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Bro,so sad for that one guardsman who saluted the Iron Warrior and got power clapped.
The poor guy didn't even know what he was looking at
Bro, It was like kicking a puppy who wants a scratch
It was guardsman’s reaction check. He had to duck fast.
Dude dident get power clawed. He got straight up backhanded and his neck just snapped like a twig.
thinking about it, humans in 40k have heard all kinds of stories about the angels of death, but 99% of them will go their whole lives without ever actually seeing one. this guardsman suddenly came face to face with a demigod and had no reason to assume he wasn't on the same team, since the history of the heresy has all but been forgotten by the average citizen lest they repeat the calamity.
The Iron Warrior's dismissive atheism / agnosticism of the Gods is, in fact, _exactly_ what the Emperor wanted!
In denying the God-Emperor, they inadvertently follow his _True Will_ , as it was intended all along.
*IRONY WITHIN; IRONY WITHOUT.*
I prefer the example set by Barbarous Dantioch, true strength and loyalty to one's principles even in the face of annihilation, never giving in to another's demands or betraying yourself. - Iron Within, Iron Without.
wow
Lmao Nice
More like irony within irony without
Well, in principle. However even if you deny the divinity of the ruinous powers, warp energy itself will still fuck you up. So by being forced into the Eye of Terror, and having to remain there for millennia, they have been slowly corrupted. So the irony of them actually being atheists is itself ironic because they are chaos incarnate at this point
Like a true son of Perturabo, the Iron Warrior Lord recognizes and respects hatred born from spite. That Guardswoman standing against him out of spite makes her worthy to live. They call that iron, but it's just hate. I love it.
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She had the iron within, she never kneeled, cowardice is a choice.
@@LewisB3217 yet in the end she proved to be the true weak one
@@SilverWarrior95 only because the iron warrior broke her in a way, by tricking her and betraying her Captain instead of killing her as any other legion would, all because she didn’t kneel
And the Commander showed he chose weakness through submission, he had no backbone.
The Angels have freed us from the Xenos! - Guard
Oh, I wouldn't say free. More like, under new management. - Iron warriors
"Angels serve gods, and gods are cringe." -Iron Warrior.
Megamind reference😂
Interesting that the iron lord still has attachment to the world he was from and chose to claim and fortify it instead of being the atypical chaos lord and just killing the defenders entirely and taking the survivors as slaves to work and breed new recruits
That was super interesting to me
He basically does that though?
"Follow, or you get killed." is basically "Slavery". Also, probably every Women which isn't in the Guard probably gets made to those Demon breed thingies for new Iron Warriors, if he has Gene Seed at hand.
A small warband taking a world like this with manufactories and a military unable to resist? It's like the ultimate comeup. Why kill all the slaves you've just captured or take them anywhere else?
I thought they were just traitor marines not full on chaos marines?
@@jadetrentrichards255 ^most of them are what you said, simply renegades.
I understand and agree with all the accuracy of the Iron Warriors in this animation. Perturabo dedicated his legion to the science of Warfare. It's 10 thousand years training to be as brutal and critical as possible. No wasted ammo, no wasted time. Everything is fast, coolly calculated, perfectly executed. I love seeing the Iron warriors illustrated as they really are.
BUT, that knife in Mandrak's chest... My dude, these creatures camouflage themselves in the shadow, they are one with the darkness, they are made of things even the Drukhari don't understand... HOW? WHY?
That Drukhari player needs to request a re-roll. The dice fell off the table 😂
the knife thing was the most tabletop accurate thing ever. But as for lore wise...since Iron Warriors can comparitively be called traitor ironhands, and since they dont follow the ban on technology as the Imperium does I assume that Iron Warrior had some air density/ground pressure detector built into his helmet that detected the mandrake.
@@Prophetofthe8thLegion You have a point. I remember reading Blood Gorgons a few years ago. One Chaos Lord in the book had the sensitive ability to detect life through particles in the air. Ruinous Power are built differently than traditional, and this may apply to technology.
But that stab could have been a better outcome
That kill seemed like a homage to the knife kill in astartes
@@limorapp be amazing if it was.
@@Prophetofthe8thLegion agreed we would not complain if it was !
All in all a happy ending for the guard. They avoided the utterly hellish torments of the drukhari and instead got the brutal drudgery of the iron warriors. The]is is practically the “It’s a Wonderful Life” of the 40K universe.
Too true it could have been the Death Guard they would give them the wonderful gifts of papa nurgle :)
It really is hard to beat the cruelty of the Drukhari. Even the Emperor's Children let you die eventually... As for the Guardies, life isn't gonna change all that much under the Iron Warriors
It could have been the Emperor's Children
Those Guards were also lucky that these aren't the Iron Warriors that do the Deamonculaba stuff but then again its 40k.
In a Iron warrior book the Guardsmen discovered that the food paste they where given where made of all the dead Guardsmen. The IW used their resource even in death.
When the drop pods were first descending, I said,"Wait a minute, that's not modern astartes drop pods, that looks like Great Crusade/Horus Heresy era drop pods." And when the Iron Warriors came out, that confirmed my suspicions.
Comments for the Comment God and likes for his throne!
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For me it was catching the hazard stripes on the drop pods, not played the game or read too much lore in a while but when I saw that and I recalled exactly which marine legion used them as a color scheme I was simply "Oh crap...."
They are one of the chaos factions that will show up and leave after grabbing something extremely valuable to them.
Unmutated children.
Yeah but this isn't the great crusade lol
I love how clean they keep their equipment. I'm sick of iron warriors being represented as generic chaos schmucks
I don't see anyone commenting on how absolutely pitch-perfect that Dark Eldar Archon leader was voice-acted. It had campy decorations, but was also wisely terrifying. Perfectly toned for someone who thinks it's all his little playground, until he realizes what the human's called upon to 'save' them. They called in an actual full-sized wrecking ball to defend a sand-castle.
I wished they titled it something else so they could keep the reveal of the Iron Warriors a secret. It would have been so much more impactful if after thinking that Space Marines are coming to save the day, the audience sees the IV Legion belt buckle and thinks "uh oh they done fucked up"
I indeed would have pooped my pants
yeah "Angels and Devils" or something misdirecting like that would have left a little room for pleasant surprise lol
I thought the Dreadclaw Drop Pod gave it away
Yeah I agree. Im new to 40k and have a good idea of whats going on but didn't realize there was a legion called the Iron Warriors so when they dropped down I was like "hold up now these boys dont look normal. Are those traitors????"
Called it "Weakness is a Choice" would make it less on the nose but still be true to the story
Not gonna lie, The Iron Lord was actually incredibly reasonable and fair with them, maybe even nice, and kind of had the tone as if he was trying to teach them something. I genuinely did not expect that from an Iron Warrior.
That is becouse u were blinded by prejudice created from the lies of the false emperor
Iron with in
@@titididi6039 the lies of those horrid imperial fist... Bleghh
Iron warriors are the most based chaos legion next to alpha legion.
@@shirueto748 true
Ironically, the Guard commander would have been the one to survive if it were the old Iron warriors. For he bent, but didn't break. He bent on the means by which it was achieved, but never broke from his goal to save his men, and the people under his charge. Iron bends, but does not break.
Yeah I was thinking that too
Depends. The man submitted. He took the easy way, the safe way. That is not the way of Iron. The woman stood defiant in the face of defeat, never backed down, and stared at a sure death fearlessly. THAT is the way of Iron. THAT is what it means to have iron within, and iron without. Internal resolve, and external courage.
@@andrewhinson4323 The man didn't take the easy path. Yes, he submitted, but you need to look at the reason why to say if he did so out of weakness or not. Far from the safe way, he took the path that would save his men, regardless of his belief, honor, and loyalty to the emperor. He was willing to sacrifice everything he believed in if it meant saving his men and as many of the citizens as he could. I would agree with you, if the choice he was given was just kneel and your life will be spared, but it wasn't. It was "kneel and your life, and the lives of your men will be spared". Everything the commander did, he did for the sake of the people under his charge. Throwing away everything that meant anything to him personally, in order to give the people a chance to survive. Iron bends. But it does not break. That is the way of iron. You bend to avoid breaking. The inability to bend when given fair compromise is not the old way of iron.
@@Richard_Frost I think your line of reasoning is metaphysically acceptable.
But I will still assert that you’re reading of his behavior from the perspective of both the imperial observer AND the Iron Warrior was that there is no shame in dying loyal. Quite the contrary in fact.
Notice who lived. Was it the man who knelt to save people? Or the woman who stood defiant and loyal to her cause, even though it was at odds to the Iron Warriors?
Its really very easy to save your own life while wrapping it up in the noble words of supposedly loftier goals. But when push comes to shove, do you die for your principles, or do you live in spite of them.
We know from the simple fact that the woman was not only shown mercy (actually shown mercy! By Iron Warriors!!!) but then put in a position of command, that the Iron Warriors valued self-sacrifice for loyalty and principle as the true manifestation of Iron Within. The way of Iron.
So you can say he was willing to sacrifice his honor, and all that for others, but it had the happy coincidental side effect of saving his own life and looking forward to leading people by his own words. “They will need someone to lead them.” One can just as easily imagine that in his mind swam visions of self-ascendancy under a new banner.
You can imagine none of that for the woman.
@@andrewhinson4323 Also, they both thought, that Iron Warriors are traitors and seek to hurt their people. Commander was willing to take command even under this presumtion. Meaning he would have to do it too. Guard woman was not willing to do it.
That was proof for the Iron Warrior that she will be a good leader to his people. Will not bend under pressure. And he left her command with no conditions. Meaning that she will change her presumtions about him and likely will call him if serious threat will occur again.
This is how good leaders make alliances. Based on helping their people, not exploiting them
Guardsman gets his leg blown off by stepping on a mine.
Iron Warrior: "See? You *chose* to let your leg be blown off, you *chose* weakness."
more like: oh, just because you only got one leg and are bleeding out rapidly you couldnt fulfill your battle orders? you chose to bitch over your little ouchie instead of choosing to be strong and doing a one legged bayonet charge. weakness truly is a choice
@@philip8498 Worry not, child, the Machine God is forgiving, and he will see your flesh..enlightened.
That sounds more like a commissar instead of an iron warrior.@@philip8498
Iron doesn't break, Iron bends. Iron is heavy, but repeated battle tested. The Iron warrior's armor and weapons and drop pods may be outdated, but it is still very reliable
The old guard commander bent, and Iron does not bend!
I remember hearing somewhere that the "drop pods" the iron warriors have, are actually old lost tech and are superior to what the loyalists have in the present time. To be exact they are better at boarding enemy ships.
Iron does break, though. Pretty easily. Iron is either brittle or too soft. It's not a very good metal. Just like the Iron Warriors, lol! Bunch of cry babies! Ohhh, Daddy doesn't give us enough attention. I guess I better betray my own species. Loosers. Emo loosers
@@tylerthegrimm cope corpse slave.
@@Prophetofthe8thLegion chaos slave
Bro actually held up the bargain they struck over 10,000 years ago. Came right when called. I think they’re disappointed. Like they shouldn’t have to be called for the planets people should be strong and capable. So now he has to work to bring that back.
Despite being a traitor he knew where the planet was and could have attacked at anytime but left it be for 10,000 years only showing up when it’s apparent that the Imperium wasn’t capable of defending it. Based Iron Daddy.
“my brother in the corpse emperor, we liberated this world 10,000 years ago from chaos techno psychic warlords by beating them with blunted combat knives, how tf are emo femboy elves rocking your shit?”
@@synergy8879
"You are giving humanity a bad rep"
When you think about it it starts to make sense. From the size of the citadel and the size of the raiding party there should be no way it would fall if it was designed up to IW standard as long as the defenders stand their ground. A good carpenter never blames his tools and the Iron warriors know their tools.
Iron warriors: “ WE ARE HERE TO SAVE YOU “
Guardsmen: “ it’s the iron warrior “
Iron warriors: “ FROM YOUSELVES “
Gaurdsmem: “ oh no it’s the iron warriors “
This is a reference and I applaud it!
I love seeing Dark Eldar die, in a galaxy where good people die for no reason, it's always so good to see happen first hand to people who absolutely deserve it
Actually the way they died was unjustified. They should’ve killed them very slow and painful
Absolutely
If the Emperor had a text-to-speech device, he'd wholeheartedly agree with you.
@@Antidragon-nl7by Ya damn right brother
What the dark eldar do to their victims is nothing compared to what Slaanesh will do to the dark eldar, which does bring a smile to my face.
You don't kneel after hearing "Weakness is a choice."
It was clear from the start who was GW's chosen plot-armored puppet. Couldn't have commander overshadow her.
When the dark eldar said “…. Go and see” he was slightly concerned because that’s not the confidence of a man who is scared, that’s the confidence of a man who knows they will both die
He might have a backup body though, he was an archon afterall.
@@Sara3346 Without anyone there to retrieve his body right away or a soulstone, he's toast. And even if he had a stone, it's of very little use because he'd be trapped in it, deep inside newly reinforced human territory that nobody would ever be able to steal it from.
@@andreyradchenko8200 Nah, a lot of kabalites leave spare body parts with the haemonculi as a kind of life insurance. True death is pretty rare for Archons unless the warp is involved or other dark eldar sabotage the revival process.
@@TheShaneTrain93 I don't think transplants or any sort of surgery could help after that much trauma.
@@andreyradchenko8200 The state of the body left in the battlefield doesn't matter. That can be left behind while they regrow them back in Commorragh from the body part they left with the Haemonculi.
The Iron Warriors are probably the only chaos legion that I enjoy and like, mostly cuz they are the most human and normal among the chaos legions, they don't need or want none of that chaotic shit. I may have to paint some now.
They regularly build and use daemon engines. While *most* don’t worship the forces of chaos they definitely consort with them. They are responsible for some of the cruelest atrocities any of the chaos legions and they do it out of nothing but spite. I would argue that they are the most evil in character of any of the legions.
The Alpha Legion are the normal ones, nobody even knows what they believe!
@@humantwist-offcap9514 Fair enough, also Alpha Legion are loyalists right?... right?
Based
@@humantwist-offcap9514 not even the Alpha Legion knows what they believe in.
Especially how they create new Marines.
Like, you know, those Warp + R rated stuff you can't even describe directly on YT because otherwise your Comment would get automatically deleted.
Completly normal. Completly human.
I think the story is actually pretty good. We get at last some dark eldar and iron warriors all in one.
I would have liked the story even if it was a stand alone Drukhari one. Iron Warriors are just the icing on the cake.
The most interesting part about this is that the whole duration of the skirmish has captured the grim dark nature of Warhammer and the extreme uncertainty of it all plus the best part is that they have accurately shown how rare it is to see a loyalist chapter or a space marine all together and the cherry on top of it all that the humanrace is so scattered that some of them don't even know about the horus heresy.
The fog of time and war was really good in this one
In the last scene, the guardswoman has removed the aquila from her helmet - showing where her allegiance now lies.
Iron within,Iron Without
That planet is in real space so it’s all fun and heresy until Robute or The Lion show up to remind the Iron Warriors who won the heresy.
@@Demos_Jeff so few good centuries, eh?
@@Demos_Jeff Plot armor?
I don't get it, doesn't that mean she submitted?
24:15 “ You shall never know the release of death. “
Neither will the Archon as his soul will go to Slannesh.
He’s probably got a finger hanging out with some haemonculus he can regenerate from.
@@Counterpoints the hamoncoulis has to go to that place first to get his body and regenerate
@@TheStatisfiedOne unless a stash of fingers previously cut are already in his mansion.
It's strange why dark eldars put big efforts for bring bodys in good states of conservation after a battle but no apply this method, I think it work only for soldiers who die recently with no irreversibles dammages
Personnaly I think even if a dark eldar regenerate, his soul go to Slaanesh, the clone is just an another dark eldar but with the memories of the fallen dark eldar
Actually, I read that as the commander giving his last orders to the guardswoman. They both knew what would happen and he took the hit for the both of them.
You can say that he checked out of the game, leaving her to bear the burden of command, but eh.
it is no for me to live there.
Warhammer plus is kind of all over the place, but the potential shines through for it to be something incredible now and then. I hope GW are wise enough to stick with it and ramp up the amount and the quality of animation. More than anything, when the Warhammer Cinematic Universe comes to fruition they need to be ready with WH+ because it will certainly see a huge jump in new subscribers.
True! People are frustrated because there is good stuff here but it’s just not quite where it needs to be
I would love for GW to adopt the Castlevania netflix series art style animation! The carnage would look epic 😂🍻
@Raffy R4G3 I would say plague song is the closest example to this and that trailer for the warhammer age of sigmar series.
@@raffyr4g327 that's actually a great idea!
Is the US out of network access? Do I need a VPN? Cus I subscribed but still can’t watch
It is strange to hear that many consider the commander's act a weakness.
To give up one's own pride in order to protect one's subordinates is true strength. This is what Perturabo was never able to comprehend.
Good to see a reasonable conversion to chaos. It's always some mind virus or dark magic that drives people into the dark gods and it gets boring.
Seeing everyone you've ever believed in fail you and then the strength of the Iron warriors would be a hard thing to deny.
Iron within iron without.
Monsters which is a fantasy hammer and bolter episode was also pretty revelatory
If the title hadn't been obvious enough, the sudden apperance of DREADCLAW drop pods sold it to me for sure.
Kudos to the power mace, a simple, brutal weapon used even in modern warfare for trench raids.
I really like the lighting and animation, but it lacks one thing to make it truely outstanding, it's a tad too floaty for my liking, it lacks weight, heft.
I blame the shaky cam during the fight scene with the Archon, ruins otherwise solid animation and makes it harder to follow the movements.
14:40 - Love how during this period of sustained heavy enemy fire and troops infiltrating their lines that the two characters just take a moment to stand out in the open behind the sandbags and stare into the sky for like 45 seconds but because of the Drukhari's incredibly polite and courteous etiquette among their respect for the "Mon-keigh" neither of the two main characters get killed! Man those Drukhari are alllllllright! 😃👌😉👍
Seriously though, I'm soo happy to see the improvements happening with their production, not just the quality but as a whole, it's been a LONG time since I've been as hyped to see a Space Marine, let alone a Terminator! 😍
The Dark Eldar were clearly demonstrating chivalry to the fellow main characters.
Maybe the Druiks were looking up too thinking "shiiiiiit"
The Dark Elder were probably under orders to leave those two alone since their Archon wanted to use/mock/torture/coerce them personally.
or you know what would you shoot first the thing shooting back at you or the thing not shooting you
I had a feeling when he asked them to kneel it was a test
I think I would have knelt because I would have wanted to serve
I mean, dude said it "weakness is a CHOICE" "now kneel" he basically told them. Of course not an easy deciin the moment, but that makes the 'test' more pure, right?
I mean you would have to have balls of steel or... iron... heh... to not kneel in front of an astartes
As a dark eldar player I loved the attention the dark kin get in this: I dont mind that they get beaten, A dark eldar raid hit by a suprirse astartes invasion is most likely going to crumble, they prefer a meticulously planned operation with no unexpected resistance.
A Dark Eldar optimist? That is very refreshing. And credit where credit is due, Dark Eldar playstyles require skill.
How were they hit by surprise? They have a void fleet in orbit that should've seen the Iron Warriors (who aren't subtle voidsmen in the least and barely edge out Orks in stealth) coming as soon as they made it into the system and contacted the Archon about it, even if they hadn't engaged the space marines in the void, which they, to be honest, could have as Dark Eldar have a significant upper hand against both Astartes and Chaos fleets in terms of composition and tactics.
The problem with Iron Within isn't that the Dark Eldar lost, the problem is that they behaved absolutely *nothing* like Dark Eldar should nor used the tools they were just shown to have for seemingly no reason other than making the humans look good in comparison. It's writing someone as competent by making all opposition incompetent to make up for your own inability in setting up a believable conflict.
@@leonardomarquesbellini Watching a basic bitch Iron Warrior kill a Mandrake is made me roll my eyes. Ah yes, the literal shadow Daemon just keels over while an iron Warrior takes a knife to the throat and is fine.
@@grimnir8872 people just need to take it out of their heads the idea that space marines are demi-gods of war and that nothing can stand up to them.
Yes, I absolutely love too how they just lined up to be slaughtered without firing back even once, lol. Losing is one thing, The Drukhari were absolutel butt fucked in this for no good reason other than to suck Space Marine cock.
I honestly don't get how people don't get bored of this same shit constantly.
There is no struggle, no tension, there is not even a HINT of danger for the Muhreens. It is so fucking boring and badly written, seriously.
You can see contempt of the iron warriors when they look upon the weaklings whom inherited the empire that the iron warriors sacrificed so much to build.
A little detail I loved was with the Mandrakes. They didn't have a dramatic appearance out of a puff of shadow or darkness. They just transition perspective from one side of a character like the astropath to the other and it's just standing there behind them. I wand a WarhammerTV episode structured as a horror movie featuring Mandrakes, maybe even Keradruagh, the most legendary of the Mandrakes.
The way the Mandrake died felt terrible though. Just being killed so lazily by a melee blow, isn't even remotely similar to how I've seen them portrayed in the lore. Made it seem like the SM was just killing on old man, instead of something that can go toe-to-toe with SMs.
Most mandrake hunt dark Eldar or everything that they get. If one of them works with an Exarch he is most likely one of the weaker ones
@@bennai2 Not quite. Mandrakes often lend their services out to Archons. Their realm Ailindrach (spelling) is a realm of shadows and they require souls from realspace as well. Their price is just more "exotic" than most other factions. They can ask for something like a heartbeat, a true name, tears of a maiden or something like that.
The Decapitator
The transition was so smooth I thought there were several of the things. I had to rewatch to realize that there was only one.
7:52 the governor has his off hand behind his back like a duellist, good attention to detail.
reminds me of that short where Alpha Legion saved some Guardsmen from Tyranids.
"The Emperor protects." said the saved Guardsmen. The angel in the blue and gold armor responded "The Emperor Protects."
Lord Wolf Rho talks about it. Nice way to recruit guardsmen into the ranks.
The moment he knelt and she did not I knew exactly who was dead.
Same
It doesn’t explain why she’s working for the IW in the very next scene.
That’s a strange way to express not submitting to someone.
@@xenoblad yeah, that was plain stupid.
@@xenoblad try to imagine logic working in this sense
Serve me as a leader to save your people
Or get your fucking head rip off.
@@Shadow90Cvijetinwell it’s either living or death. Also the people need a human leader anyway
The Chaos Lord: You’re my friend now we’re having soft tacos later!
Guardswoman:
Iron Warriors live up to their name. They are cold, fearless, and yes while traitor technically, they bow to no gods, not tolerate weakness. "Weakness is a Choice" what he means is pretty straightforward. Submission is death, weakness, defeat. Iron doesn't bow, it bends, Iron doesn't weaken, its forged in strength within fire, Iron is Eternal. The commander sealed his fate the moment he choose to bend the knee to him. The Captian lives because she was prepared to fight even against impossible odds, thus she was spared.
Killing the commander just because he abided to the command of kneeling wasn't wise. He didn't know whether he was really weak or still a valuable asset because of his knowledge or skills (and in fact he was). One could also reason that his will to submit wasn't for fear of his life but out of apprehension for the people, so he surrendered his freedom for the good of his fellows, which isn't a sign of weakness. There was no need to kill him. At most, he could have been exiled. Social darwinism, or better social spencerism, which is basically what is carried on by the Iron Warriors under their ideology, isn't reasonable nor fair, because it leads to faults due to the lack of diversity and flexibility. What doesn't bend might break (you too said that "iron doesn't bow, it bends", which is a tautology, and is in contradiction with "the commander choose to bend").
And on the other hand, there was no guarantee that the guardswoman would have joined their ranks, she could have tried to resist with force leading to her death in a fight, or she could pretend to enter their ranks just to plot anything to ruin the new power she despise or simply flee at the first opportunity, which is a vulnerability.
She was the one who broke. She didn't remain defiant because in the end she was serving the Iron Warriors.
@@meirengrisailes8103 And in submitting, he's giving up his troops to something worse. Now imagine if this wasn't the IV legion and it was the III legion, he would've set them up for a fate way worse than death. He sold hard. Knowledge or skills can be taught and passed down ( humanity's cheat code), his death didn't matter at all. The Iron warriors made the right choice in aligning with their goals. Its pretty reasonable and efficient, there's no need for diversity in philosophy. Either your troops break and wave the white flag or they fight and die despite insurmountable odds which is what the IW wanted.
The music during the fight in the Throne room and the Archons voice acting was totally on point.
love that the guards woman dont have the skull and wings on her helmet in the last scene.
She's a traitorous Guardsman for sure.
Of course the strong woman theme still permeates GW.
@@idrathergetaidsthangetwoke9145 If aids is worth more then being "Woke' then your life most be very Fragile.
Or that she has a yellow stripe
@@mordredpendragon1235 so she did submit after all?
Me: "We are being pushed back! Blessed Emperor, aid us!"
**Drop pods fall into view**
Me: "Blessed Emperor! His Angels have arri-"
Guardsman: "It's the Iron Warriors!"
Me: "Well fuck.... I request the Emperor's Mercy."
Iron Warrior: "Granted."
I really love how the weapons are depicted in this. Bolters are not little submachine guns that go pew pew... Imagine a Mk19 grenade launcher, but handheld, and with more substantial recoil. Enough to dislocate your shoulder easily. Even with their battle armor and enhanced physiology they keep a low rate of fire and carefully place their shots
XM-25 or Inkuzi PAWS are closet analogue.
So were the Iron Warriors just like passing nearby when they picked up that distress call and were just like "Meh. Why not?"
I imagine that something like this is a frequent enough way on how chaos space marines decide what planets to invade. Just cruising through space and pickup a random S.O.S from nearby Imperial planet and then "answer it"
The original lord was from the planet and they might need new recruits. If it’s remote enough from the imperium they could take it over and no one would notice for a few hundred years.
@@Counterpoints But how long does this take place after the Horus Heresy? Unless the guy was actively staying near and keeping track of the planet, you'd think that over 10,000 years of silence from that world that Iron Warriors would have just moved on to more relevant worlds and battles.
@@Roark787 we literally don’t know because the universe has been largely stagnant since the scouring
They also probably wouldn't have done anything at all under normal circumstances and let the drukari have their tithe. But the distress signal probably caught the attention of the terminator lord because it was his home world
He was chilling in his warship at the Emprah knows where when the psychic reached him. Home planet calling!
Into the inmaterium, outta the inmaterium, drop in the pods, boys. Done it a million times!
One thing that irks me is that it’s a one shot. They should’ve done a minimum part two called Iron Without where the imperium tries to retake the world or the Dark Elsar want round 2 pissed that they were humiliated.
Drukhari aren't really honourable fighters. If they stay true to their lore they will avoid this planet like slaaneshs bedroom.
@@Ahriman_362 yes however Drukhari are very prideful and petty and cut throat. The Archon of this Kabal might see this as a personal insult or maybe those in his court might see this loss and think the Archon is weak after a negative quota and that might put pressure on Archon
The archon died in that throne room. And he probably didn't tell anyone where his little raid went.
@@DeHerg remember for Dark Eldar specifically Archons and homunculi they can be brought back from those pain coffins. So chances that Archon woke up back in Commoragh
I love the OST that plays upon the drop assault of the iron warriors.... so good
notice in the final scene of the close up of the female Sargent as she turns to the sun, her helmets insignia has been removed, most likely by herself to show who she is now loyal to.
Sure, but giving loyalty to a faction is a strange way of not submitting to them.
I think the Iron Warriors simply would not suffer the sight of imperial markings on the equipment of their serfs. Her spirit may have been broken somewhat and that could be why she is compliant at least.
When I saw the Dreadclaws, I knew something was fuckey. Love me some Iron Warriors. And I could watch their shield wall movements all day.
Sodaz did so much better a job with astartes movement.
I remember when the original plan for the vid was Pre-heresy Iron Warriors helping Solar Auxuli(Pre heresy Guard, since I can't spell the name) against Drukhari. Kinda wanted to see Pre-heresy version, but this is great too.
Me too I hope they keep going with this narrative or a different one in the same art style, and if they work on the fluidity it will be really good
@Turtle head , the guys you think about are Solar Auxilla , the best of imperial army
Drukhari didn't exist at that point?
@@ericart Vulkan’s main planet was periodically raided by Dark Eldar when he was still there. They existed at the start of the Great Crusade.
@@ericart Drukhari have existed since the fall of the Eldar, which occurred near the beginning of humanity's Age of Strife.
I really enjoyed this. The animation of the iron warriors I can get over. Not going to lie I would much rather prefer the animation style of plague song... that aside I thought it was written to perfection to the lore, ie the dark elder, not all imperials knowing about the traitor legions.
I do have 2 criticisms.
1. The bolter sounds don't have enough umph or thundering sounds for me.
2. I wish they kept the original storyline. As this was meant to originally been about loyal iron warriors. But GW insisted they were turned to traitors.
Other than that I loved it.
I totally agree with the bolter sound affect. Very underwhelming for a weapon that's literally an assault rifle that shoots rockets.
@@Roark787 no loud cracks from the lasguns either. That’s my favorite sound is the full automatic crack sound a lasgun gives off
Theoretically, the Traitor Iron Warriors could still be secretly Loyalists - just massive hardass Loyalists, who can't stand weakness and therefore butcher anyone they deem weak, to ensure that only the strongest of the Imperials survive, breed the hardiest of the hardiest, get the best civilian laborers/administrators etc., the best soldiers, the best Astartes candidates etc.
Ultimately to make the Imperium of Man strong enough to withstand everything the grimdark universe throws at it. At least in theory.
Them presenting themselves as Traitors could just be one of their tests/justifications to weed out the chaff - essentially to see who is strong enough to not straight up give up, as soon as they're presented with their "salvation-at-the-last-minute" turning out to be anything but.
@Typanoid true, but I've heard from various sources that one of the agreements GW wanted with the animator was that the Iron Warriors had to be fully traitor, so pretty much the whole story had to be re written so I don't see them being secret loyalists. Would be nice. Again, I don't know exactly how much of what my sources said is true. Other than the iron warriors, they were meant to be loyalists, and it set in the hours heresy. As the animator originally announced.
Her Subordinates did not fail her, they were conscripts and they either fought or died in the fighting line. Those who you never saw on screen deserting their positions, they failed her.
I mean if they were more competent defenders then they wouldn’t have needed to call on the angels and if they didn’t call on them they wouldn’t be enslaved
The overtbsub-text here and in the horrid blood angels series is: men are weak... Women are infallible. I'm surprised this is left uncommented.
@@idrathergetaidsthangetwoke9145 I think that's your interpretation, man. I didn't get that from this.
@@idrathergetaidsthangetwoke9145 true, and it's pretty obvious to see.
@@idrathergetaidsthangetwoke9145 Bruh iron warriors are men and they enslaved her
I like how the Archon’s demeanor makes a complete 180degree change in a split second, from casually and languidly victorious to utterly furious and fearful, as soon as he hears that the Iron Warriors have arrived. In any human character that would simply be bad writing, but the Eldar species is known for both their vast capacity for emotional extremes and their fickle, capricious nature. They can react to situations much more quickly than humans and have the knowledge and ability to comprehend those situations much more fully than humans. What we would call an overly theatrical, dramatic, or histrionic personality in a human is probably considered taciturn or stoic in an Eldar, especially a Dark Eldar.
I love the part where the iron warriors move in a wall formation, it's so badass. But the camera move too much during the fight
Reminder that as far as the Traitor Legions are concerned, the Iron Warriors are the closest to their Imperial roots, and still hate Xenos with a passion, believing humanity to be the superior races (and themselves superior on top of that, of course). A similar situation happened in Liberation Day when a band of Iron Warriors answered a distress beacon from a space hulk overrun by Orks (admittedly, they slaughtered or enslaved the humans after they were done with the Orks, but it's the principal of the matter!), and they hate Xenos so much that during the War of the Beast they were even willing to team up with the *Imperial Fists.*
Your breakdowns are super helpful. I loved the addition of the images of the Dark Eldar as well. I’m newish to WH40k, so I appreciate the lore drops.
I live to serve, 07
What i like the most of this short movie is the way they catch the terminator figure: towering, intimidating, massive and relentless. The armor sounds heavy like it should be, especially when he crushed the archon's head under his foot, and the power fist hit hard like a brakeless truck. When he jumped out of the drop pod and took a look around, you could even feel what he could have thought "let's tear some puny xeno's ass apart with true iron". Or when he shooted at the archon wich was about to strike the guardswoman, he was like: "look at me, pick someone of your own skill".
I love how the Warhammer animations truly capture the complete efficiency Space Marines have when it comes to combat. They never hesitate, they don't care for dialogue, and whatever they do never seems to be drawn out longer than I should be which is what most adaptations suffer from doing the most.
The only Drukhari I seem to remember having any truck with the god Khaine were the Incubi, the rest only inflict pain to stave off Slaanesh or for its own sake, not in worship of any god so much as their own dark muses
I’m confused. She refused to submit in the end, and then is working for the IW in the end?
Did the IW leave and return the planet to the imperium because they just wanted the planet to have a tough leader?
Did the IW just cut the planet off from the Imperium, but left them to their own devices?
It’s so unclear to me why it’s heavily implied that she became an enforcer for the very group she said she wouldn’t submit to.
no the Iron Warriors have the planet. they didnt kill her because she was defiant and showed strength while he bended the knee instantly to the new subjugators when they showed up.
This would have been a recruiting world for the iron warriors pre heresy. Which is how they are tied to it.
And they came back when beckoned because in their eyes the guard forces were doing such a poor job of protecting their planet that they do not deserve to have it anymore.
Thats my take anyway
I find it funny how the Terminator's Tusk clips through his shoulder for a split second at 22:24.
25:45 beautifull shot... The Drukari knows he is doomed at this point...the contrasting mass of the the two warriors is great...love this scene...
18:23 Ain’t no way that dude just gave this man the iron pimp slap
You can see she ditched the emperor at the end when you look at her helmet it no longer has the logo of imperial legion on the front anymore.
17:27-18:03 I'm getting some Roman-Legion-against-European-tribe vibes with how the Iron Warriors were basically just a murdering wall of metal against the Drukhari.
Good to see the dark eldar get abit of screen time
There is zero question that the guardswoman has renounced the Emperor: in the last scene when she turns around, the Aquila has been removed from the front of her helmet.
"Fuck this shit I'm ouuuuuuut!" It looks like.
Well of course.... Since she's hard AF and the men all feeble. Just like GW execs.
@@idrathergetaidsthangetwoke9145 yeah.. that was kinda weird and i saw it coming a mile away. the captain didnt execute the traitor, he didnt command his men during the battle, and then he kneeled at the end. i get that some leaders suck but in 40k i feel like most captains get their ranks because they're competent at their jobs, not cowards who don't know how war works
yup, I knew the moment when he said "Weakness is a choice, kneel" that it was the opposite of what they wanted to see, real strength and not kneeling to show weakness. I was hoping the commander at least fought back but seeing some of the comments beforehand already set his fate.
Animation stiffness? yes. Good story though? YES. Have a new found interest in the iron warriors now
07
Sodaz
He was right. Weakness IS a choice. It's a line that hit me where I live. Strength is a choice too. I know that one personally.
I was born prematurely and had respiratory issues as a result & a hefty chunk of my childhood was spent in oxygen tents in a hospital. I didn't give up and worked to strengthen my lungs. I lived. Hit by car. I lived. Fell off a cliff while free climbing. I lived. Pushed down a flight of stairs and broke my neck. I lived. Cancer hit, twice, and I could have given up, been a victim. I chose otherwise. The universe has been trying to kill me since the day I was born. It has failed every time. I chose not to be weak, not to be a victim. I chose to be strong. Physically, I'm an old woman now, but I still live.
Awesome, thank you for sharing 07.
A great story of triumph. When 'the time' finally comes, you'll rest well knowing it only came when you allowed it to. Utterly indomitable. Cheers to you.
the definition of Iron within Iron without
"Might controls everything. And without strength, you cannot protect anything, let alone yourself." -Vergil, Devil May Cry 3
i find it purely cold to phrase it that way, but fundamentally, is correct.
however, recent modifications to that line appeared in other media, such as Saitama's "who decides what your limit is? if you have time to break down, then you have time to move forward" and "even though they are weak now, no one can tell where their limit is"
They say weakness. But what they mean is surrender.
Watching this again, I feel like the Terminator armor moves pretty much exactly as I expected it would move.
It feels appropriately slow and weighty but surprisingly quick when needed such as swinging that power fist.
Very much the walking tank it should be as described most of the time in books and lore.
as much as they can be cruel, i have to give props to the Iron Warriors for their formation at 17:35. their steps to reset and advance is so clean
i also love the music, sound effects, and visuals for this.
now all we need is something in this/astartes animation style with the night lords
Indeed, the universe is dark and full of terrorism
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Seeing Iron Warriors methodically, slowly, and precisely step forward and tear apart the Drukhari gave me chills.
And while I agree this isn't quite on par with Astartes, here you can still see very similar precise and brutal combat efficiency that the Retributors use, hinting at the Iron Warriors' ties to the Imperial Fists.
There's more I can say, but man it's late. They did a hell of a good job with this one. I really need to snag a Warhammer+ subscription. Thanks for covering it!
My pleasure 07 check out the other playlists
I found it interesting how the female guard turned traitor seeing her people and institutions failed her and also no angels came. She refused to kneel which shows loyalty but the very next second she still got corrupted.
That is heresy if everyone turned their back on the emperor after a tragedy there would be no imperium.
I'm a collector and painter who is deeply invested in the Iron Warriors. I'm so glad this film got made! GW hasn't done a whole heck of a lot with these guys in recent times, so this is just great. Thanks for the review. I enjoy your take on it.
I find it cool that he reconginzed the guardsmen as stronger and granted her a stronger position letting her be an overseer
Sound - when the drukhari "ghost" is killed with a knife at 25:25, the sound it makes is super similar to the sounds the orb made in Astartes, when it was trying to repel the approaching marines. Especially before it's most powerful push. :D And of course the kill itself is an homage to Astartes kill. :D
It is very likely a subtle sign of the animator, same guy who made Astartes, even if locked inside the basement of GW he still lives!
In the darkness of the far basement, there are only... animations
they should honestly just pay him to continue whatever he was doing already, these new videos are cool lore-wise, but butcher any sort of creativity and quality :(
@@dmitrisochlioukov5003 But then, how can they insert woke messages: like the men being weak...at least 4 cases only in this video.
@@andrew3203 we must make a patreon for him or something so he can make stuff in secret with an alter ego or something xD
That march of doom scene is just GLORIOUS. Step after step, only calculated moves and every shot counts and lands where it's supposed to. That's probably the best depiction of Iron Warriors there is.
That guardswoman should count herself doubly lucky that Honsou wasn’t leading that band of Iron Warriors. If you know, you know.
I'm horrified that i know
@@Donkas so am I.
Flesh for the flesh go…
On second thought I don’t actually know their complete intentions for all the flesh
Isn't that retconned ? (I hope it's retconned)
Who knows, maybe that's why she was spared to begin with. Maybe that warband knows Honsou needs females so they trade her to Honsou.
People forget that the Iron Warriors are a legion known for immense tactical genius, in regards to their breadth of approaches to situations, and the sheer precision in which they do things, targeting bombardments or macroballistics down to the millisecond, and the millimeter.
Wheras other legions may struggle for a precise bombardment, the Iron Warriors could reliably deploy drop pods in the same space, without casualties or hinderance. They are, in many ways, the most able legion. Because it was either succeed, or die.
Old the Iron Warrior is a terrifying thing to fight against.
my favorite part is when the iron warriors arrived and ironed within the throne chambers
"the emperor protects those who fight, get up!"
*gets up and dies* lol
Love to see how you smile when the Angels of Death descend from the sky
That archaon's reaction was ilarious
I love the iron warriors, certainly my favorite legion post heresy I think! Nothing compares to their inexorable advance
Just noticed on the last shot of the guardsman at the end, she had removed the logo from her helmet.
Thank you for taking the time to make your videos. Your channel was the first I subscribed to for 40K Lore Dumps. Your vids get tighter every time. I hope you made your son that Orc army once prophesized. I have now also grown an appreciation for Orcs due to your "Ole Bale Eye" breakdown.
07 my pleasure! We have one HQ and a few troops units were working on
The Drukhari Archon's voicework was phenomenal omg
Id like to know what arrangement they came to with the guardswoman, i doubt they would let her live if she still praised the emperor, but if she changed sides so quickly she would be just as ''weak'' as the commander, who they killed
She already risked death and passed the test, but in a way the IW passed a test for her with the death of her Commander. The IW proved to her that they truly care about Iron Within by killing those willing to join their side through weakness. At that point she had more in common with the IW then she did with anyone from the Imperium. Add the fact that the IW Leader was from that world and was going to fortify it rather then destroy it helps a lot. Finally, the IW wouldn't test her twice after she passed the first one, they'd tell her to get to work and kill her if she didn't without a second thought. You don't waste a second test on someone you see as a shovel.
@@ninjamummysquid Ngl, that’s a really dumb shit test.
They ultimately want slaves loyal to them that won’t disobey any orders, but don’t want weaklings who submit.
I get that WH40k is all about hypocrisy being everywhere, but this is borderline grim derp.
They must have done some kind of arrangement where she had some leeway to negotiate some terms for her people, because the only other alternative is that she’s just submitting to someone, which she said she’ll never do.
Hey if you were her try fighting a Astartes in your mind and think logically which option keeps me generally alive and well
The IW realised how strong a female character she was and all knelt down to her instead. She is clearly the ruler of the world at the end, overseeing all.
I kinda love how in his own twisted and dark way, the Iron Warrior did exactly what the astropath called him for.
He took out the Dark Eldar, fortified the planet so invasions wouldnt happen again, and chose a new civilian leader.
Yeah a bunch of guardsmen got killed, but considering this is the IRON WARRIORS were talking about, a decimation was gonna happen purely for them having to be there anyways. Remember, weakness is a choice to them, and the planet was weak.
What I like most about this is that they don't waste ammo. Each one is taking a single, accurate shot. This reflects the Iron Warriors well. Most other videos or fan movies show the space marines emptying their clips with reckless abandon when they are all supposed to be great marksmen. The Iron Warriors are all about efficiency so that type of fighting wouldn't suit them at all
40k music has really been getting good recently, the backing track to this was metal, teckno and Gothic.
Perrrrrrfect
Even though I saw it coming from the title, I liked the twist of the Iron Warriors arriving. I also liked how badass they were and stoic they were. Personally, I can't decide if I like Iron Warriors or the Imperial Fists better, but seeing the horror that is the Dark Eldar defeated makes it pretty much a happy ending for every human! Lol
Impreal fist and iron warriors are like there primarch dorn and purti. 2 sides of the same coin
Uh, considering this planet just became a Daemon World to fuel Chaos sacrifices, I would not say happy ending....
@@andrew3203 iron warriors actually organize and rule their worlds. It's a very cruel regime but there is order. So no real rituals besides putting demons into machines. Rituals and sacrifices are a word bearers specialty
But did you also guess the female. Character would come in top and the males would all be meak and corrupt?
Well duh, it's wokehammer40k after all.
The Mandrakes slipping in and out of the shadows was perfectly done.
The way the Iron Warriors advanced was executed perfectly. Kudos to the creators!
This is pretty close to perfect, only thing is like he mentioned, the animations are bit rigid at times and I’d also like to see a bit more of the scale of a planetary attack shown
Planet governor"the angels are a myth...they do not exist" me"...yeah...about that"
That space didn't take his head off he just back handed him and broke his neck.
The Alpha Legion is also pretty decent to regular people. I mean during the Great Crusade they used many humans as agents in their legion and showed them a great deal of respect much higher than other legions that saw they as mere cannon fodder.
Yeah, but remember that Alphas are just as likely to get rid of their assets, once they've served their purpose. And retirement is not a thing in 40K.