Thanks for reacting to my video, and making such a detailed breakdown! It's always nice to see another perspective on my work, I appreciate it! To answer your question, I'm not a vet, I am just someone that does a bit of research here and there about various stuff, including military history. There are some things I got some things wrong in the video, such as the Leman Russ tank advancing unsupported and the trenchlines being quite straight instead of jagged, but still thank you very much for your praise!
as i see it, the leman russ scene,while not being entirely accurate,serves as backgroud setup. a soldier has a tank that rolls and waltz right over his head, he doesn't moves because that's just thursday for him.
@@RedFeralWolf I'll second this. You should check out his Siege of Vraks. It's a seminal work on a minor war and he's currently doing the Badab War which is Space Marine focussed. He does a lot of in depth lore videos and if you want to dip your feet into Warhammer Fantasy Battles, he does videos on that too.
Well, Yes and no They had sisters in training operate as liaison officers when it was needed And before someone says I know it was a joke, my reply is for those who saw this and go "how did that work actually?"
@@bengrogan9710 Yeah, I believe the Sisters of Silence have their neophytes follow around their officers to translate, as the neophytes have not taken the Oath of Tranquility yet, but were already taught several sign/spoken languages.
The whole combat shovel thing isn't just a meme, because German Strumtroopen of WW1 used trenching tools with a bladed and serrated edge, the original idea was to use it as an improvised axe or rope cutting device, but people quickly found out that it made an excellent CQC weapon because you were always carrying it, it was long enough to have more reach than a knife or other weapons like it, it was wide enough to block an incoming attack, and it was light enough you maneuver quickly, while still being heavy enough to do some serious damage if you hit someone with it
@@lucascoval828 Like a fucking mace, other weapons were improvised from what could be found like sharpened and bent nails and whatever a soldier may get their hands on.
its not just the germans of ww 1, its continued today... the US green berets have a particular fondness for weaponizing their e-tools, as does the US military in general throughout the years.. and im pretty sure its a reoccurring thing in other armed forces...
@Matsudo Ambition Standard ones - A Cadian pattern rifle gets 100 shots on standard, firing at the same strength as a Lucius Pattern they can get 25 shots but would burn out their barrel's lenses in around 15. Essentially the Lucius pattern is a Reinforced Marksman's Longlas
@Matsudo Ambition Standart krieger: lucius pattern lasgun, semi auto hard hitter. Grenadiers: Lucius H pattern. Full auto, No bayonet log (cause the thing would just melt the bayonet) and unstable to a degree (if you try to hit somebody with it. The thing is likely to blow up)
There is a fan canon that when Korpsman die, they go to a world in the warp called Terranis. It’s not heaven, just a normal peaceful world. They don’t stay there, they reincarnate when they’re needed by the Emperor again.
@@Counterpoints me"ohhhh... the dead black eyed darkness soulsless fiends" Conner"yeahhhhhhh...the cold blooded....and slightly psychopath and suicidal....killers of Krieg"
@@Counterpoints oh it's 'he who dares..wins'...Conner..just letting you know...check only fools and horses sometime ok..sitcom from England from the BBC
That whistle though; That is a very important peice of history as whistles like those where used to signal troups to go over the top. Its a chilling sound if you know what it meant.
Funny enough, a guy named SODAZ also made a Death Korps of Krieg video this week that is made remarkably well. You should check it out if you haven't already seen it!
fun little thing i noticed both combatant's wait for the other to ready there weapon and the krieg actually nods to his opponent that they start and i see the sense of respect for the other in those actions...
@@11Survivor he who doesn't shy away from glorious melee combat has the respect of the God-Emperor himself, shame some would follow Khorne instead of following the path of Mankind
It’s very refreshing to see someone who already knows the lore and backstory of 40K and not just getting into it or completely new. I also really appreciate the acknowledgment of things like the present arms stance and that 38,000 years of tradition can change what we recognize. Fantastic video
This setting is probably is the siege of Vraks. So for the longest time the defenders weren't chaos cultists, rather mislead followers of the cardinal, who may or may not have knowingly doomed them all to chaos anyway. But that's why there isn't much of the typical chaos iconography
From their uniforms to their suicidal tactics, Krieg really are the perfect shock trooper against those who thrive on fear. To quote Willy Wonka, "You win, NOTHING! You get, NOTHING! GOOD DAY, SIR!"
The guard holding his gun up is probably because they're in a trench. You don't want your gun sticking in anyone's way in such a confined space or worse, pointing at someone. Keeping it up is best and also means reacting quicker to enemies over the trench edge if they somehow manage to surprise you.
Yeah. Chekov was a russian author and playwright and he once said that if you mention a gun on the wall in the first act, it should go off by the third. Basically, the idea is that everything an author describes should be important to the story in some way, otherwise, the author is wasting time on it.
Death Korps of Krieg are one of the few Imperial guard regiments that actually give me historically accurate vibes. Don't get me wrong, I love the "ramboish" appeal of the Catachan regiment and the pompuos uniforms of the Mordians, but Kriegsmen are SO well into ww1 setting and tactics, that in my opinion stick perfectly with 40k environment. Great review!
From what I understand, Krieg lasrifles are different from the regular pattern not just in the external design, but also that they don't have automatic settings but are semi-automatic only. Death Korps are basically the clone troopers from Star Wars and the Sontarans from Doctor Who: Vat-grown, so basically off a production line with no doubt many looking exactly like the other underneath their gasmasks with a fatalistic drive to die in combat in the name of the Emperor.
The head nod before fighting eye to eye is cool. Just like, this is gonna hurt and one of us is not gonna walk away. Even heavily trained and indoctrinated, that little of humanity is neat touch.
Stubbers and autoguns are different things. A stubber is basically a modern firearm, though probably far more advanced in materials and engineering. An autogun is basically your general sci-fi kinetic weapon and ranges from caseless ammo to gravity-propelled projectiles and anything in-between. There are also ones that used casings but even those share the power of other autoguns. The main difference so far as the lore is concerned is that a stubber smaller than a heavy stubber or, up close, a handcannon is incapable of penetrating flak armor at any range and from any angle. An autogun shot rips right through flak armor easily. Y'know, unless it's one of those "flak" armors with plates of ceramite or plasteel in them.
@@olivinator you forgot keep them from freaking out any other regiments that may be fighting alongside them since every other type of guard regiment is creeped out by them
I did notice that both the smoke grenade and the frag grenade looked identical. Which could be a problem if you want to know what kind of grenade you are throwing at the enemy (although might be beneficial for confusing or distracting the enemy). I suppose this could be overcome if there are some sort of subtle markings on the grenades denoting their type, and the kriegsmen could then put all the frags on one side of their kit and the smoke on the other side to separate them out and make it easy to tell which kind they are grabbing during the fight (if I grab a grenade from my left it's a frag, if I grab a grenade from my right it's smoke).
I enjoy your attention to detail. As a veteran of Iraq it made me realize how many of those details I was simply dismissing as normal, rather than recognize them as something a civilian wouldn't generally conceptualize. As for the video, I love how the Kriegsman responds with his entrenching tool, snapping it out as if to say "come and get it".
Even today one of the deadliest weapons a german soldier gets handed out is the "Klappspaten" (colapsable entrenchmenttool). If you are in close-quarters-combat with a german who has got a Klappspaten YOU WILL GET MESSED UP. ^^
I noticed a someting in the final fight:The kriegsman nods before the fight...i think they made it a duel after the heretic figured his rifle does not work...Because the kriegsman could be sawed in half while pulling out the shovel so the heretic had some honor
it's awesome because both sides respect each other in that duel. the Kriegsman respects the heretic for allowing the moment to get his entrenching tool, and then they begin at the same time. it's beautiful!
I am not a gamer don't know anything of this universe, came by algorythme to this video and was impressed by the artistic and visual quality of this, really amazingly done on al levels ! Grtz from Belgium.
The one that SOADAZ has done is something you should watch : [워해머,Warhammer40k]Death korps of krieg. The charge of the Death riders is something you should see for yourself.
To make a small clarification on the bayonet stab, instead of withdrawing the blade when he twisted it, he cut the rest of the way out of the side of his neck to do even further damage
06:38 I'm pretty sure I remember hearing about similar soldiers in a different work of fiction. They went out of their way to create that air of terror and mystery, to the point they completely soundproofed part of their helmet, so their voices are inaudible and they all communicate via built-in radio. So, as far as anyone on the outside knows, they do it all without saying a word
Never heard of redirecting the bayonet to cut in different direction. I have to admit that my knowledge is limited, but I do know some basics and it seems to me like every country approaches bayonet combat slightly differently (WWII german was instructed to aim at ribcage, and tilt the rifle so the blade wouldn't get stuck in between the ribs, and that's pretty much it, no cutting afterwards, Czechoslovakians pre-WWII were trained to aim at stomach and once the hit is made, proceed to pull upwards, since the bayonet was sharpened on the upper side this would cause a lot of damage, and I'm pretty sure that there were other approaches depending on the design of the bayonet).
why would the average kriegsman even need to learn how to read or write? they just need to learn how to fight, follow orders, and not care about dying in the cause of the emperor. The officers are the ones that need to be taught how to read and write. heck, most imperial citizens do not know how to read or write anymore if I remember right. they are only taught as much as they need to know to do their jobs and no more.
@@Rembanspellsong To answer your question, it's beneficial for them to be able to follow sign posts and read maps. Example: a krieg squad is reporting enemy activity in a city. They can can look at the street sign post and report to HQ "hostiles at Veronica street. Request support" (or something like that). Also, imperial worlds varies from planet to planet. On some worlds, what you've said (regarding literacy) is true, but on some its not.
@@chanachon56 that's officers calling in that stuff, the average krieg guardsman is lucky to get a vox bead so he can hear the orders instead of them having to be relayed to him by the person carrying a vox box.
I knew next to nothing about the Death Korps other than that they were cool looking when I first watched AN's video. Now I like them, a lot. Thanks Counterpoints for enlightening this humble fan!
You're the first person I've watched to notice or comment on the rebel taking a glancing round to the helmet. And I never noticed that he threw his gun as a distraction till your video, A+ from me!
do you get a feeling that the autogun the heretics used is somewhat inspires by a twin barreled japanese aa gun? en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Type_96_25_mm_AT/AA_Gun i sure as hell do
Fun fact about the Kriegsmen las-gun, they’re designed to be overcharged, allowing them to deal more damage than say, the ones used by Cadians. The gun the kriegs use is actually powerful enough to punch into Space Marine Armor (sometimes) the major downside however is the number of shots available, last I checked depending on the model, it was usually only 8 to 20 shots
A small point about the voice acting is, the more I thought about it, the more the voice acting made sense. Not just for the reasons you listed, but also because, as I'm sure you know, many (if not most) in the Krieg regiments are actually children. The voice didn't sound so deep and stoic as we'd expect from a Cadian, because they aren't full-grown soldiers yet.
A detail that often gets wrong in games and media is that lasgun shots are red while in canonicly lasgun shots are blue, lasguns of heretics can come in red but is still uncommon.
The Commisars other job in the Korps is as Tactical Advisors. Yeah, they get killed by the Korpsmen, but they need to make sure they don't die too early.
Just found your channel and have to say I love how you broke everything that was important down at the right times. So you got a sub from me and thank you for your service. As a long-standing 40k lore nut I've always been an Astra Militarum fan and seeing one of my favorite Guard factions getting some attention like this from you has been an utter treat. I look forward to seeing more 40k content from you in the future!
I do have some lore breakdowns under their own playlist and also did an Astartes reaction. I’ll be doing the Sodaz Krieg video next week and then probably the Astartes 2 trailer after that.
5:00 -- The Present Arms position might actually be because of all those shooting and war movies that picture shooters/soldiers holding weapons muzzle-up because it looks cool. It appears they are all carrying muzzle-up.
19:40 It wasn't a frag, its a concussion granate, krigsman don't often use frags on trenches, as well as ww1 soldiers, only frag bunkers and trench structures, to use a frag on a "trench hallway" risk accidentally hiting friendlies or compromises yourself, as its too close, and there's too little space to take cover, and corners, most often, aren't a good protection against the grenade shrapnel
Btw for those who might be confused as to why he threw away the rifle since it’s still effectively a spear, it’s a pretty reasonable thing to do granted that the weapons integrity has been compromised. That chain axe just ate through 2/3rds of the weapon, so a heavy strike being parried or given with the rifle may just end up breaking it and getting the guardsman killed.
Around 4 minutes, that principle being talked about is one I like referencing all the time when talking about good structure in film and series that I watch with my partner. I'm sure you've either looked it up or been told by now, or maybe even figured it out before the end of the video, I didn't watch that far yet, but it is Chekov's Gun. For me, I've simplified it down to "If you have a gun, you must fire it by the end."
Commissars are pretty funky, they are specifically not part of the regiment chain of command. They are attached as advisors. A regiment has at least one senior regimental commissar with junior commissars under her spread out into the companies. But they can do what they want, attach or detach to squads as necessary. They got a mix of their own uniforms and ranks and gear, mixed with stuff necessary in their posted regiments. Commissars might grab a gas mask or nose plugs or a chameleoline cloak. In their doctrine, they need to be able to do the job of any regimantal trooper they advise. That might include practice and familarity with regimental gear and doctrine.
Interesting about the commissar is that commissars are not allowed from the same culture as the regiment that are apart of. Which is the great detail here.
I love the weight they gave to the Lucius no.98 Pattern Pattern Las Gun las bolt. It is a much harder hit then the normal bolt, but at the cost as not having a full auto mode and less bolts per las pack.
Adding a little bit more context here. The DeathKorps of Krieg are commonly depicted in shovels because they're experts in trench AND subterranean warefare. The civil war on krieg didn't end after the loyalists launched their nuclear strike nor was it quick. The traitor krieg executed their rebellion perfectly and therefore routed like 90% of the loyalists forces in short order, this is why the nukes were launched. Help wasn't coming, they were vastly outnumbered, and frankly out of options. The war lasted for 500 fucking years after the nuke strikes. Now I mentioned subterranean warefare, krieg guardsmem had to learn to fight under ground because if they surfaced they'd be cooked by radiation. However, sometimes charges on the surface were unavoidable and a desperate battle of attrition took place over pieces of radiated strips of land. That's why they have such a dire outlook and stoic perspective because those who partook in the surface waves were almost guaranteed dead men which reinforced their trench warefare experience. For a more in depth video I recommend Arch Warhammer who made an introduction video on krieg at the beginning of his Siege of Vrax series.
"Gun on a wall" is called Chekhov's gun (Chekhov's rifle, Russian: Чеховское ружьё) is a dramatic principle that states that every element in a story must be necessary, and irrelevant elements should be removed. Elements should not appear to make "false promises" by never coming into play. The statement is recorded in letters by Anton Chekhov several times.
Thanks for reacting to my video, and making such a detailed breakdown! It's always nice to see another perspective on my work, I appreciate it!
To answer your question, I'm not a vet, I am just someone that does a bit of research here and there about various stuff, including military history. There are some things I got some things wrong in the video, such as the Leman Russ tank advancing unsupported and the trenchlines being quite straight instead of jagged, but still thank you very much for your praise!
Just to answer your question
Krieg = War in german
(I am German btw)
Is this taking place during the siege of vraks i just wanted to ask cause these heretics look exactly like the vraksians
You did a wonderful job animating how I think a Lucious Patton Lazgun would sound like and how I imagine they would feel like as well.
Too be fair, a leman Russ advancing alone is pretty common in 40k
as i see it, the leman russ scene,while not being entirely accurate,serves as backgroud setup.
a soldier has a tank that rolls and waltz right over his head, he doesn't moves because that's just thursday for him.
(cultist blind fires over sandbags)
Krieger: "Silly Chaos, suppressing fire only works if I care about dying."
Oh damn....😳
Lol
That's a good point
well it can still hit.
my life for your amunition, lets see who will out of supply first :D
This morning: “I know essentially nothing about warhammer 40k”
After going down a UA-cam rabbit hole all day: “HERETIC! INNOCENCE PROVES NOTHING”
Ah Inquisitor what brings you to our humble battalion?
Lol
That’s sorta how my knowledge started if I’m honest.
Also I recommend checking out Arch for warhammer lore if you want more.
@@RedFeralWolf sweet. I just watched a Bricky video yesterday explaining the Imperium of Man and now I am kind of obsessed with the universe haha
@@RedFeralWolf I'll second this. You should check out his Siege of Vraks. It's a seminal work on a minor war and he's currently doing the Badab War which is Space Marine focussed. He does a lot of in depth lore videos and if you want to dip your feet into Warhammer Fantasy Battles, he does videos on that too.
"A plea of innocence is guilty of wasting my time. Guilty"-Inquisitor Lord Fyodor Karamazov
"What are they going to do, use hand signals to call in artillery strikes?" *Gestures vaguely at Sisters of Silence*
Well, Yes and no
They had sisters in training operate as liaison officers when it was needed
And before someone says I know it was a joke, my reply is for those who saw this and go "how did that work actually?"
Do it Tanith style, tap your mic. Twice.
@@bengrogan9710 Yeah, I believe the Sisters of Silence have their neophytes follow around their officers to translate, as the neophytes have not taken the Oath of Tranquility yet, but were already taught several sign/spoken languages.
Sister of Silence: *angrily gestures "what did you just say about my chest?!*
@@GhostBear3067 rip guardsmen
The whole combat shovel thing isn't just a meme, because German Strumtroopen of WW1 used trenching tools with a bladed and serrated edge, the original idea was to use it as an improvised axe or rope cutting device, but people quickly found out that it made an excellent CQC weapon because you were always carrying it, it was long enough to have more reach than a knife or other weapons like it, it was wide enough to block an incoming attack, and it was light enough you maneuver quickly, while still being heavy enough to do some serious damage if you hit someone with it
Some of the "trench" weapons even look like straight up medieval weapons.
It's weird.
@@lucascoval828 Like a fucking mace, other weapons were improvised from what could be found like sharpened and bent nails and whatever a soldier may get their hands on.
Sturmtruppen
Many countries still teach their soldiers to sharpen their entrenchment shovels to this day.
its not just the germans of ww 1, its continued today... the US green berets have a particular fondness for weaponizing their e-tools, as does the US military in general throughout the years.. and im pretty sure its a reoccurring thing in other armed forces...
Said survivor being the only living member of a *messenger* squad makes it more Krieg in some way.
Standard officer: "We need a plan of attack."
Kriegsman: "I have a plan. Attack."
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH(CLAN,CLANG)!!!!!!!!!
The Krieg variant of the Lasegun is also modified to improve damage at the cost of it only being semiautomatic.
@Matsudo Ambition Nope, that's a whole different bag of worms all together.
@Matsudo Ambition Standard ones - A Cadian pattern rifle gets 100 shots on standard, firing at the same strength as a Lucius Pattern they can get 25 shots but would burn out their barrel's lenses in around 15.
Essentially the Lucius pattern is a Reinforced Marksman's Longlas
@Matsudo Ambition Standart krieger: lucius pattern lasgun, semi auto hard hitter.
Grenadiers: Lucius H pattern. Full auto, No bayonet log (cause the thing would just melt the bayonet) and unstable to a degree (if you try to hit somebody with it. The thing is likely to blow up)
@Matsudo Ambition Hellguns are lasguns that are connected to a backpack type power pack which allows them to shoot at a ludicrous rate.
@@alephkasai9384 kind of like what baze malbus from star wars Rouge one carries?
There is a fan canon that when Korpsman die, they go to a world in the warp called Terranis. It’s not heaven, just a normal peaceful world. They don’t stay there, they reincarnate when they’re needed by the Emperor again.
Being a vet and a warhammer fan. This is the best breakdown of these videos. Please do more!
Will comply.
@@Counterpoints being a geek for this sort of stuff and a Warhammer fan, I concur as well.
Wait just curious what cultist are these are they nurgle?
@@Counterpoints me"ohhhh... the dead black eyed darkness soulsless fiends" Conner"yeahhhhhhh...the cold blooded....and slightly psychopath and suicidal....killers of Krieg"
@@Counterpoints oh it's 'he who dares..wins'...Conner..just letting you know...check only fools and horses sometime ok..sitcom from England from the BBC
That whistle though; That is a very important peice of history as whistles like those where used to signal troups to go over the top. Its a chilling sound if you know what it meant.
Just like a Krieger to purposefully overcharge a plasma gun
Funny enough, a guy named SODAZ also made a Death Korps of Krieg video this week that is made remarkably well. You should check it out if you haven't already seen it!
The saying is “He who dares, wins”
fun little thing i noticed both combatant's wait for the other to ready there weapon and the krieg actually nods to his opponent that they start and i see the sense of respect for the other in those actions...
No, silly.
*Heretics deserve no respect.*
@@11Survivor he who doesn't shy away from glorious melee combat has the respect of the God-Emperor himself, shame some would follow Khorne instead of following the path of Mankind
It’s very refreshing to see someone who already knows the lore and backstory of 40K and not just getting into it or completely new. I also really appreciate the acknowledgment of things like the present arms stance and that 38,000 years of tradition can change what we recognize. Fantastic video
This setting is probably is the siege of Vraks. So for the longest time the defenders weren't chaos cultists, rather mislead followers of the cardinal, who may or may not have knowingly doomed them all to chaos anyway. But that's why there isn't much of the typical chaos iconography
From their uniforms to their suicidal tactics, Krieg really are the perfect shock trooper against those who thrive on fear. To quote Willy Wonka, "You win, NOTHING! You get, NOTHING! GOOD DAY, SIR!"
😂😂😂 perfect use of that quote.
The guard holding his gun up is probably because they're in a trench. You don't want your gun sticking in anyone's way in such a confined space or worse, pointing at someone. Keeping it up is best and also means reacting quicker to enemies over the trench edge if they somehow manage to surprise you.
7:46 "Oh you didnt die with your company? Fall into formation, youll be dying with us"
3:40 That's Chekov right? Also I never realized that heretic threw his rifle as a distraction.
Yes, thank you!
Yeah. Chekov was a russian author and playwright and he once said that if you mention a gun on the wall in the first act, it should go off by the third. Basically, the idea is that everything an author describes should be important to the story in some way, otherwise, the author is wasting time on it.
Death Korps of Krieg are one of the few Imperial guard regiments that actually give me historically accurate vibes. Don't get me wrong, I love the "ramboish" appeal of the Catachan regiment and the pompuos uniforms of the Mordians, but Kriegsmen are SO well into ww1 setting and tactics, that in my opinion stick perfectly with 40k environment. Great review!
I'm more for the Cadians, as they remind me a bit of Canadian troops. *VERY* good at keeping their shit together, even when shit hits the fan.
From what I understand, Krieg lasrifles are different from the regular pattern not just in the external design, but also that they don't have automatic settings but are semi-automatic only.
Death Korps are basically the clone troopers from Star Wars and the Sontarans from Doctor Who: Vat-grown, so basically off a production line with no doubt many looking exactly like the other underneath their gasmasks with a fatalistic drive to die in combat in the name of the Emperor.
The head nod before fighting eye to eye is cool.
Just like, this is gonna hurt and one of us is not gonna walk away. Even heavily trained and indoctrinated, that little of humanity is neat touch.
The Krieg gasmask nod.
Yes brother were going to fight and die Together for the God Emperor's Glory
Fairly sure that's not an autocannon but a twin-linked heavy stubber.
It is
Poor man's AutoGu
@@Callsign_Bear poor mans heavy bolter, yeah. Autogun's a similar downgrade from a HMG to an assault rifle IRL
@@Destroyer_V0 Yea, makes sense
Could be either, the heavy stubber on top of my Shadowsword is belt-fed but on my chimera it's magazine fed for some reason or another
Not everyone acknowledges the fact, that tactics and procedure would change over time. Makes me appreciate this reaction even more.
One of my favorite details that I dont think anyone touched on is how well constructed the krieg trenches are compared to the chaos trenches
Stubbers and autoguns are different things. A stubber is basically a modern firearm, though probably far more advanced in materials and engineering. An autogun is basically your general sci-fi kinetic weapon and ranges from caseless ammo to gravity-propelled projectiles and anything in-between. There are also ones that used casings but even those share the power of other autoguns. The main difference so far as the lore is concerned is that a stubber smaller than a heavy stubber or, up close, a handcannon is incapable of penetrating flak armor at any range and from any angle. An autogun shot rips right through flak armor easily. Y'know, unless it's one of those "flak" armors with plates of ceramite or plasteel in them.
don't assault cannons fall under the autogun classification?
The funniest fact is that the Commisar Just stand ther and ask him self why im here
nah, he knows exactly why he's there. to prevent the kriegsmen from charging *too* recklessly XD
@@olivinator problem is he wont survive that XD
@@olivinator you forgot keep them from freaking out any other regiments that may be fighting alongside them since every other type of guard regiment is creeped out by them
"Sir! The enemies have a Titan!"
"Outstanding. FIX BAYONETS!!!"
The lasguns didn't come in? Well, we have shovels, don't we?
It’s always a good day when a Kriegsman can get a shovel kill
Krieg officers are also de-individualized. They don't like to think of themselves any more as individuals than the units they command.
Yes "Krieg" is the German word for War. Greetings from Germany, I enjoyed the original video and appreciate your point of view on this!
I did notice that both the smoke grenade and the frag grenade looked identical. Which could be a problem if you want to know what kind of grenade you are throwing at the enemy (although might be beneficial for confusing or distracting the enemy). I suppose this could be overcome if there are some sort of subtle markings on the grenades denoting their type, and the kriegsmen could then put all the frags on one side of their kit and the smoke on the other side to separate them out and make it easy to tell which kind they are grabbing during the fight (if I grab a grenade from my left it's a frag, if I grab a grenade from my right it's smoke).
Also, it’s not ‘he who dares prevails.’ It’s “Who Dares, Wins.” (If we’re talking about the SAS motto.)
Have you sacrificed for the Emporer today?
I enjoy your attention to detail. As a veteran of Iraq it made me realize how many of those details I was simply dismissing as normal, rather than recognize them as something a civilian wouldn't generally conceptualize. As for the video, I love how the Kriegsman responds with his entrenching tool, snapping it out as if to say "come and get it".
Dude, I love these. I wouldn't catch half the details seeing it with my dull civi eyes. Moar tactics!
Even today one of the deadliest weapons a german soldier gets handed out is the "Klappspaten" (colapsable entrenchmenttool). If you are in close-quarters-combat with a german who has got a Klappspaten YOU WILL GET MESSED UP. ^^
Also some finnisch units are still trained to use shovels for close-quarters
Yes!
Real life parallels(?) and/or lore accuracy > Quality of the visual animation
I hear tinitus I go "mawp"
Retreat? Sounds like heresy to me
“What are they going to do use hand signals to coordinate bombardments?”
Kreigers: “laughs in sign language for 96 hours straight”
I noticed a someting in the final fight:The kriegsman nods before the fight...i think they made it a duel after the heretic figured his rifle does not work...Because the kriegsman could be sawed in half while pulling out the shovel so the heretic had some honor
it's awesome because both sides respect each other in that duel. the Kriegsman respects the heretic for allowing the moment to get his entrenching tool, and then they begin at the same time. it's beautiful!
@@airplanemaniacgaming7877 I agree guardsman...NOW BACK TO THE TRENCHES WE GO!
I am not a gamer don't know anything of this universe, came by algorythme to this video and was impressed by the artistic and visual quality of this, really amazingly done on al levels ! Grtz from Belgium.
The one that SOADAZ has done is something you should watch : [워해머,Warhammer40k]Death korps of krieg.
The charge of the Death riders is something you should see for yourself.
Next week fo sho
To make a small clarification on the bayonet stab, instead of withdrawing the blade when he twisted it, he cut the rest of the way out of the side of his neck to do even further damage
06:38 I'm pretty sure I remember hearing about similar soldiers in a different work of fiction. They went out of their way to create that air of terror and mystery, to the point they completely soundproofed part of their helmet, so their voices are inaudible and they all communicate via built-in radio. So, as far as anyone on the outside knows, they do it all without saying a word
I think it lets everyone know that, that’s the officers bunker with out marking of obvious to the enemy mabey idk lmao
That’s so the officers can ambush the foolish ennemy
so many crazy awesome details that I may not have thought twice about without the breakdown, thanks man awesome content!
Thx for reaction! I hope you’ll react to SODAZ’s new vid.
Next week!
@@Counterpoints Can’t wait you’re going to like it. I was going to suggest the same!
@@Counterpoints The new one is godly :D
Fantastic video! Would have never gotten this much of out this animation without your commentary.
love the breakdown. helps me appreciate this work more :D
If you haven't listened to them yet it would be fun to see a live reaction on you with Stringstorms 40k songs
I like the Lamentors song particularly because the lyrics also work outside of a 40K context.
Never heard of redirecting the bayonet to cut in different direction. I have to admit that my knowledge is limited, but I do know some basics and it seems to me like every country approaches bayonet combat slightly differently (WWII german was instructed to aim at ribcage, and tilt the rifle so the blade wouldn't get stuck in between the ribs, and that's pretty much it, no cutting afterwards, Czechoslovakians pre-WWII were trained to aim at stomach and once the hit is made, proceed to pull upwards, since the bayonet was sharpened on the upper side this would cause a lot of damage, and I'm pretty sure that there were other approaches depending on the design of the bayonet).
Today I went down the Krieg Warhammer rabbit hole.
ua-cam.com/video/1mNX1pPXrTg/v-deo.html this is another Krieg video I think is from the same guy
Welcome brother gasmask to the left lucius pattern 98 on your right and the will to die for the God Emperor right in front of you
Fun fact about Krieg Guardsmen:
They begin bayonet training before they can read or write.
IF they ever learn to read and write.
why would the average kriegsman even need to learn how to read or write? they just need to learn how to fight, follow orders, and not care about dying in the cause of the emperor. The officers are the ones that need to be taught how to read and write. heck, most imperial citizens do not know how to read or write anymore if I remember right. they are only taught as much as they need to know to do their jobs and no more.
@@Rembanspellsong To answer your question, it's beneficial for them to be able to follow sign posts and read maps. Example: a krieg squad is reporting enemy activity in a city. They can can look at the street sign post and report to HQ "hostiles at Veronica street. Request support" (or something like that). Also, imperial worlds varies from planet to planet. On some worlds, what you've said (regarding literacy) is true, but on some its not.
@@chanachon56 that's officers calling in that stuff, the average krieg guardsman is lucky to get a vox bead so he can hear the orders instead of them having to be relayed to him by the person carrying a vox box.
the subtle nod from the Krieger though it's like the universal of '' aight let's do this''
I knew next to nothing about the Death Korps other than that they were cool looking when I first watched AN's video. Now I like them, a lot. Thanks Counterpoints for enlightening this humble fan!
You're the first person I've watched to notice or comment on the rebel taking a glancing round to the helmet. And I never noticed that he threw his gun as a distraction till your video, A+ from me!
Really well done video! The animation is truly awesome.
do you get a feeling that the autogun the heretics used is somewhat inspires by a twin barreled japanese aa gun?
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Type_96_25_mm_AT/AA_Gun
i sure as hell do
100%
i mean it is a twin-linked heavy stubber, so who knows. side note autoguns are personal weapons while stubbers are crew served weapons.
just saying, that first guy who got shot would probably be getting stripped of his gear by a req officer or a medic
6:38 Stares in the direction of Sisters of Silence.
I just love how they are the only guardsmen regiments that the commisar is there just to keep them from needlessly sacrificing themselves
"And luck"
And that is why John 117 is the Master Chief Petty Officer of the Navy
Best breakdown of 40k I've heard in a long while.
16:25
Fortune favors the bold, perhaps?
Yes
Fun fact about the Kriegsmen las-gun, they’re designed to be overcharged, allowing them to deal more damage than say, the ones used by Cadians. The gun the kriegs use is actually powerful enough to punch into Space Marine Armor (sometimes) the major downside however is the number of shots available, last I checked depending on the model, it was usually only 8 to 20 shots
A small point about the voice acting is, the more I thought about it, the more the voice acting made sense. Not just for the reasons you listed, but also because, as I'm sure you know, many (if not most) in the Krieg regiments are actually children. The voice didn't sound so deep and stoic as we'd expect from a Cadian, because they aren't full-grown soldiers yet.
'Who dares, wins!' Motto of the Special Air Service
Well broken down, Marine. Please do more of these.
A detail that often gets wrong in games and media is that lasgun shots are red while in canonicly lasgun shots are blue, lasguns of heretics can come in red but is still uncommon.
The Commisars other job in the Korps is as Tactical Advisors. Yeah, they get killed by the Korpsmen, but they need to make sure they don't die too early.
21:33 Soimewhere, a tech priest is gonna be _really_ ticked off with that Kreiger.
I had a Vietnam vet as a ROTC instructor,who had multiple confirmed Etool kills.
Seeing more Krieg content kinda makes me wanna put a bayonet on my AR
Just found your channel and have to say I love how you broke everything that was important down at the right times. So you got a sub from me and thank you for your service. As a long-standing 40k lore nut I've always been an Astra Militarum fan and seeing one of my favorite Guard factions getting some attention like this from you has been an utter treat. I look forward to seeing more 40k content from you in the future!
I do have some lore breakdowns under their own playlist and also did an Astartes reaction. I’ll be doing the Sodaz Krieg video next week and then probably the Astartes 2 trailer after that.
@@Counterpoints Awesome! I'm looking forward to them then.
5:00 -- The Present Arms position might actually be because of all those shooting and war movies that picture shooters/soldiers holding weapons muzzle-up because it looks cool. It appears they are all carrying muzzle-up.
I love the ringing sound after the concussions. Soooo realistic.
Great video and would love to see more breakdowns, especially on other krieg animations like the big one by SODAZ.
what you were thinking of, with the gun on a wall, is called "chekhov's gun" named after the author Anton Chekhov
Rule one of facing a member of the death korps of krieg. Never face one with a shovel.
19:40
It wasn't a frag, its a concussion granate, krigsman don't often use frags on trenches, as well as ww1 soldiers, only frag bunkers and trench structures, to use a frag on a "trench hallway" risk accidentally hiting friendlies or compromises yourself, as its too close, and there's too little space to take cover, and corners, most often, aren't a good protection against the grenade shrapnel
great review and very informative
Btw for those who might be confused as to why he threw away the rifle since it’s still effectively a spear, it’s a pretty reasonable thing to do granted that the weapons integrity has been compromised. That chain axe just ate through 2/3rds of the weapon, so a heavy strike being parried or given with the rifle may just end up breaking it and getting the guardsman killed.
Around 4 minutes, that principle being talked about is one I like referencing all the time when talking about good structure in film and series that I watch with my partner.
I'm sure you've either looked it up or been told by now, or maybe even figured it out before the end of the video, I didn't watch that far yet, but it is Chekov's Gun.
For me, I've simplified it down to "If you have a gun, you must fire it by the end."
The key part of making the chaos lot seem more human than the kreig as well its the best detail of this whole thing
“8,000 years into the future “...
Me:...no no, my friend. 38,000 years at minimum.
I hope I said 38,000
Oh you poor sweet summer child, rebel, you can't David and Goliath you way through a fight with a Kreigsmen.
The person who created this is a Korean. So if we assume he is a dude, I say he's most likely a veteran.
1 thing missing from this is if the kriegsman threw his broken lasgun with beyonet as a spear, then break out the shovel. just a thouht.
Commissars are pretty funky, they are specifically not part of the regiment chain of command. They are attached as advisors. A regiment has at least one senior regimental commissar with junior commissars under her spread out into the companies. But they can do what they want, attach or detach to squads as necessary.
They got a mix of their own uniforms and ranks and gear, mixed with stuff necessary in their posted regiments. Commissars might grab a gas mask or nose plugs or a chameleoline cloak. In their doctrine, they need to be able to do the job of any regimantal trooper they advise. That might include practice and familarity with regimental gear and doctrine.
That is the most eloquently put I have ever heard someone talk about the “romance of war”
Dose a hand single
Artillery starts to rain down
Me: interesting
Gotta do Sodaz reaction of his version of Death Korps of Krieg! Also great video love that you know the lore!
Good break down - help to make sense of complicated subject details and get your personal views also :)
17:47 ah, a worthy opponent. Our battle will be legendary!
Interesting about the commissar is that commissars are not allowed from the same culture as the regiment that are apart of. Which is the great detail here.
I love the weight they gave to the Lucius no.98 Pattern Pattern Las Gun las bolt. It is a much harder hit then the normal bolt, but at the cost as not having a full auto mode and less bolts per las pack.
Adding a little bit more context here. The DeathKorps of Krieg are commonly depicted in shovels because they're experts in trench AND subterranean warefare. The civil war on krieg didn't end after the loyalists launched their nuclear strike nor was it quick. The traitor krieg executed their rebellion perfectly and therefore routed like 90% of the loyalists forces in short order, this is why the nukes were launched. Help wasn't coming, they were vastly outnumbered, and frankly out of options. The war lasted for 500 fucking years after the nuke strikes. Now I mentioned subterranean warefare, krieg guardsmem had to learn to fight under ground because if they surfaced they'd be cooked by radiation. However, sometimes charges on the surface were unavoidable and a desperate battle of attrition took place over pieces of radiated strips of land. That's why they have such a dire outlook and stoic perspective because those who partook in the surface waves were almost guaranteed dead men which reinforced their trench warefare experience. For a more in depth video I recommend Arch Warhammer who made an introduction video on krieg at the beginning of his Siege of Vrax series.
"Gun on a wall" is called Chekhov's gun (Chekhov's rifle, Russian: Чеховское ружьё) is a dramatic principle that states that every element in a story must be necessary, and irrelevant elements should be removed. Elements should not appear to make "false promises" by never coming into play. The statement is recorded in letters by Anton Chekhov several times.