job is to write and not tick off boxes from a list that a committee has designed. The adventures of Henry Jones are simply not fit for a company like Disney, but for the kind that Lucasfilm once was. Give a hungry, new crew a small budget and the license to Fate of Atlantis and the audience will swarm to the cinemas.
I was really hoping Ruby Gillman would subvert expectations by having Ruby and Chelsea fight against a common enemy, even if it started with them fighting each other maybe it could've ended with Ruby convincing Chelsea to stop fighting so that they could actually stop the war between Krakens and Mermaids. Oh well
Work at a place with a movie theater attached to it, so I got to see Indiana Jones 5 for free, and it was the WORST Indiana Jones thing i've ever seen and I do *NOT* accept it as canon.
I only watched "Transformers Rise of the Beasts" and it was really good - this franchise might see a comeback and fill the void, that is only growing bigger, smaller sure but I think Transformers is back.
It's a shame because I went to see Ruby Gillman and thought it was a genuinely fun movie. Nothing super amazing, but certainly not the worst Dreamworks has ever stirred up (That dishonor goes to either Trollhunters Rise of the Titans or Shrek the Third in my opinion)
I just know DW is going to get the wrong idea from this.... "the audience didn't care for Ruby but loved puss in boots two? Time for more sequels then!"
Ruby Gillman has a really unappealing animation-style and its name is VERY boring and unappealing as well. I think a lot of people saw the animation and immediately decided it didn't interest them.
I great video uploaded on my birthday win. But seriously I was expecting Ruby Gillman, teenage Kraken to do way better. I also thought the Last Crusade to be the better ending for Indiana Jones and I will always feel that way.
Disparu did a decent examination of the 'cost cutting' argument today with a scathing cut at Amazon. Summary of it is that you can cut costs a lot anywhere in the budget but if the film/show is a stinker it'll still be a flop. The people in charge at these places need to be removed as they're all still making crap movies and horrible additions, only that'll fix things but I'm of the opinion that its over now, let the Hollywood monster die.
I mean they are spending WAY too much on movies now and movie theatres are likewise charging way too much to get us to come to see them. They keep acting like everything can go back to the way it was before the pandemic when the reality is that it can’t ever go back to the way it was. Until they accept that reality, they’re going to continue to fail at the box office like Little Mermaid, Indy, Elemental and so on and so forth.
Crazy times we life in right. Think of how much money has been lost. And not because the people working on the movies were bad, not all of them, but enough BS from above has made it box office poison. I hope that the animators in some of these projects find other jobs...
I also find that some movies just seem so unnecessarily long nowadays. Like I can stomach an hour and half flop, but some of these more recent films are north of 2 and half hours BEFORE the “mandatory” end credit scene. Now I’ve wasted my time and money.
Maybe with all these failures, that means they’ll be more thirst for great Contant and that means when hazbin hotel, people will rush to see it when it comes to TV
Interesting how in order for people to spend money on product they have to have money to spend- off how that works isn’t it? And when people no longer have my bey to spend on product, PEOPLE ARE LESS LIKELY TO SPEND ONTHE THEATRE.
Seeing Disney fail with all its trash is satisfying. But I like Transforners and I bet Ruby Gillman is better than anything The mouse house has made in years. That the Sound of Freedom is the Box Office winner this week is fitting justice.
@quangamershyguyyz7166 I wish, but all the evidence points to them being a corrupt, ideologically poisoned megacorporation that is best brought to ruin.
@@quangamershyguyyz7166 Disney is good (most of the time) when they make something original like Encanto, and not trying fix something that isn't broken.
I didn’t even know Ruby Gillman came out. There were so many bad movies coming out and being talked about that it flew under my radar. It’s disappointing too. I was hoping it’d do better than Disney’s lazy and woke Little Mermaid remake, but that doesn’t appear to be the case.
Despite what they've been doing with their franchises and films, I'd actually hate to see Disney go under. When they do what they do best, they're great. It'd be sad to see future generations grow up without that company really.
Hollywood is dead. It's time for something better. Something everybody can get behind. Something new but familiar. Something good. Something decent. Something pure.
Honestly, I don’t feel bad for Hollywood at all. They made these poor decisions. They are the ones who are out of touch with their audience. And they are the ones who can’t seem to learn the proper lesson.
People have been telling them for years. Pointing out the issues with their poor story telling. How attacking the fans is not it. That insulting and attacking the fans is not a smart movie. With them refusing to listen time and time again. Not treating legacy characters with respect. Rather acting like these legacy characters shot their dog. Characters like Rey, who lack personality, are to strong for context of the story, lack consistency in their powers and abilities, making it uninteresting and pointless to invest in any of their fights. For it not won through hard skill but due to being favor by the author. Poor writing in general.
Yeah they did this to themselves. By refusing to listen to feed back, when people were more than willing to give them all the feed back they desire. If they had listen to it, maybe they wouldn't be doing so badly now. For hollywood has forgotten. Feed back is the life blood to a creative media.
The studio don't want to learn or listen and just blame the audience and fans for thier screw ups
I agree. Just wait until Tom Cruise dominates the summer box office this year with the new Mission Impossible film.
The fact that a $40 million dollar budget film outperformed all these high profile flops on 4th of July was nice too. Even better when you find out The Sound of Freedom was originally picked up by Disney after the 20th Century Fox purchase and Disney tried to bury the film. Ouch...
@@Gruntvc Which does make it all the sweeter to see that film do better than disney. For after years of being insulted for merely wanting good entertainment. It hard to not take delight in disney doing badly. Given they keep trying to put out low quality products and do the same tactics that were already wore out years ago.
They will learn one day. Likely the hard way at this point considering.
"Does Hollywood know you can grow old and be happy and surrounded by loved ones?" A perfect quote to sum up a lot of what's wrong with recent movies. The belittling of established heroes so the new hero, who is always less interesting, is elevated. Folks have caught on to this game and are thankfully rejecting it.
Well, most Hollywood relationships don't last into old age, so maybe they're writing from experience.
well, to be fair. growing old and remaining happy and surrounded by loved ones is really rare these day it seems. Rare enough that i don't think i've seen any examples, but i haven't spoken to that many people so...
Star Wars starts off each movie with the Star Wars version of "once upon a time." But (and this was a problem even with the EU before KK tossed it all out) they never got their "and they lived happily ever after."
People still need stories with a "and they lived happily ever after".
@@liljenborg2517 It's a good way to end something, i think. Sometimes, you just need to let a series end. Toy Story was one of those series. It should've ended at 3, it had a perfect ending at 3.
@@liljenborg2517 IMO, the lack of happiness was a problem with Disney's Star Wars sequels. The EU showed Han, Luke and Leia actually prosper after ROTJ. They got married and had children, a somewhat stable family life. Of course there was conflict, what is storytelling without conflict? Still they experienced different levels of joy while still battling villains and saving lives. It would be nice to see Hollywood give characters that sometime.
Who else agree that films should have a smaller budget so they can get more creative with their film projects
Especially animated movies. There is no excuse for wasting so much money casting well known stars to do the voices, when you can just hire any voice actor to do the same thing- for a lot less money. During the disney Renaissance, Disney didn't rely on A list actors to do the voices of the characters. I think the only big name actors used during that time were Robin Williams and James Earl Jones.
Cause at this point they are spending money like crazy without being creative or putting any good ideas in the table
@@nerychristiangree it ridiculous how much money disney is spending on these animated film like it shouldn't cost that much
I think they should just have more competent directors and writers.
It’s been proven by the success of spider verse films those film both cause less than Indiana jones 300 million film and got a Oscar award for the first film and 97% critic rating. The second film blew up already grossing 615 million and 96% critics rating, the third film is so anticipated it’s definitely gonna make records at the box office. These movies not only are incredible they manage to main that quality and for some the sequel even surpass the first.
I ended up seeing Indiana Jones with a friend. It was profoundly sad, as you said. Also, like Hans Solo his son is also dead. I don't know why we have to eliminate even any trace of heroic/ classic characters bloodline from their universe. That's so miserable. I actually like my heroes to mostly end up happy. Not everything has to be a tragedy.
Indiana did end up happy. He reunited with the love of his life.
I loved it. Cried like a baby bc I was so happy for them👍🏿🙏🏿❤️
@@mananimal3644 Their son is still dead and they broke up over that because she couldn't handle it and apparently he wasn't supportive. Nothing changed and neither character learned or addressed that. They would be fighting over whatever broke them up before within a day. Also Indy is wanted for "murdering" his two colleagues and is in for a long court battle to set his name right and his reputation would already be tarnished forever. Plus one of his other longtime friends also died. And his untreated bullet hole that was considered fatal was never fixed either, in fact he was punched in the face so hard he blacked out. Which means he has an untreated concussion as well, which has a high chance of causing someone his age to have a stroke.
So no, he didn't end up happy, you can shill somewhere else.
it's intentional, the elites wanna depress us and make us lose hope so we're easier to control...
@@mananimal3644 So he ended up with an inferior version of happiness he had after Crystal Skulls. In Crystal Skulls he was already with the love of his life and the proof of that was to continue into the future, but that's gone now and he's been depressed for decades.
It's just a shittier rip off of Crystal Skulls. I was happy for them at the end of that movie, but this is just regressive and emotionally manipulative.
@@mananimal3644You sound like a bot😂😂😂
What you mentioned about Indiana Jones being depressing was exactly how I felt. I always liked the Indy films (yes, even the 4th one!) because they show him standing up against impossible odds, and the fact that he keeps going even when he's afraid or in danger. They're pretty inspiring. So seeing him old and washed-up was just sad, and yes, even cliche. An 80-year-old Indy kicking butt maybe wouldn't be entirely realistic, but seeing him doing his best and not even letting age pull him down would have been inspiring storytelling, not to mention respectful to Ford himself.
And Helena was horrible. At first she seemed great - I thought they were going the route of Pixar's 'Up' by having an excited young character drag the older one on adventure and helping them realize their life isn't over and they can still do great things. But nope, her likeable first impression was a lie, and she was an unrepentant jerk for most of the movie. I don't know why the writers thought she would leave a good impression on audiences. If they were going for 'strong female character,' I think they forgot kindness and compassion are key aspects of strength too, for any gender.
The filmmakers want you to think that after she tried getting him killed at least three times during the film she had a miraculous change of heart for no particular reason and showed her compassion by punching an 80-year old man dying of a gunshot wound unconscious. Then with the power of movie magic and a single screen transition she somehow healed all his injuries, brought him home, got the police to stop trying to charge him with murder(s), and fixed his marriage. Didn't revive his son from the dead though, so he's worse off than at the end of the last movie but if you're as stupid as the filmmakers want you to be you'll think it's better or that any of that made sense.
"If they were going for 'strong female character,' I think they forgot kindness and compassion are key aspects of strength too, for any gender."
Yes! Yes, yes, yes to all of this!
I am so sick and tired of seeing the "mistaken for stoic" character, especially when it's done with the females because it's so obvious to me that they are overcorrecting. "We need to show that this girl is tough, so she's an asshole!" No, that's not how it works.
It's the same mentality that turned Superman into a stoic, serious, no-emotions (except rage), bland and clichéd grimdark "hero" of the Snyder-verse. SUPERMAN! The nicest, kindest, "All I want to do is help" guy in the DC Universe.
However, I don't think the sole blame lies on the writers. They have far, far, far less power than many people think.
They can get feedback from directors and especially producers who have a "done by commite" mentality who will tell them to "Make this character stronger [by making them an asshole]" or similar stuff like that. It's the old "but the chart says" joke that people been doing for well over a decade now if not longer.
Poor writing, poor inputs on the writing and poor editing of said writing leds to poor scripts leads to poorly made movies.
What I think happened with Helena's character is that the actress is famous for staring on the series "Fleabag", where her character is a huge jerk, but in a way we sympathize with. I think the writers here were like "oh it's Fleabag lady, what if we write her like she's written in Fleabag?" Which obviously doesn't work for this movie.
I actually feel sorry for Ruby Gillman. I did want to see the movie succeed.
Apparently it was too safe.
Me too, I just saw it today
@@ctaco5112 was it good?
@@ctaco5112 Was it worth seeing in theaters?
Me too. And now, I fear that DW might have to cancel some of their projects due to the failure 😔
Ruby Gillman is weird one. I wanted it to succeed after Puss in Boots 2 earned Dreamworks so much goodwill, saw it, liked fine, observed its shortcomings, and then forgot a lot of it. All this in five days!
It's fun enough, but it feels like entire scenes and subplots were cut from it. The prom plot they introduce early on is forgotten almost immediately when the Kraken plot begins. Ruby's friends feel betrayed that she stops spending time with them after meeting Chelsea, but this is shown once in a quick montage and is handwaved away in two lines during the last five minutes, when the prom plot suddenly reemerges. She's a "mathlete" and tutor for her crush, yet Ruby sure never spends time doing math or tutoring on-screen. A sea captain with a vendetta against the kraken makes the town turn against it (unknowingly putting pressure on Ruby) and almost kills Kraken-Ruby, but he doesn't stay as much of an antagonist--he should've been either more villainous or less threatening but funnier.
Honestly, the film can be alright if you turn your brain off and laugh at some decent jokes, but I found that criticizing it gave me more to chew on. Better than Indy 5 or Elemental, that's for sure.
I like that Nimona is getting alot of praise, especially when comparing it to all these big budget movies.
When you think about that, it's honestly sad that a Netflix movie is doing generally better.
I really think Ruby Gillman would've been more entertaining if it was just them being friends. Like, no ulterior motives. Just a straight up cute story about a preppy mermaid and a dorky kraken developing an unlikely friendship and surviving human school.
As great as that sounds, I feel like people would compare it to elemental. Two people that come from opposing species form a companionship.
Sounds a bit too much like Luka.
You see that's something I would've watched. Or even if it just played out like a traditional mermaid good, kraken bad.
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I just saw Ruby Gillman today and while not on the same level as Puss in Boots I thought it was enjoyable.
I agree wholeheartedly that the trailers revealed too much and I think that definitely played a part in the poor box office.
And yes it was a bit cliched but I also think there’s potential in the idea. Maybe it’ll do well enough on streaming to convince Dreamworks to experiment with the story.
I hope 🤞
I have seen both movies. Ruby Gillman was a fairly generic but fun movie. It reminded me a lot of Turning Red, but I enjoyed Ruby Gillman way more.
Indiana Jones 5 was just a miserable experience. Aside from the dodgy de-aging, the first 20 minutes were pretty fun, but once it got to old and miserable Indy, the fun stopped and never recovered.
Say what you will about Crystal Skull, but at least the original team was still around, and had way more fun with itself.
Great video. It’ll be interesting to see what lessons will be learned when the year is over.
Am I the only who thinks movie advertisements are also getting worse? I didn't even know Elementals and Teenage Kraken were out until I saw how they flopped on the news
I think this is a result of all the targeted advertisement that companies like Facebook helped create. Certain people get bombarded with ads for the same movie while others never see it at all. It just doesn't seem to work.
Yeah i never see trailers that just have a thing off " starting July 12th in theaters" like a month ahead of time.
Granted i also run add block on pc. So part of it might be because of that.
It's honestly sad that Ruby Gillman flopped. I thought it looked interesting. But, like you said, it showed too much in the trailer
For real though the whole movie industry is taking Ls I miss the good old days of good movies
@@f.m4590 Oh trust me, there will be a WW3. They don't want you to know it's coming.
@@I-Will-Destroy-USocial media and how people act and behave there, also them not touching grass
Susan Wojocki, Mark Zuckerberg, and Elon Musk
NFTs and Crypto
All those dead celebrities who died the last decade (like Robin Williams, and Carrie Fisher)
Politics as a whole (left or right), and people never trusting opposing sides ever again, not even in the slightest
Mainstream political media twisting things in their favor (left or right), rather than just stating facts
People not going outside their comfort zones anymore
Gaming online subscriptions
Nintendo being a big bitch whose out of touch
Disney being a asshole whose also out of touch
AAA games not even guaranteed to be bug-free and content filed day 1 anymore (Fallout 76, Cyperpunk 2077, Pokémon Scarlet/Violet, etc)
Freemium Pay2Win games (or if priced, “fix it later” games)
Microtransactions and paywalls
Autotune being the most common songs you hear in the planet (usually Pop and Rap)
Memes being short-lived trends within a month or less rather than defining memorable moments
As much as I’d like to believe that Hollywood will learn from there mistakes with all these box office flops. I can’t help but feel doubtful about it. Especially with them getting on this mentality that if a film fails it wasn’t because of their own faults. It was because the audience is just full of haters.
They'll come around. The 5 stages of grief os a long and arduous process. Hollywood will learn sooner or later.
Minions looks like a movie I would take my grandkids to (and we have watched them together). Ruby Gilman looks like something I might take my grandkids to in _eight years_ when they're teenagers. It's not a kids movie - and too many people in America still think of animated movies as things only for little kids. Yes, animated movies from Japan can make some money in the American box office, but even highly successful anime movies, like Demon Slayer and Dragonball only made $30 - $50 million in the US market. The "I'm in my teens and I like animated stuff" audience is still a niche audience.
This isn't a new "problem". Disney movies like Treasure Planet and Atlantis or the Don Bluth movie Titan A.E. that were made more for a teen-ish (hey, ain't all those kids watchin' that Japanimation stuff nowadays!) market, also flopped in the movie theaters, even though they're good to great movies - and certainly better than Disney movies like Home on the Range and Brother Bear (and all their direct-to-VHS-sequels) from that time.
I did like it
Brother bear was great wdym
I was about to watch the teenage kraken movie, but I saw mission impossible dead reckoning available and I watched it instead. W movie ngl
The original director for Ruby Gillman was going to be Paul Tibbitt, the man behind some of the best SpongeBob episodes, he probably would have made a much better movie than what we got.
Hollywood is full of hateful people who think they're good because they hate the right kind of people, whereas everyone with an iota of sense knows that's just not how it works. These hateful people can't tell good stories because they can't identify with the characteristics of heroism, rather they create characters who are fundamentally awful people, because the people creating them are fundamentally awful. These characters are author/producer self-inserts because their own twisted perspectives are all that these people are able to understand and when audiences reject it and call out these characters for being awful people the authors/producers take it personally because for them it is personal, they are being personally rejected via their self-insert characters.
I work at a theater so I’ve seen every recent movie for free. Some were not worth it even when it cost nothing to see it
I use to work at a movie theater too but I saw alot of the stuff that came out in 2022 for free
I agree that the trailers for Ruby Gillman, Teenage Kraken gave away too much.
Before watching Ruby Gillman, I was thinking that after Ruby and Chelsea/Nerissa's fight, they would team up to defeat a common enemy and after that, Ruby and Chelsea/Nerissa become true friends and so do the rest of the krakens and mermaids. What they went with was a little shallow.
Hollywood will probably learn the wrong lessons from all of this.
Nostalgia tends not to work, when you muck around with what makes them "nostalgic." So if they're banking on that solely, modern day political inserts for no reason was not the way to go about it. You'd think they'd have learned from the Sequel Trilogy's profit trajectory... but no. Only way I even heard about the Ruby Kraken movie was from streaming sites... so that doesn't exactly surprise me. It's also a fairly niche hoped for audience. (What kid is going to know what a kraken even is these days?) But then again, if you wanna break a few eggs, ya gotta get Kraken- I'll show myself out now...
* Also, they did send Indy out with a bang... it was just from Bon Jovi, rather than celebratory. : /
I saw Ruby Gillman twice in the theater. And I liked it betterthe second time. I found the lead to be adorable and thought the visuals looked pretty. Yes, the trailers were spoiler-heavy, but I tried not to let it bother me. Hopefully I can support it by buying the Blu-Ray and not JUST through streaming.
Agree 👍🏽
Maybe all the stuff about heros ending up old and alone is because the creators are afraid of that fate lol
Perhaps if they made some good films they can turn things around.
Could you make smth to appeal to people you despice?
You know, one one hand I feel sorry for Elemental and Ruby Gillman. They weren't amazing, but their worse crimes were just being kinda safe, so I kind of enjoyed them. And honestly, it seems like their studios wanted them to fail.
Flash and Indiana I don't because 1. the stuff with Ezra Miller and how Warner just didn't say anything about it, and 2. For WHAT POSSIBLE REASON did Disney look at their 300 MILLION DOLLAR MOVIE (keep in mind, that doesn't count marketing) that NO ONE was really looking forward to, and think "yeah, this is a good idea."
They're unfortunate casualties of all the goodwill that has been burned by Hollywood. So many people are just not in the habit of seeing movies anymore and tickets are so much more expensive. People need a very good reason to go see a movie, so simply being non-offensive isn't enough of a draw.
Elemental was actually good so it’s a shame it failed
@@chucklebouf5379there’s also an issue with “non offensive”. Offensive to who? Because let me say no one gets more offended then right wing conservatives at the existence of a single gay character with 2 minutes screen time 😂
Literally every Disney movie that includes diverse characters gets complaints from “offended” white men so
You gotta clarify who you mean. I’m a queer disabled person, but I don’t care that much if a movie has no queer or even disabled person in it. But it is amazing to see someone like me in media, but then half the population throws hands because *every* character has to be like them.
@@harmony8623 I think they mean "offensively bad or obnoxious." Because as a straight white guy, I get what you mean.
Okay, so I've seen Indiana now...
That was the most boring movie I've seen all year, so my original point still stands (never seeing The Flash though)
Disney Probably: "I say we blame the fans for our failure, do the exact same thing again, and expect different results".
I wish Dreamworks had tried a little harder making the story for Ruby Gillman interesting because the character designs are great.
My simple theory, Hollywood fails and will continue to fail for two simple reasons:
1) Those responsible for these films are extremely incompetent at their work.
2) These idiots make movies to please themselves and not the public, and it seems that many have already realized this.
They think they're helping killing off and makeing the old white male heroes miserable and replacing them with insert diversity check mark here not understanding people of all walks of life loved those heroes and only a narcissist would want to replace them with a self-insert with no real personality. You want a female Indiana Jones go make a new franchise instead of ruining his happy ending from crystal skull but no it was never about that all recent Lucasfilm movies have been about Kathleen Kennedy's ego trying to destroy George Lucas's legacy because she was just an unimportant coffee girl on the orignal three movies but wants to be important and watching the movies made by Lucasfilm since she took over it's very clear it's all about her beging for atention.
I could be wrong but I personally feel like it's just theatres that are dying, I think people have realized that they don't really enjoy the movie-going experience and so they don't. I don't think theatres will just disappear but I think they will become a very less common thing and just devolve into something smaller. And only block busters like spider verse or End game will get any attention when it comes to grossing
the only Ws they been getting are Video Game Adaptations, Tom Cruz, Spiderman, and the Guardians of the Galaxy, Avatar got lucky
I’m honestly suprised that Ruby Gilman didn’t do so well, especially when *that* part of the internet made boat loads (no pun intended) of “fan art” of the characters.
Let’s just hope there are cosplays of the characters at the conventions.
Sauce?
@@theunicornbay4286 literally rule 34 the name and you will be drowning Krakussy and mermaid poon.
I would be surprised at the speed at which the “fan art” piled up but, the internet works fast.
Look, times are tough. I was willing to spend all that money on Spiderverse but many other movies just didn’t seem worth it
In Indiana Jones and the Dial of Disaster, you can tell they had to do reshoots to change the story last minute. This wasn't meant to be a send-off as it was meant to be putting down the character of Indy, and allow Phoebe to Rey --Palpatine-- Skywalker of the series moving forward. What is with Hollywood not letting old characters being happy and going out with one last hurrah? They should have just kept it Indy's son takes over, just hire a new actor, no one would have cared they recast Shia, but Kathleen wouldn't like that.
Ruby Gillman Teenage Kraken had a lot potential I thought it would be one of the greats up there with How to train your dragon, when I saw the real reviews I was shocked to find out it flopped really bad. I don’t blame Dreamworks for the bad marketing I mostly blame Universal for the poor marketing because they were too focused on the Super Mario Bros. movie. As much as I mentioned that liked Ruby Gillman, it has potential, I am hoping they make a animated series on Netflix, Peacock or Hulu to repair the problems the movie had. So making a TV show would help make up for the movie. The tv series would show more of Ruby Gillman’s abilities as a kraken, and I would like see more interactions between Ruby Gillman’s family and her friends, the show would be a comedy, slice of life, and adventure with some episodes with certain themes and morals the audience can relate too and the show would introduce a new main villain into the world who would be a secret Men in black like government organization that are willing to capture Ruby Gillman and take her to a facility where they study Krakens and other sea creatures and their ultimate evil plan is to use mostly the kraken’s power and energy source as the weapon, milking the kraken’s health and energy.
Fun fact: Phoebe Waller-Bridge is the woman behind killing off James Bond in No Time To Die and since moved on to killing off Indiana Jones and soon Lara Croft for the Tomb Raider Amazon TV show 😱🙄😞
Speaking of Toy Story 5, I do wonder how well that movie will do financially. Will people actually flock to the theaters to watch it because it’s more Toy Story? Or will it bomb because of people getting sick of more Toy Story? I think it could go either way, but we’ll have to wait and see…
Indiana Jones and the adult diaper is definitely a miss.
These new "writers" lack the ability to create.
Meanwhile a small movie like Sound of Freedom that discusses an important and sensetive subject like human trafficking managed to go toe to toe with Indy 5 on release day, showing that people are fed up with the Hollywood agenda, narcissism and laziness.
They keep wanting to push movies out after 1-2 years of production, including story-boarding, recording etc, when really well thought out movies and stories require much more time, probably 3-7 years, to make a great movie. This is what happens when companies choose quantity over quality
20 buck and snacks ?
Here in Australia your looking at 25 bucks a ticket plus double that if you get a drink , pop corn and choc top or lollies
A family of 4 can easily top.out at over 200 dollars all included
Gone are the 10 dollars ticket or half price Tuesdays cinemas use to have
So if your going to spend 200 dollars or more for a family of 4 to see a movie
Your better off waiting til mission impossible comes out in a week and giving Indiana 5 a very wide berth indeed
I don't care what anybody says Ruby Gilman teenage Kraken is an absolute treat and I'm glad to see DreamWorks is doing original movies
Same here, although the movies itself needed to have taken itself more seriously and play up the exagurated parts more and do more for her disguise and keep the fact that she herself is secretly a kraken hidden in marketting. Would have done wonders when they do something actually original and risky in an original movie instead of sticking to the formular.
@@bunnyconcubus8468 I really do hope this movie ends up getting a sequel probably in a form of a TV series considering a lot of DreamWorks movies have TV series that way they could fix a lot of problems in the movie. I am curious what you think of the character of Chelsea
@@animezilla4486Eh, to me it depends how popular and well recieved the movie was, I normally watch the dreamworks channela and love a lot of their seriesified works (wish Disney did this more) and only hope that Ruby Gillman would join it. ALthough I do hope that it becomes more adventure magic than was showna and they play up the waring races conflicts and racism a bit more with nuance as the 2 mc's try to stop a waging war from reingniting between their people and get the bloody humans more involved, it's happening on their lands too.
AS for Chelsea's character, I love her. I do think that they need to play her up a bit more and give her more depth and clearer goals and have both of them play off their character flaws more, also I know they didn't want us to, but I couldn't help, but to ship Ruby to Chelsea.
@@bunnyconcubus8468 well as far as I can tell the movie has gotten a lot of positive reaction from people so a TV series could still be a possibility we'll have to wait and see also I will be interested if we explore more about the war between krakens and the mermaids. as for Chelsea she has become a fan favorite it's no surprising people want to see her get redeemed so she can become either a friend or girl girlfriend to Ruby I think it was because of that certain clip from the movie where the two characters were hanging out in the ocean
My biggest complaint about the movie is that it should have been a cartoon series instead of a movie. But yeah, I enjoyed it WAY too much with all it's issues considered.
Let’s hope Mission Impossible, Oppenheimer and Barbie don’t disappoint
Hopefully the studio will recalibrate some of their efforts, I’d love to see another new renaissance from Disney.
Yes I absolutely agree, it comes down to writing. I'm always willing to accept so-so CGI if you at least give me a good story with decent characters. And as poorly as Disney and WB have been doing, I noticed Universal seems to get it. They released Puss in Boots and Super Mario Bros, and nailed it. I've been saying for a while, we NEED new ideas! I'm still frustrated Alita Battle Angel didn't do better, because it's everything we need. I really hope Hollywood figures it out soon and starts to understand that you need a good story, or they'll just lose more money.
I feel like Disney has been losing their way as of late. They need to re-evaluate and re-orient themselves and get themselves back on track again. I think learning from successes like Spider-Man: Across the Spider-Verse is something they must do
Hopefully Disney's Wish will be a success when it releases in November.
_Box office flop?_
I didn't even know Ruby Gillman was out in theaters before _UA-cam recommended me this video._
As for Indiana Jones, they should've gone and tried to establish a likable legacy character, but as you pointed out Helena is anything but likable (or memorable).
Honestly, I've just been avoiding going to the movies as much as I can for pretty much all the things you're describing and more. These days, I just concentrate on anime, Tokusatsu shows (i.e., Super Sentai, Gridman etc.) and classic video games and cartoons
Me too
In the past 5 years I've gone to the movies 3 times
Yet before I'd go 5 to.8 times a year
The last decent starwars movie was ROGUE ONE back in 2014
Since then it's been Kathleen Kennedy personal platform to preach her cult beliefs and views
I'll agree to disagree on the subject of Star Wars.
*In addition to* "Rogue One", I found "Solo" to be VERY entertaining.
(Not that you asked, I realize.)
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3:06 Ruby Gillman reminds me of Disney's Luca (2021), fish people that hide their identity in order to live in the human world. Very derivative.
I feel bad for Ruby Gillman and Elemental because i really enjoyed those movies. They deserved better.
I didn’t watched The Flash, Indy 5 and The Little Mermaid live-action because i wasn’t excited and didn’t care.
A while back a UA-camr by the name of DJ peachcobler did a video on how games budgets have become bloated and it's killing it and hus argument is during his time in the military when you got a big budget you effectively felt forced to use everything , to go bigger than before and how Doom Eternal fixed the issue by using it's budget to refine the quality of it's product rather than just making it longer or "Bigger" and honestly Hollywood NEED to learn this lower your budgets and focus on quality as remember the 3 sides of business
Time , Ambition and Funds
Its a shame. I loved ruby gillman 😔 it was a really cute and fun movie. Not a masterpiece by any means but still a good movie
Funny cuz Mission Impossible everyone wants to see. So its just mostly Disney sucking.. and poor dreamworks who people mistake for disney.
All these L's are giving character development
I love the semi analytical but also viewer based perspective of your analysis. Hollywood is indeed crazy but it's one fun ride for us viewers.
I saw Ruby Gillman, it was cute and charming but it didn't make the waves it could have. I suppose as a 35 year old male, I wasn't really the target demographic anyway.
Indy 5 on the other hand, I refuse to go see, Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade is my favorite movie of all time, and I'm just not interested in seeing one of my favorite movie characters be violated.
You're not missing anything. It's a complete insult to Indy.
@@Wright805 yeah, based on discussion I've heard about the writing and the plot, it sounds like a miserable experience, and I don't want to even give it the benefit of the doubt.
Aren’t Kraken related to Octopus? Couldn’t they changed their skin color to human colors?
I don't like the idea of watching a children's film that rags on another children's film
Is there a reason to attack Ariel?
Streaming killed theaters. I'm not going to pay to watch a movie that I know is going to be on streaming in a couple of weeks.
I don't like how much Disney is trying to cash in on nostalgia without doing anything really interesting with it. Like maybe they can do remakes Alice in Wonderland style where it's the same source material in a new way. I think that'd be more interesting.
With lack of creativity and storytelling, the overinflated budgets and the copious amounts of moral grandstanding, Hollywood is in a dive. Puss in Boots, Peter Parker and Tom Cruise can only do so much with successes and if those three can't help you, nothing short of the divine can.
I saw Ruby Gilman Teenage Kraken. It was fine to pretty good.
Should not have bad mouthed made of Ariel (ala shrek 2) in Ruby maybe THAT was a factor
Maybe I see this a little different from many Indiana Jones fans, but simply go for the James Bond method and recast the main character. Indiana Jones is a bigger version of old adventure serials anyways. Keep the budget low, the story in the early 20th century, the cast fresh and the story in the hands of a single writer whose job is to write and not tick off boxes from a list that a committee has designed. The adventures of Henry Jones are simply not fit for a company like Disney, but for the kind that Lucasfilm once was. Give a hungry, new crew a small budget and the license to Fate of Atlantis and the audience will swarm to the cinemas.
films have been going downhill for a long time now
I was really hoping Ruby Gillman would subvert expectations by having Ruby and Chelsea fight against a common enemy, even if it started with them fighting each other maybe it could've ended with Ruby convincing Chelsea to stop fighting so that they could actually stop the war between Krakens and Mermaids. Oh well
I will agree movies need to get the budgets under control.
Work at a place with a movie theater attached to it, so I got to see Indiana Jones 5 for free, and it was the WORST Indiana Jones thing i've ever seen and I do *NOT* accept it as canon.
I only watched "Transformers Rise of the Beasts" and it was really good - this franchise might see a comeback and fill the void, that is only growing bigger, smaller sure but I think Transformers is back.
most entertainment is just hollow on all points is a big problem
My dad fell asleep during the new Indiana Jones
I’m gonna be real, I literally didn’t even know Ruby Gillman existed. Maybe marketing is to blame?
lol how? It was everywhere 😅
It's a shame because I went to see Ruby Gillman and thought it was a genuinely fun movie. Nothing super amazing, but certainly not the worst Dreamworks has ever stirred up (That dishonor goes to either Trollhunters Rise of the Titans or Shrek the Third in my opinion)
They will never touch gigantic
I just know DW is going to get the wrong idea from this.... "the audience didn't care for Ruby but loved puss in boots two? Time for more sequels then!"
Well at least Disney isn’t the only one suffering.
I didn't know Ruby Gillman was out in theaters. Mainly cause I haven't seen this film being advertised.
Tell that to Maverick and Mario Bros. 😂
those movies were actually trying to appeal to Top Gun fans and Mario fans
Ruby Gillman has a really unappealing animation-style and its name is VERY boring and unappealing as well. I think a lot of people saw the animation and immediately decided it didn't interest them.
I great video uploaded on my birthday win. But seriously I was expecting Ruby Gillman, teenage Kraken to do way better. I also thought the Last Crusade to be the better ending for Indiana Jones and I will always feel that way.
Happy birthday!
Disparu did a decent examination of the 'cost cutting' argument today with a scathing cut at Amazon.
Summary of it is that you can cut costs a lot anywhere in the budget but if the film/show is a stinker it'll still be a flop.
The people in charge at these places need to be removed as they're all still making crap movies and horrible additions, only that'll fix things but I'm of the opinion that its over now, let the Hollywood monster die.
I mean they are spending WAY too much on movies now and movie theatres are likewise charging way too much to get us to come to see them.
They keep acting like everything can go back to the way it was before the pandemic when the reality is that it can’t ever go back to the way it was. Until they accept that reality, they’re going to continue to fail at the box office like Little Mermaid, Indy, Elemental and so on and so forth.
Crazy times we life in right. Think of how much money has been lost. And not because the people working on the movies were bad, not all of them, but enough BS from above has made it box office poison. I hope that the animators in some of these projects find other jobs...
Disney has reverted back to their early 1980s Dark Age. Poor decisions and costly flops.
Disney gave Wish a $200M budget like Elemental!
I also find that some movies just seem so unnecessarily long nowadays. Like I can stomach an hour and half flop, but some of these more recent films are north of 2 and half hours BEFORE the “mandatory” end credit scene. Now I’ve wasted my time and money.
Ruby Gilman was just turning red
Although my personal expectation is that DreamWorks succeeded as a middle fingers to Disney but sadly that such expectation didn’t work
It’s a Shame
I told you, J. I told you. *FLOP! ERA!!!!*
Maybe with all these failures, that means they’ll be more thirst for great Contant and that means when hazbin hotel, people will rush to see it when it comes to TV
Reasons like these is WHY RRR IS SO POPULAR AND BELOVED
So popular and beloved
Never heard of the teenage kraken movie at all until this video
Interesting how in order for people to spend money on product they have to have money to spend- off how that works isn’t it? And when people no longer have my bey to spend on product, PEOPLE ARE LESS LIKELY TO SPEND ONTHE THEATRE.
Seeing Disney fail with all its trash is satisfying.
But I like Transforners and I bet Ruby Gillman is better than anything The mouse house has made in years.
That the Sound of Freedom is the Box Office winner this week is fitting justice.
I think Disney is still good sometimes. And I don’t like seeing them fail a lot.
@quangamershyguyyz7166 I wish, but all the evidence points to them being a corrupt, ideologically poisoned megacorporation that is best brought to ruin.
@@quangamershyguyyz7166 Disney is good (most of the time) when they make something original like Encanto, and not trying fix something that isn't broken.
I didn’t even know Ruby Gillman came out. There were so many bad movies coming out and being talked about that it flew under my radar. It’s disappointing too. I was hoping it’d do better than Disney’s lazy and woke Little Mermaid remake, but that doesn’t appear to be the case.
Despite what they've been doing with their franchises and films, I'd actually hate to see Disney go under. When they do what they do best, they're great.
It'd be sad to see future generations grow up without that company really.
Hollywood is dead. It's time for something better. Something everybody can get behind. Something new but familiar. Something good. Something decent. Something pure.
Kingdom of the Crstal Skull IS Indy's send off!
Dial of Destitude is just a KK vanity project
I have seen both
The acting of Indiana Jones was a flop
Unfortunately Ruby Gillman as well