Brilliant scene. This shows the naiveness of Peter and overconfidence of Strange. And Strange's spell was actually supposed to affect MCU only, but it affected the multiverse due to multiverse becoming free from sacred timeline at the end of Loki final episode.
Just shut up fanboyy. It shows the generosity of strange and absolute greediness of peter. And why would strange not have trust in his skill. He has already performed that spell several times in the past. Didn't you watch the movie? Strange literally handled 5 interruptions in the spell before he lost his control. That is the skill level he possesses. He has the right to trust his skill. But peter surely doesn't have the right to exploit anyone's generosity.
I mean the last two phases have been revolving around the idea of the Multiverse either collapsing or breaking the barriers that keep them confined. @@randytruong6621
Strange doesn't realize that the multiverse has been freed (after Loki). If he had known about it, he would have never suggested this, because the spell is multiversal
@@Japhu don't be so sure. The multiverse exists because of Nexus events, caused by different outcomes which are caused by different choices in life. When He Who Remains explained that his variant discovered other universes, that's when the TVA has not* been established yet, that's why there are other worlds. They then go to war, and this one Kang used Alioth to wipe them all out, leaving only one reality for him to control. He built the TVA to be a gardener, to keep the branches from growing, by stopping Nexus events. Did you watch Everything Everywhere All at Once? There is a visualization of the multiverse through a monitor, it showed branches, branches*, and one of those branches is an animated world. Do you not see? Even a far off animated world can be a branch. Not a branch in time, but a branch of possibility. All worlds, Tobey's world, Sylvie's world, Aligator Loki's world, Boastful Loki with a different skin tone's world, they are all What Ifs. The TVA can traverse the worlds of these different Lokis, they for sure can traverse Tobey and Andrew's worlds, through the branch of, say it with me, possibility. Tobey and Andrew are the same category as Sylvie and Aligator Loki
In an avengers comic they were on a plane about to crash and the so called master of the mystic arts had no way to stop it.yet carries the title master of mystic arts.what a joke.
Strange doesn't realize that the multiverse has been freed (after Loki). If he had known about it, he would have never suggested this, because the spell is multiversal
@@yudhazacharias9377if I recall correctly the ending of Loki S1 (when Sylvia kills He Who Remains) is directly connected to what happens in NWH, correct me if I’m wrong but that means we have Sylvia to thank for ruining the spell (and bringing back our childhoods)
@@marcushojunyong The one who ruined the spell is Peter. The spell was already multiversal to begin with. Strange would never use this idea if he had known the multiverse is free. Now because the multiverse is free, the impact caused by the spell is bigger now, so Sylvie didn't ruin it, she made the impact bigger, while Peter ruined it. Had the Loki finale not happen, the spell would only affect the MCU, because the multiverse wouldn't be out there. Now if the Loki finale happened, and Peter hadn't ruin the spell, everyone in every universe would forget Peter Parker is Spider-Man, including Tobey's MJ. But because Peter ruined the spell, the spell pulled everyone who knows Peter is Spidey from every universe to the MCU, its origin point, including Tobey and Andrew because they have the keyword "Peter is Spidey" in their heads too. To fix this, the last spell is to make everyone in every universe forget Peter Parker. The last spell negated the first spell, sending everyone home, but it also influenced everyone who's not Peter Parker in every universe, wiping Peter from their minds
“Ok Peter, this is a very powerful spell that will make everyone forget. Before I cast it, is there anyone you don’t want to forget you are Spider-Man?” “Yes! You, My girlfriend MJ, my buddy Ned, my Aunt May, Happy and everyone before Beck.” “Very good, let’s begin.” *Directed by Jon Watts*
Yes exactly what I'm trying to explain about it It's completely strange's fault he's arrogant then(as a doctor/surgeon) and now too(as a sorcerer)...here I support wong 💯% 'cuz he's not worthy of becoming sorcerer supreme tq very much Thanos for dusting strange away.... This is proof one of many mistakes strange done and he didn't even accepting his mistake and implying all on Peter...
@@Jarvis-lz4hr Yes, I do agree that Strange should've warned Peter prior to casting the spell, given Wong clearly warned that the spell travelled through dark and unknown realities. But still, it was Peter's fault majorly as while casting the spell, Strange gave warnings several times to not tamper with the spell, but he continued to do it.
@@manaskumar6481 No strange didn't told any thing about spell prior Even when wong said it's such a dangerous spell strange just said no problem like casually so what would peter do Honestly if I was peter., 1) didn't know how magic works 2) don't even know about magic as ned knew 3) mainly age., immature, willing to sacrifice himself too... No matter what!! So., the only best wizard he knew is strange since he is like no problem chilling... What should he do? If strange behave normal and not overconfident peter would've definitely ask him for if there are any instructions to follow before casting spell... So Here I'll always on side of wong and peter...
@@Jarvis-lz4hr I meant that while casting the spell, as Peter was yelling over the names of the individuals that should remember Peter Parker as Spiderman, Strange did warn him not to tamper with the spell anymore. Kindly review the scene again if you have any doubts on that. I agree that Peter Parker is just a minor and couldn't be held entirely liable for the damage caused in the entire multiverse, but there was a little bit of fault on his side! 😉
@@manaskumar6481 Absolutely not As u said., strange did warned him but he did when he started/he just said a line and started spell so there's no time not even a second.... Plus what pisses me off is strange didn't even accept his mistake., such a egoistic., Ofcourse I acknowledge that peter should've asked about the instructions when wong said about spell to strange as his duty to warn his juniors as he is sorcerer supreme And peter after spell is guilty but strange is not even accepting his mistake and pushing all on peter ....
I was thinking the same thing. That'd have been so much better. They did it Similar to what happened to Strange in the first movie but simply a clout shot of him in the street and then moving back to show he was teleported and now he's disappointed.
Strange doesn't realize that the multiverse has been freed (after Loki). If he had known about it, he would have never suggested this, because the spell is multiversal
@@danielhindson1840 yup, that would work. And the whole multiverse would not know who Mysterio is. Remember, it's multiversal, Wong says it is, and the proof is that it is able to pull Tobey and the others to the MCU
@@danielhindson1840 I'm not sure if that would've worked. Sure Quentin would've been forgotten, but I'm sure people would probably be like "hey do you remember who revealed that Peter Parker was spider man? No I don't."
Dr Strange had successfully changed the parameters of the spell 3 times. It was only during the 4th time that the spell got out of control. So, instead of choosing Ned, Peter should have chosen Happy to remember that he is Spiderman. After all, Happy is the person who gives Peter access to Tony Stark's tech after Tony's death. It wouldn't have harmed Peter at all if Ned had forgotten that he was Spiderman. Very poor choice from Peter's side!
The main poor decision was not thinking this through having a list of those people he knows that still remember that he's Spider-Man. Or just have everyone forget about Mysterio. As simple as that
If you notice from Part 1, all the troubles were caused by Peter himself, showing foolishness and immaturity, part 1 was weak and couldn't finish Toomes right away, part 2 gave EDITH to Mysterio, and part 3 ruined Strange spell without thinking clearly about
Very good explanation......... This is the reason i dont like Tom Holland spiders ....as its about suits & tech ................ T.Maguire was all about brainy-spiderman in all his 3 movies
Stephen is still kinda arrogant, of course he wouldn't consider that Peter needs some explaining of the spell. He was just happy he gets to cast a powerful spell and help a fellow Avenger out, not considering that he's a kid and may not understand the consequences of said spell.
Or if Peter thought ahead of time and just told Dr Strange who he wanted to remember who spider man is. Also Peter should have stopped at like the 4th person because he could clearly see the spell was getting our of hand.
I like how they just gave up with Strange slipping and kept it in since Benedict Cumberbatch couldn’t stop slipping when he landed with the wires. Most films and series insist on keeping characters “perfect,” so slips, and coughs and stuff like that is never kept in.
If it were me as Doctor Strange casting the spell to clear Peter’s name, I would’ve asked him if he has any friends and families that knows him as spider man and make sure they don’t lose their memories.
I think leaving it at just Ned and MJ would've been fine. I think he could've just told Happy his real name is Peter and retold Aunt May since she started working with "Spider-Man" in the last film.
Even though a lot of people give this scene hate i really feel like this scene in a lot of ways really shows the kinda character that Peter Parker is. He may be a brilliant scientist but he's also just a kid. He's a kid that makes mistakes. He may want to be like Tony Stark and look up to him but at the end of the day he's niave and stupid. I'm not saying it gives him a pass on messing up the spell but at the same time that's just the character that Peter is and THAT'S what makes him so relatable as a hero. The fact that he's not perfect and he does make stupid mistakes. Heroes aren't perfect. They may be able to do incredible, amazing things but they also mess up...sometimes really really bad. Superheroes may be incredible and amazing but their also not perfect.
Peter really should have thought carefully about his decision to use mind-altering magic before he went to Doctor Strange in the first place. Even if he knew very little about magic, he still should have thought about how things might get worse if you use magic. You'd think that when Dr Strange said "It won't turn back time, but at least people will forget you were ever Spider-Man", Peter would have immediately realized his friends will be under the spell too since Strange never said it would only apply to those who found out when his identity was outed. Also as Strange later pointed out, Peter could have just asked the boarders of MIT to reconsider his Ned and MJ's applications beforehand. And even if he can't convince them, he can still apply to a different college. The whole memory-wiping spell was unnecessary in the first place
2:33 I don’t have the Time Stone anymore. And May The Infinity Stones rest in peace. (I’m still heartbroken after finding out that the TVA uses the stones as paperweights)
If you count the times that Peter changed the spell it is five times: 1) MJ 2) Ned 3) Aunt May 4) Happy 5) Everyone who knew before Mysterio So Strange put himself in there.
Peter, even after being warned several times and floating off the ground amidst a Spell going absolutely haywire because of him, goes OUT OF HIS WAY to continue meddling with it with his nitpicky changing by the second conditions. Definitely a Teenager.
Peter was solely focused on the results and cared little about the method. As seen Peter didn't even research the mundane methods to handle the problem before asking Strange to mess with time or allowing a memory spell to be used. Strange and Wong both presumed that magic was Peter's last chance. So, sorry to say it, Strange's lack of explanation doesn't mean Peter couldn't have asked questions, verified, or more. In fact, in this case, Peter should have verified that he and Strange both knew the requirements. The responsibility is not solely on one or the other but on the person asking is expected to be clear in their request.
When Doctor Strange said that his spell had been changed six times I was excited to see the Sinister Six but unfortunately only five villains appeared later while Venom only appeared in the post-credits scene.
Dr. Strange really should have shut that spell down as soon as Peter suddenly mentioned he wanted MJ to be exempt from the spell. Talking it through was clearly essential at that point. But then it’d be a very short Spider-Man movie.
Normally after you accept the terms and conditions, you can specify where the program is installed and the manner it should be installed. That didn’t happen here, as Strange just decided to start casting the spell.
Why couldn’t they just cast a spell to make everyone forget about Mysterio, Jameson, the Daily Bugle, everything they’ve said, and everything they WILL say about Spider Man?
That's.... what they actually tried to do, I mean how do you make the world forget who Spider-Man is without making them forget what Mysterio and JJJ said?
I still don't understand how Doctor strange blamed Peter when all he had to do was make a clear understanding of the spell before it was made. He's the magic guy he should know that being specific with spells is what makes them work correctly. Peters a newbie. If I had been doing the spell it would have been really easy to ask Peter exactly what he wants written down in a single simple sentence.
Actually, Strange is right. In order to have a good spell, it is better to let everyone in the group follow the spell. It might cause a problem, when you choose some of the people not to follow the spell, while others have to follow. Stability is the main problem. That's why be careful what you wish for.
6:59 Can't be both. Trying to live two life, be nice but influential. If you play nice, you don't interfere with other. If you play influential, you always interfere with someone.
I just realised that when Dr Strange gets mad at the end, it’s not for the reason Peter wanted the spell cast in the first place. It wasn’t to get into college it was cause their lives were a mess since everyone knew he was Spider-Man
Why did Strange say that Peter changed the spell six times? I counted five times like Peter: 1) MJ 2) Ned 3) Aunt May 4) Happy 5) "Basically everyone who knew I was Spiderman should still know!" So what's the sixth change?
Did anyone notice that there were 5 spell rings around strange and Peter when strange stopped the spell as he changed the spell 5 times. And there are a total of 5 villains from the multiverse who come. 1 ring for each villain
@@HUNTtheTRUTH1 Venom from his own universe is a hero and because of his multiversal connection to other symbiotes across the multiverse share their memories, his knowledge about spiderman brought him to the mcu.
Makes me wonder how Tony himself would have reacted to this, first to Peter not taking his exposed identity well. As Tony let it out from the beginning of his superhero sagas, thus having the knowledge of what to expect and giving Peter pointers of how to overcome it. Probably had some great secrets hiding places for him and his friends to hide at till the chaos dies down. And then Strange making it worse cause of his lack of foresight not predicting that perhaps Peter needed someone to talk to him through his ordeal, instead if of ways to use this as if it was just another day practicing spells irresponsibly. Of course both are going to picker back and forth, Tony had his moments before where he too got egotistical with his capabilities but Tony had learned over time how those poor decisions affects those around him than he is credited to have learned.
I think Tony would have been very understanding of Peter's desire to have his identity private. Tony announced his to the whole world but, he was already a grown man at that point, and he was already very used to things like paparazzi and being in the spotlight before he ever invented the Iron Man armor. I think the fault for it goes to Strange, personally. Yes, Peter should have shut up when Strange told him to but, as the so called responsible adult of the two, and the only one of them that knows anything about magic, he should have explained to Peter what he was going to do before he even started casting that spell, so the two of them could figure out what it is they're trying to accomplish, and so Peter would understand the actual risks involved.
just like the phrase goes: "Tony is always learning from his mistakes" and that is why don't tell anyone about your secret identity, otherwise your enemies will know about you, your family ties, your friends and you would be surrounded by a bunch of people following you and not giving you enough space of your own.
I like that the MCU creative team, knew it was good for a father son dynamic to keep going with Peter, Tony Stark can't be there for him, so Dr Strange takes on the role, and it's great to watch it unfold,
Everyone pause at 2:46 and at 2:57. Continue to flip between these two frames of Dr. Strange’s face. (The shot/frame at 2:46 seems to have taken place during principal photography. Whereas the shot at 2:57 was taken during reshoots). When I watched this movie, I thought his face looked “strange” for some parts of the film and especially this part. It seems as though there were reshoots and a few very minor (but noticeable) inconsistencies squeaked through to the final cut. His wig isn’t the same; you could check the sideburns and how they seem to cover his ear differently. His beard isn’t the same; you could see how it was shaved differently on the left side of his face (our left as the viewer). And generally it seems as though the makeup isn’t the same; we see more of his eye wrinkles later. Idk if it’s just me or his widow’s peak is a little more prominent in the reshoots. His eyebrows are less full in the reshoots. The lighting just looks “flatter” on his person (almost like it was shot in a studio booth with a green screen) for example take a look at HIS right shoulder (our left, as the viewer) and you could see the cloak looks like cgi or something because of how flat the lighting is. Idk if I’m going crazy but I haven’t mentioned everything that looks different.
spiderman in the comics wouldve went with the original spell, he wouldve done everything in his power to prevent anyone from finding out spiderman and peter were the same person, including his team, family, and friends.
@@tomcat9761 because it was the only way left to fix it, not because he wanted everyone to forget that he was spiderman including his friends and family and team
If it really happened then mysterio would have died for nothing the current situation is like though he is dead he still had the last laugh if this happened he would have totally lost
Yes they both screwed up but it's perfectly within charachter for both that it happened the way it did. Peter is extremely anxious and overwhelmed by everything happening to him so he's not thinking straight, while Strange has almost as big of an ego as Tony and always has to be the one in control as explained in Doctor strange 2. So we have this situation where an overwhelmed teenager is asking the adult in the room for help and the adult assumes he has the perfect answer without explaining what it'll do once casted to Peter. Both of them realize their mistakes and grow from them with Strange even carrying that into his own movie with how he interacts with America Shavez. He still had to learn to let go of the knife but he's much better at communicating with kids and listening too.
I am confused why people think Peter is a fault for the spell going wrong, when it came down to Strange not asking questions on who should remain in the know how. Let’s take a look at the scenes in detail: 1:47 Peter tells strange that Mysterio has up ended his life and the people around him, and is curious about time travel as a solution. 2:06 Strange says no cause it’s a bad idea 2:15 Peter clarifies its more about those around him being hurt by being in proximity to him. 2:48 strange gets the idea to use a forgetting spell to solve the issue, and specifies it will help with the identity issue. The phrasing of it makes it seem as if he already plans to delete Peter from existence already, which is a really weird thing to conclude considering the need of two identities. Peter fails to realize how extreme Strange is planning to take this. 3:58 Strange talks to Peter for a while about making the spell and the environment. 4:21 Strange asks if he is ready. Peter assumes Strange had his original problem in mind (1:47) and kinda threw the thought in the back of his head. 4:26 Strange jumps into the spell with no questions and says his goodbyes, which is confusing. He knew about Peter before Mysterio, how would he forget? Imagine if you hired an exterminator to catch a rat in your kitchen and they decided to walk up to your house with a flame thrower. You are going to want to stop that.
I agree doing this spell is grave mistake from doctor strange in 1st place. He should have refused that. But Peter is real culprit because 1) messing with strange's spell. 2) stopping strange, when he just want to make things correct and send every creature back into their universe. 3) capturing the man who can do everything correct and Risking stability of whole multiverse. For these mistakes, he got the right punishment like 1) his aunt died 2) every one forget his identity
I agree with Dr. Strange on this. Spider-Man fought alongside with the Avengers against Thanos and yes his secret got out after defeating Mysterio. The least Peter Parker can do is plead his case with the college board with his friends before going to Dr Strange for a memory wipe spell. Sometimes the right path isn’t always they easiest path. That’s why at the end, Peter sacrificed not just his secret identity but his whole identity to protect the multiverse. That’s the move a true hero.
For a doctor, Steven sure didn't care to establish the goals of this spell without casting it. Imagine doing a surgery and you've opened this guy up trying to remove his left kidney only for him to tell you that he actually needs a liver transplant. Pretty strange that he did not think about that, especially because he was aware that people who knew his secret identity before Mysterio would also forget.
Dr Strange was the true villain in this movie and responsible for everything that happened. They wrote him to be an irresponsible moron, when he's supposed to be smart. The real Dr Strange would have told Peter that most of the Avengers already deal with their identity known to the public, and that Peter would have do the same. He would have never agreed to cast some crazy world-changing memory spell just to fix the personal problems of a single teenager, Avenger or not.
"Strange would've just let an innocent kid and his friends suffer instead of thinking 'Oh, I can fix this' as Strange does literally all the time. A kid who Strange indirectly killed. A kid who personally saved Strange's life. It's not like Strange knows exactly what it's like to have his life ruined by something out of his control."
Dr Strange is no villain. He was just trying to help Peter and stop the multiversal crisis from getting out of hand. Just because he went ahead with it immediately doesn't make him a bad guy since he was only taking measures before anything gets worse
*Dr Strange:* Everyone should forget peter parker is spiderman, including me. *Peter:* Can you make the spell to make everyone forgot but make the people I know still remember me *Dr Strange:* Hmm okay 🙂
Why would Strange sacrifice himself also to forget who Peter Parker is? I get that changing in the middle of a casting spell is dangerous but they really should have discussed about it before casting the spell so that he, peter's friends, aunt may and happy will still remember him.
i like that Stephen Strange just pops out from Marvel movie to Marvel movie: the Thor movie, the Spiderman movie, the Scarlet Witch movie.... I hope Marvel extends it to a whole Dr. Strange Cinematic Universe
"Now, Peter, before I cast this spell, I need to explain a few things." "Yes, sir." "This is a dangerously delicate spell, so it is VERY important that it not be altered or interrupted while I cast it. It could mean very massive repercussions and bring dangerous people from other universes to ours." "Oh, man. I understand, sir." "Now, are you absolutely sure you want everyone to forget that you're Spider-Man?" "Yes. Well, everyone except for you and the rest of the Avengers, my Aunt May, my girlfriend MJ, my buddy Ned Leeds, and Happy Hogan." "Is that it?" "Yes, sir." "Are you sure you're sure?" "Yes, sir." "Very good. Now stand over there, and do not say a word." *ROLL CREDITS*
The best thing could've been that just make the world forget who Mysterio is! Problem SOLVED. (Although after Loki S2 Finale, I don't know what result would be of this after the spell is casted given the multiverse is free!)
I know Strange and Peter were reckless here for the sake of plot but in terms of whose fault this is, it's Strange's. He's the sorcerer and adult who should know better. He didn't even warn Peter of the full capabilities of the spell, and also had three chances to stop it completely to talk to Peter and redo it, but he kept going despite Peter changing his mind.
peter: Basically everyone Who Knows Im Spiderman BEFORE Should Still Know Me: but everyone Knew Before So Everyone Would Still Know Whos Spiderman's identity
I love how after he knows he didn't even call Strange doesn't really snaps at Peter he only recaps how bad he messed up and make him feel like a total moron 😂
Considering something or someone is hunting down America Chavez in "Dr. Strange in The Multiverse of Madness", I think it'd be much better if the three hour forgetting spell is established as something that can make people forget an element about a person's life, but not the person themself i.e. Peter Parker is Spider-Man, but not Peter Parker's existence in and of itself. It should still be three hours, as Dr. Strange could still, theoretically, make Thanos forget the time stone on the planet he travels to, in "Avengers: Infinity War". Just to clarify, as I said before, the spell only works on people (not objects) and a person must be within the spell caster's eyesight for it to work. *Edit:* Whoops! I just realised the spell can be applied to America via a "Forget America is Wanda's key to her children" spell. I think it would be best if the spell is attempted, but there's simply not enough time to complete it.
2:44
strange actually seems genuinely upset for parker and u can tell he really cares about him from this reaction alone
until the end scene...lol
Strange and Wong have some of the best chemistry in the MCU.
Wong needs a miniseries, at least. He's had to deal with a flotilla of crazy crap,
Brilliant scene. This shows the naiveness of Peter and overconfidence of Strange. And Strange's spell was actually supposed to affect MCU only, but it affected the multiverse due to multiverse becoming free from sacred timeline at the end of Loki final episode.
Does that mean the comic universe was altered by this spell?
@@Deadchannel547 yeah possibly theoretically
Just shut up fanboyy.
It shows the generosity of strange and absolute greediness of peter.
And why would strange not have trust in his skill. He has already performed that spell several times in the past.
Didn't you watch the movie? Strange literally handled 5 interruptions in the spell before he lost his control. That is the skill level he possesses. He has the right to trust his skill.
But peter surely doesn't have the right to exploit anyone's generosity.
lol this is such overkill statement assuming hard on this connecting to loki
I mean the last two phases have been revolving around the idea of the Multiverse either collapsing or breaking the barriers that keep them confined. @@randytruong6621
"Don't get me started on Dr. Strange and the little nerd back on Earth-19999!! "
Hey 2099 how u doin
I love When Spider man 2099 says that in Across the spider verse
Strange doesn't realize that the multiverse has been freed (after Loki). If he had known about it, he would have never suggested this, because the spell is multiversal
There was always a multiverse, it's just that after Loki there was no sacred timeline which prevented evil Kang variants.
@@Japhu you're implying that it's a sacred timeline for the multiverse and not a sacred timeline for one world?
@@yudhazacharias9377 yeah exactly
@@Japhu don't be so sure. The multiverse exists because of Nexus events, caused by different outcomes which are caused by different choices in life. When He Who Remains explained that his variant discovered other universes, that's when the TVA has not* been established yet, that's why there are other worlds. They then go to war, and this one Kang used Alioth to wipe them all out, leaving only one reality for him to control. He built the TVA to be a gardener, to keep the branches from growing, by stopping Nexus events. Did you watch Everything Everywhere All at Once? There is a visualization of the multiverse through a monitor, it showed branches, branches*, and one of those branches is an animated world. Do you not see? Even a far off animated world can be a branch. Not a branch in time, but a branch of possibility. All worlds, Tobey's world, Sylvie's world, Aligator Loki's world, Boastful Loki with a different skin tone's world, they are all What Ifs. The TVA can traverse the worlds of these different Lokis, they for sure can traverse Tobey and Andrew's worlds, through the branch of, say it with me, possibility. Tobey and Andrew are the same category as Sylvie and Aligator Loki
He should never have agreed to doing it period. It was never worth the risk even had he known of the events in Loki or not.
I find it hilarious that they can cast all kinds of crazy spells but they apparently don't have one that would simply remove snow from the sanctorum
Well...they like the deco 😂
In an avengers comic they were on a plane about to crash and the so called master of the mystic arts had no way to stop it.yet carries the title master of mystic arts.what a joke.
@@drcokepepperwhy didn't bro teleport the plane into an x-axis exit? Bro is dumb af 💀
It was coke party, Stephen was on something
6:35 Loud and clear, Mr. Peterson!
It's mostly Doctor Strange's fault for me. Doctor Strange should've had a conversation with Peter before casting the spell
He should have done that and/or just ignored Peter when he kept intersecting.
Agreed
Strange doesn't realize that the multiverse has been freed (after Loki). If he had known about it, he would have never suggested this, because the spell is multiversal
@@yudhazacharias9377if I recall correctly the ending of Loki S1 (when Sylvia kills He Who Remains) is directly connected to what happens in NWH, correct me if I’m wrong but that means we have Sylvia to thank for ruining the spell (and bringing back our childhoods)
@@marcushojunyong The one who ruined the spell is Peter. The spell was already multiversal to begin with. Strange would never use this idea if he had known the multiverse is free. Now because the multiverse is free, the impact caused by the spell is bigger now, so Sylvie didn't ruin it, she made the impact bigger, while Peter ruined it. Had the Loki finale not happen, the spell would only affect the MCU, because the multiverse wouldn't be out there. Now if the Loki finale happened, and Peter hadn't ruin the spell, everyone in every universe would forget Peter Parker is Spider-Man, including Tobey's MJ. But because Peter ruined the spell, the spell pulled everyone who knows Peter is Spidey from every universe to the MCU, its origin point, including Tobey and Andrew because they have the keyword "Peter is Spidey" in their heads too. To fix this, the last spell is to make everyone in every universe forget Peter Parker. The last spell negated the first spell, sending everyone home, but it also influenced everyone who's not Peter Parker in every universe, wiping Peter from their minds
“Ok Peter, this is a very powerful spell that will make everyone forget. Before I cast it, is there anyone you don’t want to forget you are Spider-Man?”
“Yes! You, My girlfriend MJ, my buddy Ned, my Aunt May, Happy and everyone before Beck.”
“Very good, let’s begin.”
*Directed by Jon Watts*
Yes exactly what I'm trying to explain about it
It's completely strange's fault he's arrogant then(as a doctor/surgeon) and now too(as a sorcerer)...here I support wong 💯% 'cuz he's not worthy of becoming sorcerer supreme tq very much Thanos for dusting strange away....
This is proof one of many mistakes strange done and he didn't even accepting his mistake and implying all on Peter...
@@Jarvis-lz4hr Yes, I do agree that Strange should've warned Peter prior to casting the spell, given Wong clearly warned that the spell travelled through dark and unknown realities.
But still, it was Peter's fault majorly as while casting the spell, Strange gave warnings several times to not tamper with the spell, but he continued to do it.
@@manaskumar6481
No strange didn't told any thing about spell prior
Even when wong said it's such a dangerous spell strange just said no problem like casually so what would peter do
Honestly if I was peter.,
1) didn't know how magic works
2) don't even know about magic as ned knew
3) mainly age., immature, willing to sacrifice himself too... No matter what!!
So., the only best wizard he knew is strange since he is like no problem chilling... What should he do?
If strange behave normal and not overconfident peter would've definitely ask him for if there are any instructions to follow before casting spell...
So Here I'll always on side of wong and peter...
@@Jarvis-lz4hr I meant that while casting the spell, as Peter was yelling over the names of the individuals that should remember Peter Parker as Spiderman, Strange did warn him not to tamper with the spell anymore. Kindly review the scene again if you have any doubts on that.
I agree that Peter Parker is just a minor and couldn't be held entirely liable for the damage caused in the entire multiverse, but there was a little bit of fault on his side! 😉
@@manaskumar6481
Absolutely not
As u said., strange did warned him but he did when he started/he just said a line and started spell so there's no time not even a second....
Plus what pisses me off is strange didn't even accept his mistake., such a egoistic.,
Ofcourse I acknowledge that peter should've asked about the instructions when wong said about spell to strange as his duty to warn his juniors as he is sorcerer supreme
And peter after spell is guilty but strange is not even accepting his mistake and pushing all on peter ....
“ Hi, Doctor Strange. Can you cast a spell to make everyone forget what Mysterio said?"
“ Yes. No problem."
“Thanks!"
End credits
I believe the person has to be present where the spell is made
@@letal2803 Oh right lol. My bad, I didn't learn magic at Kamartaj
@@lonewolf-fq3kc well you should sign up for it.
Alternative:
“Bro you can just tell the people you want to know the truth and fill them in on what they forgot.”
“Oh you’re right lmao okay go ahead”
Jon Watts: We can’t do that?
Peter: Why not?
Jon Watts: Because the rest of the plot needs to happen
Peter: Oh right. Never mind Stephen
Doctor Strange does a good job playing as Benedict Cumberbatch
You mean the other way round?
@@elizabethjacobs9616 You mean the other other way around? Like 360-degree turn kind of around? Don't let his beard fool you.
7:32 I like to imagine that wasnt even a scene. Strange just teleported him there and the doors closed on their own
I was thinking the same thing. That'd have been so much better. They did it Similar to what happened to Strange in the first movie but simply a clout shot of him in the street and then moving back to show he was teleported and now he's disappointed.
Would’ve been hilarious if he Peter said “he didn’t have to teleport me outside”
He did that kind of instant teleportation to Thor, in Thor 3: Ragnarok
Spiderman 2099: "Don't even get me started on Dr Strange and that little nerd back on Earth-19999!"
but that was part of the canon for MCU Peter to know both the blessing and curse of being SpiderMan
Peter and Strange should've discussed the spell process deeper, especially in consequences aspect.
Strange doesn't realize that the multiverse has been freed (after Loki). If he had known about it, he would have never suggested this, because the spell is multiversal
i guess he thought it is not that big a deal because he thought he could contain it fully if things go wrong.
or they should've made the world forget Mysterio and everything he ever said
@@danielhindson1840 yup, that would work. And the whole multiverse would not know who Mysterio is. Remember, it's multiversal, Wong says it is, and the proof is that it is able to pull Tobey and the others to the MCU
@@danielhindson1840 I'm not sure if that would've worked.
Sure Quentin would've been forgotten, but I'm sure people would probably be like "hey do you remember who revealed that Peter Parker was spider man? No I don't."
5:09 When Dr. Strange asks "What is a Ned?" 😂😂
Now I see why Miguel was so pissed lmao
Still, calling Miles an anomaly was uncalled for
@@dnasty312well he is b-
Dr Strange had successfully changed the parameters of the spell 3 times. It was only during the 4th time that the spell got out of control. So, instead of choosing Ned, Peter should have chosen Happy to remember that he is Spiderman. After all, Happy is the person who gives Peter access to Tony Stark's tech after Tony's death. It wouldn't have harmed Peter at all if Ned had forgotten that he was Spiderman. Very poor choice from Peter's side!
The main poor decision was not thinking this through having a list of those people he knows that still remember that he's Spider-Man. Or just have everyone forget about Mysterio. As simple as that
If you notice from Part 1, all the troubles were caused by Peter himself, showing foolishness and immaturity, part 1 was weak and couldn't finish Toomes right away, part 2 gave EDITH to Mysterio, and part 3 ruined Strange spell without thinking clearly about
Very good explanation......... This is the reason i dont like Tom Holland spiders ....as its about suits & tech ................
T.Maguire was all about brainy-spiderman in all his 3 movies
@@dotagamer5925 Yes, I agree with you.
@@glowings26804 except it was only strange´s foolishness
Honestly, things would have gone way different if Stephen just explained Peter about what the spell would do BEFORE actually casting it. 😅
Stephen is still kinda arrogant, of course he wouldn't consider that Peter needs some explaining of the spell. He was just happy he gets to cast a powerful spell and help a fellow Avenger out, not considering that he's a kid and may not understand the consequences of said spell.
Or if Peter thought ahead of time and just told Dr Strange who he wanted to remember who spider man is. Also Peter should have stopped at like the 4th person because he could clearly see the spell was getting our of hand.
@@mariustan9275 sorry, totally strange´s fault. and his is supposed to be the best if them. lololol
well its not exactly hard to comprehend a incantation that causes the entire world to forget who you are.
@@sergeyromanov5560 did bro even watch the movie
Somewhere in different universe, Miguel O'Hara is watching this. Because it WASN'T CANON EVENT
I like to believe it was not Spiderman and Strange who did this, it was Tom Holland and Benedict Cumberbatch
I like how they just gave up with Strange slipping and kept it in since Benedict Cumberbatch couldn’t stop slipping when he landed with the wires. Most films and series insist on keeping characters “perfect,” so slips, and coughs and stuff like that is never kept in.
Honestly I would’ve thought that was intentional because the marvel writers love excessive comedy
If it were me as Doctor Strange casting the spell to clear Peter’s name, I would’ve asked him if he has any friends and families that knows him as spider man and make sure they don’t lose their memories.
I think leaving it at just Ned and MJ would've been fine. I think he could've just told Happy his real name is Peter and retold Aunt May since she started working with "Spider-Man" in the last film.
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Peter's a dumbass
Even though a lot of people give this scene hate i really feel like this scene in a lot of ways really shows the kinda character that Peter Parker is. He may be a brilliant scientist but he's also just a kid. He's a kid that makes mistakes. He may want to be like Tony Stark and look up to him but at the end of the day he's niave and stupid. I'm not saying it gives him a pass on messing up the spell but at the same time that's just the character that Peter is and THAT'S what makes him so relatable as a hero. The fact that he's not perfect and he does make stupid mistakes. Heroes aren't perfect. They may be able to do incredible, amazing things but they also mess up...sometimes really really bad. Superheroes may be incredible and amazing but their also not perfect.
That's why Tony said to him
"And i want you to be better."
its kids in nature. Annoying little brats but its all a growing process
Peter really should have thought carefully about his decision to use mind-altering magic before he went to Doctor Strange in the first place. Even if he knew very little about magic, he still should have thought about how things might get worse if you use magic. You'd think that when Dr Strange said "It won't turn back time, but at least people will forget you were ever Spider-Man", Peter would have immediately realized his friends will be under the spell too since Strange never said it would only apply to those who found out when his identity was outed. Also as Strange later pointed out, Peter could have just asked the boarders of MIT to reconsider his Ned and MJ's applications beforehand. And even if he can't convince them, he can still apply to a different college. The whole memory-wiping spell was unnecessary in the first place
strange´s fault for not explaining, obviously. peter not at fault at all
That's why Goblin said:- be careful what you wish for Parkar💀
@@AndrewGarfield4353 Strange was the one who said that🤦
@@nadimabbas4093 ohh... you almost got me😉
2:33 I don’t have the Time Stone anymore. And May The Infinity Stones rest in peace. (I’m still heartbroken after finding out that the TVA uses the stones as paperweights)
I don’t count Loki as official canon
they didnt have any power outside their own universe anyway
If you count the times that Peter changed the spell it is five times:
1) MJ
2) Ned
3) Aunt May
4) Happy
5) Everyone who knew before Mysterio
So Strange put himself in there.
prob had to include peter parker himself in there so he didnt get forget he was spiderman
That seems to make sense as Strange may have added himself to not forget Peter Parker is Spider-Man.
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“And don't even get me started on Doctor Strange and the little nerd back on Earth-199999!”
Peter, even after being warned several times and floating off the ground amidst a Spell going absolutely haywire because of him, goes OUT OF HIS WAY to continue meddling with it with his nitpicky changing by the second conditions.
Definitely a Teenager.
except it was strange who ruined the spell by not explaining anything to peter, so he is acting like a teenager
Peter was solely focused on the results and cared little about the method. As seen Peter didn't even research the mundane methods to handle the problem before asking Strange to mess with time or allowing a memory spell to be used. Strange and Wong both presumed that magic was Peter's last chance. So, sorry to say it, Strange's lack of explanation doesn't mean Peter couldn't have asked questions, verified, or more. In fact, in this case, Peter should have verified that he and Strange both knew the requirements. The responsibility is not solely on one or the other but on the person asking is expected to be clear in their request.
Miguel’s gonna be pissed!!
Why yes he is
About what?
5:38 happy no im annoyed 😅😂
When Doctor Strange said that his spell had been changed six times I was excited to see the Sinister Six but unfortunately only five villains appeared later while Venom only appeared in the post-credits scene.
7:17 Gotta say i don't blame Dr Strange for being mad.
Same I don’t blame him either because he warned him
@@Isaacthebiggestmoviefan57 and the fact that peter didn't call
Dr. Strange really should have shut that spell down as soon as Peter suddenly mentioned he wanted MJ to be exempt from the spell. Talking it through was clearly essential at that point. But then it’d be a very short Spider-Man movie.
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Spell likly had to be completed before you stopped casting it.
@@redwolf344evidently not given he put it in a glass box.
I think before the spell, Peter should’ve verified what he wanted instead of saying it during the spell
That Fool is annoying af
it was strange´s duty, not peter´s. strange is dumb
@@sergeyromanov5560it's Peter's matter not strange.Strange was doing it for him so he should have been responsible
@@ambu9625 no, it's Strange's matter, both not explaining and playing around with world-breakings spells for trifles
@@sergeyromanov5560 I would tell It's writers mistake for making characters dumb
Peter (like everyone) didn't read the terms and conditions of the spell before he press ACCEPT
Normally after you accept the terms and conditions, you can specify where the program is installed and the manner it should be installed. That didn’t happen here, as Strange just decided to start casting the spell.
5:58 the music is so creepy, knowing in the exact same moment all villains appear in different places.
Why couldn’t they just cast a spell to make everyone forget about Mysterio, Jameson, the Daily Bugle, everything they’ve said, and everything they WILL say about Spider Man?
That's.... what they actually tried to do, I mean how do you make the world forget who Spider-Man is without making them forget what Mysterio and JJJ said?
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I still don't understand how Doctor strange blamed Peter when all he had to do was make a clear understanding of the spell before it was made. He's the magic guy he should know that being specific with spells is what makes them work correctly. Peters a newbie. If I had been doing the spell it would have been really easy to ask Peter exactly what he wants written down in a single simple sentence.
Actually, Strange is right. In order to have a good spell, it is better to let everyone in the group follow the spell.
It might cause a problem, when you choose some of the people not to follow the spell, while others have to follow.
Stability is the main problem.
That's why be careful what you wish for.
6:59 Can't be both. Trying to live two life, be nice but influential. If you play nice, you don't interfere with other. If you play influential, you always interfere with someone.
And don't tell me you thought this thru.
-Iron Man to Spider-man lol
I just realised that when Dr Strange gets mad at the end, it’s not for the reason Peter wanted the spell cast in the first place. It wasn’t to get into college it was cause their lives were a mess since everyone knew he was Spider-Man
Now we know why Miguel Spider-Man hates Peter and Strange
Wait so it's canon in spider verse!?
@@BRUHman096 he said don’t even get me started with Spider-Man earth 19999. That is Tom Holland Spider-Man.
U do realize Tobey and Andrew appeared as archive footage indicating those are canon and those both are canon to MCU@@BRUHman096
@@BRUHman096 Pretty much everything in Marvel is Canon due to the Multiverse.
such an amazing scene. Perfectly captures both characters.
Except that it makes Strange look like a inept magician, like he never learned anything since his first movie.
Why did Strange say that Peter changed the spell six times? I counted five times like Peter:
1) MJ
2) Ned
3) Aunt May
4) Happy
5) "Basically everyone who knew I was Spiderman should still know!"
So what's the sixth change?
I think because Strange changed the spell secretly so he himself could remember Peter
When Doctor Strange says "Nice knowing you, Spider-man" that was the first spell. Then Mj was the second. And so on.
is ANYONE noticing Dr. Strange's mug - "oh for (fox's) sake" ... good lord Benedict
7:19 😂😂😂 every second after this point was hilarious
Did anyone notice that there were 5 spell rings around strange and Peter when strange stopped the spell as he changed the spell 5 times. And there are a total of 5 villains from the multiverse who come. 1 ring for each villain
Six. Venom came through as well but he kept to himself.
@@HUNTtheTRUTH1 Venom from his own universe is a hero and because of his multiversal connection to other symbiotes across the multiverse share their memories, his knowledge about spiderman brought him to the mcu.
Makes me wonder how Tony himself would have reacted to this, first to Peter not taking his exposed identity well. As Tony let it out from the beginning of his superhero sagas, thus having the knowledge of what to expect and giving Peter pointers of how to overcome it. Probably had some great secrets hiding places for him and his friends to hide at till the chaos dies down.
And then Strange making it worse cause of his lack of foresight not predicting that perhaps Peter needed someone to talk to him through his ordeal, instead if of ways to use this as if it was just another day practicing spells irresponsibly. Of course both are going to picker back and forth, Tony had his moments before where he too got egotistical with his capabilities but Tony had learned over time how those poor decisions affects those around him than he is credited to have learned.
I think Tony would have been very understanding of Peter's desire to have his identity private. Tony announced his to the whole world but, he was already a grown man at that point, and he was already very used to things like paparazzi and being in the spotlight before he ever invented the Iron Man armor.
I think the fault for it goes to Strange, personally. Yes, Peter should have shut up when Strange told him to but, as the so called responsible adult of the two, and the only one of them that knows anything about magic, he should have explained to Peter what he was going to do before he even started casting that spell, so the two of them could figure out what it is they're trying to accomplish, and so Peter would understand the actual risks involved.
just like the phrase goes: "Tony is always learning from his mistakes" and that is why don't tell anyone about your secret identity, otherwise your enemies will know about you, your family ties, your friends and you would be surrounded by a bunch of people following you and not giving you enough space of your own.
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I wonder what was Strange's plan after this.
Was he gonna cast the spell, see Peter in front of his face and how was he gonna react?
Miguel's Voice Don't even get me started on Doctor Strange and the lil nerd back on earth 199999
Instead of make everyone to forget spider man and they should make everyone forget who knows mysterio
I like that the MCU creative team, knew it was good for a father son dynamic to keep going with Peter, Tony Stark can't be there for him, so Dr Strange takes on the role, and it's great to watch
it unfold,
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Everyone pause at 2:46 and at 2:57. Continue to flip between these two frames of Dr. Strange’s face. (The shot/frame at 2:46 seems to have taken place during principal photography. Whereas the shot at 2:57 was taken during reshoots). When I watched this movie, I thought his face looked “strange” for some parts of the film and especially this part. It seems as though there were reshoots and a few very minor (but noticeable) inconsistencies squeaked through to the final cut. His wig isn’t the same; you could check the sideburns and how they seem to cover his ear differently. His beard isn’t the same; you could see how it was shaved differently on the left side of his face (our left as the viewer). And generally it seems as though the makeup isn’t the same; we see more of his eye wrinkles later. Idk if it’s just me or his widow’s peak is a little more prominent in the reshoots. His eyebrows are less full in the reshoots. The lighting just looks “flatter” on his person (almost like it was shot in a studio booth with a green screen) for example take a look at HIS right shoulder (our left, as the viewer) and you could see the cloak looks like cgi or something because of how flat the lighting is. Idk if I’m going crazy but I haven’t mentioned everything that looks different.
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spiderman in the comics wouldve went with the original spell, he wouldve done everything in his power to prevent anyone from finding out spiderman and peter were the same person, including his team, family, and friends.
And that's what he did in the end. That's his character development.
@@tomcat9761 because it was the only way left to fix it, not because he wanted everyone to forget that he was spiderman including his friends and family and team
5:10 What is a Nedd lol
6:02 What the heck is the creature made of light who stood up in background when dr strange lost control of the spell? 6:02
Lizard entering from the tasm universe
To be fair, Strange was clearly very happy to cast the spell that brainwashes the entire world
He thought he's helping fellow friend from work. And it gave him a chance to cast a powerful spell, something obviously a powerful wizard would enjoy.
it was like eating a sandwich for him. he cast it before for a pizza party
He could’ve just had everyone forget what Mysterio said in his video message to everyone. 🧐
yeah we know you've watched that video "how it shoudn't of ended".....
@@isa2758 lol link?
If it really happened then mysterio would have died for nothing the current situation is like though he is dead he still had the last laugh if this happened he would have totally lost
If that happened we wouldn't have a movie
This hit different in the cinema, not gonna lie
I don't think Peter has thought it through enough to deal with that
Dr Strange really should have checked if peter wanted to loop anyone else in so this really is his fault
Wong, who is the Sorcerer Supreme, should have forbidden Strange to do the spell and not leave, he should have stayed and not let him do.
Those two had really good chemistry
Is there a cut before Peter says Happy in this scene? Was there any footage missing originally?
Yes they both screwed up but it's perfectly within charachter for both that it happened the way it did. Peter is extremely anxious and overwhelmed by everything happening to him so he's not thinking straight, while Strange has almost as big of an ego as Tony and always has to be the one in control as explained in Doctor strange 2. So we have this situation where an overwhelmed teenager is asking the adult in the room for help and the adult assumes he has the perfect answer without explaining what it'll do once casted to Peter. Both of them realize their mistakes and grow from them with Strange even carrying that into his own movie with how he interacts with America Shavez. He still had to learn to let go of the knife but he's much better at communicating with kids and listening too.
I am confused why people think Peter is a fault for the spell going wrong, when it came down to Strange not asking questions on who should remain in the know how. Let’s take a look at the scenes in detail:
1:47 Peter tells strange that Mysterio has up ended his life and the people around him, and is curious about time travel as a solution.
2:06 Strange says no cause it’s a bad idea
2:15 Peter clarifies its more about those around him being hurt by being in proximity to him.
2:48 strange gets the idea to use a forgetting spell to solve the issue, and specifies it will help with the identity issue. The phrasing of it makes it seem as if he already plans to delete Peter from existence already, which is a really weird thing to conclude considering the need of two identities. Peter fails to realize how extreme Strange is planning to take this.
3:58 Strange talks to Peter for a while about making the spell and the environment.
4:21 Strange asks if he is ready. Peter assumes Strange had his original problem in mind (1:47) and kinda threw the thought in the back of his head.
4:26 Strange jumps into the spell with no questions and says his goodbyes, which is confusing. He knew about Peter before Mysterio, how would he forget?
Imagine if you hired an exterminator to catch a rat in your kitchen and they decided to walk up to your house with a flame thrower. You are going to want to stop that.
Love how the title insinuated that it wasn’t Spider-Man and Dr Strange but their actors tearing the multiverse apart
youre a legend in the game, i love watching your gameplay
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Here folks, is when Dr Strange's character was truly assassinated
I agree doing this spell is grave mistake from doctor strange in 1st place. He should have refused that.
But Peter is real culprit because
1) messing with strange's spell.
2) stopping strange, when he just want to make things correct and send every creature back into their universe.
3) capturing the man who can do everything correct and Risking stability of whole multiverse.
For these mistakes, he got the right punishment like
1) his aunt died
2) every one forget his identity
But it's Doctor Strange's fault for not discussing it with Peter in advance.
I agree with Dr. Strange on this. Spider-Man fought alongside with the Avengers against Thanos and yes his secret got out after defeating Mysterio. The least Peter Parker can do is plead his case with the college board with his friends before going to Dr Strange for a memory wipe spell. Sometimes the right path isn’t always they easiest path. That’s why at the end, Peter sacrificed not just his secret identity but his whole identity to protect the multiverse. That’s the move a true hero.
7:42 I love that line
Strange should have said, "I don't do requests"🙃
For a doctor, Steven sure didn't care to establish the goals of this spell without casting it.
Imagine doing a surgery and you've opened this guy up trying to remove his left kidney only for him to tell you that he actually needs a liver transplant.
Pretty strange that he did not think about that, especially because he was aware that people who knew his secret identity before Mysterio would also forget.
I'll be honest, I also didn't know you could call schools to plead your case if they denied you.
What is a ned😂 5:11
Some kind of cookie!!?
Dr Strange was the true villain in this movie and responsible for everything that happened. They wrote him to be an irresponsible moron, when he's supposed to be smart. The real Dr Strange would have told Peter that most of the Avengers already deal with their identity known to the public, and that Peter would have do the same. He would have never agreed to cast some crazy world-changing memory spell just to fix the personal problems of a single teenager, Avenger or not.
Exactly, I also disliked that scene. The irresponsible behavior of Dr. Strange is so much out of character.
"Strange would've just let an innocent kid and his friends suffer instead of thinking 'Oh, I can fix this' as Strange does literally all the time. A kid who Strange indirectly killed. A kid who personally saved Strange's life. It's not like Strange knows exactly what it's like to have his life ruined by something out of his control."
@@kornbroetchen99 It's the opposite. Peter saved Strange, and Strange owes Peter. So he tried to fix Peter's problem himself.
Dr Strange is no villain. He was just trying to help Peter and stop the multiversal crisis from getting out of hand. Just because he went ahead with it immediately doesn't make him a bad guy since he was only taking measures before anything gets worse
@@kornbroetchen99 This scene is exactly in character. Strange is always overconfident.
Yoda's moral for Spider-Man NWN: Train yourself to let go of everything you fear to lose.
And you know what the deepest part is? He actually DID let go. Unlike Anakin.
“Here’s a bright idea-…”
*Dr Strange:* Everyone should forget peter parker is spiderman, including me.
*Peter:* Can you make the spell to make everyone forgot but make the people I know still remember me
*Dr Strange:* Hmm okay 🙂
I don't think it would've worked that way specifically.
Why would Strange sacrifice himself also to forget who Peter Parker is? I get that changing in the middle of a casting spell is dangerous but they really should have discussed about it before casting the spell so that he, peter's friends, aunt may and happy will still remember him.
i like that Stephen Strange just pops out from Marvel movie to Marvel movie: the Thor movie, the Spiderman movie, the Scarlet Witch movie.... I hope Marvel extends it to a whole Dr. Strange Cinematic Universe
Did someone notice that Wong was able to open a portal without his hands(carrying bags)?
6:17 Sounds like it didn’t work all the Spider-Man’s villains from another dimension
"Now, Peter, before I cast this spell, I need to explain a few things."
"Yes, sir."
"This is a dangerously delicate spell, so it is VERY important that it not be altered or interrupted while I cast it. It could mean very massive repercussions and bring dangerous people from other universes to ours."
"Oh, man. I understand, sir."
"Now, are you absolutely sure you want everyone to forget that you're Spider-Man?"
"Yes. Well, everyone except for you and the rest of the Avengers, my Aunt May, my girlfriend MJ, my buddy Ned Leeds, and Happy Hogan."
"Is that it?"
"Yes, sir."
"Are you sure you're sure?"
"Yes, sir."
"Very good. Now stand over there, and do not say a word."
*ROLL CREDITS*
Avengers AND the Guardians of the Galaxy.
he didn't open the multiverse, Sylvie did
They all are equal . Don't differentiate please ? They all are super heros
As Strange complained about in the first Dr. Strange movie, you really should say the warnings before the spell.
Had a Great Cinema Experience With No Way Home Really looking forward to Spiderman 4
The best thing could've been that just make the world forget who Mysterio is! Problem SOLVED. (Although after Loki S2 Finale, I don't know what result would be of this after the spell is casted given the multiverse is free!)
I know Strange and Peter were reckless here for the sake of plot but in terms of whose fault this is, it's Strange's. He's the sorcerer and adult who should know better. He didn't even warn Peter of the full capabilities of the spell, and also had three chances to stop it completely to talk to Peter and redo it, but he kept going despite Peter changing his mind.
No matter how much he working out the american accent. He still sounded Sherlock to me. And that the best thing
I hope that doctor strange will never have to use that spell again.
He didn't use it to brainwash Wanda in Doctor Strange 2. That was kinda stupid to not take advantage of such a powerful spell.
Strange and so best movie ❤
So he can light fire with his hands but cannot make the snow goes away?!!
peter: Basically everyone Who Knows Im Spiderman BEFORE Should Still Know
Me: but everyone Knew Before So Everyone Would Still Know Whos Spiderman's identity
I love how after he knows he didn't even call Strange doesn't really snaps at Peter he only recaps how bad he messed up and make him feel like a total moron 😂
7:23 that's how the toonverse, animeverse and multiverse crossover was real
Considering something or someone is hunting down America Chavez in "Dr. Strange in The Multiverse of Madness", I think it'd be much better if the three hour forgetting spell is established as something that can make people forget an element about a person's life, but not the person themself i.e. Peter Parker is Spider-Man, but not Peter Parker's existence in and of itself.
It should still be three hours, as Dr. Strange could still, theoretically, make Thanos forget the time stone on the planet he travels to, in "Avengers: Infinity War". Just to clarify, as I said before, the spell only works on people (not objects) and a person must be within the spell caster's eyesight for it to work.
*Edit:* Whoops! I just realised the spell can be applied to America via a "Forget America is Wanda's key to her children" spell. I think it would be best if the spell is attempted, but there's simply not enough time to complete it.