I recently completed my first successful Conquest Hard Iron Man, and it definitely wouldn't have been possible without the Wolfssegners. Having a unit that can usually tank most enemies and usually kill most enemies with enough extra durability to introduce a little room for error was absolutely essential. Keaton is great, and Velouria is a damn monster. The traits are great, the pair ups are great, the flexibility of switching between stones is great, and Better Odds is honestly a handy skill. (And yes, I did have to heavily rely on them specifically, because among the dead was Xander. Counter is lethal. Never forget.) That's just one data point. And it probably takes a bit of steam out of my praise for the class to reveal this was Effie!Velouria with Quick Draw, but still. Couldn't have done it without her, and I was not giving up those stones for Great Knight.
47:30 SKY KNIGHT KEATON IS THE BEST BUILD 👏👏🙌 If you’re aiming to trigger his personal, he loves that class trees luck growth & cap, & Kinshi’s bow access for Anna’s bow for more luck Outside of that little rant, on Rally man’s chapter (a Takumi boss chapter) you have Life & death snipers with Counter, *get them*, on player phase with bows, you straight up have +19 damage off of 3 skills, reclass to Kinshi for mobility & maybe Amaterasu if you want, but honestly those Snipers are powerful as heck You could probably have better units (especially magic ones like Odin/leo/Ophilia/etc) but the fact you could just, *Have* this Sniper is amazing
11:00 Adventurer is a Great capture unit imo, all Bow knights are programmed to be Mercenary promote’s iirc, so the only way you can get a good shining bow unit is from Adventure’s reclassed Plus, I think we have better Adventurer captures then Bow knights? Though, to be Fair I can only remember the double Seal units from Shura’s boss chapter, still, seal Str & Spd is appreciated
I still maintain that Hero is very good. Great stats all around (especially w/ Skl which is amazing), sword/axe access, infantry (no flier eff or beast eff), and even good pair up... that's an insane amount of flexibility.
I think it works for Beruka because of her high skill stat. She's bulkier too, so she can run Killer Axe + Gamble with HP boost/recovery skills for a fun crit tank build.
I actually really like Hero as a temporary class for Selena. While Bow Knight does give her a much better secondary weapon, higher movement and better matchup on 17, I think Hero does a better job at pumping her Strength up and gives a better skill for a combat oriented unit like her. At the end of the day, Wyvern Lord is right there and a much better option for her overall, but I find Hero to be a good stepping stone for her. If you’re going to make her a/the Sol tank of the party, than maybe Bow Knight is better for getting some Bow Rank before reclassing, but I have yet to test that build. Might do so on a next Conquest run, since on my current Rev run she’s a Wyvern Lord for the sole purpose of giving Caeldori Strength +2 lol
16:21 in Ninja hell you can get a few Mechanists with Life & Death, & I think one has both it & Grizzly wound Personally, I like the generic Mechanist growths more, those skills do make it lean pretty player phase, honestly it would’ve been so funny if that map had Sol Ninjas of their own, just flexing the strength of the build XD … actually it would’ve been cool if more foes showed off skill builds over “ooohh this unit has trample oh noooo!” Like, Rally man & his Pole dancer buddies (Spear masters with 3 rallies each +Amaterasu), the as said Adventurers with double Seals, Iago’s Swordfair Lucky 7 Hero’s also had intrigue tbh, but that’s more lore than a “you should try this!” Kinda thing… still cool though XD Then again, most skill builds would probably involve Sol if it could, oh a Sol Oni chieftain/Wyvern, maybe in another world~
Master ninja is for sure SS but basically only when you reclass into it and grab sol. Then its totally ridiculous because you have 1-2, healing, and damage stacking. It's so nuts lategame.
Two words on Generals: -Effie is good as a Knight, because her growths actively try to play against the class' archetype and its constraints. -Benny sucks precisely because he's the embodiment of what an ideal Knight should be. That alone is telling. Effie's basically screaming "please get me out of this class line!" as soon as you get her. Benny, on the other hand is screaming "Please, don't take me out of this class line, or else I'll suck". Add to that that the Knight line has ZERO good skills and several bad ones, and there isn't a single unit that actually wants to become a Knight/General. Personally, I think it's the worst class in the game by far: to me it's easily F tier.
36:17 I personally am Horse-phobic, I hate them & hate double weaknesses, & to be fair, I cannot remember any Great knights with good Skills for capturing (or any recruitable great knights to be honest) I also can’t remember if Great Knights are programmed as cavaliers or knights, I do love Cav utility now though, mostly for Shelter shenanigans, as long as they get that they’re pretty up there for me Rip to never having Magic though, would’ve loved to run Levin Sword great knights but that 0% is damn 🤧😆
sniper and zerk are not comparable, one is the delete button while the other is the delete button that is more awkward due to 1 range and has a 5% chance to instantaneously combust every combat
I still don't agree with Nohr Noble is D tier because with a lot of the C D tier have issues with availability whereas Nohr Noble has good availability with Corrin being the main lord and everything so there is also very little opportunity cost in using Nohr Noble. Even if it's just Dark Knight but worse i would not have it in the same tier as Blacksmith
The takes on this had me dying. The idea that wolfseggner is a good class is laughable. This class offers almost nothing besides odd shaped that another class doesnt already offer im sorry. Bro needs to be in c
"I can grab a homeless man off the street and toss him into Malig knight and he'd be a top tier unit" Holy Truth Bombs
I wasn’t saying homeless bc I think the exploitation of homeless is a real problem with our society but otherwise yeah
Bold move dropping an f bomb 10 seconds in 😂
Of course, interesting manoeuvre.
most sane fe fates gameplay discussion:
SALVAGE BLOW TO FIX US DEBT IM CRYING
was I lying?
At least fix Vallite debt
I recently completed my first successful Conquest Hard Iron Man, and it definitely wouldn't have been possible without the Wolfssegners. Having a unit that can usually tank most enemies and usually kill most enemies with enough extra durability to introduce a little room for error was absolutely essential. Keaton is great, and Velouria is a damn monster. The traits are great, the pair ups are great, the flexibility of switching between stones is great, and Better Odds is honestly a handy skill.
(And yes, I did have to heavily rely on them specifically, because among the dead was Xander. Counter is lethal. Never forget.)
That's just one data point. And it probably takes a bit of steam out of my praise for the class to reveal this was Effie!Velouria with Quick Draw, but still. Couldn't have done it without her, and I was not giving up those stones for Great Knight.
36:10 dude that took me tf outtt LMFAOOO I was not prepared 😭
Vex in the background kills me every time 😂
Senno and Kumagera mentioned - another step closer to capturable bosses being properly tiered
47:30 SKY KNIGHT KEATON IS THE BEST BUILD 👏👏🙌
If you’re aiming to trigger his personal, he loves that class trees luck growth & cap, & Kinshi’s bow access for Anna’s bow for more luck
Outside of that little rant, on Rally man’s chapter (a Takumi boss chapter) you have Life & death snipers with Counter, *get them*, on player phase with bows, you straight up have +19 damage off of 3 skills, reclass to Kinshi for mobility & maybe Amaterasu if you want, but honestly those Snipers are powerful as heck
You could probably have better units (especially magic ones like Odin/leo/Ophilia/etc) but the fact you could just, *Have* this Sniper is amazing
Why was I so hesitant on putting kinshi knight in SS what was wrong with me
Blacksmith is the proof that IS will weigh in crit animations when balancing trade-offs for classes. You use Blacksmith to see Rinkah speen, that's it
Hero is a hot guy class. Simply. Thats why I like beefy frontline boy class.
11:00 Adventurer is a Great capture unit imo, all Bow knights are programmed to be Mercenary promote’s iirc, so the only way you can get a good shining bow unit is from Adventure’s reclassed
Plus, I think we have better Adventurer captures then Bow knights? Though, to be Fair I can only remember the double Seal units from Shura’s boss chapter, still, seal Str & Spd is appreciated
I still maintain that Hero is very good. Great stats all around (especially w/ Skl which is amazing), sword/axe access, infantry (no flier eff or beast eff), and even good pair up... that's an insane amount of flexibility.
I think it works for Beruka because of her high skill stat. She's bulkier too, so she can run Killer Axe + Gamble with HP boost/recovery skills for a fun crit tank build.
This some good evergreen content right here
I actually really like Hero as a temporary class for Selena. While Bow Knight does give her a much better secondary weapon, higher movement and better matchup on 17, I think Hero does a better job at pumping her Strength up and gives a better skill for a combat oriented unit like her.
At the end of the day, Wyvern Lord is right there and a much better option for her overall, but I find Hero to be a good stepping stone for her.
If you’re going to make her a/the Sol tank of the party, than maybe Bow Knight is better for getting some Bow Rank before reclassing, but I have yet to test that build. Might do so on a next Conquest run, since on my current Rev run she’s a Wyvern Lord for the sole purpose of giving Caeldori Strength +2 lol
Replicate Peri goes hard. Trust. Rallies herself. 💪
When I'm watching the conquest classes tier list and they talk over vex
@@volzuloof is this supposed to imply the Shaq time out image
@@lagspike7763 yes
Paladin really is "You're kinda ass but movement is pretty cool"
The timestamps are still the ones for part 1.
Sorry I had 2 hours of sleep I’ll fix it quockly
16:21 in Ninja hell you can get a few Mechanists with Life & Death, & I think one has both it & Grizzly wound
Personally, I like the generic Mechanist growths more, those skills do make it lean pretty player phase, honestly it would’ve been so funny if that map had Sol Ninjas of their own, just flexing the strength of the build XD
… actually it would’ve been cool if more foes showed off skill builds over “ooohh this unit has trample oh noooo!” Like, Rally man & his Pole dancer buddies (Spear masters with 3 rallies each +Amaterasu), the as said Adventurers with double Seals, Iago’s Swordfair Lucky 7 Hero’s also had intrigue tbh, but that’s more lore than a “you should try this!” Kinda thing… still cool though XD
Then again, most skill builds would probably involve Sol if it could, oh a Sol Oni chieftain/Wyvern, maybe in another world~
Master ninja is for sure SS but basically only when you reclass into it and grab sol. Then its totally ridiculous because you have 1-2, healing, and damage stacking. It's so nuts lategame.
21:50 I like Hero captures only for Sol & if I’m making them a Dread fighter, I just like Mercenaries skills more~
Two words on Generals:
-Effie is good as a Knight, because her growths actively try to play against the class' archetype and its constraints.
-Benny sucks precisely because he's the embodiment of what an ideal Knight should be.
That alone is telling. Effie's basically screaming "please get me out of this class line!" as soon as you get her. Benny, on the other hand is screaming "Please, don't take me out of this class line, or else I'll suck".
Add to that that the Knight line has ZERO good skills and several bad ones, and there isn't a single unit that actually wants to become a Knight/General.
Personally, I think it's the worst class in the game by far: to me it's easily F tier.
I'm not a math doctor but I think that was a lot more than two words
36:17 I personally am Horse-phobic, I hate them & hate double weaknesses, & to be fair, I cannot remember any Great knights with good Skills for capturing (or any recruitable great knights to be honest)
I also can’t remember if Great Knights are programmed as cavaliers or knights, I do love Cav utility now though, mostly for Shelter shenanigans, as long as they get that they’re pretty up there for me
Rip to never having Magic though, would’ve loved to run Levin Sword great knights but that 0% is damn 🤧😆
Guy Am I would drown in Ninja Hell tbh
Is it great master debate, or is it master ninja debate?
It’s the great master bate
@@lagspike7763 Ok, but i generally dont do that together with others
Enough of the skill slander, Arthurs axe sol is 🔥
sniper and zerk are not comparable, one is the delete button while the other is the delete button that is more awkward due to 1 range and has a 5% chance to instantaneously combust every combat
Part of me wants to say Merchant is lowkey D Tier
See me personally I would never willingly admit I’m broke and don’t make bands like that
see but you also said Ophelia is bad so your opinion doesn't count
blacksmith slander will not be tolerated
I still don't agree with Nohr Noble is D tier because with a lot of the C D tier have issues with availability whereas Nohr Noble has good availability with Corrin being the main lord and everything so there is also very little opportunity cost in using Nohr Noble.
Even if it's just Dark Knight but worse i would not have it in the same tier as Blacksmith
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46:50
The takes on this had me dying. The idea that wolfseggner is a good class is laughable. This class offers almost nothing besides odd shaped that another class doesnt already offer im sorry. Bro needs to be in c