The Book of Mormon and Freemasonry (Part 1) - Dan Vogel
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- Опубліковано 28 кві 2022
- In this first video, I will explore the ways in which the Book of Mormon reflects anti-Masonic rhetoric, especially how it relates to the presidential campaign of 1828.
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As an English teacher having read the book of Mormon the level of literature skill is non existent. However there is a genius in it in that it has misled so many. Truly it is effective in this satanic effect.
Misled, how? I joined the church based on the truths found in the book of mormon. The literature skill is simple and this is a translation based on plates. The plates themselves can be complex but when translating to English, a much never lanaguage comparatively, it will appear simple. Heck, the Bible is simple. Truth is a very simple matter and that's what the Book of Mormon is. Also hearing the struggles of people isn't satanic... how so? It appears you aren't a teacher but a sheep who got into the Anti-Mormon cause and can't see beyond that.
Just because he wrote a book and created a new church/religion doesn't mean you have to jump to the label of satanic. Geez
@@HarshitGarg-CRA the Church is full of great people, but it teaches a polished history of Joseph Smith and the Book of Mormon that is not accurate. There is no such thing as "Reformed Egyptian", the language Joseph claimed the golden plates were written in.
Joseph orally dictated the BofM while looking at a stone placed in a top hat, which he claimed was a "seer stone". Which he found nearby from a friend in a well.
Since a teen, he claimed to see hidden treasures. He led treasure hunts based on folk lore methods, earning fame and modest pay, but never ever found anything. He claimed the missing treasure was "slippery" due to guardian spirits. He even lead animal sacrifices to appease these spirits. The lore was that the spirit of whoever buried the treasure, guarded the treasure. Hence the concept of Moroni.
In 1826 he was taken to court for being a disorderly person, a "glass looker" and told to stop leading visionary hunts for gold.
In 1827 he claimed to find golden plates, which no one else was allowed to see. The 3 Witnesses state they did not see the plates with their natural eyes, but spiritual eyes only in a vision led them by Joseph Smith. Martin Harris and David Whitmer were known to frequently claim to see things. Oliver Cowdrey was willing to do anything for Joseph to be part of his cause, including lie, which he did often. Including, to defend Joseph in court.
The 8 Witnesses hefted plates while covered, but never admitted to flipping any uncovered plates seen with their natural eyes. Rather with their spiritual eyes only, which is the same as not actually having seen them. None of them would admit when questioned by others that they had actually seen the plates with their physical eyes.
The Church doesn't have the plates today because they never existed. There are zero archaeological artifacts from any Book of Mormon time civilizations. DNA tracing shows that Native Americans absolutely did not come from Jerusalem.
The First Vision was recorded 18 years after claimed to happen. All visitation accounts including Peter, James, and John were backdated into the record. And evidence strongly shows none of these visitation events actually happened.
The LDS temple endowment was taken from the Masonic Temple ritual. LDS Garments bear the Masonic symbols square, compass and ruler. This was the un-ignorable eye opener for me. Church admits Joseph took Endowment rituals from Masonry and has no link to Temple of Solomon or Bliblical times. That was a rumor at Joseph's time.
Once you find out that Joseph was...a fraud (sorry if that sounds harsh)...everything else quickly makes sense.
You don't have to wait for the next life to find out if the Church is true. Or continue to search for and proxy baptize billions of deceased people to save them. With the internet now, the truth claims that formerly served as pillars of Church Doctrine are now shown for what they are. Never true in the first place. It's wild, I know.
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The only thing I'm loyal to is the truth. "And the truth shall set you free."
If it causes people to do good and promote good then is it Satanic? Can someone Satanic produce good?
@@mrlds3202 In the book of Moroni, Joseph writes "that which brings one closer to Christ is good". He said this to justify his ideology of how it's okay to lie for the Lord. Or deceive people for a "good cause". I think it's a false litmus test for correct morality.
There used to be many idiosyncrasies with Church doctrine that I couldn't square. Egregious things like saying Native American people have dark skin because of their loathsome sinful predecessors. This is a false doctrine. It's destructive. It's uniquely Mormon.
Doctrine Covenant section 132 says that those who do not accept the doctrine of plural marriage will be the Servants of those who do, for eternity. This is a false doctrine. It's destructive. It is uniquely Mormon.
Brigham Young taught that black people are black because of the mark of Cain from committing murder. This is a false doctrine. It's destructive. it's racist. It is uniquely Mormon.
My Grandfather was a non-Mormon cop in Ogden, he said that the Mormons took over the Freemason symbols.
They all are basically.
I've heard many a story where the man would laugh and say when that policeman found out I was a Mason he kind of got mad because he knew he couldn't give another Mason a ticket hahaha
@@ronalddaub7965if they want to achieve rank, it is what it is.
Mormonism is Masonry with little difference. It’s so obvious the LDS had to change their temple weddings because of the obvious ties because some morman men were already masons and this caused some uncomfortable questions to be asked to leadership.
I'm so happy I refound this channel randomly. I was actually trying to remember the name of the channel but forgot it after years! Such a great channel.
Very glad to see more content from you. Your work is important, well researched, thoughtful, and most importantly factual and evidence-based.
Always appreciated.
In high school they told us if we ever read a book by an ex mormon we would immediately be excommunicated for being a heretic. So of course I went out and read one.
When I was in high school my bishop gave me a titty twister and called me gay because I couldn't dunk the basketball
Congratulations to you, this group is usually really hard to pull out members. It is so cruel.
they also told me all brown and black people were descendants of cain, so as a mulatto i wasn't worth shit basically@@ryanatthejobsiteomit8027
Imagine a biology professor saying they'd kick you out of college if you read a book by a young Earth creationist.
amazing analysis! can't wait for the next parts!
Keep them coming Voguel you’re doing an amazing work
How have I missed the existence of this UA-cam channel? And once again, everything is changing...
Good thing I took my vitamins
I grew up Mormon. My family went on the Pioneer Trail. 4 words disprove Mormonism. "The Book of Abraham".
Yup I continue to hear this as I research so I may help Mormons out
I can prove the book of Abraham is true
@@AmeeraG242 the book of Abraham is true including the descriptions to the hieroglyphs. The translations aren’t supposed to translate the actual Egyptian, but the Egyptian back to what it originally was meant to be. Which is the gospel of god. The Egyptians stole the gospel from the Bible and created false gods and a false religion. Abraham is showing us what it is actually supposed to be. The true gospel. It explains it all. I received revelation from god that that is what it actually means. There is so much that goes into it. It’s like a code that only true Bible knowers can figure out. It’s absolutely incredible. No one knows it though except a small few. It reveals so much about the story of Joseph of Israel. But it’s almost coded. You have to put it all together. That’s why Joseph smith had the book of Joseph also along with everything else when he was translating everything.
@@anikarowland9122 where could one learn more about this?
absolutely false! Abraham was the seed of all nations by promise from God. there is absolutely nothing secret or hidden in the Bible. God's word. that is absolutely false testament. the ancient egyptians did not decipher anything. their knowledge came from satan!
I hope this helps more Mormons break free from the cult.
What cult?
@@youngkennypreach8558 The Mormon cult
@@marthell6159 it’s The Church of Jesus of Christ of Latter Day Saints…. How is it a cult ?
@@youngkennypreach8558 found the cult member
Not going to happen. They all know that DNA has proven it's a total hoax, yet they still absolutely embrace it.
I’m so glad you’ve made more videos! I started listening to your Mormon history videos 8+ years ago. I’m agnostic myself but find religious history fascinating. Learning about Mormon history from your presentations was so enjoyable and satisfying. I felt I could trust your detailed research. I appreciate all the time and energy you have invested to tell this intriguing story!
I'm so glad you find my videos useful. Thanks for watching and commenting.
I pray you will seek Jesus out , he loves you and is very real
The best lies are mostly true. I am no Mormon neither am I a hater. Im a Christian. But I do think Mormon geography is a mostly accurate description of N. American history. Joseph Smith got a hot tip from someone...and based off of what little I know of the dark arts and channeling --it could be anyone on the other end.
I sincerely thank you for your scholarship. Looking forward to part two.
This was excellent, thank you for your detailed research and organized manner of explaining the history! Can’t wait for Part 2!👏
The video I’ve been waiting for! I remember commenting on a previous video asking for Dan to do a video on this very subject. Dan replied to that comment that he wouldn’t be doing it but good things come to those who wait. Thanks Dan! Can’t wait for part 2!
Rasmussen…Any relation to a missionary who went to LA in 1990?
I've been waiting for this Masonic/Mormon wake up call too! It takes little to recognise Masonic influence in Mormonism, especially the Temple ceremonies. In the 21C many secrets are coming to light. The Book of Mormon does not accord with the Bible. Its a different doctrine that undermines true Christianity.
@@bryceburgart8544 nope sorry
Thank you God 😊 💓 ☺️ 💛 😊 💓
@@punchforpound2808 these are two ancient groups that are followed in the BOM that traveled to the americas from the middle east
It appears that Joseph was alot more gifted and educated than the Mormon church wants to admit. He played on the superstitions and ignorance of the people of his time.
How do you know Joseph was the one calling the shots? Couldn't he have been a puppet?
@@realityinfiction exactly, he was probably just following the spirits he channeled
So MOTE IT BE
People still believe in superstitions and are more ignorant now than back then. lol
Or did he represent the people and their concerns?
Documented history is not kind to unwanted truth.
Ignorance is caused by either not having the will to learn or by having knowledge of truth withheld from you deliberately.
Wow, I really enjoyed this. Fantastic work!
Thank You Dan, your work is awesome
How or where can get this book for my personal study please.
some general remarks:: Thurlow Weed in his autobiography devotes a chapter to William Morgan. He says Knights Templar Freemasons confessed to him they murdered Morgan . Weed was instrumental in forming the anti masonic party and was its first candidate, as I recall.
J. Smith roomed with the Harris's. He married Her in C. 1838... Lucinda Morgan Harris (Smith) was the widow of William Morgan. Mr Harris was a Freemason. (So were J Smiths dad and brother Hyrum) After JS bit the dust Lucinda married JS! for eternity. And she married Mr Harris "For Time". (The Nauvoo Endowment Ceremonies a Documentary History). Lucinda was Mormonism's first to practice Mormon polyandry.
Some say Sidney Rigdon stole Spaulding's book and Sid and Joe met secretly to concoct the BofM.. (Origins of....Mormonism, S. Smucker)
Thanks for your remarks. I do not support the Spaulding theory, but argue that Joseph Smith wrote it. Spaulding died in 1816 and would not have written the Masonic-inspired passages and many others as well. Some argue that Spaulding's manuscript was rewritten by Smith and Rigdon, but that is a stretch.
Dan, this is so fat-free and full of quality material. You hit on the 12/25/1832 prophecy about the Civil War. Is there any evidence that the South Carolina detail was added later on?
"The nullification crisis was a United States sectional political crisis in 1832-33, during the presidency of Andrew Jackson, which involved a confrontation between the state of South Carolina and the federal government." (wikipedia) As you can see, there was no need to add SC later; it was at the center of the crisis even in 1832.
In c. 1837 Harriet Martineau in her Retrospect of Western Travel said that when a revolution began it would be Fort Sumpter S. C.... Joe could only name the state. It was in the air. she wasn't a prophet and neither was Joseph's Myth
South Carolina did not cast a single vote for Lincoln in the 1860 election...
Love your office library!
Wonderful Dan! This is perfect timing. I appreciate your research and presentation. I wanted to leave a donation but didn’t see a button. Thank you
Great job Brother Dan. Keep it up.
You gave this topic "The 3rd degree" great job!
E. D. Howe's quote at 9:31 has me wondering if he considered it a possibility that Smith was some sort of prophetic person. I would need to read the context of the quote.
I used to watch your videos all the time because I tried to get my wife out of the Mormons. I left that church in 1987 after being raised in the church since birth. I was Mormon for 37 yrs, Well I tried for twenty yrs., but to my ever lasting sorrow, she wouldn't leave even after all of the hard evidence I showed her. Now when I watch your videos it just reminds me she is still there.
My advice is to stop trying to deconvert her. Let her be. It sounds like she has made an informed decision. That's all you can do. Just love her where she's at.
@@danvogel6802I know that's good advice and that is what I am currently doing. Thank you. I've watched your videos for years. Probably seen them all more than once.
@@garyolsen3409 That's great. Thanks.
Dan Vogel’s back, baby!!!
Im so glad you decided to examine this connection and the influence freemasonry had on the development of the Mormon "religion". Your research is always impeccable, so I cant wait to watch this!!!
Campbell, father and son, were Ulster Presbyterians, and therefore opposed to any kind of "secret societies" against liberty in their new country. It was pretty much a given that Brother Campbell would have been able to sense the BoM's "answers" to issues in the Burnt Over District of NYS, and how those were more modern than ancient.
Bill Cooper’s Mystery Babylon series is one of the best sources of info on some of this stuff
Thank you Dan forever for all the time you have personally spent researching all of these matters for decades for little in return so that future generations can be assisted in their search for “greater light and knowledge” or rather truth regarding all that is shown and all that is behind a partition of discomfort.
Crisp, swift, and always enlightening. Man Vogel, I LOVE your materials both print and video!
These videos are great!!
Dan, thanks for making these videos and all of the research you’ve done to hold people accountable to the truth. I hope it makes you smile to know that a Mormon church ad was at the beginning of your video. I hope you get some $ from that.
This is really good - thank you Dan Vogel
I enjoyed watching/listening to this, specially since Dan never seems to inject any personal beliefs or opinions and just lays out the straight undeniable information from the specific times and peoples! That is always the safest and most factual way of going about these kinds of videos in which a historical topic or issue is being questioned, examined or studied! If I were to actually go into this a little deeper though I would definitely highlight a bit more on the fact that Joeseph Smith and his family have definite ties to Freemasonry, along with many other early leaders and followers! Along with the fact that many of the books teachings and "knowledge", along with much of the Morman secret/private rituals and ceremonies, considered by them to be of great importance and are performed within specific rooms and areas of their temples/churches with specific members, are very similar if not the same as certain Freemason rituals/ceremonies! When examining the two its almost impossible to mistake the similarities between the two! So yes their are most definitely both pro masonic and anti masonic aspects to Mormonism! Therefore I would think it to be important to remember certain aspects and beliefs of Freemasonry, such as their high regard to the duality of life and everything within it! Usually symbolized visually/physically by their prominent display of the black and white checkard board on certain garments and within most temples! The black and white checkard board pattern specifically symbolizing an inherent necessity for the duality of all things such as good can only exist, and is just as important as evil! One can find these dualities within most aspects of life or this world! Therefore it is well known that Freemasons also believe in applying this to their dealings and personal involvement when it comes to them shaping or influencing worldly matters such as directing government and/or social matters! The Freemasons will purposely infiltrate and play both sides of an issue or political party, etc... So it shouldn't really be to much of a surprise that the Mason early Mormons might have very well played both sides and made Mormonism seem to be both pro masonic and anti masonic at the same time, so that they could more easily go along with whichever narrative best fits them and their agendas/growth/influence during whatever specific period of time! This is what I believe to be the truth based on the examination of involving further research!
You don't know shit. William Morgan was booted from Freemasonry by his brothers for ripping folks off. The Morman Church was founded by lying dirtbag grifters. Religious zealots, charlatans, and atheists are the only men barred from Freemasonry.
This is an interesting take. Have you watched that Altiyan Child’s video?
The black and white chequered pavement or carpet does represent the duality of life and the occurrence of opposites in nature, but it doesn’t necessarily mean that Masons hold evil to be as important as good (or atleast in my view - evil exists, don’t get me wrong, but it’s not what I think about when I see that pavement)
If you want to debate, the guys on the Freemasonry Reddit are much better than I am, plus you can get an international viewpoint.
Well said! You expressed the ting yang of life as well as Mr. Vogel. “ There must needs be opposition in ALL things”.🤭
Just a query.. do you think Mitt Romney kept his temple vows to himself at the risk of losing the presidential victory.?
Many powerful men have been masons. If Romney had admitted to his vows. he would have shown the similarity of Masons and LDS thus giving away the fact that temple ceremony was just the same as Masons.
Damn. Tell it!
This NeverMo has been waiting for Freemason info 😊
Thank you Dan, history is fascinating.
Your research is appreciated.
Na history or his story? KJV holy Bible is the word
Calm down there sugar plum
@@RobertWallace-wo9ct calm or truth? Be real brother AMEN I love thy Lord God
This was a well wrapped package..
Nice to see a new video from Dan!
Complete GRATITUDE..... 🙏🏽
What a way to start my morning!
Yes it is wonderful to find out facts and truth, in regards to the creation of the book of Mormon.
Wow~!
I am, by inclination, an historian.
There are many facts herein that
I have not encountered in my
extensive studies either of America,
Masonry, or the Mormons.
Kudos~!
the word america comes from the latin word americus. it translates to the land of the serpent.
Thank you for the truth, this was one of the main reasons I left Mormonism, the first reason is they worship a totally different Jesus!!
They really don’t worship anyone!!! But K understand what you are saying!
They worship evil!!!
Matt 12:30 Anyone who is not with me is against me. Anyone who does not gather sheep with me scatters them
Amazing how Mormon theology changes with the wind. When US. Congress refused to allow Utah statehood, due to polygamy & pedophilia .God came to the Mormon church and told them to give up multiple wives & sex with children... In1978, Jessie Jackson led a planned Salt Lake City protest of Blacks non admission to the priesthood & the temple. 100,000 Black men were organizing a protest in Utah of racist Mormon church teachings; Then, that same year, God then came to the Mormon church and told them black people were now okay. For 180 years, Mormon church taught hateful things towards Gays. Now in 2023, after bad press, God has told the Mormon church to back off the condemnation of Gays...Interesting timing of God's revelations & heat the Mormon Church was feeling.
When is Part Deux gonna be ready?
In a few weeks. I'm revising my upcoming biography of Joseph Smith.
@@danvogel6802 cool
Appreciate your efforts.
Extraordinary call outs on BoM masonic phrases as well as focusing on conservative teachings of the day. Back in the 80s, masonic BoM terms were somewhat well known by us lay folk, but back then we believed Masonic folklore that it was ancient. It wouldn't be until the invention of the internet and WWW that we would learn otherwise.
Some very old sects of freemasonry obviously after 1717 did practice theurgy. If by freemasonry they are referring to actual theurgy then yes it is ancient since theurgy predates civilization by many millennia. However, modern day freemasonry is something else altogether. Just a bunch of apron wearing nepotists in my eyes.
@@Sapientiaa We know concretely the the ritual adopted (JS called it restored) by Mormons was developed in the early1700's. There is nothing ancient about it.
@@kentthalman4459 You just said “the” ritual when there were many that came from Neoplatonism, and ancient Egyptian apophaticism.
@@Sapientiaa Lets make this really simple, Royal Arch Masonry. You don't need to go back any further. Quit gaslighting.
@@kentthalman4459 “Quit gaslighting”
You aren’t being gaslighted. It’s very clear that you don’t know what it is you’re talking about.
Joseph Smith was a Mason.. how could the Book of Mormon be anti mason?
That's what I want to know, without watching a 50 minute video.
@@codetech5598 I agree ☝️. I am a mason but not a Mormon. I thought I’d like their church but their doctrines are not in line with my beliefs as a Christian
@@jvhamby5 you can’t serve 2 masters, you’ll never be ascended if you truly love Christ js
First edition of KJV also has Mason logos. And King James also joined Freemasonry. They are enemies of God.
@@historysmysteriesunveiled8043 you do not know my relationship with Christ… please move forward with your beliefs to true lost people. We need to be fishers of men like Christ taught his deciples when he told them to cast on the right side of the boat. Think about it
This stuff is fascinating!
Freemasonry is not all that secret. Freemasons have ritual temple work. You can find a ritual outlining the temple work at second hand book stores occasionally. I have heard that LDS also do temple work but I don’t have any idea if the rituals are in print. I was a member of a Masonic youth group. Our advisor was indeed a member of the LDS church. It was my great privilege to crown her daughter Honored Queen of the youth group we belonged to. Thank you “advisor “ for your constant help and guidance to keep our organization from falling through the cracks.
Isn't it curious that the golden angel Moroni atop the temple lost his horn in that last earthquake. He will not be able to blow his horn/warn his flock in the end days...
If so much of the Book of Mormon reflect the Political Hot button issues of 1828-1830 America then what does it have to say about Slavery?
Also the salt lake temple has masonic symbols all over it and alot of the rituals have similar aspects that match masonry.
YOU ARE ROCKING IT!
It appears the antics of the District Of Columbia, (geographically in the womb, directly between VIRGIN IA
and MARY LAND... Hmm) and Federal Politics in the early 1800's, was just as real as WWF Wrestling back then as well.
The Cinderella Story of Jackson and his "Jacksonians," sounds vaguely similar.. Nah, keep voting from the Selected ones, that we have the Right, to Vote from..
The Morman's historical account of the North American continent is what truly interests me.
Solid video, whether I agree with the Political Theatre accounts, or not.
I went to opening of Norman temple. Because I watched it being built. In d.c. but what was odd. Important floor was the 6 th floor
They do like numbers
Excellent. Thanks!
Damien Echols opened my mind up to some connections
Now I am very curious
Fascinating
Thank you Dan for your research. This would of great help in my research of religion rooted from freemasonry. (Morons, Jehovah's Witness etc....)
If you publish any of your research, let us know.
Its so good knowing these religious institutions designed to pacify the human race are being thoroughly exhumed and exposed for the false hope they've promised, if you find any information regarding such connections please show this through video references. Ive found very little connections linking JWs to freemasonry online but have personal knowledge that could be of value but do not dare disclose this to public domains until a more safe time. Religion and its influences will be done away with in generations to come as people realise there is no intermediate between the creator and creation, and no man that fears or worships institutional organisations could ever be acceptable by men. I believe this video and the many more available is helping to break the chains of fear of man these religions bring through false doctrines and allow free thinking individuals decide there fate on earth.
Wait JW is rooted in freemasonry?
@@deucealmighteeJW, it was absolutely created by 33rd degree Mason which has a tombstone that is a pyramid
@@ronalddaub7965 i started this vid, but havent finished it yet. That part is gonna be interesting
Keep the content coming !!!!!!! Ex Mormon because of people like you
Glad you escaped!
Moroni does say that the record was preserved to come forth in our day and was written for our benefit. He saw our day and sent warnings for it. It doesn’t surprise me that the warning of the Book of Mormon would be relevant to the time and issues of some of the issues of the day. “Secret combinations” is a curious phrase and it’s worth asking the question raised here. What’s more important is asking God if the book has relevance to your life and will it point you in the way of truth and light? For me it does. I receive truth from God in all the sources it comes from. Any truth God has for His children comes under scrutiny and is most often rejected. I’ll watch part two to see if Dan ever has a point. The research is impressive though. Thank you for your time in compiling it.
Are you saying the Book of Mormon contains truth or that it is completely true?
So nothing in mormon scripture has any problems? Honestly?
I believe J. Smith was a religious free thinker of his day. He just couldn’t accept Protestant Christianity on its surface. As the LDS church states he was a questioning young man.
Possibly the BOM came about as a kind of “channeled” experience,
@@seans5289 yes
The Bible was written first in Hebrew then translated to Greek, and then retranslated from the Greek back into Hebrew. Since Moroni does not exist in any form in Bible, where do you suppose Moroni came from?
Smith made it up, just like he made up the "golden tablets". If it came from Smith's imagination, then is Smith some kind of god?
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Thanks for this very interesting presentation. I've always wondered how it could be that JS changed his opinions on so many topics on such a massive scale in only a few years. Including going from a condemnation of "secret combinations" to an adoption of masonic rituals in the temple ceremony. It seems to me that his mind possessed a fluidity which allowed him to immerse himself fully into the thought life of his environment and then to come up with a creative synthesis which was subject to change because this process never stopped. I think this process itself was what he experienced as prophetic revelation, not necessarily the content of it.
It's almost like he was just some dude who made it up as he went along...
@@hiker-uy1bifacts
Joseph seemed to have changed his mind about freemasonry by the 1840s, when he joined them and incorporated their rituals into his religious practices.
Outstanding ... a total banger ... looking forward to part 2. 😀
I’m curious as to why you used the term “BCE” and “CE” instead of “BC” and “AD,” respectively?
I use the former because they are neutral
@@danvogel6802 I disagree. They are offensive to most Christians.
@@thermionic1234567 I hope more than Christians are watching my videos. I'm sure they will get over it.
@@danvogel6802 Yours is definitely a niche subject. The Conspiracy Crowd is definitely quite heterogeneous, but those of us concerned with Mormonism are overwhelmingly orthodox Christians.
@@thermionic1234567 how are you calculating that statistic that it's overwhelmingly orthodox christian? BCE and CE are pretty standard in an academic setting.
I appreciate your work in presenting your studies an an efficient Utube format. Your insights are great and your research thorough. However, it seems any discussion of Masonry in early American history must include the war between Freemasonry and organized religion, especially the Catholic and Lutheran Churches. Masonry was perceived as the friend of small protestant religions. In fact, the very similar Knights of Columbus was organized by the Catholic Church to offset the Masonic threat. The Book of Mormon condemns the "great and abominable church" as often as it riles against "secret combinations".
Masonry is a big subject indeed. Thanks for commenting.
Wow! Wonderful research, thank you so much for sharing it with us!
very interesting...almost like the Star trek.. episode concerning Veeger...they had formed a Religious society and served Veeger.. but it turned out to be Voyager....
TY, very interesting
EVERYTHING YOU NEED TO KNOW ABOUT THE LDS IS IN THEIR ARTICLES OF FAITH. THEY WARNED ABOUT END TIMES & EVENTS IN MESOAMERICA TIMES AND ITS WHY THEYRE CALLED THE CHURCH OF (LATTER DAY SAINTS) NOT The CULT SECTS
Jesus said "It is finished". Turn to the True Christ and true Gospel before it's too late.
Lol, since there are thousands of Christian denominations, the "true gospel" is up for debate more than ever. Then you basically start where Joseph Smith started, inquiring which of these churches were true.
@@charlesmendeley9823 the true Gospel is found in the Bible not these fake heretical counterfeits.
@@TheAntisocialSocialitePodcast Are you referring to the Catholic bible or the protestant bible? They differ in their books.
@@charlesmendeley9823 in either I'm sure Jesus isn't the half brother of satan.
@@charlesmendeley9823 original Jewish and Greek manuscripts are still available to read which would be where we got our English translations from.
So the "Latter Day" part of the name comes from panic related to Andrew Jackson's election. That is awesome!
I want to accept , but what good would it do me ?
The false Temples make me sick ! Rituals , lies and deceit .
God’s written promises for adding and subtracting from scriptures!
Revelation 22:18-19; I testify and warn everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book [its predictions, consolations, and admonitions]: if anyone adds [anything] to them, God will add to him the plagues (afflictions, calamities) which are written in this book; and if anyone takes away from or distorts the words of the book of this prophecy, God will take away [from that one] his share from the tree of life and from the holy city (new Jerusalem), which are written in this book.
those words are written specifically about the book of Revelation not all scripture everywhere or the Bible in general- especially because the bible as we know it wasn't all bound together at the time of its writing.
@@ghostwriter5295we are to keep the Holy scriptures from Genesis to Revelation
Deuteronomy 4:2; You shall not add to the word which I am commanding you, nor take away from it, so that you may keep the commandments of the LORD your God which I am commanding you.
@@DivineKingsBeloved but yet the scribes and translators have done such by subjugating the word to fit their own understandings.
The letter kills but the spirit gives life. The truth is written on our hearts.
You can see this all across the internet as people argue over the word meanings and offer up endless interpretations. I am not trying to dissuade you from anything you may believe but perhaps confirm that the kingdom is within like Jesus said. He clarified to us what love truly is.
@@ghostwriter5295 God’s will be done and no one will change the TRUTH in LOVE!
So will My word be which goes out of My mouth;
It will not return to Me void (useless, without result),
Without accomplishing what I desire,
And without succeeding in the matter for which I sent it.
For the word of God is living and active and full of power [making it operative, energizing, and effective]. It is sharper than any two-edged sword, penetrating as far as the division of the soul and spirit [the completeness of a person], and of both joints and marrow [the deepest parts of our nature], exposing and judging the very thoughts and intentions of the heart.
So we have the prophetic word made more certain. You do well to pay [close] attention to it as to a lamp shining in a dark place, until the day dawns and light breaks through the gloom and the morning star arises in your hearts. But understand this first of all, that no prophecy of Scripture is a matter of or comes from one's own [personal or special] interpretation, for no prophecy was ever made by an act of human will, but men moved by the Holy Spirit spoke from God.
Joe Smith Sr. was a Past Master, as was Hyrum during the invention of the book of mormon. Jackson was a Grand Master, and Adams was virulently anti mason as was his father.
Political rhetoric is seldom accurate. After Morgan's assumed murder in 1826, Masonic membership decreased to the point that the Palmyra Masonic Lodge, along with many others in the area, closed. We do not know what Hyrum's attitude was, but a letter from JS warned he to beware of the Freemasons as he was attempting to leave New York for Ohio in 1831. Stay tuned.
As a mormon raised child we went to church at the Masonic Temple.
If I was you I would drink a few bottles of Holy water or something
I thought they hated the freemasons
@@joecrowe7062 joseph smith was a mason and copied the rituals for Mormons
I'm glad you made this video :) I actually ordered a Masonic bible for curiosity and research purposes. I go sometimes to volunteer at a food bank and I was giving a mormon bible and well I don't believe in their traditions yet I accepted the bible so I can do research on it and other religions :) I found interesting that even Celts would worship a Christ. Suppdely Joseph Smith was revealed the true gospel and that Christ is white but many people argue what race he was
"The Masonic Bible" is that the exact name? I would like to research myself.
The oldest Bible in Ethiopia doesn't show a white Christ nor does oldest Christian art in Europe.
@@cardpuller17 really show me proof
There are 2 kinds of Masonic Bible.
They are almost always a KJV.
The 1st kind is a KJV bible with a cover, with a square and compasses or Masonic motifs on the cover. There are no other differences to any other KJV bible. Most bible printer have a version with a cover embossed with the above mentioned symbols, specifically for Freemasons - just as they will have covers with army camouflage for members of the armed forces who want a special bible.
The second kind is a bible made specifically by a Masonic printing house. This is also a KJV bible but it will invariably have a few pages at the front with bios of various characters mentioned in Freemasonry like Solomon, King of Israel, Hiram, King of Tyre, Hiram Abif, etc. also descriptions of the First and Second Temple at Jerusalem, and mentions of other things in Freemasonry - with the relevant scripture. That’s it, usually a few pages and completely separate from the OT. Sometimes between the OT and NT in the book there is a section for you to record your Masonic dates and highlights. The most famous of these bibles is one published in America as a family bible by Heirloom Publishers. Because America, there is also a section of military dates, ranks and deployments and also family records (marriage, births, deaths, etc.). This is an incredibly popular bible for Lodges and masons for the above reasons.
If you buy a Masonic bible expecting to find a bunch of books and verses that aren’t in a regular KJV bible, you’ll be pretty disappointed.
@@cardpuller17 that's interesting imma look it up 🧐👩💻
Wasn't Joseph Smith a freemason?
Mr. Vogel: Can you please address how BOM can be "anti-masonic" when so rife with masonic things & stuff? Could that be a little ruse? Such ruse is so characteristic of mormon facttactics. Thank you for YOUR FACT-CHECKING proofs, historic disputations & refutations.
Interesting combination of facts.
@6:26 the secret combinations are at the pinning of a 33; before there are no applauds; at the pinning, the adept's pinner Vulcan squeezes the shoulder and gives a neutral command that prepares the pinnee for a question: are you a Good man?...yes, he goes left...no, he goes right...hidden society forms to the right, naive public-facing to the left
it is anchored by their feeling of "final approval"
Secret societies JFK
The Mormons just visited me last week gave me a book, 2 young kids(I live in NY too)
Combinations of work, choices, phrases and characters of conduct is in combination.
Except Smith's last words were, Is there no mercy for the widows son? A mason message of distress.
Who knows what is really going on? Not me!
Well put together but missing some information. It wasn't mention that Joseph Smith Sr. is to have supposedly join the Masonic fraternity just before Joseph's birth or just after. And that his brother Hiram Smith joined in New York before the publication of the book of Mormon. Also that Brigham Young was a Freemason before he read the book of Mormon and continued with his Masonic membership until his death even after The Exodus from Illinois.
having being a member of both access to this information is very easy to get a hold of. This era is still taught in the LDS church and still a story floating around in the Masonic lodges in Illinois, but definitely not taught. The George Washington bit was pretty good but it is well established that Washington was talking about Adam Weishaupt and his Bavarian Illuminati, who tried to infiltrate Freemasonry for political gain because believed that Freemasonry in combination with his Illuminati would give him that power (see the documentary illuminated 2019). The quote was in connection to that.
Thanks for your comment. While it is quite certain that Joseph Smith's brother Hyrum was a member of Palmyra's Mount Moriah Lodge, the evidence for the father's membership is weak.
@@danvogel6802 That's why I typed supposedly.
@@_005 Just wanted to make sure. I'm glad you caught that. Not everyone does.
freemasons are the foot soldiers for the illumanti. washington knew this he was a member! there are paintings of him with the hidden hand. that is a freemason sign. they speak through signs and symbols. especially in art. its no coincidence that the illumanti is birthed in 1776.
Moroni… sounds like plural for “moron.” Perhaps that should’ve been the first clue. 🤦♀️
Would Extortion? Be the word for it? Thank God I only spent one and a half year in the church!
Thank you
In the book is it pearl of great price? Or doctrine of covenants? There is a page w a picture. The Same!!!!!!!! One that is in the free mason Bible! The Egypt picture.
One word... satanism.
washington being a mason is over played he later wrote that he had not attended a mason meeting in years
Thank you Dan. What a load of rubbish the book of Mormon is. How can any but the most inellectually stunted believe this fairy tale as the truth.
Yeah same with bible, talking donkeys hahaha 🤣
I don't know where you get your information from but the Freemasons Bible does the King James version masonry is not a religion it just basis some of its degrees on scripture from the King James Bible I've never heard of it having anything to do with the Mormons
Three levels of heaven ? where do you find that