@whitefang4566 yes, jedi lighting is the least potent in the terms of the damage it causes. But it comes from righteous anger (indignation) so you could still say its force lightning
I still rally wanna know how Luke walked past those royal guards with an injured Vader on the deathstar! In “Crimson Empire” those guards were Palpatine fanatics and I don’t see them just turning around and leaving after He was gone!
@@rayat895 He did , but I imagine they were right outside of the door. And in the deleted scene they were ready to fight Vader for trying to enter his throne room when Moff JerJerrod told him not to enter. So I would like to think if Luke came out carrying Vader they would’ve attacked!
Also the guards probably thought they had zero chance of winning if Luke just beat Vader and Palpatine at the same time. Which they didn't see the fight so that's all what they would've assumed
@@yggunshot8402 Yeah bro, these royal/shadow guards are all bark. Overhyping them in fanfics called legends, same with Boba Fett. Don't get me wrong, I absolutely love some of the things in legends but these stuff are just ridiculous and doesn't make the original trilogy much sense.
It's just my Legends fandom shining through, but this video sort of made me miss the Sovereign Protectors; Force-sensitive Royal Guards who protected assets on off the records planets, like the Emperor's cloning facilities, and such. It was one thing to be expected to protect the Emperor from potential harm, even though he was rarely in any danger, but another thing altogether to be ordered by him to forgo that imperative, and protect things he valued more than his life, such as his contingency plans.
It would be cool to see an assassination attempt on Palpatine in andor and see the royal guard fight the assassin and being in that time frame it could be a jedi, great video as always
The Various Guards that Palpatine created, including the Sun Guards are some of my favorite Organizations in Star Wars, I wished Valkorion had created some.
This video makes me miss the expanded universe even more as the Shadow Guards and just about everything in the force unleashed was such a good concept barring the obvious rebellion plothole it'd make for canon star wars
Not necessarily a plot hole if you think about it. They don't show up in canon, but that's not a problem if you consider the fact that we don't know much from Coruscant after the Empire rose. Vader trains Inquisitors, while Sidious used fallen Jedi/captured Sentinels as guards and main assassins. Their actions could be turned into propaganda against the Jedi while removing certain rivals. For people like Mon Mothma, he could discredit her thanks to the Declaration of 2000
Trust me I would love that but Disney is not going to do it that seems like it'd actually be good for star wars as Galen could save the entire canon expanded universe
I have always suspected that the Red Guard were secretly Force sensitive. Like Vader and Palpatines secret "Prove you have what it takes to be Sith" Cult. The Shadow Guard I always suspected were like rank 2. Not yet enough but they have earned a bit more Sith Knowledge. Teaching every Shadow Guard Force Lightning was probably Sidious way of telling the Inquisitors that they suck. If they truly wanted more they would prove it.
I would've loved reading a comic about how during their test of loyalty, the victor refused to kill his/her friend so he/she makes a run for it and now their being hunted down across the known ring as a traitor. There's so much creative potential here, the royal guards are so interesting! They don't even need to be a renegade, the story could follow their pov and thoughts during their service to palpatine and vader
Idk, the bad guy who goes rogue story feels overcooked now. It'd be like The Force Awakens. Although you can definitely make it better and maybe more philosophical or something.
I read the motion comic Crimson Empire and I got to say well for what seems like the third time in my life I'm actually agreeing with you. The Royal Guards were Miles Ahead of the inquisitors and they weren't force sensitive.
Hope they can show case the red and black guards in a live-action movie/series. Would be amazing to see them in action and also interact with the Inquisitors and Lord Vader.
I hope that one day we will get a series about the Royal Guard they are just too awesome to ignored. Let me see one just decimating a whole army please.
I think there was one made years ago when a rogue Shadow Guard took over sect of the Imperial navy and army, and destroyed his formers brothers of the Red Guard; ones that are still loyal to Palpatine after his death. I believe it’s called Crimson Empire?
@@smdavis6604 I mean, its what I remember and when the end of the story came about the villain was definitely a former Shadow Guard with the outfit, fighting, and force lighting. Was it not mentioned that most Shadow Guardsmen are force sensitive? Well, if I remember right he had said he self taught himself with whatever texts or material he could find
ok it is a good play on palpatine's part when it comes to treating the red-guard. he knows he cannot expect that kind of loyalty from those he treats mere like objects. sure it might for brainwashing purposes but even that has limits. when the man that literally rules the entire galaxy you live in actually goes as far as meeting you in person or treating you in actual dignity when he has no reason to, is a reason enough for any hardcore loyalist to go as far as red-guard did.
I’ve always loved the Royal Guard and glad they have a step up on most Inquisitors. Definitely sharing this video if I ever get into a lore argument again!
The thing that kills me about storm troopers is that it's a misconception of them as a whole, they were rarely seen in most galactic conflict because they were specifically shock troopers, it's essentially like being a space marine. A few times they would police planets that were still in opposition to the empires rule but otherwise, if you ever saw a storm trooper, you were in serious heaps of trouble
As far as I know, the idea of a less well-equipped Imperial Army appeared in the Disney canon and it makes no sense to me. Throughout ALL of the movies except for Solo, we see Stormtroopers acting as standard semi-disposable infantry and police. That'd be like the US Army using Rangers as MPs. Then you have the COUNTLESS Stormtrooper variants and more elite units.
One of them also was directly responsible for the final death of the Emperor due to forming a conspiracy under Sidious's nose that he never suspected that sabotaged his clone bodies. This Royal Guard and Sovereign Protector would briefly become Emperor until being slain in a duel with the last surviving Royal Guard.
@@laisphinto6372 having an Emperor's Hand and two Dark Side Adepts betray him while escorting him in said shuttle. Telekinesis and the element of surprise does even the playing field against the Royal Guard significantly.
The Guard training really seems reminiscent of the Sith academy on Korriban in KOTOR. Brutality, backstabbing, and brainwashing. Maybe that's why they were stronger. They were closer to the Sith of old, trained in combat and then immersed in the dark side once they had proven themselves worthy of such teaching. The Inquisitors, on the other hand, were less trained in the dark side itself, and more in resisting the light. They were former Jedi, meant to use their Jedi training to predict the movements and actions of Jedi.
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So their force pikes seemed to be able to mimic force abilities like in the Last Episode of Rebels where they levitate Ezra Bridger after he destroys that gateway thing.
He probably would’ve kept Dooku or turned one of the Soviergn protectors into a full fledged Sith. And if Luke were a Sith it would kind of depend on what he did to get there. Most likely he killed his father and sister or he would have to. I couldn’t see him killing Leia but if Vader killed Leia I could see him killing Vader in his rage and that turning him to the dark side. So I’d say Darth Ultorius, Ultor being Latin for Avenger, and most likely he would overthrow Palpatine and rule as sole Emperor guiding the Galaxy to an Era of relative stability. Since I think the thing driving him in the dark side would be a blood thirsty need for justice. He would be a very much the ends justify the means type of villain as opposed to truly evil.
God I loved these guys. I always wished back in the day in Star Wars Galaxies if you got a high enough rank in the Empire that you'd be able to get their armor but it was never possible, I used to fantasize about being a master TK or Pikeman beating the crap out of rebels wearing Red Guard armor. Probably can on these new modded emulators but OG swg it wasn't possible.
Funny thing is they barely have any screen time. A show about Kir Kanos and Carner Jax would be great, but it would require Episode 7, 8 and 9 to be retconned because their conflict takes place after the second death star destruction.
Most Inquisitor's fighting style Vader mentions is they fight like they default go on the defense and not even create an opening(often missing the opportunity to strike) to swing and hit.
crikey, these guys were crazy in legends. in the finale of Rebels, their force pikes seem to literally use the force, perhaps in the new canon they actually are force sensitive.
One of the reasons why I’ve always liked the Royal guards over the inquisitors is simply, because while some members of the royal guards were canonically, fought to be mildly force sensitive it was never very much. The inquisitors on the other hand are a very big risk, because they are all former Jedi. This means that they have a much greater understanding of the force and of course have the ability to work with it. But at the same time that is also a bit bit of a crutch. Think about it this way. Would it be more terrifying to see an inquisitor coming at you or see a individual in bright Crimson robes and armor coming at you knowing that even though this individual probably isn’t for sensitive they are still fast enough skilled enough to take you down, even if you yourself can use force abilities. I think that’s what makes them far more terrifying. Not only that, but you don’t know what they look like. And you don’t know if they are male or female or anything. And while they aren’t canonically speaking to everybody else, they don’t even know if the royal guardsare sentient creatures they could be droids.
I guess to ever rarely seen a red guard fight at all, my imagination would fill up the gaps, and above all else, the Red Guards have the coolest suit, they don't move, barely have a stance, yet they look badass af In fact, I don't want any movie/series source to use Red Guards more than in appearance, because I know for a fact that they will just destroy every bit of esteem I have for them.
Well what they lack in Force abilities they make up for in elite training, physical conditioning, an their discipline and devotion.. The Inquisition, even if it WASN'T by design, they lacked most of the presaid an had agendas an even grudges of their own. An most of them weren't nearly as strong far as we know as most Jedi counterparts
Apparently those guards were only Senate Guards Palpatine trusted during the Republic, those were not the same guards he’s talking about in this video.
6:48 to 9:23 The different types of Imperial Royal guards we saw in the Force Unleashed were so cool. They are definitely more interesting than the Inquisitors, in most ways.
It would also be logical to assume the shadow guard would kinda be like the hidden hand of the emperor where not much is supposed to be known about them. Even Star Killer was the result of a secret operation that maybe warranted the use of the shadow guard.
Did Darth Vader truly duels with the Royal red guard in canon??? Actually keep in mind that Anakin started when he was Nine yrs old. 3 Yrs later he shown honed and skill with the blade as a Padawan, Learning ataru Under Obi-wan Kenobi; even at 20yrs. old Anakin was regarded as the higher end of skill as a Swordsmen duelist(being a level 7 in the skill that nick Gillard is mentioning) level 7 combat are very skilled beings with their weapon. Anakin trained under obi-wan and went on many missions(maybe they have time to practice), at 20yrs for chronological age(like The attack of the clones film.) His ataru skill is combined after being knighted, also after that He Practiced shien/Djem so of both variants, he made up his mind for that to answer Count Dooku(who was testing him in all of the encounters, requested by palpatine). He used Ataru(Acrobatics and fast swings often spins from far enough) and shien(tight sweeping and batting swings while) at the time before his 20th yr. Basically 11yrs of training+ clone wars and sparring with his master and with his padawan Asoka and others, several times Yoda. I wonder how he would fare against, fencers(of any kind), kendo masters(of any kind), Kenjitsu fighters. Darth Vader's training consist of Battering defensive swordfighters like soresu users specifically, using Djem so using form 5 and refining the bladework properly as the form describes and moving and approaching slowly, and marching fast in front when on the offense of a retreating fighter and mixing it up with variety of strikes and sometimes attempt to do disarm movements(can be countered by disengaging or move the weapon out faster), mixing with Soresu(learning from his Jedi master) and Makashi(after Vader's negative feelings for Obi-wan dissapates he starts to focus on refining his ability more towards the one handed swings like a fencer would do(he will do Djem so too) Anakin didn't combat day and night at the total time of 11 yrs(of 365 days each yrs) he of course may practice alot, yet of course he dueled and sparred many sessions, same with Darth Vader(he practiced alot and lived 20 more yrs. later) how many hours is shown by their skill.
If you read the comics, they survived Vader's training and final duel. Most likely Vader chose them because he can still beat them. If Carnor Jax was chosen by Vader&wasn't instantly killed by being force sensitive, it's likely that the other Royal Guard are also force sensitives too but isn't trained. That extra force sensitivity gives them an extra edge in combat against other attackers but not enough against Vader himself which is probably what Palpy and Vader really wanted as maybe a potential dark side acolytes but trained more in non-lightsaber combat&survive.
Well it makes sense that the royal guard would be better then a glorified jedi hunter, I mean do you really want someone as unstable as an inquisitor to be on level with the royal guard? God no you want the royal guard to be able to make them piss in an instant and have the ability to take on Vader too
The red guard might be worth 40 stormtrooper, however does one red guard actually equal to 40 storm troopers firepower? That's a question I am intrigued by
I proposed the First Order Templars as a form of enemy in an idea I had for a Star Wars animated series set in all three eras. They would’ve been a mix of the Royal Guard and Inquisitors and played more of a role than the Knights Of Ren did.
In legends we see the guards do more and more badass. The inquisitors are no match. Even hunting Jedi they have to travel in groups bc they are too weak and incompetent to face anyone with real skill. I’d take the royal guards any day. My favorite variant of the royal guards is the imperial knights in legends. I think they are force sensitive, they have lightsabers, and their armor is the best look.
It might be the case that the Red Royal Guard has not much failures recorded compared to the Inquisition is due to the fact that not much mission is given to the former to fail from. Also, in terms of Combat Mission & Objective, I would still weigh in favor of that given to the Inquisition, since they are tasked to search and destroy one the most (if not the most) powerful beings in the universe
Can you maube do a video about the jedi thought about the different darkside cults around the galaxy? like did they try to destroy them, did they ignore them completly, or did they watch them closely?
I'm seeing parallel's between the inquisitors and Kung Pow now. Vader: My master why do you insist on taking in these failed Jedi Palpatine: I train them badly, as a joke
i did see a video once about different miniclorien counts, it was speculated that Han solo had a count that wasent hige enough to be acctivly force sensitive but he was in the tier just below, it sounds like that guard might be the same or have been so weak in the force that he wasent trained. dont forget there is force sensitives that is REALY weak in the force like scout i think her name is (the jedi padowan that was considerd the weakest in the force, but acctualy managed to win the tournament that was held between the younglings that was about to be accept in the padowan ranks.
It's poor oversight to litter the starwars universe with force sensitives then have it controlled under sidious and vader's rule of two, but then train a bunch of force sensitives with dark side skills. The dark side is supposed to have an alluring draw of power that delivers quickly. All the fallen jedi should be leagues more powerful than people like Cal Kestis, Ezra, and Kanan who were either padawans or untrained when their progress was severely stunted by order 66 and the rise of the empire. Meanwhile, the fallen Jedi should have only exponentially progressed by tapping into the dark side and continuing their training (even if deliberately limited) by Vader and Sidious. There are just too many contradictions to make sense
That’s bound to happen when content is added and removed retroactively by a multitude of different content contributors. Lack of cohesion Is the result.
Don't know, I think that is how all Force vs Non-Force Star Wars battles should go. I've always said that if I had been in Obi Wan's place on Kamino for the Jango Fett fight, it would've lasted all of 5 seconds. The very instant he activated his jet pack and his feet left the deck, I would've force crushed his testicles and hauled his ass back down to ground level.
The Inquisitors never got proper training to counter strong Jedi, Such as Cal, Cere, Etc. Some of The Inquisitors had Potential close to that of Ezra Bridger
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Can Vader use force lightning? I've always thought he could not, although I can't recall if it was through choice, limitation due to his armour (electronics, etc) or Palpatine not teaching him. If I'm right, who would have taught that ability to the Shadows? The emperor would surely have been too busy with other matters to be a teacher.
He only used force lightning once. But perhaps it would be best if he didn’t, in case they ever decided to rebel. Vader suit is vulnerable to electricity.
I’m sure he is why the emperor didn’t send some of his red royal guard or shadow guard after the ghost crew after all they were starting to become a huge thorn in his side.
Not only did Shadow guards use force lightning....they used PURPLE force lightning, just like Palpatine....
"Purple" lightning is the same as normal lightning
@@darthbane5357 no. No it’s not. It’s also a different variant of force lightning just like the other colors….they all have different meanings.
@@darthbane5357 purple is the 2nd most powerful, between green blue purple and red
@whitefang4566 yes, jedi lighting is the least potent in the terms of the damage it causes. But it comes from righteous anger (indignation) so you could still say its force lightning
@@jacobhaslam5223 emerald lightning or electric judgement
I still rally wanna know how Luke walked past those royal guards with an injured Vader on the deathstar! In “Crimson Empire” those guards were Palpatine fanatics and I don’t see them just turning around and leaving after He was gone!
He did order them to leave.
@@rayat895 He did , but I imagine they were right outside of the door. And in the deleted scene they were ready to fight Vader for trying to enter his throne room when Moff JerJerrod told him not to enter. So I would like to think if Luke came out carrying Vader they would’ve attacked!
They were heading for the unemployment line.
If u was a guard seeing anyone carrying a busted up Vader around.. id leave. Just go. Goal.. be in a different room.
Also the guards probably thought they had zero chance of winning if Luke just beat Vader and Palpatine at the same time. Which they didn't see the fight so that's all what they would've assumed
The Royal/Shadow Guards were so much more interesting/powerful than those brother/sister force rejects.
Agreed these are the inquisitors we deserve
Yeah, I've read the force unleashed novelization. Can confirm that the shadow guards aren't that strong in the force at all.
@@yggunshot8402 Yeah bro, these royal/shadow guards are all bark. Overhyping them in fanfics called legends, same with Boba Fett. Don't get me wrong, I absolutely love some of the things in legends but these stuff are just ridiculous and doesn't make the original trilogy much sense.
Eeyup.
We're they actually ??? Always thought they looked cool. How so??
I really hope the guards and their many variants will be more seen including their actual skill.
U get to fight a few shadow guards and red guards throughout TFU, it’s quite nice
The closes we got in the movies is a ROTJ deleted scene where they standoff with Vader
Eeyup.
@@lowbeam5005 Yeah, they were fun to fight.
because they have no skill. They are guards from BEFORE Palpatine came to power, established from Phantom Menace by George Lucas.
It's just my Legends fandom shining through, but this video sort of made me miss the Sovereign Protectors; Force-sensitive Royal Guards who protected assets on off the records planets, like the Emperor's cloning facilities, and such. It was one thing to be expected to protect the Emperor from potential harm, even though he was rarely in any danger, but another thing altogether to be ordered by him to forgo that imperative, and protect things he valued more than his life, such as his contingency plans.
Well there are sovereign guards in the trilogy that shall not be named....
@@thesithofearth3617 they were pretenders nothing more.
@@thesithofearth3617 where?
Yeah, if you saw a sovereign protector on your planet, you knew that everyone who saw them was going to die soon.
@@thesithofearth3617I think you mean red-clad ragdolls. True Sovereign Protectors would have kicked both Rey and Ben’s butts.
It would be cool to see an assassination attempt on Palpatine in andor and see the royal guard fight the assassin and being in that time frame it could be a jedi, great video as always
I hope so , cause so far fuck all has happened in Andor
That would have been so out of place lmao
The Various Guards that Palpatine created, including the Sun Guards are some of my favorite Organizations in Star Wars, I wished Valkorion had created some.
Sun Guards were a mercenary group.
Sidious never had the Sun Guards, that was Darth Plagueis
Valkorion created the Knights of Zakuul.
Think you mean Saber Guard, but I agree with you
This video makes me miss the expanded universe even more as the Shadow Guards and just about everything in the force unleashed was such a good concept barring the obvious rebellion plothole it'd make for canon star wars
Not necessarily a plot hole if you think about it. They don't show up in canon, but that's not a problem if you consider the fact that we don't know much from Coruscant after the Empire rose. Vader trains Inquisitors, while Sidious used fallen Jedi/captured Sentinels as guards and main assassins.
Their actions could be turned into propaganda against the Jedi while removing certain rivals. For people like Mon Mothma, he could discredit her thanks to the Declaration of 2000
Trust me I would love that but Disney is not going to do it that seems like it'd actually be good for star wars as Galen could save the entire canon expanded universe
I have always suspected that the Red Guard were secretly Force sensitive. Like Vader and Palpatines secret "Prove you have what it takes to be Sith" Cult.
The Shadow Guard I always suspected were like rank 2. Not yet enough but they have earned a bit more Sith Knowledge.
Teaching every Shadow Guard Force Lightning was probably Sidious way of telling the Inquisitors that they suck. If they truly wanted more they would prove it.
this is good
I’d actually love for Disney to do a series focusing on the royal guard, or shadow guard.
Why so they can ruin them?
@@funkmasterfunk1221 hard to argue after what we’ve seen done with the Acolyte.
I would've loved reading a comic about how during their test of loyalty, the victor refused to kill his/her friend so he/she makes a run for it and now their being hunted down across the known ring as a traitor. There's so much creative potential here, the royal guards are so interesting! They don't even need to be a renegade, the story could follow their pov and thoughts during their service to palpatine and vader
Check out Crimson empire, it’s a great comic about everything that you mentioned
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If they did refuse I highly doubt they'd make it far. Palpatine would probably have Vader there, who would instantly kill them.
Idk, the bad guy who goes rogue story feels overcooked now. It'd be like The Force Awakens. Although you can definitely make it better and maybe more philosophical or something.
I read the motion comic Crimson Empire and I got to say well for what seems like the third time in my life I'm actually agreeing with you. The Royal Guards were Miles Ahead of the inquisitors and they weren't force sensitive.
I love that series!!!! So awesome and deep.
I also rarely agree with him. Lol 😆
Except that isn’t the case in legends
Hope they can show case the red and black guards in a live-action movie/series. Would be amazing to see them in action and also interact with the Inquisitors and Lord Vader.
They would only mess it up. They are best left in the E.U.
@@riftvallance2087 Most likely true, but one can hope and dream still :D
I hope that one day we will get a series about the Royal Guard they are just too awesome to ignored. Let me see one just decimating a whole army please.
I think there was one made years ago when a rogue Shadow Guard took over sect of the Imperial navy and army, and destroyed his formers brothers of the Red Guard; ones that are still loyal to Palpatine after his death.
I believe it’s called Crimson Empire?
@@droidmaker7932 I meant in a tv show.
@@droidmaker7932 I believe the was a sovereign protector, not a Shadow Guard.
@@smdavis6604 I mean, its what I remember and when the end of the story came about the villain was definitely a former Shadow Guard with the outfit, fighting, and force lighting. Was it not mentioned that most Shadow Guardsmen are force sensitive? Well, if I remember right he had said he self taught himself with whatever texts or material he could find
@@calebmetcalfe6998 right…
ok it is a good play on palpatine's part when it comes to treating the red-guard. he knows he cannot expect that kind of loyalty from those he treats mere like objects. sure it might for brainwashing purposes but even that has limits. when the man that literally rules the entire galaxy you live in actually goes as far as meeting you in person or treating you in actual dignity when he has no reason to, is a reason enough for any hardcore loyalist to go as far as red-guard did.
THIS IS OUTRAGEOUS
Its unfair
How could you be in the council and not be a master
@@blade1425 Take a seat young Skywalker
I’ve always loved the Royal Guard and glad they have a step up on most Inquisitors. Definitely sharing this video if I ever get into a lore argument again!
The thing that kills me about storm troopers is that it's a misconception of them as a whole, they were rarely seen in most galactic conflict because they were specifically shock troopers, it's essentially like being a space marine. A few times they would police planets that were still in opposition to the empires rule but otherwise, if you ever saw a storm trooper, you were in serious heaps of trouble
As far as I know, the idea of a less well-equipped Imperial Army appeared in the Disney canon and it makes no sense to me. Throughout ALL of the movies except for Solo, we see Stormtroopers acting as standard semi-disposable infantry and police. That'd be like the US Army using Rangers as MPs.
Then you have the COUNTLESS Stormtrooper variants and more elite units.
One of them also was directly responsible for the final death of the Emperor due to forming a conspiracy under Sidious's nose that he never suspected that sabotaged his clone bodies. This Royal Guard and Sovereign Protector would briefly become Emperor until being slain in a duel with the last surviving Royal Guard.
come to think of it how did you manage to briefly catch palpatine with those red chads in your way or did you just capture the shuttle?
@@laisphinto6372 having an Emperor's Hand and two Dark Side Adepts betray him while escorting him in said shuttle. Telekinesis and the element of surprise does even the playing field against the Royal Guard significantly.
I have a crimson empire graphic novel with all of them in one book. One of my favorite pieces of SW content
Nice, I have the crimson empire 1, only 6 issues comics, especially crimson empire 2 council of blood.
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The Guard training really seems reminiscent of the Sith academy on Korriban in KOTOR. Brutality, backstabbing, and brainwashing. Maybe that's why they were stronger. They were closer to the Sith of old, trained in combat and then immersed in the dark side once they had proven themselves worthy of such teaching. The Inquisitors, on the other hand, were less trained in the dark side itself, and more in resisting the light. They were former Jedi, meant to use their Jedi training to predict the movements and actions of Jedi.
Unless you’re a royal guard during TLJ..
Damn burn 🔥 😂
"Trained to the point of being Force-resistant".
**Yoda has entered the chat**
"I hear, a new apprentice you have, Emperor."
4:33 This image of the Imperial Sovereign Protector looks dope
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So their force pikes seemed to be able to mimic force abilities like in the Last Episode of Rebels where they levitate Ezra Bridger after he destroys that gateway thing.
I like it when Palpatine acts like a politician and not a supervillain. Like treating his guards with respect
What was Sudious back up plan if Anakin didn't turn to the Dark Side ? And what would Luke Sith name be ?
Darth Irluuk
Darth Traitorous.
He probably would’ve kept Dooku or turned one of the Soviergn protectors into a full fledged Sith. And if Luke were a Sith it would kind of depend on what he did to get there. Most likely he killed his father and sister or he would have to. I couldn’t see him killing Leia but if Vader killed Leia I could see him killing Vader in his rage and that turning him to the dark side. So I’d say Darth Ultorius, Ultor being Latin for Avenger, and most likely he would overthrow Palpatine and rule as sole Emperor guiding the Galaxy to an Era of relative stability. Since I think the thing driving him in the dark side would be a blood thirsty need for justice. He would be a very much the ends justify the means type of villain as opposed to truly evil.
God I loved these guys. I always wished back in the day in Star Wars Galaxies if you got a high enough rank in the Empire that you'd be able to get their armor but it was never possible, I used to fantasize about being a master TK or Pikeman beating the crap out of rebels wearing Red Guard armor. Probably can on these new modded emulators but OG swg it wasn't possible.
Darth Sidious: would you like to remove you helmet.
Royal guard: . . . Is this a test my lord?
Darth Sidious : No
Royal Guards: "takes off helmet"
Darth Sidous: "killed the Royal guard"
Funny thing is they barely have any screen time. A show about Kir Kanos and Carner Jax would be great, but it would require Episode 7, 8 and 9 to be retconned because their conflict takes place after the second death star destruction.
There's still a few decades between 6 and 7 to work with
I would honestly love a scene in a Star Wars movie or tv show where a shadow guard puts an inquisitor in their place.
Most Inquisitor's fighting style Vader mentions is they fight like they default go on the defense and not even create an opening(often missing the opportunity to strike) to swing and hit.
crikey, these guys were crazy in legends.
in the finale of Rebels, their force pikes seem to literally use the force, perhaps in the new canon they actually are force sensitive.
One of the reasons why I’ve always liked the Royal guards over the inquisitors is simply, because while some members of the royal guards were canonically, fought to be mildly force sensitive it was never very much. The inquisitors on the other hand are a very big risk, because they are all former Jedi. This means that they have a much greater understanding of the force and of course have the ability to work with it. But at the same time that is also a bit bit of a crutch.
Think about it this way. Would it be more terrifying to see an inquisitor coming at you or see a individual in bright Crimson robes and armor coming at you knowing that even though this individual probably isn’t for sensitive they are still fast enough skilled enough to take you down, even if you yourself can use force abilities. I think that’s what makes them far more terrifying. Not only that, but you don’t know what they look like. And you don’t know if they are male or female or anything. And while they aren’t canonically speaking to everybody else, they don’t even know if the royal guardsare sentient creatures they could be droids.
I guess to ever rarely seen a red guard fight at all, my imagination would fill up the gaps, and above all else, the Red Guards have the coolest suit, they don't move, barely have a stance, yet they look badass af
In fact, I don't want any movie/series source to use Red Guards more than in appearance, because I know for a fact that they will just destroy every bit of esteem I have for them.
Well what they lack in Force abilities they make up for in elite training, physical conditioning, an their discipline and devotion..
The Inquisition, even if it WASN'T by design, they lacked most of the presaid an had agendas an even grudges of their own. An most of them weren't nearly as strong far as we know as most Jedi counterparts
Yoda did away with two of them when walking through a doorway, easier than if they were stormtroopers. Impressed he was not.
Apparently those guards were only Senate Guards Palpatine trusted during the Republic, those were not the same guards he’s talking about in this video.
6:48 to 9:23 The different types of Imperial Royal guards we saw in the Force Unleashed were so cool. They are definitely more interesting than the Inquisitors, in most ways.
I always loved the Royal guard, fighting them in force unleashed was the closest thing to fighting multiple Sith rather than as a boss!
Them Royal Guards are BADASSES
It would also be logical to assume the shadow guard would kinda be like the hidden hand of the emperor where not much is supposed to be known about them. Even Star Killer was the result of a secret operation that maybe warranted the use of the shadow guard.
The Shadow Guard definitely give the Inquisitors a run for their money, that’s for sure; they were so fun to fight in TFU.
The Red Royal Guards need their own 10 part tv series/ full length film
man watching this makes me want a bodyguard really badly.anyone else?
What about the imperial sovereign protectors?
Whats the difference between the knights of ren and the red guard and would you make a video on it??
Did Darth Vader truly duels with the Royal red guard in canon??? Actually keep in mind that Anakin started when he was Nine yrs old.
3 Yrs later he shown honed and skill with the blade as a Padawan, Learning ataru Under Obi-wan Kenobi; even at 20yrs. old Anakin was regarded as the higher end of skill as a Swordsmen duelist(being a level 7 in the skill that nick Gillard is mentioning) level 7 combat are very skilled beings with their weapon.
Anakin trained under obi-wan and went on many missions(maybe they have time to practice), at 20yrs for chronological age(like The attack of the clones film.) His ataru skill is combined after being knighted, also after that He Practiced shien/Djem so of both variants, he made up his mind for that to answer Count Dooku(who was testing him in all of the encounters, requested by palpatine). He used Ataru(Acrobatics and fast swings often spins from far enough) and shien(tight sweeping and batting swings while) at the time before his 20th yr.
Basically 11yrs of training+ clone wars and sparring with his master and with his padawan Asoka and others, several times Yoda.
I wonder how he would fare against, fencers(of any kind), kendo masters(of any kind), Kenjitsu fighters.
Darth Vader's training consist of Battering defensive swordfighters like soresu users specifically, using Djem so using form 5 and refining the bladework properly as the form describes and moving and approaching slowly, and marching fast in front when on the offense of a retreating fighter and mixing it up with variety of strikes and sometimes attempt to do disarm movements(can be countered by disengaging or move the weapon out faster), mixing with Soresu(learning from his Jedi master) and Makashi(after Vader's negative feelings for Obi-wan dissapates he starts to focus on refining his ability more towards the one handed swings like a fencer would do(he will do Djem so too)
Anakin didn't combat day and night at the total time of 11 yrs(of 365 days each yrs) he of course may practice alot, yet of course he dueled and sparred many sessions, same with Darth Vader(he practiced alot and lived 20 more yrs. later) how many hours is shown by their skill.
i think the shadow guard were to help keep vader in check
If you read the comics, they survived Vader's training and final duel. Most likely Vader chose them because he can still beat them. If Carnor Jax was chosen by Vader&wasn't instantly killed by being force sensitive, it's likely that the other Royal Guard are also force sensitives too but isn't trained. That extra force sensitivity gives them an extra edge in combat against other attackers but not enough against Vader himself which is probably what Palpy and Vader really wanted as maybe a potential dark side acolytes but trained more in non-lightsaber combat&survive.
I think Vader wouldn't let the inquisitors learn to use force lightning, as his suit is vulnerable to electricity.
You can litteraly do a series on Disney about the royal guards , their trianing, missions and final commision becoming a guard.
I never realized how skilled these guys were💀
They look really cool in some of these pics
Yes to the Royal Guards
ORDER 66
Crazy to think that so many good soldiers died because of the training methods. They would at least been a special stormtrooper commando or something.
Well it makes sense that the royal guard would be better then a glorified jedi hunter, I mean do you really want someone as unstable as an inquisitor to be on level with the royal guard? God no you want the royal guard to be able to make them piss in an instant and have the ability to take on Vader too
These guys make the secret service look like mall cops.
The red guard might be worth 40 stormtrooper, however does one red guard actually equal to 40 storm troopers firepower? That's a question I am intrigued by
Firepower? Realistically no
I proposed the First Order Templars as a form of enemy in an idea I had for a Star Wars animated series set in all three eras. They would’ve been a mix of the Royal Guard and Inquisitors and played more of a role than the Knights Of Ren did.
In legends we see the guards do more and more badass. The inquisitors are no match. Even hunting Jedi they have to travel in groups bc they are too weak and incompetent to face anyone with real skill. I’d take the royal guards any day. My favorite variant of the royal guards is the imperial knights in legends. I think they are force sensitive, they have lightsabers, and their armor is the best look.
Imagine Darth nihilus creating mini darth nihiluses that fly around consuming planets for him lmao
Honestly, I'd love a game in which you play a member of the royal guard or inquisition. I think an awesome story could be told that way
Could you do a video on the Echani martial arts you described in this video?
It might be the case that the Red Royal Guard has not much failures recorded compared to the Inquisition is due to the fact that not much mission is given to the former to fail from.
Also, in terms of Combat Mission & Objective, I would still weigh in favor of that given to the Inquisition, since they are tasked to search and destroy one the most (if not the most) powerful beings in the universe
And they failed
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I love how he convinced me to subscribe
I was always curious about this
Can you maube do a video about the jedi thought about the different darkside cults around the galaxy? like did they try to destroy them, did they ignore them completly, or did they watch them closely?
The virgin inquisitors vs the Chad Guards
I'm seeing parallel's between the inquisitors and Kung Pow now.
Vader: My master why do you insist on taking in these failed Jedi
Palpatine: I train them badly, as a joke
What about Force Destruction. And Deadly Sight?
I would love to see a sparing match between the guard and inquisitors
Now this something to know about!🤔👍
3:27 - do one on his cane. Lol. Of course there’s actual info I see now
Sovereign protector vs shadow guard
They’re hard to fight with a lightsaber in LEGO Star Wars. You need to use the force or a bounty hunter bomb to beat them.
I remember the Royal guards in Star Wars Infinites a New Hope that all had Darth Maul's red lightsaber.
We don't see the Shadow Guards a lot simply because they are really few and they are not sent after rebels or Jedi, on which most media focuses
Crimson Empire from Legends is the coolest story!!! The CRIMSON Guard are Badass!!!!! I highly recommend this comic series from Dark Horse Comics!
i did see a video once about different miniclorien counts, it was speculated that Han solo had a count that wasent hige enough to be acctivly force sensitive but he was in the tier just below, it sounds like that guard might be the same or have been so weak in the force that he wasent trained. dont forget there is force sensitives that is REALY weak in the force like scout i think her name is (the jedi padowan that was considerd the weakest in the force, but acctualy managed to win the tournament that was held between the younglings that was about to be accept in the padowan ranks.
You messed some things up, royal guard is Galactic Empire era, red guard is galactic republic era. Red Guard later became Royal Guard.
Those weapons remind me of Ajunta Pall's double-bladed sword.
I wish we'd get to see them actually fight (the Praetorians don't count)
It's poor oversight to litter the starwars universe with force sensitives then have it controlled under sidious and vader's rule of two, but then train a bunch of force sensitives with dark side skills. The dark side is supposed to have an alluring draw of power that delivers quickly. All the fallen jedi should be leagues more powerful than people like Cal Kestis, Ezra, and Kanan who were either padawans or untrained when their progress was severely stunted by order 66 and the rise of the empire. Meanwhile, the fallen Jedi should have only exponentially progressed by tapping into the dark side and continuing their training (even if deliberately limited) by Vader and Sidious. There are just too many contradictions to make sense
That’s bound to happen when content is added and removed retroactively by a multitude of different content contributors. Lack of cohesion Is the result.
Yoda didn't think much of them. He walked in and BALM! they got knocked out quicker than a Mike Tyson fight.
Don't know, I think that is how all Force vs Non-Force Star Wars battles should go. I've always said that if I had been in Obi Wan's place on Kamino for the Jango Fett fight, it would've lasted all of 5 seconds. The very instant he activated his jet pack and his feet left the deck, I would've force crushed his testicles and hauled his ass back down to ground level.
The Inquisitors never got proper training to counter strong Jedi, Such as Cal, Cere, Etc. Some of The Inquisitors had Potential close to that of Ezra Bridger
Ahsoka defeated some of them without even using her light sabers, Pablo.
Marvel should do some one shots of the red royal guard's carrying out missions
my first chance to be one of the first comments🤣🤣 i really love your videos man i have plenty of curiosity about the star wars universe. your videos are awesome man, keep coming with that star wars knowledge
They called it wrong. King = Royal Guard, Emperor = Imperial Guard
And yet Yoda just pushes them aside, literally
Can Vader use force lightning?
I've always thought he could not, although I can't recall if it was through choice, limitation due to his armour (electronics, etc) or Palpatine not teaching him.
If I'm right, who would have taught that ability to the Shadows? The emperor would surely have been too busy with other matters to be a teacher.
He only used force lightning once. But perhaps it would be best if he didn’t, in case they ever decided to rebel. Vader suit is vulnerable to electricity.
Why not mention Kir Kanos' name when you referred to him ? You also didn't mention the comic book series (The Crimson Empire). Why is that?
Yoda in ROTS: time I have not for you guards - speak to the emperor direct I will
the guards yes s-
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*Shin Shin Kai Karate*
I’m sure he is why the emperor didn’t send some of his red royal guard or shadow guard after the ghost crew after all they were starting to become a huge thorn in his side.
They're like bodyguards protectors they had to be on top of their game
He treated them better than Vader💀