The BEST Tiller Outboards! (MOST RELIABLE)
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- Опубліковано 28 вер 2024
- The BEST Tiller Outboards! (MOST RELIABLE)
Last week ya'll commented that you wanted a Team Talk video discussing the best small HP tiller outboards. Today we deliver and some of y'all might be surprised at our list. Lastly, we want you to comment below on 2 more tiller outboards that you think are the most reliable. Any Tohatsu fans out there?
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The 90's Nissan/Tohatsu 18hp 2 stroke tiller had the best power to weight ratio of any two stroke of that era, super simple and reliable motors as well. Buy one if you can find one!
Yamaha 2 stroke 40/28, 40/30 & 50/35 jet drive tiller OEM setup. Wicked engines - precision blend that hasn’t given a hiccup on 3 engines. Owned all above, 1, 40/30 I ran hard for 10 seasons with heavy loads, zero issues, never touched carbs. Needed to clean thermostats regularly which is common on outboard jets. Bullet proof. Highly sought after engines in B.C. Especially for inflatable jet tunnel hulls.
First off, I love your videos! No BS.
80’s and 90’s two stroke Suzuki 25hp. Will outrun any other 25hp.
Central Illinois has a couple 25hp limit lakes, those engines hold their value better than you could ever imagine!
I currently have a 2015 9.8hp four stroke Tohatsu. Starts easy , runs smooth and quiet, sips fuel. Doesn’t have near the hole shot of a two stroke though. It’s all a trade off.
2023 Suzuki DF75A tiller is awesome! Powerful and smooth running. Only have about 40 hours on it so far. I have it on an Excel 1860 F86. Boat is used for catfishing and waterfowl hunting on the Mississippi river in Missouri.
The Johnson "SPL" 28/48/88 were awesome. Many still running around up here. My little 6hp Evinrude Fisherman from 1969 is still going strong and does good for anti-mosquito work.
I am still running a 68 6 horse johnson.
I had a 2004 25hp Mercury 2 stroke. That was the best engine I ever had or used. It never once had anything go wrong with it. It ran perfect all the time. Idle all day. Great power. Not super heavy. It was just so good. Had it on my duck boat. Loved that set up.
Sold the motor after the boat rotted to pieces. (I made the boat) Didn't have anything to put it on. Wish I just gotten a little skiff or something to put the motor on.
My 1987 spl 48 never will die . Still has 117 on both cylinders! Ran as a teenager . Have a 90 zuk jet that is like a farrari and quiet. All good stuff . Keep it coming👍
Man I love your engine choices, I've had experience with most of them you mentioned and I agree whole heartedly. I run a 1996 Evinrude Tracker 20HP Longshaft 2-stroke (its black and I swear its a 25 it RIPS) on a 1998 Alumacraft 14ft split-back in northern New York State every year at my summer cottage. I got both brand new and the dang thing wont die! I've only had to replace a fuel pump and am internal fuel line in the last 26 years. This summer had the lower unit rebuilt, that's it. And for winter storage; replace the lower unit oil, run the gas out of the carbs, put it on the trailer and cover it, that's it, BULLET PROOF! Another outboard that's hard to kill is the Evinrude/Johnson late 70s early 80s 70HP 3 cylinder, not sure if they made a tiller but them dang things won't die either! And for the little OMC 15HP shorties, they haul ass for their size fer suuuure!
All the 3 cylinder OMC are great! That 70 was an absolute monster! IMO they are the absolute best 2 stroke motors ever made!
Early 2000s, mariner 15 horse power outboard brake motor never broke on me. Never had a bent prop shaft. And I hit 3 logs with it. The prop is taken like chips, the size of a quarter out of it, but still great running moder
Suggested this vid last week and now im shopping for a tiller setup for my 1648 seaark! Thanks Andy!
Had a short shaft Nissan 25 two stroke on a 14 foot flat. They are only a timing adjustment and a carb restrictor removal from making almost 35 hp. That thing really ran strong. Had it hot more than once from weeds or sand, could not kill that damb thing. Sold it to a buddy that is still running it.
First Comment woot, Can't wait for this one! My Dads first outboard an old Mariner 9.9 souped up to 25hp. Great boat and memories
I have 2022 Suzuki 40 and am forced to use that BS Solas aluminum prop that needs to be replaced every time it hits a blade of eelgrass. The only stainless i found that fits chatters so much and so loud (at idle) it's embarrassing. Didn't even try to run it because it sounded like it would shread my lower unit. Does anyone make a stainless for the 40 that stays quiet?
Early 80s 15-35hp johnson/evinrude are like the iron duke of the outboard world..
I know a few with the newer 20hp Suzuki that just keep taking whatever that's thrown at them..
I have a 25 hp Suzuki 4 stroke fuel injected. 2017 model. I love it!!
Early 2000s Tohatsu 9.8 2 stroke, bullet proof reliable and high power to weight ratio.
Early Yamaha / Mariner 15-30hp. We have had a 15 in the family since new in 82/84?? It’s pushed everything from a 16 old town sponson to a kicker motor on 21’ glass boat, thousands of hours, total lack of maintenance, mix gas and go!
25 mariner “grey mercury”. Loved it.
2 stroke Montgomery wards ran amazing no issues other than. Someone stole it off back of boat. I bet it's still running today.
Early 9.9 mariner hands down the best I have in that size. I still run a Johnson 25 and 40
9.9 or 15 evinrude for sure simple and can get parts anywhere even auto part stores
I had a 1987 Suzuki 2-stroke 25hp tiller with an electric starter. It was a fantastic engine. Wish I still had it.
I got my grandpa's 80s lowe aluminum bass boat it sat for years and I'm trying to restore it it has an evinrude 28 spl on it and I was wondering if it would be worth it to repower or get it running again and possibly swap the intake and carb to make it a 35 and possibly swap the lower unit to a through hub one from a 25, 30 or 35 the boat says it's rated up to a 60 hp outboard
Have a 07 115 Opti. Runs great most of time. Randomly will lose power and bog down when I go to take off. Shut it down sit for 5 mines runs like a rapped ape rest of day. Happens 25% of time other than that no complaints
Love the video how about a video on new 75 thru 90 tiller models. Thanks
I have a Nissan 40hp TLDI 2 stroke that has been a reliable and fast engine. Came with tilt/trim.
Can you make a video about the best 9.9 outboards?
I find myself really wanting a Yamaha 60 or 70 tiller and can't seem to find out what folks have experienced with them. This video says the older ones were good. Does that mean that the newer wones are not so good??
I had a 78 7.5 johnson tiller it two pulls on rope you were gone like donkey Kong!! My first and favorite motor. I had a tin head 20hp merc,not sure what year that the drive shaft rusted in the lower unit. I bought it on used boat an was junk.
I have driven from Pine Island Minnesota ! To have you guys work on my 50 pro Yamaha.
We had a 35 Evinrude as teenagers late 80’s and beat the absolute dogshit out of it and she just wouldn’t quit. Lucky to still be alive. 😂 good times though.
I would be interested in your thoughts on a six or eight horsepower motor used as a kicker for trolling.
9.9 Johnson sea horse was a good little motor...think they called it the brain
Merc 59 cuz built. Stupid fast .yamaha 25hp 3cyl . Zuik dt25. Nissan tohatsu 50 all good motors
Check out havoc boats with wreackin havoc subtitle they run a lot of Mercs and Yamahas and hop them up a lot it’s crazy to watch!
87 Johnson 25 hp had the 100 to1 ratio I could not run it that small amount. This was around the first thru hub exhaust. On a 14' Lowe 27 mph with a SS prop was normal. Run it from new in 87 to 94 no repairs just yearly plugs and foot oil.
90’s 2stroke 25hp suzuki. Fast and they run forever.
I had a 2004 Yamaha 50 hp 4 stroke carb . Idle great in the yard go to the lake it would not idle . I cleaned all 4 carbs sync the carbs still ran like poop sold that junk pile
Didnt those yamaha have a 100:1 sticker on them?? Maybe thats why the cranks are going bad?
hows the 60hp 2stroke 59ci merc outboard ?
Tohatsu m30, same weight class as the merc 25, more power, better gear ratio
No way that johnson evinrude 15hp is better than Yamaha 9.9/15 98-09
Yamaha from the bottom to the top
25/35hp 2 cyl. omc THE BEST. parts everywhere, even in an old farmers barn, 40/60hp 2 cyl omc. nexrt best thing! easy to hop up, makes great reliable power. these motors once made omc number 1 in the industry.
6hp omc
3 cyl yamaha 30/40
I’ve had 2 50elpto’s and and beat the shit out of them and still run the hell out of the one I have left
Least reliable is any Yamaha 30 HP Two stroke pure junk
Lol , yeah them 3cylinder Yamaha are junk , plus all the third world county Yamahas(enduro) going strong on everything that floats.
Absolutely can't kill them here in the Bahamas some are 18+ years old the Yamaha enduro line are the hard working 2 stroke I have ever seen
Those 9.9/15hp johnson/evinrude are indestructible! I'm running a 9.9 that sat for 3 years. Fired right up. Plus so many interchangeable parts between all the years. I have an 03 lower unit on my 87. Such good motors!
I really liked the Johnson 9.9
I have an 89 that other than ducks season did get used for year's when I started fishing I had to have some carb work done other than that still running strong.
I found the carbed Evinrude/Johnson all hp started great. Smaller older Mercs all were a bitch to start.
Had zero issues outta my 99' johnson 30hp. But i also have a 150 ficht thats been running good lmao so my data should probably be null and void.
Merc. 25 and Yam yam 25 2-strokes are the two best outboards ever made... period! You can sink them, seize them up or run them on water and gas mix. Hit anything with them and they still run like a scalded dog.
Absolutely I've brought several of each back from hell and they're all still running, one of them is on my own boat (yammy 25)
Omc is pretty much the same just slower lol
Off topic question..... what's the difference between the Mariner and the Mariner Magnum?
The smaller mercury 2strokes were made by tohatsu in Japan that is why they last so long and are reliable
@@cam270wsmbingo!!
Have a 2004 Nissan two stroke 25hp and a 2007 Tahatsu two stroke for fishing restricted HP lakes .A lot of guys run them up this way .These motors are dependable and fast. I'm running the 25 Nissan on a J16 Carolina Skiff and getting 27-28 mph GPS .
From the 90's until they quit making them for the US, the Yamaha 25 2-stroke is hard to beat. Towed in a few Mercury 25's and Johnson 25/35's with it.
Tohatsu 20hp-60hp 2 smoke and four stroke. They are tanks, fast and reliable. Also the 2 smoke 25hp and 40hp mercs.
@TeamMarineService My 2002 Mercury 15 runs Great and is a Good little outboard on the lake. I also have a 1997 Johnson 9.9 and also runs great. Love small tiller Outboards and like your videos. Keep up the great work and thank you
How about a top 10 trolling motor video
I live in Western Pennsylvania and we have a lot of limited horsepower lakes. I currently have three tiller boats. One is a Carolina Skiff J16 with a 18 hp Tohatsu it has over 500 hours on it and still runs great. I also have to 50 hp tillers one is a 1985 Mariner still runs great had it on a 17 ft. Pro Angler Lund but just changed it out and now have a Mercury 50 hp four stroke. They run very similar in speed but I never have to get gas now. It's amazing the fuel milage I get now with the four stroke.
I fish a lot of local tournaments and I do very well with my tiller boats up against everybody with there big bass boats. I used to have a couple of big bass boats but it just got to be to much to change from big boat to limited horse power boat and back to the big boat. All in one weekend.
I forgot to say the 18 hp has 9.9 stickers on it for limited horse power lakes.
Love this you tube channel.
I'd love to see a least reliable tiller video. My first boat had a 1996 Evinrude 25. I ran mud through it, ran it out of the water, ran it into rocks and stumps; It never broke down. I did have some starter solenoid issues, but that was because my battery cables were loose and burning up the solenoid. I like to see some more shop life videos at some point.
My favorite was a 2005 Yamaha 15 hp, mixed the fuel 75:1 instead of 100:1 as recommended. Never had an issue with it.
Mercury 40 , 50 , 60 4 stroke efi !
Are those the ones made by Tohatsu?
@@Jerry-sy8rd My understanding is Tohatsu made the 30 hp and smaller outboards for mercury and the early 40,50 and 60 hp were made with a joint venture with yamaha .
I currently have a Johnson 15 HP that’s a 1975. Before the piss tube.
I had 9.9 to 30 hp tiller Mercury,Johnson and my favorite❤ is the 30 Yamaha 3 cylinder and still running strong
Tohatsu 50 m50d2 same as mercury 50 Xr lightening (maybe only export). Used in the thunder cat racing also
Around 2000 I bought a Criscraft Caper 16'9" and put a 90hp Johnson 2 stroke on it. Ran it for 5 years and had the dealer service it once a year. It ran like a top and pushed that boat along to +45 MPH. Fairly good on fuel and the Criscraft Caper really cut through the waves smoothly. Whoever engineered that Hull needs to do more boats like that. Larger would be better of course. My next boat will likely be something with a heavier alluminium hull - For the Great Lakes.
2000 30hp Suzuki 👍🏻
Mercury 8-15 hp 2 stroke. Excellent outboard!
I've go a 90's Yamaha Pro 60 two stroke and it is a 3 cylinder. Not a 2 or a 4. The tiller Pro came new with a stainless prop. I've heard that some have had issues with head gaskets. but they are very strong engines for their rating. I've had no problems with mine. I want to eliminate the oil injection and start mixing my gas to avoid potential problems. Would you do a video on that procedure?
Tohatsu since they also make mercurys outboard to 40 hp tohatsu also makes engines for other manufacturers they are reliable and durable. Any tillervoutjoard tohatsu must be in conversation simply for reason thier engines are used by so many others as thier own.
How old do you suggest the mercury 25 hp 2 stroke? I have a 86 ish 25hp xd. Runs great but scared to take it out
Had a johnson gt that fricken ripped. Think it was a 25 hp. Went 35 mph in my 14 foot deep v back in the day
Happy Friday everyone
Yamaha C40 2 Cyl. 2 Stroke!!! You can't kill them...
I have a 97 mariner magnum 40 hp tiller two stroke, what's your opinion on it .
Most reliable engine I've owned has to be Tohatsu engines.
Tohatsu 50hp 4 stroke and 25hp Yamaha 2 stroke.
My favorite motor of all time is the 2002 Yamaha 50hp. Oiler delete and let ‘er eat
Never,under any circumstance buy a force
FORCE!
1990s yamaha 15hp tiller
Mercury/Mariner 9.9hp
20-25 yamaha 2stroke!
What about tohatsu
6hp Johnson. 70-80's
And I recommend that mid-eighties Johnson, 9.9 and 15. The reason why is those are really fast really liable. I did blow ahead gasket, but other than that. Absolutely awesome motors that 9.9 horse was Faster than most Mercury 15.
So great first outboard it was my first outboard as a kid
Don’t get the 2014 up 9.9-20hp Suzuki EFI outboards I have one and have had nothing but constant issues typically related to the high-pressure fuel pump, getting clogged up by the absolute slightest bit of dirt or water looking on the forms and online most other people that own it are having the same issue, but there is no quality information out to help consumers really figure out how to work on these engines properly and truly fix them without having to pull the high pressure fuel pump completely apart and clean it after every three times using the boat.
My buddy also had a similar experience with his 2018, Suzuki 25 hp EFI
I had a 94 40hp merc 4 cylinder 2 stroke - it was the most reliable ever ... until my 90 Yamaha SHO tiller. You need at least one 70-90hp tiller. I vote the 90 SHO
1) Mercury 25 Two Stroke
2) Suzuki 40/50/60 Four Stroke (precovid-modern)
3) Mercury 40/50 Mariner (3 cylinder 96-00’)
4) Yamaha 50/60/70 Two Stroke (2000s square cowling)
5) Johnson/Evinrude 40 (short - 20” shaft)
6) Johnson/Evinrude 25/35
7) Johnson/Evinrude 15 (84’-up)
8) Honda Four Stroke EFI
I’ve had a lot of tiller handle motors over the years, here are some quick comments on them.
1989 Merc 25 2 stroke-great Motor, still own it.
1990s Evinrude 40 2 stroke, lots of issues, sold it.
1993 Yamaha 40 (3cyl) 2 stroke, amazing motor, sold it for more than I paid for it.
2008 Yamaha 25 2 stroke, great motor, sold to get a 4 stroke.
2008 Merc 25 4 stroke EFI, great motor, still running strong.
2020 Yamaha 25 4 stroke, so far I love it.
2019 Yamaha 20 4 stroke, been great so far.
Also had one of those 80's models 15hp evinrudes. That was a great little motor. Had it on a 14' Grumman aluminum skiff. Sweet little bass fishing rig. Always worked. Sold it running great.
2021 Mercury EFI Prokicker 9.9hp: I bought it used for my jonboat with 10 hours on it. Since then, I had to have the impeller and fuel pump replaced. Mercury took care of both repairs under warranty at no cost to me, but still what a pain! Motor runs great now (very quiet) but I’m worried what’s gonna break on it next. I only have a few months left on the warranty.
I have two Evinrude 6's and had a Mercury 9.9 and Johnson 30. All were two stroke and worked well. The Johnson 30 was a '93, my first outboard and the newest of the bunch. All of these motors has worked well. The 9.9 Mercury would rip on a 1236 tin jon boat.
I love the 40/50hp tohatsu 2stroke I have a 40hp I just can’t get over reliable only things they are little hard to start from cold. Once they are going they just run hard.
My second would be Honda 40/50/60 all efi
My number 3 would be Suzuki 40/50/60 then 75 right up to 300hp.
Same with Honda 115 right up to 250hp
Mercury efi 2 strokes v6 2.5 litre sound like
Bad ass
My other mercury outboards is the 75hp up 150hp. Four stroke efi grate engines
Last of not less evinrude oil injection 115hp 2stroke that was made in BRP just before the etacs came out I don’t think evinrude made a lot of them but I think it’s still the best outboard. Soiled motor.
Just one more 75hp 90hp 2stroke grate outboards. That’s my list.
2 stroke evinrude was a beast 9.9 upped to 15 for PA--circa 1990. Replaced with a 20 hp merc 4 stroke efi. No smoke, push button start, power trim. I am a happy old man.
My dad bought brand new 81' johnson seahorse 15 2 stroke. The first time using it he threw it over the transom and dropped in the lake, removed spark plugs to clear cylinders out. From that day on its still running flawlessly. I would add to the list my 1988 yamaha 90 2 stroke. Bought it used with unknown hours, compression was good. Hook up gas and runs unreal. 4 years of just regular servicing. I would also add 2015 yamaha 25 4 stroke. Another smooth runner, easy dial in idle rpm and good top end speed with 3 ppl
I am running a 2004 Johnson 30hp has been awesome pull start. Starts easy from 17F going duck hunting to 100F fishing in summer. First start of day two pulls most times after that one pull.
Yamaha 15 and 25 2 stroke, you can't kill em! ThatBoatGuy here on YT proved it 😂 than you have the Yamaha Enduro engines .. they're on another level. Johnson/Evinrude definitely deserve their place too, my dad has a 78 Johnson 35 seahorse that's still running with zero issues, we guess that engine has a minimum of 4k hours on it. We have a family friend that's a commercial crabber and he's running around on a late 80s/early 90s tohatsu 2 stroke (not sure HP...maybe 40) and he beats the absolute shit out of it and it starts up and runs flawlessly.
Andy said 90 and under well I’m going to list my dream outboards one doesn’t fit Andy rules. My dream outboards in the future I hope 115S tiller Suzuki next a 50-60 hp tiller Zuki. Now to the tiller I have messed with or owned . 7.5-10hp Honda white cowling blue mid yellow prop. 55 Johnson 5.5hp 57 7.5 Evinrude 58 18hp Evinrude. 90s Evinrude 25hp sweet engine merc there older stuff garbage for salt water corrosion protection what corrosion protection. The 60s 70s early 80s engines rot away in Florida. When the 25 XD came out that about when merc found corrosion protection. Don’t worry Yama and Zuki had there corrosion issues. Now merc lesson to people that never drove a granny geared 4 speed transmission. Merc are made by Tohatsu old merc a 20hp was called a 200 a 40hp merc was called 402 those things Corroded in Fl saltwater also that nice 25 on Andy list that shifter mechanism goes to hell cause Of saltwater n salt air
I bought a new 35 hp 2 stroke 3 cylinder (Mirage) in 1997. It’s had some work done to it. That thing has been bullet proof. I’m an Arkansas duck hunter, so it’s seen some time. Parts are getting a little hard to find now. It runs like a raped ape for what it is, the torque is unbelievable. I’m thinking about going over to a 4 stroke, maybe a 40 hp Suzuki or Tohatsu and do an ECU reflash. We’ll see.
That 25 hp mercury 2 stroke 2 cylinder is bullet proof also. Couple buddies running those down here. They won’t quite.
Suzuki dt40, sunk in the salt for a week...ran for 2 more years, did seize though
Currently running an old 87 Mariner 30hp, cant kill it. Lower unit off it three times, who knows how many props. Son ran for a day fishing once wihout oil, still starts cold on the thrid pull...its a Yamaha clone though.
Im looking at one of the new Tohatsu 30s or a Suzuki 30...there close to the same weight in long shaft with pt/t. Getting older always wanted Pt/t, the Tohatsu has that skinny little lower unit, kinda scares me.
Forgot to add, the 80s era evinrude johnson 9.9 / 15hp...there everywhere still running strong.