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My fiance at the time went hunting in colorado with his friends in 2020. It's a trip they have gone on many times over the years. I talked with him just before they headed out to their base camp because there is no cell signal up there. The next evening, I got a phone call from his friend Kevin, one of the guys in the hunting party, I knew something was wrong. When I answered, Kevin said Ted went missing. They searched for him when he didn't show up at the Plateau they were heading for, and he didn't answer them on the radio. They did thankfully find him. He had wandered off the mapped out trail and died from high altitude cerebral adima and a massive heart attack. I was grateful they had found him before a mountain lion dragged him off and hid him forever. His sudden death was devastating enough, but to never have found him or knew what happened to him would have been agony. My heart goes out to anyone who has lost someone in the woods, never to be found, and never to have an answer as to why.❤
When I was 15 my dad and another gentleman were flying home in a two seater plane. The gentleman got disoriented in the mountains of Washington. The plane crashed in a wooded area. There were searches, but at that time tracking wasn’t available (1964). It was 10 years later that the area was being logged off that they found the plane. We finally had closure.
Thank you for remembering these people. Our society is so sick. We aren’t even given time or the opportunity to leave. I remember going into work the day after my Dad died- I remember thinking, there’s NO WAY I should be anywhere near a professional environment right now. I was SO distraught. It was shocking, very sudden. My coworkers barely even acknowledged it. It was so painful. When I lost my baby too, a miscarriage, I had to tell my work partner, (job responsibilities and why I was missing work,) and he didn’t even say I’m sorry, nothing. I feel like everyone is so desensitized now. Nothing shocks us. Nothing even gets in. We are flooded with so much, it’s over an overload. I now make a conscious effort to always set my phone down and away when speaking to someone. I make eye contact and actively listen. I want to be better. I want to help be apart of positive change. I don’t want these deaths, ANY deaths, to just …not matter. Thank you for doing this all.
I’m really sorry for what happened to you, I lost 2 pregnancies myself and had no one by my side. You re completely validated and I feel the same way.sending love and blessings
Thank you for sharing! As the most rich country in the world it is the bare minimum that we, as a collective, care for the basic necessities of life, among those protection for all of us so that none of us feels like we have to go into work sick, injured, or grieving.
When i lived at ft Irwin military base my small dog got out of the fence in the yard and was missing for 5 full days. Then i got a call saying he was found out in the training area, and he was lucky to be found because they were not using that area again for months but they went to patrol out there and found him. He was tired, hungry, and very dehydrated after a week in the California desert in the summer time. With how much i wondered and worried about him in that week and kept thinking about everything that could have happened to him I know I would go crazy with it being a person i love lost with no answers.
A common denominator in almost all cases is the lack of using paper maps and compasses. For some reason they substitute battery powered cell phones. No service and dead batteries result.
Two friends and I were in the back country of mountain Rainier climbing in the cowlitz range when we found the remains of a college student working for the park service 10 years prior. She had fallen off a cliff onto a ledge. She was identified by a family business pen in the pack. She was miles from where she was supposed to be counting mt goats Julie Filio was her name
I find it heartbreaking that searchers at one point were maybe 200 yards away from where Mrs. Largay was eventually found. The woods were so dense that the guy that found her didn't see it until he was a few yards from her. I also find it sad that she did what is recommended most to do when you're lost, mainly, find a safe spot,stay put, and await searchers. Yet, unfortunately, they missed her.
Sad, Please Enjoy your Adventures don’t get lost I’m just going to look and bam what the. Mountains Forest and all they entail are wondrous but Deadly.
I've hiked a lot and In 40 years and have been hit 3 times with bad storms. I always just dug in and rode it out. I always carry more than I need and know to be prepared for just such situations. Plan for the unexpected.
Inchworm's story always breaks my heart every time I hear it. She seemed so sweet and just wanted to enjoy hiking despite being directionally challenged.
It is sad but if you are “directionally challenged” you really shouldn’t hike alone or at least carry GPS tracking/navigation gear. A good GPS unit would have put her right back on the trail. It’s too late for her and her loved ones now but it really should be a lesson for everyone else. I feel sorry for them- I just don’t understand why she would try to do this alone and under-equipped when she knew that she tended to get lost. It’s nothing to be ashamed of- just use the right gear. Obviously, even just an emergency tracker/communicator would have saved her life as well as sparing her family from such an agony. How horrible is it for people when finally finding someone dead is actually a relief? If you won’t do it for yourself, do it for the ones you love. Searching is costly and dangerous- many people get hurt or even die during searches, especially in bad weather.
Not only that, if this woman was insistent on hiking alone, she should have had basic wilderness survival training and/or a gps or satellite phone. A simple thing like placing your tent or reflective blanket in an area without canopy might have made the difference in survival.
@@Helenlouisee I live in one of the few areas with quite large forests in Scotland. There’s an Abbey where Benedictine monks stay. A few, very elderly ones whether almost deliberately or bc of dementia have wandered out , never been found.
@@Looshfarmer ahh true I should have said England lol don’t think England has anywhere you could get losses unless you count using google maps in Cornwall then your definitely screwed 😂😂
Yes!!!! That's what I was thinking. Even if a bowel movement is needed, you really don't have to go far. Any decent folks will completely ignore you IF you aren't quite far enough away. No way am I travelling deep off path.
Unfortunately, some people (including my wife) can get lost in an elevator. One person I horse ride with is another example. Once, after a ride, we loaded our horses and headed home on paved roads. My friend took the lead. About a mile down the road he took a right turn onto a major state highway we had turned right off of only a few hours before. Of course he should have turned LEFT to go home. Imagine if this had been in a wooded, desolate area with poorly marked trails and he was alone! Her friend should never have left her alone on the Appalachian Trail. Hindsight is always 20/20 though. I’ve been ‘lost’ a time or two and it is hard to fight down panic, remain calm and figure things out.
Anyone who hikes alone should have a sat phone or tracking device. One press of the button and just sit and wait for the calvary. May all of these hikers rest in peace!
These are often very sad stories and I appreciate your gentle and respectful presentation. I live in a small town surrounded by wilderness and it can be dangerous out there.
I grew up in northwest Ontario. I used to try and walk a straight line from the backyard of our cabin to the road 400m away, never made it, usually came out of the woods100m from where I went in. Never go off trail.
@@patrickglaser1560 I’ve been saying that since I started watching this channel 2 years ago. I KNOW UA-cam is screwing them over cuz I see them mentioned in many many videos on so many other channels and yet they NEVER get more subscribers (or so it’s shown.) and same with the like and comments….. they (as in UA-cam ) remove pretty much 95% of the subs and like and comments to make it seem like they aren’t popular and also to screw Steve and bill over. It’s VERY frustrating as a fan to see the LITERAL BEST CHANNEL have to be scammed so bad. Steve is the most liked man I have heard of!!
I'm not a hiker but it seems to me, if you're heading into the wilderness, packing a satellite communication device (EPIRB?) and GPS would be an absolute must.
Also people need to always carry some kind of firearm... I cannot understand why people go out into the wilderness with no type of weapon at all!! You never know who or what ur gonna come across and should always be prepared for danger!!
Some people are just not very bright, as evidenced by her going off on her own when she could not even find her way back from the restroom area to the trail.
Geraldine was a loving grandma who wanted to challenge herself and had no clue how dangerous it was to be alone. I usually am not bothered much by the stories of people lost or attacked, but her picture with the grandson and the bravery shown in the face of what she understood was coming really hits hard!
It's no longer so crazy when you realize that anyone can become lost. No matter how well they know the area. They become disoriented and go missing just as much as an experienced pilot can become disoriented and lose their horizon and then crash. Once you lose your senses, its a wrap
It seems Geraldine could’ve common-sensed her way out of this. The Appalachian Trail runs generally North-South. If you’re hiking north on the trail, for example, and you step off to the left to relieve yourself, that means you’re west of the trail. If you’re lost and it’s getting dark, stop until morning. Then wake up and head toward the sun, East, and you’d run across the trail. You can even roughly estimate how long you’d need to walk before finding the trail: if the previous day you’d wandered lost for, say, 2 hours before pitching camp, that means it would take you 2 hours at most before you could expect to find the trail the next day. And if you’re going directly east, in this example, you’d likely hit the trail in less time than you wandered when you got lost. That is, you likely didn’t walk due west all that time; you likely meandered.
Well... that took some thought. Good on you because I probably would have never even thought of that; I probably would have just been looking for landmarks I had passed, on my meanderings or I would have just sat down and cried. God bless you Jude, from Kentucky ✝️🐴🇺🇸
Apparently, she didn't know how to properly use a compass. Only carried a small 'toy' compass on her. Didn't know very basic survival skills like how get a fire going or how to maintain it, or how to wayfind; which is what the OP described. She also got lost easily according to her hiking partner. She wasn't equipped mentally or physically (she had back issues that meant she didn't carry as much gear as recommended) for solo hiking.
Geraldine. 1 never go alone into the woods. If you get lost stay put and make noise. I find it very strange that she was alive for 27 days and with all those searches she did not hear anyone.
Somebody mentioned in another docu that she was a bit hard of hearing. Perhaps later she had a fever or became delirious without water, nutrition, becoming wet, cold, loneliness and fear.
I've hiked the trails to Longs Peak in Colorado and trails in the Appalachians and beyond and I've always had the necessary gear and equipment to sustain me including fishing line and hooks, first aid essentials. But no matter how prepared you are... anything can happen and it will! Best to go with someone comparable to your skills and abilities. So sorry for these loses of beautiful ppl! TY for this video and your kindness! Namaste. From a Vietnam Era Marine Corps veteran.
@@womanofsteel9276 Thank you so much for your thoughtfulness to a veteran and kind words. As an avid hiker and former Critical care RN, 1st responder and a medical team leader for Hurricaine Katrina disaster relief... I have come across numerous incidents in the wilderness where hikers were with minor injuries or having altitude issues or dehydration. They were not prepared! I hope you are well and cared for! Namaste.
THANK YOU 4 UR SERVICE IN Vietnam! My best friend from high school served in Vietnam & died many yrs later due to Agent Orange! I think of him often & know that I would have gladly served with him, but don't think a girl & a guy were allowed to serve as buddies during that era! He was the best guy friend I ever had & hope 2 see him in heaven! THANKS again 4 Ur service, U r a true hero!
That is not going to protect you nor is it going to guarantee that they find your body, I live on Vancouver Island in a few years ago we had a hiker go missing, he was a weekend warrior so you know within his circles they all think they're great hikers but the Bushmen such as myself laugh at those people but I digress,, he was also alone, he went missing with a Locator Beacon they couldn't find him, my landlord's boyfriend and his friends found him, they went out in the summer and rather than go to the very peak of one of the mountains they decided it was dangerous and just to take the little path around the bottom on that path they found his body, because of course when everything was snow covered he climbed to the top which every Bushman knows you don't do and he slipped and ended up in some calving snow he slid down to the bottom of the crevasse and was subsequently buried with snow,, search dogs couldn't find him they couldn't pick up the signal from the tracker beacon under all that snow and right next to a rock face. People who feel that they need a Locator Beacon or a gun should probably not Venture into the greater wilderness,, I've spent over 20 years in the bush and I have been where no other person has ever walked, I've done so unarmed and I have run into every single kind of Wildlife, the thing about the forest is if you act like pray you'll get treated like prey, Trail Runners are morons and often referred to as fast food by Bushman because they are just running with their earbuds in completely oblivious to the fact that they look just like the prey animals,,, as I'm writing this the part of the video is playing talking about the retirement age woman who ventured off alone who had a poor sense of direction,,, why did her family let her do this why did her husband let her do this there was nothing accidental and I'd love to see her health records because she's not the only old person who finds out they're sick and says I just want to run away to the forest I don't want to be poked and prodded to death or put in a home to rot.....
She likely became disoriented after relieving herself and, without a proper compass or marker, continued in the wrong direction. Apparently, she was prone to getting lost and should never have continued alone without her partner.
Stay together. A very experienced hiker wanted to solo hike in a new Ontario provincial park. Basically wilderness. They made a wrong turn one morning walked a day the wrong direction. Etc. They never wanted to solo again. Like they were glad to survive. Stay together. 🇨🇦
I was a member of both mountain club of Zimbabwe & mountain club of South Africa. The 1st 10 Commandments of the both clubs were, DON’T HIKE ALONE, EVER! I’ve gone alone on hikes in uk but always with OS map, GPS, a map, my phone & a compass. When I haven’t got coverage for my phone I feel both hands have been cut off! The rest of the items usually help out. I’ve also got a good sense of direction & use the sun as a direction router-failing supposed trail markers being removed - inconsiderate hikers memento collectors!
It's so easy to get lost in the woods. I got lost in a state park in my area. I've been there hundreds of times. My friend and I were chit-chatiing and accidentally wandered off trail. We walked for hours in the heat until we spotted a trail above us up a very steep cliff. We made it to the parking lot at sunset, terribly dehydrated. Thank you Jesus.
She was a seasoned trail hiker. Her husband was meeting her at various checkpoints. One mistake doesn’t define her capabilities even if it did cost her life. My question is why she didn’t leave a trail of items or tie a rope to something to follow back out.
@@wannabesleuthinsomethin If she was cognitiv not able anymore it doesn't matter there someone is meeting her up. One step on the wrong trail and your gone. Why was he meeting her up at the trail?? 🫣 I think they knew that she was cognitiv not able to be complete alone. Everybody has to understand that sport is not just the physical ability to do something it is also about using your brain. Some sport need it more some less. People underestimate how much of your cognitiv abilitys are needed when you do something. If we like it or not we decline - sometimes. Accept it, work on it but don't deny it cause you could harm others with that.
Hiya Steve. Late again 😂😂. My Mom passed away Tuesday night so I haven't been on line much. But your channel distracts my mind from over thinking and helps me. ❤❤❤ Hi from a very cold West of Ireland.
These days the answer is simple - for anything non-trivial ALWAYS carry a PLB or other GPS satellite device that can guide the SAR team directly to your location when activated. Almost all of these harrowing tragedies would have been avoided this way, and they are relatively inexpensive and light to carry. Of course it's vital to master navigation and avalanche avoidance too. But carrying a rescue beacon can save your family and the rescue volunteers untold heartache. It's the responsible thing to do.
Hi, do they rent these kinds of devices?? I'm not sure if they're expensive but if people were able to rent them then most of these instances can possibly be avoided...
Geraldine's story is sad and scary, just thinking of how frightened she must have felt realizing she was hopelessly lost without no means of communication . I have read many different accounts. Some articles i thought might say she was on medication so maybe she ran out on the trail making her panick even worse and maybe contributing to her confusion. I could be wrong. Some articles i thought, said that she was afraid of the dark and stayed in hotel rooms a lot when she was alone, so i am wondering if she was awake all night when lost , with keeping the fires going and sleeping all day from exhaustion and hunger making her too weak to go far and in a deep sleep to the point where she did not hear searchers and the dogs when they were nearby. I will never understand why her husband and her friend, knowing her details and situation , did not try to find her another hiking buddy or gps tracking. I think i read an article where she had a gps but it was left behind at a hotel room. Its just a tragic situation for Geraldine, her family and friends and the searchers.
See, I was always taught that if you get lost anywhere, especially in the woods, to just stay put until someone comes along. Otherwise, it makes it more difficult for resue to find you.
Compass, N/S/E/W; learn to use this tool. It may help rescue you. Also, a roll of bio ribbon in pocket instead of change and gadgets, brighter the better. large safety pins. Have been in the woods alone many times, trail or not. PS, double tie knots. No necklace, but compass with picture ID inside around neck, extra gloves in pocket and of course good pocketknife with waterproof matches and first aid kit. Learn to make safe fire, learn to make safe signal fire, smoke can be seen for many miles. Take CPR update and learn SOS signs. THREE yes 3 is the number to remember, tap, tap, tap a hollow tree, yell, yell, yell long clear word like help, pause, help, pause, help, listen. ALWAYS use bright ribbon to step off trail. Small piece on limb or limbs then remove ribbon when back on track. Should you get turned around in the forest wrap ribbon around wrist and legs to be spotted as you seek safety... Stay in open when available and seek higher clear areas to be spotted. I am Jon of Wendell and Jean
Women, especially alone, tend to go further to prevent being found in such a vulnerable position. Geraldine likely initially only went a hundred meters but became confused and disoriented (she was know for getting lost) and began walking in the wrong direction. She apparently lacked _very_ basic skills, including how to properly use a compass, so once she was turned around she was completely lost. She even set her bright yellow tent up under a tree instead of in open ground where it'd be spotted by air search.
you have to earn my respect and dying because you stepped off the trail for a bathroom break earns ZERO respect from me! But you respect her corpse all you want ya creep!@@purplevelvet69
First time ive listened to you Steve and it was great 😊 RIP to all of these souls & happy for their families to actually get an answer all those years later ❤
I've seen several documentaries covering her case. She was wholly unprepared for the Appalachian trail. She was meant to have a hiking partner with her but the other woman had to leave for a family emergency. Geraldine apparently didn't know some very basic survival skills. Only had a small 'toy' compass and probably didn't know how to properly use it; and, she got lost easily. She shouldn't have been on the AP alone. She properly shouldn't have been on it at all as she had a back issue that prevented her from carrying all the recommed gear.
Satellite locator: Send from locations with open view south. Go uphill to ridges or peaks to use your cell phone. I’ve connected to cell towers 60 miles away, from peaks on the Church-RIver of NoReturn wilderness. Get in the open, and leave signals for air searchers.
several of the local cases in my area resulted in the hiker being found deceased, just MINUTES away from a trailhead and/or civilization. South Mountain, Camelback, the Superstitions, Spur Cross are just a few examples. still, nobody has found a young man who went missing just a few yards from an overlook just feet from a popular road, 3+ years ago. another, i'll call "joe" disappeared 13 years ago and has not been found.
Geraldine Largay's case is just sad and a little frustrating. If your sense of direction is that bad, why would you attempt to hike the AT? I've been on the trail many times and although there are "blazes" marking the trail, they sometimes are not consistent or easy to see. There are also markers for side trails to springs, etc. It can be easy to get off the main trail but you have to have good sense of landmarks and direction
She started the trail with a partner who had to abandon the hike due to a family emergency. Geraldine decided to continue alone; which was a terrible decision.
Shame on Geraldine's friend for leaving her especially when she was already having difficulties and her lack for sense of direction which I'm also Horrible at
You do not know what her friend's emergency was, so don't judge. Personally, I would never have agreed to head out on a long hike like this with someone I knew I would need to babysit like a small child the entire way.
I’m also direction challenged, always have been. It is scary when you lose all sense of direction. That is why I hike with at least 1 friend . I feel for this poor lady . But I never would have left her alone , and would have insisted she has to come back with me.
Someone being "directionally challenged" has no business hiking without a GPS or at THE VERY LEAST a map of the area u can actually READ! Come on people!!! and elderly to boot? And ALONE? Soooo many mistakes made her I can barely get my head around it.I get it. Hiking made her happy. Then spring for a damn GPS! They were a retired couple more than able to afford one. It's just careless and demonstrates a lack of respect for the sport. Just because u CAN do something doesn't mean u should. She KNEW her limitations yet still went off half-assed. THIS IS THE RESULT. RIP ma'm❤
Why, why, why don’t these people just carry a personal locator beacon? In Geraldine‘s case she would be rescued in a matter of a day or two maybe sooner I do not understand this for the life of me. Anyone doing this kind of hiking certainly has to be aware of these devices and the differences in them and a satellite communicator. There are very important differences, I personally use a personal locator beacon made by ACR. The battery last five years, so no forgetting to recharge it it uses three different satellite constellations and it has a full 5 W of power. This is important because you can get a signal out of a deep canyon or under a snow covered canopy most of the satellite communicators are pretty low powered. They have their place to keep in touch with friends and family but in a life or death emergency I would want the PLB. I’ve watched so many of these where people have died unnecessarily. It’s sad.
What?! That close to the trail? Where was she all those days that she couldnt find the trail only to be within 100 feet when she died!@@mobilewintercamp7515
@@mobilewintercamp7515yes but I wasn't counting the 150 feet off the trail because it was still going to be 2!miles to the station the only thing that I can think of is maybe she sprained her ankle? But if that's the case why would she leave that out of her diary or the text messages? I know they didn't send but it would still be logged as an outgoing message. Still sad and a little sus
@@johnnyghoul8100 I think she is just that bad in her ability and should have stayed closer to the trail for safety. She got disoriented and just exhausted herself.
If you are lost (my Dad always told me!) find an open space if possible to get an oversight of the area. Make up something witch can easily been seen from above. Only search the surrounding area in short trips and MARK them that you can go back easily. I still hike shorter trails alone. I am 70. Always with a map and a compass... I will not use my phone. Found out in young age that I have an natural ability to create a map in my head... 😮 I only got lost once... in a city (Lisbon)😂 but found my way back where I started. Was an interesting round trip.😊
These stories just break my heart. My cousin Terry Knight went missing in McCloud, California almost 2 years ago and I wonder if one day someone may find his remains. I pray for all these families and everyone that searched for them!!
From a trail marker you are supposed to look forward and see a marker and look back and see a marker. When they remark trails... One way is to go between the old markers From a trail marker you are supposed to look forward and see a marker and look back and see a marker. Another way is just to put a second by the old marker... Or sometimes they just put by the bad or missing markers...
Just a tip, if you are hiking alone and have to use the bathroom use a ball of twine or yarn tie it to a branch or tree next to the trail, then you will find your way back.
Poor lady going off trail..I don't want to sound mean but if you don't have a good sense of direction maybe don't go into the appalachians! And have flare gun, any gun, maps i don't know just please understand how to keep yourself visible if you do get lost!!!
When ever i hear of lost people being found after years , i hope they were found with a group of similar people who just checked out of modern life and were living isolated , back in remote area. But it seldom turns out like that
People can die just being in high altitude areas. People come up here to where I live We are just 2hrs outside of Disneyland people come here to ski etc but they don't realize how dangerous the altitude is they become so nauseous / sick they think they have the flu. They don't realize they can have a stroke simply from the altitude and dehydration as it is so dry. We have our emergency room constantly filled with visitors who have overdone it or simply have altitude sickness to the point that they need to leave massive headaches can cause an embolism in the brain. Some people find themselves with lack of oxygen when they're up here. Since They don't understand what's wrong with themselves and if they come here for a week's vacation can find themselves weak unable to breathe etc and they don't realize it's a serious situation They just think they're a little bit sick from something. If they bring an elderly relative they have put that person in danger if that person has any form of COPD etc. People don't realize you can't just go on vacation and think you're going to be fine going to a different altitude. Luckily we have pretty good search and rescue and a lot of times people aren't lost for very long but when they are yes we have mountain lions. We have bears. We also have coywolves unfortunately created by wolf owners who let them free when they lost their home up here and they mated with the coyotes. Extremely beautiful animals but they have no fear of humans. They would have no problem dragging a body off because they need to feed themselves. We have an extreme wilderness area right outside of a high density urban suburban area that is filled with people completely oblivious to what it is like in the wilderness They didn't grow up around it they hardly ever go to it when they are kids and then they decide let's pack up the car and go up there and spend the weekend because they can get there in less than 2 hours from any point in our part of the state within four counties and they're the largest counties in the state with highest density. So I guess the message is altitude is a very dangerous thing It can kill you in an instant with an embolism to the brain You can become very ill in the lungs and not really realize that you've got an embolism there You can throw blood clots because your blood is not working properly so please be very cautious when you come up here We are over a mile high and yeah you might want to ride your mountain box too but who wants to end up in the emergency room Make sure that everybody you bring here pays attention to their health keeps hydrated and doesn't go off trail.
I worked and lived in Yellowstone National Park at 7800ft elevation, coming from a city at 400ft elevation. They taught us about altitude sickness our first day. Glad I took it to heart. So many people ended up sick and in the hospital. Especially the alcohol drinkers. Several helicopter worthy. It has become a habit now to hydrate regularly.
The story of the hiker, who's trail name was "Inch Worm," only goes to prove that all cell phone providers should put in towers along the AT so all texts and calls for emergency assistance can go through. Think of how many lost hikers this would prevent this sort of thing. Every hiker, group or solo, would benefit from this. Not everyone can afford a satellite phone. Also, it would be safety requirement to have each hike have a GPS tracker on their person to aid in locating and rescue, or recovery, of each hiker. The National Park and Forest service could give or loan them out and make it a requirement for each hiker to aid searchers in finding them. In today's advance technology world this shouldn't be a problem. I've hiked on the John Muir Trail and in the Grand Canyon South Rim to North Rim and other smaller hikes in my lifetime and would have welcomed this easily carried device on my hikes. In future, I hope the USForest Service and National Park Service implements this sort of service. Imagine all the lives would be saved or recovered.
Doesn't this kind of take all of the adventure out of this adventurous activity? Sorry but I would like to leave some things without training wheels on Earth.
@@anthonypanozzo9319 maybe, but I know some of the forest services require the trackers if you cross country ski in the back country or in areas prone to avalanche.
@@lindabriggs5118there are towers right by where she was. It all depends on the topography. Up high or in town no problem, walk a hundred feet in the woods and a mini valley can cause the signal to be blocked. She was behind Sugarloaf Ski Mt. There’s probably a tower at the peak if not there’s towers around there. Kennebago Mt for one. I’m all over that area, signals come and go.
Hello, it has been a while since I've been here but I wanted to give everyone here an update on how things are. Things are going well my wife and our 4 children are currently on vacation in the North Carolina mountains so long story short last week my Twin daughters turned 5 months old. Also, my sister is 5 months with pregnant with her 2nd child, she'll be doing her ultrasound next week so very soon she will be doing her gender reveal so I'm looking forward to that.
If someone is THAT awful at directions yet still INSISTS on going it alone…..what TF….I’d say they knew it would happen and didn’t bother her that much 🤷🏼♀️ if she was THAT worried you’d think she’d learn all the skills she could regarding directions and using a compass 🤷🏼♀️🙄 Just don’t get it. She’s bad enough she got lost only go a short way for the trail to pee, but apparently even knowing she was awful at directions ….she wasn’t super careful noticing landmarks when she left the trail and not very careful going BACK to the trail. Is the trail THAT busy you must leave really far into the forest to pee? Positive it isn’t, so why did she knowing her zero sense of direction? who knows. All I can say is I hope her loved ones didn’t suffer too much for her stubborn plans to continue even knowing her bad ability to hike without getting lost. Imo if simply going off trail gets her lost, She was doomed to be lost on this trip alone at some point along the trail anyways. Our arrogance and overconfidence in things kills us over and over again. Least she wasn’t young with her life ahead of her. Better than dying in a nursing home.
She just had very little respect for the trails and those who hike them...likely thinking anyone can do it “it’s just walking”. Of all the stories, hers is always the most frustrating to me, because I know someone like her and she has the same attitude towards activities that require knowledge, skill and experience
What an absolutely heartless comment. Being unkind doesn't make you more knowledgeable or better than her. At least she wasn't young? What kind of comment is that? I hope you learn to be kinder and maybe, next time, don't write what comes in to your brain. Or at least stop and think, Hey maybe someone who loves her will read this and maybe I shouldn't be a jerk.
Many years ago I was Jeep off-roading and took what I thought was a trail but wasn't and got lost and then dropped down 20 feet into a creak and injured my left knee so really couldn't walk. I have grown up in the woods and was in law enforcement at the time and still am so I know how to survive but I admit I was very scared. By a miracle I got a signal on my phone and called 911 but they had a hard time finding me and thankfully I was armed and was able to fire into the air to guide them in but I still had to stumble part way too rescue personnel. The worst part was the cost of having my Jeep recovered. I never went out alone again.
Im sorry but Geraldines story is soooo frustrating. Why in the world would ANYONE let that woman go on such a long hike alone like that?! and why did she just give up?? she was just camping out for a month instead of trying to find her way back. Why did she go so far off the trail to use the bathroom to where she couldnt find her way back?? like wtf she had a working flashlight and everything im so confused she didnt have to die its almost like she wanted to
I do, for the quiet and solitude. I've yet to do a solo overnight though. Edit: I, as a woman from a large city, also feel safer in the woods alone. Sad but true.
I can tell you..If you're in condition, you feel invincible. I hiked many miles solo in the Rockies with no fear...I look back and think how the good Lord watched over me.
Seems as though all of these people died doing what they enjoyed perhaps most. Their souls were long gone from their physical bodies before discovered. We all should be so lucky. I would welcome passing on while experiencing an extended fishing and metal detecting trip in some remote place. Sadly, none of us get to choose how we go. I will toast to these individuals tonight while hoping they are at peace in spirit until they next wake...
I couldn’t watch this video more than half way through. Sad that this 66 year old lady simply was lost off the Appalachian trail and probably died from dehydration. She should’ve never been out there alone.
With all the incredible technology at our finger tips now, NO person should be allowed onto a mountain trail without a personal locator beacon. They are the size of a cell phone and the administrators of the trails could simply offer them at discounted rental rates to help recover costs associated with recovering those lost or injured.
“Allowed” Yeah, that’s going to be a problem. It would be impossible to regulate this. Great idea but people love their freedom. We all die. It may be hard to hear about someone going missing on a trail but in reality they have reached their final destination. We all reach it. It’s just a matter of when. Can’t save everyone. Not everyone wants to be saved.
These state parks have rules printed on reams of paper telling us what we can and can't do in THEIR parks, whats one more with the actual benefit of saving lives? I know as soon as I said the people actually using said parks might have to pay the rental there would be pushback. Then let the state provide it as a free service, not like they aren't collecting billions in taxes every year anyway, right? The last thing I'll say is this, America doe's not need nor want a Mount Aokigahara. Look it up. @@joebeezy9471
I am always amazed at the people who go hiking by themselves. As a Girl Scout, we were told to always go in pairs, or groups, so that if someone got hurt, lost, or trapped, her partner could go for help.
A girl I knew in High School disappeared while climbing a 14k footer. She was with her boyfriend and another guy, who both had to turn around, but she was determined to summit. She never returned to the car. SAR was unable to locate her. Several years later, a hunter found her backpack, phone, wallet and a few bones. An acquaintance of mine from work also lost his life shortly after reaching the summit of another 14k mountain in Colorado after a fall from a 35 to 40 ft cliff. Dont solo hike 14k mountains.
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My fiance at the time went hunting in colorado with his friends in 2020. It's a trip they have gone on many times over the years. I talked with him just before they headed out to their base camp because there is no cell signal up there. The next evening, I got a phone call from his friend Kevin, one of the guys in the hunting party, I knew something was wrong. When I answered, Kevin said Ted went missing. They searched for him when he didn't show up at the Plateau they were heading for, and he didn't answer them on the radio. They did thankfully find him. He had wandered off the mapped out trail and died from high altitude cerebral adima and a massive heart attack. I was grateful they had found him before a mountain lion dragged him off and hid him forever. His sudden death was devastating enough, but to never have found him or knew what happened to him would have been agony. My heart goes out to anyone who has lost someone in the woods, never to be found, and never to have an answer as to why.❤
So sorry for your loss 🙏❤️
I'm glad he was found. ✝️🙏❤️🙌
Heartbreaking , I'm so sorry ...
Omg
I'm so sorry!
Glad you told his story
When I was 15 my dad and another gentleman were flying home in a two seater plane. The gentleman got disoriented in the mountains of Washington. The plane crashed in a wooded area. There were searches, but at that time tracking wasn’t available (1964). It was 10 years later that the area was being logged off that they found the plane. We finally had closure.
So sorry you had to wait so long but glad they found them in the end.
🙏🙏🙏🙏
That sounds like a long nightmare! I am so sorry for your loss!
So very sorry for your loss. Thank goodness that they finally found them 🙏🙏
I'm so sorry that you lost your dad, but I am glad that the plane was found and you and your mom had some closure.🙏✝️
Thank you for remembering these people. Our society is so sick. We aren’t even given time or the opportunity to leave. I remember going into work the day after my Dad died- I remember thinking, there’s NO WAY I should be anywhere near a professional environment right now. I was SO distraught. It was shocking, very sudden. My coworkers barely even acknowledged it. It was so painful. When I lost my baby too, a miscarriage, I had to tell my work partner, (job responsibilities and why I was missing work,) and he didn’t even say I’m sorry, nothing. I feel like everyone is so desensitized now. Nothing shocks us. Nothing even gets in. We are flooded with so much, it’s over an overload.
I now make a conscious effort to always set my phone down and away when speaking to someone.
I make eye contact and actively listen.
I want to be better. I want to help be apart of positive change.
I don’t want these deaths, ANY deaths, to just …not matter.
Thank you for doing this all.
Our condolences on your loss. You are in our prayers. Thank you for listening and for your poignant comment.
I've lost two of my three sons to tragedy. People are heartless. I am sorry for your loss.
Thank you for sharing how hard grief really is. We need to support and acknowledge it better than we do.
I’m really sorry for what happened to you, I lost 2 pregnancies myself and had no one by my side. You re completely validated and I feel the same way.sending love and blessings
Thank you for sharing! As the most rich country in the world it is the bare minimum that we, as a collective, care for the basic necessities of life, among those protection for all of us so that none of us feels like we have to go into work sick, injured, or grieving.
When i lived at ft Irwin military base my small dog got out of the fence in the yard and was missing for 5 full days. Then i got a call saying he was found out in the training area, and he was lucky to be found because they were not using that area again for months but they went to patrol out there and found him. He was tired, hungry, and very dehydrated after a week in the California desert in the summer time. With how much i wondered and worried about him in that week and kept thinking about everything that could have happened to him I know I would go crazy with it being a person i love lost with no answers.
Amen I'll never forget my lab was lost for 20 minutes, I don't know how parents survive 😢❤
A common denominator in almost all cases is the lack of using paper maps and compasses. For some reason they substitute battery powered cell phones. No service and dead batteries result.
Thank you. Just common sense IMO.
Always best to keep a map and compass in the backpack. Phones play up, batteries die, could be dropped and break... So many things could go wrong.
@@itsjustme7487juat because you know what to do doesn't mean its common sense. Whats common to one person is not to another.
@@wahdurci so glad one other person realizes this.
Sadly, many younger people do not even know how to read a map or compass.
Two friends and I were in the back country of mountain Rainier climbing in the cowlitz range when we found the remains of a college student working for the park service 10 years prior. She had fallen off a cliff onto a ledge. She was identified by a family business pen in the pack. She was miles from where she was supposed to be counting mt goats Julie Filio was her name
💔 thankfully you found her, a small blessing for her family
I find it heartbreaking that searchers at one point were maybe 200 yards away from where Mrs. Largay was eventually found. The woods were so dense that the guy that found her didn't see it until he was a few yards from her. I also find it sad that she did what is recommended most to do when you're lost, mainly, find a safe spot,stay put, and await searchers. Yet, unfortunately, they missed her.
She was also very close to a military base when they found her. It is a case study that we go over a lot in Search and Rescue.
Sad, Please Enjoy your Adventures don’t get lost I’m just going to look and bam what the. Mountains Forest and all they entail are wondrous but Deadly.
Take a whistle!
I've hiked a lot and In 40 years and have been hit 3 times with bad storms. I always just dug in and rode it out. I always carry more than I need and know to be prepared for just such situations. Plan for the unexpected.
Inchworm's story always breaks my heart every time I hear it. She seemed so sweet and just wanted to enjoy hiking despite being directionally challenged.
Yeah I agree. Getting out and enjoying the outdoors, at her own pace. She seemed incredibly kind. An awful tragedy. ❤🇦🇺
That's my thoughts! She had such a great smile and a wonderful aura around her in all her pictures I have saw. Would loved to have known her.
And her age! It’s just so sad she was hunkered down so close to help…
It is sad but if you are “directionally challenged”
you really shouldn’t hike alone
or
at least carry GPS tracking/navigation gear.
A good GPS unit would have put her right back on the trail.
It’s too late for her
and her loved ones now
but it really should be a lesson
for everyone else.
I feel sorry for them-
I just don’t understand
why she would try to do this alone
and under-equipped
when she knew that
she tended to get lost.
It’s nothing to be ashamed of-
just use the right gear.
Obviously,
even just an emergency tracker/communicator would have saved her life as well as sparing her family from such an agony.
How horrible is it for people when finally finding someone dead
is actually a relief?
If you won’t do it for yourself,
do it for the ones you love.
Searching is costly and dangerous-
many people get hurt or even die
during searches,
especially in bad weather.
I live in New England and spend a lot of time in that area it's so sad she was so close to the trail
WHY didn't someone give that poor woman a compass and show her how to use it 😢
NEVER go alone...!!
Why didn't she buy one? No need to blame others for her mistake
Compass not much use without a good map with good landmarks. GPS with satellite phone much better.
If I don't go alone I don't go.
Not only that, if this woman was insistent on hiking alone, she should have had basic wilderness survival training and/or a gps or satellite phone. A simple thing like placing your tent or reflective blanket in an area without canopy might have made the difference in survival.
Right? Seriously, wth?
There is a hiker missing in Scotland since May 2022. Neil Skinner was 72 when he left his tent and all his gear.
Weird to think of it happening in the uk given the size difference compared to the us
@@Helenlouisee I live in one of the few areas with quite large forests in Scotland. There’s an Abbey where Benedictine monks stay. A few, very elderly ones whether almost deliberately or bc of dementia have wandered out , never been found.
@@Looshfarmer ahh true I should have said England lol don’t think England has anywhere you could get losses unless you count using google maps in Cornwall then your definitely screwed 😂😂
Any where there are woods people could go missing
@@eddiecruz2613 The area where he was last seen is not very wooded. It's been searched on the ground and by drone but still no sign of him.
Why do people think they have to go deep in the woods to piss. If nobody is around just piss on the nearest bush.
Yes!!!! That's what I was thinking. Even if a bowel movement is needed, you really don't have to go far. Any decent folks will completely ignore you IF you aren't quite far enough away. No way am I travelling deep off path.
Beside the nearest bush, the bush likes rain.
Exactly
Unfortunately, some people (including my wife) can get lost in an elevator. One person I horse ride with is another example.
Once, after a ride, we loaded our horses and headed home on paved roads. My friend took the lead. About a mile down the road he took a right turn onto a major state highway we had turned right off of only a few hours before. Of course he should have turned LEFT to go home.
Imagine if this had been in a wooded, desolate area with poorly marked trails and he was alone!
Her friend should never have left her alone on the Appalachian Trail. Hindsight is always 20/20 though.
I’ve been ‘lost’ a time or two and it is hard to fight down panic, remain calm and figure things out.
I go right next to the trail. I never go off the path. Someone catches me. I'm doing what I gotta do.
Anyone who hikes alone should have a sat phone or tracking device. One press of the button and just sit and wait for the calvary. May all of these hikers rest in peace!
Cavalry. Calvary is the place where Jesus died. Happy Easter!
I had the $$ to sail around the world and a BareBoat License No Thank You.Out in the Golf just US.
My condolences to all the families.
These are often very sad stories and I appreciate your gentle and respectful presentation. I live in a small town surrounded by wilderness and it can be dangerous out there.
A guy who grew up in northern Ontario won’t separate from his group even in a shopping mall. Stay together. Like never swim alone. 🇨🇦
.✌️🇨🇦 also from northern Ont.
I grew up in northwest Ontario. I used to try and walk a straight line from the backyard of our cabin to the road 400m away, never made it, usually came out of the woods100m from where I went in. Never go off trail.
Respect...
Thank you, for covering these stories. Everyone, deserves to be remembered.
The real mystery is how this channel isn’t over 1 million subscribers✅….so well put together thanks for the effort as always 🇺🇸 🇮🇪 ☘️
Wow, thank you!
UA-cam puts their thumbs on the scale... they consider missing people extreme content. We're all on a watch list too btw
@@patrickglaser1560 I’ve been saying that since I started watching this channel 2 years ago. I KNOW UA-cam is screwing them over cuz I see them mentioned in many many videos on so many other channels and yet they NEVER get more subscribers (or so it’s shown.) and same with the like and comments….. they (as in UA-cam ) remove pretty much 95% of the subs and like and comments to make it seem like they aren’t popular and also to screw Steve and bill over. It’s VERY frustrating as a fan to see the LITERAL BEST CHANNEL have to be scammed so bad. Steve is the most liked man I have heard of!!
Thank you for not letting these people be forgotten!!!!!! 😇
I'm not a hiker but it seems to me, if you're heading into the wilderness, packing a satellite communication device (EPIRB?) and GPS would be an absolute must.
Batteries can run out. As a hiker myself, a paper map and compass never fail.
@@UrbanHiker317 Agreed, but I'd think that one could keep the personal locator turned off until needed.
Also people need to always carry some kind of firearm... I cannot understand why people go out into the wilderness with no type of weapon at all!! You never know who or what ur gonna come across and should always be prepared for danger!!
Rachel is dearly missed by her family and her church in Moses Lake.
@BreeFItzgerald I didn't know her. My wife knew her from school. A couple friends knew her. Her disappearance was definitely shocking.
It is hard to understand how someone who is directionally challenged would even think of going on a long hike alone.
Exactly what I was thinking. Makes no sense at all.
They probably didn't weigh it up or plan it.
Some people are just not very bright, as evidenced by her going off on her own when she could not even find her way back from the restroom area to the trail.
Geraldine was a loving grandma who wanted to challenge herself and had no clue how dangerous it was to be alone. I usually am not bothered much by the stories of people lost or attacked, but her picture with the grandson and the bravery shown in the face of what she understood was coming really hits hard!
It's no longer so crazy when you realize that anyone can become lost. No matter how well they know the area. They become disoriented and go missing just as much as an experienced pilot can become disoriented and lose their horizon and then crash. Once you lose your senses, its a wrap
It seems Geraldine could’ve common-sensed her way out of this. The Appalachian Trail runs generally North-South. If you’re hiking north on the trail, for example, and you step off to the left to relieve yourself, that means you’re west of the trail. If you’re lost and it’s getting dark, stop until morning. Then wake up and head toward the sun, East, and you’d run across the trail. You can even roughly estimate how long you’d need to walk before finding the trail: if the previous day you’d wandered lost for, say, 2 hours before pitching camp, that means it would take you 2 hours at most before you could expect to find the trail the next day. And if you’re going directly east, in this example, you’d likely hit the trail in less time than you wandered when you got lost. That is, you likely didn’t walk due west all that time; you likely meandered.
Well... that took some thought.
Good on you because I probably would have never even thought of that; I probably would have just been looking for landmarks I had passed, on my meanderings or I would have just sat down and cried.
God bless you
Jude, from Kentucky
✝️🐴🇺🇸
Sad
...and the sun would rise in the east and set in the west.
Apparently, she didn't know how to properly use a compass. Only carried a small 'toy' compass on her. Didn't know very basic survival skills like how get a fire going or how to maintain it, or how to wayfind; which is what the OP described. She also got lost easily according to her hiking partner. She wasn't equipped mentally or physically (she had back issues that meant she didn't carry as much gear as recommended) for solo hiking.
Geraldine. 1 never go alone into the woods. If you get lost stay put and make noise. I find it very strange that she was alive for 27 days and with all those searches she did not hear anyone.
Somebody mentioned in another docu that she was a bit hard of hearing.
Perhaps later she had a fever or became delirious without water, nutrition,
becoming wet, cold, loneliness and fear.
I've hiked the trails to Longs Peak in Colorado and trails in the Appalachians and beyond and I've always had the necessary gear and equipment to sustain me including fishing line and hooks, first aid essentials. But no matter how prepared you are... anything can happen and it will! Best to go with someone comparable to your skills and abilities. So sorry for these loses of beautiful ppl! TY for this video and your kindness! Namaste. From a Vietnam Era Marine Corps veteran.
@BreeFItzgerald Thank you for your kindness and thoughtfulness. Stay You and be Strong. Shine your divine light everyday! Namaste.
Thank you for your service to our country and for the good advice! Bless your heart. 🙏🏻🇺🇸🩵
@@womanofsteel9276 Thank you so much for your thoughtfulness to a veteran and kind words. As an avid hiker and former Critical care RN, 1st responder and a medical team leader for Hurricaine Katrina disaster relief... I have come across numerous incidents in the wilderness where hikers were with minor injuries or having altitude issues or dehydration. They were not prepared! I hope you are well and cared for! Namaste.
THANK YOU 4 UR SERVICE IN Vietnam! My best friend from high school served in Vietnam & died many yrs later due to Agent Orange! I think of him often & know that I would have gladly served with him, but don't think a girl & a guy were allowed to serve as buddies during that era! He was the best guy friend I ever had & hope 2 see him in heaven! THANKS again 4 Ur service, U r a true hero!
Good advice. Love and gratitude for your service.
Never go hiking without a Personal Locator Beacon.
That is not going to protect you nor is it going to guarantee that they find your body, I live on Vancouver Island in a few years ago we had a hiker go missing, he was a weekend warrior so you know within his circles they all think they're great hikers but the Bushmen such as myself laugh at those people but I digress,, he was also alone, he went missing with a Locator Beacon they couldn't find him, my landlord's boyfriend and his friends found him, they went out in the summer and rather than go to the very peak of one of the mountains they decided it was dangerous and just to take the little path around the bottom on that path they found his body, because of course when everything was snow covered he climbed to the top which every Bushman knows you don't do and he slipped and ended up in some calving snow he slid down to the bottom of the crevasse and was subsequently buried with snow,, search dogs couldn't find him they couldn't pick up the signal from the tracker beacon under all that snow and right next to a rock face.
People who feel that they need a Locator Beacon or a gun should probably not Venture into the greater wilderness,, I've spent over 20 years in the bush and I have been where no other person has ever walked, I've done so unarmed and I have run into every single kind of Wildlife, the thing about the forest is if you act like pray you'll get treated like prey, Trail Runners are morons and often referred to as fast food by Bushman because they are just running with their earbuds in completely oblivious to the fact that they look just like the prey animals,,, as I'm writing this the part of the video is playing talking about the retirement age woman who ventured off alone who had a poor sense of direction,,, why did her family let her do this why did her husband let her do this there was nothing accidental and I'd love to see her health records because she's not the only old person who finds out they're sick and says I just want to run away to the forest I don't want to be poked and prodded to death or put in a home to rot.....
2 miles off trail to use the bathroom, while having a bad sense of direction. Map but no compass??
She likely became disoriented after relieving herself and, without a proper compass or marker, continued in the wrong direction. Apparently, she was prone to getting lost and should never have continued alone without her partner.
Trail 101
If you are lost you stop build a large Smokey fire and wait for rescue. No wandering around looking for signal
You should always pack a lighter/matches, even if you don't smoke.
@@ianbattles7290 and a fire striker never hurts either...
Some probably do not take fire starting equipment.
I'm glad these families got closure.
Everyone every one of these people were alone a basic violation of the rules for safety.😮😢
Stay together. A very experienced hiker wanted to solo hike in a new Ontario provincial park. Basically wilderness. They made a wrong turn one morning walked a day the wrong direction. Etc. They never wanted to solo again. Like they were glad to survive. Stay together. 🇨🇦
I was a member of both mountain club of Zimbabwe & mountain club of South Africa. The 1st 10 Commandments of the both clubs were, DON’T HIKE ALONE, EVER!
I’ve gone alone on hikes in uk but always with OS map, GPS, a map, my phone & a compass. When I haven’t got coverage for my phone I feel both hands have been cut off! The rest of the items usually help out. I’ve also got a good sense of direction & use the sun as a direction router-failing supposed trail markers being removed - inconsiderate hikers memento collectors!
Geraldine looks so happy God bless her 🙏
It's so easy to get lost in the woods. I got lost in a state park in my area. I've been there hundreds of times. My friend and I were chit-chatiing and accidentally wandered off trail. We walked for hours in the heat until we spotted a trail above us up a very steep cliff. We made it to the parking lot at sunset, terribly dehydrated. Thank you Jesus.
Geraldine didn’t seem equipped to be out there solo.
Yep, at least mentally. It was maybe the start of dementia or at least she was cognitiv not able to be on her own.
So you’re just going to forget the 1,000 miles and weeks in the trail before getting lost don’t count for anything?
She was a seasoned trail hiker. Her husband was meeting her at various checkpoints. One mistake doesn’t define her capabilities even if it did cost her life. My question is why she didn’t leave a trail of items or tie a rope to something to follow back out.
@@frankedgar6694 no!!! It doesn't matter when your cognitiv not able anymore.
@@wannabesleuthinsomethin
If she was cognitiv not able anymore it doesn't matter there someone is meeting her up. One step on the wrong trail and your gone.
Why was he meeting her up at the trail?? 🫣
I think they knew that she was cognitiv not able to be complete alone.
Everybody has to understand that sport is not just the physical ability to do something it is also about using your brain. Some sport need it more some less. People underestimate how much of your cognitiv abilitys are needed when you do something. If we like it or not we decline - sometimes. Accept it, work on it but don't deny it cause you could harm others with that.
Hiya Steve. Late again 😂😂. My Mom passed away Tuesday night so I haven't been on line much. But your channel distracts my mind from over thinking and helps me. ❤❤❤ Hi from a very cold West of Ireland.
God Bless you and keep you in His arms.
Greetings from Vienna.
@@stefanschleps8758 Thank you 😊
God bless
Thinking of you and sending strength from soggy Somerset
My condolences. She will be watching over you. God Bless.
I love that you speak soft unlike a lot of UA-cam documentaries. I can actually fall asleep listening to your video! lol
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These days the answer is simple - for anything non-trivial ALWAYS carry a PLB or other GPS satellite device that can guide the SAR team directly to your location when activated. Almost all of these harrowing tragedies would have been avoided this way, and they are relatively inexpensive and light to carry. Of course it's vital to master navigation and avalanche avoidance too. But carrying a rescue beacon can save your family and the rescue volunteers untold heartache. It's the responsible thing to do.
Hi, do they rent these kinds of devices?? I'm not sure if they're expensive but if people were able to rent them then most of these instances can possibly be avoided...
@@LTJC70 Yes, it is possible to rent some of these devices.
Just get a compass.
Geraldine's story is sad and scary, just thinking of how frightened she must have felt realizing she was hopelessly lost without no means of communication . I have read many different accounts. Some articles i thought might say she was on medication so maybe she ran out on the trail making her panick even worse and maybe contributing to her confusion. I could be wrong. Some articles i thought, said that she was afraid of the dark and stayed in hotel rooms a lot when she was alone, so i am wondering if she was awake all night when lost , with keeping the fires going and sleeping all day from exhaustion and hunger making her too weak to go far and in a deep sleep to the point where she did not hear searchers and the dogs when they were nearby. I will never understand why her husband and her friend, knowing her details and situation , did not try to find her another hiking buddy or gps tracking. I think i read an article where she had a gps but it was left behind at a hotel room. Its just a tragic situation for Geraldine, her family and friends and the searchers.
See, I was always taught that if you get lost anywhere, especially in the woods, to just stay put until someone comes along. Otherwise, it makes it more difficult for resue to find you.
Compass, N/S/E/W; learn to use this tool. It may help rescue you. Also, a roll of bio ribbon in pocket instead of change and gadgets, brighter the better. large safety pins.
Have been in the woods alone many times, trail or not. PS, double tie knots. No necklace, but compass with picture ID inside around neck, extra gloves in pocket and of course good pocketknife with waterproof matches and first aid kit. Learn to make safe fire, learn to make safe signal fire, smoke can be seen for many miles. Take CPR update and learn SOS signs.
THREE yes 3 is the number to remember, tap, tap, tap a hollow tree, yell, yell, yell long clear word like help, pause, help, pause, help, listen. ALWAYS use bright ribbon to step off trail. Small piece on limb or limbs then remove ribbon when back on track. Should you get turned around in the forest wrap ribbon around wrist and legs to be spotted as you seek safety...
Stay in open when available and seek higher clear areas to be spotted.
I am Jon of Wendell and Jean
Prayer for the world, all people will have access to a GPS locator . May they all RIP. Sending the Families and Friends much Love and Peace💗
Thank you for sharing these stories of people who just want to get out to nature but end sadly
You snuck one in on me, although I might have missed the upcoming notification or heads up. Thank you for this.
I really like your voice and your method of telling a story. Thank you.
Thanks for listening!
Why did Geraldine wander off the trail so far to b.m usually you just get off the trail a few feet at the most.
Because she was stupid. Sorry if That’s harsh but there’s your answer.
Yeah, I wonder if there is more to this story....
Women, especially alone, tend to go further to prevent being found in such a vulnerable position. Geraldine likely initially only went a hundred meters but became confused and disoriented (she was know for getting lost) and began walking in the wrong direction. She apparently lacked _very_ basic skills, including how to properly use a compass, so once she was turned around she was completely lost. She even set her bright yellow tent up under a tree instead of in open ground where it'd be spotted by air search.
Greetings..thanking you kindly Steve and Nicole..wishing yous an awesome day...😊❤😊
You have a great voice for this content. Very sad stories 😢 glad they were found.💖
Thank you kindly and thanks for listening!
Thank you very much for making these vids. You are a great story teller, and I appreciate 'm a LOT 👍
Greetings from the Netherlands 🇳🇱, TW.
Geraldine ...if you cant step off a trail for a bathroom break without getting hopelessly lost you should stay within city limits!
Sad but true.At least she died doing what she loved.
She died show some respect
you have to earn my respect and dying because you stepped off the trail for a bathroom break earns ZERO respect from me! But you respect her corpse all you want ya creep!@@purplevelvet69
Getting so excited for the missing 411 and the fae theory videos! It's the song combined with your voice. Gets me hyped every time.
First time ive listened to you Steve and it was great 😊 RIP to all of these souls & happy for their families to actually get an answer all those years later ❤
Welcome in! Thanks for listening!
Why didn't the lady hiking the Appalachian trail have a compass or GPS. These stories are so sad and most cases preventable.
Or even a topographical map? Compass and map are necessary items to always have on you when solo hiking or backpacking or hunting
I've seen several documentaries covering her case. She was wholly unprepared for the Appalachian trail. She was meant to have a hiking partner with her but the other woman had to leave for a family emergency. Geraldine apparently didn't know some very basic survival skills. Only had a small 'toy' compass and probably didn't know how to properly use it; and, she got lost easily. She shouldn't have been on the AP alone. She properly shouldn't have been on it at all as she had a back issue that prevented her from carrying all the recommed gear.
Just tie a rope to a tree at the edge of the trail. Take it with you to you pee spot
My idiot ex almost got us killed, up on Mt Adams cross country ski trails. Getting dark and he says let's take a short cut. Hell no.
My sisters husband fell off of Mt Adams a few years back.
Satellite locator: Send from locations with open view south. Go uphill to ridges or peaks to use your cell phone. I’ve connected to cell towers 60 miles away, from peaks on the Church-RIver of NoReturn wilderness. Get in the open, and leave signals for air searchers.
several of the local cases in my area resulted in the hiker being found deceased, just MINUTES away from a trailhead and/or civilization. South Mountain, Camelback, the Superstitions, Spur Cross are just a few examples. still, nobody has found a young man who went missing just a few yards from an overlook just feet from a popular road, 3+ years ago. another, i'll call "joe" disappeared 13 years ago and has not been found.
So you're in Arizona-- which young man are you referring to?
i won't drop names out of respect, since he has not been recovered. search "man missing from needle vista viewpoint"@@liberty8424
Geraldine Largay's case is just sad and a little frustrating. If your sense of direction is that bad, why would you attempt to hike the AT? I've been on the trail many times and although there are "blazes" marking the trail, they sometimes are not consistent or easy to see. There are also markers for side trails to springs, etc. It can be easy to get off the main trail but you have to have good sense of landmarks and direction
Like deciding you want to be a surfer, but you can't swim. A pointless tragedy.
She started the trail with a partner who had to abandon the hike due to a family emergency. Geraldine decided to continue alone; which was a terrible decision.
Shame on Geraldine's friend for leaving her especially when she was already having difficulties and her lack for sense of direction which I'm also Horrible at
A family emergency can’t be helped, Geraldine should have gone with her friend.
Personal responsibility to yourself is always a good thing, why shouldn't you be responsible for own decisions
Geraldine shouldn't have continued on alone, and her husband should have more firmly stopped her from continuing.
You do not know what her friend's emergency was, so don't judge. Personally, I would never have agreed to head out on a long hike like this with someone I knew I would need to babysit like a small child the entire way.
I’m also direction challenged, always have been. It is scary when you lose all sense of direction. That is why I hike with at least 1 friend . I feel for this poor lady . But I never would have left her alone , and would have insisted she has to come back with me.
not sure why people hike alone in remote areas or at least do not carry a locator along with telling people where they will be hiking
Someone being "directionally challenged" has no business hiking without a GPS or at THE VERY LEAST a map of the area u can actually READ! Come on people!!! and elderly to boot? And ALONE? Soooo many mistakes made her I can barely get my head around it.I get it. Hiking made her happy. Then spring for a damn GPS! They were a retired couple more than able to afford one. It's just careless and demonstrates a lack of respect for the sport. Just because u CAN do something doesn't mean u should. She KNEW her limitations yet still went off half-assed. THIS IS THE RESULT. RIP ma'm❤
Or just get a compass and learn how to use it.
Why, why, why don’t these people just carry a personal locator beacon? In Geraldine‘s case she would be rescued in a matter of a day or two maybe sooner I do not understand this for the life of me. Anyone doing this kind of hiking certainly has to be aware of these devices and the differences in them and a satellite communicator. There are very important differences, I personally use a personal locator beacon made by ACR. The battery last five years, so no forgetting to recharge it it uses three different satellite constellations and it has a full 5 W of power. This is important because you can get a signal out of a deep canyon or under a snow covered canopy most of the satellite communicators are pretty low powered. They have their place to keep in touch with friends and family but in a life or death emergency I would want the PLB. I’ve watched so many of these where people have died unnecessarily. It’s sad.
Don’t hike alone.
Imagine dying 2 miles from salvation lighting the trees around the camp was low-key genius though
If you’re talking about the older lady on the AT, she was not even that far from the trail, I believe a hundred feet or so.
What?! That close to the trail? Where was she all those days that she couldnt find the trail only to be within 100 feet when she died!@@mobilewintercamp7515
@@mobilewintercamp7515yes but I wasn't counting the 150 feet off the trail because it was still going to be 2!miles to the station the only thing that I can think of is maybe she sprained her ankle? But if that's the case why would she leave that out of her diary or the text messages? I know they didn't send but it would still be logged as an outgoing message. Still sad and a little sus
@@johnnyghoul8100 I think she is just that bad in her ability and should have stayed closer to the trail for safety. She got disoriented and just exhausted herself.
Thanks again guys! I like hearing details about how the missing are found
If you are lost (my Dad always told me!) find an open space if possible to get an oversight of the area. Make up something witch can easily been seen from above. Only search the surrounding area in short trips and MARK them that you can go back easily.
I still hike shorter trails alone. I am 70. Always with a map and a compass... I will not use my phone.
Found out in young age that I have an natural ability to create a map in my head... 😮 I only got lost once... in a city (Lisbon)😂 but found my way back where I started. Was an interesting round trip.😊
These stories make you want to go on a crazy hike with bad weather in the forecast. Not.
So. Glad. These. People. Were. Found. To. Give. Understanding. Of. Their. Disappearance. Thank. You. Steve. Such. A. Kind. Voice.
These stories just break my heart. My cousin Terry Knight went missing in McCloud, California almost 2 years ago and I wonder if one day someone may find his remains. I pray for all these families and everyone that searched for them!!
So very sorry. I pray they find your cousin,
@@hondarue4758 Thank you!
From a trail marker you are supposed to look forward and see a marker and look back and see a marker.
When they remark trails...
One way is to go between the old markers
From a trail marker you are supposed to look forward and see a marker and look back and see a marker.
Another way is just to put a second by the old marker...
Or sometimes they just put by the bad or missing markers...
You have a great story telling voice. I enjoy listening.
Thank you kindly!
Just a tip, if you are hiking alone and have to use the bathroom use a ball of twine or yarn tie it to a branch or tree next to the trail, then you will find your way back.
Great advice! Thanks!
They make ribbon especially for trail marking. You can also tie a brightly colored article of clothing to a tree near the trail and keep it in sight.
Poor lady going off trail..I don't want to sound mean but if you don't have a good sense of direction maybe don't go into the appalachians! And have flare gun, any gun, maps i don't know just please understand how to keep yourself visible if you do get lost!!!
When ever i hear of lost people being found after years , i hope they were found with a group of similar people who just checked out of modern life and were living isolated , back in remote area. But it seldom turns out like that
Thank you much Steve!!!!!
Don't go anywhere without an
personal location Beacon
I’d never go hiking alone or without a weapon or a compass .Im happy in my leather chair.My condolences to the families and friends ❤
People can die just being in high altitude areas. People come up here to where I live We are just 2hrs outside of Disneyland people come here to ski etc but they don't realize how dangerous the altitude is they become so nauseous / sick they think they have the flu. They don't realize they can have a stroke simply from the altitude and dehydration as it is so dry. We have our emergency room constantly filled with visitors who have overdone it or simply have altitude sickness to the point that they need to leave massive headaches can cause an embolism in the brain. Some people find themselves with lack of oxygen when they're up here. Since They don't understand what's wrong with themselves and if they come here for a week's vacation can find themselves weak unable to breathe etc and they don't realize it's a serious situation They just think they're a little bit sick from something. If they bring an elderly relative they have put that person in danger if that person has any form of COPD etc. People don't realize you can't just go on vacation and think you're going to be fine going to a different altitude. Luckily we have pretty good search and rescue and a lot of times people aren't lost for very long but when they are yes we have mountain lions. We have bears. We also have coywolves unfortunately created by wolf owners who let them free when they lost their home up here and they mated with the coyotes. Extremely beautiful animals but they have no fear of humans. They would have no problem dragging a body off because they need to feed themselves. We have an extreme wilderness area right outside of a high density urban suburban area that is filled with people completely oblivious to what it is like in the wilderness They didn't grow up around it they hardly ever go to it when they are kids and then they decide let's pack up the car and go up there and spend the weekend because they can get there in less than 2 hours from any point in our part of the state within four counties and they're the largest counties in the state with highest density. So I guess the message is altitude is a very dangerous thing It can kill you in an instant with an embolism to the brain You can become very ill in the lungs and not really realize that you've got an embolism there You can throw blood clots because your blood is not working properly so please be very cautious when you come up here We are over a mile high and yeah you might want to ride your mountain box too but who wants to end up in the emergency room Make sure that everybody you bring here pays attention to their health keeps hydrated and doesn't go off trail.
I worked and lived in Yellowstone National Park at 7800ft elevation, coming from a city at 400ft elevation. They taught us about altitude sickness our first day. Glad I took it to heart. So many people ended up sick and in the hospital. Especially the alcohol drinkers. Several helicopter worthy. It has become a habit now to hydrate regularly.
The story of the hiker, who's trail name was "Inch Worm," only goes to prove that all cell phone providers should put in towers along the AT so all texts and calls for emergency assistance can go through. Think of how many lost hikers this would prevent this sort of thing. Every hiker, group or solo, would benefit from this. Not everyone can afford a satellite phone. Also, it would be safety requirement to have each hike have a GPS tracker on their person to aid in locating and rescue, or recovery, of each hiker. The National Park and Forest service could give or loan them out and make it a requirement for each hiker to aid searchers in finding them. In today's advance technology world this shouldn't be a problem. I've hiked on the John Muir Trail and in the Grand Canyon South Rim to North Rim and other smaller hikes in my lifetime and would have welcomed this easily carried device on my hikes. In future, I hope the USForest Service and National Park Service implements this sort of service. Imagine all the lives would be saved or recovered.
Doesn't this kind of take all of the adventure out of this adventurous activity? Sorry but I would like to leave some things without training wheels on Earth.
@@anthonypanozzo9319 maybe, but I know some of the forest services require the trackers if you cross country ski in the back country or in areas prone to avalanche.
@@lindabriggs5118there are towers right by where she was. It all depends on the topography. Up high or in town no problem, walk a hundred feet in the woods and a mini valley can cause the signal to be blocked. She was behind Sugarloaf Ski Mt. There’s probably a tower at the peak if not there’s towers around there. Kennebago Mt for one. I’m all over that area, signals come and go.
Shouldn't be up to the person to protect themselves, don't go if you can't even provide yourselves with the basics
All cell phones are becoming satellite in the next few years so unfortunately they wouldn't consider extra connectivity in the area.
Hello, it has been a while since I've been here but I wanted to give everyone here an update on how things are. Things are going well my wife and our 4 children are currently on vacation in the North Carolina mountains so long story short last week my Twin daughters turned 5 months old. Also, my sister is 5 months with pregnant with her 2nd child, she'll be doing her ultrasound next week so very soon she will be doing her gender reveal so I'm looking forward to that.
I guess I am new here, who are you, lol
Some of these people should of never been in the wilderness
If someone is THAT awful at directions yet still INSISTS on going it alone…..what TF….I’d say they knew it would happen and didn’t bother her that much 🤷🏼♀️ if she was THAT worried you’d think she’d learn all the skills she could regarding directions and using a compass 🤷🏼♀️🙄 Just don’t get it. She’s bad enough she got lost only go a short way for the trail to pee, but apparently even knowing she was awful at directions ….she wasn’t super careful noticing landmarks when she left the trail and not very careful going BACK to the trail. Is the trail THAT busy you must leave really far into the forest to pee? Positive it isn’t, so why did she knowing her zero sense of direction? who knows.
All I can say is I hope her loved ones didn’t suffer too much for her stubborn plans to continue even knowing her bad ability to hike without getting lost. Imo if simply going off trail gets her lost, She was doomed to be lost on this trip alone at some point along the trail anyways. Our arrogance and overconfidence in things kills us over and over again. Least she wasn’t young with her life ahead of her. Better than dying in a nursing home.
She just had very little respect for the trails and those who hike them...likely thinking anyone can do it “it’s just walking”. Of all the stories, hers is always the most frustrating to me, because I know someone like her and she has the same attitude towards activities that require knowledge, skill and experience
Imagine being her husband or friend and reading this though. Would you say this to their face? Not everyone’s as smart as you evidently are.
What an absolutely heartless comment. Being unkind doesn't make you more knowledgeable or better than her.
At least she wasn't young? What kind of comment is that?
I hope you learn to be kinder and maybe, next time, don't write what comes in to your brain. Or at least stop and think, Hey maybe someone who loves her will read this and maybe I shouldn't be a jerk.
She had been hiking for years. Don't speak on what you know nothing about. @@bobbeezel2593
Sun rises in east sets in west north side of trees have moss and a smoky fire is most things that will save you.
Many years ago I was Jeep off-roading and took what I thought was a trail but wasn't and got lost and then dropped down 20 feet into a creak and injured my left knee so really couldn't walk. I have grown up in the woods and was in law enforcement at the time and still am so I know how to survive but I admit I was very scared. By a miracle I got a signal on my phone and called 911 but they had a hard time finding me and thankfully I was armed and was able to fire into the air to guide them in but I still had to stumble part way too rescue personnel. The worst part was the cost of having my Jeep recovered. I never went out alone again.
Thanks for that story. Good lesson for all.
So interesting, but so sad
Im sorry but Geraldines story is soooo frustrating. Why in the world would ANYONE let that woman go on such a long hike alone like that?! and why did she just give up?? she was just camping out for a month instead of trying to find her way back. Why did she go so far off the trail to use the bathroom to where she couldnt find her way back?? like wtf she had a working flashlight and everything im so confused she didnt have to die its almost like she wanted to
Don't hike alone and leave a route that you intend to take with a responsible body.
They have chosen to all go by themselves. Always take a buddy as they can get help
Why do people hike alone???
Too confident. They also like the time alone and the challenge. I hope others learn not to go alone from their mistakes.
Because it's peaceful
I do, for the quiet and solitude. I've yet to do a solo overnight though.
Edit: I, as a woman from a large city, also feel safer in the woods alone. Sad but true.
I hiked alone in Haiti, Yucatan, and The Everglades. I was lucky. Never again unarmed. Times have changed!😎
I can tell you..If you're in condition, you feel invincible. I hiked many miles solo in the Rockies with no fear...I look back and think how the good Lord watched over me.
Steve! So glad your back :) You’re a great narrator! I miss how at the end of the video you say “tell your animals I said “‘hello”’ :)
We have GPS in our phones now. Use it if you go out . Location service is great too. You will be found.
😘 be safe out there
Seems as though all of these people died doing what they enjoyed perhaps most. Their souls were long gone from their physical bodies before discovered. We all should be so lucky. I would welcome passing on while experiencing an extended fishing and metal detecting trip in some remote place. Sadly, none of us get to choose how we go. I will toast to these individuals tonight while hoping they are at peace in spirit until they next wake...
I couldn’t watch this video more than half way through. Sad that this 66 year old lady simply was lost off the Appalachian trail and probably died from dehydration. She should’ve never been out there alone.
With all the incredible technology at our finger tips now, NO person should be allowed onto a mountain trail without a personal locator beacon. They are the size of a cell phone and the administrators of the trails could simply offer them at discounted rental rates to help recover costs associated with recovering those lost or injured.
“Allowed”
Yeah, that’s going to be a problem. It would be impossible to regulate this. Great idea but people love their freedom. We all die. It may be hard to hear about someone going missing on a trail but in reality they have reached their final destination. We all reach it. It’s just a matter of when. Can’t save everyone. Not everyone wants to be saved.
These state parks have rules printed on reams of paper telling us what we can and can't do in THEIR parks, whats one more with the actual benefit of saving lives? I know as soon as I said the people actually using said parks might have to pay the rental there would be pushback. Then let the state provide it as a free service, not like they aren't collecting billions in taxes every year anyway, right? The last thing I'll say is this, America doe's not need nor want a Mount Aokigahara. Look it up. @@joebeezy9471
I am always amazed at the people who go hiking by themselves. As a Girl Scout, we were told to always go in pairs, or groups, so that if someone got hurt, lost, or trapped, her partner could go for help.
Thank you for saying Willamette correctly!! Woot!
I lived in Portland, Oregon for about 10 years 😉
@@MissingPersonsMysteries Salem here. 😊
A girl I knew in High School disappeared while climbing a 14k footer. She was with her boyfriend and another guy, who both had to turn around, but she was determined to summit. She never returned to the car. SAR was unable to locate her. Several years later, a hunter found her backpack, phone, wallet and a few bones. An acquaintance of mine from work also lost his life shortly after reaching the summit of another 14k mountain in Colorado after a fall from a 35 to 40 ft cliff. Dont solo hike 14k mountains.
Poor Geraldine 😢
Another great episode! Thank you Steve. 😎
Thanks for watching!