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Having the right tools makes all the difference! For those wanting to do this for the first time, just get yourself a drum brake tool kit, not very expensive and it'll have the specialty leverage tools to easily get those springs and retainer pieces hooked up.
Yea I agree 100%. I bought one of those kits but it was a very cheap set. So, it wasn't exactly helpful which is why I ended up using different tools. Next time I need to replace drum brakes, I'll be spending the money on a better kit! Thanks for watching! 🤟
Stopped in the middle of the night today. Watching your video before I go to bed and try again tomorrow. Helped a lot, hope I can finish that wheel tomorrow.
@@TrickShiftGarage It took a while but I finished it all on New Years Day! Had to replace the wheel cylinder twice because the first one I bought had a bad cup from the factory so it was leaking.
Thanks bro. I've done wheel bearing once but fixing do this. This is so real n Im dreading it. Your views go up bc this be my reference video. 30 min job takes a day without this knowledge. It's simple but so aggrivates. Thanks for showing the real side of drums.
Hello Brad! This was also my first time doing it and it was rather challenging, but now that I've done it, it won't be as bad next time. Thanks for watching man, we appreciate it! 🤟
Pivot washer: I watched you struggle with that, and it seemed to me that you needed to get a tool that would work to push the washer off from around the bolt, causing the washer to expand as it is pushed to slide from around bolt. Maybe clamp the shoe down with a couple of c clamps, then hammer and a chisel or flathead screwdriver.
Yea that pivot washer was a lot of fun lol. Looking back there were a lot of things I could have done differently. Your suggestion would work for sure. Next time I gotta deal with drum brakes, I'll give it a try. Thanks for watching and taking the time to leave a comment True Star, we appreciate it! 🤟
Thanks because I had no clue where to put the parking brake lever went , you help me , my adjuster cap came off and stuck between the drum and brake shoes , had to change it with the og bottle jack in a motel parking lot ,Handy trick removing the pivot washer , use a punch or small chisel. And on the spring installation a good pair of vice grips, and I feel the frustration, trying to reinstall the springs with a wrench , I broke the adjuster cable twice.
Thanks. Very helpful video. Though the job is much easier with channel lock style pliers. I was able to get most of the springs and clips and clasps installed on the first or second try. If you do this brake job again, you should try a few tools other than the needle nose... :)
If you don't have the retainer spring tool, narrow nose vice grips work wonders. They will hold the spring and cap, no problem. What I liked is you showed real life problems that can happen, unlike other videos that make it look so easy and simple, although using the closed end wrench on those springs spread out the ends making it easier for them to pop off. Again, if you don't have the tool vice grips work great, getting them on the first time reducing minimal if any damage to the spring. And yes, I was yelling at the screen noticing the wheel cylinder pins missing. And you should lube the star wheel adjuster. I just went through all this, but I had the brakes from h&ll...
Yea I figured it would be good to show everyone some of the problems you can run into doing this for the first time. Now, the next time I change them I'm going to do a more thorough video with the proper tools.
One thing I noticed was you were using needle nose plyers to install the springs with the metal disks to hold the shoes. Perhaps some regular plyers with taller teeth would have worked better? I also found that if you put an elastic band around the shoes on the outside of both of them in a circle it makes it much easier to hold everything together. This is not a very easy job but it is something you do so rarely as soon as you conquer it you soon forget it because you do it so rarely. I've gotten cut by these springs when they pop back.....that hurts.
i use vice grip clamp on end of spring open end up some then pull on vice grip make sure you are very tight on vice grip on spring pull on grip go around post do same on outher spring then squezze end of spring ends both to gether
7:54.. that c clip should always be replaced if possible..when they get corroded they are hard to remove..so I drill thru the closed end, insert a punch, And tap it out with a hammer... "even with the proper lubricant, a good amount of 'verbal perjoratives' will be required to complete the job..
Yea I bought a very cheap kit and it was not very helpful. The next time I have to do these brakes, I'm going to spend a little more to get a higher quality kit. Thanks for watching! 🤟
That's why I just paid someone to install this on my 1996 Ford F-150. I replaced Drum brakes on my '87 Dodge Dakota back in the day, and it was a real pain in the Sh!t-hole!
Hey TSG I wanna thank you straight off for showing a fn picture of the old brakes fully assembled, OMG, all these supposedly helpful videos show them taking off the drum and next thing they already have removed most of the hardware never considering someone like me who had half the brake parts floating in the drum because of a rip off garage that charged the previous owner 350 bucks for back brakes and didn't even use the correct parts, its one of the most dangerous hacks I have ever seen in my 60 years. I had zero guide to go by until your video. My truck is an 87 4x4 with the 351 4bbl in it. I live 21 miles off grid in Arizona and that truck hauls thousand of pounds of water plus livestock hay and feed plus my propane, thank God nobody got hurt or killed because of hackers calling themselves mechanics. My brakes went out completely cause when they collapsed it tore open the wheel cylinder and all my fluid went out. Thankfully it happened up here at my place. I have not watched the whole video yet but I will, just have a big mess to clean up first. But drum is off and has survived. I read in comments about cussing and I have been doing that already, lol. Again thanks for showing the unit assembled. Awesome.
Hey thanks for the kind words. My dad had an 87 2wd with the 5.0 EFI. He was able to get 450,000 miles out of it. These trucks can run forever! Let me know how it goes when you get it all done. We try to show people some of the things that can go wrong while maintaining their vehicles. I'm glad you found it helpful.
@TrickShiftGarage I just replaced my brake shoes, wheel cylinders and replaced all hardware on my E150 van. I had the exact experience that you did. I had to start over several times. Those springs are a real pain.
To be 100% honest with you, I have no idea. I believe they are different sizes, but I would guess they are similar in the way they operate. But, I can't say that with any certainty because I've never worked on an F350 before. I'm sorry I couldn't be more helpful! Let me know if you change them and it's similar so I can add it to the description of the video to help someone else that has the same question.
I’m in the middle of it. Had to stop because it got dark…. Im having a hard time getting the brake shoes to seat properly… the cable is pretty hard too. going to try again tmw
What a shit design drum brake are. Hated it 30 years ago and I still hate them today. Real motivation for doing a rear disc brake conversion. Paying $2000 is money well spent to avoid all this mental stress and frustration. Jesus.
Well, in defense of drum brakes this was my first time doing them. Overall, disc brakes are definitely better, but I definitely made it look worse since it was my first time. But I'm glad you brought this up. I want to eventually do a disc brake conversion for this truck, as well as get some big brembos on the front.
@@TrickShiftGarage I liked to have fell out of my chair!. Laughin. I pulled my drums off Friday and damn near had to call the trauma center to come & get me.. I ain't never seen brakes that looked like someone set off an armour piercing magnesium anti tank round in 'em put the tire back on an walked off...Pure slag & Not one reusable part. So when I saw yours 😂😂😂😂✌️
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NOoOoOoo NEVER EVER hit the sides of the drums. Hit the space between the studs. If you’re afraid of accidentally hitting the studs, put a lug nut over it. But don’t ever bang the sides of the drums. You risk denting it ever so slightly and you’re going to get a world of issues. Other than, awesome video!! 😊
I've never heard of anyone having issues with hitting the sides. If the drums dent from hitting them, then you should have no issue breaking them in half while hitting them. I'm assuming you are saying that to be cautious, but that cannot be a common issue. Those drums (even of this age) are pretty durable.
@@TrickShiftGarage As a mobile mechanic that’s made multiple house calls for DIYers that hit the sides of their drums and then don’t understand why their brakes were making a crazy sound, I’ve had to educate on why it’s a bad idea to hit the sides. If I can save someone from making that mistake or help someone figure out what’s up after doing so, maybe this comment can help 😊
Are they hitting them with a sledgehammer and then reusing the drums? I replaced mine, and also I hit them with hardly any force. Definitely not enough to dent them. If someone is reusing their drums (highly advise against that considering how cheap drums are) and they decide to go all out hitting them, then sure. It could cause issues. But I think it's an exaggeration to assume this is a common occurrence considering most people replace their drums. For anyone reading this: just replace the drums.
Too many things you did wrong. Vise grips not needle nose. Flathead Screwdriver would have opened the C clip in 2 seconds with just a twist. Brake shoe hold down springs use Vise grips or the proper tool. The order of removal of the parts was incorrect. Then I stopped Watching. Much too painful...
Oh I agree a lot of mistakes were made, but the brakes work great and I have had no issues. I know this was a painful video for you to finish, and I do sincerely apologize. Hopefully my next video won't hurt you so much.
That's why I said "This was my first time dealing with drum brakes and I made a lot of mistakes" in the video. And I completely agree about ChrisFix. That's why he's the most successful automotive channel on UA-cam. This video (and all of our videos) was not meant to compete with Chris. I'm not sure what gave you that impression, but that's completely inaccurate.
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I watched alot of guides and yours was the only one that my brain understood. Thank you for posting this.
Hey thanks for the kind words man, I really appreciate it. I'm glad the video helped. 🙏
Having the right tools makes all the difference! For those wanting to do this for the first time, just get yourself a drum brake tool kit, not very expensive and it'll have the specialty leverage tools to easily get those springs and retainer pieces hooked up.
Yea I agree 100%. I bought one of those kits but it was a very cheap set. So, it wasn't exactly helpful which is why I ended up using different tools. Next time I need to replace drum brakes, I'll be spending the money on a better kit!
Thanks for watching! 🤟
I think I need to make a video
You should man, we are all dying to watch it!
Chinese Monks would lose their cookies replacing brake shoes too!
🤣 they can be difficult for the first time! Thanks for watching!
Stopped in the middle of the night today. Watching your video before I go to bed and try again tomorrow. Helped a lot, hope I can finish that wheel tomorrow.
Awesome! Let me know how it goes! 🤟
@@TrickShiftGarage It took a while but I finished it all on New Years Day! Had to replace the wheel cylinder twice because the first one I bought had a bad cup from the factory so it was leaking.
Oh damn! Sorry that happened, but I'll glad you got it all done man!
@@TrickShiftGarage Hey it's alright. I learned a lot, and best of all I don't have to do it again for a long time
Lol I hear ya. That was the same thought I had when I finished.
This guy's OnPoint doesn't matter how good you are fixing anyting it's like the first time every time you're dealing with brakes and springs ♨️
Thanks James! Those springs are a pain for sure! Thanks for watching! 🤟
Thanks bro. I've done wheel bearing once but fixing do this. This is so real n Im dreading it. Your views go up bc this be my reference video. 30 min job takes a day without this knowledge. It's simple but so aggrivates. Thanks for showing the real side of drums.
Hello Brad! This was also my first time doing it and it was rather challenging, but now that I've done it, it won't be as bad next time. Thanks for watching man, we appreciate it! 🤟
Well, I'm about to take this journey in a few days, once all parts arrive. This will come in handy. Much appreciated.
Good luck Mike! Let us know how it goes!
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Thanks,, LoL. I have my B12 vitamins and coffee at the ready. I'll keep you informed on how it goes.
The only video I found that gave me the name of the part I needed.
I'm glad I could be of help! Thanks for watching! 🤟
Pivot washer: I watched you struggle with that, and it seemed to me that you needed to get a tool that would work to push the washer off from around the bolt, causing the washer to expand as it is pushed to slide from around bolt. Maybe clamp the shoe down with a couple of c clamps, then hammer and a chisel or flathead screwdriver.
Yea that pivot washer was a lot of fun lol. Looking back there were a lot of things I could have done differently. Your suggestion would work for sure. Next time I gotta deal with drum brakes, I'll give it a try. Thanks for watching and taking the time to leave a comment True Star, we appreciate it! 🤟
Great video, I like the way you show all the little problems and struggles as you go. I was cursing with ya lol
Lol it can be such a pain for the first time! Thanks for watching! 🤟
I was cursing with ya too lol. Really liked the cheerful cursing yukelayli music you added.
Thanks because I had no clue where to put the parking brake lever went , you help me , my adjuster cap came off and stuck between the drum and brake shoes , had to change it with the og bottle jack in a motel parking lot ,Handy trick removing the pivot washer , use a punch or small chisel. And on the spring installation a good pair of vice grips, and I feel the frustration, trying to reinstall the springs with a wrench , I broke the adjuster cable twice.
Yea man it was more difficult than it should have been lol. I'll be more prepared next time! 🤟
😂 I'm sorry for laughing but I used a big pair of vice grips and popped do springs right on
🤣 I kind of made it look wayyyy harder than it needed to be lol.
Thanks. Very helpful video. Though the job is much easier with channel lock style pliers. I was able to get most of the springs and clips and clasps installed on the first or second try. If you do this brake job again, you should try a few tools other than the needle nose... :)
Completely agree! Channel locks would have been much better. I'm glad you got it done Daniel, and thanks for watching! 🤟
If you don't have the retainer spring tool, narrow nose vice grips work wonders. They will hold the spring and cap, no problem. What I liked is you showed real life problems that can happen, unlike other videos that make it look so easy and simple, although using the closed end wrench on those springs spread out the ends making it easier for them to pop off. Again, if you don't have the tool vice grips work great, getting them on the first time reducing minimal if any damage to the spring. And yes, I was yelling at the screen noticing the wheel cylinder pins missing. And you should lube the star wheel adjuster. I just went through all this, but I had the brakes from h&ll...
Yea I figured it would be good to show everyone some of the problems you can run into doing this for the first time. Now, the next time I change them I'm going to do a more thorough video with the proper tools.
Learned how to do this in high school back in 91
This is a good reference video. I've done countless brake jobs but they were all pads not shoes. This is a big help. Thank you
Thank you for the kind words DZ! And thanks for watching! 🤟
The good thing is that the auto manufacturers have pretty much phased out the use of drum brakes. Most cars and trucks nowadays have 4 wheel disk
Yea, a lot easier to work on than drum brakes.
One thing I noticed was you were using needle nose plyers to install the springs with the metal disks to hold the shoes. Perhaps some regular plyers with taller teeth would have worked better? I also found that if you put an elastic band around the shoes on the outside of both of them in a circle it makes it much easier to hold everything together. This is not a very easy job but it is something you do so rarely as soon as you conquer it you soon forget it because you do it so rarely. I've gotten cut by these springs when they pop back.....that hurts.
Very true Thomas! Those would have definitely made this easier for sure. Thanks for watching! 🤟
Great videos, keep em coming!
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i use vice grip clamp on end of spring open end up some then pull on vice grip make sure you are very tight on vice grip on spring pull on grip go around post do same on outher spring then squezze end of spring ends both to gether
Thanks man you helped me put my brakes back together
Awesome, glad to hear that Andrew! Thanks for watching! 🤟
7:54.. that c clip should always be replaced if possible..when they get corroded they are hard to remove..so I drill thru the closed end, insert a punch, And tap it out with a hammer... "even with the proper lubricant, a good amount of 'verbal perjoratives' will be required to complete the job..
Very good point!
Did your the goat for recording this
I try to help!
Watching you get irate and cursing added truth and entertainment to a very educational video. Thanks :)
Lol thanks! We are trying to keep it real while providing as much information as possible. Thanks for watching! 🤟
Those retainer springs go on much easier with the proper tool. The bigger the brakes the more you need the proper tools
Yea I bought a very cheap kit and it was not very helpful. The next time I have to do these brakes, I'm going to spend a little more to get a higher quality kit.
Thanks for watching! 🤟
Sometimes putting slack in the adjusters helps if your drum is fairly old and has a groove where the shoes could catch.
I'll have to keep that in mind the next time I do drums. I definitely struggled on some parts. Thanks for taking the time to leave some advice! 🤟
Great video. Thank you.
Thanks for watching!
I’ve always relied on a regular screw driver to separate those clips, never struggled.
That's great!
That's why I just paid someone to install this on my 1996 Ford F-150.
I replaced Drum brakes on my '87 Dodge Dakota back in the day, and it was a real pain in the Sh!t-hole!
Lol yea for my first time it was a pain. I'm sure I will run into issues when I have to change it again.
At this point I wanna pay someone but I’m always having those thoughts in the back of my head that if I don’t do it right no one will
i use vice grip just set to hold edge of washer then push in i also use c clamp to hold break
Yea that would have been a lot easier! Definitely something I will keep in mind the next time I do them.
Great video
Thanks for watching!
Hey TSG I wanna thank you straight off for showing a fn picture of the old brakes fully assembled, OMG, all these supposedly helpful videos show them taking off the drum and next thing they already have removed most of the hardware never considering someone like me who had half the brake parts floating in the drum because of a rip off garage that charged the previous owner 350 bucks for back brakes and didn't even use the correct parts, its one of the most dangerous hacks I have ever seen in my 60 years. I had zero guide to go by until your video. My truck is an 87 4x4 with the 351 4bbl in it. I live 21 miles off grid in Arizona and that truck hauls thousand of pounds of water plus livestock hay and feed plus my propane, thank God nobody got hurt or killed because of hackers calling themselves mechanics. My brakes went out completely cause when they collapsed it tore open the wheel cylinder and all my fluid went out. Thankfully it happened up here at my place. I have not watched the whole video yet but I will, just have a big mess to clean up first. But drum is off and has survived. I read in comments about cussing and I have been doing that already, lol. Again thanks for showing the unit assembled. Awesome.
Hey thanks for the kind words. My dad had an 87 2wd with the 5.0 EFI. He was able to get 450,000 miles out of it. These trucks can run forever!
Let me know how it goes when you get it all done. We try to show people some of the things that can go wrong while maintaining their vehicles. I'm glad you found it helpful.
Thumbs up for not editing clip scene
Thank you! 🤟
Your cursing counter had me laughing so hard
Lol it got a little out of control 🤣
@TrickShiftGarage I just replaced my brake shoes, wheel cylinders and replaced all hardware on my E150 van. I had the exact experience that you did. I had to start over several times. Those springs are a real pain.
Was it the first time you have done it? I think that's why we had such an issue. Next time we will have an easier time.
I tip my cap to you sir. After watching this I'd almost pay someone
Lol, well I definitely made it look harder than it was in some of the clips. But for a first time, it wasn't too bad.
Is f350 drums set up the same? Same year truk
To be 100% honest with you, I have no idea. I believe they are different sizes, but I would guess they are similar in the way they operate. But, I can't say that with any certainty because I've never worked on an F350 before. I'm sorry I couldn't be more helpful! Let me know if you change them and it's similar so I can add it to the description of the video to help someone else that has the same question.
Using a c clamp as soon I put that disk break from moving all over the place while I'm putting in the springs
That's a great idea!
Never again.
Oh it's not that bad Blake! You can do it!
I’m in the middle of it. Had to stop because it got dark…. Im having a hard time getting the brake shoes to seat properly… the cable is pretty hard too. going to try again tmw
Blake H I struggled also. Just keep at it man, you got this!
Should the cable always hook up easily? There shouldn’t be any tension right?
What a shit design drum brake are. Hated it 30 years ago and I still hate them today. Real motivation for doing a rear disc brake conversion. Paying $2000 is money well spent to avoid all this mental stress and frustration. Jesus.
Well, in defense of drum brakes this was my first time doing them. Overall, disc brakes are definitely better, but I definitely made it look worse since it was my first time.
But I'm glad you brought this up. I want to eventually do a disc brake conversion for this truck, as well as get some big brembos on the front.
Exactly why I just paid to have this done
Lol well this was my first time so it definitely looked harder than it needed to be. Next time it should go pretty smooth.
use vice grip to hold clip open it up with screw driver dont use long nose plyers
Good advice!
Tension adjuster spring got me too 😂
🤣 it can definitely be a pain! Were you able to get it all back together?
@@TrickShiftGarage yeah, I was... I had better luck putting the spring in the drum side first then into the little bracket
@@TrickShiftGarage thank you, your video was helpful
Ah, that's a good idea. I didn't even think about that. Glad you got it done man, and I'm glad the video helped. Thanks for watching! 🤟
That was hard to watch.. You need the right tools and that bottom spring you have to put the shoe end in first..
Next time I'll be more prepared. 🤟
What year is the Truck?
Mine is a 1995
Great job and video but man your killing me with those needle nose pliers 😂 please grab some channel locks.
🤣 I definitely need to pick up a pair for sure. Would have made this 100 times easier. Thanks for watching Derek! 🤟
Let's clean things up a bit?...
Hahahahaha.
Lol just a tad.
@@TrickShiftGarage I liked to have fell out of my chair!. Laughin. I pulled my drums off Friday and damn near had to call the trauma center to come & get me.. I ain't never seen brakes that looked like someone set off an armour piercing magnesium anti tank round in 'em put the tire back on an walked off...Pure slag & Not one reusable part. So when I saw yours 😂😂😂😂✌️
Brake shoes are a Pain on the butt
Yea for sure. Eventually, I want to upgrade them to disc brakes.
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Thanks I thought it was just me
No problem! 🤟
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He's smart as hell!
NOoOoOoo NEVER EVER hit the sides of the drums. Hit the space between the studs. If you’re afraid of accidentally hitting the studs, put a lug nut over it. But don’t ever bang the sides of the drums. You risk denting it ever so slightly and you’re going to get a world of issues. Other than, awesome video!! 😊
I've never heard of anyone having issues with hitting the sides. If the drums dent from hitting them, then you should have no issue breaking them in half while hitting them. I'm assuming you are saying that to be cautious, but that cannot be a common issue. Those drums (even of this age) are pretty durable.
@@TrickShiftGarage As a mobile mechanic that’s made multiple house calls for DIYers that hit the sides of their drums and then don’t understand why their brakes were making a crazy sound, I’ve had to educate on why it’s a bad idea to hit the sides.
If I can save someone from making that mistake or help someone figure out what’s up after doing so, maybe this comment can help 😊
@@TrickShiftGarage You did a great job, cussing and all.
Are they hitting them with a sledgehammer and then reusing the drums? I replaced mine, and also I hit them with hardly any force. Definitely not enough to dent them.
If someone is reusing their drums (highly advise against that considering how cheap drums are) and they decide to go all out hitting them, then sure. It could cause issues. But I think it's an exaggeration to assume this is a common occurrence considering most people replace their drums.
For anyone reading this: just replace the drums.
breck spring need replacing now don't use a wrench , use screw driver instead .
Nope. The springs are still working great. There are more ways than 1 to do something. But thanks for watching! 🤟
Don't slam on new brakes. Start off easy.
Great video otherwise!
Im 79 yrs old and i did it easier than you
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Too many things you did wrong.
Vise grips not needle nose. Flathead Screwdriver would have opened the C clip in 2 seconds with just a twist.
Brake shoe hold down springs use Vise grips or the proper tool.
The order of removal of the parts was incorrect. Then I stopped Watching. Much too painful...
Oh I agree a lot of mistakes were made, but the brakes work great and I have had no issues. I know this was a painful video for you to finish, and I do sincerely apologize. Hopefully my next video won't hurt you so much.
@@TrickShiftGarage watch Chris Fix video on doing drum brakes and you'll see a real professional demo
That's why I said "This was my first time dealing with drum brakes and I made a lot of mistakes" in the video. And I completely agree about ChrisFix. That's why he's the most successful automotive channel on UA-cam.
This video (and all of our videos) was not meant to compete with Chris. I'm not sure what gave you that impression, but that's completely inaccurate.
I would be after that crow